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Exclusive: Hip-Hop Rumors: Why Was The Dream Taken Off #MCHG?

I noticed early on that The Dream was working with Jay-Z on Magna Carta Holy Grail. But, there is something that I was informed of. The Dream was the original singer on “Holy Grail,” the song that now features Justin Timberlake. Now, that’s a big record and The Dream remains a co-producer and song writer on the song. He was just swapped out. There is a secret recording of this record, but I’m wondering why they didn’t stick with The Dream’s version. I was permitted to hear a snippet and its actually better than the original. Justin makes it a “big” record. Too bad my source wouldn’t let me have the song. They maintain its too whatever to actually give to me. Maybe the original is just a reference track for Justin T and a stepping stone so these dudes can tour more. Sooooo….there is no beef here, but I thought it was interesting.

They keep us talking, but if we stop talking about them then they should worry! -illseed.


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  • Black Diamond

    Magna Grail Carta Holy?????

  • ebo

    dream did some production and wrtting on the album no rumor

  • $18916246

    @illseed, looks like that was a different album as your article references MGCH a title similar to Jay Z’s MCHG.

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  • RapItUp

    Illseed is such a bafoon.. Damn!!

  • Guest

    the dream is a song writer- i doubt he wrote it with the intention of being on it himself. he writes songs for everyone..must be a slow day in rap world

  • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ


    • johnblacksad

      You need to stop at one point… straight up biatch on her period sh!t

      boring ass nigga… just die or something

      • He’s already dead….his heart is just still beating.

        Power move dropping Dream for Bieber, on the business tip.

        That entry into Bieber’s fan base definitely helped Samsung.

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        u both suspect & u not bout dat! Come to Queens and get knocked TFO!!!!!!

      • johnblacksad

        no homo

      • He’s St8 Homo…look at his shirt!


      • Matt Swan

        Why do ninjas feel the need to hijack a thread and say absolutely nothing? Umm one dude plus another dude equals TWO dudes. sheesh

      • It’s like they have to reach into the crowd & “E” touch my shirt or something to be healed. It actually feels kinda weird being an “Internet SupaStah!”

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Yo…Chill out with the net banging fam. EDogz is good money.

      • >>Chokes on beer LOL~N @ “Come to Queens and get knocked TFO!!!!!!” ….. coming from an “alleged” Butt Pirate squatting in an Elmo shirt!

        I don’t mean to laugh in your face but your funny!

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        drinking beer at 12pm on a Friday? mofo get a damn job u lame

      • >>At work

        LOL~N X 2

      • Escobar

        It’s all goody B’, laugh. You know guy is from Wisconsin, Sheboygan Falls.

      • Hahahahaa! @ “SheBoyGan”

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        what u the A&R for Domican cokes Wetback Records?

      • NEWSKULL

        Butt Pirate?!?!… LOLOCAUST!!!!


        * Stolen ^^

        >> Pays proper licensing fees for general usage

      • Weedras

        Nah am dude it wasn’t Bieber is was Timberlake…

      • Same ‘chet to me…#IJS

      • johnblacksad

        LMAO! i know right

      • Weedras

        lol! one looks like a teenaged girl though lol!

      • Yeah, but the other one hangs with Black rappers.

        >>FacePalmz self

  • BlackSun7

    I dont think this is really illseed….that nigga long gone they prolly own the name/persona

    • aokot5

      That’s exactly what I was thinking the other day smh

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  • Wavpin

    Justin was I wise choice… Jay always make good business decisions

  • Weedras

    I guess ILLseed has never heard of a demo version… Dream probly did the demo for the song… since he co-wrote and co produced it…

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  • King Cool

    I cant hear The-Dream voice on that. I think Justin was a good move

    • $11625525

      Justin sounded like John Legend on that track, in places, maybe he would have been a better choice.

  • DesignatedH8R

    Stop acting like Justin Timberlake is Nate Dogg or something and send him back to boy band land. This song did nothing for me.

  • feeliama

    MOST SONGS today are written and recorded by the writers/producers and then re-recorded by the “relevant” artists later. You should know that being you are working for a music site.

    • JamalFromGhostwriter


    • main0

      Thank you.. Illseed sounded more like mediatakeout with there made up stories

  • Richard Savage

    JT is a bigger name and honestly has a better voice than the Dream. The Dream is just a good song writer. Just because you write a song it doesn’t mean you can ACTUALLY SING… think Ashanti and all the songs she wrote… the bitch cant hit a high note to save her life

    • Matt Swan

      Man I was with you all the way up till you called Ms. A a bitch.

      • Richard Savage

        when you’re unloyal to the people that was behind you from jump you deserve that title

      • krow132

        flipped on gotti & ja rule like fast food burgers

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

      my thing is who cares if his part sucks …. the singing isnt great …. you just riding off a name which is what they call fluff … now that joint jayz did for timberlakes album now that was fire ……. holy grail is just aight …. def should have not been the first track on the album …….

  • Chris Rivas

    Well Jay said he “dumbs down his lyrics to double his dollars.” JT’s lyrics aren’t “dumbbed down” but having JT on the record certainly creates more buzz around Jays album and he ends up doubling his dollas

  • E McArthur

    dream got paid, he probably doesnt care

  • IToldYoMommaYouAintSh_t

    They just talked about this in his interview. That is the version he played for Kanye and they argued over. No news here Chuck. Moving on


    “Is That Necessary?” Jay-Z- Change Clothes

  • Negro Peligro

    honestly Jay Z album is a real hard listen. That song is like the prelude for the rest to come.

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

      yes and no that songs sets the album off wrong … but the next 4 to 5 joints that come after are crazy … Oceans is another classic in the can for Jayz hopefullly he drops a vid for that one ………

  • Guillaume Pilon

    JT vocals ))))))))) the dream vocals

  • Sunshine

    The dream is a song writer first. When he writes songs, he sings the melody of what he wants it to sound like before selling it to an artist. I’m sure he doesn’t care as it is the intention for song writers to have their work sung by other artists and if they can get a major artist to sing their song, then it’s a huge win. He’ll also get a grammy if the song wins a grammy. Also, the headline of this rumour is inaccurate. The Dream was not taken off of MCHG.


  • ItGoesDownINtheDM

    Frank Ocean on Oceans vs Justin Timberlake on Holy Grail

  • Ojay Juice Henry

    that oceans soug is a good listen and breaks up the album in a good way. the placement of the tracks was well thought of.

  • digitallife

    As long as the checks keep coming in….who cares lol.

  • DollasTX

    dream’s a talentless cornball anyway – hell i would have went with the white boy too

    thats a no brainer