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Black Lips’ Cole Alexander Criticizes Lorde, Drake, and Macklemore


(AllHipHop News) For decades, certain segments in Hip Hop have faced criticism for what some see as an excessive focus on materialism and violence. One rock performer has stepped up to try and defend his personal favorite style of rap music and at the same time throw a few shots at other artists as well.

Cole Alexander of the Atlanta-based group Black Lips spoke with A.V. Club to give his opinion about the subject. The conversation was sparked by Lorde’s anti-consumerism themed hit record “Royals” which Alexander views as righteous and confusing.

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“Most of the people that are rapping about Maybachs and diamonds come from really ‘torn-up towns.’ I’m going on assumptions, but I feel like a lot of these guys are from Compton or these f**king ghettos like Memphis, and their parts of town are way more torn up than hers,” said Alexander. “I feel like they come from worse parts and they aspire to get Maybachs and diamonds because they come from ratchet-ass hoods where they have no hope. I think it’s a bit righteous of her.”

The guitarist also expressed his dislike for Young Money’s Drake. Alexander feels that Drake comes off as inauthentic.

“I’m sure he has some struggles in his life like everyone does, but I just don’t like Drake. He seems kind of fake to me,” added Alexander. “Personally, I like more melodramatic, ignorant rap where they’re talking about violence and anger and it’s just evil. I don’t like when it’s too conscious, I don’t like it when it’s too smart.”

Alexander then turned his attention to Macklemore and his song “Thrift Shop.” It was one particular line from the single Alexander took issue with.

“There’s that one line where they’re like, ‘That’s a cold-ass honky’,” Alexander said. “I feel like white people, when someone says something racist against them, they’re not very offended. They’ve never had to deal with racism so it’s almost a kind of white guilt, or a subtle kind of action. My problem isn’t the fact that he says ‘honky,’ though. It’s that he puts ‘honky’ in a black person’s mouth and they actually say it instead of him. He put a racist term into a black person’s mouth and had it thrown back at him to satiate his white guilt. That’s the way I look at it.”

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  • The Legendary Troll

    “Personally, I like more melodramatic, ignorant rap where they’re talking about violence and anger and it’s just evil. I don’t like when it’s too conscious, I don’t like it when it’s too smart.”

    the f*ck is wrong with this guy??

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

      he just exposed himself …. it why most caucasion folks like himself like rap …. they been loving these stories from the comfort of thier radio walkman mp3 player etc….

      • anemia716

        exactly. it’s nothing but a story to them. so that’s what he wants to hear. it fascinates them because they have never been around it. Rap is like FDR’s fireside chats to some of these folks.

      • Peter Kushing

        Its the beats that make that shit. Everbody been talkin about money, drugs,guns,n bitches since NWA. Nuthin has changed at all.

    • Soulgasm

      The violent lifestyle is something they’ve never had to live…never had to endure. So, it fascinates them to a certain degree. It’s like they’re reading a book. It’s like someone reading a Sci-Fi novel…. the stories in that novel are things we can’t usually relate to, but it’s entertainment nonetheless. That’s how Anglo kids view that type of rap.

      • Elayorx El

        Interesting perspective.

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  • Obi Won

    SMH…..

  • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    A white guy criticizing other white guys. I see no foul play here.

  • Black Jay

    First of all…. This dude is funny…. He’s also a little confusing twisted with a splash of socialism……
    Is he calling Drake’s music too intelligent? I hope that’s not what he’s saying because Drake’s music is pretty much glitter and glam R&B. When he says intelligent rap I would hope he’s talking about Talib Kweli or something. But even at that he’s basically dissing rap music by saying he likes ignorant sh*t over intelligence. F*ck! This dude is all over the place.

    But I agree with the Macklemore thing. That was pretty much a sneak diss. Why did a Black person have to say it? Judging from some of the comments made on this website I would say that ignorant ass Black People do talk like that sometimes but for a White dude to reenact a hypothetical racial diss from a Black Man as a credit to his position is a racist act in itself.

    I don’t know…. This dude is all over the place. He just needs a spaceship back to the 80’s and 90’s so he can get his hip-hop IQ up.

    • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      stfu!

    • golder1

      So you must be one of those ignorant black people. White people call eachother cracker, honky, and ect sometimes just to throw jabs at their friends just how black people are comfortable doing the same with those in their own race. Nothing racist about Maclemore writing a song and having a black person call him a cool ass honky if thats something he is fine with. thats just like 50 saying he would have no problem with eminem saying nigga becasue he wouldnt take it in a negative way because he considers em his family.

      • Black Jay

        If you want to debate…. Debate. Save the insults for kids cause this is grown people sh*t over here.

        It was a sneak diss. Like it or not. You can keep your Macklemore fan club card all day and it doesn’t change a thing. A WHITE PERSON BROUGHT IT UP AS A DISS AND I SUPPORT THAT OBSERVATION. It was correct.

        Don’t hate…..DEBATE!

        **This has been a public service announcement brought to you by Black Jay**

      • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

        just wanted to warn you Valid ask Lord Jamar another question. Ha Ha. Probably boosting his hits on his blog. Don’t wanna spoil the surprise so i wont tell u what it about. I think the more hate he get the more valid gonna post it.

      • Black Jay

        Awwwww sh*t….. Here we go….

      • golder1

        If you cant take being called an ignorant nigga then you shouldnt have used the phrase 1st. Disagreeing that Macklemore verse he wrote for Leslie is not racist doesnt make me a fan dumbass. I couldnt tell you one song he has made but just because another white person said that Macklemore was dissing himself becasue of white guilt is as ignorant as your comment. Last, nigga this is a social media gossip site and if you cant take what is being said, keep you old as off this site. Im far from a kid but you expect someone not to throw shade you way when you call people commenting ignorant black people. And stating something as being correct doesnt make it fact. If your were on your grown man shit you would know that already…sista!!!

      • Black Jay

        Thank you for your comments. Have a great day!

      • superh8

        I bet ur really good @ maths debate!!

      • superh8

        Totally agree

  • PhilTheGreat

    This whole interview was suspect… The over use of the word ratchet and calling Drake conscious shows how dumbed down this next generation has become. Only a matter of time before we end up like that movie “Idiocracy” with Terry Crews as president.

  • D_Ably

    Was expecting this to be full of BS but he ain’t wrong is he

    • golder1

      He is hating. He speaking on someone he never met. Saying he seems fake to him or his music is not real because he really hasnt struggled. Finacially is not the oly way you can struggle. Noone knows everything he has had to deal with in his life. He said he hates smart rap. Maybe thats why he doesnt like drake. hip hop is more than ignorant shit and violence. Just like rock music is not all satanic lyrics and partying.

      • ItGoesDownINtheDM

        true but come on drake was working as an actor as a kid lol ijs … had a brand new acura somewhere around he graduated … the oppurtunies just rolled in for the kid …he struggled but its def a different one … more like a diggy struggle where you try to find away to fit in with the HAVE NOTS … which is something you dont have to do ….. but its thier plight some fall ie Soulja Boy Justin Bieber … and other stay in thier lane and flourish Lil Bow Wow and Romeo ………

      • ItGoesDownINtheDM

        sn i didnt mean diggy he played his lane perfect i meant his older brother JoJo ….

      • golder1

        But that doesnt mean he has had not struggle. Financially is the only way people thing you can struggle. If you dont come from the hood, or you pops wasnt around, or whatever you didnt struggle. Yes he had opportunities but he wasnt always rich. Yes he had a new car when a graduated. I know plenty of people wh grew up in the same hood and parents got them a new car. that means nothing. 3rd their are no have nots in the music industry. They all are so far removed from struggling him trying to fit in doesnt apply. And as far as Bow Wow flourishing, he was 5 when he came out. He was going to be what they told him to be. But now he swears he is hard just because he is on soft cash money

  • Mack

    This unibrow needs to relax.

  • MrNoName2K

    Ah know your role and shut your mouth..

  • Reblogged this on HUEY mix wit RILEY.

  • hoeyuno

    That lorde chick wrote a international hit at 16..what have you done??

    • anemia716

      that’s not really a benchmark for success these days. there are a lot “artists” that possess 1/10 of the talent of someone who has never accomplished that feat. I don’t think that warrants the discrediting of another artist’s talent, impact or potential.

      timing and who you know matter more these days.

      • hoeyuno

        I agree 100% but to discredit a 16 year old girl who actually has talent is weak!! Most of the mc’s I listen to have never had a hit on the radio.. This kids taking shots at easy targets like when eminem was dissing boy bands..doesn’t take balls..just makes you look lame.

  • SAD_FACED_CLOWN

    Not surprised that a white guy likes “more melodramatic, ignorant rap where they’re talking about violence and anger and it’s just evil.” sounds like every white record executive in the industry. This is why we get BS on the radio like “My Hitta”

    • Live Well

      Bulls eye.

      • hoeyuno

        Haha

    • Peter Kushing

      Cause that shit sounds harder than that weak ass shit you hear on the radio

  • anemia716

    I only agree on the Macklemore point of view. Everything else is pretty fruitless.

    Lorde is a child. I haven’t even heard that song from start to finish. I honestly don’t know why it’s a big deal. She didn’t say anything that other artists, or even rappers haven’t said before. but shes a young little white girl, basically taking shots at rappers. hence, her “fame”.

    “Personally, I like more melodramatic, ignorant rap where they’re
    talking about violence and anger and it’s just evil. I don’t like when
    it’s too conscious, I don’t like it when it’s too smart.”

    ^ that’s because he’s not into lyrics. he’s more about the hype, amp’d feeling you get when you listen to music sometimes. that’s why he prefers “ignorant” rap.

    Personally I find that more fucked up than anything Lorde, Macklemore or Drake has ever said in regards to hip-hop.

    he think’s he’s cultured and exposed, but he’s pretty narrow-minded.

    the fact that he thinks black people essentially aspire towards material items when they make it out it a RIDICULOUS statement. get out of here.

  • Live Well

    If he doesn’t like smart Hip Hop then he doesn’t like Hip Hop.

    • anemia716

      yea. hip-hop started as a more socially conscious art form. gangsta rap is what he’s referring to. he doesn’t even know the difference. ahaha.

      but then again, I’m a person who firmly believes, and sees a difference between hip-hop and rap.

      • bisolabliss

        ‘Hip-Hop started as a more socially conscious art form.’
        ———–
        Uh? Where did you get that from? Hip-Hop was a block party movement from jump…the emphasis here is on ‘party’. The social consciousness you speak of came later, not from the onset.

      • Live Well

        Yeah, but the block party was a peace movement

      • bisolabliss

        Of course it was, nobody would have showed up otherwise, lol

      • Live Well

        There you go.

      • ursocalledgod

        grand master Flash and the Furious Fives ” the message” was 1982 homie. that was THEE MOST socially conscious songs to this day. i look at that as the start of hip hop for me. i know the lifestyle started before that but on the music and lyrical side thats where it started for me.

      • bisolabliss

        I can’t argue ‘where it started for you’…that’s a no brainer. But the universally credited first Hip-Hop hit, 1979’s ‘Rapper’s Delight’ by The Sugarhill Gang is a feel-good-party groove, although Keith Wiggins of the Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five is credited with coining the term ‘Hip-Hop’ as far back as 1978.

      • Live Well

        All the greatest songs in Hip Hop history have a social/political element to them.

  • i’mreloaded!

    He’s saying stuff about a racist statement, but you’re in a group called Black Lips? Where dey do dat at?

    • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

      LOL!

  • drake is a potato head,i don’t even consider him a real music artist,thats the type of vibe i get from him,hes just an actor playing a role that’s gassed up by female fans..

  • Elayorx El

    I always thought that was an interesting line from Mack. The last time I heard someone use the word, “honkey”, was on TV, eons ago, and that was from Mr. Jefferson. Lorde is a perfect example of how, “out of touch” the rest of the world is, regarding true Hip-Hop culture. Being young is not a valid reason for it, as I know plenty of “young” folk, who are well aware of the status-quo. As far as Drizzy, this would seem like a pretty good opportunity to put dude in his place, but on the same token, maybe he’s just lookin for that type of shine, so why entertain it, nah mean? I do respect this guy’s candor though.

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  • ursocalledgod

    i like this dude. he aint scared to speak his mind and i agree on most of what hes spitting. especiAlly ABOUT MISS DRIZZY

  • superh8

    I bet miss drake responds 2 this but won’t respond 2 miss jz.

  • Jayson C Williams

    He has points but he probably got him self blackballed..

  • This guy sounds like a bunch of other ignorant white people who like the culture because it represents their own beliefs about the culture. True, drake is wack but certainly not “conscious” and macklmore is making up for usurping black culture but as for lorde, who cares? Shes a walking, talking hypocrisy; I havent even heard her song and I dont want to. Shes just like most other white people who want to diminish the art without knowin anything besides what she sees in videos or hears on the radio. Plus shes 16 and from New Zealand, what the fck does she know about hip-hop?

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