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Comedian Joe Mande Calls Macklemore’s “Same Love” Corny & Manipulative

(AllHipHop News) Macklemore & Ryan Lewis’ hit single “Same Love” garnered the praise of many pro-gay marriage advocates, but one supporter of same-sex marriage was not a fan of the track.

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Parks And Recreation writer and stand-up comedian Joe Mande spoke with The A.V. Club on why he hates Macklemore’s song. After first stating that he believes “homosexuals deserve equal rights in every aspect of human life,” Mande goes on to explain why he picked “Same Love” for AVC’s “HateSong” feature.

Mande said:

I just think it’s a corny song. I said something to that effect a while ago and then a bunch of people on Twitter—his Shark Face Gang, which is what they call his fans—started attacking me, calling me a bigot and a homophobe. It’s so funny to me how close-minded Macklemore fans can be. They couldn’t understand how someone could agree with someone politically and also think he’s super corny…

I think it’s pandering and it’s sort of manipulative. I think he also is so self satisfied; there’s a gross element of that. He’s super corny, but it’s also a corny song and it’s being devoured by corny white kids who like don’t even listen to hip-hop and already believe in gay marriage, so he’s preaching to the choir, to kids in high school who are in the choir. I know it’s well intentioned and I agree with the sentiment of the song, but I feel the same way about that song that I feel about Bill Maher. I agree with what he’s saying. I just hate how he’s saying it…

He puts himself up on this pedestal like he’s the first rapper to be open-minded and that’s not true at all…

Another problematic part of the song is that, for being this anthem, he spends the first third of the song reiterating how straight he is. Like when he was a kid, he was worried that he was gay because he liked to draw, which isn’t even a stereotype… Just write a song about gay marriage; you don’t have to bring your insecurity or cross-hatching as a kid into it. It can be personal if you’re gay. But if you’re not gay, just say you believe in gay marriage. I feel bad for gay people that they had to adopt this song as an anthem.

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  • eddieknucks

    Yes! Someone else who thinks this shit was corny and self serving.

  • southside4lyfe

    The crazy part about it Black artist have been saying this for a coulpe months now, but dude does have a major point. I honestly believe that macklemore will have to move over to pop because he definitely does not belong in hip hop and how dare white america try and force him on us and call his music rap. He doesn’t even listen to old school hip hop artist.

    • im white and aprove this message

    • johnblacksad

      “move over to pop”… oh lawd… best advice ever!

      Now all of a sudden motherfcukers finally found some ‘hip hop’ they can relate to… smh

  • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Honestly niccas just hate on this white boy. I don’t have any of his songs in my iPod but he did have concepts in his album. It just wasn’t my cup of tea. If a nicca would of sent this nicca K dot a text saying “hey homie, u should of won etc etc, you had the best album” nobody would say anything. now its white boy that niccas know is not on no tough guy sh*t you niggas feel comfortable attacking?!??!?!?!?! Real rap! Where im from u never got credit for talking Sh*t and beating a weak nicca azz, u gotta go against somebody everybody think going to beat YOU for the respect. FOH!

    • Stop it. The beastie boys, 3rd bass, em, mac miller. NO ONE is goin at them calling them wack. Vanilla ice, macklmore, marky mark, those dudes are wack and corny and thats why people go at them. And whats worse is you are openly proud of your ignorance saying that although you dont know any of his music, there has to be something other than his music as to why people think he’s corny.

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        I said I listened to it. read again dumb nicca! 2nd line! My ignorance? I must of hit a nerve because u catching feelings! It must be you im talking about!

  • johnblacksad

    Couldn’t tell… haven’t listened to the album… Thrift Shop might be the only song I overheard… other than that, I ain’t even checking for that sh!t…

    Same goes for Em, Machine Gun whatever, Yelasomething, add on…

    Call me a racist if you want but I’ve just never been attracted… could never relate to it

    Now back to this Sean Price and M-Phazes… out!

    • anemia716

      yea, that’s really all it boils down to.

      Em and Yela, actually have something to say. They’re not some typical, bubble gum lyricists.

  • TruthSerum

    Basically the same way I feel about it, dude has a good message about alot of things but his delivery and presentation has cornball written all over it. Dude is just a mediocre artist, good intentions not withstanding.

    The worst was sharing that text message exchange he had with Kendrick tho, that really just annoyed me. First off, how much of a sissy do you have to be to apologize for something you didn’t even have a say so in, and 2nd, even if you did feel guilty, what purpose did it serve to share it with the world on instagram??

    I can’t stand these kinds of white kids man, it’s one thing to agree with racial equality and stand up for a civil rights cause and support gay marriage, it’s quite another to be putting yourself out there representing for a group of people your not one of. It just screams exploitation at that point.

    His fans are just as bad tho, acting like this kid is the first person to address homophobia in hip hop. Kanye West and Murs have both done this, they just didn’t make it their entire marketing campaign.

    • Celz

      If those kids didn’t hear it never happened.. I heard a kid say on Youtube “I listen to metal because they play actual instruments and have musical ability in Hip Hop they don’t besides the only rappers who ever talked about anything relevant was Biggie, Tupac, and Eminem.” Like this kid is so far gone there is no saving him, he’s probably racist and doesn’t even know it lol

  • Sweet Pea

    Fully agree. Forget the topic, it was the smugness of this track that put me off. Macklemore is smug and fake humble in general I think… Motherf*cker gets big off a song preaching about thrift shops then starts rocking ice and boxfresh rare J’s as soon as he cracks it!

  • Reblogged this on HUEY mix wit RILEY.

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  • Oliver Rupčić

    actualy only Mackleless song that I don’t find corny

    • Brindle

      the corniest one isn’t corny to you?

      • Oliver Rupčić

        his style fitted this one song, it’s so soft and spoken like he is talking…….. his other songs got good hooks and beats but his raps are so .. just not fun and cool guess you could call em whack.

  • Jamel Williams

    He doesn’t understand the song then because if U knew what kids had to go through growing up different from some kids always being called gay because of their ways he just doesn’t understand and I’m not gay. SMH

    • So the concept of kids being mean to kids different than them is a new concept to you? I think more than gay kids have dealt with this so im not sure I get your point.

  • Brindle

    1st time I’ve agreed with a gay on a gay topic…

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  • I agree. Macklmore is corny and the song is opportunistic. But that seems to be the majority of rap music now so it fits right in.

    • Oliver Rupčić

      just that his fans are deluded that he doesn’t rap for money like he is the one the good guy, when he is like everyon else

  • Edward Gemmer

    Let’s not forget Kanye West and Drake are top billings in the genre. Corny is almost a requirement.