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Raekwon: I'm "On Strike" From Wu-Tang Clan, Says RZA Lied And Is "Not The Top Producer No More"

(AllHipHop News) The house that Wu built is quickly crumbling. Today (April 17th), Raekwon explains his rift with RZA, says he’s on a strike from Wu-Tang Clan and more in a recent interview with Rolling Stone.

Yesterday (April 16th), RZA told VladTV that one of the holdups with Wu Tang Clan’s 20th anniversary album A Better Tomorrow is Raekwon’s unavailability. According to RZA he has not had a chance to talk to The Chef, a claim that Raekwon calls a “bold-faced lie”:

I don’t know why he said he didn’t speak to me, because he did speak to me. We spoke about two weeks ago. It was me, him, his brother and business partner Devine and we talked about why I’m not there right now. They know where I’m at and at the end of the day, him saying he didn’t speak to me is a bold-faced lie.

Throughout the interview, Raekwon stated that one of the biggest reasons for his unavailability is his displeasure in the music that is being made for the album. After Rae alleges that other members of Wu Tang Clan feel the same way, he specifically discusses his displeasure with the latest single from A Better Tomorrow, “Keep Watch”:

I hate it. I hate it. I don’t hate shit, but I hate that f*ckin’ record. It ain’t the gunpowder that my brother is spitting; it’s the production. And I ain’t sh*tting on the producer because he’s one of our soldiers. But if it ain’t where it need to be… It’s 20 years later. We talkin ’bout a whole new generation is sitting here representin’ and making fiery shit and you telling me that we comin out with some mediocre shit? That ain’t part of our plan. 

An additional, and possibly primary, reason for Raekwon’s lack of involvement in the new project is because he feels his contract is not satisfactory. While not intentionally attempting to holdup the project, Raekwon states that until his contract his renegotiated, he’s “on strike”:

It’s the same as being an athlete. I don’t give a f*ck if it’s Kobe Bryant or Kevin Durant. They will not touch the floor if their managers or lawyers are saying, “Listen, sh*t ain’t right.” So therefore, I’m in a limbo situation. So yeah, you’re right. I am on strike. 

An surprisingly revelatory aspect of the interview is Rae’s allusion that A Better Tomorrow being Wu Tang’s final album was RZA’s idea and not a general consensus amongst the group members:

RZA’s saying this is Wu-Tang’s last album? OK. Cool. That’s what it is? You the Abbot? It’s the Abbot show? Aiight, then it’s the last fuckin’ album. I’m cool with that. But at the same time, you’re not going to have me be attached to something that’s broke. Because if it’s already broke, why fix it?

Raekwon later stated that RZA is “not the top producer no more” and should be open to inviting more producers into the project’s production.

Check out the full interview here.

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  • TruthSerum

    I don’t like alot of RZA’s new stuff but at least he’s trying different things, Raekwon gonna be 70 years old writing songs about slanging crack and busting guns, every album he’s ever made has been a lesser version of the first.

    • johnblacksad

      damn… truth hurts

  • Brindle

    I don’t know if it’s an east coast thing but West Coast cats beef, southern cats beef, these east coast cats be talking slick and side ways bout each other all the time… there’s a cultural difference I’ve always noticed…

    • Jared

      Definitely think its the magnitude of cleverness…

      • Brindle

        magnitude of cowardness

      • Jared

        Rap beef is rap beef. I didn’t know the region made a difference…this is not even beef. We talking about Rza and Rae, lol…one thing is the east coast has always been about that cake. No need to take the independent route when the major labels been giving out the deals for the last 20+ years…Independent was the only route for others because nobody on the major label was checking for them….I don’t get the “cowardness” comment though.

      • 1SOFLO1

        Independent is the only way not to get F%&%Ked, reason why they are arguing right now. I respect the south and west coast hustle not because I am from the south, but because you have to be a real hustler to make it. The cowardness comment comes from NYers do a lot of talking and not much action.

      • Jared

        ….or be smart enough to understand and comprehend a contract held by law or be smart enough to hire the right attorney. Most cats won’t even do that. I’m from NYC but I’m not here to rep right now. That makes no sense to me because its reall niccas everywhere. I never hear NY cats talk about others like others regions do us for the last few years….One thing I do know is NY cats been going OT wherever handling there business…

      • Don’t know nutn bout ny so you won’t ever hear me bad mouth them cuz I rocked with all coasts music….I do know one thing bout new york tho…I love the way yall broads talk with that accent…makes me wanna fk em all…lmao

      • 1SOFLO1

        I am always in NY, I know. some real dudes from the NY. They are 9 time out of 10 not originally from NY.

      • Jared

        You might not be at the right/wrong places. I never see cats OT in the projects unless they’re with someone and I’m talking Harlem specifically. Back when all them Bloods was coming through from LA they weren’t uptown dolo. That’s all I’m saying…They’re dumb cats everywhere, lol

  • Wesley Holland

    Just make two albums as an experiment to determine if the new production or the old will sale.Wu lyrics are always tight.At least we will then possibly have Rae on the album.

  • I’m with Raekwon on this one. Hollywood changed RZA. Quentin Tarrantino got all up in dude’s head and his sh*t is starting to be affected. I don’t think it would hurt to reach out to some outside producers for fresh perspective. The world saw what happened on OBFCL2 when J Dilla’s joint connected with Rae.

    • RAMADAwhite

      as much as people tried to shit on that album OBFCL2 is a classic in my eyes and i feel like no one is really checking for rza on anything music related. He needs to drop all this hollywood shit and open his eyes up. Theres kids that were born in 94 95 who can’t even comprehend classic wu stuff.

    • southside4lyfe

      You also have to understand the south had the game in a choke hold(like wayne use to say) east coast rappers and producers wasn’t getting alot of shine so RZA did the best thing for hisself and used his talents in the movie industry. I think that even though it was a bold move, it might have also been the best move that member of WU could have made because it helped keep the brand alive and also gave members of WU an even bigger platform to promote their music like Common did.

  • El moreno de Queens #Dominican

    I’m selling Chinese calculators to college students. If anyone interested call me at 932-666-492

    • Jared

      What? lol

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        that’s the gay/snitch fake avi account of mine. niccas!

      • Jared

        I know the shits hilarious. Wtf is a Chinese calculator. They probably mean graphing calc anyway, lol

  • MrNoName2K

    old ass niggas still beefin…

    • Yes. Because we all know people dont get angry as they get older.

    • Arrie Mental Woodard

      they are beefin about business dealings but are not in the street coming at each other violently while these young stupid muthafukkas is killing each other over tweets on twitter…. id rather have “these old ass niggas still beefin”

    • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

      Didn’t i tell you. Nothing wrong with a disagreement, but it’s deeper then we’ll ever know. Money ruined hip hop man. Fame killing it too. Cuz, hip hop might have peak too, and headed in a scary place. OBSOLETE!

  • Honestly. I stopped feeling RZA’s production after the first album.
    On Enter the Wu 36 chambers he kept it simple. I think this is the
    main reason it became such a masterpiece.
    Wu-Tang Forever sounded horrible. The production was mastered
    much better than the 1st album. But RZA thought he was Mozart or
    something. I know a lot of underground heads will hate me for this.
    but I think a more minimalistic approach could have saved Wu to
    stay on top.
    I can imagine Rae doesn’t want to play ball while wearing some
    voodoo sandals. He want’s to wear some great shoes so he knows
    they will not slow down his performance.

    • TruthSerum

      That’s the first time in my life I’ve ever heard anybody refer to the production on Forever as horrible lol

      • I agree. Further no person I have ever spoken with in my life has said this either.

    • johnblacksad

      36 Chambers sound can not be reproduced IMO, and I think even RZA shouldn’t have tried to go for that sound on the second album…

      I don’t think no other group was ever on top as much as the WU around the time Forever came out…

      and I don’t think Rae has a problem with RZA’s sound like that… he wants his fair share of the guap! at least what he thinks is his fair share of the guap… which I understand

      On that note, I’m gonna pretend I didn’t even see these articles putting Wu’s dirty laundry out there like that… sh!t’s breaking my heart yo!

      • On that note, I’m gonna pretend I didn’t even see these articles putting
        Wu’s dirty laundry out there like that… sh!t’s breaking my heart yo!

        Can’t agree more.

    • cromthelaughinggod7

      The reason why you got zero likes because the planet earth doesn’t agree with you. Their second album sold the most wtf are you talking about. It had tons of classics. The first two Wu albums are the best. You are alone it that comment homie.

      • johnblacksad

        HEATERZ is my favorite WU joint!

    • The kingpin drug rap killed Wu, not RZA, all their ‘chet been subpar.

      Kinda like 50 & Rosie Perez, uh, Ricky Rosay, rapping thug ‘chet with multi millions. Not believable.

  • Terrance

    Rza is saying he hasn’t spoken with Rae as a Politically Correct answer to the question he was asked. It’s like in football… you know? How EVERYONE in football answers questions almost EXACTLY ALIKE?

    Rza is actually trying to avoid a media nightmare all the while leaving open the possibility of him and Rae being able to work things out in time for the album drop.

    I got love for them both but it is almost always BETTER to keep the the flow of information to outsiders MINIMAL at best… They BOTH need to get it right. #WUTANGFOREVER

    • Rae on some crab ‘chet…he’ll be out the Wu real soon.

      • Frank

        I feel the homey Rae a little. The song is dope but not monumental. But I agree with y’all he gotta check and keep moving. I can’t imagine he had any time in this one so just give up like 4-5 verses and then go do you on a new joint.

      • No doubt & keep the controversy in house, he really shot himself in the foot, IMHO, but if business ain’t right?….

      • Terrance

        No Rae… Then No Ghost…. That equals No Wu… Those 2 are the Heart & Soul of Wu. I’m speculating on that tho. Pay the man what he IS worth.

      • I prefer no WU to a Wu openly beefing like Mobb Deep, making diss records toward each other, etc.

      • Terrance

        #TRUTH

  • Keem

    Enter the 36, All members first solo projects and WU Tang Forever was the best RZA had to offer overall everything after that w/ his stamp was subpar

    • Django 2Chainz

      Im Not a Big Wu Tang Fan…But aint that like 11 Albums you just said?? haha dayum that should be enough lol

      • Hush up nigga. …wu is the best thing to ever happen to not just hip hop, but music in general

      • Django 2Chainz

        Haha Alright Stan Im just gon take that as sarcasm, You almost had me

  • Shamel Watson

    It’s all about the money

  • I think he got a point about these new producers though, you can’t come back as the WU and have the same old school beats in 20 fourteen…I’m the biggest 36 chamber type of guy but they gon have to come out fresh and hard mayne….

    • Killyoself Asap

      Why not? Half these producers today are just some fl studio garbage. That’s the problem with this rap shit and the mentality. Nobody complains about rock bands making records like what they fans want, like their old shit(Metallica) I’d rather have ant banks back makin beats than weak ass zaythoven

      • My nigga, you said ant banks…made me think instantly of one of my fav rappers, Spice 1. Hell yea bruh, i actually got Spice first cd on jive and I still bump that shit all the way thru quaking on these young fools. to be honest bruh i can Def dig what you saying especially pertaining to the WU. Of course the core fans gon rock wit WU to death regardless. Unfortunately times are changing, i wanna see them boys go hard again too but i wanna see them flex they skills on some shit they haven’t done before too. I mean it’s the WU bruh! If they come back I want them niggaz to make these rap stars of today protect they neck again. A lil variety would be nice in my opinion. Rae supposedly said that too, but that’s according to AHH so I don’t know if it’s true. You do have a damn good point tho bruh str8 up.

      • Deadeye

        You are all rap-loving nips The only kinds of music I like are
        country and rock-n-roll I hate that mindless jibber jabber you call rap Who ever invented that junk should be boiled in his own pudding and buried with a stake of holly through his heart
        BTW Rae is a Lezbo God said men and women who sleep together must be stoned

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  • cromthelaughinggod7

    I do agree with him. The production from RZA has been weak. The keep watch single is okay is it fire no. The other producers that stepped up that RZA sound is Cilvaringz, Bronze Nazareth. Bronze Nazareth should have produced the whole album or 4th disciple at least. RZA is not hungry you should have a Dr Dre attitude don’t put out bs take your time.

  • artcryme99

    Not a big Rae fan but I have to agree. Rza went hollywood and the Wu has a whole stable of dope producers. Furthermore hollywood has not been a good look for him

  • Apollo Showtime

    All the nigga’s that do Ghostface’s production could put together a better Wu album than RZA these days.

    • You may be on to something on that one bruh….str8 up

  • Killyoself Asap

    Rza beats always sucked. He don’t know about layering snares or no real shit. All he does is sample some shit,loop it, then throw some dusty ass sampled drums on the shit. The beats he tried to do without sampling at all are just garbage too. He struck it rich off the rest of Wu tangs talent

  • Frank

    so is Rae gettin caught up in the new drama too? New drama. Not beef. Real B.I.G. beef. He want that new shit huh? All types of hatin and instant messages in shit. That’s that TMZ shit. All about the money. Can it all be so simple homey? You wilin’ right now. RZA kept it Wu and said the right thing. The New Rae crying to Rolling Stone? I gotta check it for myself.

    • Frank

      eeeehhhh he kept it cool. This that TMZ shit though, worrying about the argument of the month. They can work it out. Next.

  • bigdoe6

    This shit is breaking my heart. WU-Tang is forever. Rae and RZA needs to settle whatever their industry beef. RIP Ol’ Dirty.

  • ericsmith

    I don’t like this I been a wu-tang fan for a long time so what’s up with that it is not good RIP TO OL DIRTY

  • Elayorx El

    Wow. Real dope comments on here, and I agree that RZA may have gone a bit, “Hollywood”, but it’s definitely looking like some members of the group have evolved, and may want to step in a different direction, which would be understandable. Nothing wrong with that, and perhaps enough time has gone by where they should have some more say so, and creative inclusion, because everybody has to grow, but yeah, at Wu’s peak, many fans were spoiled by that whole thing that was going on. I remember thinking, “man, when Wu drops future projects, will I be ready for what they are going to bring, if this is what I’m listening to from them now”!?!?! Sadly, the game has changed, along with those who helped to create it. The inferno that was Wu, has now become similar to that of a Bic flick. I really thought RZA’s time off from Hip-Hop was only part of some “Abbot plan”, to later come back, and blow the roof off, maybe one last time with the rest of the Killer Bees, then “go back to the temple”. Hopefully our comments may help to, “wake the bees up”, and Wu can get back to their foundational lessons, and leave us with some groundbreaking ish, like what they made their entree with.(ODB snippet, at the beginning of “Triumph”, here)

  • Damn…..now I know why christ bearer cut his dick off and jumped from the balcony. ….son of a bitch

  • Choko Late

    Keep Watch is WHACK!! Rae’s right and i’m not siding with anyone on this but Rza’s production has been weak for a long while now.

    • Man with the iron fists movie proves this….just kidding…it was a horrible movie tho.

      • Choko Late

        Oh sheeeeiiiit, it was worse than bad. It was turrible.

  • danboy1386

    I don’t want to hear wu-tang sound like the production of today’s hiphop I want to hear wu-tang sound like wu-tang. Timeless.

  • YaheardSyndicate

    RZA did produce Kanye West lead off single a few albums back. In that sense he’s still one of the top producers.

    • Weedras

      hmmm.. actually he CO-produced it along with Kanye, NO I.D. and another producer… but it was NO I.D. who i think crafted the beat in its original form.. i remember him saying in an interview he offered the beat to Jay Z first who passed on it…

      • TruthSerum

        naw, the “Dark Fantasy” beat was an old RZA track that Kanye and them switched up, same with “White Dress”, they were RZA beats originally

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