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Buckshot Says Some NYC Rappers Overdo Representing New York


(AllHipHop News) Brooklyn’s own Buckshot has always put on for his hometown, but the Duck Down Music co-founder feels some of today’s NYC based rappers are taking the idea repping your city to the extreme.

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In a recent interview with AllHipHop.com, Buck was asked for his take on Brooklyn Hip Hop at the moment. He did not call out any particular emcee, but the Black Moon member did express some homegrown acts from NYC should calm down with all the New York talk.

AllHipHop.com: There are a lot of acts from Brooklyn buzzing right now like Troy Ave. What’s your take on the current state of Brooklyn Hip Hop?

Buckshot: I’ll just say some people deserve to be in that position of acknowledgement, and some people really don’t. I give props to the people that deserve it. I don’t really mention any names.

Some people say they represent New York. Okay you represent New York, but when certain people keep saying “New York, New York, New York” all the time that just becomes a little bit aggravating after a while. You don’t gotta keep saying it all the time. Some people just overdo it.

There is one BK crew that Buck strongly endorses. He connected with Pro Era’s Joey Bada$$ and CJ Fly for the track “Flute” which is featured on Buckshot & P-Money’s new joint album BackPack Travels. According to Buck, Pro Era’s appreciation for the generation of Hip Hop stars that came before them set the collective apart from other new acts.

Buckshot: When we got that opportunity to work with Pro Era it was only a pleasure. There’s certain things you’re just amazed at, because they are so dope as individuals. And those are the type of people that give props to artists of the 90’s. To me, that’s special because I’ve always given props to the artists before me like the Big Daddy Kanes, the Slick Ricks, and the KRS-Ones. I like people that’s like that. Some people just don’t care, and they’ll tell you.

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Watch the video for Buckshot & P-Money’s “Flute” featuring Joey Bada$$ and CJ Fly below.

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  • Live Well

    Nobody’s feeling Troy Average

    • I think he’s dope

    • Bulli$hPride

      Troy’s a knock off, I can’t do it. Joey’s ok but I don’t bother, I tried but nah !

  • Rico

    *Coughs….. Troy Ave

  • Eli Pinilla

    He’s talkin bout the wierdo…..

    • Terrance

      #SHARP

  • i always said the same thing….Jay, 50, Nas, Biggie Etc Never Had to Scream “I’m From NY” on every track, Ja Made the “New York” song and it was dope as hell….but even he wasn’t screaming “i’m from NY” every track….Troy need to find a way to make some great music cause so far i’ve yet to hear anything that matches the arrogance he portraits…honestly he’s barely average to me. Someone give me 1 Troy Ave Quotable.

    • dareal504

      Fam if I could give u two up votes I would.. Cat is super avg and one thing I think we all have learned growing up is that if a nigga always got to big up’s himself, where he from or what he doing then chances are he ain’t abt shit and possibly fraudulent. Every time I see homie he screaming he restoring the feeling or bringing NY back. You can’t announce shit like that, it’s corny. Shit got’s to happen organically ya dig..

    • Clondyke Classic

      You are dead on my g

    • TRU!! These niggas be wanting to be the next BIG New York artist that they try to hard and to real hip hop/rap fans it sticks out like a sore thumb. I’m tired of these niggas making a ok album talking about they legends or they the shit. The tolerance for bullshit is at a all time high these days, niggas don’t care about good music because they don’t respect the art they just looking for the $, some of these niggas would rather be more famous than rich!!

      • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

        Exactly!

    • Savimbi

      Damn, that was to the point lol can’t front, and you’re right, Ave could have been the one talked about positively but that arrogance in the interviews takes away from the music, he’s definitely not on the same lyrical level as Joey, or Bronson, hell even Vado, but i feel vado fucked up going to Khaled….he should have went with dame or something.

      • Originally I didn’t like Vado going over to Khaled but truthfully Khaled has some pull and I don’t think Vado’s song “My Bae” would be getting the spins that its getting if he didn’t…never got into Joey or Action though…I think Los is one of the most Slept On artist out of NY though, if he gets the right ppl behind him and some catchy hooks he’d be a problem out here.

      • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

        Listen to the Joint Joey did with Premo, can’t remember the name of tho.

      • Sadat

        Los is from Baltimore.

      • Oh Shit..idk why I thought he was from queens or Manhattan lol

      • Sadat

        Like a fiend in a drought, he just can’t find that hit.

    • Papi Peligro

      He has the mannerism of a girl and the same temprament. Dude is garbage. Rap is really dead. I mean outside of the artist you’ve known for the last 10 years or before who’s really made a classic. Drake?

      • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

        Lupe!!!!

  • Mark Lamount Burns

    I do agree with Buck on the whole “Reppin New York a little too hard” thing. I’m originally from Brooklyn, NY but I’m living in Virginia at the moment. I understand the pride of being from NYC, but constantly reppin’ NYC in your music can take away from people experience the artists true skills. I want to hear the artist’s creativity, not them constantly repeating where they’re from! I appreciate the love of their city, but calm down!

  • T.A.P.

    That shit been like dat 4 a while…especially after the south rose to power…universal local niggas

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  • Clondyke Classic

    He talkin about Troy average. That’s why he’s not the guy for the job. Real shit tho one of y’all ny niggas turn me on to a new artist from up there. I fucc wit some ny rap I just don’t like the niggas y’all tryna push right now

    • YahMamma

      Is Troy from BK you moron ?

      • Clondyke Classic

        He from Brooklyn

      • cromthelaughinggod7

        BK is NY and you called him a moron! SMH!

    • Eli Pinilla

      Joey badass -1999…..action bronson- blue chips 1-2…..Mayhem Lauren

      • Clondyke Classic

        Joey can rap he just be on some boring type shit. I can only listen to him at the house chillin. And I thought Action Bronson was some kinda funny guy rapper that’s why I never fucc’d with him. The nigga can rap tho?

      • Eli Pinilla

        Haha I only listen to joey in the crib or cruisin through the city type shit….bronson can rap. His subject matter is all over the place cuz he’s white and cuz he cares more about rhyming the words together. He like to end the last 2 words of each bar with the next. But his ear for production is top notch. Listen to blue chips 1-2 if nothing else…

      • Clondyke Classic

        I’ma checc it out and see what he talkin about. I listen to the best rappers I’on give a fucc where they from

      • Eli Pinilla

        Freddie gibbs- piñata and big krit- king remembered in time

        Highly recommended by a hiphop head. Especially piñata.

      • Clondyke Classic

        I got all that. I was ask’n about ny artist

      • RapItUp

        Action got flow for sure.. Cultured Albanian guy, heavy on the misogyny and drug references though.. Oo, and the food. Dude is a professional cook. Or was before he perused rap full time. Lot of ritzy food references. I think he does the NY rap scene justice

    • Butch Magnus Milosevic

      Roc Marciano,and KA are New York…

      • Eli Pinilla

        KA- queens gambit

      • Butch Magnus Milosevic

        Knight’s Gambit

      • Eli Pinilla

        Yup lol I was thinkin gza album

      • Clondyke Classic

        Are they good tho?

      • Butch Magnus Milosevic

        Check em out an see…

      • MadVillain

        a few you should check
        Alchemist f. Marc, Action – Pool Hall Hustler
        Evidence f. Marc, P – Fame
        Marc – Emeralds, Flash Gordon, Pistolier
        Willie the Kid f. Marc – Avalon, Medusa

      • Immortal

        Alchemist is slept on along with a few others you named

      • he’s from Cali

      • Celz

        West Coast in the house.. The white boy can rap when he wants to too.. Nicca is an OG fa reals

      • hoeyuno

        Nah alchemist isnt slept on..he had some commercial attention in the late 90s and he still eats well off his beats…he stays busy..

      • cromthelaughinggod7

        Very very good. You must don’t listen to hiphop. They are well known mcs not rappers there is a difference. So for you to say are they good tells me you are not a big fan of underground hiphop. Roc Marciano, Action Bronson, Flatbush Zombies, etc

      • Clondyke Classic

        Why you gotta be a clown cuh? Of course I don’t know that much about ny underground rap just like you don’t know shit about Texas underground rap. Why the fucc else would I be askin one of y’all to turn me on to somebody

      • bigdoe6

        Roc Marciano is the best right now. His word play sick. No trap beats just rugged underground shit.

      • Butch Magnus Milosevic

        Agreed

    • shareef taliq

      Think he was saying on Maino….

      • cromthelaughinggod7

        No Maino isn’t doing anything at the moment. Troy Ave says it in every interview. Says it in everyone one of his songs. It gets old and annoying as fk. NY NY okay we get it.

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  • Rico

    Calling people ‘weirdo’s’ when he looks like Gary Coleman with a high top fade, and a Charlie Chaplin mustache! Unbelieveable….

    • Papi Peligro

      He mad feminine too. Mad feminine.

    • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

      LOL!

  • AK

    I agree especially now since its called L york and their new generation of rappers suck

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  • Ogmardo Trey

    The reason y’all don’t give Troy ave Is cause you never been on the Ave /block !!!!!!!!!And you are the werdio he talking about !!!!!!!!

    • Papi Peligro

      Troy Ave never been on the block or the Ave. He mad feminine. Like a white girl when Taylor Swift come out feminine.

  • Ogmardo Trey

    Powder

  • HATER PROOF

    man the problem with NEW York is its not Democratic anymore, let the streets pick who going,nation wide next and not the corporations!!!! and i bet the result would be waaay
    different! not niggas, with just a background in music…

    • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

      I guess the sample clearance is expensive, because NY use to be funky, and creative with their sounds and beats. Now it’s like they’re not even trying.

  • meanygreene

    other than KRS, nas, BDK, rakim, there is no other NY rapper that has more respect than him. NO ONE. REAL TALK.

    • Chrisblackusa

      Chuckie d,,

      • meanygreene

        yup, him too

  • Hood Oracle

    I disagree I feel like new york rappers don’t rep enough, i don’t think reppin where you from is a problem…what the problem is people from ny keep saying we need to come back or ny fell off just make good music and stop crying.

  • Guest

    I agree, I used to hate when rapper Foxy Brown kept talking about Brooklyn all the dam time like Brooklyn is so great, come to find out it’s the same place she got robbed, same place she got busted stealing hair products, same place Kim is from and they are the still the biggest enemies and same place her own neighbors filed an order of protection against her…So why rep Brooklyn so hard when Brooklyn obviously don’t care about you? Same theory as the New York thing just saying.

  • HaterOfTheYear

    this nigga sounds like he just hating on troy ave…and i dont even like troy ave but he reppin new york like any other rapper reppin their cuty.. he just a hater..new york always hating on each other.. crabs in a barrel

  • Johnny Boy

    He talking about Troy Ave. It’s true tho. When you become to much of a homer, you start to single people out like it’s some ”NY vs everybody” thing. You need to venture out. Not necessarily try and sound like some other region but, try and think outside of just NY.

    • Celz

      Remember the Roc and DPG on the Change the Game remix… Man that shyt went hard.

  • Heart of a Slave, Blood of a k

    May as well just say the boy’s name.

  • drac215

    What you have to realize, newyork is exactly what it says “new, york” The way of life has changed and amerikkka,not america, got hip to it!!! Ever heard of Martin luther king,frederick douglas,malcolm x,rosa parks,etc… NewYork mcs were them and the “world” listened and watched the movement(and loved it!!!) Amerikkka aint having it no more,but us true hiphoppers(black,white,tan,yellow,etc)will keep it alive!!! From the 215(philly) R.I.P. to “trueyork” God and Jesus are the best Mc’s, peace

    • Papi Peligro

      Rap is dead.

  • Modesto Koczwara

    Its funny that most NY-based rappers do this too.

  • Money Nice

    I promise everybody when I drop I am really going to rep New York for this generation the way it should be rep’d!!!! Buckshot lived across the Hall from my Little brothers and I came up loving Boot Camp Click, Nas, Jay, Biggie, Onyx, Wutang etc. I pay homage to my vets! I also had a chance to live in the Mid-West for almost 7 years and have lived on the West Coast, Texas, Cincinnati, and Indiana. I was exposed to all sounds of Hip Hop and my sound reflects that. I could tell you anything but check my shit out real talk! http://WWW.REVERBNATION.COM/MONEYNYSE IF IM WACK I WILL NEVER POST AGAIN REAL TALK!!!!!

    • Tom Donahue

      Didnt read

    • cromthelaughinggod7

      You got some skills but advice you don’t need to promote NY through title songs. Most NY legends albums songs didn’t have NY titled songs or mentioned it really much at all especially Rakim. Let your skill market you or you will come off as a gimmick. You got skill more bars than wack ass Troy Ave.

  • NY take this L

  • Montezuma1

    Buckshot got a problem with Troy Ave saying NY all the time but no problem with people yelling Westside or repping the South? Personally, I think when any artist emphasizes where they’re from it’s because they lack confidence in their own work so they play the solidarity card. It’s just a gimmick to make supporters feel as one with their struggle for personal success. I read Buckshot’s interviews and walk away thinking this guy is such an egregious ingratiating ass kisser. SMH

    • Papi Peligro

      damn all of that is too real.

    • Celz

      Trust and believe Game pisses off Cali niccas the same way..

      “I came out that coma in 2001 around the same time Dre dropped 2001” Shyt is almost disrespectful because any Cali nicca knows the Chronic 2001 came out in 1999 because Suge stole the Chronic 2000 album name.. That whole cd has been in Cali club rotations from the day it dropped to last night.. It will be played some more tonight as well..

      Point is get inspired by where you from and your influences but if that’s all you have to offer then why the fucc am I listening to YOU..

  • Boss

    He talkin bout Troy ave lol he always saying ny ny I’m bring my city Back it is annoying fuvk ya city jay fab and fifty ain’t go nowhere so wat u bringing back blade brown looking ass nigga

    • bigdoe6

      Blade Brown? Ohhh you cold my nigga. Lmao. Class Act 3.

  • Papi Peligro

    Real talk What rapper has made a classic album who hasn’t been out for 10 years or more. Its not just New York. HIPHOP is dead. There haven’t been any real classic albums. That you can pick up a year from now and play it. Especially has been 1 by an artist with under 10 years. 2000 gave us Game, TI, Clipse, Kanye. Where is this decades artist. Only classic album I can play cover to cover consistently is Gibbs. Even Kendrick Lamars album isn’t classic. Somebody below mentioned it. Its cause its not organic. Its not really coming from the lanes the dudes really lived or living. All these indie artist have onesy twosey hits and then next year you can’t play it.

    • bigdoe6

      Can’t lie Gibbs is consisent. People sleep on Gibbs.

    • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

      Agree on everything but the k-dot statement.

  • scullyson

    Certain people ? Name names or leave it alone.

    • 7yoyo7

      Troy Ave… Clearly overdoes it.

      • scullyson

        Right im just saying he needs to speak on it and not play f’in jeopardy with who he’s talkin bout..nah I mean ?

      • Arrie Mental Woodard

        he doesnt need to name names or bring on the attention of some unwanted beef because rappers are sensitive babies most of the time. what he said still holds weight and everybody can use their own imagination of who he is talking about. if he names names then yall same dudes would be like “he sounds old and bitter”

  • 7yoyo7

    This is true. I like a couple tracks from Troy Ave but at the end of the day you get easily bored.
    Why would you waste so much energy on reppin the city when other NY rappers like Smoke DZA or Joey Bada$$ make a lot of dope records with dudes coming from all over the country (Curren$y, Ab-soul, Big KRIT, Kendrick Lamar…)?

    Internal beef + Big egos + Overeppin = The so called “Death of NY rap”. We’ve already seen this before.

    • Celz

      Hip-Hop needs NY rap.. My generation of Cali niccas fed off that to stay different than our OGs.. You can’t out DJ Quik the man himself.. Or local legends like Suga Free.. So we was on Cormega to AZ everyone.. My circle was bangin Big L before he died..

      Troy Ave better take head.. Game didn’t listen and he’s pigeon holed as a great rapper but he’ll never be mentioned as one of the greats.. Troy Ave is like an East Coast Game minus some of the bipolarness and lyricism. Dude better make some adjustments before it’s too late.. I was rootin for him at first..

  • I feel him on that. When you make music and all you do is rep your state on the chorus and the all the verses. Do you think I want to listen to it when I’m not from there. Honestly you put yourself in a box. JaRule has a song called New York it’s a classic and great video and the mistake he made it was his come back song. What he didn’t realize only people from New York paid and listen to it mostly which at the end low numbers….

  • Elayorx El

    IDK, but being from the, “Golden Apple”, I’ve always known NY to be comprised of many diverse groups of people. People from all over, from down south, the caribbean, the far east, etc, all call NY home. Hip-Hop, speaking to the “black” side of things, predominantly, has always made this a regional thing, shouting out one’s borough. Not to mention, NY in general is probably the capital of the entire world, also known as the, “Empire State”. The pride here is quite pervasive, and Hip-Hop is probably the only known genre of music to be so regional, as everyone does it, and naturally, NY is the reason for that. Buck has a point, but lately it seems as time has gone on, he has become more candid about his feelings. Things change though, and it has become more apparent that Hip-Hop has long since been infected by some sort of cancer, or parasite, and not only in NY. The bar has been set so high, that you now have high jumpers trying to clear, what clearly needs pole vaulting to get over.

    • scullyson

      Real talk…Props for summing that ish up…

      • Elayorx El

        No doubt fam. Like EDO says, Dapz!!

  • troy ave is annoyin af

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  • The Legendary Troll

    only ny rappers put $$$ in their stage names

    • TheAfroRican

      Well please explain TY Dolla $ign and Curren$y, they aren’t from NY….

    • Arrie Mental Woodard

      ummmm. NO!

    • I didn’t know Too $hort was from NY…

  • Kevin Anthony

    “Buck town..home of the original gun clappers” Buckshot always been underrated as an Mc. Don’t matter where you from, its about the set of skills you bring to the table. Soundcloud Kevin Anthony

    • TheAfroRican

      “The mind tricks the body, the body thinks the mind is crazy”.

      • Kevin Anthony

        Word!

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  • Slaughtr

    NO COAST HAS DONE ANY GOOD WORK FOR A MINUTE SO IN MY OPINION WHEREEVER YOU FROM YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SHOUT OUT YOUR FRONT REGADLESS OF THE WHO THE FCK DON’T LIKE IT IRRITATING OR NOT. IF I START TO LIST THE IRRITATIONS I HAVE TODAY ON PRESENT DAY HIP FLOP I COULD POST FOR DAYS. WHERE A NIGGA FROM IS ONLY THE SMALLEST OF BS ANTICS AND IRRITATIONS.

    • Arrie Mental Woodard

      buck is right tho, some cats over do it!

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