Did Naughty By Nature's Treach Take Shots At Kanye West?

Photo via Treach’s Instagram

It may be safe to say that Naughty By Nature’s Treach is not a Kanye West fan. Treach has been posting plenty of material on Tupac suggesting that he is one of the greatest. Treach also took to Twitter to take a poll asking his followers who was their favorite between Kanye and Pac. Allegedly Treach is upset that he heard that Kanye allegedly said Tupac is overrated. The problem is, the rumor allegedly started from one of the millions of gossip sites that post fake stories. Treach even retweeted an article someone wrote about how disappointing Kanye’s “Facts” was, and he retweeted fans saying Pac is better. Based on how close Treach & Pac were, we understand why he rides so hard for Pac.

He also posted this meme on his Twitter page.



    Self proclaimed YEEZUS hasn’t put out a great song in 5 years since he sold out to the Kartrashians! PAC would mop the floor with this egomaniac! F*ck Mr. Kartrashian!

    • STEPH


  • Markus

    For Treach,I think it would be best to find out for sure what Ye said before reacting. Kanye may be delusional but I would be surprised if he actually said something that crazy.

    • Ilisei Alexandru

      He didn’t say amything like that ,it was from a bogus trash website…

  • I don’t know. Treach is coming off sounding like he asked for a Kanye beat and Kanye told him to f*ck off. Treach is acting like a woman. And truth be told, Treach’s own people be beefing with him and he f*cked ugly chicks so who is dude to talk about somebody’s family? Seems kinda lame.

    • RonRico Jones

      Or he could be reacting to some dude who wears blouses talking shit (allegedly) about his dead homeboy. Seems normal to me. That’s what happens to girly mouth niggas like Kanye. After you talk so much outrageous shit people believe you would say anything.

      • Knickfan4life

        Yeah keep running with that bs

      • RonRico Jones


      • Nah… I don’t see that. Treach been on some sh*t ever since he tried to kick one of the founding members of Naughty by Nature out of the group. Treach is known for saying and doing dumb shit. Bottom line, either Kanye said nope to some production or he got mad that Kanye didn’t show love to him when Kanye was working with a million rappers. Sh*t seems like some b*tch sh*t to me. Find it kinda funny how Treach is writing this sh*t while also taking and posting photos with one of the main n*ggas posted up in the studio on MBDTF. Raekwon is a Kanye affiliate. Unprovoked like a motherf*cka aka hate…. And what kind of n*gga goes at a wife? If It’s real, I’m coming at YOU! F*ck that b*tch in your house. Treach played this weak as f*ck. Sounds like hate to me.

    • Sinbk Legend

      That beef with his ppl is over

    • DollasTX

      You must not ever had any true friends ever in life … He also punked snoop on PAC behalf … If it wasn’t for PAC he wouldn’t have never married ole girl from salt n pepa …you must have not read the post because if you did you could answer you’re on question as why treach is acting like a “woman” in your words

      • What you are saying would make sense except for one glaring fact: Kanye never said it. Furthermore, Kanye hasn’t said anything about Pac or Treach. That’s what makes Treach look like a jealous b*tch starving for attention. Attacking a dude’s wife on some unprovoked sh*t? Like I said, Treach is looking more than a little b*tch-like with this move.

      • DollasTX

        And what you’re saying would make sense if Treach was dripping a mixtape or promoting an album or even making new music which he’s not .. Doubt if he ever needed Kanye for anything other than a good laugh (mind you I think Kanye has talent and I myself still champion a lot of his early works) dude has turned into an effeminate spectacle of what he once was ..

        Treach just picking on Kanye cuz he’s an easy win or maybe he might have drummed up his own personal vendetta ..

        That ALPHA MALE shit

      • So basically what you’re saying is….

        Treach is doing p*ssy sh*t…

        Which is what I said from the start.

        I’m glad we had this convo, young grasshopper.

      • DollasTX

        If that’s what you got out of my reply, so be it .. But that’s not at all what I was implying…

        And who doesn’t look at Kanye as an easy win ??

        Be honest myG ..

        TREACH ain’t saying nothing we all haven’t said or thought already. He’s just restating the obvious.. That’s what I meant about easy win!!

        .. they probably have never really met like that, other than seeing each other in passing I doubt they ever spoke words.

  • Knickfan4life

    Tupac is overrated I would say it to trech face I mean it is not that serious. Grown man want other men to be “scared” of them.

    • ursocalledgod

      dude hasn’t had a song out since 96 and people are still talking about him and has him in the top 5 dead or alive on EVERY CREDIBLE LIST. yeah that’s what I would call overrated..GTFOH

      • Knickfan4life

        He is over rated no matter how you slice it

      • Keyser Soze

        Pac as a rapper may be overrated… Not Pac as a person or overall artist though…You can’t deny his impact… the total package makes him top 5.. But since we talking overrated… Big is overrated also.. but he gets a pass …

      • Knickfan4life

        Your argument is stupid actually Jimmie hendrix died in 1970 and is still talked about as well as elvis Presley.

      • Daynjarus1

        Not talked about as much as Pac

      • Knickfan4life

        Jimmie hendrix is talked about more than tupacπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ he is considered a god we the only ones talking about Tupac. Ask yourself why they are not doing a dilla movie. Because he became a legend without the machine and was unassuming.

      • DollasTX

        Jimmie Hendrix is a God to white folks ONLY bruh … By the time white est took over black Rock n roll .. Us as a people skipped straight to James Brown (keep it truthful) niggas never gave two shits about jimi even jimi was out of touch with his people

        And why are you not keeping it RAP .bringing up other genres of music on a rap website … On a thread referencing tupac and you bring up Hendrix … Grasping for straws fam

        Still no top 5 from you … You a NY hater fam .. I ain’t from the west but you HATE the west coast (crab in a bucket mentality)

        Just say dude wasn’t tour cup of tea … Instead of trying to rationalize the hate

      • Knickfan4life

        That is the sad part because jimmie hendrix loved his people as much as Tupac if not more and was down with the black panthers as well.

      • DollasTX

        Jimi might have loved his people but his love for acceptance by white people was way deeper than his love for self or for his people

      • Knickfan4life

        He had to go overseas because white people were not trying to have a black man have white females going crazy over him. That is why it ties into Tupac they love loud ignorant black men .Tupac played into the stereotype that gets white people off and we as black people love negative hero’s.

      • DollasTX

        Don’t generalize us fam … I champion various black men and women and the majority are positive people they were just conflicted men living in the flesh however it’s their spirit that connects with me because the flesh is weak

      • Knickfan4life

        Becuase hip hop is music they are considered musicias just like nwa is in the rock and roll hall of fame even that is politics.

      • DollasTX

        Yeah when they announced nwa was being inducted into the rock hall of fame a couple weeks ago

        I had conflicted thoughts and I too knew it was ALL politics

        Jimmy Iovine .. Dr. Dre “finger in the booty” type politics

        Then on the other hand I thought at least them white folks who hate rap and black people in general get to see these NIGGAS hanging next to Janice Joplin alongisde … (You guessed it) jimi Hendrix lol

        Kindah how I felt when Obama was elected …

      • Daynjarus1

        In what circles is he talked about more than Pac. The 50 plus crowd??? Both are great artists but Pac was a poet. And for the record, they are making movies about both Pac and Hendrix

      • DollasTX

        His argument wasn’t stupid bruh … It went stupid when you brought up Hendrix as a comparison

        Big died 1 yr later and really didn’t have a lot of music buy he’s still in the argument as well

      • Knickfan4life

        You are as silly as him he bought up 1996 I bought up 1970 legacy is not when was the last time you were alive it is whether you have touched people or not. Nice trybut I’m more convinced hip hop has the dumbest fans of any genre of music every time this Tupac argument comes up.

      • DollasTX

        Are you mad because you wanted someone to agree with you?

        How silly of you to call me silly when you haven’t provided any positive energy to the thread.

        I’m off the PAC situation cuz I wanna pick your brain to find out what you really are on.

        You mentioned the 70’s … I guess Afrika Bambatta and Sugar Hill Gang is your era.

        Funny hip hop historians consider the late 80’s and early 90’s THE GOLDEN ERA!

        MAYBE that’s why your mad?

        Whose your top 5 and why?

      • ursocalledgod

        Lmao so what’s your point? Jimmy is overrated?

      • Knickfan4life

        No stating Tupac has been dead since 1996 and people still talk about him is just crazy like I was saying they talk about hendrix,elvis,tupac,mj,Natalie Cole ,donny hathaway,Nina simone. Making it seems like he is the only person people still listen because the physical is resting is crazy talk.

      • ursocalledgod

        Every struts you just named is legendary. So all you’re doing is proving my point that saying he is overrated is ridiculous. Thank you. Checkmate.

      • Knickfan4life

        You trying to prove a point and making zero sense he a had e legendary career that don’t mean y ou a legend Adele is haVing a legendary career her music is not legendary that machine is just working overtime for her. Keep telling people tupac or elvis pick your poison with there retarded fans πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ they are zealots.

      • ursocalledgod

        ” Just because you have a legendary career doesn’t make you a legendary artist”? Smh Yeah we’re done here lil fella.

      • Knickfan4life

        πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚don’t get mad at me because you are not that bright. Lol the only reason Tupac is considered a legend is because his records got played a million times a day and black men gravitate to negativity so they keep feeding us foolishness. Again Adele for instance is having a hall of fame career with sh..ttyy music. You like Tupac that is great some think we can do better. Take care.

    • STEPH


    • STEPH

      you have to be 25 and under

      • Knickfan4life

        Grab a seat bruh been listening since 1991 you clowns are just lost and cannot accept Tupac for what he was a hip hop martyr .which is not a bad thing

      • STEPH

        You can’t be Black

      • DollasTX

        I know some bruvahs who feel the same way … I remember arguing with my basketball teammate about who had the best album in 1996 .. Boot Camp Click or All Eyes on Me and he definitely a bruvah. I was puzzled cuz bcc paled in comparison but he was a DJ muggs fan and ogc was on that muggs mixtape …

        My vote was PAC

      • Knickfan4life

        You from Dallas that is why Tupac was forced on hip hop

      • DollasTX

        I should call you silly for making that assumption that i was from Dallas (which im not) but I digress.

        Fact is … I’m a seasoned vet when it comes to hip-hop and rap.

        South Bronx? Maybe KRS is 1 of your top 5 then, maybe not …

        “I think very deeply…”

      • Knickfan4life

        Ask yourself can you really have a top 5 without pissing some one off? because I’m sure LL is salty when he is not mentioned when he is one of the most creative artist hip hop has ever seen.

      • DollasTX

        It’s not about pissing someone off .. It’s OK to agree to disagree

        But a person’s top 5 can tell you a lot about that said persons musical taste and some what of their personality

        It’s not an argument (until name calling gets involved lol) its a debate / discussion fam

        and a young LL is in my top 5 … Matter of fact, I have a top 7(since 7 is the number of completion)

        I (still) feel good about candy … Lol

      • Knickfan4life

        Not posing you off I’m talking people in genreal what is sad that Tupac is considered one of the greats when he was out there doing crazy sh-t .but I’m not surprised because some black men love negative energy.

      • DollasTX

        He’s considered one of the best for the same reason DMX or ODB are revered ..

        Because they all possess uncanny contradictory warriors spirit

      • Knickfan4life

        You just don’t know hip hop I probably been around the music longer than you so I see things different.very black 😊south Bronx born

      • STEPH

        And you don’t know me. I’m not gonna sit on the internet and argue with you, but what does South Bronx mean??? I’m born and raised in Detroit Michigan does that make you an expert on rap music??? You got every right to your opinion and I have every right to disagree with it.

      • Knickfan4life

        Yeah new York,Philadelphia and new Jersey were the first to do it so they would know more and I love Dilla .

      • STEPH

        I don’t what new age shit you talking about,but you go ahead of love who want homeboy.


        Check out D.I.T.C ,”Make em so proud(Hold on) feat fat Joe Ag, Showbiz ,and Diamond D. Just heard it today on SoundCloud. Fire. Pure NY.

      • DollasTX

        Definitely a martyr but he was also one of the GREATS. I would liken him to hybrid of Jeezy and Kanye (neither are top lyrical but both tend to have poignant perspectives on variables associated with this life we lead.) PAC gets a nod for GOAT due to compassion work ethic focus and determination (not lyricism).

      • Knickfan4life

        He is considered “great”because he was on innerscope records if professor x who was militant as well was doing all the crazy thing Tupac was doing we would be talking about him. Most of the people who love Tupac don’t even know who Africa Bambaataa is , who was really in this streets and not creating stereotypical characters that have black men looking stupid.

      • DollasTX

        I bought that x-clan tape back in the day .. So that should tell you how silly you were to make those assumptions you made earlier

        Wasn’t afrika bambatta guilty of date rape and homo activity

        Where’s the pro-black in all of that??

        We know PAC was pro black and we know what happened in Atlanta with the undercover cops who were racially profiling another black man when PAC happened to be riding by … You can rap and talk pro black but if it’s not in your actions or lifestyle then its an exercise in futility…

      • Knickfan4life

        And you see that went away with the quickness they are trying to ruin that man in old age.

      • DollasTX

        Yeah bill Cosby allegations went away for years …

        … And now its back again

        Mister Cee allegations went away for awhile too fam

      • DollasTX

        Most people who love PAC who were around in the 90’s know afrika bambatta … You reaching myG …

        Now If you said this lil Wayne generation than YES but they weren’t around during PACs time


        He’s not overated, u can say he’s alot of things about him, but overrated is not one of them.

    • Ipullcards

      That’s that jail love mentality..

    • Faceda59

      There are a lot more people who love Pac and think he’s#1 on their list then people who think he’s what you..

  • Black Adam

    Top 5 (Jadakiss voice)

  • youKNOWthatYOUugly

    I fux with Treach and Pac is the GOAT amongst a few others, but he’s going a bit overboard.

  • ZUBU

    Not into the Treach/Kanye beef. But any-silly-billy motha-fucka thinking Pac is overrated, you must have brain damage….. Pac was brilliant, the brotha had so much knowledge, deep soul, Panther inspired……… On a street level what rapper can ever say he clapped the cops and lived to rap about it….. Like In Atlanta Have It How You Want It…….

    • Knickfan4life

      People are entitled to think he is overrated you tupac stans are hilariousπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ dude did juice and turned into a killer so yeah he was brilliant.

      • ZUBU

        You’re sounding like a crack baby now. You were born in the 80’s huh?
        I’m sticking a fork in you Son, you’re done……..

      • Knickfan4life

        Why do people think your younger when it was the older rappers telling him he is going to get killed. Tupac and Elvis have the most obnoxious fan bases in music historyπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

  • MidWestFlyest

    Pac transcends genres, that’s why he is the greatest. I know people who don’t like rap, but they like 2pac.

  • as an emcee…yeah, Pac is overrated.

    • Unknown

      regardless of your Bias statement. He’s still GOAT!

      • It’s called an opinion…based on the fact that I actually grew up on Pac’s music while he was alive. GOAT Revolutionary rapper…probably. But not GOAT emcee. Pac didn’t have bars.

        By the way…I’m not a white boy. But I guess you figured that out already since you changed your original response that said “stfu white boy u don’t know shit..”. I don’t even know why that matters but it seems to matter to you though.

      • Unknown

        Pac didn’t have Bars?? I’m doneπŸ˜‚


      Compared to who, understand not liking him, but underated is just ridiculous.

  • No name

    I am a big pac fan and knowone was on his level at all. His emotion and delivery were super ridiculous! He made you want to tear some shit up. He was more than a rapper. Now pac wasn’t a cypher rapper so on that level I can’t say he is the best. He had the most charisma and heart in the game. He is a legend unlike any other. He made it ok to even mention crying in a song without appearing soft. He had the realist image that niggaz copy to this date. He had the most influence of any single rapper in history. He just didn’t give a shit and that’s what made him cool. He wasn’t politically correct he wouldn’t beef then kiss and make up,if it was beef nigga it as beef not like these clowns diss each other then kiss and make up after making death threats to each other. Smh….

  • Fat Pocket

    tupac was the coldest ever.No 1 can touch Pac. he talk about real shit.

  • Q.

    Pac was passionate, though went astray.
    Kanye is passionate, though went astray.

    That’s where the comparison ends. The “new” Kanye is corny as fvck.

    • So…. You’re saying MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED FANTASY wasn’t good? That was his best album. And correct me if I’m wrong but…. Didn’t he make that while he was with the Kardashian-Hoe-Clan? People can talk all the sh*t they want. Kanye hasn’t dropped a bad album yet. Until he does, I’m inclined to give the man space to do his thing. Treach be damned. I like Tupac but it’ll be a cold day in hell before I let a washed up dude like Treach dictate whether I cop the new Yeezy album. Kanye’s track record is too good and a gambling man always bets on a sure thing.

      • east saint

        Yesus was the wackest thing I’ve ever heard

      • Q.

        …Too much clown sh!t these past several years from ya man.

        RIP Dr. Frances Cress Welsing

  • RazaBladeKing

    I’m tired of this “Pac didn’t have bars” shit. If yall rap nerds knew your shit like you thought you did,
    then you know “Keep Ya Head Up” was all 3 and 4 syllable rhymes with 3
    or more rhymes per couplet… in 1992… on a radio single… about
    single family homes. Pac is a thoroughly UNDERRATED emcee (not rapper) if anything,
    because his delivery was so normal and conversational that people didn’t notice how
    complex tha mechanics were, especially for that time. Go listen to the
    2nd verse of How Do U Want It and say he’s a cat-n-tha-hat rapper with a
    straight face. Dude wasn’t a top shelf, A grade emcee, but Pac was
    easily a high B caliber, and when you add in the substance/content and
    the charisma, its easy to see why he’s held in high regard in music in
    general, beyond rap

  • TheCoder

    Don’t be a Hater Treach! Put out somethin… I think you still got some hard shit in ya…

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

      he def does

  • chappedlippz

    Treach, hip hop hooray. Go away. Everyone knows Pac is the best.

  • JerZeBoy

    2pac wasn’t with the punchlines and similies and metaphor $hit, he was just a hard, real, cat that could spit. kind of like a running back who doesn’t need the razzle dazzle spin moves and shit, but can just run like crazy! IMO

    • Soulrebel1

      Overrated exactly, give me Barry Sanders, lesean McCoy over Demarco Murry Eddie lacy

      • JerZeBoy

        Fuuny I was going to say like barry sanders or Terrell davis

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

      or a better metaphor would be more like a FULL BACK than a RUNNING BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Leonard Tarver

    All these comments says 2 Pac is overrated but he’s probably been the only artist that cared about his people… That’s like saying Scarface is overrated in which he uses NO punch lines. Are y’all serious? Punchlines make you the hottest rapper? gtfowbs

  • Dan Tebasco

    ‘Did Treach take shots at Kanye West’… hmm great question… I’m really not sure, we need more proof, it’s all so subliminally done

  • ItGoesDownINtheDM

    dont fall for the bait treach kanye likes chief keef theres no way he could of said that about 2pac !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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