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Lord Sko: How He's Jay-Z's Next Big Thing, Why He's Rap's Jeff Hardy & The Lin-Manuel Miranda Issue!
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Mar 18, 2025
Rising NYC rapper Lord Sko talks his explosive new album "Piff," wild encounters on NYC subways, legendary collabs, and why he's embracing stoner culture. Plus, the real reason he confronted Lin-Manuel Miranda about In The Heights! Tap in now! 🎤💥 🔥"Piff" drops March 28th! 🔥 Subscribe to AllHipHop on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/allhiphoptv?sub_confirmation=1 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:43 - New Album Release 02:53 - Featured Artists On Piff 05:23 - AR Technology in Music 06:13 - New York City Influence 08:57 - Attraction to Hip-Hop Culture 10:43 - Childhood and Upbringing 13:38 - Beef with Lin Manuel Miranda 15:13 - "Faces and Heels" (WWE) in Hip Hop 18:03 - Jeff Hardy of Rap Identity 21:56 - Relationship with Jay-Z & Roc Nation 24:05 - Dream Collaborations
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it's your boy L sco here with all hip hop L R dsk the Newport Lord Jeff Hardy
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flees Christ derl Leeta skirt Cain you know where we at with him man salute
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toour starts April 16th in Boston till May 8th in Vancouver here in 15 cities
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east coast Midwest Pacific Northwest um West Coast all of that man you know what
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I'm saying Super Pump to get on the road uh piif drops March 28th so I got about
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two weeks and some change to memorize those lyrics cuz we taking them on the road man and uh you know I'll see you
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there what's going on world it's your man Chuck creeker AKA jigsaw here at one world Studios and we are here with a
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rising Talent right here New York City Lord SK what's good man doing good man
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how are you I'm good man it's good to have you in here finally thank you for having me yo good to be here yo
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definitely you're um a young legend in the making man ah you know somebody say
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somebody say yeah no that's that's what's up um you have a new project about to drop um piff you know what I'm
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saying now now this is your third full project right yeah so um I I consider it
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like my third um but at the same time like it it definitely feels like the
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first one I know I know a lot of rappers be like yo but this my first album though like nah n like you know I got I
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got the discography you know but like you know this is definitely one that um a lot has been ramped up for you know
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I'm saying so uh you know it somewhat feels like a new thing for me um but it
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is my third LP on record you know what I'm saying Museum I put out completely
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independently uh United Palace through EQ Rock Nation Dro and this will also be through Rock Nation drro so yeah um got
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you okay we we'll get into that a little bit but um but but um this project do
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you feel like this is your breakout project like Doshi for example like last year people just found out about her cuz
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she you know had this breakout project um yeah hopefully you know what I'm saying it's a little early to say but uh
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you know that's the plan I think that's what everyone's plan is is you know what I'm saying make sure the push is proper for this but also at the same time like
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I don't really look at myself like a like a viral artist like if I catch a viral moment and you know I got one
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moment that that's going to set me up for life like that's awesome that would be great but that's not really what we chasing after you know like I'm trying
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to build like you know uh a longevity with them and um you know I want to make
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sure that you know the rise is steady and organic um but yeah hopefully hopefully we got going on is that you
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know there's definitely levels that we will uh be surpassing and and whatnot you know what I mean now talk about some
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of the features on this album yeah yeah so I mean I got a stack list you know currency shout out to spitter Maui you
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know what I mean uh Conway the machine Grand Puba Delta funky Homo Sapien Polo
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perks uh Collard um lot of different production on there from different folks so you know so so we were talking about
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the album a little bit before you got here yes sir and you know gr poba stood out like we were like wow you know
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that's crazy crazy abely n and you know um that that's definitely an important
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record that's record that's one of my favorites and you know I'm super happy with how it came out honored to be on
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the track with a with a legend of that statue you know and an innovator um both both within the Rhymes and also just
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with how how we all get Fly you know what I'm saying so that's you know two big elements of what I do and you know
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to have the the cosign from the God is a is a big deal you know what I mean and you me you at one one of your round one
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of your songs I can't remember the exact one you mentioned something about the 5% n something yeah yeah yeah yeah so you
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know um my manager Saleem is is got body you know what I'm saying he be putting me on okay um and you know just making
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sure I'm civilized with with with what we talking about and all of that you know what I'm saying so you know it's all respect to the 5% nation the gods
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you know what I'm saying I wouldn't personally consider myself to be a guy like I ain't you know really like done the uh pilgrimage to Mecca and all of
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that but I'm pork free for two years so okay you know I mean um and yeah you know it's it's definitely um a culture
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and and a subculture that I have a lot of you you know respect and admiration for just in um you know what it says
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about self- discipline and you know like striving for knowledge like those are all things that you know I think every
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human should uh incorporate into their life so you know it's a blessing to be around the guys who could build and you
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know Gram me with that knowledge you know what I'm saying nice nice now uh D the funky home sa that's another one for
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me you know he's a hell of a writer oh yeah and a ghost writer if you know you know hell yeah not facts yo he he do his
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thing you know Del is like machine man you know what I'm saying shout out to Dell he got super ill energy um you know
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super positive super cool like he just know about like random ass you know what I'm saying like know about like
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everything so you could kick it with him talk about you gonna find yourself talking about mad different different like comic books and sports and cartoons
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and all of that so you know he he's dope man he was a dope energy to be around in the studio for sure now um production
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wise you have a a stacked list too absolutely abely yeah you know I got a lot of different producers on there but
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um you know I think the way it came together it congealed nicely you know what I'm saying and I was definitely
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going for like a mixed bag roller coaster kind of feel yeah like I wanted it to be like certain songs like make
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you feel up and certain songs make you feel down like you know like sporadic but um you know it all kind of sits
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under the same roof which I'm really happy about and you know I'm glad it turned out that way cuz I could have you
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know collabed with a billion producers and it'll sound like I just threw it together together but you know I think
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um it was a lot of curation that went in and post and just making sure everything flows correctly so I'm definitely
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pleased with uh the final product even though I'm a little tired of hearing it right what's the what's this the magic
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you you and Arlo have between you guys oh man so uh you know all is uh that's
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really like my dude you know what I'm saying and like we just we kind of found each other out a at a good time um I'm
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trying to think of the exact word like cuz good is like a a formative time you know what I'm saying both of us was super early in we just
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kind of built a chemistry working with each other um you know so that's that's my dude um you know and we done a lot of
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really great work in the past and you know I'm super super glad that he contributed to this album um even if it
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was like you know it's not like he produced the whole thing like we still needed some of that flavor on there and um you know all it was my dude and uh we
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met each other again at I said a formative time and we we grew together and our sounds mesh and um it just ended
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up working out and that's someone I'm very proud to call a close friend of mine yeah now you're um well New York
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City city is a character seems like it's a it's a character and everything most definitely um you know but from a
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hip-hop perspective you you're coming with a Vibe that's not really the norm
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for the current ERA right yeah um n definitely you know what I'm saying and I mean um the thing that's cool about
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what I do is there's a certain level of timelessness to it so like even though it's not like what's currently like
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what's getting played on the radio in the clubs or whatever like people could still be like oh but he he make he make
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like classic New York type you know what I'm saying like it's not it's not like people are alienated to it so much you
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know what I'm saying like everybody kind of knows what it is you know what I'm saying it's not like in today's day and
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age like you know like even songs like you know like juicy or like big hoer like what like those is in movies you
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know what I'm saying like those is everywhere so it's not like I'm speaking a different language to people but it
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might be a little different like you know you might go down south and still speaking English but you're like what
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the do you just say you know what I'm saying same way they come up here and be like what the hell y'all talking about you know I mean so um you know I think
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that's cool and and with that being said like you know you could still go down south and have a have a good conversation with somebody no matter how
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strong the slangs are going at it you know what I'm saying so I kind of look at it that way like even if people don't
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listen to me in their headphones like it's not you know like you know the word Ola even if you don't speak no Spanish
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you know what I mean so it's like facts you know so that's kind of how I look at it um even if it was something their dad
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bumped or their Uncle bumped or like they used to bump it you know it's not you know it's not like I'm making like
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weirdo music it's not like oh what doing like they know what I'm doing you know right just a little different that's a
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fact now you uh you know I read that you came into hip-hop around Middle School
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yeah um what was it that attracted you to it um truthfully uh I think it was
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like like the visual aspect of it like not with music videos but just in like
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like my mind is very visual like when I hear words I see pictures so I feel like
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with hip-hop like it was the most natural to translate from my mind at the
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time okay um because like you listening to Big you listening to NAS you listening to J or M or Outcast or
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whatever any of them dudes and any of you know rock Mary mcmiller Joey whatever whoever it is but like you know
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you can visualize what they saying if you you know what I'm saying um you can put yourself there you know I mean so
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that to me was very powerful and um you know I think that's what really attracted me to it is that it like kept
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my mind working cuz my mind I got like the crazy ADHD so you know my mind be running but it gave me like you know I
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could focus and visualize you know what was saying yeah was there a specific
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artist you you um you know I remember listening uh ready to die um very early
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you know what I'm saying I remember listening to graduation Kanye very early uh 2014 Forest Hills Drive um the Jay-Z
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Lincoln Park yeah um like a lot of different johs you know what I'm saying like I didn't I didn't dive straight
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into the deep end like you know what I'm saying but I I kind of like took it you know on a on a on a slope like I got
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with the with the biggest dudes and then you know like kind of like oh like what's what's what's below that you know
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what I'm saying like what's you know what I'm saying so yeah uh what about the heights you know there haven't been
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a lot of rappers coming out of there yeah n you know that's definitely something I take uh pride in you know
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especially with this tour coming up I'm bringing my bro uh life of time on the road with me and he's also from the
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heights so to have two kids from the heights um you know just going and putting on a tour is a big deal and um you know it's
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definitely uh it's definitely cool to be in this position cuz you know like there there's been like flashes in the pan but
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it's never been something that people you know what I'm saying like I was actually talking about this in a different interview I feel like the
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heights um like obviously I'm from there so I ain't trying to knock on it but I feel like just in terms of like how big
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of a name it is it's like a it's on like the B TI you know what I'm saying it's like it's not like Harlem with the brand
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name it's not like l or even like you know what I'm saying Williamsburg or or
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you know those those are brand name neighborhoods those is McDonald's and Coca-Cola and you know so like you come
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to New Time Square you know what I'm saying like those are the neighborhoods that is like adverti with New York you
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know and it's not like I live super in the cut it's not like I'm out in like Graves end or like you know what I'm
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saying like something where like you know no no disrespect to the graves and homies but y'all know y'all deep um but
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you know like people who live in New York have lived their lives in New York have been in the heights for one reason or another you know what I'm saying so
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again like it's not alien to people but it's not one of them brand name neighborhoods where I could just stand
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and be like yo I'm from Harlem yo I'm from Brooklyn I'm from bedy you know what I'm saying so um I definitely take
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responsibility and I don't I don't necessarily even want it to be like a harlem or or you know a Time Square like
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it's not a tourist attraction I don't look at it that way but you know just put some respect on on where I'm from
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and uh the culture and the history comes up out of there you know what I mean yeah what what was your life like growing up um I say I grew up pretty
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middle class you know what I'm saying I was never struggling to eat at night you know thank thankfully like my mother
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worked super hard always put food on the table and you know um you know I had I had support from you know my mom's and
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you know like that yeah um but yeah you know like at the end of the day like I was in public schools and just just
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doing regular New York you know what I'm saying so you as a New York kid you going you going to learn just how how
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you how like how to navigate you know the way I say it is like you know I was never starving at night but we also
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vacation for us was Grandma's house you know what I'm saying like like I wasn't One of Them White Boys on ski trips and
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you know doing all of that like you know what I mean like so we was getting by No Doubt you know what I'm saying but I
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would get one pair of shoes for the whole year you know I'm saying it wasn't but that's that's that's normal you know
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saying um so yeah you know what I mean and and I I'm very grateful for how I grew up both my moms and my pops and my
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sister um my grandparents all of them been supportive of what I'm doing so
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that's a blessing yeah um rumor has it you ran up on LY man about the
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movie oh man yeah no shout out shout out little man Miranda you know what I'm saying shining the light but yeah I met
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him at a master appeel event um I was Ill son like that didn't even feel like
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I was supposed to that was like the that yeah that was the first like hip-hop party I went to where I like where I
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walked in people like oh what's up I was like oh nonous there sty like everybody
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was I was there okay I met him there too I met him you know what I'm saying but that was an ill night but uh yeah I was
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smoking my cigarette outside I seen L man I had to give him love but I just had to let him know that you know what
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I'm saying where it stands at cuz I'm personally not a fan of what he does but I know he has put the Heights and he's
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put New York on a on a very great platform mhm for the world to see um so
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you know salutes to him for that you know I'm always rooting for someone coming out of the heist to do well yeah um I also just seen him in a Sopranos
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episode yeah I didn't see n it's like some he got like a like a two second part but it was El I was like man
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Miranda like pros uh which was cool that's dope but um yeah yeah you know what I'm saying shout out L man with
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Miranda I'm not going to put the cosign on in the heights but uh you know the the movie I think that was is is a
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little more stretched out than like the actual theater production of it you know what I'm saying got you um but then
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again like you know everybody got their cup of tea yeah yeah he's he's good guy you know everybody has a role every
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absolutely absolutely yeah you know I've been thinking a lot recently you keep up with wrestling at all yo I was at WWE on
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Monday that you were that was my first one though I ain't going to lie that was my first one so I I keep up a little bit
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right yeah so you know something I've been thinking about especially with the John Cena that just happened is like
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heels or faces in hip-hop cuz I feel like everybody people are heels or faces in hip-hop and it's like for me like I
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don't think I'm like a Ultra heel but I'm not a face either like I'm kind of one of them in between dudes like I'm I
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might be a bad guy but the fans with me you know what I'm saying I might be like my moral compass is is not determined
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you know what I'm saying like like a CM Punk or like a edge or like a you know what I'm saying um where they got to
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respect the ability but you know I might drw off a little too much but uh you know L Manuel is definitely a super baby
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face you know what I'm saying so that's not the Super Baby Face you know you know I mean I surround myself with a lot
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of rappers who I think will fall under the face category I think I surround myself with a lot of dudes who are under the hill category too but I'm definitely
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I think a little in between like right you know I mean but I think it's a funny thing to think about like I could think about it for hours you just thinking
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rappers yo they he little face like I was doing that in my girl room I like you know what I'm saying she show I'm
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like so wonder what the fu this guy is you know what I'm saying I'm like imagine them as rappers and wrestlers
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you know what I mean facts facts that's funny so I think of them like superheroes super villains same same type concept same concept though you
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know what I'm saying like exactly the same concept yeah that was fun did you uh did you enjoy it I had a great time
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man yeah I actually came up on those tickets super super ill way too you know what I'm saying I'm put my boy on blast
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right now but you know Paul Heyman yeah so Paul heyman's son grew up with the kid who gave me the name sko okay um so
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the dude who like first ever called me sko my man Zach shout out to Zach grew up they was best friends with Jacob hyon
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wow so whatever when I put out my first tape ever you know homie DM me yo I I like super dope tape I like all the
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wrestling references and I was like yo thanks so much bro like I just thought I was like oh that's dope and then like a
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couple weeks ago I just woke up to a DM that was like yo I know this is random like we ain't really talk in a few years
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or whatever but you know I be keeping up with what you doing I know you a fan of wrestling um like he was like you was
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all over my Spotify rap like I just wanted to offer you some tickets to Monday night row I was like are you kidding me bro I was like hell yeah yo
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shout out shout out Jacob Heyman I'm a Paul Heyman guy you know what I'm saying shout out ECW all of that but yeah man
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that was really dope that was like a dream come true for me because if you told like seven-year-old me that I would get tickets to WWE because I was just
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cool and good at rapping I would be like oh that's so dope I would also probably be sad if you told seven-year-old me
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that that happened because I would have thought I'd be in the ring right boming a table either way super dope shout out
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my man Jacob Heyman hell yeah who who who you call yourself of somebody who's
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Jeff Hardy Jeff Jeff Hardy yeah that's right yeah Jeff Hardy why you call yourself the Jeff Hardy of rap yo he's
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just a wild he's a wild boy you know what I'm saying he put it all on the line um you know and he was just a weird
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white boy that was that was good in the hood you know what I'm saying so that that's kind of that's the parallel there
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and um you know I'm down to jump off the ladder Swanton bombs and all of that and you know he was one of my favorites
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growing up and um that's how it is Jeff Hardy you know yeah but but let's not
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let's not forget the Newport Lord skirt Cobain derik Jeter flees Christ there a
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lot of ones you know I'm a man of many names yeah y That's what's up that's dope man I'm getting into it a lot more
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now you know when I was little I I was all in and then I fell off a little bit no like the same happened like I watched
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that I was like I loved it like I you you know I had like the action figures I
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had all that I watched every single thing you know and then I kind of just grew out of it a little but I never like
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turned around and was like that I hate wrestling like no I always was like yo that cool I always kept like a little
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eye on it you know what I'm saying dro the balls whatever you know what I mean um and then you know what really did it
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for me was uh the Westside gun interview oh U the Westside gun interview the Westside gun show in Chicago um so I was
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at that and like when I was at it just like I just felt the spuck you know it
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was really like it was rap and wrestling like the like two like my favorite things so it just was really cool it was
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awesome shout out to gun and smoke dizza for ROP you know what I'm saying shout out Ricky gray too but uh yo was ill and
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like I came back from that and I was like damn yo like I'm about I'm about to start checking a little bit a little
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more you know I'm going throw W in there too W is a big wrestling here n w is W
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is the man I said I said smoke Di and gun though cuz they uh they run four row yeah yeah but W is the man too and the
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other thing I about W with Seinfeld I with Seinfeld super heavy too you know what saying who your favorite character
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ah don't even do me like that I got to say George though cuz George he's the funniest like he's the most ridiculous
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one but at the same time like sometimes he said and I'm like that makes sense y'all are bugging like he's kind of
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correct you know what I mean right right um but George is like the funniest thing I think one of my favorite episodes is the one where like he gets the job with
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the Yankees because like he's like my whole life is has been going wrong like I'm just going to do the opposite of
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everything that I think and he's doing the opposite he like pulls like a bad he like gets his job with the Yankees he's
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like his whole life turns around because he's literally like going against every Instinct that he has which is just
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hilarious I'm a big fan of curb um and I like Seinfeld too because I think it's like Seinfeld it reminds me like the
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early albums before like an artist reaches his final form and like curb is like you see the elements of humor that
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like were president seld and they just like but yeah sel's a great show shout out to
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Larry David shout out Larry David yo he's got go to be one of the funniest mother ever what I'm saying shout JB
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smooth on that is hilarious too and Richard went further than Seinfeld which
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is the crazy is that true I think he had more seasons that that is true that is definitely true herb definitely has more
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seasons I mean you're probably right I'm not saying it's not more I feel like Seinfeld is like a like that's like that
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even atow like it's just mad iconic you know but CB you know I think you're right it definitely has has spanned
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longer um and I think it I think it's a funnier show too you know what I'm saying yeah yeah different different
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settings though I put on sefel when I'm going to sleep like watch episode you know what I mean like but curb is like
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if I'm watching it like I'm G watch it and be like curb is like the one I got some food I'm G watch curb you know yeah
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yeah that's what's up um you talked about rock Nation real quick what's your
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relationship with them pretty cool man yeah yeah man shout out shout out Rock Nation um you know excited to put my
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records out you know what I'm me I'm saying hardworking team over there um you know some people have distribution
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like that and it it doesn't mean anything yeah I mean it definitely um
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you know to me it means something you know what I'm saying just because obviously you know the brand name aside
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like you know um you know I signed the whole deal like pretty much you know I got an advance I got a video budget you
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know what I'm saying marketing all of that so you know it's it's pretty similar to like a damn near is like a a
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real deal you know it's not like a major like it's not like I'm gonna make a song and they're like nah you got to get
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Kanani on this like you know what I'm saying they're not pulling strings like that but you know I'll hand them the
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music and once the product is in their hands you know we just got to hope they going to do what they do you know but
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ultimately you know I think a lot is on the artist to just you know make make the product that's that could go
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somewhere you know what I'm saying um it says a lot about you too though to me like they seem like they believe in you
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absolutely yeah they they uh they we've been with each other for a minute you know what I'm saying I signed like
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shortly after my uh shortly before my 19th birthday so you know I put out my
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first tape with him it was good you know we ran it back and um you know always always love you know what I'm saying
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just good to be breaking bread breaking into the industry and uh you know doing
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it at a place you know in home base is is definitely cool too you know what I'm saying yeah I need that whole verse
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though you heard all right you know that was my next question I already know but yeah we got to get that we we got to get
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that at least the flick at least at least the dinner you know yeah right right invite invite me to the brunch you know what I mean ain't no more brunch
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brunch is G I know the brunch got deaded but you know we got to bring the brunch back we we do yeah actually I'm going
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bring the all hip hop brunch back since since they not doing it put me on the list man show up with my my finest suede
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you know okay no that's a fact that's a fact
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who's your dream well we said Jay but who's aside from that who's your dream collab Jay is definitely a dream collab
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um you know what's sad to say and it's a little depression I feel like when people ask me my dream collab like Genie in a Bottle I feel like I always got to
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say someone who's dead yeah you know what I'm saying just off the sense that like I really can't get that like I
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could only dream to get that you know what I'm saying like like for people live like I I would love to do a song
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with Wayne but I also think I'm like two years away from that you know what I'm saying I would love to do a song with kiss and you know like that but those
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are things that I'm like I I see it down the line you know so like for dream collabs I got to say MF Doom for sure I
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gotta say Sean Price I gotta say mac um Prodigy
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um Dam yeah you know what I'm saying too many good ones biggie obviously um but
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in terms of living little when is up there for me J kiss uh G herbo Danny
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Brown um Joey for show um Alchemist in terms of producers in
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terms of producers Al Primo just blaze right uh Mad Lib um I actually did some
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joints on a mad lip joint but they're not coming out someone already got the beat oh but that's happening though you
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know what I'm saying on YouTube yeah yeah you know I don't like I don't like swager jacking that's
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should be that's should be you know what I mean um but yeah man so you know it's definitely definitely a lot but in terms of like if
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if I had a Genie in a Bottle I would say Doom Sean Price biggie Mac
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um yeah yeah it's crazy man you had um visually represented for Big L at one
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point yeah for sure that's when you really got Big L rest in peace yeah a lot of people's attention yeah man no I mean you know he was building the rooll
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out but uh you know I just I I wanted to pay homage to one of my favorite MC's on that [ __ ] big out was another one my big
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out and Big Pun for the dream collabs as well you know um just to go back to that but uh you know I felt I felt like you
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know it was the right thing to do um you know what I mean just in terms of like helping uh a newer uh generation of
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hip-hop understand um the cloth that I'm coming from and paying homage to you
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know what I'm saying and you know as you mentioned earlier um with the with you know washing the Heights and feeling the
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need to put on for it you know I kind of tried to parallel that to uh what Big L
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had done obviously he wasn't the first rapper in Harlem but you know um he's dropping references and you know showing
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love to Harlem throughout that whole record so you know I was doing the same for my neighborhood and uh really what
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tied it together was I knew I wanted the United Palace sign in the album cover
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but I didn't want to just like take a picture of it like you know what I'm saying um and you know when I was like
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looking at the colors I was like this kind of has a similar color scheme to what the L cover would be and then on
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top of that if we were going to take the picture with me in it there was going to be a street sign right there right that would precariously be placed in the same
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place that the 139th and lenux Joint was on so you know I think everything kind of fell into place uh properly on that
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shout out to photo Rob one of the most photo Rob did that joint you know photo Rob Legend yo shout out to photo Rob
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super super gracious human and just you know one of the best dudes in hip-hop yeah and um you know killed it came
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through he was super excited about the idea he came through to the hood and took some pictures he took some like reference pictures like this how it's
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going to be and then he's like you know we we planned the whole out it was dope um you know and just you know we ran it
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by some of the estate some DIC members and you know they was like oh this is this is cool you know so uh so they
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authenticated it you know shout out shout outs Lord finesse shout outs Buck Wild and um you know it was uh it
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definitely uh it's definitely you know I know it's a big statement and a risky statement especially as like a white kid but you know I just I'm from that cloth
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of hip-hop you know what I'm saying so that's what I'm repping for and you know yeah hell yeah that's what's up I want
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I'm G tell you my um photo Rob story real quick yeah what's that so long you know you know Rel you know a minute ago
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I was uh had a had a night out on the town whatever whatever yeah yeah as we
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and as as fate would have it I lost my wallet right now this wasn't just any
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wallet this was a wallet my daughter made for me oh yeah you got a hand made daughter made wallet yeah right so I
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went home and I had completely lost my wallet and I was upset cuz I lost my
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wallet everything in it and long story short one day my wallet just popped into
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my maal and showed up right but that wasn't the full story The the story was
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um I forget how the correspondence happened but long story short it was
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photo Rob's sister wow and she's in a band she's like completely unrelated and
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she's like so we start talking a little bit and I was so thankful and then she was like you you you should know my
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brother he's a photographer in hip-hop and so she linked me up to him and we've been like twins ever since yeah photo
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Rob is the man me and that dude like if he if he calls you expect a long conversation
29:29
man you know what I'm saying he always got gems he always got wisdom always positive energy and um you know aside
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from all that he takes some of the best photos in the game you know so you know if you if you a part of that New York
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hip-hop Community you definitely seen photo Rob around might you might even caught you looking good once or twice
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you know that's what it is super humble absolutely The Humble God right there let's talk about your um your your your
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your clothes your I don't know what do they call it your swag I don't know what they call it you know what I mean
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whatever it is you came in with the official ax did I did the real Jo I did do that I might have seen it before
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though so you know what I'm saying I was being fair yeah good n but you wear a lot of Coogi sweaters you know you got
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the butters on yeah man icebergs Polo called Canan um use some academic jeans
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fat farms um you know yeah that's uh you know truthfully I'm I love thrifting and
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I and I was really into it like couple years ago when I first got like my first little rap money and I was like all
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right it's time to start like dressing you know what I'm saying and um you know again like I'm I'm big on like you got
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to walk at H you talk it so like if I was doing all of this old school hip-hop and I was wearing tight ass jeans I
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think I would get mother looking at me a little funny you know what I'm saying and ultimately I'm a big dude um um so
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you know I like the I like the roominess and the you know what I mean and um you know yeah like I I just the way I think
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about it is like I want to really like you know I can't live in 1994 New York
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you know what I'm saying that's never gonna that's not gonna happen unless I stumble upon a time machine right um and
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I don't know if I'd want to live in 1994 y yeah I think I I'm I'm good without it but with that being said like you know
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like like aome Kobe like you got to train like the best you got to do everything like the best to be the best
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you know so with that being said I was like yo like you know if I'm if I'm
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going to be as good as these dudes if if I'mma even be close to their level like let me even take it down to like what
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was they wearing you know what I'm saying like like what was they putting on their body what what you know what I'm saying so you know I also think it's
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a thing of like if I get a really dope flick I'm 30 years from now might not be able to know if it's from now or you
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know what I'm saying like people's heads and you know I really just want to do like I'm trying to do all the same reps
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that biggie did and that Prodigy did and that Nas and Jay-Z and all all of them did so you know even down to the way I'm
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rocking my like I just you know what I mean and um also shout out Shout Out Post VSOP I'm saying legendary graph
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writer um but he has all the old hip-hop flicks you know what I'm saying um super
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super legendary like he knows all the history about koogi and Berg and Polo
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and all of that so you know I'm a big uh fan of his I've been following his page for for a few years met him met him a
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few times super cool dude um but yeah you know so I just think I wanted
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everything to you know building a brand is really important nowadays as an artist like having a brand is as
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important as how good your music sounds you know what I'm saying and it's even better if your music sounds like your
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brand you know what I'm saying like like yeah so you know I think all of that put
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together um you know it gives people the whole picture people understand what's coming at them you know what I mean now
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your hair yeah is not 90s that's more well well well well could be it could be
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you know I feel like I I'm throwing a little you know I look like a lot of people tell me I look like the dude from clerks J Jay and Silent Bob you know yo
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I swear to God if I S if I show you my text my homeboy I sent him I sent him
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your a video and that's exactly what he sent me back yeah but you know like shouts out shouts out to Jay and Silent
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Bob that classic Stone but you know like you know I can't be out here with
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cornrows or nothing so I got to Let It Rock you know what I'm saying and ultimately like your hair carries a lot of energy so you know yeah know that's a
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fact you know I've always been like aware of that and try to take care of my hair and you know what I'm saying um I
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always say too like I ain't going to cut my hair until it'll be a headline so okay you know if I drop off the face of
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the Earth for like a year or two and come back with a shaved head crazy tattoos and 40 lbs lighter you going to
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know what's coming at you and it's going to be the craziest album but right you know we got a few years like I'm not I'm not cutting the hair until I step out
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and TMZ like yo Lord skull cut his head you know what I'm saying right yeah um but facts you know so we just got to let
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it breathe it really started through the pandemic like I needed a haircut and then like going into the pandemic and
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then you know what I'm saying like I wasn't I wasn't feeling sitting in the laun chair outside getting the shape of I was like you know we GNA let this [ __ ]
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grow out a little bit all right are you ready are you so you know when we were
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just briefly waiting for you to get here you know I wasn't on I wasn't on that bad rapping time I was like five minutes
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I said briefly I said briefly but it was just you know I think about that because I was like you know I don't know how you
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got here but you walked on the Block at least are you ready you know are you ready for the fame are you ready for the
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the not being able to do that I'd like to think so man you know what I'm saying like truthfully I think what my problem
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is is I might even be too nice you know what I'm saying like if a fan approaches me I'm still excited you know what I'm
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saying like and I don't ever want to be like a to my fans and you know what I'm saying so it's a balance that I'm going
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to need to find but you know I'm a star I made for this you know what I'm saying and to kind of um expand on what you was
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saying um something actually really cool happened to me and and it's scary but it's cool but I was on the subway
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literally last Thursday yeah and my phone was there but I still had my headphones plugged in you know I was just kind of like chilling whatever
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trying to get what I'm trying to get um and these two kids got on the train and
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you know they came up to me and one of them was like yo L go and I was like yeah what's up you know game and D he turned man like yo yo you know what I'm
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saying and like they were hyped they was like young kids coming out of school yeah um but you know like the little homies like they took the time to pick
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my brain like he didn't use that as an opportunity yo listen to my music yo he was like yo I've been making my own boom
35:43
my man here directing videos D like you know you just got any advice like how to
35:48
go about that and you know like they they was very they was listening you know I was like yo sit down you know
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what I'm saying and and that felt really good because they like they was internalizing what I was saying but that
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meant a lot to me you know what I'm saying cuz like I was just kind of giving my like I felt old like I was
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like how old are y they were like 17 18 I was like damn bro then I was like I'mma have my un moment like on the BL
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like you know what I'm saying but I gave him some good advice um you know the main thing I said and this is a gem I
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like giving to people um DJ Premier gave me this gem is don't say the word try so he got on train I was like so so what
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you doing he's like I'm trying to do this I'm trying to do that I was like yo don't say that he's like what you mean I like try cuz when you put that word in
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front of the that you are working towards that's the energy it carries people try their whole lives and never
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succeed you know what I'm saying trying is different than doing and succeeding if you trying to do something and you
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pushing that energy out into the world yo I'm trying to do this you gonna keep trying you know what I'm saying you're not doing that I told him that and he
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was like damn I gota like write that down in my notes and I was like yo please you know cuz when PR when P told
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me that that was the first time I ever spoke to p I was with static and static was just like you ever spoke to PR I was
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like nope FaceTime he was like yo you know this kid nope he was like yo talk so I'm talking to PR he's like what you
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working on kid like DJ Premiere voice yeah and I and I was like I said the same thing y I'm trying to do this he
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was like yo don't say that my heart sunk below my ball sack I was like damn I just offended DJ premere like my career
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is over I'm like what I say he was like yo don't say try you know you got to do it you know trying is different than
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doing and you know that really flipped my perspective on it you know now whenever I hear people say that word it's like that's my opportunity to be
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like You Know Each one teach one you know what I'm saying but um you know at the same time like it's scary to be
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approached on the subway I had a this was this was weird I was on the subway and I could tell was like taking a
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picture of me you know what I'm saying I was like maybe I just got that on yeah and like I like you know he was like
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really like I saw it and I was like I L said I was like yo like like you want a
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picture or something right he was like yo my fault bro my friend is such a big fan I was like how about this yo come here let's take a picture like you know
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what I'm saying and send it to your mans you know what I mean like don't be sneaky with like you know what I'm saying I ain't going to bite but uh you
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know it's dope you know what I'm saying um and it's definitely a blessing and you know meeting my supporters and
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people who show me love is great because it lets me know that the Love is Real you know what I'm saying and um that's
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always that's always fun and you know it's always good I always you know want to make sure to like be cool you know
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what I'm saying like you know I wouldn't be cool if mother didn't even like my music no one would care to meet me in
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the street if there wasn't who cared to meet me in the street you know what I'm saying so you know I definitely uh try
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to stay humble in that aspect if you come if you come to me and you you asking for a feature like in the second sentence though I'm my mood is going to
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shift I'mma hit you with yo hit my team yo hit my DM and right right might never get answered but I'mma use that yeah
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that's what I'm going use from now hit my team hit my team like yeah I got it
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you know they in my bio hit them fact you what I'm saying right um yo Dante
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Ross we had to talk about Dante Dante and me we're like I don't think we've met in
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person before but we're Facebook friends we're all the things on on on you know
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this thing we're on whatever the simulation is but Dante is so cool the only thing about Dante he told me Cafe
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Bell coffee is whack and I said come on what are we doing right now like he N I don't think he said that he love his
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brell what misheard him last time I was at his CRI I all the boell you serious I
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swear he Lov his Bell oh he's from the Lower East bro you sure he's from the L I know for a fact cuz we talked about
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how he likes Cafe Buell you know what I'm saying not even going front like cuz he he be telling me straight up like he live in LA like you could go get $8
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lattes all he wants still got the the bell in the C I'm G have to look at this this this was on this literally played
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out on Facebook I'm going have to yeah yeah check the receipts cuz cuz you know I might even call them after
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but I know I know we got you know what I'm saying but but he he's such a legend man he he's super like he stands on
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principle like I love it oh yeah damn right you know and um you know me and him talk like every day okay at least
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once a day um and you know like I got so much uh admiration for him you know what
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I'm saying and um that's why that's why you know having him as my managers is such a blessing you know and when it
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comes down to like decision times it's not always the best if me and him don't see eye to eye but I mainly feel that way because I trust him so if I disagree
40:31
with him I feel like something is wrong you know what I'm I'm saying like I like I trust him and his experience so you
40:37
know it's scary to disagree with someone who got a resume like that even if I feel like it's the autistic decision
40:42
that I want to make you know what I'm saying at the same time he's he's taught me a lot about the business aspect of of
40:49
the music industry and like making a product that like making a product you know what I'm saying not just making
40:55
songs or making or rapping verses but making something that is packageable you
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know what I'm saying Within the Music you know what I mean um so he's told he's pushed me a lot to to go further
41:06
with my songwriting abilities and and and make Hooks and more fleshed out records and you know he always just
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stays on me like you know I'm I'm a weird smoking dude with ADHD so if something needs to get done he's
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probably called me four times this week about it um and that's what it is I need someone like that in my corner you know
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what I'm saying he's definitely a pull um and uh you know definitely stands on principle and you know me and him are
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very very similar you know what I'm saying like sometimes like we talk to each other and we're like yo like like
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I'm talking to the rapper version of you I'm talking to the industry version of me you know what I'm saying right and that's the thing too is like I've met a
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lot of Industry dudes and a lot of them is like phony dudes you know what I'm saying which is cool like they're
41:46
industry dudes like I have friends who are industry friends you know what I'm saying like am I going to go hang out with them no but we can we can go break
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bread we could talk you know I could talk to you on the phone like your presence don't disgust me you know what
41:58
I'm saying but he's a real dude who just ended up in the Death Jam office and then ended up being the Electra anr
42:06
Tommy Boy you know his resume speaks for itself but you know he hasn't lost his Edge you know what I'm saying at the
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same time he's still one of the smartest like seeing that dude in in meetings with labels like that like when it comes
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down to it like he's a he's a genius yo he'll take over the room you know what I'm saying and that's that's a dude who
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I'm you know obviously a blessing to having you Corner mhm um you know you
42:31
kind of touched on this but it seems like your the stoner movement is more
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loudly promoted now is this yeah no definitely uh yeah for sure you know what I'm saying I got arrested for
42:43
smoker we when I was like 14 so maybe maybe I'm still holding a grudge about it that it's you know what I'm saying um
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it's all legal now yeah you know but for me like I think um especially with the
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legalization aspect I just think um you know I like Miss weed culture you know
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what I'm saying like I I kind of miss like walking into a smoke shop and seeing like the giant like 10 foot roster with the pipe and like everything
43:08
was like weed leaf and like tiedye and all of that you know what I'm saying and I it's like Rick and Morty and like Zaza
43:15
world and like like like you know what I'm saying like your weed bag gonna have a with a fat ass on it which is like
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cool like yeah but like you know what I'm saying like if I really want to see that I'mma look it up on the internet you know what I'm saying I just want
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good weed I don't give a what the bag look like you know what I'm saying that's me personally like I'm not picky
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about weed like that's the thing I know some people are mad picky about weed I'm
43:38
not picky about weed like unless it's dirt weed like I will smoke it cuz I've gotten to a point where people give me a
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bag of weed people hand me their blunt it's like what am I going to do be like what what strin do you have in here I'm be like thanks for the weed bro yeah
43:50
there you go you know like that's what it is and um you know what really stemmed from it was I saw Whiz Khalifa
43:56
put a tweet out like probably two years ago at this point so I came mad late with my response to his tweet but uh he
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was like people don't make stoner music no more I'm like yo you the one who's supposed to be doing that yeah how you saying that that's like not saying
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people don't make hip-hop anymore like yeah what you know what I mean um but yeah like I was like man what you know
44:14
what I'm saying so I love smoking weed it's part of my daily routine so you know it uh it's easy thing to rap about
44:23
consuming and the lifestyle of and uh yeah you said something about his friends
44:30
white powder or something what was that you said yeah uh homie selling drugs the color of the president house yeah yeah
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yeah that facts yeah that was that was a but we only endorsing the weed you know
44:41
what I'm saying we I endorse weed and shrooms those is my endorsements anything else that you doing is your
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decision I was with a guy he was tripping on some shrooms don't get me wrong I yo I was we
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were at the Grammys we were Grammy parties wow he was tripping I was like
44:59
bro man get your man he's yeah shrooms shrooms will do it to you man like cuz
45:04
it you know the thing for me about when I take shrooms is like I like forget that I took them and then like an hour
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later I'll be like why is weird and I'll be like oh yeah took shs you know yeah
45:16
definitely definitely Legacy let's talk Legacy I mean you're building a legacy already but yeah but let me let me say
45:22
this you know well maybe this is probably not the right way but
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um I don't know man a lot of people mess their legacy up like I feel like they start with the people and then oh a
45:37
couple years later they're not with the people you know what I mean 100% um it's
45:43
happening a lot it is it is you know I think a lot of people do it to themselves too like sadly it's like
45:49
everybody got a microphone in front of their face with social media being the case so you know some people just say d
45:56
and then you know you shouting that to an audience of hundreds of thousands millions sometimes hundreds of millions
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you know what I'm saying so that that's what it comes down to is like you know like like yeah you can't isolate your
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audience you know what I'm saying like a lot of people build a fan base of people who love them and then turn around and say like those people and it's like you
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can't really say those people like you wouldn't you wouldn't be without them you know what I'm saying so yeah it gets
46:22
tricky um you know I think of Legacy a lot like you know like not in no like
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suicidal type way but just like you know like when I'm gone like what will be left to remember me am I going to get a
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T-shirt and an Instagram post or you know what I'm saying is it going to be like people talk about me and and
46:39
generations after me are like yo I want to sound like SK I want to like I want to wear the skull was wearing like you
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know what I'm saying so that to me is definitely important and definitely something that I uh you know like think
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about a lot you know what I'm saying and um yeah you know it's a crazy thing because there's a lot of happening and
46:58
truthfully like it's a weird world that we live in like it you know like it's hard to feel like anybody cares about
47:04
anything you know what I'm saying like everybody and that's true like we're in a kind of space in the world where like
47:09
everybody only has enough space to care about themselves you know what I'm saying like not on no selfie it's like
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you're not paying the rent for me you know what I'm saying like you know what I mean so yeah you know it gets it gets
47:21
tricky and and everybody got damn so you know yeah so you just said a lot
47:27
yeah but what what you what really hit me was when you said somebody the second sentence they're asking for something like yeah that's going to come to that's
47:35
with yo yeah like yo like you know I don't know man like I would be at a lot
47:41
of popups as a kid and and like I always wanted to like you know like promote but
47:47
I would I would never try to like be in he about it I'll be like yo this my name
47:53
you going to see me in a few years you know and and was cool about that is the people told that see me in a few I
47:58
remember like yo I went I I went first time I met Rock Mossy I went to his popup I literally said I was like yo
48:05
like I think you're the only rapper who I listen to that's like better than me at rapping you know what I'm saying I
48:11
like truthfully like he's the only Rapp I listen to that makes me like feel bad about rapping I'm like this guy is so
48:17
good like it's [ __ ] you know what I'm saying and then I like you know shortly after like I was being managed
48:23
by Saleem who manages him and it was just funny cuz he like remembered me you know what I'm saying like he was like yo
48:29
I was mad ill like I remember you from the popup and I was like yo like you know I told you he was like you told me
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you know I mean yeah that was a good feeling um but yeah man you know what I'm saying like truthfully the other
48:40
thing that I think is hard for a lot of young artists to grasp is is that like there's no magic button you know what
48:45
I'm saying it just doesn't exist like I think a lot of people think like yo if I do this with this person like it's going
48:51
to you know like it doesn't work like that which is like you know unless you're literally going to go do a song
48:56
and video with Drake it's not the case you know what I'm saying like you know and we don't even know if the Drake
49:02
coong got the same strength anymore you know so uh definitely not you know respectfully yeah it don't you know but
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uh it's a hard thing like there's no magic button to be pressed by somebody
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you know like there's a lot of buttons that will be pressed throughout the thing but that's what it's going to be
49:20
it's not one or or two you know what I'm saying and the other thing is just like working on your craft like absolutely
49:26
being consistent yeah like addressing your audience like right you know and
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knowing it could take years and and I think Rock Mary is a perfect example cuz he has literally fed his fan base like
49:39
what they want yeah every time you know right same thing with like a like a Freddy Gibbs or a gun or like someone
49:46
like that like they have so much their work rate is incredible you know what I and it's consistent you know what I'm
49:53
saying like not to say they can't go do other things Freddy Freddy Gibbs got trap albums but like he knows what his
49:58
fans want that's the other thing it's like once you build a fan base you know I think where a lot of artists like
50:04
where it gu tricky for a lot of artists is like they build a fan base and that's cool but they don't know where to go
50:09
from there right and they know what their fans want but at the same time it's like they want to build like this
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is the you know this is something I'm kind of thinking about on this album truthfully is like yeah like having a
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certain amount of fans is cool right now I got I think 70 something K on Spotify monthly listeners I mean 70k people list
50:26
to my music this month that's great but ASAP Rocky got 20 million like 70k in
50:33
the splash like that's a that's nothing you know what I'm saying like it is is not even a comparison you know so
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there's literally millions and millions hundreds of millions of people waiting
50:45
to hear your music they don't know who you are you know what I'm saying so you got to sometimes make music to appeal to
50:50
those people you know what I'm saying but you also got to find out how to not alienate the people that you already
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brought with you you know what I'm saying saying it's like you know I mean like you going to a party you brought all your homies with you but you can't
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go run off of them when you see the B what I'm saying you got to figure it out you I'm saying so yeah no feel you yeah
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that's what's up um last question hell yeah what made you add Lord in front of
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the name Lord skull what what what you know yeah yeah so I mean I'm sure your
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boy didn't say hey man Lord SC n he didn't he said SC you know what I'm saying so I was running with that for a
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little bit um but what really tied it together was you know a few things um
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main one being that there was like a like a bum who used to live in my neighborhood um who he always weighed
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out front the 168 c train I'm saying I would see him when I left for school
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sometimes when I got back from school he would always ask me for a dollar or Newport and and he would be like Lord of
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the Rings Lord of the Rings I'll be like oh this guy you know so you know I always I always held him down um but
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that that I just thought was fly you know what I'm saying um kind of like a little throwback to where I'm from I
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never seen Lord of the Rings I also don't see homie around no more um word on the street was that he passed which
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is unfortunate but uh you know that and then you know I didn't even know it kind of ended up working out for me because
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like I didn't even know that like Lord was kind of like the New York underground rap version of like what Li
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is to like the South I thought I was like unique with Lord and now it's like everybody's Lord so you know it's cool
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and uh you know I remember when I first started making music I was like oh maybe I just want to like you know I put out
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like a tape or two under Lord sko and then I was like maybe I should just be sko but uh truthfully I think the Lord
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sko it like got like a like a anunciation with the O's it sounds really cool it kind of like bounces off
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each other it's not like a direct rhyme but like the O um you know like it's you
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on the head twice you know what I'm saying definitely um so yeah um that's kind of how that came together Newport
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Lord [ __ ] you know what I mean Newport Lord yeah I peep the Newports in the in the video Yeah well um so peep these nah
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you hey man but don't be you know we don't want you to have cancer in a year yeah my goal is to put them down I don't
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want to sound go my goal is to put him down by like 30 you know what I'm saying 30 yeah that's too long man I mean like
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maybe 25 I got like a few more years you can smoke I'm not like a pack a day smoker though you know what I'm saying
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like I'm the Newport Lord because always asking me to bum the cigarette and I you know you ask and I shall receive so you
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know I'm a generous Newport sharer you know what I'm saying as well as a consumer but I'm not going through a
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pack a day and you know at the end of the day yeah it's it's something I acknowledge is not the healthiest for me
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so you know it's in the back of my mind but uh you know the weed comes first anyway you know what I mean all right cool cool I'll accept that appreciate
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you man yeah bro definit respect for don't make it your last either yeah man
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let's let's keep it going man definitely
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