RZA Says Raekwon Holding Up Wu-Tang Album, Raekwon Finds That Funny

(AllHipHop News) Wu-Tang Clan was founded on a brotherhood of men who developed a real life fraternity that translated into some of the most cohesive group albums ever. 20 years after their seminal debut album Enter The 36 Chambers, founding members of the group can not agree on why a new Wu Tang Clan album has not manifested yet.

In a recent interview with ESPN’s Grantland posted on Friday (November 8th), RZA explained that while a few members have put in time working on the album, the hold up on the new Wu Tang Clan album attests to fragmented efforts:

You know, I give Cappadonna credit, he’s been really on it. U-God has been present. Masta Killa be representing. Inspectah Deck has been somewhat present. Ghost has been, you know, 20 percent present. And Raekwon hasn’t shown up at all. When you look at somebody like Masta Killa and U-God, they seem to have that original hunger to complete the legacy. I respect that everybody [is] busy with they own lives. I started with a plan that I thought would work. Now maybe my plan not working.

Raekwon responded to these claims the following day (November 9th) by taking to his personal Twitter account to laugh it off and insinuate that RZA is lying:

These turn of events may be disheartening to fans but should not be shocking given RZA and Raekwon’s recent comments about each other in the news. When Raekwon and Ghostface failed to appear at a few Rock The Bells dates with their Wu Tang brethren, RZA informed HipHopDX in September that this was happening because the pair were “bullsh*tting”:

There’s no reason for them not to be here. But the beautiful thing is, ‘Okay, you’re not here, but guess what: we’re bringing the technology of [Ol’ Dirty Bastard] on your a*s.

Raekwon shed more light on what he believes is holding up a new Wu Tang Clan album on MTV’s RapFix back in February alluding to unsatisfactory business arrangements as being a central cause of the album’s delay:

I just want everything to be right, the business. When we made a lot of our great music, it was because we were in harmony. You cannot put guys together if there is no harmony, and on top of it, we’re doing business. As a man with children, I have to always look at that. It’s bigger than sometimes just the thought of it, the fact of it, it just gotta make sense.

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The entire Wu Tang Clan is expected to be in attendance at the screening of the Ol Dirty Bastard documentary Dirty: Platinum Edition at Brooklyn Historic Academy of Music on November 15th.

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34 Responses to “RZA Says Raekwon Holding Up Wu-Tang Album, Raekwon Finds That Funny”

    • sesa

      lol…thinking Canada is better than America…go watch some ice soccer and listen to Bryan Adams….You may retract your comment after doing both of those simultaneously. Good thing you have maple syrup or Canada would be shutout.

  1. JimJames29

    As I recall the way they did business is rza (as a producer) got 50% of every album and the mc’s (including rza) got the other 50. Which means like 58% for rza and about 5% for everyone else depending on how many verses you have (not quality).
    In other words, rae and ghost are the stars of the group these days, and they deserve more money than some of these other dudes, especially rza with his experimental *ss beats (house of flying daggers on obfc2 was produced by j dilla and not only is it the best, its also the most wu tang sounding beat on the album).
    I’m pretty sure this is what raekwon is alluding to and its hard to disagree with him.

    • atle fjeldstad

      It takes more time to produce an album than to write 16 bars and spit. Rza mixes everything to. It`s not about who is hottest. It`s about how much time you spend. I think it`s hard not to disagree.

      • JimJames29

        Well is also about who is the hottest. I’m sure capadonna would work really hard on it, but in the end you also gotta ask ‘why are people buyng this album?’. Also, if rae thinks he can make way more money recording and promoting a solo album, why would he spend his time ona wu tang record. Thas what he means with ‘its gotta make sense’. Under this 50-50divided by 9 model, hes basically giving ugod and inspectah deck money. Not that there anything wrong with that, but if he doesnt want to, its time to negotiate.
        Also, this 50-50 model doesn’t sit well with me for some reason. I can’t explain why, but it just feels unfair, like too much money going to rza. I guess its fair if theres 2 people in he group, instad of 9.

      • atle fjeldstad

        RZA probably spends 10+ hours on one song, arranging, mixing and making sure every detail fits to the verse and Raekwon spent an hour max recording. Besides it`s the royalty ratings.. Rae might loose money, but u can`t be sure the he would have been able to loose money if it wasn`t for RZA`s sound 😉

      • JimJames29

        Oh I definitely agree with that last statement, he’d probably never be where he is today if it weren’t for rza. But then, he argument is pretty much loyalty, and if you keep up with whats happening in hiphop its always money over loyalty (cam vs jim jones, jay vs beanie and so on).
        I agree too with the guy that said its weak to take it to twitter, but at the same time rza called them out by name in that interview…

      • JimJames29

        Btw, just a quick thought: how does this work with multiple producers? I know for example a neptunes beat is more expensive than lets say a boi1da beat, those producders just ask a fee. Now if lets say eminem did a whole album with a mid-tier producer and sells 8 million records, would that proucer get royalties worth 4 million records? I think not. Even though that producer would work just as hard on it. Like a good lawyer and a bad lawyer, Eminems time is just worth more than DJ Khalil’s. Or if eminem and royce make an album together, obviously eminem is the main attraction, not to take anything away from royce, so if he gets fifty percent hes basically riding his coattails. I definitely see where you’ re coming from though. Personally I could definitely get behind a wu album with fishscale/obfc2 quality beats. Then if rza would rather do all of the production by himself, its negotiation time.

  2. RAMADAwhite

    so whats method man been up to i like how he aint mention him. Rza sounds salty all the time in interviews like fools need to kiss his ass. He’s dope don’t get me wrong but if you ask wu tang fans who’s their favorite and more popular the dudes he names that are “barely there” and “not present” are the ones people are really checking for

    • johnblacksad

      no lie, RZA has been my favorite and he might still be…
      I always loved it when Prince Rakeem grabbed the mic… I thought it didn’t happen too often, so I always loved to hear his unorthodox sharp style

      I’m talkin Tearz, i’m talkin Snakes on ODB’s album, i’m talkin Wu-Gambinos on Rae’s album, i’m talkin 4th Chamber on GZA’s album, i’m talkin Assassination Day on GFK’s album, i’m talkin It’s Yourz… etc

  3. BullsFan4Life29

    Raekwon is always dropping knowledge. He’s absolutely correct in stating that the Wu-Tang Clan can’t make an album if they’re not in harmony with one another and if there’s tension simmering in the group. They need to get all that tension ironed out, so they can drop the album, because Hip-Hop needs that new Wu-Tang album.

  4. AlbertoRipRon

    Whenever you dudes get it right and get it popping, I will have cash in hand to cop that album, most def. Got love for all them dudes.

  5. Pig Destroyer

    Simple, RZA ain’t trying to pay RAE what he wants, Im sure hes paying or wants to pay him the same as he would U God, and it dont work like that. Rza does not enjoy paying anyone btw thats the hold up. He knows he cant pay him scraps like U God, Cappa or even Deck maybe.

  6. 9enTerActiVe

    The breakdown of a song is as follows…

    1. Half of a song is WORDS (50%), the other half is MUSIC (50%).

    The producer then is AUTOMATICALLY entitled to 50% (unless there is some sort of side sh*t goin’ on.)

    2. The Hook/Chorus is 50% of the words component.”ie; 25% of ENTIRE song”. So whomever makes the Hook/Chorus is gonna get that (unless there is some sort of side sh*t goin’ on.)

    3. The verses are the other 50% of the words component. “ie; 25% of ENTIRE song”. If there is more than 1 person with a verse on the song, that 25% of the ENTIRE song would be split evenly between the verse writers (unless there is some sort of side sh*t goin’ on.)

    When dealing in the industry, it is COMMONPLACE for (some sort of side sh*t goin’ on.) The lesson is to KNOW the rules. KNOW your worth. Be on TOP of your BUSINESS or else… ( there is gonna be some sort of side sh*t goin’ on.)

    9enTerActiVe .com

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