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Trials of TQ: The Cash Money Story

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:00 AM | 65 comments
By TQ

I think it was ‘99... The Lakers are in the playoffs. I could give a f**k about anything but Purple and Gold right now. I just got a funky a** TV, and I'm stuck on the 405 in traffic trying to get home and puff me one.

The first quarter just ended, and I'm watching it in my car. Ni**as is blowing up my phone like it's Christmas... "Dawg are you listening to the radio?" I'm like, “No ni**a I'm watching' the Lakers! Why the f**k aren't you?”

My homie tells me that “Them Cash Money ni**as are up at the station calling you out!” Calling me out? I thought it was some beef, but who the hell is Cash Money? "Anyway, hit me after the game pimp…"

That’s when I get a two-way from my dawg Julio G. He’s like, “Man if you around you need to come to the station. These N.O. cats Baby and Slim wanna meet you.”

Now this is the West Coast. Outside of Outkast and Master P, the South wasn’t bustin’ a grape out here at the time. Now don’t get me wrong, I love South music, just not as much as I loved Shaq and Kobe. Julio is an OG though. Plus he knows the game. If this ni**a texts me and says that I need to link with somebody, I’m doing it. So I did it…I turned around and went back to Hollywood to meet Baby and Slim at their hotel…

This could be a sign…

Yeah it was…The f**kin’ Lakers lost. Punk a** LAPD gives me a ticket for tinted windows. The valet at the hotel pulls all up on the curb, and all I hear is my Anterras scraping the concrete. When the Birdman pulls up, I’m outside cussing out the whole staff at the Mondrian…Dude got a kick outta that. Him and ol’ Rusty persuade me to chill out, and we walk into the lobby. I’m still beefy tho…

Baby and Slim pull me over to a corner and we talk music. They tell me how I’m hot like fire in New Orleans, and I need to get down there and promote. Baby says and I quote, “Lil Daddy, you my favorite artist! That ‘Bye Bye Baby’ sh*t is way too gangsta for R&B… Can you rap?” I’m like, “Homie, I can’t even wrap a gift!”

They tell me that they listen to my album so much that the CD warps, and they have to get a new one in every city. I’m watching how all their crew is giving me nods as they walk by. "These ni**as really feelin’ ya boy"… I’m kinda surprised. Baby tells me that they are about to start shooting their first movie and they want me on the soundtrack. I’m with it! We all exchange numbers and I bounce… But not before I give that hotel a bill for my f**king rim…

Over the next couple of weeks, me and dude communicate a lot. Baby is a real Laker hater, so we had reason to talk a bunch of sh*t. We always had a little rivalry goin' on from the beginning and that got us off to a good start. Before long I was going out on the road with them, doing shows, and helping them shut down malls across the US.

Then we finally got in the studio… That’s when sh*t really got deep…

I did a joint for them on the Baller Blockin soundtrack and I wouldn’t charge them. I’m old school dawg. I believe in the barter system. Let’s just say you owe me big homie… What else you got? What did I tell him that for? For the next two weeks, we did song after song after song. Juvenile, BG, Turk, Hot Boys, Big Tymers, you name it… almost. Seems he was keeping this one little pitbull in his back pocket and wasn’t letting him out. I think it's time to pull one of those favors…

I was just getting ready to start my second album. The Black Suits were calling in everybody - Pharrell, Ja Rule, Warren G, Bone Thugs, E-40, Destiny’s Child, Ghostface and Capadonna, etc… I had my eyes and ears set on one cat… Baby assured me that I wasn’t putting out another album without him on it, so when he came to NY to do the joint, I popped the question. “Can I get Lil Weezy on this album?” The ni**a hesitated, but he couldn’t say no. He owed me. We flew to New Orleans and went to the lab.

Now we all know Baby is a showman. Never more than this particular night though. He always looked at his crew as an army. To watch them all in the studio, you’d call them the same, but to watch Lil Wayne do his thang, you knew this was Baby’s ace in the hole. Now I had hung with all the Hot Boys in the city on separate occasions for fun. Me and Juve would tear down the city when I was there. Me and BG would tear down the projects. Me and my ni**a lil Turk would beef 'cause I smoked too much weed, lol…

Wayne was just a kid, and I wasn’t going to hang out at the high school, ya dig? The only time the whole crew was together was when we were working. I guess that should've been a red flag.

It wasn’t. This lil ni**a came in the studio and listened to my record one time down while performing to himself in the mirror. He said to Baby, ”I’m ready." He didn’t write sh*t down. He went in the studio and killed it with one take. My mouth dropped. Wayne came out the booth, listened, waited for Baby’s approval, waited for mine, and asked for a copy.

I was shocked. I watched the lil’ dude leave out and hop in his yellow SLK. He had a chick in the car! The ni**a left it running!! I was done. Baby was cracking his side looking at my expression. That ni**a Wayne had a gift. I knew it and so did Baby…

What I didn’t know was that Slim had been calling Sony trying to buy me out of my deal. “Giant” wanted me as an artist at all cost, but Sony was making money off me, and they weren’t trying to hear it. Meanwhile, my sales down South had doubled, and we had the Birdman to thank for that. It got to the point where I would come out in the middle of their show to do my song just 'cause Baby wanted to hear it!

Word got back to Sony and they started to panic. They informed Slim that he’d be sued for tampering if he kept it up. So we had to come up with another plan. We met and he told me what was up. He told me that if I could get myself out of that deal, he had a much better one on the table… I’m saying to myself, “Is that possible?” I mean, regardless of the situation, I did have a helluva deal with Sony. I wasn’t selling that many records, but I was making a whole lotta cake… How could he beat that?

Anyway, I listened like a dumba** and set about getting myself out of my deal… Plan B was in full effect.

Little did I know that there was chaos in the CMR camp. The Hot Boys felt like their money was a little funny. Juve was the hottest ni**a on the planet, everybody wanted him on their record, and Baby refused. Seems the Birdman was Bird feedin’ ni**as, but they kept recruiting for him! Every time I talked to Juve, Doogie, or Turk, they would sweat me about signing to Cash Money.

See these ni**as had love for Baby and Slim. Family type love. He should've done whatever to keep them boys happy. They would've rode for him 'til the wheels fell off, but greed is a muthaf**ka. Greed is why we can never get ahead. There was more than enough to go around, but ni**as f**ked it all up.

What can you do with 50 whips? You spend most of your time on the road! When you get home, them sh*ts don’t even start! What’s the difference between an S Class and a Maybach? The 200 stacks that you can use buying Chevys for all your homies…

Do u really need another $100,000 chain when you have two at home in the safe already? F**k No! I’d use that bread for more rooms on the road so my 70 ni**as ain’t gotta pile up six or eight to a room. Or maybe I could put it in my ni**as pockets so they ain’t gotta hit the block when we come home… Sh*t, it’s a whole lotta sh*t that ni**as can do with extra money. Ask Master P…

Anyway, I flexed on Sony. I’m a G with the paperwork. I got myself outta that deal and made them pay me for it. I got into negotiations with Cash Money, and I figured that it would take a while. See, my lawyer had got his hands on a copy of Juve’s contract just to see what we were up against. It was some bullsh*t! A slave deal with a million holes in it. He made sure mine had two million. He said, “T, I do not advise you to do a deal with these cats, but since you’re gonna do it anyway, I want to make sure that it’s easy to get out of. It’s gonna take some time…” It took eight months.

In the meantime, just to keep sh*t rolling, my lawyer got me a song deal with his father, Mr. Clive Davis at Arista. Soon after they wrote me a check, Mr. Davis left the company, and I was free and clear after turning in a couple of pop joints for LFO, N-Sync, and the UK supergroup, Anotha Level. Now that’s gangsta!

I was still young. My lawyer knew that I was gonna jump at them Cash Money dollars, so he made it unnecessary. I wasn’t trippin’. When the deal gets done, I’ll be ready for work. He got it done right before Christmas… Ho, Ho, Ho muthaf**kas!

The next call I got was from Baby. “It’s your turn, Homie!” “I need you by my side dawg!” I packed up my sh*t and bounced to New Orleans. Baby’s sister Kim picked me up from the airport. She had a bunch of keys and some bread for me. The most important thing she had for me was advice on how to deal with her little brother. See me and Kim was cool from the beginning. That’s my dawg! She was a real TQ fan, and I love her for that. She informed me that they called her brother “Baby” for obvious reasons and to always remember that. I did… It didn’t matter though.

I’m a man. I’m always gonna be at least that. I had a career before I met CMR, and they was gonna respect that if nothing else. I stood up to Baby. He’d talk crazy to me, and I’d talk crazy back. He respected that and still does. I had my own sh*t. Whenever he’d get to trippin’, I’d be quick to say, “Man f**k you!” and leave Yokohama tracks in his driveway.

N.O. was just like Compton. I could go anywhere by myself and it was love - pretty much. I wasn’t going to the Callio alone pimp… call me what you want! LOL! As long as I was at the studio or on the bus when I was supposed to be there, we’d laugh it off and split a bottle of Cris’…

But where was everybody else? Where the f**k is BG? Nile? Turk? The ni**as that were responsible for me being here were not here. That I didn’t understand… Then Baby told me about his “expansion” plan. He was making deals for a Cash Money West headed by Mack 10. He was gonna sign Gillie the Kid outta Philly, and Boo and Gotti, Mikkey, and Strings from Chicago. Sounded great to me! Especially the Mack 10 part… 

My one question remained. Where the f**k are the Hot Boys? I finally found out…

And next week you will too…

Stay tuned for the next installment “Break Up to Make Up." This should be interesting.

Check out TQ’s new album Paradise featuring Krayzie Bone, BG, Jagged Edge, Static Major and more in stores and on iTunes now! www.myspace.com/tqofficialsite



Comments

 

Knowldge Build Allah said:

Good Story!  
May 13, 2008 9:34 AM
 

Exec-Producer said:

First up!  

Man, that's something else.  After associating with different people in the game, we hear A LOT about those CMR cats.  I hope they're doing better now.  

Well TQ if you're reading any of these comments(which I doubt but it's worth a try), my company and I are in negotiations with 2 majors.  I'm still trying to see if this is even a good thing.  I'm the CEO/Executive Producer and I'm very much a paperwork man, so we'll see how this whole thing turns out.  With that said, would you be interested in working together?  Let's make some money if you are.  Let me know.  Hit us on myspace. One!

www.myspace.com/choiceizyours
May 13, 2008 9:48 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

Yeh, phat story, TQ allday. I always wanted to know bout Him in the Cash Money era. Good look. Im'a big fan since TNSMC got all the joints since, apart from Paradise... which I will cop
May 13, 2008 9:52 AM
 

ipoppedoff said:

Dope read. I'm with it all the way. Can't wait to hear next week.

100.

May 13, 2008 9:58 AM
 

mu$h da great said:

not 1 maybach ..... 10 lacs comin through

ima have to catch the next installment that shit was interesting.
May 13, 2008 9:58 AM
 

mu$h da great said:

not 1 maybach ..... 10 lacs comin through

ima have to catch the next installment that shit was interesting.
May 13, 2008 9:58 AM
 

LXA said:


Nice writing, that was interesting!
May 13, 2008 10:12 AM
 

captaincornball said:

Damn, leavin us with them cliff hangers. Can't wait til the next installment.
May 13, 2008 10:31 AM
 

Jdub1911 said:

I've always been a big Cash Money fan especially the Hot Boy$ but I really feel that Baby is the primary reason that they're not together. If you're a true Hot Boy fan you all know that they were not beefing at all. Juve, Lil' Doogie (B.G.) and Turk were all upset at Baby not Wayne. So any so called fans who tried to drive them against Wayne are haters. Lil' Wayne is my favorite Hot Boy and has been since I heard "Block Burner" from "Get It How You Live" back in 1997 but I love all of their flows equally. They were all unique and brought a different flava to each track.

T.Q. is right, money is the root of all evil. As much as I love Wayne's success, (which I predicted back in 1998) I much rather see him shine with the Hot Boy$ all together instead of individually.

And for anyone who claims Weezy stole Gilly style, T.Q. kills that claim when he describes how Wayne recorded a track in one take while leaving his car running outside. And this all occured before Gilly signed with CMR.

Haters just face it, other artist really respect this dudes ability. If he was so whack like some people think he is (which is obviously untrue), he wouldn't be dropping 16's on everbody's ish.

But I digress, I'm not mad at Baby for fucking CMR up because we all make mistakes but he does need to realize what he had and make ammends. Give Juve, Gizzal, Turk and Mannie what the want, need and deserve!

Cash Money is Army................Better yet a Navy!!!!!
May 13, 2008 10:51 AM
 

still ill said:

@ Water Ur seeds

chill out hommie only a joke.  
May 13, 2008 10:53 AM
 

KJDUBB said:

TQ is a cool cat man. He from Bama just like me (even though he doesn't ever mention it) but I still show him some love.
May 13, 2008 11:02 AM
 

risky $mith said:

T.Q is seriously a talented cat. He like a gangster Baby Face. This article was dope, I heard rumor TQ signed to Cash but then ....poof....never heard a word again. Look fwrd to the pt 2 of this read.
May 13, 2008 11:07 AM
 

allparish12 said:

Man, i think this was a nice article..he didnt come out bashing them cats like a lotta other bitter artists do when the deal dont work out..he kept it real, and stated the facts..cant wait for part 2!
May 13, 2008 11:12 AM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

Another good read. I'll check back next week.
May 13, 2008 11:30 AM
 

DAREALGUNSMOKE said:

GOOD READING
May 13, 2008 12:48 PM
 

Cuttathegreat said:

Damn another good read...I gotta be honest I look forward to these stories. Especially because I'm from New Orleans so everything sounds totally true. It's no secret about what was going on at Cash Money...Can't wait for the next one!
May 13, 2008 12:48 PM
 

doeboi5000 said:

this stuff is interesting...
May 13, 2008 12:59 PM
 

kolorbl9d said:

Usually I rather see the movie then read the book, but this was cool. I'ma check the rest out next week.
May 13, 2008 1:29 PM
 

Ron said:

Man, this fool done reeled us in.  We are actually waiting til next week like it's a sitcom.  This cat has some good writing.  He should make this into a tv movie or something.  Hey T.Q. if you DO decide to do that, I want my piece of the cake from that deal, cause that was MY idea. ha..ha..ha
May 13, 2008 2:36 PM
 

Trials of TQ: The Cash Money Story - RRT - Real Rap Talk said:

May 13, 2008 3:15 PM
 

Young Caine said:

@ Mush What u know bout Dat Slim shit??

AHH spoon feedin niggas n shit. Can't wait for the next installment tho...
May 13, 2008 5:07 PM
 

H Deezy said:

Interesting & informative story fam. Good to see you had good people like your lawyer and Baby's sister to look out for you. Still think you should of seen the signs before signing with them dudes, especially since you was making plenty bread without them but we all make mistakes. I wish you the best in your current endeavors and can't wait to read the rest next week.
May 13, 2008 5:48 PM
 

n!gga i can read! said:

AYE THIS IS A DAMN GOOD READ I'LL BE LOOKIN OUT FOR IT  NEXT WEEK
May 13, 2008 6:33 PM
 

MizzNaeChail said:

Best story I've read on anything like this in a WHILE.

I'm from a town a couple hours away from NO so I've always been a CMR fan, and I always thought Wayne was gonna be crazy, you know? But it broke my heart when THB broke up.  mean, me and some of my friends were crying. If you're from this area you listened to them like you read your Bible. We felt like we knew them. Shit, I even remember the days when they used to play a lil club we had called "Strawberries" and they'd have concerts on the teen nights even, and were the only acts that did so, and we always went out and showed them much love. They even would go eat next door at Montana's with some of the fans!! I mean I was REALLY hurt when they broke up!

Til I heard why...

Everyone makes mistakes. Baby needs to recognize his and give those boys what he owes them. From what I heard from my NO ppl, there's not much bad blood amongst any of them-cept Baby! And I think if he would quit being proud and make amends, then I could REALLY see a THB reunion tour. Maybe even another album.

I remember when they were messin with TQ. I was all excited, because even as young as I was, I thought he was so fine, LOL! And I loved his music. Hate to see that he got there when all the dirt was being done.
May 13, 2008 7:08 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Yet another good read from the homey. That was some game on the real.
May 13, 2008 8:04 PM
 

UPTownPrince said:

Damn ever since the first article I seem to keep looking out for the next one's LOL. Dude has alot of informative info and on top of that dude is a lot smarter than yor average artist
(was @ the time). TQ keep pushin Big homie glad to see that you didn't go into that so called artist grave yard.
May 14, 2008 5:27 AM
 

UPTownPrince said:

Jdub1911 said:  "And for anyone who claims Weezy stole Gilly style, T.Q. kills that claim when he describes how Wayne recorded a track in one take while leaving his car running outside. And this all occured before Gilly signed with CMR."


Explain to me how TQ kills the actual claim that Wayne Stole Gilly's stye? The whole thing he said was Wayne came in Killed in one take and left. That doesn't tell me anything, Any CM/HB fan can tell the difference in Wayne's style Pre Gilly & Post Gilly

You can tell Wayne switched his whole style and flow up.
I'm not trying to take anything from the dude but IMO he bit alot of this new flow he has gotten over the last couple years from Gilly if you ask me.
May 14, 2008 5:36 AM
 

Im_African said:

I like the story it was a good read but..... Does anyone else feel like TQ is exaggerating some of this shit. Who goes in a studio to record a 16 not having heard the beat or song concept and leaves the car running?? And if he did leave it running he must of lost hella gas but in 99 I guess it wasnt that bad!
May 14, 2008 1:17 PM
 

Syndrical said:

Good read
Can't wait til next week
Strings from the Chi .. is that the chick that had one song out back in the day that Swizz produced?
'Raise It Up' I think it was called
May 14, 2008 2:30 PM
 

Quiseebaby said:

This nigga should write a book! LOL! This nigga story kinda interesting.
May 14, 2008 4:13 PM
 

King Eljay said:

Wow.... funny story, I saw TQ on here and a was like "WTF....STFDown with that...."

Than i read it. This is some interesting stuff homie.

Im waitin for the next one.

And u a laker fan.... I was a kings dude back then homie. We shoulda got y'all...
May 15, 2008 3:32 AM
 

adopefemalemc said:

Dammmmmn, my brain is crazy, I was just thinkin bout "What ever happened to TQ w/ Cash Money earlier today" and this comes out..Eerie..Well, I'm all ears, I'll b here next week.  Also, if u thought this was a good read, u GOTTA check out C-Murder's book 'Death Around the Corner.' I'm from the Bay and I could feel the spirit of New Orleans readin that book.. check it out! And check out my music while u at it!!:
http://www.myspace.com/keyannabean
May 15, 2008 5:46 AM
 

thevision said:

Extremly interesting. Its weird to read such an indepth view of something people have been speculating on for years. Good job and Im very pleased with your work. Do your thing champ. Ill be readin'
May 15, 2008 8:45 AM
 

Smashit said:

Good story and it's believable because TQ is not bad mouthing nobody and showing no hate - he's just giving it real
May 15, 2008 9:40 AM
 

Haughville said:

TQ, solid read my guy...........
looking forward to the next installment lil' rowdie.....
May 15, 2008 10:01 AM
 

East Gang 504 said:

Dont feel bad TQ i dont go to the 3rd ward with nothing less than a platoon with me and I grew up with most of them niggas. ( RIP St. Monica)
May 15, 2008 10:01 AM
 

TonyMalibu said:

The said thing is that I was always a CMR fan from the beginning.  The thing that drew me to them the most was the "sense of family" they seemed to have in the beginning.  Obviously, I wasn't imagining things...TQ confirmed it.  

Interesting read...especially the part about Lil' Wayne ripping it in one take!  I never knew dude had that kinda talent...Juvenile (who has the most star quality) was always my favorite Hot Boy, then BG (who has the most street quality).  And Mannie Fresh quickly became one of my favorite producers.

Anyway, I'll be checking for the next installment for sure!  
May 15, 2008 10:31 AM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

TQ MAKES HELLA SENSE
WAYNE HIT THE STUDIO WIT THE CLK STILL RUNNIN OUTSIDE
DAYUM THAS SKILLS

WWW.MYSPACE.COM/THAGRINDAHOLIC
KEEPIN IT GHETTO
May 15, 2008 12:01 PM
 

googiemike707 said:

TQ 1st CD is STILL the shit! much luv homie. "Westside"
May 15, 2008 1:36 PM
 

HTyson said:

I love this shit! Hearing the straight dope directly from tha artists themselves! Thats what up AHH! you just made up for that wack ass 26 days interview!
May 15, 2008 2:14 PM
 

bornnraisedCMR said:

That was a very interesting read. Good to hear a good non biased story about what was really going on back in the day with CMR.

But he stated what was obvious to me all along, Baby was the cancer in Cash Money. If it wasnt Wayne CMR would be just like Ruff Ryders and Death Row right now. So I guess Baby was smart for makin that nigga stick by him all these year.

What up TQ, I used to see you all the time down her in the N.O. back in the day fool. I remember you was riding in that red Hummer fuckin with them hoez on Canal St. pimp.

Keep the stories coming homie.

Sidenote:  Baby's sister Kim, is that the one that died recently?
May 15, 2008 2:30 PM
 

GamezPOG said:

Nice interview.... gotta make sure your paperwork is up to par...regardless!!

Hedonis da Amazon
www.myspace.com/hedonisdaamazon
May 15, 2008 2:57 PM
 

bknewstash said:

gilly who? One take weezy since a youngin'.......
May 15, 2008 4:25 PM
 

WILLY KILLEM? said:

WOW.
May 15, 2008 4:34 PM
 

Lord Hade said:

Never been a CMR fan....NEVER!!!  
But this was a good and somewhat informative story.  I still can't give lil wayne alot of credit as a lyricist though, I just can't do it!!!!
May 15, 2008 5:00 PM
 

ExtendedKicks said:

LMAO  at wayne leaving the benz running WITH a bitch riding shotgun. Good read.
May 15, 2008 5:22 PM
 

Young Havok said:

I always wondered what happened to this nigga when he was riding with Cash Money. I mean I remember seeing him in that one Lil Wayne Video off of 500 Degreez and shit but nothing else. That of course was at the time I stopped really fucking with them niggas. I mean 500 Degreez was lame compared to Tha Block Is Hot.

And I always knew Wayne was going to be best out of them niggas. Anyone here hear that one track off of Turks album Yes We Do? Wayne killed that shit. He was always my favorite.
May 15, 2008 6:05 PM
 

Jon J said:

Why do people keep saying he jacked Gillie's style? Wayne is on top and has been for years now! If Gillie is all that to be jackin then why is he not signed to a major deal? Have a major album? Recognized by people outside the east coast? Only way i know him is from ahh and you tube hatin' on Wayne! Go get a career and some money then talk and Wayne hater can support him. Look for the Wayne's Carter 3 album...in stores this summer! Look for Gillie's new album... in trunks and on street corners this summer!


May 15, 2008 6:16 PM
 

Hood2Burbs said:

@ Jdub1911

It's like my man said. Wayne recording that verse in one take has nothing to do with him biting Gillie's style. You might be making a good point, but not the way you said it. Maybe if we were talking about him stealing Jay's flow, but then again he did...but it doesnt matter because everybody's knows that Wayne loved Jay at one point more than he loved Baby.

Anyway, personally, Wayne went from one of the most promising emcees to an oversaturated pop artist. And the key difference in him now vs. The Carter era??? "Go D.J.". That's right. Mannie.  He had his own sound at one point, but now he cries over tracks using a voicebox and calls it a delivery. It's not hate. It's real. If you like it you like it. It's nothing wrong with that. But '08 Wayne is nowhere near '04 Wayne.
May 15, 2008 8:00 PM
 

Hood2Burbs said:

@ Jon J

The industry is about image. If you sit up there and say everybody that deserves a deal has one, there is no point in having a conversation on music with you. But I don't really think Gillie has the much star power anyway. He's nice, but who isn't? Wayne at his best is smashing Gillie at his. The only problem is we havent seen Wayne at his best since the "Show Me What You Got" Freestyle
May 15, 2008 8:04 PM
 

arana roja said:

Wayne was the shit waaay before Gillie was with Cash Money!! The nigga was a fuckin KID wreckin shop. I was there in 1999 when he came and did a verse for Nelly's first album and he ripped that shit in one take! He may have been influenced by Gillie (or any of the thousand niggas he's been around) but Gillie ain't nowhere near this nigga's level. PERIOD
May 15, 2008 11:45 PM
 

RedDeezo said:

that shit is cold as hell....lol. Real interesting i can't lie dawg
May 16, 2008 1:06 AM
 

Mr. Wrecc said:

Peace

Yo the story was dope to read. I was wondering when the next installment would hit. That first TQ record was dope for sure.  Lookin forward to tha next installment.
May 16, 2008 3:12 AM
 

city414 said:

"Seems the Birdman was Bird feedin’ ni**as"

chirp chirp
May 16, 2008 1:12 PM
 

city414 said:

some crazy quotes of the article

-Him and ol’ Rusty persuade me to chill out

-They tell me that they listen to my album so much that the CD warps, and they have to get a new one in every city.

-Juve was the hottest ni**a on the planet, everybody wanted him on their record, and Baby refused.


-What can you do with 50 whips? You spend most of your time on the road! When you get home, them sh*ts don’t even start

-my lawyer had got his hands on a copy of Juve’s contract just to see what we were up against. It was some bullsh*t! A slave deal with a million holes in it

..........
May 16, 2008 1:55 PM
 

Esq. of LastLeveL said:

Nice.
May 16, 2008 5:01 PM
 

jay_everyday said:

First off, let me say I appreciate that the dude can write coherently.
May 16, 2008 5:08 PM
 

Kalibur1200 said:

Good Article But it Was TOO SHORT (NO TOD SHAW)
May 16, 2008 7:06 PM
 

SDS Overfiend said:

Expertly wrote story. Laughing LMOA @ Lil Weezy not writing nothing though. If you don't know what happened after this then you been living under a rock. The CMR jerked alot of the Hotboys though on some bullshit. Too Bad Turk got locked up he was the best one if you ask me but that just IMO.
May 16, 2008 10:50 PM
 

Sovietnam said:

i dont know. i bought his first album. i liked it. It was different.

May 16, 2008 11:11 PM
 

J. Flizzle said:

i wanna hear mo mayne get to yalkin boutda money
May 18, 2008 10:27 AM
 

Moyo said:

I'm from Mississippi & I been listenin to CMR since '98, Damn this article just reminds me of how much I miss the hot boys. Their last cd guerilla warfare came out in late '99 right before the start of my senior year in high school(99-2000) & was the soundtrack for that fall semester. Them niggaz was tight, they couldhave been one of the greatest groups of all time if it wasn't 4 baby. TQ did tha damn thang with this article. Very informative, I always liked tq. I remmeber his 1st song "Westside", and he had a song "come see me"  from the Trippin' soundtrack that was tight. By the time he was on CMR I wasn't fuckin wit' em no more because of the Hot Boys leavin', but the nigga been tight. I always wondered about what happened with him and Cash Money, guess we'll find out next week. O yeah I thught the Hot Boys had a reunion not 2 long ago??? If so that cd should be Fire!!! Chuuch. M.O.B.
May 18, 2008 1:44 PM
 

Karisma said:

I'm happy he is talking like man that controls his own actions and not like a victim. TQ is very talented and I thank all Hip Hop for allowing him to write. I can't wait for part 2. I always knew it was Baby causing all the drama within his own camp it's just sad that juve, and the rest of the HOT BOYZ lost friendships and money over it. Money will do that though right?
May 21, 2008 2:55 PM
 

Jdub1911 said:

Hood2Burbs said:
@ Jdub1911

It's like my man said. Wayne recording that verse in one take has nothing to do with him biting Gillie's style. You might be making a good point, but not the way you said it. Maybe if we were talking about him stealing Jay's flow, but then again he did...but it doesnt matter because everybody's knows that Wayne loved Jay at one point more than he loved Baby.

Anyway, personally, Wayne went from one of the most promising emcees to an oversaturated pop artist. And the key difference in him now vs. The Carter era??? "Go D.J.". That's right. Mannie.  He had his own sound at one point, but now he cries over tracks using a voicebox and calls it a delivery. It's not hate. It's real. If you like it you like it. It's nothing wrong with that. But '08 Wayne is nowhere near '04 Wayne.
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My point was errr'body need to get off Wayne stealing Gillie style PERIOD POINT BLANK. Come on be real. Did he look up to Jay............yes. Did he emulate some of style from Jay..........yes. But just like Jay said in XXL interview a couple months back that you really can't single Wayne out because if thats the case a lot of rappers in the game has borrowed his style. But people only knock Wayne for that because he has so many more haters than other rappers in my opinion. Nobody criticizes T.I. and he certainly has some jay in his style as well as Kanye and a list of other rappers. And I listen to both of those rappers.

Why when a rapper is demand he is consider oversaturated? So if you were offered 75k-100k a 16 would you not make that money especially if you enjoyed the competition of making music. I admit his sound has change excuse me evolved to where he is now. Did you criticize Jay from rapping like Bone Thugs to how he flows now. Probably not. But because Wayne is so cocky and claims to be the best, people to offense like he's cursing out their mothers. Here again, if he's peers thought he was wack, believe me, they wouldn't have him feature on their records.

@ Uptown Prince

Here again, his flow has evolved and gotten better lyrically. R u listening to what he's saying or how he sounds. Come on bruh, it would be one thing if there was a claim that someone was ghostwriting for him but people tripping because they say he stole Gilly, OF ALL PEOPLE, flow. Whatever. If you're a true fan and I'm talking bout pre "Guerilla Warfare" you'll know that Wayne was the one in the Hot Boys that was always animated and brought it lyrically escpecially for his age, 14-15. Rapping is just like a hooping. If you're a student of the game you take bits and pieces of peoples game that you admire and incorporate in to your game. All this Wayne shit started becaue back in '03 he at the end of "Bring it Back" he said...."the best rapper alive, since the best rapper (JAY-Z) retired." This is when all the hate begin. Check the article on B.G. in last months XXL, where the reporter ask about Wayne and he said Wayne has always had talent and He's not supprised at all with his current success. Listen to his song "Ode to Hot Boys" and see what I'm saying.
May 22, 2008 2:04 PM
 

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