Ice-T vs Soulja Boy: What Does It Really Mean? 
Published Saturday, June 21, 2008 12:20 PM
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    By Illseed

    When Ice-T called out Soulja Boy, I knew it was going to quickly spiral and degrade into something completely unproductive for Hip-Hop. So let us examine briefly and then engage in some productive dialogue.


    Earlier in the week, 50-year-old Ice-T boldly released a viral video where he said, “F**k Soulja Boy! Eat a d**k!” The words were in part promotion for a new mixtape with DJ Cisco, but the words rang true for many in Hip-Hop – older and younger.


    Between the lines:


    “This n***a single handedly killed Hip Hop. That s**t is such garbage man. We came all the way from Rakim, we came all the way from Das EFX, we came all the way from mother f***ers flowing like Big Daddy Kane and Ice Cube, and you come with that Superman shit? That s**t is garbage.”



    See the video below:




    Here are some things that Ice-T neglected to mention.


    -Back in the days, there were scores of “garbage” rap artists and knock-offs. These acts ranged from Run DMC rip offs to MC Hammer splinter acts. Garbage is a long-standing tradition in Hip-Hop as with most art forms.


    -The Sugar Hill Gang rapped about Superman in 1979 and frankly their lyrics were quite “corny” too, but the song remains one timeless gem. Also remember, the lyrics from the song were stolen from the well-respected Grandmaster Caz of the Cold Crush Brothers by S.H.G. member “Big Bank” Hank.


    -An old head and successful producer named Mr. Collipark (aka DJ Smurf) is the man that really brought Soulja Boy to the masses when he signed him. Collipark has also had a hand in the success of Hurricane Chris (who Ice-T name checked) and other similar artists.


    Then came 17-year-old Soulja Boy, with revenge in his eyes and a pocket full of disrespectful jokes.


    See the video of Soulja Boy exacting his vengeance on his elder:



    Here are the comments that most people are paying attention to:


    "This n***a Ice T old as f--k, this n***a old enough to be my grandfather, he's the forefather of my nuts...we wikipedia'd this n***a and this n***a was born in 1958.”


    “Real talk this ain't no beef, n***a. Hit me, n***a, and your arm gonna break. Real talk, I’ll let you fight my grand daddy, dog.”


    Like the Ice-T part about S.B. “killing Hip-Hop,” Here is what I got from Soulja Boy:


    “You was wrong for that. Think about it in my shoes. This time last year I was poor as f**k. I was in the hood, I was in the ghetto. If what you [were] living is true, you would understand where I’m coming from…I’m 17 years old, I worked hard for this s**t. Even if I got all this off one song, you should be congratulating me. Real talk, you should be telling me congratulations young brother, get your money. That’s what you should be saying, instead of 'eat a d**k.'”


    Emotions and communication.


    For all of their ability to put words together, rappers have yet to effectively communicate with each other. The root of this matter is these are two Hip-Hoppers from two very different eras. Ice-T was correct. Soulja Boy doesn’t come close to the artists he mentioned from a lyrical perspective. Yet, the kid is 17 years old and really, these days, Hip-Hop teens aren’t as engaged in the same ways that they were back in the days. The 80’s and part of the 90’s yielded a certain consciousness. Did Soulja Boy kill Hip-Hop? No.


    Does Ice-T’s age really matter? Have you seen the 47-year-old rapper? (Click here for that!) What about a live Public Enemy show for rappers Chuck D and Flavor Flav, aged 47 and 49 respectively. They have a show Soulja Boy can’t compare to even with the cute dance. African Americans and Hip-Hop heads always want to limit an artist’s growth and tell him when to stop. The Rolling Stones, The Red Hot Chilli Peppers and other rockers are antiques and relics and yet they fill stadiums to this day, cherished by their fan base.


    The older generation can’t forget where they came from. Ice-T was in a video for a rapper named Joe Ski Love, who made a song called “The Pee Wee Herman.” In hindsight, it was fairly “corny” and campy – and we love it. He was also in a wack movie called “Breakin.’” We love it, Turbo and Ozone. When it’s all said and done, we’ll look back on “Crank Dat” with some affection too.


    The younger nation has to remember, they will need the wisdom of older heads to maximize their own growth. Ice-T has seen it all, been through it all and has insight on the music game that a Soulja Boy can’t pay for. From the early days, to the life experience to the censorship matters, he’s actually paved the way for these younger rappers.


    We can’t make the same mistakes as the “Civil Rights” age group and create an irreparable gap. Let's respect each other. Fact is, Ice-T has no less than five classic albums (Solo and rock) and a TV and film resume to kill for. Admit it or not, Soulja Boy wants those accolades.


    That’s all have to say…now let’s talk about it.


    PS: For fun, here is the Joe Ski Love’s Pee Wee Herman video. Classic!



    Comments

     

    fonkyfreshwestcoast said:

    ice-t need to ease up.I cant stand that superman shit but let a lil nigga eat.people gonna bump garbage regardless cant be mad at dude for sellin it.if hip hop survived the pee wee herman, woop there it is and walk it out then the superman cant kill it.
    June 21, 2008 12:35 PM
     

    IkonRadio.com said:

    Good Job on this one Illseed.

    I think that Ice-T was reaching a lil' bit and I expected Soulja Boy to react the way he did.

    But as far as the age thing...Hip Hop is a fairly new genre. With rock, jazz, classical, blues, and other genres of music dating back 50+years at minimum, hip hop is still in its adolescent form as a genre. In saying that, those of us who grew up on the "old school" formula are constantly seeking substance in a record. The problem with that is those who provide (in my eyesight) quality substance are more seasoned veterans who are seeking retirement because of the new trends set and adored by younger fans. Now can a 47 year old rapper sell 2 million records in a market that is ruled by suburban teenage kids? He would have to already have a name and even then, it would be a very difficult task. The younger rappers can relate to the younger fans. I'm not a teenager so I don't relate to records that they relate to. But I did buy the latest Jay-Z, Talib, Common, etc.

    Let them have their lane.

    Rhythm and Blues has provided foreshadow of what is to come because of the age split. R&B has a thing going on we might as well get used to. When my mom says she listens to R&B, she's talking about Gerald Levert and guys of that nature. Not Omarion and Chris Brown. Two different markets. Normally a 46 year old woman isn't listening to the younger R&B fellows. As rappers and fans mature, they won't listen to content they would have previously. Rest assured though as younger fans listen, younger artists will provide them with their music.
    June 21, 2008 12:35 PM
     

    MAK™ said:

    LMAO!!!!!!!!! MAKES NO FRICKIN SENSE FOR GRAND DAD AND GRAND SON TO EXCHANGE WORDS... GRAND DAD SHOULD KNOW BETTER THO...

    http://www.myspace.com/crackproductions

    -MAK-
    June 21, 2008 12:38 PM
     

    MAK™ said:

    ICE T LOSES THIS ONE...

    http://www.marketamerica.com/tiamanya/

    -MAK-
    June 21, 2008 12:38 PM
     

    abgtypenigga504 said:

    get money keep shittin on them niggas
    June 21, 2008 12:44 PM
     

    coughdrop said:

    I mean i am no big fan of souljah boy but it speaks volumes to the way he handle himself compared to ice-t ice -t is too  old to engage in "corner"talk with a 18 year old kid .what we should do is make records and money together Hip Hop is the only music where it destroys itself and does not acknowledge there past,present and future.do you see usher and michael jackson beefing over bs? micheal jackson knows that usher is not on his level nor justin timberlake but he gives them a nod of respect  to say yeah i see you trying to be  me.   just make your money and do it right .hip hop needs to grow up in all aspects creatively .mentally,and emotionaly because the words of another old school head michael ray richardson "the ship be sinking"with all this disrespect going back and forth.
    June 21, 2008 12:46 PM
     

    MissDallasTx214 said:

    Thats wassup Illseed I dont think Ice T was right comin at the young cat the way he did, he is only 17 why did he have to be so harsh? I don't think Crank Dat Soulja Boy was meant for adults, my kids love that song and that's who listens to his music any dayum way. I agree with Soulja Boy, he is way too old for that shit and he should be ashamed for comin at a teen like that. If anything he should be attackin these grown ass men out here puttin out these corny ass songs!!! Soulja Boy didn't single handedly kill hip hop, all the wack ass corny songs that came out before he was even born did that!!!!
    June 21, 2008 12:47 PM
     

    ladyof70s said:

    Well I want to start off by saying Ice-T should be ashamed of hisself. Hip Hop is for everybody and me personally I have three young children who listens to soldier boy and to be honest I'd rather they listen to him instead of Ice-T. Hip hop has become a part of all our childrens lives and I think they should listen to songs that aren't all talking about sex, drugs, killing,etc.(Ice-T) I really think he shouldn't of made the comment he made because now I have lost respect for him as a person who grew up listening to his songs, watching him in movies and even now on Law & Order. I am glad there is something different for kids to listen to even some of these songs have been modified to be gospel songs. Can Ice-T modify any of his songs to fit a gospel genre?? Now I also want to say to Soulja Boy, I know he pissed you off but if you really respect someone the way to show your respect is to ignore ignorance when it comes your way. I hope you don't allow yourself to get caught up in a beef that shouldn't even exist. Show your maturity level by not responding to anymore comments because you know they are coming. No matter what, be something that kids(since they are the ones helping you get money)can look up to any say he did the right thing.
    June 21, 2008 12:47 PM
     

    coughdrop said:

    Man hip hop been around for almost 45 years now it aint "new" no more
    June 21, 2008 12:48 PM
     

    CamRon said:

    Ice-T shouldn't worry because eventually this style of Hip-Hop will die out.
    Just like the 80's and 90's Hip-Hop did.
    It'll be like this for a while though but people will start getting tired of Soulja Boy Music and all the dance club music and something different will become popular.
    Hell Soulja Boy might end up like Ice-T hiself.
    But the Hip-Hop Cycle will go on but for right now its gonna stay clubbish because thats all people do is go to clubs.
    You know that style won't last forever his fans will get old and actually start to have minds.
    Just hopefully people who have little babies will raise them to have respect for thereselves and other people.
    June 21, 2008 12:48 PM
     

    INGE&J said:

    well see it has always been weakness i feel both of their opinions
    June 21, 2008 12:50 PM
     

    Boss Up said:

    great article seed
    June 21, 2008 12:52 PM
     

    MissDallasTx214 said:

    lmao @ Ice T tellin Hurricane Chris to take them braids out his head, lol. I am @ work and that shit made me bust out laughing, lol......hold up, Soulja Boy made a point when he said "how u gone write a song talkin bout fuck the police and 20 yrs later you playin one on a show"??? lmao, that was a good one.
    June 21, 2008 12:56 PM
     

    Squareone1 said:

    Crank that has to be the most ignorant shit ever created, in a world when we're dealing with so many ill social issues, world issues and constant murdering of our youth, soljah boy is not a true representitive of any kind of hiphop, the dude is a pop artist trying to do rap.

    Ice-T, who I respect as a true OG in the game, I think is saying that during the golden era of rap (I say that would be from 88' - 95' before puffy almost killed the game with shiny suits), EMCEES (something soljah boy has no clue about) were spitting about concience shit that was relevant in their lifes and that was effective in building a culture up. If you say a 17  year can't make some real shit, just look at LL cool J who made quality shit, or Shyheim, the rugged child who made hard core hiphop music, so fuck what somebody's age is.

    Soljah boy, maybe not even his fault because D4L, and them laffy taffy ma'fuckas might've given this kid a idea, to just be as fucking ignorant with the music, grab a keyboard, get some protools and say they producing real music. I know it's just entertainment, but his influencing so many people (mostly kids) to get on you tube and just portray a abundance of self hate for millions to see, it's disturbing.

    It's not all soljah boy's fault to be singly handly blamed, but when you're in the front of the pack, that's the responsibility and heat a person like him has to take, either he can defend himself with a ignorant response (which maybe most of us might've made too) but he could had just picked up the phone and called Ice-T and been a bigger person than a 50 year old, instead he choose to be put himself out there and display himself in the same crude manner as when he pissed off the side of a hotel balcony. I'd tell this dude if I was to run across him in the streets is to grow the fuck up, and go to college.


    Peace
    June 21, 2008 1:02 PM
     

    HELLRAISER said:

    i hope this shit wont get past the trash talking because ice-t is OG status. even though soulja boy is annoying ill hate to see the dude get done up over some lame shit lol now that i think about it i havent heard people going at it with ice-t over some beef.
    June 21, 2008 1:04 PM
     

    SouthernThick said:

    Soulja Boy vs Ice-T..Please...Soulja Boy is fucking joke.  He need to get all the money that he can off of "superman"  and call it a day.  I can not believe the radio actually played "YAHHH."  The song was just stupid.  
    ICe-T is a Legend in the game...Soulja Boy will "just spit a sentence and the game forget his name."
    June 21, 2008 1:10 PM
     

    Rosco! said:

    “You was wrong for that. Think about it in my shoes. This time last year I was poor as f**k. I was in the hood, I was in the ghetto. If what you [were] living is true, you would understand where I’m coming from…I’m 17 years old, I worked hard for this s**t. Even if I got all this off one song, you should be congratulating me. Real talk, you should be telling me congratulations young brother, get your money. That’s what you should be saying, instead of 'eat a d**k.'”

    Tha smartest and most tru shit S. Beezy has ever said.
    June 21, 2008 1:11 PM
     

    Rosco! said:

    “You was wrong for that. Think about it in my shoes. This time last year I was poor as f**k. I was in the hood, I was in the ghetto. If what you [were] living is true, you would understand where I’m coming from…I’m 17 years old, I worked hard for this s**t. Even if I got all this off one song, you should be congratulating me. Real talk, you should be telling me congratulations young brother, get your money. That’s what you should be saying, instead of 'eat a d**k.'”

    Tha smartest and most tru shit S. Beezy has ever said. Ice-T juss tryna get a buzz for his album comin out....dat i dint even know existed until this beef got started. lmao.
    June 21, 2008 1:12 PM
     

    TX Made Marcuz said:

    ok i see yawl play'n favoritez.......hell yawl play'n this video of tha pee wee herman dance video..and thatz supposed to be hip hop....but soulja boy crank dat song aint hip hop?? .....shit dont make sense ppl been make'n dance songz since hip hop started......niggaz really need to know where their been be4 they talk bout tha new generation....honestly....Ice-T wuz talk'n out thazz when he came at a lil kid like soulja boy he killed hip hop wit crank dat but Ice-t in this Pee Wee Herman dance video fuck outta here mayne yawl really jus need to get off soulja boy's dick Trill Talk give tha lil nigga credit mayne

    http://www.myspace.com/bang_screw_4lyfe go add now!!!!!
    June 21, 2008 1:14 PM
     

    TX Made Marcuz said:

    ok i see yawl play'n favoritez.......hell yawl play'n this video of tha pee wee herman dance video..and thatz supposed to be hip hop....but soulja boy crank dat song aint hip hop?? .....shit dont make sense ppl been make'n dance songz since hip hop started......niggaz really need to know where their been be4 they talk bout tha new generation....honestly....Ice-T wuz talk'n out thazz when he came at a lil kid like soulja boy he killed hip hop wit crank dat but Ice-t in this Pee Wee Herman dance video fuck outta here mayne yawl really jus need to get off soulja boy's dick Trill Talk give tha lil nigga credit mayne

    http://www.myspace.com/bang_screw_4lyfe go add now!!!!!
    June 21, 2008 1:15 PM
     

    TX Made Marcuz said:

    ok i see yawl play'n favoritez.......hell yawl play'n this video of tha pee wee herman dance video..and thatz supposed to be hip hop....but soulja boy crank dat song aint hip hop?? .....shit dont make sense ppl been make'n dance songz since hip hop started......niggaz really need to know where their been be4 they talk bout tha new generation....honestly....Ice-T wuz talk'n out thazz when he came at a lil kid like soulja boy he killed hip hop wit crank dat but Ice-t in this Pee Wee Herman dance video fuck outta here mayne yawl really jus need to get off soulja boy's dick Trill Talk give tha lil nigga credit mayne

    http://www.myspace.com/bang_screw_4lyfe go add now!!!!!
    June 21, 2008 1:15 PM
     

    fiskballa24 said:

    Another irrevelant rapper trying to make some noise by hating on a hot artist.  Even if you don't like soulja boy, you gotta admit that he is one of the hottest rappers out there right now.  Especially if he got old niggas like ice-t coming out of retirement to hate on him
    June 21, 2008 1:17 PM
     

    DAREALGUNSMOKE said:

    1ST OF ALL! I HATE SOULJA BOY
    IN ACTUALITY IF ICE-T DROPPED A GREATEST HITS ALBUM TODAY AND SOULJA BOY RE-DID HIS ALBUM, IN THIS GENERATION HE WOULD OUT SELL ICE-T. ITS HORRIBLE TO SAY THAT BUT ITS REAL.
    ICE-T IS OUTTA LINE FOR CALLIN A YOUNGSTA OUT WHEN HE GOT A SON ABOUTTHE SAME AGE AS SOULJA BOY.
    SOULJA BOY IS OUTTA LINE FOR GOIN BACK AT ICE-T LIKE HE WANTS BEEF. THAT SHIT SHOWS HIS IMMATURITY!
    NOW BOTH OF EM ACTIN LIKE SOME KIDS!
    June 21, 2008 1:23 PM
     

    Shifty_UK said:

    ICE T should know better than to act like that. damn.
    June 21, 2008 1:30 PM
     

    Lexx Diirt said:

    We should jus change the name hip-hop music to club-dance music. the most talked about rappers are having their careers fueled by singles made for the club (lil wayne). but not just wayne and not just soulja boy.people confuse chris brown and usher with hip-hop artists. when u no longer can tell who is an RnB singer and whos a Hip-hop artist..we have a serious problem. the problem is that corporations choose to put out ONLY safe pop music. they cant take a risk on music that doesnt make u dance. they cant risk leaving it to the youth to actually listen and hear good sad hip-hop. good angry hip-hop. good emotional, meaningful, loaded hip-hop. music is MADE for kids now. It used to be made for urban culture. because the artists never expected to make the money. never expected young white girls to swoop it off the shelves. now that they know it happens, they make the music FOR them
    June 21, 2008 1:33 PM
     

    everybodyisasnitch said:

    Sometimes I forget I was young, full of cum and dumb. Because I thought that peewee song was fire at the time. I guess Ice T did too. Anyway big up to the artist I listen to....Jean Grae, Little Brother, Buck Shot & the whole Boot camp,MF Doom, Pumpkinhead, Nas, Jay Z, Mos def, Andre 3000, Gnarls Barkly aka Cee lo, M.O.P pick up that rock album they put out under the name Mash Out posse, Marco Polo album was great, O.C last album great & his first one is a classic, Common, and can't forget GHostface. Good music is still here, just that radio wont play alot of great artist.
    June 21, 2008 1:38 PM
     

    illseed said:

    the pee wee song IS fire hahahahaah....the thing is, thats what it was at that time. this is before PE and them swept the nation. And ice t cant front on that. ice t is an OG in the rap game, one of my favorite rappers -period. he made some of the most thought provoking music ever in rap history. but he was a grown man when he was rapping. Now, even when soulja boy is grown, he prob wont  be doing anything substantive because thats not his market. when ice was poppin i was a kid more or less. he made me think. rob base made me dance. same applied now, but there is less of that  "real" stuff and more just the frivious stuff. Ice just didnt quite get the point across...he has a point though.
    June 21, 2008 1:52 PM
     

    ImJamminScrew said:

    New Song about Ice-T hating On Soulja Boy!!  Funny!!


    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZnvbvBWtBEs
    June 21, 2008 2:00 PM
     

    CamRon said:

    Lexx Diirt you are right.Thats all Hip-Hop is,just music you dance to in a club it aint like the old Tupac Music people still bump years later after it came out.
    Chris Brown and Usher aint R&B artist they're POP artist but they got stuff so mixed up that we can't tell because its all dance music.It was better when Hip-Hop talked about real stuff instead of cummin on girls backs and putting a napkin on it.
    Also when R&B had soul in it and people made babies to it.
    Now they've all fused into one genre besides Country Music.
    Even artist like Britney Spears sound Hip-Hop and using the T-Pain voice and the same sounding beats.
    June 21, 2008 2:00 PM
     

    thefirm97 said:

    @  MissDallasTx214

    1st off the song was called cop killer and 2nd that joke already been said...he got that from wild n out
    June 21, 2008 2:02 PM
     

    music iz lif3 said:

    it waz never no beef to me ice t waz way out of line now he need to squah it n sit his old azz down
    June 21, 2008 2:10 PM
     

    MissDallasTx214 said:

    I know the name of the song, and who cares if the joke was recycled the shit was still funny so my question to you is wtf is your point, you aint told me shit I didn't already know......
    June 21, 2008 2:11 PM
     

    Savy Da Boss said:

    Let that lil nigga get his money!
    June 21, 2008 2:17 PM
     

    ANTI1 said:

    ice t has a point but it came across disrepectfully and soulja boy responded in typical fashion. The youth dont respect the old heads and vice versa thats just one aspect of this issue. todays youth also dont have much knowledge of the game and those who came before them, and thats another aspect. soula boy and mr. collipark are only out for the cash, much like most people in entertainment, but the difference they are willing to play themselves to get it. forget about target audience, they makin straight up coon music, period point blank. ya people was makin bs back in the day but back then they was more diverse music being exposed, now today only coon music bs rap seems to be played. if there was more diverse hip hop getting exposed but since puffy came along hip hop since like 99, 2000 has pretty much been straight boo boo so Ice t's point is yo all u soulja boys you the ones gettin exposure make sum real ish. soulja boys point is respect my hustle but i cant really support soulja boy on this one cuz he makin trash and i dont support trash. i just watched that nyoil video and all the soulja boys, d4ls and hurricane chris's need to study that video and song.
    June 21, 2008 2:22 PM
     

    Boldseduction69 said:

    YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME?

    DAT LIKE YOUR GRANDPA WANNA KICK YOUR FRIEND'S ASS.

    DA OLDES VS. DA YOUNGEST

    T, NO. GET BACK TO MOVIES.
    June 21, 2008 2:24 PM
     

    Boldseduction69 said:

    YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME?

    DAT LIKE YOUR GRANDPA WANNA KICK YOUR FRIEND'S ASS.

    DA OLDES VS. DA YOUNGEST

    T, NO. GET BACK TO MOVIES.
    June 21, 2008 2:24 PM
     

    MileHighFlyGuy said:

    Black on Black Hate should be a felony. You got this yellow (clearly a house Ni@@a) that has being nothing more than a big contradiction open his trapp about a kid that he say killed Hip Hop. Maybe he should look at the the Gangster rap and dope boy rhymes that motivated young black men to commit genocide.
    June 21, 2008 2:23 PM
     

    MileHighFlyGuy said:

    Black on Black Hate should be a felony. You got this yellow (clearly a house Ni@@a) that has being nothing more than a big contradiction open his trapp about a kid that he say killed Hip Hop. Maybe he should look at the the Gangster rap and dope boy rhymes that motivated young black men to commit genocide.
    June 21, 2008 2:25 PM
     

    MileHighFlyGuy said:

    Black on Black Hate should be a felony. You got this yellow (clearly a house Ni@@a) that has being nothing more than a big contradiction open his trapp about a kid that he say killed Hip Hop. Maybe he should look at the the Gangster rap and dope boy rhymes that motivated young black men to commit genocide.
    June 21, 2008 2:25 PM
     

    ATL$t@r said:

    good article illseed, good avi too lol
    June 21, 2008 2:32 PM
     

    mistachuck said:

    Lil Wayne is a rock star, as with Souljah Boy. They both got a lotta energy and another language entirely. The only road to take here is a higher road. Iceberg is my brother , Souljah Boy, T Pain, Lil Wayne our sons ....especially Souljah Boy/ Flavor Flav

    I thought they both were funny ...ICEs line about fixing bikes had me off the chair as much as SB laughing before he could get his jokes off. Reminds me of a BBQ family picnic ....but we old cats need to be here to school them ..black artists should never sit down no matter what the age, while rockers like Bon Jovi, Metallica, and the Rolling Stones will put your day on hold with their largely white american supported traffic in the streets headed to their stadiums.

    However

    My daughter likes to drive her car but cannot handle the thought of $5 per gallon gas this summer...I have to figure a way to school her thoughts on handling that rather than talking how great it was in 98 when gas was .98 per gallon..

    Ok imma sit my old ass down ... and keep attacking George Bush till he's out of there ....cause that sht has affected all of us...word!
    June 21, 2008 2:33 PM
     

    Oath said:

    @ MAK...... Every comment you make on here sucks ass unfortunately
    June 21, 2008 2:44 PM
     

    bigron202020 said:

    Ice T went about that in the wrong way....period...and he conveyed his message wrong...and although soulja boy came back like expected..dumb jokes(even his homies wasn't laughin)..he had a point..the older generation doin alotta bitchin and complainin..instead of educatin..niggas are veterans..even tho they ain't sellin like they used to..they still have influence on the newer generation..niggas still repect them even if they don't feel they music like the generation before did...we grew up listenin to em...niggas can't relate to the older generation becuz the problems of today are different..we can relate to niggas in our generation more than the generation before us...but the problem with Soulja Boy(and it ain't his fault or his burden to bare alone) is we're lettin our voice, the only thing  we can call our own(Hip Hop) be manipulated by others who don't really understand or care about it(the corporations)...everybody can't be serious all the time...but we can't dance and party all the time either..we need a balance..and the problem...everybody wants to party all the time..and we can't blame the artist..i think the fans killed hip hop more than the artists..did..as long as we generate the market to buy trash..the trash mans gonna sell it
    June 21, 2008 2:48 PM
     

    bigron202020 said:

    @Illseed

    i agree with ya..but that still ain't an excuse to put trash out..Nas put out illmatic and did his thing with Large Professor around the same age give or take a few year..people keep usin age as an excuse to doin things..which don't get me wrong..dudes only seventeen...but if he knows better..why not do better

    @ol girl who said she'd rather let he kids listen to soldier boy than Ice-T

    u do know wut super man that oooo mean rite???

    @everybody sayin Ice-T a clown for playin a cop on TV

    it's just actin..he's playin a part..that doesn't mean that's part of his character..he's playin a character...Ice Cube doin the same shit, but i bet he'd get pounds for transitioning rite...that's like bein mad at Arnold swarzawuteva for not bein a robot...
    June 21, 2008 3:03 PM
     

    Smallaxe said:

    Ice T should have been a lil bit more mature about it still... the problem is never gonna be the artsit, the problem is the coorporate guys that dont give other rappers, that may rep for hip hop in a more authentic way ,too much shine... Souljah Boy is lucky to have the oppurtunity to get some money and make summ of himself... I dont think the young boy is talented by any adult standard... he could be the cat in the hat rapper, but he entertains the kids and make them wanna make there own lil dances up, which is cool, cuz i use to listen to Kris Kross, and ABC and God know they werent writing SHIT!... at the end of the day we have to keep our generation together and we cant allow the generation gap to get too wide... Ice T is mad at the wrong person, but I do think its was cool for him to step up and say "something"... but like Souljah Boy said "gimme some pointers" these kids need to be told what to do and what type of music to make and how to make it, if the older heads aint sittin them down like look, "this shit sucks do it this way" then how can they be mad?..... Ice T lost this one still, but no respect lost to the forefather of Souljah Boys nutts lol.... Im playing.....

    Click on my name for some real music!
    June 21, 2008 3:06 PM
     

    Gold Mind said:

    i feel what ice-t was sayin but he went about it wrong. he too old to be callin out some teenager. soulja boy coulda won by not even responding, makin ice-t out to be the ignorant kid while he be the grown ass man in the situation. instead, they both lame for that shit..
    June 21, 2008 3:07 PM
     

    Gold Mind said:

    i feel what ice-t was sayin but he went about it wrong. he too old to be callin out some teenager. soulja boy coulda won by not even responding, makin ice-t out to be the ignorant kid while he be the grown ass man in the situation. instead, they both lame for that shit..
    June 21, 2008 3:11 PM
     

    WhutTheeHail said:

    If you think about it, Hip Hop has changed over the years. You had the beginning when the focus was on the the elements: The MC, The DJ, B-boy, and the graffiti. Then you had the Golden Age Part I & II and now you have this era where it's all about the monnnnaaaayyy(shoutout to Vince McMahon -- where's my phone call fool!) So you can't expect hip hop to stand in certain era forever. Someone new is bound to come along and cause things to evolve. If you look back @ movies like Breakin I & II, you gonna be like oh shit this is mad corny but when it first came out you wanted to be just like Turbo and Ozone breaking with the wild colors and all that. Peep the Jean Claude Van Damme cameo *dead*

    The point I'm trying to make is that yeah Ice T is mad at the state of hip hop but when you think about when he was out in the 80's, how folks really didn't want hip hop to be around and was trying to find ways to rid of it. Years from now, folks will look at Soulja Boy the same way they look at Breakin now. Maaad corny.
    June 21, 2008 3:13 PM
     

    acuradan623 said:

    children need to be put in their place and since no one was donig it ice had to do it, hes keepin it real and hopefully this discourages other kids from wanting to make lame ass songs like soulja boy, its not an age thing its about hiphop as a lifestyle that ice helped build and im sure hes tired of seeing it go to waste. im with ice on this one
    June 21, 2008 3:14 PM
     

    Gold Mind said:

    i feel what ice-t was sayin but he went about it wrong. he too old to be callin out some teenager. soulja boy coulda won by not even responding, makin ice-t out to be the ignorant kid while he be the grown ass man in the situation. instead, they both lame for that shit..
    June 21, 2008 3:12 PM
     

    BlackPeople 1 said:

    stop makin excuses for these corny muvafuckas.

    tell it to them like it is so they'll grow up strong.

    so the moral of the story is "if it'll get you money no matter what it is go on and do it" ?

    that's how you raise a nation of spineless weaklings.

    a man should draw the line and at some point be able to say "naw. i ain't gon do that."

    talk to these boys like men so they'll grow up strong.
    June 21, 2008 3:29 PM
     

    jay_that_dudeukno said:

    Like I've said before, Nas told hip hop that hip hop was dead and hip hop believed it. That nigga did that shit to sell records. If Solja boy's or D4L's or Hurricane Chris' music is killing hip hop, then hip hop died when it started because there was a slew of music just like theirs. Niggas need to learn how to think for themselves. Hip hop ain't dead, there is just a bunch of old heads running around mad because the young cats is getting bread, and  they don't even have to try that hard to do it. Maybe Nas or Ice-T should have been making dance music.... prolly would have been easier....
    June 21, 2008 3:33 PM
     

    Limitless said:

    PPl are obsessed with this whole "hiphop" is dead bullshit. Like dude said above, Nas only said it to sell records. HipHop is alive and very well. It seems that ppl dnt realize that the state of hiphop is jus like life. THINGS CHANGE! WIth that said there is all types of different music within hiphop..dance music,hardcore,conscious,neo soul, etc. Soulja Boy has nevver said once that he is a lyrical giant and if you listen to his music expecting that then theres no one to blame but your own self. He makes dance music WHICH is part of hiphop. Ice T was really getting down to that Pee Wee Herman dance..LMAO!! No matter what year it is..I'd rather "Superman dat ho" then that bullshit Ice was doing. I got so much love for Ice but come on bruh, you talkin all that pimp shit in, "Pimps up, hos down" and then you do this? Looks like your tru colors are shining thru. Congradulate old school. HipHop will live forevver. We as ppl are trendsetters.
    June 21, 2008 3:52 PM
     

    BlackPeople 1 said:

    I left this on the page about sadat droppin an album.
    but it's something i been feeling for a while now.

    ========================

    y'all know i'm a tru school east coast cannon.
    but i see the future.

    and sometimes I wish these veterans dudes would take apprentices.
    grab a lil youngin that's 15 or so and mold em.

    that's how the shit will perpetuate.
    June 21, 2008 3:53 PM
     

    ssf650mac said:

    Stop hatin on soulja boy. If you dont like him dont buy his records feel me. I'm a father of two granted they young age 2 & 4 , but they love his music. People tend to forget that not all music has to be about serious topics. You can have fun along with big daddy kane came kid n play. You need music to groove too. tell den get out soulja boy's face yahh! trick yahh! lol... Ice-T a fool for trying to get at soulja boy why is he trippin of a youngster anyway...
    June 21, 2008 3:56 PM
     

    BlackPeople 1 said:

    i gotta ask you dudes something.

    everytime somebody talk about your integrity or your product you try to deflect from the issue and start talkin about how much bread or cake you gettin.

    is that all you stand for?

    so you'll let one of these run up in you if the numbers is right?

    if the shoe fit wear it if it don't throw it out.
    but y'all sound like real live whores these days.
    June 21, 2008 3:59 PM
     

    ALAKIA_QUEEONE said:

    both could have handled it differently...anyhow, i WAS jammin to that Pee Wee Herman *lol*
    June 21, 2008 4:10 PM
     

    ssf650mac said:

    co-sign Limitless
    June 21, 2008 4:37 PM
     

    LadyOfBizzness said:

    ii agree wit alotta ya'll ice-t shouldnt said it cuz da kidsz gettin his money

    CamRon said:
    Ice-T shouldn't worry because eventually this style of Hip-Hop will die out.
    Just like the 80's and 90's Hip-Hop did.

    ----------------------


    June 21, 2008 4:38 PM
     

    LadyOfBizzness said:

    ii agree wit alotta ya'll ice-t shouldnt have said it cuz da kidsz gettin his money

    CamRon said:
    Ice-T shouldn't worry because eventually this style of Hip-Hop will die out.
    Just like the 80's and 90's Hip-Hop did.
    ------------------------------------------------

    datsz tru but if hip hop changed now & daysz dis bad; is it gonna get worst cuz we really dont need nomore soulja boyz. I think we only need 1
    June 21, 2008 4:42 PM
     

    LOOSE_CANNON187 said:

     
    ALAKIA_QUEEONE said:
    both could have handled it differently...anyhow, i WAS jammin to that Pee Wee Herman *lol*


    YOU WERE TOO???  But I gotta ride with ICE on this....and I don't think you can blame him for his anger...I mean this nigga made Cop Killer and had the Fed's in his ass...Look at it this way...Ice helped build the house of hip hop...now he ses S.B(and other corny sounding muah-fukkas) tearing down the house he left for them...WOULD YOU NOT BE MAD TOO!  
    June 21, 2008 4:43 PM
     

    shelz said:

    couldnt have said it better myself bossman...

    and lol@the pee wee... rocked it til i popped it
    June 21, 2008 4:46 PM
     

    TX Made Marcuz said:

    i dont get yawl niggaz......i mean soulja boy only defend'n his self ice-t started tha whole thang i mean WDF dew soulja boy gotta dew wit whutever he is dew'n nomtombout......and soulja boy iz not tryna be tha best emcee in tha world so to that bigron202020  dont compare soulja boy and nas cuz they do'n two different thangz Trill Talk


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    June 21, 2008 4:52 PM
     

    nercity07 said:

    I don't like a little kid using super hero references mixed in with "Ho's". I don't like seeing little kids immulating (sp) this little nigga in his music. I think it's ignorant and not needed.

    BUT!!

    I have MAJOR respect for him on how he handled himself in this clip. Disses and all, he is 99.9% right (It's Cop Killer and not "Fuck the Police") but other than that, Ice T has not right for telling a 17 year old Kid to eat a dick. That's worse than a 17 year old kid to say "Superman Dat Ho".

    The more and more us elders talk down to these kids the more and more they will run and not listen to us. We need to remember when our parents were trying to tell us stuff with that "Back in my day" shit we didn't listen..I know I didn't, because it's a new day and time.

    I don't like Soulja Boy music but I do like how he handled himself here. It shows that he's maturing and he probably has the mentality of "I'm gonna show you nigga's, fuck yall" and try to make more hits...and honestly should we blame him?

    There have been Soulja Boys since the beginning of time in Hip Hop, I would just like a balance of substance music to go with the other shit.

    Ice T, you got checked by this more mature 17 year old kid. And honestly Ice T to keep it P.I....nigga you've been talking about Pimpin and bullshit for most of your career so what kind of Role Model are you trying to be?

    www.myspace.com/nercity
    June 21, 2008 5:04 PM
     

    feelitall said:

    First of all Ice T didnt have a song called Fuck the police that was NWA the name of his song was Cop Killa know what you are talking about before you speak.  Ice T said the same thing that a lot of people say bout Solja Boi's music so whats new.  Ice T being a super O.G. shouldnt even brought it like to him like that though.  SB did make some good points though.... since a lot of us dont like the music that is being put out myself included do somthing about it.  I know one thing for certain if he came around me shouting all that ya trick ya shit I would slap the taste out of his mouth then make him go tell his moma about it like I was his uncle.  Ice T is right your music is terrible in my opinion.  But I aint hating on ya do your thang to each his own....

    http://www.myspace.com/mississippimenace
    June 21, 2008 5:05 PM
     

    illseed said:

    A friend asked me this, "At what point do you take the high road?"
    June 21, 2008 5:09 PM
     

    feelitall said:

    Hold on.....wasnt it about a month or so ago LBJ and Jay-Z dissed Solja boi?? AHH community correct me if I wrong...He was all on them niggaz nuts talking bout "im happy they know who I am"...He didnt really have much to say about that....my nigga you aint got no credibitly on this one
    June 21, 2008 5:10 PM
     

    illseed said:

    bigron202020 said:
    @Illseed

    i agree with ya..but that still ain't an excuse to put trash out..Nas put out illmatic and did his thing with Large Professor around the same age give or take a few year..people keep usin age as an excuse to doin things..which don't get me wrong..dudes only seventeen...but if he knows better..why not do better

    ---------------------------------------------------------
    A lotta trash comes out my friend.
    in the 90s and 80s....u kidding me? TRASH ON TRASH! hell,, nas has put out some trash haahahaha - nah, nah...seriously. soulja boy has because a symbol of whts wrong with rap. this may or may not be true. the fact is, rap is outta balance. the trash outweighs the quality.
    June 21, 2008 5:12 PM
     

    illseed said:

     
    BlackPeople 1 said:
    talk to these boys like men so they'll grow up strong.

    BlackPeople, are you suggesting that telling somebody to "eat a d**k" is talking to them like a man? b/c as a MAN, if somebody talks to me like that, won't be any youtubes. we will have a problem. thats no how men talk to each other if they want 1) change and 2) respect from the other person.

    Ice is my DUDE, but i think he coulda got his point across differently.
    June 21, 2008 5:15 PM
     

    jojodove77 said:

    AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN PICTURE SOULJA BOY GETTING HIS ASS WHUPPED WITH A BELT LIKE THAT LIL GANGSTA IN THE MOVIE "BABY BOY"???

    LMAO @ SOME CALI NUKKA WHUPPIN HIM W/ A BELT TALKIN BOUT "WHO YA DADDY"...
    June 21, 2008 5:20 PM
     

    feelitall said:

    Illseed said

    "when ice was poppin i was a kid more or less. he made me think. rob base made me dance."

    How true but rob base was spittin fire lyrics Solja boi dont
    June 21, 2008 5:23 PM
     

    ya future father said:

    good point
    June 21, 2008 5:49 PM
     

    southernfolk said:

    Bottom line... Ice T was wrong and outta line. Period. Soulja Boy is a kid, making music for kids. If Ice-T doesnt like it then dont listen to it - he wasn't saying that when he was in the video for "Do the Pee Wee Herman" - yeah i aint forgot.... Ima connoisseur of this music we call Hip Hop. Shout to you for this editorial Illseed.
    June 21, 2008 5:54 PM
     

    BigKev in Harlem said:

    Soulja Boy did influence Soulja Girl that went ballistic on the train.

    Now dammit, something should be done about that!
    June 21, 2008 6:05 PM
     

    J-DUBB THA YOUNG HECTIC said:

    hip-hop been dying slowly since y'all let 50 cent become the #1 rapper. but i would rather have kids do dumb dances than rap about drugs,gang-banging and killing.
    what the game needs is BALANCE. its kool to have fun but we cant be in the club ALL the time

    http://www.myspace.com/jdubbthayounghectic  


    June 21, 2008 6:05 PM
     

    Limitless said:

    It all comes to down the fact that Soulja Boy came out and smashed the game with one song. It took Ice awhile to shine. If Soulja Boy didnt get all that dough then im sure most of the characters on here wouldnt be hating. Its sad that black folks build eachother up to bring em down.  "hence..hence" 50 Cent..everyone loved em, NOW folks yelling..lol better yet typing " Fuck G-Unit!" It also comes down to self confidence issues. It's easy to say fuck someone when your confidence level is in the dirt. The music i dislike i simply jus dnt buy or listen to it..but i do indeed give love that they are chasing there dreams.
    June 21, 2008 6:26 PM
     

    BigKev in Harlem said:

    true that @ J Dubb.
    June 21, 2008 6:31 PM
     

    DJ TEKNISION said:

    The problem with this article for me is the comparision to the Joe ski luv song, yeah i know there were some wack rappers back in the day doing dance songs, but those songs was never number one on the charts.  The pee wee  was just a song for the party you didn/t hear no one pumpin it in their whips.  The dance songs back in the days came after the dance been out on the street for a while, not the other way around.  We need more balance in Hip hop it ain't about a party everyday!!!  

    These wack rappers are making everyone do dances that they made up when they were high with their boyz. I'm tired of these line dances. Don't everyone get sick of watching the CHA CHA slide at a party?
    June 21, 2008 6:33 PM
     

    DJ TEKNISION said:

    The problem with this article for me is the comparision to the Joe ski luv song, yeah i know there were some wack rappers back in the day doing dance songs, but those songs was never number one on the charts.  The pee wee  was just a song for the party you didn/t hear no one pumpin it in their whips.  The dance songs back in the days came after the dance been out on the street for a while, not the other way around.  We need more balance in Hip hop it ain't about a party everyday!!!  

    These wack rappers are making everyone do dances that they made up when they were high with their boyz. I'm tired of these line dances. Don't everyone get sick of watching the CHA CHA slide at a party?
    June 21, 2008 6:34 PM
     

    DJ TEKNISION said:

    The problem with this article for me is the comparision to the Joe ski luv song, yeah i know there were some wack rappers back in the day doing dance songs, but those songs was never number one on the charts.  The pee wee  was just a song for the party you didn/t hear no one pumpin it in their whips.  The dance songs back in the days came after the dance been out on the street for a while, not the other way around.  We need more balance in Hip hop it ain't about a party everyday!!!  

    These wack rappers are making everyone do dances that they made up when they were high with their boyz. I'm tired of these line dances. Don't everyone get sick of watching the CHA CHA slide at a party?
    June 21, 2008 6:35 PM
     

    DJ TEKNISION said:

    The problem with this article for me is the comparision to the Joe ski luv song, yeah i know there were some wack rappers back in the day doing dance songs, but those songs was never number one on the charts.  The pee wee  was just a song for the party you didn/t hear no one pumpin it in their whips.  The dance songs back in the days came after the dance been out on the street for a while, not the other way around.  We need more balance in Hip hop it ain't about a party everyday!!!  

    These wack rappers are making everyone do dances that they made up when they were high with their boyz. I'm tired of these line dances. Don't everyone get sick of watching the CHA CHA slide at a party?
    June 21, 2008 6:35 PM
     

    DJ TEKNISION said:

    The problem with this article for me is the comparision to the Joe ski luv song, yeah i know there were some wack rappers back in the day doing dance songs, but those songs was never number one on the charts.  The pee wee  was just a song for the party you didn/t hear no one pumpin it in their whips.  The dance songs back in the days came after the dance been out on the street for a while, not the other way around.  We need more balance in Hip hop it ain't about a party everyday!!!  

    These wack rappers are making everyone do dances that they made up when they were high with their boyz. I'm tired of these line dances. Don't everyone get sick of watching the CHA CHA slide at a party?
    June 21, 2008 6:35 PM
     

    NiCk StYlez said:

    Well In my opinion, neither of them should have been beefin anyways, they are two very different distant artists. This beef has no sense I just don't understand this ishh, yeah Ice T sure did go hard at Soulja Boy no doubt about that, however Soulja Boy retaliated hard at Ice T both points got acrossed.

    They should just gain a mutual respect for each other, there's no meaning in this beef it's either a publicity stunt or someone had a bad day lol... overall they gotta cut this and dropp some ill tracks.
    June 21, 2008 6:35 PM
     

    KinG Sh!T832 said:

    ill seed Big up 4 the article....
    S.Beezy came kind correct through some part of the response...
    If u think hiphop is dead( Even thou it an ever changing entity) Do Something!!!!!!
    Pee Wee Herman  Lmao..... that bring bacq 2 my teddy riley days ~ Yea Digg
    June 21, 2008 6:43 PM
     

    THE ANIMAL said:

    IF YOU CAN MAKE IT OUT THE HOOD IN A POSITIVE WAY YOUR A GOOD ROLE MODEL 4 THE KIDS OF TODAY, YOU SEE HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD ITS STUCK IN A TRAFFIC JAM, ALL THESE ARTIST ARE RIDING IN THE SAME LANE, GET YOUR OWN LANE AND RIDE FREE.
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    June 21, 2008 6:54 PM
     

    THE ANIMAL said:

    IF YOU CAN MAKE IT OUT THE HOOD IN A POSITIVE WAY YOUR A GOOD ROLE MODEL 4 THE KIDS OF TODAY, YOU SEE HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD ITS STUCK IN A TRAFFIC JAM, ALL THESE ARTIST ARE RIDING IN THE SAME LANE, GET YOUR OWN LANE AND RIDE FREE.
    myspace.com/bonezmusic225
    June 21, 2008 6:54 PM
     

    THE ANIMAL said:

    IF YOU CAN MAKE IT OUT THE HOOD IN A POSITIVE WAY YOUR A GOOD ROLE MODEL 4 THE KIDS OF TODAY, YOU SEE HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD ITS STUCK IN A TRAFFIC JAM, ALL THESE ARTIST ARE RIDING IN THE SAME LANE, GET YOUR OWN LANE AND RIDE FREE.
    myspace.com/bonezmusic225
    June 21, 2008 6:54 PM
     

    THE ANIMAL said:

    IF YOU CAN MAKE IT OUT THE HOOD IN A POSITIVE WAY YOUR A GOOD ROLE MODEL 4 THE KIDS OF TODAY, YOU SEE HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD ITS STUCK IN A TRAFFIC JAM, ALL THESE ARTIST ARE RIDING IN THE SAME LANE, GET YOUR OWN LANE AND RIDE FREE.
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    June 21, 2008 6:54 PM
     

    muhammed ali said:

    Ice T only spoke what a lot of the real rappers wont say.Soilder Boy created an outlet for him to get outta the ghetto so its not his fault.rappers make a variety of songs some serious some play play and no one can predict what song will be sucessfull and give them a carrer.I think afterSoilder Boy released that Yahhh crap he lost all respect from any fans.Ice T is not a guy to bite his tounge unlike others.Snoop Dog even said the song was bullshit on the radio then i saw a clip of him doin the Superman dance  a few months later.i even hated that shit but one night i got drunk and was Supermannin all night.
    Theirs a lot of talented rappers that are upset that they put their heart and soul into their music and radio wont play it.i understand Soilder Boy is a kid but that still dont mean the song aint garbage.i remember they used to boooo everybody on Showtime At The Apollo now no matter how terrible a kid is everybody gotta cheer and clap.now thats bullshit!!
    if a grown man made that Superman Shit he would get his azz clowned on no matter how much money he made from it.
    Whos right or whos wrong really is an opinion.i personally dont think Ice T was wrong for his comment i juz think he should have dissed the radio stations or song instead of the artist.
    but if Soilder Boy wants respect he shouldnt have told them jokes bout Ice T age cause in the bigger picture Ice T fan base gonna ride with him regardless.Soilder Boys impact on hip hop remains to be seen.
    oh yea 1 more thang

    SOILDER BOY EAT A FAT,LONG,THICK DICK!!!!
    June 21, 2008 6:57 PM
     

    colddog23 said:

    yo leave soulja alone.. he just making that money cant hate that, we need to stick together the only way hip hop can die is from the inside... need to stick together and respects each other he works just as hard as anybody else
    June 21, 2008 7:31 PM
     

    Pikahsso said:

    I got much love for Ice man me and my boy use to drive around Dallas bumping his stuff strong back in the days. But he started it with Soulja Boy these young cats are not gone let you get away with talking to them like that. They dont care about your legacy and with actions like that can you blame them. Its a way you go about things and Ice T went about it kinda raw and I still think Ice is dope a living legend but he was out of pocket...verb
    June 21, 2008 7:53 PM
     

    Antman313 said:

    Ice-t Can learn from Soulja Boy and vice versa, My nephews are 10...I dont want any grown up talking to them like that... eat a D*&K that's was very wrong, Would he tell his son that...which he's 16...ANd Soulja Boy (17) <said he got lil siblings that looks at him like a role model...then hear him talk like this to anyone at his age...in front of hundreds of thousands that will view it....But I understand what SB said about pointers....And the hip hop game is not dead, if he feels that way about it, bring it back...I am a fan of music if it get you where you are now that you wasn't at a yr or so ago then I'm happy for you...Ice-t I won't talk about because Im still a fan of his...Since before "Colors"...Its funny seeing blacks and whites and all colors, kids and grown ups doing the "Superman". Movies, videos, CDS and hip hop is supposed to be Entertainment...this beef is getting way out of hand..With Gas and food as high as it is, life is too short, with layoffs, School closings, we all have to at sometimes "GET SILLY" to help us with all that is going on in the world today.....Lets talk/work it out.. from young to old.....God Bless....

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    June 21, 2008 7:56 PM
     

    yagyrlterror said:

    yeah ice was wrong 4 tha comments...SB ain't one of my favs and prob never will be, but i got respect 4 anybody doin they thing...he took sum of the kids mind off gangbangin and showed them it was anutha way...where i 'm from, we have lil teen dances and block parties and our KIDS don't need to hear that shoot em up bang bang ish while tryin to enjoy themselves...let the lil man make his money and influence the young ones with sumthin positive.

    "Neva talked a n@gga down, do ya thang dog, Neva hate a dude 4 tryin, that's insane dog." - Scarface 'Never'
    June 21, 2008 8:07 PM
     

    butterbrown said:

    ice was wrong for bothering this kid like this!
    c'mon man!
    June 21, 2008 8:25 PM
     

    songwriter said:

    Ice was just being cold honest from his perspective, and from what the game of life has taught him. Yet at the same time I am happy for SB for finding a way to make money, and lots of it. However, when it is all said in done, all of the young rappers really need to look deeper into what Ice said. And when SB said what he said about Ice T's arm breaking off if he hit him.... Ice may be pushin 50 in age, but I'm pretty sure that if it got down to it, (and it never will), Ice would knock SB out cold, without a doubt.
    June 21, 2008 8:32 PM
     

    KOSBEATZ said:

    yo that soulja boy music is garbage i mean how you make a song sayin yah bitch yah
    but at the same time he sellin music and makin his money how he knows how so to me if you makin yo money keep doin it

    but that doesn't excuse the fact that your music is garbage
    June 21, 2008 8:43 PM
     

    ILLAIM said:

    Great article with some very thought provoking points Illseed.

    What crazy is Solja Boy was making some Extremely valid statements, but it was very difficult to acknowledge them  through all of his ageism.

    I wish people would stop stating Hip Hop is dead..

    Its just being whored out by corporate America...

    If it does get slain, it will be at the hands of greedy businessmen with some artists as accomplices, not the main focus of guilt


    June 21, 2008 8:43 PM
     

    Crippled Seedz said:

    I sort of feel what illseed is saying and Ice T shouldn't have said "eat a dick" but illseed you can't compare "Pee Wee Herman" to Souljah Boy's song because "The Pee Wee Herman" was a good song for the youth back then and now you have Souljah Boy straight up disrespecting women by saying "Super soak that hoe". Back in the days we had morals and respect. The reason rappers weren't on commercials was because to us it was considered "Selling out". But now you have a 17 year old straight up disrespecting women with no talent at all. Then he has the nerve to say he's feeding his family by making a song that says "Super soak a hoe?" We need more Salt and Pepa's to say "Tramp what you call me" and put men back in line. The new Generation are puppets.
    June 21, 2008 8:52 PM
     

    Crippled Seedz said:

    Music is only a reflection of society. If society is buying it that goes to show you the new generation is fucked up. We need more fathers out there. I bet you Souljah Boy doesn't have a father in his life.
    June 21, 2008 9:00 PM
     

    DC CA$HVILLE said:

    Even Snoop Dogg dissed Souljah Boy.  This was a few months ago.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjwisBvSoDE

    Peace and more hair grease,

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    June 21, 2008 9:07 PM
     

    SagNasty989 said:

    @ILLSEED: I COULDN'T AGREE WITH THIS PIECE MORE! EXCELLENT ARTICLE ILLSEED! I MEAN, OK, YES WE KNOW THE HURRICAN CHRIS AND SOULJA BOYS OF THE WORLD ARE NOT LYRICALLY CORMEGA/NAS ETC...OK, THAT FACT IS ESTABLISHED..BUT WHATS WRONG WITH THESE YOUNG AFRICAN AMERICAN KIDS/MEN DOING SOMETHING POSTIVE AND MAKING THAT A DIFFERENT ERA OF GENERATION IN HIP HOP ACCEPT!!!! ILLSEED ON ERRTHING MAN, I GO TO THIS AFTER HOUR JOINT IN MY CITY AND ITS LIKE AGES 25 N UP...AND ITS PEOPLE IN THERE IN THE HIGH END OF 30 OR WHAT NOT THAT LOVE SOULJA BOY, HURRICAN CHRIS ETC..ETC...WHEN CRANK DAT WAS OUT, MAN ON MY HOOD BRO I WENT TO QUITE A FEW CABARAES, COOK OUTS, BLOCK PARTIES, AFTER HOUR JOINTS AND DAMN NEAR ERRBODY 35 AND UP, AND I'M TALKIN BOUT SOME CATS FROM THE STREETS, FROM THE "HIP HOP" ERA, 80'S 90'S ETC, WAS OUT ON THE DANCE FLOOR CRANKIN THAT SOULJA BOY! WAS HIP HOP MAD AT ROB BASS WHEN HE MADE HIS PARTY ANTHEM SONGS? NOOOOOOO! WAS HIP HOP MAD AT HUMPTY DANCE???? NOOOOOOO!!!! YOU DON'T HEAR ABOUT BIRD AND MAGIC GETTIN UPSET AT THE LEBRONS AND KOBE'S OF THE WORLD BECAUSE THEY DOIN THIS AND THAT DIFFERENT NOW, OR THEIR SHORTS TOO LONG, SOCKS TOO SHORT....THSES HATEFUL PEOPLE REALLY NEED A HUG AND SOME SERIOUS HELP...ALL IS WELL
    June 21, 2008 9:24 PM
     

    shelz said:

    hmmm.... @ SB now being a target for misogyny as well.  now we all know even back in the day, the chick disrespecting song was always hidden on side B and most rappers recorded one if not several. talent is not the barometer by which to measure the acceptability of that type of ryhme.  it doesnt all of the sudden become ok to clown chicks if your point is hidden in a double entendre or real slippery metaphore. SB has his place and he hasnt done anything alot of other young rappers, past and present, havent done.  hes just a target because he actually pushed some units.
    June 21, 2008 9:53 PM
     

    jadoremoii said:

    i honestly believe hip hop is dead....PERIOD
    idk who is to blame.
    = /
    June 21, 2008 10:15 PM
     

    Lady S said:

    Ice-T should stfu...do it matter?I dont see Ice-T doin nuffin big right now in da rap game.
    June 21, 2008 10:42 PM
     

    Jon J said:

    I'm a Ice- T fan but he is wrong in more ways than one. I'm 25 but I don't like all of those 80's rappers. There are some I like and some I don't. The same goes for today's artist. If you don't like them so what don't listen to them.

    When Kanye released his Graduation album you had old ass rappers, like KRS One, who said the album was not hip hip. It's like if you aren't 35 and older these old guys hate on you for selling cd's when they can't even go gold.

    Soulja Boy is real with his music even though it's for the kids but how many cops did ICE ever kill...None! Hip hop is more than guns, drugs, and talking negative about people. All of these new positive songs get no respect from the old skool. These fools think their music is the only right rap.

    Yo Ice answer one question. Do you want your little kids to listen to a Crank Dat or a Cop Killer? I know the best answer and you do too so stop hatin' on the boy.
    June 21, 2008 11:10 PM
     

    Truedat said:

    Can we please stop the madness???? This is not about age, this is not about old school versus new school. This is about destruction of an artform that took us years to build...SOULJA BOY SHOULD EAT A DICK AND SO SHOULD MR COLLIPARK FOR PUTTING OUT BULLSHIT MUSIC... There is no connection between todays audience and the music. I can put on a Big Daddy Kane record right not and get it crackin. I can put on a Rakim joint right now and the whole place goes crazy. Even a ladi dadi with its simplistic lyrics, there is still a connection that we have to the music and that was what 20 years ago?? The little fuck with the shit that resembles nut on the lens of his glasses really needs a history lesson and an ass kicking. Fuck the police was made by NWA dumbass not Ice T. The younger they get the more stupid they sound. i'm tired of people making excuses about its a younger crowd. Folks...please google REED DOLLAZ...hes young and a straight beast when it comes to lyrics. I guess the bright side is SOULJA BOY is on his way out...ask TAG TEAM and half of the other one hit wonders in tax trouble...P.S> Soulja boy its not about the money I got more than you. Make history not bullshit. COLLIPARK STOP PUTTING OUT BULLSHIT MUSIC...YIN YANG TWINS... FUCKING WACK, HURRICANE CHRIS...FUCKING WACK, SOULJA BOY...FUCKING WACK...
    June 21, 2008 11:45 PM
     

    nercity07 said:

    I swear for God I hate that Nas came out with "Hip Hop is Dead" cause it's the wackest slogan out.

    Hip Hop is far from Dead. Most of you dumb nigga's wouldn't know Hip Hop if it walked up to you and beatboxed right in front of you.

    Hip Hop is a movement and most of you ringtone listening niggas aren't moving with it.

    And you over 30 still yelling "Wu-Tang" ass nigga's are too busy complaining to even know it's still alive.

    Hip Hop has always been an underground movement. It's always been in the clubs, Hip Hop was never about selling millions of records, just telling what's going on. It's fashion, music, dance, art the whole 9.

    Most of ya'll nigga's are on Pop shit. When has the last time you went to an underground show in your hood and listen to an up and coming artist?

    When have you gone to a beatbox battle, DJ battle, graf wars etc? Hip Hop is spoken word poetry, or in rap groups in Toronto, Brazil, Africa too.

    Stop all that "Hip Hop is dead" woah is me shit! Nas only said that to sell records and make nigga's like you say it cause it's a catchy slogan.

    Hip Hop aint dead...but I wish you dudes would dead that slogan.
    June 21, 2008 11:54 PM
     

    feelitall said:

    DC CA$HVILLE said:
    Even Snoop Dogg dissed Souljah Boy.  This was a few months ago.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjwisBvSoDE

    Glad you posted that shit like solja boi got niggaz saying "fuck the south".."the south killed hip hop" it fucks it up for real niggaz that do spit... let it be known Im from the South and that aint the music I represent you know what I aint gone post any more comments about solja boi after watching those video clips of niggaz dissin him....

    http://www.myspace.com/mississippimenace
    June 21, 2008 11:58 PM
     

    lankganglia said:

    this is the first time i have thought about souljah boy in weeks, ice t just sold a few more records for him
    June 22, 2008 12:00 AM
     

    the_madhatter said:

    Damn Illseed....always bringin the real talk! on point wit this one.

    In my opinion, they were both wrong.

    Soulja Boy- Don't care how many ringtones he sold or if he created a dance craze to last a century, Ice-T is a legend wit credentials that shits completely on his one hit and instead of lookin at him as old, he might wanna take some pointers.

    Ice-T- Understand that yes, Soulja Boy's music is bullshit, but at the same time, he's a kid...and really, the standards of rap for young'ns like him are so low, that he can pretty much get away with murder, and simply, constructive criticism and disrespect are two very different things.
    June 22, 2008 12:01 AM
     

    the_madhatter said:

    Damn Illseed....always bringin the real talk! on point wit this one.

    In my opinion, they were both wrong.

    Soulja Boy- Don't care how many ringtones he sold or if he created a dance craze to last a century, Ice-T is a legend wit credentials that shits completely on his one hit and instead of lookin at him as old, he might wanna take some pointers.

    Ice-T- Understand that yes, Soulja Boy's music is bullshit, but at the same time, he's a kid...and really, the standards of rap for young'ns like him are so low, that he can pretty much get away with murder, and simply, constructive criticism and disrespect are two very different things.
    June 21, 2008 11:59 PM
     

    DC CA$HVILLE said:

    *****BREAKING NEWS*****

    Ice-T and his son respond back at Souljah Boy's response video and Ice-T goes HARD on the dude.  Ice-T does apologize to Hurricane Chris for his comments about Chris's hair.  Also, Ice-T wants to start a war between Real Hip-Hop and Wack Hip-Hop.  We all know who will win at the end, but do we need this war now and will it end some of the wackness of Hip-Hop?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24bnqZWSZP8

    Peace and more hair grease,

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    June 22, 2008 12:06 AM
     

    fizzroy said:

    niggas acting like little bitches..and illseed leading the way..

    so the fuck what ice t said soulja boy wack and he killed hip hop..all that do is tell me ice t dont like soulja boy shit..

    this nigga wrote a whole article to explain that..only thing ice did wrong to me..was telling the little nigga to eat a dick..but fuck it he a grown ass man he could say what he wanna say..

    and he gotta accept what come back..so soulja boy dissed him back..so what? ..wow thats the first time that happen in hip hop..

    yall let niggas on here writing these articles hype shit up..then write a post like some real shit poping off..
    June 22, 2008 12:25 AM
     

    IronHorse said:

    I can respect any man standing up for his shit, so i can respect soulja boy for at least having the guts to tell an OG or any man to eat a dick for disrespecting him...and I feel him, but this is almost always the case when you don't know the real essence of a nigga. You start assuming shit...
    I woulda never knew the kid was broke last year with all the dancing & carrying on....wish he woulda made a good song about all that shit, he probably coulda won a fan if it was any good...after all this is the music buisness isnt it? growth?
    This is what happens when the new niggas act like lyrics is a waste of time and an OG steps up, You get into shit like this. And the young niggas go into old head mode with that cornball shit and NOBODY wins. whats Ice t gonna do, regulate?
    AT LEAST understand where Ice-T is coming from though...
    The young cats just hear all the belly aching about the old days verse the new, which nobody likes to hear even myself to some degree, but ya'll have no idea of how that shit felt back then...the impact...thats was some serious history for some of us, you can't expect us to just shut up about it cause your...young?...it wasn't that long ago in all reality.
    Theres niggas who got real love for hip hop, and thats why you'll keep having niggas ready to say fuck whatever' or whoever is wack at the time for hip hop. Is what it is. Just like you got niggas who'll die over colors in the world, same shit. is what it is.
    On the other hand that kinda shit makes Ice-T look a little weak, just like it made GZA look a little weak BECAUSE soulja boy is so harmless and young and they need guidance, but would they fuckin listen anyway? would you? so yeah they lost that one....I guess....
    Then again can you honestly sit here and blame these niggas for feeling some kinda way about all this bullshit going?
    Its like making a car from scratch and fixing it up to give to your little brother...only to watch him disrespect the work you put into the shit, then turn around and sell it to a wack nigga and act like he dont give a fuck

    Can't blame the kid Ice...he spoke from the heart just like soulja boy did. Ice aint got no album coming out. for what? if he does, he GOTTA be bored. Plus it would be indie anyway so he would be straight like he hass been for the last decade!! The game sucks, aint none of these legends getting inspired by none of this new nigga music, they couldnt be, nobody is...The nigga got so sick he said "fuck it" and spoke his heart just like he always done HIS ENTIRE CAREER. I can respect that shit cause I dont like that soulja boy shit either, but I dont hate that lil nigga. Thats where I disagree. I danced to the soulja boy shit before, and I happen to think Rakim is the illest rapper ever in life...no big deal.
    Im just sayin...gotta feel both of these niggas on this one, lets be fair...niggas ready to start challenging Ice-T's street cred in the bottom of the 12th like thats proving something...lol...
    June 22, 2008 12:25 AM
     

    fizzroy said:

    @ nercity07

    iam gonna call you nerear07..shut yo punk ass up..fuck is you the voice of hip hop..what yo punk ass know about hip hop..

    nigga got a tied up man in his avi..fruit loop ass nigga..

    iam a run yo bitch ass off this website..punk
    June 22, 2008 12:28 AM
     

    Knowl said:

    Ice T shouldn't have told a 17year old to eat a dick, but other than that I agree with him
    June 22, 2008 12:30 AM
     

    nclive13 said:

    me being 31 i think Ice T was out of pocket for telling another man TO SUCK HIS DICK!! if ya'll can agree with ice t on this one then ya'll need help! bottom line is that S.B. made that for KIDS DAMMIT if you don't get it then there's the problem right there. Good article Illseed hopefully somebody will pass this on to Ice T and tell him he was wrong
    June 22, 2008 12:44 AM
     

    HannibalSmith_ahh said:

    the first 5 minutes of Soulja Boy's response make him look worse than anything anyone has said about him to date, or his material that some would consider not so great.

    He makes some very good points toward the closing, but you have to sit through him clowning someone for being old and other ignorant shit to get to it. Either you get old or you die. If you've had a fucking rough ass life, you're lucky to get to be 50. How the fuck are you going to clown someone for that shit? Only if you have nothing else to say.

    Also, the fact that he acted like he was swift for looking up info about Ice T online made him look like a fucking fool. Like it's some big secret what Ice T's name is, and as if the Law&Order/Cop Killer comparison has never been brought up. Or that it was a fucking shocking secret that Ice T was born in New Jersey. Really, anyone looking up anything on fucking wikipedia of all places, and then acting like they've stumbled across top secret information to utilize for thier cause should realize the extent to which it makes you look like a complete fucking chump with the wit of a socket wrench.

    Soulja Boy appeared to have known next to nothing about Ice T before all of this - that's really the problem with this whole situation, bottom line. You aren't going to find members of any of ANY type of new rock band, regardless of the subgenre, that would be so blatantly unfuckingfamiliar and disrespectful of the legacy they make thier money off of, and add on to (for better or worse). Eyelinear wearing emo kids know the Cure. Shitty half assed garage rock bands are familiar with Iggy Pop. You aren't going to find many kids the same fucking age as soldier boy who are starting metal bands that don't know shit about Black Sabbath or Slayer. You won't find 17 year old guitarists making youtube videos full of lame ass attempts at clowning on Joe Satriani just because his career has existed longer than thier life. why? Because it MAKES NO SENSE.

    Ice T maybe should've handled it somewhat different, but he didn't make nearly the ass out of himself Soulja Boy did. He didn't come out on his porch, waving his fist in the air at all those damn kids walking on his lawn. He named names and said specifics. He didn't say "17 year old" like it was a insult. Maybe because he was 17 at one point. If soulja Boy doesn't fucking die before he's 50, how fucking stupid will he feel looking back on that? Especially if he - god forbid - is still rapping. Worse yet, some kid who's 17 and has a war of words with his 50 year old "ancient" ass and digs upthis video.

    If he wanted to return fire on Ice T, that's not wrong considering he drew first blood, It's the way he went about it that's the problem, because it shows the bigger problem - the lack of respect for hiphop foundation layers. He should've went at Ice on specifics, not generalities like age - because in doing so he shit on A WHOLE LOT of rappers and hiphop pioneers  inadvertantly. Kool Herc, Run & DMC, Grandmaster Flash, Cube, KRS, G Rap, Bambaataa (I'm sure Soulja Boy would have to Wikipedia that one) got buckshot sprayed by him shooting his mouth off the way he did.
    June 22, 2008 12:47 AM
     

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    June 22, 2008 1:11 AM
     

    Streetweyez Sayles said:

    What is all this talk about Souljah Boy shitting on Ice T? Man that youngin aint shit on Ice T. Ice was serious in addressing the current condition of wackness in Hip Hop and Souljah Boy responded like the kid he is. When the old timers used to correct me I listened. Now I do know a bunch of dudes I grew up with that didn't listen, they damn sure aint doing better than me as of right now today. It is the folly of youth to think you know more than you really know.
    June 22, 2008 1:17 AM
     

    bipro20 said:

    soulja boy told'em!

    u gotta respect the young brotha!!

    www.myspace.com/bipro1
    June 22, 2008 1:22 AM
     

    bipro20 said:

    soulja boy told'em!

    u gotta respect the young brotha!!

    www.myspace.com/bipro1
    June 22, 2008 1:25 AM
     

    realtalk5 said:

    check it, ice-t should have came more clearly or said what he said in a lighter text. but ice was being honest and should have commented on a subject that most rappers wont do.

    do i think s.breezy killed hip hop.NO.

    and youngin was out of line for going at tha O.G. like that. yes ice said some disrespectful stuff, but soulja boy was just as wrong until the end of the video(i agreed with some of the stuff to a degree).

    plus who gets their sources from wikipedia.-U GOTTA BE SMARTER THAN THAT.

    I do not listen to any crap soulja boy puts out. but let dude have his moment in the sun.let him get his money.

    NOTE-DID ANYONE NOTICE THAT WHEN ICE-T WAS MENTIONING SOME OF THE GREATS STARTING WITH RAKIM HE(soulja boy)JUST DISREGARDED IT LIKE THEY WERE TRASH.MAYBE IM WRONG BUT THAT WASNT RIGHT.

    now i do have a problem with the way soulja boy came off sayin nigga so many times. but in this day in age where BARACK could be the first black president, shouldn't we as black people check outselves before we say it.look im tryin to stop using it because it goes to an historical refrence to 350 years of slavery. i dont care if its ends with an A OR AN ER. we gots to chill.

    bottom line both should end it, rappers should learn to communicate with each other better, and it shows rap has a long way to go. shout to all tha O.G.'s n the youngins.

    ICE let the kid get his money. but i ask this does gettin his money come with a price?(sip on that)

    NAS CHILL WITH THE HIP HOP IS DEAD. IT AINT UNLESS SOULJA BOY AND THE TROOPS COME WITH THE CRAP.

    im out real talk.

    "GET YA MONEY, I AINT MAD.FIX BIKES"-ICE-T(LMAO)
    June 22, 2008 1:44 AM
     

    realtalk5 said:

    plus soulja boy looked real bad at the the beginning.so did ice-t.




    real talk.

    June 22, 2008 1:46 AM
     

    realtalk5 said:

    good article Illseed

    real talk
    June 22, 2008 1:48 AM
     

    bipro20 said:

    ahh cant keep up with wshh!!

    new ice video already!!

    the internet is wild shit!!

    June 22, 2008 2:01 AM
     

    chocolate1 said:

    I ain't a fan-but he made some good points at the end. "If folks say hip-hop is dead...then revive it"


    June 22, 2008 2:09 AM
     

    CANARSIEWAY said:

    ok i admit soulja boy is whack as shyt but he has a point what the fuck is Ice T doing coiming @ this lil dude? and i agree if you feel as if  hip hop as he knows it is dead then he should be givin pointers and puttin young dudes on instead of looking to beef with corny gimic kid
    June 22, 2008 2:21 AM
     

    CANARSIEWAY said:

    ok i admit soulja boy is whack as shyt but he has a point what the fuck is Ice T doing coiming @ this lil dude? and i agree if you feel as if  hip hop as he knows it is dead then he should be givin pointers and puttin young dudes on instead of looking to beef with corny gimic kid
    June 22, 2008 2:22 AM
     

    CANARSIEWAY said:

    ok i admit soulja boy is whack as shyt but he has a point what the fuck is Ice T doing coiming @ this lil dude? and i agree if you feel as if  hip hop as he knows it is dead then he should be givin pointers and puttin young dudes on instead of looking to beef with corny gimic kid
    June 22, 2008 2:22 AM
     

    FLOOD504 said:

    Ice T earned the right to say whatever he want to .. that's just my opinion .. but at the same time , I don't have a problem with Soulja Boy gettin paid. Even if he is str8 garbage ..

    If you tired of that simple minded shit u been hearin , check out my newest track ..

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=D4QOgn7L_Ek

    Peace
    June 22, 2008 2:45 AM
     

    fizzroy said:

    ayo alotta you niggas on here sound stupid in your fucking head..a nigga asked ice t how he felt about soulja boy shit..and he told him

    wtf he was suppose to do lie..when somebdy ask you a question..you answer it right?

    you mad at a nigga for not saying what you want him to say..
    June 22, 2008 2:46 AM
     

    BogishNiggarosis said:

    THE PROBLEMS THESE TEENS ARE FACING TODAY WITH MURDERS, PREGNANCY, AND NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD HIGHER EDUCATION WHICH IS ABSOLUTLY NECESSARY TO GET DAMN NEAR ANY JOB IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. I LISTEN TO SOULJAH BOY NOT CUZ I LIKE IT BUT CUZ I GOT KIDS, AND HE AINT FOR KIDS! ALOT OF THE SHIT HE SAY IS FOUL AND A BAD INFLUENCE ON CHILDREN, WHICH ALOT OF RAP, INCLUDING SOME OF ICE-T SHIT, IS. S.B. CAME AT HIM SIDE WAYS BUT ICE OPENED THE DOOR FOR IT WITH HIS COMMENTS AND REALLY S.B. HAD MANY VALID POINTS. BOTTOM LINE THIS IS WILLIE LYNCH MENTALITY THE OLD AGAINST THE YOUNG, AND ITS CORPORATE INTREST THATS KILLING HIP HOP!!!

    ReAl hiphop will Never Die yALL!!!
    June 22, 2008 3:12 AM
     

    UltraMagNeticMC said:

    I'm no Soulja Boy fan. I don't like his stuff anymore than I like Ice T when he tried to cross hip hop over into heavy metal. I think Ice went a little far though in saying that SB was destroying hip hop and telling him to eat a d.
    June 22, 2008 3:24 AM
     

    Mornin Man said:

    I've been a fan of Ice T since Rhyme Pays & my personal favorite Girls L.G.B.N.A.F. & I am not a Soulja Boy fan...but Ice takes a L on this one. The reasons he lashed out at the lil homie were lame...I really thought Ice would be one of the vets (like Scarface) that could see and respect Soulja Boy for what he is. He's a 17 year old that makes music that appeals to that age group. Not to mention, he's making his paper without having to worry about the ABC boys rollin' up on him like so many other brothas his age. The age gap among musicians (especially Blacks) has been in existence for a while. When Louie Armstrong was a solid vet in the game, along came Dizzy Gillespie & Bird with Be-Bop...which Louie labled as garbage. It wasn't garbage (as we can see now in hindsight)...it's the changing of the guard. Ice...please check yaself.
    June 22, 2008 3:27 AM
     

    JonErHymes said:

    Ice-T wasn't wrong by saying that sb doesn't match lyrically to any of the rappers he's mentioned.  Sb wasn't wrong either by saying they should've congratulated him instead of telling him to eat a dick.  
    Bottom line, Ice-T could've went about it in a better way than to come online and diss sb as if he was hatin...cuz lotta people see it that way.  
    As for sb, he need to recognize and watch his mouth.  U gon quit rap when you get old?? U never quit rap playa.  Hip Hop is life and it dies when you die.  Realize.

    check this out!!
    www.myspace.com/jonerhymes
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    June 22, 2008 3:37 AM
     

    DEEP EAST OAKLAND P said:

    @ ILLSEED
    THIS REMINDS ME OF YOUR LIL WAYNE POST.STOP BEING SCURRED OF ALL THE SOULJA BOY MINDLESS ROBOT FANS AND SPEAK YA MIND PIMPIN!!

    @ EVERYBODY BACKING SOULJA BOY RETARDED ASS

    KILL YALL MOTHAFUCKING SELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    THIS IS WHAT ICE WAS TELLING HIM(IN A LESS GANGSTA WAY)
    "STOP MAKING BULL SHIT AND STOP MAKING A MOCKERY OF WHAT I AND SO MANY OTHERS DO/DID."

    NOW SOULJA BOY IS ALWAYS SAYING
    1.STOP HATTING
    2.I'M GETTING MONEY
    3.I'M 17

    ALWAYS DODGING THE SUBJECT OF HIM BEING THE WACKEST WANNABE RAPPER ALIVE.

    GOD DAMN!!! EVERY BODY SOFT AND SO LOVING NOW.SO WHEN YOU CALL A SPADE A SPADE YOUR A HATER NOW? WOW!!!!!!!!

    ICE JUST GAVE THIS LIL MOTHAFUCKA A POINTER IF YALL DIDN'T HEAR IT.ONLY THE SOFT PEOPLE WHO NEVER GOT A WHIPPING DIDN'T CATCH IT.
    June 22, 2008 4:04 AM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    Eat a Di*k is a very powerful thing to say to a 17 year old. Isn't  that like child pornography???? I can almost see that Dateline dude coming out to confront Ice T with "I'm Chris Hanson from Dateline"....

    My legal team would "eat" that case!!
    June 22, 2008 4:36 AM
     

    Biggsdafreed said:

    who is Illseed?







    Everybody is an Illseed!
    June 22, 2008 4:41 AM
     

    DEEP EAST OAKLAND P said:

    WACK SHIT IS THE NEW HOT SHIT/
    AND ALL YOU WEAK MINDED MOTHAFUCKAS ARE CO SIGNING IT

    - ME
    June 22, 2008 5:06 AM
     

    KING NIP 415 said:

    FUCK SOULJA BOY. HE LOOKS PRETTY HOMO WITH THOSE LINES IN HIS EYEBROWS. LOOKS LIKE HE WAS BEEFIN WITH WOLVERINE OR SOMETHING. ICE-T WILL PIMP SLAP THAT LIL BASTARD. AND WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THOSE OTHER JACKASSES HANGIN ROUND IN THE BACK? WAS THE SUPPOSED TO INTIMIDATE ICE-T PRETTY WEAK SOULJA BOY STEP IT UP YOU LIL FUCK!!!!!!!!!
    June 22, 2008 5:14 AM
     

    nonononot said:

    Ice-T, realize that this 17 year old BOY is making music for children. He had a song on his album about his report card for goodness sake. Of course it's wack to you Ice-T, it's not for you. Do you go "fu*kin Sesame Street is wack! All them songs Ernie and Burt is singin' is wack", I certainly hope not. And having your TEENAGE son speak for you, doesn't lend much to your masculinity.
    June 22, 2008 6:02 AM
     

    nercity07 said:

    fizzroy-

    You are the corniest nigga on this site (And that's saying a lot). Did you just say that you were going to run me off this site? lol!!

    Take your lame ass to sleep, you probably running up ya mama's electric bill.

    lol @ this dude saying that he's gonna run me up off this site, like it's the turf or something. I'm just gonna call you corny ass nigga.
    June 22, 2008 7:10 AM
     

    nercity07 said:

    fizzroy-

    You are the corniest nigga on this site (And that's saying a lot). Did you just say that you were going to run me off this site? lol!!

    Take your lame ass to sleep, you probably running up ya mama's electric bill.

    lol @ this dude saying that he's gonna run me up off this site, like it's the turf or something. I'm just gonna call you corny ass nigga.
    June 22, 2008 7:11 AM
     

    Limitless said:

    NIggas is fronting on this site man. Granted, Ice t is a legend. But since when did even his lyrics become raw? His music was weak as shit! "Ohh SB shouldn't of disrespected him" You cant tell me that the lyrics to cop killer were fire, if you do then your lying your ass off. Its jus the title of the song that made it pop, not the contents of it.FUck all that dumb shit. I hate to make this comparison but it sheds tru light on the situation. If an ol head gets out of prison then hits the block the young head who took ovver after the ol head went in,  aint gonna give up his block and show "respect" to the ol head whos tryna take money out of his pocket by hating. That ol head gon get knocked off. These old characters not jus in the game but around the world think that they deserve respect without giving it back. Its a two way street. You get what you put out.Lame cats on here sayin SB is lame but open your eyes. Ice T is a 50 year old man..but his mentalilty in this situation is far more younger then SB's. Yes SB clowned him in the video as anyone would in the situation. Niggas seem to only be focusing on the funny shit SB said. It was tru..Ice is a old ass nigga. Tryna step on a young nigga shoes. Come on man. In all i respect anyones opinion..but this shit is clear as day my niggas. A grown man stepped out of bounds on some elementary shit. Ice did his thing but it aint like he was evver on top of the hiphop game anyway. he envys that SB did that with one song. You gotta be one narrow minded nigga if u think rap music is only suppose to be about one content. Get real. Ice T himself should know thats theres more in the game then jus hardcore lyrics  lyrics since he's been in it for so long. WHy dont Ice T respnd to that pimp nigga who was on this site talkin bout takin his bitch awhile ago? LMAO Illseed you should revamp that article. That cat was dead serious..LMAO
    June 22, 2008 7:22 AM
     

    Limitless said:

    Fuck it, Ice T aint no Legend. No legend would step out of bounds and down talk a young brotha whos doing him, and not fronting acting as if hes a drug dealer. Ice T's name nevver comes up in a list of Rakim and and NWA. Jus cuz he been around for a while doesnt certify him as a legend. The contradiction in his statement is easily seen. Niggas was doing the fuck out of the "Pee Wee Herman" in the video. But i guess hes gotta hold up to his fake persona of being a gangsta. Real G's congradulate Ice. No wonder your left out of the Legend List. They knew u for lame shit like this.
    June 22, 2008 8:09 AM
     

    MAK™ said:

    ICE T'S NEW VIDEO HAS ME RE-THINKING WHO REALLY WON OR WHO LOST THIS..


    June 22, 2008 8:27 AM
     

    Richochet83 said:

    I was never really no Ice-T fan, but he did have a couple of songs I did fuck wit like "Colors" and "I'm your Pusha"...But I mean I do feel him emotional when it comes to Hip-Hop. Especially when I grew up in an era where every other nigga that came out was better than the last. The only thing that has gotta better these days as far as Hip-Hop is the music production. But even with that these nigga out here are getting tight ass beats and saying bullshit over them. Its gotta to the point now that as long as the beat is tight niggaz don't care whats being said on the track. Like Soulja boy is 1000000% garbage. But at the same token he's a smart nigga. Cuz you go from making a video in your house to making millions off that shit. I can't hate a man for that. But I get in my feelings to when nigga ask me about the state of Hip-Hop too. And finally, I'm going to disagree with Ice-T when he said Soulja Boy killed Hip-Hop. NO! Whoever killed 2Pac killed Hip-Hop. So blame that motherfucker!
    June 22, 2008 10:40 AM
     

    bknewstash said:

    they both succ.period
    June 22, 2008 10:58 AM
     

    SagNasty989 said:

    @
    June 22, 2008 11:20 AM
     

    SagNasty989 said:

    @LIMITLESS: PREACH BROTHA PREACH!!!!!!!!!!! CO-SIGN THAT SHIT!!!!! THAT WAS 100 LEGIT!!!!
    June 22, 2008 11:21 AM
     

    mu$h da great said:

    i dont know where to begin...... this nigga ice t is trippin, trying to make one young nigga the scapegoat for supposedly everything that bad in hip hop.this new video just solidified that, this nigga gets to rambling on about hgow soulja boy fucked up responding to him, how he got the whole westcoast on his back & one of his friends called him up & asked him was it bout to be a war....... lmao. how much cake he got & soulja boys not eating like him....smh. niggas been rappin a year & a half though (wonder did ice t get the equivalent to bread like that when he debuted?). he goes on to apologize to hurricane chris bout the hair comments ..... (he had a perm up until when lol?). then this nigga has the audacity to put his son on the video to say something bout soulja boy. how do you address this nigga & nobody else..... wit  all these liars & fabricators in hip hop?wont have no words for ross, jeezy, puff daddy.  bet that nigga dont say shit to gucci or shawty lo bout there  raping ability ( which i like both of there music but there not lyricist might  i add), or to 50 cent about him pumping out all those radio friendly rap love songs or that wwf like back & forth photoshop beef shit. like its not a million niggas in rap wit a gimmick, shit his whole career hes been a gimmick truth be told whether his persona is real or fictitious. man i wish pimp c was still alive to access some of this shit thats been going on in rap as of late, that nigga kept it 1hunnid. at any rate here is the video where ice t embarasses hisslef even more. i could see if in the original video it waz jus constructive criticizm but it just came across as ..... i dont know ..... hate for lack of a better word ... they not even in the same lane . 85% of the niggas that buy soulja boys material didnt even know who ice t waz till now (im guessing). the demographic for there listeners is so gapped there is no way that they could be in competition with each other (not that anybody is really checkin for ice t any way but im just saying). this nigga talking crazy like ahhh you shouldnt even say nothin ima o.g. yadda yadda yadda. ill be damned if  i let any mutherfucker disrespect me like that without letting the nigga know what the biz is. ice t is outta pocket for this shit. im rambling now let me jus cut to the video so yall can see it for yallselves.


    http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhq9z3q3NkC84R2zc9
    June 22, 2008 12:22 PM
     

    mu$h da great said:

    adresss some of these false flagging fake bloods in rap lol
    June 22, 2008 12:28 PM
     

    mu$h da great said:

    the why didnt ice t say nothing to none of these niggas remix of foolish by shawty l-o


    http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3GiL9jnS5d8mCd0P


    dont get it twisted though i like all these niggaz music.... (except baby). it was jus so much shit under the sun ice t could have touched on or people he could have addressed that would have had more merit  but didnt, he chose to go @ soulja boy whos not promoting violence or drug dealing in his music but dancing of all things.... thats just crazy to me. it seems like a copout. dudes been coming off as a hypocrit for a while though.....remember when he was giving a little speech @ the source awards i believe it was where he was standing @ the podium with scarface talking bout  "gangsta music" & the ills of it? i know im not the only person that remembers that.
    June 22, 2008 12:44 PM
     

    naaz said:

    yo dat nigg ice t isa hatea , a hate dat supaman song but ay if iits makin money den who da hell i u 2 tlk bout it , comes 2 think of it ice t aint much betta rappea den soulja boi , BOTH SUXX , real rappeas need 2 get bac on track A-fukin-SAP
    June 22, 2008 12:56 PM
     

    beatbrothersproduction said:

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    June 22, 2008 1:18 PM
     

    WEST COAST EMT said:

    fizzroy said:
    ayo alotta you niggas on here sound stupid in your fucking head..a nigga asked ice t how he felt about soulja boy shit..and he told him

    wtf he was suppose to do lie..when somebdy ask you a question..you answer it right?

    you mad at a nigga for not saying what you want him to say..
    -------------------------------------
    co-sign
    June 22, 2008 1:28 PM
     

    Cycl-1777 said:

    I haven't posted in a minute but a lot of people are missing the point. It's not like good music doesn't exist now and it's like corny music didn't exist back in the days.

    They DJ or whoever asked Ice-T how he felt about Soulja Boy and Ice-T gave his honest opinion and I expect nothing less from Ice-T. Come on he's the cat who made 'Cop Killer'. Do you really expect him to hold his tongue.

    If Soulja Boy is happy with who he is and what he does, that's fine. He should stop respondin' to everybody that disses him and get paper. It's always gonna be somebody who ain't feelin' you and it's always gonna be somebody who doesn't like you. Fuck them and do you and Ice-T wasn't hatin' he was doin' him. I've never seen Ice-T do a dance so I wouldn't expect him to like dance music.

    There is always gonna be beef between Club rappers and Lyricists in Hip-Hop, always. I wouldn't have it any other way. NoBODY is killin' Hip-Hop. It's still the same as it's always been. Think about, Public Enemy and Young MC were out at the same time and they both got money. Puff Daddy and Wu-Tang were out at the same time and they both got money. The problem is now there isn't a balance. Soulja Boy can get money but a cat like Talib can't get his videos played and that's what's killing Hip-Hop.

    I've got more to say about this topic but I'm tired of typin' so I'll leave it at that.

    http://thehiphopchronicles.blogspot.com/

    June 22, 2008 1:53 PM
     

    Big Cle said:

    yall sound so fuckin dumb. soulja boy made a catchy lil tune for the radio. he's having fun. he's a fucking kid. u want him to save the world or something? ask yourself this, would u want your kid listening to cop-killer or crankdat?
    June 22, 2008 2:06 PM
     

    mu$h da great said:

    June 22, 2008 2:11 PM
     

    BX_Stand_Up said:

    fizzroy said:
    ayo alotta you niggas on here sound stupid in your fucking head..a nigga asked ice t how he felt about soulja boy shit..and he told him
    ______________________________________

    cosign completely

    Ice-T gave an honest opinion, but in his opinion he is neglecting the fact that he is speaking to a generation that is mostly removed from his era of hip hop. Socially Conscious rap pertaining to what is going on at the time. Ice T has clout that few rappers now can even come close too, and Illseed is completely right.

    Whether Soulja Boy is after that sense of longevity is highly doubtful. More likely than not, he is a 17 year old reveling in the success of his hit single and seeking to only get fresh, put his friends on, buy some kicks, probably a car and live it up for the time being. And no one can fault him for that. The kid is a rapper, whether he is a GOOD rapper is up to ones personal opinion, but he is a rapper nonetheless who is making money on what he loves to do....RAP.

    Ice-T must understand that, and as an influential member of the hip hop community he can CONSTRUCTIVELY tell soulja boy that he certainly isn't breaking down any barriers with his style of rap   and if he wants respect from real hip hop heads, then he needs to step his game up.

    I dislike soulja boy. His response was as immature as i expected it to be, but i praise him for not making a music video or a song (which i thought he was going to do). Though it was convoluted  with him making lame ass jokes more for the benefit of making his friends laugh, he did make a point in stating that Ice-t at best should be praising him for at least BREAKING INTO mainstream rap. It may lack the lyrical tour de force of people like lupe fiasco, RZA, kanye, big L, Biggie, Pac and so forth....but then again, Soulja boy is just trying to make money right now, not necessarily influence anybody.

    Soulja Boy is club music. And last time i checked, club music wasnt aiming to spark a revolution, or comment on injustice in todays society. It was made get people bumpin....and in terms of that Soulja boy hit the nail right on the head.

    ~~~~~

    Real Talk.... NYC/Bronx Stand Up!!!!
    June 22, 2008 2:56 PM
     

    BX_Stand_Up said:

    Check this though....

    Ice T talking alot about how much money he has and what not, but he rockin one of those lame ass reebok Iverson Jerseys they sell at Sports Authority...

    Ice T...I respect you and all that....but cmon man!!!
    June 22, 2008 2:58 PM
     

    breakdownbeats said:

    Young people - Hip hop is music.  Its not just a way to make money.  You will gain respect from us when you either rap well, or you can play an instrument.  We will diss and try to school you until you can.  The simple fact is that there are really none of you that can rap.   All of your beats suck as well.  Sorry.  But true.  I think that is what Ice T is saying, or really wanted to say.  He just used Souljah Boy as an example.  The truth is you all really suck and most of us are holding our tongue.  You should listen to us and step your game up.   Hopefully you will get some knowledge out of it.   Before you say not all suck, answer my question, "Where is the next Rakim?".  Thats real talk.  ... One other thing.  Your beats suck too.  All of you.
    June 22, 2008 3:28 PM
     

    ThaGrizzly1 said:

    Dayum Ice T got this so called generation of rap fans mad as hell Ha Ha! People that is Ice T being Ice T so if yall dont like dont pay attention to it! Yea it was wack music back in the late 80s on but IT DIDNT SELL RECORDS & WASNT ON THE POP CHARTS!! That is the whole point.... I see ppl sayin that souljah boy aint tryin to be the best mc in the game he is just tryin to get money. Well that's some funny shit cause if you had dreams of being a racecar driver don't you want to be the BEST in that field  or if ya wanna be a cook dont ya wanna be the BEST cook the same  shit applies to rap. When ppl say well Ice T is old hell Jay-z aint too far behind his ass in age but that's the mainstream favorite artist... I believe some of yall know that this new wave of music is wack as fuck & dont wanna accept the truth yall rather let those old corporate hicks tell yall what is & what isnt hiphop that is crazy... When Biggie, Pac, & Pun died I thought this rap shit was gonna be crackin cause of the bar was risen to a high level. Now I really believe the rap game is gonna end up like disco if this bullshit of music keep reaching the music charts!
    June 22, 2008 3:50 PM
     

    nonononot said:

    Ice-T, realize that this 17 year old BOY is making music for children. He had a song on his album about his report card for goodness sake. Of course it's wack to you Ice-T, it's not for you. Do you go "fu*kin Sesame Street is wack! All them songs Ernie and Burt is singin' is wack", I certainly hope not. And having your TEENAGE son speak for you, doesn't lend much to your masculinity.
    June 22, 2008 3:51 PM
     

    breakdownbeats said:

    @nononnot

    Sesame street today is wack!!  It was cool back in the 70s when they had Issac Hayes on it. When they had Richard Pryor and Bill Cosby on it.  That shit is wack today too.  Ever since Elmo became the most popular, that shit jumped the shark.  Bring Sammy The Snake back.
    June 22, 2008 3:58 PM
     

    breakdownbeats said:

    And if you don't believe me.  Look who got the most votes... ELMO.. http://www.jumptheshark.com/topic/Sesame-Street/Sesame-Street-General-Comments/1767
    June 22, 2008 4:06 PM
     

    sugsworth said:

    I have to go with Ice T on this one. Back in the day there was a word in the rap community that no one wanted to be... a sellout. It was not cool to make a song that was STUPID just because you knew it would sell to the white people. This is basically how soulja boy became rich and famous... as a sellout. He is not the first and sure won't be the last. Nas said hip hop was dead... he was being nice and not name dropping on those that really killed it.

    http://sugsworth.googlepages.com/4sale
    June 22, 2008 4:27 PM
     

    tabs said:

    Right or not about S.B., Ice need to calm the fuck down.  If it's garbage, then that shit will fade away.  You don't see nobody talkin' 'bout bringing back Vanilla Ice.  Let that shit ride, O.G.  The lil' nigga will be broke b4 he's old enough to drink anyway.
    June 22, 2008 4:33 PM
     

    vinneymac said:

    i think soulja boy killed hip hop... and if i had a voice that could be  heard throughout the world i would say it loud just like Ice T. You must keep your artistic integrity.
    June 22, 2008 5:16 PM
     

    TheLight said:

    Well said IllSeed.
    I think Ice-T was wrong for singling out Soilder boy as having single handedly killed hip hop, and I think he was wrong for telling the young man to eat a dikc. I'm totally opposed to everything soilder boy puts out, and I dont see how it can be called music, especially hip hop. But Ice-T being the "adult" and the "wiser" person in the situation I think he shouldve had more sense than to come at him the way he did.
    The guy is like 12, he's just a kid so of course the stuff he puts out is going to be nonsense. As far as those who said they like his music because they think its good for the kids...do you know what he means when he said he "supermanned that hoe"? If you did I hope you would think twice before letting your kids fill their minds with that garbage. I agree with T on that note, it is garbage, he called it like he sees it.

    “You was wrong for that. Think about it in my shoes. This time last year I was poor as f**k. I was in the hood, I was in the ghetto. If what you [were] living is true, you would understand where I’m coming from…I’m 17 years old, I worked hard for this s**t. Even if I got all this off one song, you should be congratulating me. Real talk, you should be telling me congratulations young brother, get your money. That’s what you should be saying, instead of 'eat a d**k.'”----That's probably the most intelligent thing this guy will ever say, and I agree with him on that note, he was just doing the only thing he knew how to do that would get himself out of the ghetto. I think its sad that this young man's only way out of the ghetto is to parade himself around like an idiot, a modern day chicken george, for the amusement of our caucasian counter parts while contributing to the further degredation of a people. And what's even more sad is that he did all of that for chump change.
    June 22, 2008 5:17 PM
     

    BlackPeople 1 said:

    y'all slow.

    this ain't ice-t vs soldier boy.

    this all black music lovers who stomach turn when they see or hear any of that dumb.

    ice t just happend to to be the one that they asked.

    ask anybody with a solid foundation in (or a respect for) black music.

    you'll get the same response.
    June 22, 2008 5:31 PM
     

    Lis880 said:

    I'll just solve everybody's problem and order the hit on souljah boy.
    June 22, 2008 5:47 PM
     

    fizzroy said:

    inner ear07 said

    fizzroy-

    You are the corniest nigga on this site (And that's saying a lot). Did you just say that you were going to run me off this site? lol!!

    Take your lame ass to sleep, you probably running up ya mama's electric bill.

    lol @ this dude saying that he's gonna run me up off this site, like it's the turf or something. I'm just gonna call you corny ass nigga.

    ______________________________________________________

    yeah iam the corniest nigga on here..but you the chump responding to me...you sucker ass nigga...

    nerd ass nigga using parenthesis..and got the nerve to call sombody corny...what type a nigga still say..this aint your turf..grease lighting ass nigga..the nigga said turf..i bet you walk around with a switch blade in your back pocket..and it aint even a knife its a comb..you bitch ass nigga..

    i bet you walk up to niggas and say gimme five..and they leave you hanging..and laugh in your fucking face..

    you gay ass nigga..we all see the guy tied up in your avi..what type a nigga even entertain having a tied up man associated with him?

    nigga you sweeter than a 10 pound bag of sugar...and everytime i see yo punk ass on here..iam gonna lift your skirt..pussy
    June 22, 2008 5:50 PM
     

    When Keeping it Real Needs to Stop | The Kaos Effect said:

    June 22, 2008 7:05 PM
     

    Coma said:

    Applauding!

    ILLSEED:
    "More articles like this that cross age gaps for ALL of those the love Hip-Hop...8 or 80."

    peace, peace
    June 22, 2008 7:10 PM
     

    CLASSICBEATS513 said:

    ice is wrong 4 that eat a dick comment he took it way 2 far wit that but he is right as far as the point he was trying to get across
    June 22, 2008 7:14 PM
     

    b-girl said:

    The whole thing is laughable.
    June 22, 2008 7:30 PM
     

    Markez EO said:

    Let Soulja Boy be Soulja Boy. I'm just waiting for his polar opposite to come along. NEW GENERATION STAND UP! please?
    June 22, 2008 7:33 PM
     

    dade_made said:

    old school got schooled by the new school, wisdom comes with age and it seems Ice t missed that session. i fucks with Ice and true soulja boy shit is corny but jit telling the truth, let em eat... i dont know one nigga that got shot off of that superman bullshit... so let it ride aint nobody gettin murked dancing. it aint forever so deal with it. this is the time when true emcees break through if you really got shine you can be found in the dark so stop complaining and get ya game up...
    June 22, 2008 9:37 PM
     

    Ike1220 said:

    He's single handedly trying to kill this l dudes DREAMSSSSSSSSSSS. Wake up peeps. The end is nearing or is it just the beginning. So you choose your own future, don't let another unhuman like, no mind of your own choose for you.
    June 22, 2008 10:40 PM
     

    Theyztenz said:

    Soulja Boy done superman'd Ice T.
    June 22, 2008 11:25 PM
     

    gargameljermel said:

    Damn did anybody read this article or did yall just skipped it and started posting?

    Everybody on here above my post has taken some sort of side in this instead of looking at the bigger picture of this music we love.

    I'm 29 and of course to some of yall thats old but at the same time even though Soulja Boy's not my cup of Henny I can't knock it cuz it is what it is in Hip-Hop now.

    We're dealing with a still very young art form and probably have crossed the first generational gap and this argument will continue to come up until the end of time.

    So when my 9 year old son asked me to put some soulja boy on his ipod I went ahead and did it but to my surprise he heard me listening to The Message by Grandmaster Flash and asked if I would put that on his ipod too. (He heard it on one of those animated movies and dug it.)

    So stop freaking out over this non-beef and taking sides with young or old. If you don't like souljah boy's sound don't knock it  (I just quietly shake my head in disbelief) but I let my kids get they superman on. I guess I'm old now but I still and forever will love Hip-Hop just show your kids that this is not just what Hip-Hop is.
    June 23, 2008 12:20 AM
     

    m_breezy22 said:

    man..ice -t borderline hating..nah f#@k that he is hating ..he better stick to his chick coco and let soulja boy do his thing...us black ppl gotta stop tryn to comment on others who have innovative ideas on getting mula..there plenty to go around...tell ice t to go solve another law and order crime...now thats some gay ass shit..fucking thug now police detective aint that a bitch
    June 23, 2008 12:25 AM
     

    Knowl said:

    @   breakdownbeats
    Co sign Hip Hop=art form. You want to make money, play lotto. Sales don't impress me, Lryics and beats do.
    June 23, 2008 12:57 AM
     

    KINGPHILIP47 said:

    DUDE!!!  This is the shit that I've been preachin to niggas.  hate on soulja boy all you want and how he killed hip-hop, but everything that goes around comes around... meaning... it was trash out then and its trash out now.  But just b/c trash gets light shined on it doesnt mean ppl are losing their minds.  ini the words of Scarface, "every dog has its day."
    June 23, 2008 1:57 AM
     

    DETROIT RED said:

    I HAVE TO SAY BEING A HIP-HOP FAN.  I DIDNT AGREE WITH ICE-T 4 JUST CALLING OUT SOULJA BOY AND HURRICANE CHRIS.  THERE IS MORE TO IT THAN THOSE 2.  DEM FRANCHIZE BOYZ SUCKS.  A LOT OF MUSIC MADE NOWADAYS IS WHAT I CALL SIMPLE RAP MEANING ANYBOYDY CAN FIND A DECENT BEAT AND MAKE A SONG.  IN 10 YEARS WHO WILL REMEMBER SUPERMAN DAT HOE AND HEY BABY OR LEAN WIT ROCK WIT IT.  I LIKE HIP-HOP THAT I CAN PLAY YEARS FROM NOW AND IT STILL SOUNDS GOOD.  THE MAJORITY OF HIP HOP OUT TODAY I WONT LISTEN TO NEXT YEAR.  AS FOR ICE-T HE IS AN OG, I STILL BUMP COLORS, 6 IN DA MORNIN, NEW JACK HUSTLER LISTEN TO THOSE SONGS AND MAYBE SOME OF THESE NEW JACKS MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE A GOOD HIP HOP RECORD.  SO THIS GOES FOR ALL THOSE CRAPPY AZZ RAPPERS.  FIX YOUR STYLE AND YOUR MUSIC OR U WILL BE OBSELETE IN 10 YEARS.  
    June 23, 2008 2:05 AM
     

    J. Mark said:

    Man, this is exactly what's wrong with Hip Hop now.

    The young generation (mine) don't wanna listen to rappers like Ice T (even though I could better respect Rakim or Big Daddy Kane or even ICE CUBE comin' at Soulja Boy over him) because he seems like he's "hating." The older generation acts like their shit was never bad and don't support the few good artists in the game because a damn KID decided to make a dance song and made money through the game WITHOUT EVER CLAIMING HE WAS A SERIOUS RAPPER.

    Granted, Soulja Boy sucks, but does anyone realize when he made "Superman" he was about 15 or 16 years old? By the simple fact that he was born in 1990 should give everyone some perspective about what his mind was focused on at about that time.

    My God, can't anyone admit that you'd put some shit out like that if you knew you'd sell over 3 million RINGTONES and get the fuck out the hood? You're either lying when you say no, or you maybe you should be the next Hip Hop elite.

    He can't respect Hip Hop because record companies and execs don't respect it and to a certain respect, the artists don't either. All Soulja Boy did was make a damn dance song, and the whole world blames a 17-year-old for the death of the game? That just doesn't make sense to me.

    What if Soulja Boy comes out with some really thought-provoking shit on his next album or when he's say ... 21? Let the young artists breath and do them.

    At the same time, when is someone, anyone going to be young and change the whole game? The older Lil' Wayne got, the more Pop he became (same with KanYe West). Joe Budden is 27 or 28 and writing classic-like material, but he can't sell or even put an album out for GOD KNOWS WHAT (love Joe Budden's music too, but damn, it's been five years). T.I. can only do so much lyrically. He's real so his stuff is still good.

    50's almost 30, but he's following trends instead of setting them (vodicker in hand: "woah woah woah woah woah woah). Plus he hates on everyone that's good and hated on NaS even when he went Plat on Hip Hop is Dead. Lupe Fiasco is that dude, but went took MONTHS to finally go GOLD and is too complicated for some. Plus he claims his next album will be his last =(

    What I'm getting at is, where is the next generation's legend? I don't see him. The 80s had a plethora of classic artists. The 90s, my personal favorite because I lived through all of it, had a variety of legendary MCs from different coasts and viewpoints.

    But today? Shit, the best album to come out in 2008 to this point is Bun B's II Trill and AZ's Undeniable!
    The old heads have a point: most of today's "hip hop" is ass and I, for one, am tired of seeing the NaS, Jay-Z, AZ, Bun B, Talib Kweli, Common, OutKast and others shit on the game without someone NEW threatening the throne!

    Oh, I forgot. The young too busy being sensitive about it instead of being better lyricists.

    Hip Hop is so fuckin' dead.
    June 23, 2008 2:33 AM
     

    nonononot said:

    @breakdownbeats

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    June 23, 2008 2:46 AM
     

    nercity07 said:

    fizzroy

    ---------

    And the conry shit keeps coming.

    I respond to funny ass niggas because they amuse me. And you amuse me nigga.

    Your name is "Fizz"..how gay is that? About as gay as telling somebody "iam a run yo bitch ass off this website..punk"

    Go to summer school young nigga. For real, I don't want you in jail, dead or acting this dumb when you get older.

    And you better not be over 17 typing this dumb shit either.

    Damn our youth is just fucked up.
    June 23, 2008 2:54 AM
     

    kingadambrad said:

    it means ice-t aint got nuthin better to do than fuck with kids

    i lost all respect i ever had for ice-t with his beef with soulja boy
    i agree soulja boy is wack but dont be a hater if people like him then people like him dont hate

    im 17 myself and if i saw some 50 year old nigga coming at me i would just laugh and tell that muther fucker to go back to the retirement home

    June 23, 2008 2:54 AM
     

    kingadambrad said:

    it means ice-t aint got nuthin better to do than fuck with kids

    i lost all respect i ever had for ice-t with his beef with soulja boy
    i agree soulja boy is wack but dont be a hater if people like him then people like him dont hate

    im 17 myself and if i saw some 50 year old nigga coming at me i would just laugh and tell that muther fucker to go back to the retirement home

    i agree with soulja boy on one thing though if u think hip hop is dead then revive it urself dont hate on people tryin to better themselves and get out of the hood

    if u a legend like u say then revive it

    June 23, 2008 2:54 AM
     

    kingadambrad said:

    it means ice-t aint got nuthin better to do than fuck with kids

    i lost all respect i ever had for ice-t with his beef with soulja boy
    i agree soulja boy is wack but dont be a hater if people like him then people like him dont hate

    im 17 myself and if i saw some 50 year old nigga coming at me i would just laugh and tell that muther fucker to go back to the retirement home

    June 23, 2008 2:54 AM
     

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    June 23, 2008 11:46 AM
     

    Mic Terror said:

    Ice was wrong in how he said what he said but he was right in saying it. Someone needed to say something about the way these wack ass rappers are ruining the culture. Like KRS Said "50 years down the line you can start this, and we'll be the old skool artist" Souljah Boy better learn that when he's a Souljah man he's gonna be mad cause Hip-Hop went techno (the way everyone is rockin the autotune) Souljah boy didn't kill hip-hop he just twisted the knife in it's dead body the radio stations killed hip-hop
    June 23, 2008 12:25 PM
     

    Mic Terror said:

    I was readin through the posts and for all yall older cats that know what Real Hip-Hop is about, don't lose Hope The Younger Generation listens to Lil Mama and that Lil Girl is the Truth! IMO there is no rapper out right now better than her, and I'm not including Jada or Ghost, who come out and go back into hibernation I'm talking Lil wayne Boozie Hurricane Souljah Boy. Lil Mama will smack all of em...I said it. Even Wayne. That chick is the best female rapper since MC Lyte and the best of these "Lil" rappers out right now. I like Maino too but I don't put him in the same category as the rest because Hi Hatas was just to get these candy rap listening muthafuckas to open up their ears
    June 23, 2008 12:43 PM
     

    DUBZ01 said:

    i could give a fuck about both of them.
    June 23, 2008 1:15 PM
     

    Uncle_Cornbread said:

    Thats right Ice, go hard on these niggaz monkey wrenchin the game.
    June 23, 2008 3:02 PM
     

    cbo29 said:

    Just like I still bump music from the late 80s and 90s til this day, I doubt I'll bump anything from this era (at least the dance sh*t) 5 years from now. If i could give any advice to the young cats trying to rap these days, quit rushing with these 100% hook laden tracks and stop making sh*t that sounds like the next man. You wont last in the game that way. I mean, he's good for now, but I dont see soulja boy being around in the next few years unless he grows lyrically and musically. If he comes with this same sh*t two - three years from now, he'll be looked as a joke, and his career will be over at age 20. And if meaningfull music ever starts dominating the airwaves again, these cats wont be able to change with the times. they wouldnt be taken seriously.
    June 23, 2008 6:14 PM
     

    HaitianSavvy said:

    Soulja Boy did not single handedly damage hip-hop. He was assisted by a handful of classless acts who claim to be d-boys and trapstars instead of artists. Ice-T's message should ignite soulja boy's desire to become a better artist. He should be in the studio with a pen and a pad instead of sitting in front of a camera disrespecting a veteran because of his age. That's immature, you [soulja boy] will be 49 years old to one day if God blesses you with that opportunity. Soulja Boy, I'm not here to hate on your success because I do command you for your business savvyness but you would be a fool to think that financial success equates to greatness.
    June 23, 2008 9:25 PM
     

    odoggz said:

    Ice didn't have to come at dude like that, but in all honesty, I HATE that crap that is called rap today!  Rap is JOB to souljah boy, he's confessed that in his video, that's why she sucks, and will do whatever it takes to make catchy, non-relevant crap for the airwaves. His brand of rap sucks and is what destroyed the industry, but souljah boy alone couldn't do that. Coon rap was big, many jumped on the bandwagon, it crashed like the economy.
    Start a hiphop school? Did he suggest that to Ice? Let's see Souljah boy put up his time and HIS OWN HARD EARNED cash to get crips and bloods to stop killing each other in the streets, stick out his neck to end black on black gang violence, like ICE did! Fuck a hip hop school!  How you think all these rappers get opportunities to be on TV and in movies, ICE was right there doing that too.  Ice's body of work is relevant, he's timeless.  Souljah boy, like Ice Cube said "they'll have a new nigga next year". You get no credit for using rap to get out of the ghetto, especially if you just put out jiggaboo crap. It's supposed to be an art form. That's why rap sucks and Ice T is right, to a certain degree.
    June 23, 2008 9:51 PM
     

    S:M:C24 said:

    No, Soulja Boy isn't single handedly killing hip-hop, but he is in the front of the pack that is killing it. The corny shit kids not much younger than me are listening to is ridiculous. It's scary to watch dudes like him kill something I love without anyone saying anything. That's why I appreciate T speaking up. Now, I just wish a dude like Hova, Nas or Kweli would speak up too.
    June 23, 2008 11:59 PM
     

    gunjahsmoke said:

    I PULLED UP AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT THE OTHER DAY BUMPIN REASONABLE DOUBT, AND THERE WAS A OLDER CAT ABOUT MID 40'S PULLED UP IN A LIL RED CIVIC OR SOME SHIT LIKE THAT LISTENIN TO SOULJA BOY THE SUPERMAN SONG POPPIN AND SHYT.  I THINK THAT WAS A FUNNIER SIGHT THAN BOTH OF THERE LAME AZZ BEEF VIDEO LOL.  THE NEXT TIME I SEE SOME SHYT LIKE THAT IMMA LIC SHOTS IN THA AIR AN GIVE EM A HEART ATTACK LOL
    June 24, 2008 5:46 PM
     

    KINGDONG said:

    FIRST THINGS FIRST! ICE T WASN'T WRONG FOR VOICING HAS OPINION BUT HE WAS WRONG FOR THE "EAT A DICK SHIT". I CAN'T SAY I HATE SOULJA BOY BECAUSE HE DOING HIS OWN THING HIS OWN WAY SO I CAN RESPECT THAT. BUT I GOTTA SAY AT LEAST 60% OF THE SHIT HE MAKE IS NOT HOT LIKE THAT. I WILL SAY KEEP DOING YA THING SOULJA BOY BECAUSE ANY NIGGA CAN AWAYS GET BETTER. AND ONE MORE THING! HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD BUT ITS LIKE IT IS LYING IN I.C.U JUST TRYING TO SERVIVE. WE NEED SOME DOCTORS AND NURSES TO BRING THIS SHIT BACK TO LIFE. JUST MY OPINION!!!!!!!!!
    June 25, 2008 12:05 AM
     

    curtis75black said:

    Look at it this way, back in the day Run-DMC had us rappin' "U Be illin", LL Cool J had us rappin' "you Can't Dance", Fat Boys had us doing the Twist and had us rockin "Wipeout" with the Beach Boys nonetheless. As well as Ice-T in those Breakin' movies and JoeSki Love's video, Hip Hop was fun back in the days. One of the reasons why most artists can't get any run because of the "seriousness" of ourselves. We look back and laugh but love those old songs because it brings us back to the time when Bills and children wasn't a issue. This is Soulja's time to do him. Am I a fan, Hell no but you can't shit on him when you did the same.
    June 25, 2008 1:12 PM
     

    Hip Hop Is Alive & Well said:

    What makes people think that only the kids by records?Who's buying all of the records that we grew up on and those rappers are still putting out music today!That's what's killing Hip Hop!You never get too old to like the music that you like!Plus Hip Hop is 30 plus already,so I don't see that as being very young!Another 20 years and that would be 50 something years that Hip Hop has been around!If Chuck is 49 and cats like Common and Jay are in their late 30's then I definitely think that Hip Hop is not strictly youth driven!If so then LL would've been a wrap after Walking With A Panther!Peace!-Will

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    June 25, 2008 3:22 PM
     

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