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Lawyer Calls For Hip-Hop “Morality Clause" In Contracts

Monday, August 24, 2009 9:30 AM | 96 comments
By Ismael AbduSalaam

Lauren Raysor, the attorney responsible for prosecuting rapper Remy Ma, has called a press conference today (August 24) New York challenging record labels to curb the violence in Hip-Hop culture.

 

Raysor will use the press conference to request that all labels create a morality clause in their contracts, which means an artist’s deal would be terminated for any acts seen as objectionable to society.

 

Two years ago, Raysor represented Makeda Barnes-Joseph against her former close friend Remy Ma (Reminisce Smith).

 

Remy was sentenced to 8 years in prison on assault, illegal weapon possession, and attempted coercion after shooting Joseph in the abdomen.

 

According to a representative for Raysor, the “morality clause” concept would not be a device to target Hip-Hop artists, but a contract item to ensure all musicians consider the career ramifications for any violent acts.

 

"Lauren P. Raysor is asking all record companies to insert a 'morality clause' in their contracts with all artists, not just rap and Hip-Hop artists, as a way to show them there are consequences for their actions,” the spokesman said.

 

Accompanying Raysor will be Nicole Bailey, principal of the Learning Tree Multi-Cultural School.

 

At press time, attorney Raysor also plans to present an extensive timeline displaying all the major violent confrontations pertaining to Hip-Hop artists


Comments

 

Infamous Markiss said:

Whatever!!!  Make Rock, Pop and all other musical artists do the same.  Yup, those grown kids from High School Musical, that kid that was singing on the cereal commerical, them too.

Add in all other entertainers and politicians too.  As a matter of fact in Pre-K, make everyone sign a morality clause for all future decisions.  Heck they can even use red crayon!

August 24, 2009 9:33 AM
 

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August 24, 2009 9:39 AM
 

coughdrop said:

2009 AND White people still think we are all animals that listen to hip hop unbelievable. black folks we need to start policing ourselves and get the stupidity out of the culture not white people telling us what to do and fuck that  BLACK PEOPLE STARTED HIP HOP and we allowed others folks in so don't think im on any racist bullshit but black people we have to start doing what we need to in our community.
August 24, 2009 9:39 AM
 

Lawyer Calls For Hip-Hop ???Morality Clause" In Contracts | Hot 108 Jamz said:

August 24, 2009 9:45 AM
 

HOT97 said:

HOT97 SAYS:I agree, and its not even about Hip-Hop, its a Job thats these Artists have, and if they are going to be in and out of Jail then they should be terminated, just like any other Job....

Just like T.I AND all these other people, Going to Jail and getting locked up should not be a way to boost your Career...
August 24, 2009 9:49 AM
 

IM_READY said:

Damn tho, We (Blacks) used to own HipHop, i guess thats what happens when we let white America take over our shit, corporations rip all the benefitts and change the rules of the game. Next time we start another trend or fashion, we better keep it to ourselves or let them join as long as we stay running the head offices as well.
August 24, 2009 9:52 AM
 

Stand_Alone said:

I am no fan of needless violence, but THIS SHIT IS THE DUMBEST FUCKING THING I'VE EVER HEARD!

"an artist’s deal would be terminated for any acts seen as objectionable to society"


Dont we have the "justice" system for such situations? Now labels have to police too?

If fucking up the well being and freedom of your life wont make some people fall back, this stupid ass contract clause damn sure wont.

If you gonna do that shit, question these labels for signing artists that promote and/or perpetuate violence. Thats the real issue!
August 24, 2009 10:01 AM
 

Above All said:

Will never happen...
August 24, 2009 10:09 AM
 

Lawyer Calls For Hip-Hop ???Morality Clause" In Contracts | Hot 108 Jamz said:

August 24, 2009 10:10 AM
 

Lawyer Calls For Hip-Hop ???Morality Clause" In Contracts | Hot 108 Jamz said:

August 24, 2009 10:10 AM
 

Lawyer Calls For Hip-Hop ???Morality Clause" In Contracts | Eight Mile Road said:

August 24, 2009 10:12 AM
 

TwoUpTwoDown703 said:

this is pointless.

just another way to lock-up niggas trying to do good.

August 24, 2009 10:12 AM
 

dc-bws said:

GOOD...CAS HIP HOP IS A JOKE RGHT NOW THIS "CONTRACT" SHOULD BE FOR ARTISTS WHO ONLY HAVE VIOLENT CONTENT SAY LIKE 50 CENT...ARTISTS LIKE NAS WHO RAP ABOUT POLITICS ETC AND DON'T CURSE AS MUCH ARE FINE CAS WE WE GET PEOPLE CURSING IN EVERY ASPECT OF THE MEDIA...BUT THE ARTISTS THAT ABUSE IT NEED TO BE CUT OUT CAS THEIR CRAP ANYWAYS.
August 24, 2009 10:20 AM
 

curtis75black said:

If I was 15 years younger, I would be on some 'Fuck This Bullshit' shit. Nowadays, of course I don't feel that way. We have too many of our emcee's dying over silly shit, too many of our emcees being jailed for acting Like they have to stay a certain way in order to have or respect !!  Our sports peeps are dealing with the same shit and you see, once they fuck up - suspended. I don't necessarily agree with taking away your livelihood but no one is above the the same law I would be crucified for and not given a chance to recify my life while you just jump back in the booth to spit bullshit.
August 24, 2009 10:21 AM
 

westside_zone4_adv said:

That would be the final nail in the coffin for record labels... No nigga gonna sign nothin tellin them they cant do shit like the niggas in the hood doin. Then what they gone lie(rap) about then.

Plus if your a T.I or 50 cent, do you really need a record label or do they need you???
August 24, 2009 10:24 AM
 

Tye-Banks said:

I have to agree with infamous Markiss

You better be ready to do with everybody then, regardless of their career status. Record labels aren't going to do that anyway, why would they?



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August 24, 2009 10:24 AM
 

BIGEAST76CIDE said:

IT WONT WORK CUZ AS LONG AS AN ARTIST CAN MOVE UNITS THEN THEY WILL ALWAYS HAVE A HOME PERIOD! JUST LIKE IN PROFESSIONAL SPORTS THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A TEAM WILLING TO TAKE A MICHAEL VICK OR A BIRDMAN (THE REAL BIRDMAN IN DENVER) BECAUSE FANS DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT MORALS THEY PAY TO COME OUT AND SEE THE PLAYERS/STARS. ITS ALL ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE IN THE WORLD AND A LAWYER SHOULD KNOW THIS ALREADY. HER ASS IS TRIPPING...
August 24, 2009 10:33 AM
 

Tek617 said:

Yeah this is a publicity stunt...record labels cant control what nobody does....morality clause? so would that include song content as well? so as long as you kill people ON WAX it's ok??! GTFOH
August 24, 2009 10:45 AM
 

dirty$ said:

HOT97 said:
HOT97 SAYS:I agree, and its not even about Hip-Hop, its a Job thats these Artists have, and if they are going to be in and out of Jail then they should be terminated, just like any other Job....

Just like T.I AND all these other people, Going to Jail and getting locked up should not be a way to boost your Career...


its like every green moon i  AGREE WITH HOT 97. music is a career just like any other job. if you start taking away this clowns money, i bet they str8ing up and fly right.  this would be good for music

alot of people want to turn it into a race thing. man WHITE america has always been behind hiphop. russell was the only one at the beginning who had his own thing.  even jay today has some1 he has to anwser to. and guess what, he aint black. (check the line in we run this town)  

i will tell you one reason why this wont work.  

MOST LABELS ONLY HAVE MAYBE 1 CASH COW ON THEIR LABEL. FOR EXAMPLE,   T.I IS THE CASH COW ON ATLANTIC. THEIR ARE NOT GOING TO DROP HIM FROM THEIR LABEL CUZ HE WENT TO JAIL AND WHEN HE COMES OUT, HE SIGNS WITH ANOTHER LABEL AND THEN OUR DUMBASSES BY INTO THE PRISON CRED AND HIS STOCK TRIPLES FOR ANOTHER COMPANY. WHO WILL ATLANTIC FALL BACK ON. ITS NOT LIKE SPORTS, WHEN A TEAM LIKE ATLANTA CAN MOVE ON IN A POSTIVIE WAY WITHOUT THAT DUMBASS VICK.  THATS 1 REASON WHY THIS WILL NOT WORK.

IN ORDER FOR HIP HOP TO CHANGE, WE THE FANS, MUST STOP LETING AN IMAGE RUN HIPHOP.  WHAT I MEAN IS, A RAPPERS IMAGE IS SELLING MORE THAN HIS SKILLS.  I.E PLIES
August 24, 2009 10:51 AM
 

mu$h da great said:

a morality clause.....really?

from a buisness standpoint it wouldn't be lucrative for them to do  that....


August 24, 2009 10:52 AM
 

rholli01 said:

yall who dont agree with this is ignorant. As a public figure you have a responsibility to society. Its been that way since 1777. Read the constitution. Im suprised this hasn't been done already.

Music is a universal language. Black people dont own hiphop...you can argue all day who created it. Yes, We are noted as making it mainstream and blowing it up. you all should be thankful for what our talents have allowed us to do. Black people made sooooooo much progress with this tool of success but that doesn't mean you can do what ever you want.

Its not like they are targeting rappers. The prosecutor said record labels as a whole have to adopt this clause and it is mandated to all genres. I support it 100%.

Hiphop is no different from any other media. When grand theft auto came out and that kid in LA stole a car shot some people and was trippin he was quoted, "the video game made me do it" they sued the company and have a clause on video game makers to cool it out. Same thing with tv and radio. You can just do what you want.

My hood is fucked. basically off the strength of rap music. I was in a cipher the other day at the park and here come some little kids i mean 10 yrs old talking about sex, drugs, alcohol, violence, shooting, crazy shit. Why because this is what they think rap music is. Now, tell me if thats ok. Some people say oh we are rapping about our lives and where we come from. First, not even the rappers are really living like everything they say. Second, everybody in the hood is not gangsta. Third, who the fuck is out here knocking heads of the back of necks for lack of respect. choppin people up leaving them in ditches.

c'mon now, enough is enough. I rap but not like that. what ever happend to empowering and sending a message.
August 24, 2009 10:56 AM
 

KingAcie said:

Ya'll must be ignorant...first I understand what she trying to do, but second why should any artist glorify something that is negative? A lot of rappers talk about shit they never done, rappers talk about their struggles but came from working class family...Once a artist commit a crime they go to the booth and talk about it, like they trying to prove something gain something...why is it whenever a rapper or any artist get arrested they always mention to the judge on how they gave to the community or they help  charities out...to get a lesser sentence...soon as they get probation its back to glorify their crime...like come on now some people just dont learn....I guess their not enough  positive stuff to  talk about so lets dumb down and continue talking about the negativity
August 24, 2009 10:58 AM
 

Jesus727 said:

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August 24, 2009 11:13 AM
 

tizzletizzle said:

The last 2 niccas at the bottom are tripping. Yall must not be a rapper or understand the rap game. Why the fuk would I sign a morality clause? Do senators have to? Do politicians have to? If I break a law, 90% of the time I don't do the shit to get notoriety for it. U think T I did that shit to get more fame? It mite've turned out that way but that wasn't his intention. Sometimes shit happens. With or without this clause shit go pop off like it always does...It wont happen b.c point blank, labels lose money and artist instantly. That's not go happen...in that case make pre k's sign the same clause like the person up top said and then soon as u do something wrong for the 1st time, u get put out of school for life.
August 24, 2009 11:16 AM
 

HOT97 said:

dirty$ said:
HOT97 said:
HOT97 SAYS:I agree, and its not even about Hip-Hop, its a Job thats these Artists have, and if they are going to be in and out of Jail then they should be terminated, just like any other Job....

Just like T.I AND all these other people, Going to Jail and getting locked up should not be a way to boost your Career...


its like every green moon i  AGREE WITH HOT 97. music is a career just like any other job. if you start taking away this clowns money, i bet they str8ing up and fly right.  this would be good for music

alot of people want to turn it into a race thing. man WHITE america has always been behind hiphop. russell was the only one at the beginning who had his own thing.  even jay today has some1 he has to anwser to. and guess what, he aint black. (check the line in we run this town)  

i will tell you one reason why this wont work.  

MOST LABELS ONLY HAVE MAYBE 1 CASH COW ON THEIR LABEL. FOR EXAMPLE,   T.I IS THE CASH COW ON ATLANTIC. THEIR ARE NOT GOING TO DROP HIM FROM THEIR LABEL CUZ HE WENT TO JAIL AND WHEN HE COMES OUT, HE SIGNS WITH ANOTHER LABEL AND THEN OUR DUMBASSES BY INTO THE PRISON CRED AND HIS STOCK TRIPLES FOR ANOTHER COMPANY. WHO WILL ATLANTIC FALL BACK ON. ITS NOT LIKE SPORTS, WHEN A TEAM LIKE ATLANTA CAN MOVE ON IN A POSTIVIE WAY WITHOUT THAT DUMBASS VICK.  THATS 1 REASON WHY THIS WILL NOT WORK.

IN ORDER FOR HIP HOP TO CHANGE, WE THE FANS, MUST STOP LETING AN IMAGE RUN HIPHOP.  WHAT I MEAN IS, A RAPPERS IMAGE IS SELLING MORE THAN HIS SKILLS.  I.E PLIES


HOT97 SAYS:Well said...
August 24, 2009 11:20 AM
 

HOT97 said:

 
rholli01 said:
yall who dont agree with this is ignorant. As a public figure you have a responsibility to society. Its been that way since 1777. Read the constitution. Im suprised this hasn't been done already.

HOT97 SAYS:I so agree...No matter how talented you are, its unfair and unethical to reward an Artists for their wrong doing...There is nothing debatable about it...
August 24, 2009 11:22 AM
 

Lawyer Calls For Hip-Hop ???Morality Clause" In Contracts | Hot 108 Jamz said:

August 24, 2009 11:27 AM
 

HOT97 said:

 
BIGEAST76CIDE said:
IT WONT WORK CUZ AS LONG AS AN ARTIST CAN MOVE UNITS THEN THEY WILL ALWAYS HAVE A HOME PERIOD!

HOT97 SAYS:I so disagree.Thats the problem it should not be about "PUSHING UNITS" its about setting an example to your followers, and thats why rappers are doing the most anal things these days, because they think that they can do whatever they want because they push units...

.With a "Morality Clause" in effect Rappers will have not choice but to do the right thing..And if they think that they can move from one label the next, then they cant because it would be under the same "Morality Clause" to not hire an offender..

Point is it would help the Music because it will keep most rappers in the booth and not have then creating different soap opera's just to sell a record...And it is not about what they rap about its really about how they act in public or in private...

Its a Job and like any Job you are should be expected to hold up certain standards...I AM ALL FOR IT
August 24, 2009 11:30 AM
 

BIGEAST76CIDE said:

I AGREE WITH  MOST OF THESE COMMENTS ABOUT RAPPERS NEEDING TO ABIDE BY SOME SORT OF MORALS CLAUSE AND MAKE AN EFFORT TO TURN THE TIDE FROM ALL THIS NEGATIVITY THATS BEING PORTRAYED BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT ITS NOT GONA WORK BECAUSE JUST LIKE IN HOLLYWOOD VIOLENCE SELLS. ITS ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR ME IN THIS WORLD AND HOW I CAN  PROFIT FROM GOING INTO BUSINESS WITH YOU. IF I CAN MAKE MONEY OFF OF A RAPPER THAT TAPS INTO THE GANGSTA IMAGE AND ALL THESE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TO ME DUE TO THE MARKET FOR THIS BULLSHIT, THEN IM GONA FUCK WITH HIM PERIOD! PARENTS NEED TO RAISE THERE OWN KIDS NOT A RAPPER/ARTIST/MOVIE STAR. DONT TRY AND PASS THE BUCK ON THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DIRECTION OF THE YOUTH OF AMERIKKA. THEYRE JUST SELLING AN IMAGE JUST LIKE HOLLYWOOD WITH ALL THE RAMBOS AND PULP FICTION MOVIES. THE KEY IS DEFINING ENTERTAINMENT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT ITS JUST THAT "ENTERTAINMENT"...RAISE YO OWN DAMN KIDS!!!
August 24, 2009 11:30 AM
 

EST said:

This idea is no different than the morality clauses in NFL and NBA contracts but there's really only one reason why this won't happen in the music industry, unlike pro sports there is no union for artists. Since there is no union there is no structure in place to even bring artists together to talk and eventually vote on the motion. On top of that there are so many labels and if there were a union you would have to have an artist as a union rep from each label from the imprints to the joint ventures, it would be extremely complex and complicated. Now I do appreciate Lauren Raysor, a talented african-american lawyer and motivational speaker for at least bringing this up as an issue but again it's unlikely this will go anywhere. Artists are already circumventing the majors and going the indie route anyway and this may cause that to increase but without a union, you can't have any collective bargaining and without that you can't force recording artists, who are independent contractors and not record label employees, to sign a clause like this if they have zero union protection or representation. The biggest message the people can send to the artists that want to embrace violence is to hit them where it hurts and that's their bank account. Until consumers collectively stop supporting certain artists and kinds of music its like trying to use a 2 x 4 to stop a runaway train. But how powerful can that message be if the consumers are promoting the same ignorance and violence that they want artists to avoid?
August 24, 2009 11:42 AM
 

curtis75black said:

@BigEast,
those movies are an entertainment we all know is bullshit !! It's quite different when you listen Toba Hot emcee with a crazy flow and emaculate production talking about his selling and serving on the streets and then see him in a DVD flashing guns in front of the camera, talking all kinds of shit with his boys backing him up !! Funny thing is, once the heat lands and he gets caught out there or someone exposes his ass for the fraud he is, then and only then IT'S ENTERTAINMENT !!  12 to 18 year old will kill someone if you was to talk about their favorite emcee's nowadays !! An actor can play a thug one day and a priest the next with no issues. Can the same happen to to emcee in the booth?
August 24, 2009 11:45 AM
 

KtruHeaterz said:

 
Infamous Markiss said:
Whatever!!!  Make Rock, Pop and all other musical artists do the same.  Yup, those grown kids from High School Musical, that kid that was singing on the cereal commerical, them too.

..yeah my nigga i forgot they have as much violence goin on as rap lol. STFU nigga you ain't saying shit pointblank period!!

HOT97 SAYS:I so disagree.Thats the problem it should not be about "PUSHING UNITS" its about setting an example to your followers, and thats why rappers are doing the most anal things these days, because they think that they can do whatever they want because they push units...



..you can STFU ALSO!! Ain't no nigga in the game today for being moral they in it to push units AND MAKE CASH!!! Rappers ain't fuckin role models so why people trying to make them one??? If your child looks up to rappers as role model then your bitch ass aint doin what you need to do on the home front!! Bet my kids don't grow up lookin at rappers as role models cuz they got 2 good parents here as role models. Fuck out of here wit that morals clause. All you gonna do is make more rappers who know they can sells units go independent so they cans till say wtf they wanna and do what they wanna.
August 24, 2009 11:47 AM
 

BIGEAST76CIDE said:

@HOT97

YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT INTERSCOPE WOULD HAVE TURNED AWAY 50 BACKED BY DR. DRE BEATS BECAUSE HE WAS SHOT AND A PAROLEE WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO SIGN?? THEY GOT WHERE THEY AT BY MAKING SOUND BUSINESS DESCISIONS AND THAT DEFINITELY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ONE! IF THEY OR ANY COMPANY DIDNT WANT TO FUCK WITH EM, I COULD NAME AT LEAST 100 OTHER RECORD LABELS THAT WOULD HAVE BROKEN THEY ASS DRAWING UP A CONTRACT TO SIGN THEM PRONTO!! WAKE THE FUCK UP, THIS AINT DISNEY LAND THIS IS THE REAL WORLD. ON THAT SAME NOTE THATS LIKE TRYNA INSTALL A D.U.I CLAUSE IN HOLLYWOOD!!! IF THAT HAPPENED 80% OF THE SHIT THAT COME ON T.V WOULD NOT BE ON TODAY...YO ASS IS TRIPPIN...

August 24, 2009 11:50 AM
 

Khdafi said:

@ CoughDrop
      What does whites have to do with this? Lauren Raysor is Black,  "In 2002, Attorney Lauren Raysor served as President of the Metropolitan Black Bar Association"   thats a quote taken directly off her website. What you REALLY have is another Delores Tucker on your hands. so stop blaming all your shit on white people and know who your accusing before you say something.

BTW this shit wont work anyhow.. only your major label rappers would fall into this category anyhow, all your independent label rappers are more like private contractors and would not abide by this rule.  Hip-hop will never be POP music, if they dont like it the way it is, then dont listen to it.
I dont like country music but im not out petitioning to have all country artists take off those stupid hats and rip the gunracks out of their trucks,  I just dont listen to the shit.
 
August 24, 2009 12:03 PM
 

rholli01 said:

If enough people want this to happen it will. I agree about the record companies are not going to be "willing" because of the money they fear they can loose. Its going to take someone courageous to set an example. One record company adopts the clause, put out a great artist, sells records and the rest will follow. point, blank, period!

I say go for it. As big as the major labels are they should not fear at all. If an artist feels they can compete independently while putting out garbage let them. We'll see how far they get. the majority of listeners buy records or listen to the artist with major label support anyway. So what ever is supplied is what will be demanded.  time to supply good music.
August 24, 2009 12:03 PM
 

livewyre10 said:

If any one thinks or even wants this to work your an IDIOT!
August 24, 2009 12:04 PM
 

mu$h da great said:

I agree, music would just flourish more on the indy level......these major companys are not about to allow that to happen if they can help it.....
August 24, 2009 12:04 PM
 

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August 24, 2009 12:09 PM
 

LXA said:

Infamous Markiss said:

Whatever!!!  Make Rock, Pop and all other musical artists do the same.
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Oops! I guess you didnt read the whole article -

"Lauren P. Raysor is asking all record companies to insert a 'morality clause' in their contracts with all artists, not just rap and Hip-Hop artists..."



August 24, 2009 12:12 PM
 

LXA said:

Khdafi said:

@ CoughDrop

What does whites have to do with this? Lauren Raysor is Black,  "In 2002, Attorney Lauren Raysor served as President of the Metropolitan Black Bar Association"   thats a quote taken directly off her website. What you REALLY have is another Delores Tucker on your hands. so stop blaming all your shit on white people and know who your accusing before you say something.
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August 24, 2009 12:14 PM
 

BIGEAST76CIDE said:

@CURTIS75BLACC

I SEE WHERE YOU GOING HOMIE BUT TRUST ME AS SOON ONE OF THESE BUSTERS MUTTER A WORD ABOUT "SLANGING OR BANGING" ITS ENTERTAINMENT FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, PERIOD! HOW MANY REAL NIGGAS YOU KNOW PUT THEY DIRT OUT THERE AND DRY SNITCH ON THEMSELVES??? I THOUGHT SO. THATS WHY I RESPECT NIGGAS LIKE NAS CUZ HE WAS JUST RAPPING ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AROUND HIM WHILE YOU GOT NIGGAS LIKE OFFICER RICKY SPEAKING ON KEYS OF COKE AND NORIEGA OWING HIM FAVORS AND SHIT. AS SOON AS ONE OF THESE FRAUDS TALK FROM A FIRST PERSON PERSPECTIVE ,ITS ENTERTAINMENT PERIOD!! REGUARDLESS OF FLOW OR DELIVERY MY NIGGA, MY NEPHEW IS 8 AND HE EVEN KNOWS THAT RAPPERS ARE JUST MAKE BELIEVE (AS HE CALLS IT) IF A NIGGA IS 18 YEARS OLD AND BELIEVE THIS SHIT BECAUSE NIGGAS GOT RHYME SKILLS AND A BUNCH OF NIGGAS IN THE VIDEO CO-SIGNING WHAT A RAPPER IS SAYING BY BOBBING THEY HEADS IN THE VIDEO OF SAID RAPPER THIS NIGGAS NEED TO BE WEARING A HELMET AT ALL TIMES CUZ THIS NIGGAS GRASP OF THE REAL WORLD JUST AINT THERE YET, AND THATS SAD FOR A NIGGA OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL WITH A DRIVERS LICENCE, DAMN!!
August 24, 2009 12:14 PM
 

LXA said:

HOT97 said:

HOT97 SAYS:I agree, and its not even about Hip-Hop, its a Job thats these Artists have, and if they are going to be in and out of Jail then they should be terminated, just like any other Job....
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You dont need to say, "HOT97 SAYS"... it already says that you said it
August 24, 2009 12:19 PM
 

livewyre10 said:

RACISM PLAYS A HUGE PART IN AMERICA! if you dont think so then you are very naive!
August 24, 2009 12:22 PM
 

M. Burmy said:

You mean this bitch Lauren Raynor is still alive?  I thoguht Papoose and the rest of 'em got her murked (as well as that Makeda who SNITCHED in the first place!)

Hopefully nobody in the camp is SCARED?
August 24, 2009 12:27 PM
 

HOT97 said:

 
KtruHeaterz said:

Infamous Markiss said:
Whatever!!!  Make Rock, Pop and all other musical artists do the same.  Yup, those grown kids from High School Musical, that kid that was singing on the cereal commerical, them too.

..yeah my nigga i forgot they have as much violence goin on as rap lol. STFU nigga you ain't saying shit pointblank period!!

HOT97 SAYS:I so disagree.Thats the problem it should not be about "PUSHING UNITS" its about setting an example to your followers, and thats why rappers are doing the most anal things these days, because they think that they can do whatever they want because they push units...



..you can STFU ALSO!! Ain't no nigga in the game today for being moral they in it to push units AND MAKE CASH!!! Rappers ain't fuckin role models so why people trying to make them one???


HOT97 SAYS::Thats the mentality that most Hip-Hoppers have...GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD RAPPERS ARE ROLE MODELS...Whether you like it or not They are the biggest ROLE MODELS..Why don't you get it?
August 24, 2009 12:37 PM
 

filthyrich32 said:

Okay let me get this straight.  I will sign a contract as an aspiring Artist that states "I cannot cuss"  I cannot slap the shit out of somebody"  If i'm caught speeding I get ?Dropped from the label"
If I have a baby out of Wedlock I get dropped.

I mean where does it STOP  Would If Movie Stars had to do this
What if Rock Stars had to do this
What if Faggot Republican Senators had to do this all their GAY SEX SCANDALS
What if JAZZ Musicians had to do this

Didn't Jerry Lee Lewis marry his half sister That's Illegal Period

What these knuckle heads have been doing is WRONG!!!!!  

But tell that Faggot Headline Grabbing Asshole to LOBBY For  THE PUBLIC OPTION IN THE HEALTHCARE PLAN AND TO LOBBY FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN EVICTED FROM THEIR HOMES LOBBY FOR CHILD CARE LOBBY FOR JOBS FOR DISADVANTAGED AMERICANS
LOBBY TO BRING THE TROOPS HOME LOBBY FOR THE REBUILDING OF NEW ORLEANS

PRICK









August 24, 2009 12:38 PM
 

the_great_are_gone said:

ofcourse the white man gets the blame for some ignorant shit...

here is a thought... stop shooting each other.

It's not the white man that keeps the ghettos poor either, the people in the hood keep dealing drugs, robbing each other, killing each other, y'all need to take responsibilities for your own deeds. Stop trying to play it off on other people.
August 24, 2009 12:39 PM
 

HOT97 said:

 
livewyre10 said:
If any one thinks or even wants this to work your an IDIOT!

HOT97 SAYS:We are idiots for wanting some kind of Regulations in Hip-Hop...As fucked up as it is now, you dont want change? Let me flip it on you, lets just say that your favorite rapper is so good and he or she cant keep themselves out of trouble, then they get locked-up, now you have to wait ten years till they get out of jail, so that you can get more music from them...

Point is its not even about the rappers its about the Fans as well..Whats the point of having skills if your spending have your life in jail where your fans cant hear from you?
August 24, 2009 12:42 PM
 

HOT97 said:

 
the_great_are_gone said:
ofcourse the white man gets the blame for some ignorant shit...

here is a thought... stop shooting each other.

It's not the white man that keeps the ghettos poor either, the people in the hood keep dealing drugs, robbing each other, killing each other, y'all need to take responsibilities for your own deeds. Stop trying to play it off on other people.

HOT97 SAYS:So true...Its starts from within..How dare you ask for respect when you cant even respect yourselves...?
August 24, 2009 12:43 PM
 

RayStantz said:

I applaud chica but i think she is wasting her breath. We need an overhaul of the whole system; anyone still trying to justify the garbage that gets pushed on the consumer is naive. WTF does racism have to do with holding yourself to higher standard, pointing out those other genres and doing nothing to help hip hop. Shit just needs to get back to being diversified. I personally know i've copped less than 10 albums this decade, this music been weak except for a few. I get tired of defending hip hop sometimes.


Niggas are still doing whatever's in their power fucking up everything for black people. Why we ain't calling them out on that instead of yelling racism about a black women asking for hip hop tp be cleaned up? SMH
August 24, 2009 12:44 PM
 

HOT97 said:

filthyrich32 said:
Okay let me get this straight.  I will sign a contract as an aspiring Artist that states "I cannot cuss"  I cannot slap the shit out of somebody"  If i'm caught speeding I get ?Dropped from the label"

HOT97 SAYS:Yes...
But you think its okay for you to go to see your favorite rapper and get shot the face just for being at the wrong place and time?
August 24, 2009 12:47 PM
 

HOT97 said:

 
RayStantz said:
Niggas are still doing whatever's in their power fucking up everything for black people. Why we ain't calling them out on that instead of yelling racism about a black women asking for hip hop tp be cleaned up?

HOT97 SAYS:I agree
August 24, 2009 12:48 PM
 

Grumpy said:

As soon as Congress, Politicians, Pro Sports and Fortune 500 execs. signup...

I mean, the former VP shot a dude in the face and dude apologized to HIM for 'being in the way'

You want to install Totalitarianism, then it's everyone or no one

Til then...
August 24, 2009 12:59 PM
 

Jesus727 said:

Click the link at the bottom to see how a 17 year old makes $2,549 per week from One single YouTube video!

http://bit.ly/SHGCL
August 24, 2009 1:13 PM
 

GreasySurpreme said:

well - this ain't nothing new. Just who's going to stand up and do something to combat it? Oh yeah KRS -1!!! he's the hope )lol)
August 24, 2009 1:15 PM
 

GreasySurpreme said:

Cursing is apart of what made this shit what it is today!!!
August 24, 2009 1:16 PM
 

GreasySurpreme said:

freedom of speech going straight down the drain.
August 24, 2009 1:16 PM
 

LordOfMikawa said:

This shit will never pass. I will always believe that anyone who takes negative music to heart is a moron. Yeah I listen to gangsta rap but it is NOT okay to shoot and kill people. Our youth needs a better understanding of what to do and what not to in society.
August 24, 2009 1:25 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

@ Infamous Markiss

------------------
IF YOU READ SHE SAID ALL MUSICIANS AND ARTIST, NOT JUST RAP. PLUS IT IS NEEDED, BECAUSE THESE FOOLS NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DO RIGHT AND STOP DOING DUMB SHIT, LIKE SAYING SYRUP IS GOOD ON TV LIKE LIL WAYNE WHO HAVE KID FANS.
August 24, 2009 1:37 PM
 

JakeDaGreat777 said:

IM PISSED
August 24, 2009 2:07 PM
 

JakeDaGreat777 said:

IM PISSED
August 24, 2009 2:07 PM
 

HOT97 said:


LordOfMikawa said:
This shit will never pass. I will always believe that anyone who takes negative music to heart is a moron. Yeah I listen to gangsta rap but it is NOT okay to shoot and kill people. Our youth needs a better understanding of what to do and what not to in society.

HOT97 SAYS:You just dont get it Hip-Hop effects us all..Unconsciously we follow everything that rappers do...They say drink Crystal we drink Crystal..They say Drink NUVO and or Patron we drink it..Diddy got a Mohawk now every dude and kids is wearing Mohawks...Rappers do attract the attention of alot of people.... When they sell millions, where do you think these millions are coming from? The same millions of people who are trying so hard to live through the Artists...
August 24, 2009 2:10 PM
 

carlitov said:

some of you are absolutely shortsighted when agreeing with instituting this clause. you are not seeing the forest because of the trees. we as people keep passing the responsibility for making change on to corporations and lawmakers. just think about the abuse of power this would bring. matter of fact visualize this clause in effect in the early nineties.

there would be no Jay-Z because of Reasonable Doubt, no Biggie because of Ready to Die, no Nas because of Illmatic, and we would have damn sure have never been exposed to any of Tupac's works etc...

getting into trouble and going through justice system hurts more than enough. look at TI's situation. the dude had ensorsements with Chevy and Budweiser. he was at the top of his game before going in. do you think he's not thinking about how much money he's missing with a year stretch? but the real question is, how much do you blame dude? how many of you smoke weed? how many of you wouldn't stock up on guns after your closest friend gets murdered in front of you whether you're a felon or not? this article pertains to Remy Ma. sure she took it to the extreme, but it was an honest reaction. it wasn't because she was a rapper. you all know the story. that chick she shot took more than a grand from her. that's a beat down waiting to happen waiting to happen regardless. look at  most of the situations where rappers have been in trouble. you'll see that they were reacting as people not because they were trying to be rappers.

NBA, NFL, MLB, etc... only get away with that bullshit because they are pretty much monopolies. do you want to see this clause used in the worst way? look at Michael Vick and what he has to go through.  he's done 2 years for his crime locked in a box. he paid for his crime. why would he have to pay for it more in his career?

those of you endorsing this because of kids need to get a reality check. it's not the rappers failing you. it's the parents. they watch and listen to it with their kids these days. you can catch a 5 year old watching rated R movies in any given household. the parents don't give a fuck anymore. they curse around the kids. smoke with them in the room, and barely ever correct them. a kid shouldn't even have access to this type of stuff. everyone of you have some family like this. i know it. and when you walk in on it, you don't say shit.

you all know that this is a political move by this lawyer. first and foremost, they should be addressing the moral aptitude of the police, judges, and politicians in that town before ever addressing music. police can wrongly beat down or shoot a man unnecessarily and get off scott free even with video evidence available. if they can come back to work, why not a rapper?
August 24, 2009 2:20 PM
 

HOT97 said:

 
GreasySurpreme said:
well - this ain't nothing new. Just who's going to stand up and do something to combat it? Oh yeah KRS -1!!! he's the hope )lol)

HOT97 SAYS:Someone said it before..Let me paste it......

 
rholli01 said:
If enough people want this to happen it will. I agree about the record companies are not going to be "willing" because of the money they fear they can loose. Its going to take someone courageous to set an example. One record company adopts the clause, put out a great artist, sells records and the rest will follow. point, blank, period!

I say go for it. As big as the major labels are they should not fear at all. If an artist feels they can compete independently while putting out garbage let them. We'll see how far they get. the majority of listeners buy records or listen to the artist with major label support anyway. So what ever is supplied is what will be demanded.
August 24, 2009 2:20 PM
 

KEITH2781 said:

Shit ain't going to never happen and if it did big name rappers wouldn't sign the shit.  They would just start their own label if they haven't already done so.
August 24, 2009 2:22 PM
 

MackSwami said:

FUCK Lauren Raysor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 24, 2009 2:31 PM
 

RayStantz said:

some of you are absolutely shortsighted when agreeing with instituting this clause. you are not seeing the forest because of the trees. we as people keep passing the responsibility for making change on to corporations and lawmakers. just think about the abuse of power this would bring. matter of fact visualize this clause in effect in the early nineties.

there would be no Jay-Z because of Reasonable Doubt, no Biggie because of Ready to Die, no Nas because of Illmatic, and we would have damn sure have never been exposed to any of Tupac's works etc...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is for violent acts not freedom of speech. Any other profession beside entertainment has this so why not entertainers. Are we saying because they can make a good song they are above the law?
August 24, 2009 2:31 PM
 

original b-boy said:

If congress signs up for this I might want to hear what they have to say... but congress has a lot more "morality" issues than Hip Hop ever will have.
August 24, 2009 2:32 PM
 

HipHopDon said:

We ALL Need to POLICE Ourselves
 OR the Authories Will Do It For Us!!!

Knuckleheads that THINK they can bring
 Petty Beefs & Street Sh*t to Clubs
   & Venue Parking Lots Are KILLING
       any live Hip Hop!!!! Handle that
          Sh*t elsewhere IF at all!

SAVE LIVE HIP HOP Before It Is
   Blackballed for GOOD!!!!
August 24, 2009 2:34 PM
 

ewill211 said:

while they at it.....why don't they give them random drug test too.  
August 24, 2009 2:34 PM
 

No.1FlyBoy said:

FREE TIP & FREE REMY MA....FUCK THAT SHIT...MF GONE MAKE DECISIONS GOOD OR BAD & AT THE END OF THE DAY U HAVE TO LIVE WITH THEM. JUS CUZ THESE NIGGAS GOT DEALS IN THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINEES SHOULD NOT BE FIRED...HALF OF THEM CANT BE BC THEY HAVE A JOINT VENTURE. ITS NO DIFFERENT FROM SUMBODY WORKIN AT FUCKIN WAL-MART GET ARRESTED FRIDAY NIGHT MAKE BAIL & GO TO WORK LIKENUN HAPPNED....SAME SHIYT
August 24, 2009 2:55 PM
 

No.1FlyBoy said:

FREE TIP & FREE REMY MA....FUCK THAT SHIT...MF GONE MAKE DECISIONS GOOD OR BAD & AT THE END OF THE DAY U HAVE TO LIVE WITH THEM. JUS CUZ THESE NIGGAS GOT DEALS IN THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINEES SHOULD NOT BE FIRED...HALF OF THEM CANT BE BC THEY HAVE A JOINT VENTURE. ITS NO DIFFERENT FROM SUMBODY WORKIN AT FUCKIN WAL-MART GET ARRESTED FRIDAY NIGHT MAKE BAIL & GO TO WORK LIKENUN HAPPNED....SAME SHIYT
August 24, 2009 2:55 PM
 

GreasySurpreme said:

Yeah whomever said that about rock it does need to go in their clause too!!!!
August 24, 2009 2:58 PM
 

HOT97 said:

RayStantz said:
some of you are absolutely shortsighted when agreeing with instituting this clause. you are not seeing the forest because of the trees. we as people keep passing the responsibility for making change on to corporations and lawmakers. just think about the abuse of power this would bring. matter of fact visualize this clause in effect in the early nineties.

there would be no Jay-Z because of Reasonable Doubt, no Biggie because of Ready to Die, no Nas because of Illmatic, and we would have damn sure have never been exposed to any of Tupac's works etc...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is for violent acts not freedom of speech. Any other profession beside entertainment has this so why not entertainers. Are we saying because they can make a good song they are above the law?

HOT97 SAYS:Amen.....
August 24, 2009 3:03 PM
 

TRUTHFROMDABOOT said:

As fucked up and onesided as half those contracts are I bet half the Rappers out wish they had those claus's already, niggas would be breaking their necks to catch a case to get out of the contract.  But the corporate jerks that run the industry would never allow that to happen because street cred sells....... They use criminal charges as a marketing tool
August 24, 2009 3:05 PM
 

LordOfMikawa said:

  HOT97 said:

LordOfMikawa said:
This shit will never pass. I will always believe that anyone who takes negative music to heart is a moron. Yeah I listen to gangsta rap but it is NOT okay to shoot and kill people. Our youth needs a better understanding of what to do and what not to in society.

HOT97 SAYS:You just dont get it Hip-Hop effects us all..Unconsciously we follow everything that rappers do...They say drink Crystal we drink Crystal..They say Drink NUVO and or Patron we drink it..Diddy got a Mohawk now every dude and kids is wearing Mohawks...Rappers do attract the attention of alot of people.... When they sell millions, where do you think these millions are coming from? The same millions of people who are trying so hard to live through the Artists...


That's the thing. I don't live through somebody else and neither does anybody. I don't follow useless trends or try to be something I'm not. That is what being a free thinking human being is. Instead of trying to legislate morality without making legislators accountable, people should be themselves and not try to copy some coporate image.
August 24, 2009 3:12 PM
 

No.1FlyBoy said:

Chicago2London said:
NO1 FLY BOY FOR QUOTING HOT 97 YOU GET THE BITCH OF THE YEAR AWARD

U GET THAT SUCK MY DICK AWARD FLAW ASS NIGGA. IM COME ON HERE ALL THA TIME NEVER HATE ON ANY ARTIST FOREAL & IF SUMBODY SAS SUM I DISAGREES WIT I KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT OR AGREE TO DISAGREE.

BUT U U JUS A BITCH NIGGA CUZ FOR 1 I CAN TELL U DONT LIKE HOT97 FOR VARIOUS REASONS & NOW U COMING AT ME CUZ I AGREED WITH HER. U JUS A SUCKA ASS NIGGA.....PUSSY

DONT DO INTERNET OR BEEF OR NUN OF THAT SAY SUM ELSE & U WONT GET A REPLY FOR IT
August 24, 2009 3:16 PM
 

No.1FlyBoy said:

Chicago2London said:
NO1 FLY BOY FOR QUOTING HOT 97 YOU GET THE BITCH OF THE YEAR AWARD

U GET THAT SUCK MY DICK AWARD FLAW ASS NIGGA. IM COME ON HERE ALL THA TIME NEVER HATE ON ANY ARTIST FOREAL & IF SUMBODY SAS SUM I DISAGREES WIT I KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT OR AGREE TO DISAGREE.

BUT U U JUS A BITCH NIGGA CUZ FOR 1 I CAN TELL U DONT LIKE HOT97 FOR VARIOUS REASONS & NOW U COMING AT ME CUZ I AGREED WITH HER. U JUS A SUCKA ASS NIGGA.....PUSSY

DONT DO INTERNET OR BEEF OR NUN OF THAT SAY SUM ELSE & U WONT GET A REPLY FOR IT
August 24, 2009 3:16 PM
 

HOT97 said:

HOT97 SAYS: I am done with this...Hip-Hoppers are always crying out for CHANGE and when it comes time to actually CHANGE then they CHANGE their minds...At this point the fans are as fucked up in the head just as much as the Artists and the labels...THE END
August 24, 2009 3:35 PM
 

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AirForceFred said:

1.  Fuck hiphop

2.  Our culture is all fucked up

3.  Thanks to whoever needs to be thanked for the internet, utorrent, limewire, and all that shit....I aint paying to hear about the amount of drugs niggas moved, and niggas wanna fuck every girl in the world....IF HIPHOP IS COMPLETELY OUTLAWED THE WORLD WILL CONTINUE SPINNING

4.  Our culture is dumb and fucked up.....wtf
August 24, 2009 3:51 PM
 

GreasySurpreme said:

BETTER WATCH WHEN A NIGGA TELLS YOU TO SUCK HIS DICK NOW A DAYS THEY REALLY MEAN IT!!!!
________________________________>>>> PROBABLY BEEN WATCHING THAT MOVIE TAKE 'EM DOWN. sUPSpECT--ALL DAY.
___________________________________________________________Her fingers had been cut off and teeth had been pulled in an attempt to mask her identity. However, her body was identified by authorities by using the serial number on her silicone breast implants.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Check that out - who would of ever thought that even when you do that they can trace a bitch by her tits!!!!
August 24, 2009 3:53 PM
 

GreasySurpreme said:

niggas wanna fuck boys too - Do yall believe that everytime a man say girl or woman he is actually talking about fucking a girl or a woman??? Hell nall - niggas are nasty!!!
August 24, 2009 3:59 PM
 

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August 24, 2009 4:17 PM
 

mikeclassic said:

def do the same for all artists. its  not a bad idea but at the same time, I dont think she is on the side of hiphop. Still most importantly , there are individuals who have to move on from a violent past and focus on music. It snot easy to leave a viloent enviroment but i hope more artists use hiphop as a way out. thast the point of the music. you still have foolish peole who think being tough equals being a man.  They feel the need to be hard, and tuning the other cheek is soft.
August 24, 2009 4:22 PM
 

Aries1 said:

I agree with this clause because as a hip hop fan for many years.  When did you here KRS-ONE, Big Daddy Kane,  Schoolly D, and the other old school cats get in some shit.  Some people on this comment panel is saying white people are taking over hip hop.  Well, what the hell are we doing about it?  NOTHING! We sit here talk about it and rap about it and do nothing.  What makes it more interesting is that you look at Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Diddy, Baby from Cash money, Master P, all these cats that have made an impact in the game and took over, ya'll call them sell outs.  But they are doing something that only we talk about.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to get where they are, because actions speaks louder than words.  

 Now, back to the issue at hand here.  I think this clause is not a one sided benefit.  I feel it protects the industry as well as the artist.  Interestly enough, when Chuck D was going for the Def Jam presidency, he made mention of such a clause like this,  we all applauded.  Now it's a white chick that wants to do the same,  and some thinks whites are taking over hip hop? HUH?!! We have to take responsibility for what we create and what we do. We DO have to hold ourselves accountable.  Some rappers came innocence even when caught doing the crime, and yet we excuse it.  COME ON NOW!!! Let this clause pass.  I SUPPORT IT. If we are going to watch each others back, don't TALK, DO IT.  It's either we put a leash on ourselves or someone else will, and this is a good example of this.  
August 24, 2009 4:33 PM
 

cuyahogatalls said:

there should b a clause for wackness!!!!keep turnin in wack shit and ya done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 24, 2009 6:25 PM
 

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Khdafi said:

@Carlitov

"NBA, NFL, MLB, etc... only get away with that bullshit because they are pretty much monopolies. do you want to see this clause used in the worst way? look at Michael Vick and what he has to go through.  he's done 2 years for his crime locked in a box. he paid for his crime. why would he have to pay for it more in his career?"

A: As an example, I could go to jail for a DUI but still lose my job because I got a DUI. I dont see how the Vick situation is any different. Yes he paid his due to society but that doesnt "entitle" him to being able to play in the NFL.  
  I think that the stiffer conduct code in the NBA and NFL have been a good thing, Your holding grown adults accountable for their actions and putting forth the message that  "its a luxury not a right to make millions of dollars playing a game" and that your required to adhere to guidelines to do so.  Its no different to working for the Govt. and being required to maintain a security clearance.  If you get a DUI or do something fucked up you can lose that clearance in a minute, there goes your high paying job.  
    I dont think in the case of hiphop that the conduct policy would work, not that most of them arent fake gangstas anyway, i just dont see the record companies buying into this.  People buy the music the way it is, they have no motivation to change.
     Unlike basketball with Artest fighting fans in the stands, and football with Tamarick Vanover being caught trafficking cocaine between states. Rap is built on such stories and drugs and fighting. Its hard to soil the reputation of something thats built on so many illegal actions in the first place.  Tarnishing rap has already been done with acts like soulja boy,  theres nothing else to really do.
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