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what's up what's up what's up what's up it's your boy Shan gar aka the Pam Mr smash on the radio shouting out all hip
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hop thank you for all the love over the years I love you guys I appreciate everything y'all
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ever have listened to of me um but I most of all just thank you all for your
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support love y'all all hip hop Sean Garrett pow what's good what's good go by the name of DJ thorough AKA thorough
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Zano Bridge To The Streets welcome to another edition of allhip hop.com I got
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a legendary gentleman sitting next to me incredible songwriter well-dressed by the way
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Fashion Icon I'mma just put it out there you know I mean Fashion Icon very talented he's responsible for some of
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the biggest hits ever recorded introduce yourself y what's up what's up it's your boy Sean Garrett man aka the pen pen he
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Mr smash on the radio you exactly now speaking of the pen I see the jewelry game right you got to get a Iced Out pen
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you know what I mean I got a lot of got okay you got one you got that all right you got that was that was what I was
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like known for you know what I'm saying got keep that I have these um Dominic Crest and pens that actually write shout
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out Jacob Jeweler all right Jake Jake Jake you know I write too can I get one
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absolutely there it is all right how can I say no how can you say no you know what I mean you don't all hip hop you can't say no can't I mean you can't but
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you can't you know what I mean now um most people man you know they they look
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at where you are and I know you do a lot of talking about where you are now right but what I like to focus on to start
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with I like to focus on what I call the practices most people they just talk about the Highlight re in a game I like
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to talk about the practice you know what I mean I'm always in the gym exactly I
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like that and what I mean by that is how did you even get started into music like let's let's see go back further than
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that what was being played in your household as a as a as a youngster like that's cuz that's what shaped us whether
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we know it or not man my mom used to play a lot of great
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R&B monsters like man all the way back to like the
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OJs uh Patty Lael Minnie reton the
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commodor um BBY Blue Bland BB King uh
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Michael Jackson of course the Jacksons you know what I'm saying
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um just so many you know just so many authentic
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um amazing artists right Gloria eston um my mom played The Beatles wow
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you know she's just very well-rounded musical person who enjoyed listening
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into music right and it Isaac Hayes Man soul yeah man a lot of soul
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lot of soul right now all of those records you you you speak of and all those artist I remember my mom cleaning
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up the house we used to call it we clean up the house to those type of Records right like Sunday my mom would clean up
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the house to Al Green I Brothers Confunction Yes Rick James you know what
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I mean man and I'll speak for as a DJ I didn't know it but that was starting me
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to that's how I learned music through my mom toage you know what I mean shalomar you know Shing yes you know what I mean
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like andge the barge I knew was the reason you were sitting here man you I
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mean and that those records and those artists they they they shaped me they shaped us you know especially as a
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culture you know black people like we we invented every genre of music whether a
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lot of us don't know that but we from country rock and roll rock and roll especially rock and roll yeah rock and
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roll you know what I mean Calypso dance hall yeah you name it people afro beats
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you name it people of color invented every genre of music you know whether we're dominating it now or not we
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invented it you know what I mean so that was definitely um a big part of uh of who we are as a people you know and it
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goes back to Africa the drums exactly the Rhythm the Rhythm yeah you know a lot of a lot of people don't know man I
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write a lot of songs on drums okay you know what I'm saying so it's just like
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that's the reason why I'm able to you know when you got certain records that's really really heavy from a percussion
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perspective you know I I always like to choose tracks that people don't
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necessarily or wouldn't necessarily hear those type of songs on tracks like that um that's why some of my favorite
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producers to collaborate with like Bangladesh Swiss beats uh
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timberin um man very rhythmic driven artists right or
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producers right now and now I was going to say too I want to I want to commend you on your taste in in writing and
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production because I guess it's simply it all stems from your upbringing yes you know the variety of music that you
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know about a lot of people only create what they know about me so they wasn't exposed to different genres of music
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they want they don't have a range you have a range thank you you know what I mean so is there any that um you feel
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like you can't write for I'll just I'll ask you that no is it a challenge for
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females or is it challenge for males which one is I guess more difficult for you if if at all I don't I definitely
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don't feel like I feel like I've proven the point that I definitely can write for females um you know records that
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were that are dear to my heart uh from a female perspective of Records I did called like girl you know is she the
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um good woman down you know those are soul records you know what I'm saying uh
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Records that sort of you know explain how women really feel in their heart
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right about love and life and breakup and pain um I love the idea of
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tapping into a female um a female psyche a female's perspective right
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um their vulnerabilities right uh
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sometimes you know I like to dive into a female's
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mind right um and say things that I think the world
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want to hear but perhaps that particular female hasn't said it in that way right
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that that's an interesting perspective because I can see you really take your time with your craft like you a lot of
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people don't care about the crap you know the actual um process of music making and becoming one with the artist
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and what and and I noticed that when you write a song you write it but you write it as if it's them so it doesn't even
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sound like it sounds like the artist it's like you wrote it but it doesn't sound like it sound like they wrote it
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if that makes sense like you become one with the artist and let G give you an example there's a
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guy we you all know this record right you ever heard of Rob um Temperon Rob
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tempton one of the great one of the greatest ever ever for those that don't know he wrote arguably the biggest
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record ever Thriller for Michael Jackson Billy Jean Billy Jean Off the Wall um
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rock I want to rock with you but also people don't know he was a white man he's white man and white man he actually
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was in a group and and he was he wor he wrote Always and Forever always and forever
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right incredible this guy I I like this guy you know when I get somebody up here that that that knows music and care
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about the craft that's that's my thing because um a lot of artists they into this music they have no history of it no
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recollection of where it came from that's right how it came to be and a lot of them don't care you know they're
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they're not in it for the art of it you know they're in it to make money like I can look at you and tell you obviously
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were doing music not to make money but you doing music because you care about music it makes you happy it gives you
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some type of therapeutic joy and it comes out in your music it makes me you
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know it really it's inspiring you know I I like the challenge of like trying to
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like every day I'm in the gym you know I'm always trying to do better than I've done before or be inspired by someone
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else too you know I think um you know I'm truly inspired by a lot of the artists that's out today too like right
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I love um you know I would probably say teams is one of one of
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my favorite female vocalist right now okay um I I love Jasmine Sullivan she is
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right one of a kind um I love Koko joneson by the way uh she is she is
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something right uh I love scissor sciss oh my god um I mean beautiful voices
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amazing um am amazing um artist right right you know
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they're able to convey they can touch your heart these girls touching your heart I like it
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summer Walker of course right um what about her love her love her love her
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yeah I did a song with her that's so hard um man it never came out um yet it
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hasn't come out yet right um I love to play you that song but it's
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definitely amazing it's fire it's fire right fire fire right now
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um do you find it I mean so for instance most people they can write for someone
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but when it comes to them doing the music it's a nogo you've been able to
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master being accepted if you will because most people don't accept people that they just want to put them in a box
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you're just a writer yeah when you try to do a record it doesn't always transcend into yeah you know the level
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of the writing yeah I think I think the thing that um people love about my music
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that I do for myself is it's authentic to me you know breakup was uh obviously
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a record that I share with um my brother Mario who's
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man Mario's the Mario I mean shout out to Mario he's probably he probably has
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one of the greatest voices right um he's dope he's dope voes in the world he's definitely he's um he's definitely dope
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you know and speaking of dope you um you have a new single yeah which I qu it's
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called baddy now I'm G to step out on the limb did you go to Houston Texas and you you saw the slabs
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and Slim Thug passed by he like you know what hey man shout out to shout out to the big Slim Thug shout out to Slim Thug
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man you know what I'm saying that you you it's impossible for you to tell me that wasn't Houston influence no that
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defin that was that was definitely I had I had came back from I actually was in Dallas and went to Houston okay um but
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when I came back I wrote baddy you were Badd right it made you write it yeah man
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you soaked up the game shout out to my brother Keys man um who produced that record with me and my brother um do
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shout out big do okay um yeah we you know so yeah you notic we we slid the um
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tipping on say yeah I mean and that you know I'm glad that people really like
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the record um I've been getting amazing feedback from it the video's coming in
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January okay I was about to ask yeah so the video the video is incredible we Shout Out movie okay shout out to um my
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boy Young Young Chang okay um out of Miami had a a amazing time working with
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them his whole crew right um actually his his his partner is from I don't know
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if he's from Brooklyn or Queens but I know he's definitely a a New Yorker right um but I had an amazing time
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working with them videos crazy shout out to my brother uh jaqu who came crazy you
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feel me very talented very talented indeed so yeah man Badd is um it's my
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first single the the new album yeah you know what I'm saying and what's the album called so they know um I I my my team
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don't want me to tell the yet because um it it's definitely um a album that's you
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know very vulnerable album for me but but it's it's it's done in a way that that only I do music what I'm saying for
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me so right okay you asked the question of like you do you feel like people have
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accepted my Artistry my music for me I mean because I I I I
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thank you for for for no that's the observation because I've noticed u a lot of people can write for people like I
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literally noticed it and but when it comes time for them yeah people don't want to hear it yeah I'm going say they
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want to hear it it's not as successful as their writing career you know what I mean yeah I didn't have a um to be very
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honest I never really got a chance to have a fair shot right at it because it was just you know I mean when you got
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records like biggest records in the world um I mean all of those other songs were just
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bigger than life you know so you know I I really take it as a compliment and as
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at the same time you know I always look at it as I got work to do um but I just
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enjoy people giving me their honest opinion about my music you know what I'm saying like that matters to me right
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that's one thing I do I give honors to P I'm never going to tell you what you want to hear yeah I'm going to tell you what you need people like me let's go
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you know what I mean um now don't lie do you ever write something and go nah this
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is for me or are you an unselfish writer like it's what's best who's this best for how how do you approach that um
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sometimes I felt it like that's a great question um I feel that
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sometimes I I I I enjoy being stylistic I feel I consider myself a stylist right
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and so I just like the style on music you know what I'm saying I like to get on there and do that's just not
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conventional so I feel like sometimes some of the other artists they they're not willing to take that chance
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so those are the I keep for myself like this is one record I got on my album that I wrote for someone else
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and I'm like bro why you ain't putting this out and I just seen what you put
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out right like why um but at the same time you know and you know a lot of
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times artists are honest with me they just they might say hey I don't know this just not me right and it's like uh
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it's not you once your voice is on it's you it's you you know what I'm saying um and it's just
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like I think people really need to artists need to really understand what being an artist is about right and being
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an artist is like just articulating a song in your own way
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there's been artists great artists that's covered other songs that's done probably a better job on that song than
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the original right you know what I'm saying so it's just like if you understand that part then you understand
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you know for all of the younger people that are artists that are watching this keep in mind that you're
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always going to need a hit song to continue the journey right right so it don't matter where you get the song from
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you know just perform that perform to the best of your ability and tear right
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now this is something people may not consider as a songwriter
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um how do you deal with artist how do you deal with rejection because I'm sure you've given
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records to people ideas um songs and you may have thought it was the greatest thing and they was like nah I don't like
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it how do you how do you deal with that or and then how do you convince them when you know this is record for them
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and if they just try it it'll work I can definitely say there's been a few
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artists that's missed it missed the B you know what I'm saying missed the and and you see you know it's hard to sit
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back and watch it's like damn you you know you missed on this one you know what I'm saying and it's just like if
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you understand me it's like you would want to get in with me right it would just make sense even if
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it ain't a record that we do that you put out the experience I feel um I I
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think another thing that people don't know about me is the fact I'm a great um
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vocal producer okay so I know how to make records sound good sound good right from the perspective of like pushing the
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artist vocally um right I'm always trying to do things
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that I don't think they would do for themselves right you're a true producer I mean there see there's a difference
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between people that make beats and then there's people that produce it's two different things yeah I produce songs
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you know what I'm saying so it's from a perspective of you know taking different
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elements and ingredients and putting it into something that can be unique right right and so you take that unique voice
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and you put it on something that they wouldn't normally get on and that's that's when the world that's that's when
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the world appreciate you you know what I'm saying I feel well they definitely appreciate you I mean um a discard ify check real
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quick You've Done songs with Usher Fergie Sierra Beyonce Kalise I mean it
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goes on and on and on and on you know and someone may look at that and
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go how was he able to even get in touch with these people how was he able to get
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the G to the attention of their ear you know what I mean because that's a once in a-lifetime achievement you know
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everybody don't reach those type of Milestones you know and you got your first record deal when you're 14
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right did you know that you were going to be writing for people was that your mindset how did that how did that
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channel how did you Channel off until okay I'm writing for someone you know what's
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funny I was approached to write songs for other people because I came back to the States and I was actually my deal
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fell through Warner MH um just like they just changed the whole regime over Atlantic that's exactly what happened to
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me when I was um and you know our
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deal was on my deal was on the table um my anr was going to sign me right um but
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then the change happened right and so then I was approached you know I started shopping
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around this five song CD of all of my songs as an artist right and people like
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hey yo do you ever thought about writing songs for other people as well it was one individual or a collective of people
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it was a collective right and it was almost like they were asking me to do that and I just was hellbent on not
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doing it I was like hell no right I don't write songs with other people I write songs for myself right so but
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little did I know and that's the whole point about life you know what I'm saying you learn you grow and right then
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I started getting these offers like I got a deal offer for three 300,000 one
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for 500,000 one for 700,000 make you change your mind there I was like they going pay me that much money to write
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some songs for people right I was like and then you know unfortunately I had lost my mom and my mom used to always
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man thank you um and she used to always say you know baby don't ever put all
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your eggs in one basket you know what I'm saying you're you're really talented you should and I that stuck with me you
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know and so when you lose your when you lose your your heart you lose your mom
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um you you tend to remember everything that she taught you right everything you remember everything she said a lot of
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things that she said I remember when I was like four years old um and I was just talking to my aunt the other day
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who's like my second mom and she basically was like you know you was always a very
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sensitive kid right like things matter to you that didn't really matter to
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people right and I think that really was a big part of my ability to
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tap into emotions and you know also with the fact that I am Pisces so very
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intuitive um and I I generally take people seriously you know what I'm saying I've always been like a serious
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person so um tapping into people's emotions and their true feelings right
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um is something that I feel like I didn't know I had that gift but right
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obviously at this point I realize it now right okay now um You Pinn what what
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some would say Usher's biggest record right which is yeah yeah right now what I what I'm curious to know about because
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I know obviously there's a process to writing um did you hear the beat to Y
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first and then you were able to write yeah or you already had it written for him like how dides that play out yeah
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that that particular song Because pety Pablo if I'm not mistaken had that beat first people don't know that yes PD
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Pablo had that beat first that's exactly right yeah um and so did I didn't know
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that um well yes I originally wrote that song
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and demoed it and did you know the Lil J screaming parts and all that [ __ ] it was
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just like they thought I was really crazy it like you have to be crazy to be
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that's a great point you have to be crazy to believe in something somebody else can't see yeah you know or is that crazy is that crazy think about the guy
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that invented the telephone he said hey I wish I could talk to somebody that's not here that sounds crazy right you
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have to be crazy yeah I mean you know but I'm very careful with the word crazy because you know to most people crazy is
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a negative word right right and that's a very positive word for me I think it's creative to be crazy yeah you know you
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can't have limits you can't be you can't be doubtful um another person that used to really inspire me is Mike Tyson Mike
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Tyson um okay I I I sort of fight like that in music like he fought in the ring
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right um okay so I always found him to have such a
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courageous like you look at Mike when he was 20 you know he already you could
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already see in his face that he had already won the fight right his energy spoke that right and he was just trying
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to take him take him his head off right and so that's that's me man my Approach my Approach is always like
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right okay very like intentive right okay so back to this teachable moment
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I'm trying to have here let's do it with the with the year record Usher so you okay you you pin the record I'm assuming
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you had the beat you did the yelling and screaming over the beat you know was funny I I couldn't even get any I
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couldn't even get Beats from Lil John right that's crazy right um you know shout out that's hard to imagine though
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but it happens it was crazy like his team was like uh Lil John don't do um he don't do he don't do r music he do crun
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music right I was like yeah I know let me let me get some of them beats though because my idea was you know I was going
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to do a Michael Jackson song on a crunk beat on a crunk beat and I always find
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you know little unique ways of creating that
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differentiates me as a creative right um
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also that process was a very like intense process because it was you know
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the song was done quickly but the process of getting him to getting user to cut the record right that's the part
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selling the record to him selling the record to his team selling the record to uh and and and at the same time uh shout
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out LA Reid who actually gave me the opportunity to actually work with Usher and uh cut the record right um it was
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such a process man um I I knew that if I could get him to cut that record right
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then right so what did you literally have to say to him for him in order to him to even attempt to cut the record
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being that he didn't he didn't see the vision according to what you're saying right he didn't see the vision well yeah I think you know because shout out uh
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Jermaine PRI I mean when when when artists have like a relationship with a
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sound and people that help them get there you know it's hard to break that
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right I get it I get it it's like if it don't if it ain't broke don't fix it that's kind of the motel everything was sort of set up already like I think burn
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was supposed to be the first single off the album confessions that was dope too yeah it was very very dope but in my
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mind I was just like I don't think I don't think that song is better than you got it bad and you got it bad to me was
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one of my favorite songs right right um I often say that if I wouldn't have I
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would put pressure on myself to feel as if I didn't do a song as good
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as you got it bad I wasn't ready right okay so I would put that pressure on myself to push the envelope to be able
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to not do what that was but do something that was just as good right so um thank
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you Germaine for putting that pressure on the boy you know so it was it was Germaine coaching him saying hey just
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give it a try like I no I don't N I don't think because you know at the time
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you know it's like that's JD you know that's just JD's baby you know what I'm saying it's basically like his artist so
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it's just like I don't think Jermaine you know as much as he may admire me at
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this point right uh I don't think he was like we was on the field so it was it
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was competition comp and he didn't know me like you know what I'm saying so he definitely was like who the [ __ ] like
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what the hell no you know and so it's like you know at the end of the day
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right you know we the song got leaked shout out L John you know what I'm saying um and it was incredible it was
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leaked on December 23rd um 2003 and we came back off of um right
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Christmas vacation and the song was right going super crazy no it was a crazy record cuz I can't imagine someone
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not liking it that's why I'm trying to figure out what the hell did he not like about it because as a DJ in the club
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forget I don't even know who just say I don't even know who Usher is if I hear that record I'm like yo I'm gonna say who's that yeah yeah it's dope so I
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can't imagine him not liking it or what didn't he like or that's the ISS I know
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I'm having a I'm struggling find trying to understand what he didn't get I mean
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and you know from a logical perspective that's logical right right
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but you know your influences man that's influencers that's why
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influencers are winning because you know whoever has influence on you can can
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either can either help you or hinder you you know what I'm saying and look at
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that and say that anyone was trying to hinder him I just think that you know the good thing about him is Usher is a
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person who one thing I got to say about him he gave me 150% when we got in that studio
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it was up like I know when I heard him say peace up a I was like oh now was he on skates in the booth nah he was on no
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skates Dead all okay n he was skating no he you know he was skating on that track
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track was no skate so right okay now um do you have a favorite artist to work
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with so far yeah who's that who's your favorite artist to work y'all know her name ah um that's one of my favorite I I
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must I must admit um Miss NOS Miss NOS Miss NOS uh I love working with a lot of
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different artists too I love working with um Asian artist too um I was actually that range I was talking about
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you got range I was I was actually you know fortunate enough to work with boa who's probably the biggest Korean artist
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ever right um you know she invited me to the MTV Awards we performed right the
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song also on the uh Japanese MTV Awards it was just what I love about working
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with artists outside of Americans is they have a lot more
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respect for you um they're not they're not the type
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you know it's just Enrique glacis took me around the world um we did television shows together right we did performances
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together um videos just just it was just an amazing time to work with people
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outside of what you know that look like me right and they they were all gracious
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right now are there any records out there or songs that you wish you would have
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wrote was what's the song that you like damn I wish I would have wrote that um
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because we all have that I think teams it's Tims sorry
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um her first single the record that she did with uh future I really love that
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record right that made you like that was one of them ones shout out my boy future too man um shout the future yeah man the
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goat um yeah I really love this song um I really love that song that scissor did
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with uh Travis Scott Travis okay oh man I love that track too right okay that
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was that was man great right now I'm sure when you when you when you hear things you wish you would have wrote it
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inspires you to to write that's why I as that that question you know we all get that like damn I wish I would have did
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that I wish so let me go and create something I got to get back to work right yeah you get you you get to work
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now um anybody that's not let's say anybody that's not familiar with your work like visually what video do you
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have out right now that they could go check out that represents who you are that I did for other artists no that uh
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well you will see uh my new baddy video okay uh which will be coming in January
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um that would definitely you know if you go pull up Sean Garett she geek so I pull up in
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that 458 she gigs so so many other [ __ ] on he G you know what I'm saying
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that's that's that's definitely my personality breakup of course right um
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Feel Love is another Side of Me Okay um shout out my boy jcole who laced that
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[ __ ] you know what I'm saying um man it's quite a you know it's quite
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a few songs uh in the box with me and um Rick Ross shout out big Ross boss um was hard just got to Miami
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okay straight out from the gramys you know what I'm saying um I've had a lot of amazing songs man that you know oh
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gripping on the bed right you know the ladies love that song um so it's right a lot there you can go
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check out okay now if anybody watching this up and coming that want to get into music that maybe think they can write
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they think they got a pin a strong pin game right what type because I love to give teachable advice and and moments
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you know to artists inspiring people um because I want this I want good music to continue so I never I never hide
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connects or I share info I like to I like to do that cuz you get better music for sure the type of stuff you want to
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hear you do that um what kind of advice would you offer somebody that's going to come up that's looking to accomplish
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what you've accomplished so far you know I I think that I love being an inspiration to
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people um I feel like you know there's a lot of pointers I'm going to start doing
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this um this seminar called Sean Garrett un I mean excuse me Smash on the radio University okay and basically it'll be
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you know it'll be a place where you can come and actually meet me and hear me talk and give you some tips in reference
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to like you know what makes a hit what makes a what makes a great Unforgettable
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course um right I never forget that when I first took year to La re he said cuz
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the course was yeah yeah short to get down low if you think you ready yeah yeah let me see if you can back up with
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what you told me I could turn you out baby if you let me next thing I knew she was all up on me screaming right and
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and so la said to me he says Sean you ever heard the song called whip
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appeel I was like yeah my mom used to play right um
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and yeah shout out baby face baby face man baby face Indiana Oh my God like one
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of the greatest songwriters now he's the goat right no no he is he's the goat he is um he is he
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should be mentioned more we talking about him now you are right I love you man um I've you know had a number of
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times meeting him you know just sharing great conversation from just one of the
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most amazing songwriters ever right um and so to get back to the story La
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said you ever heard that song Whip a pill it had a it had a story in the
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chorus this chorus doesn't have a a story in it now you know what he's
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asking me to do he's act he's actually asking me to give him the story without
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verses right there should be the story in the chus that make people walk away with the payoff right and so to answer
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your question for advice the chorus must maintain a sense
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of standing alone you should be able to hear a chorus and know the song know the
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song so I ended up changing it from that to yeah yeah shorty got down low and
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said come and get me I got so caught up I forgot she told me her and my girl
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used to be the best of homies but next thing I knew she was all up on me screaming yeah you know what I'm saying
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so basically it you know it's the story is he ended up
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hitting his girlfriend's you know what I'm saying it was one of those nights it's one of
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those nights right oh what a night it's one of those nights it was one of those nights you I like to play I like I want
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I want to play um a hypothetical game it's going to tell me a lot about where you are musically okay all right so I
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say Sean I just produced this record right okay you can put any artist on
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this record it's hypothetical so the artist could be dead or alive from any
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era in any genre music right okay who are you gonna do that song with any era
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any genre music and they could be dead or alive for hypothetical who would you do a song with I would definitely do a
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song with Smokey Robinson wow I would definitely do a mic the mic
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sorry sorry it's all good sorry guys yeah I would definitely
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do a record with uh Smokey Robinson Robinson I would definitely do a record with if I had the
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opportunity with Tina Turner wow um I definitely
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would love to work have worked with John lenen um
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I would definitely write a song for Minnie reton y her octave was [ __ ]
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man like they said she could I wasn't there to witness it but she could break a glass like you put a glass champagne
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glass on the table and when she hit that a whatever the octave I forgot what it's called she could shatter the glass yeah
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I mean that's crazy just such an incredible voice um Marvin Gay of
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course um man that's dope got a chance to work
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with Michael the last year of his life so wow yeah man like what was that like
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because that you just said that like that wasn't a big deal I just got a chance with Michael what was working with Michael like I mean working with
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Michael was like the highlight of my just life it was that was it I was like okay if if I could just hey this it this
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it this him um but Michael man was just really gracious very um very down to
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earth like he was cool as a like just cool like right and we would he would call me every morning man every single
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morning I didn't know that yeah just you know just talking about creating just talking about the type of songs he
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wanted to do um the specifics right um in conversation right um and so like
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that was some like that was that was a highlight of my life right now are we going to ever hear these songs that you
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and him worked on or or are they out there or what's going on I don't know I mean to be honest you know you know
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we don't really control you don't control so let me ask you this how many songs did you guys work on we worked on three you worked on three um wow yeah
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and you know Michael was just man I mean [ __ ] to work with
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somebody that you just I mean it doesn't get any bigger than Mich I don't care what anybody says it just that's it like
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it was like I you retire now it was over with I was like I can go on a got you
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did it I mean cuz I mean come on Michael like who else is that who
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I never even like I I just I have had such an opportunity to work with so many
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amazing artists right um when people there some people I be want to
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help because I sometimes it's like I don't even need to do a song with I just need to talk to them talk to them right
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because I don't think that they're understanding like what they're missing right and it's just like you know a lot
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of other things matter too right it's like what you who you come from who you come up on under um who
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[Music] you there's a lot of different elements that matter you know what I'm saying
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about your success in this game when it comes down to your music and your songs and the type of songs that people are
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going to respond to you can't do mediocre records when you come in on a platform that's up there already right
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right there's a certain expectation that you already have like that you were blessed enough just to have gotten just
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by chance right right and so it's like you can't follow that ball and a lot of times people fumble opportunities right
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it's like there's been a number of times that I could have walked out and I could have like caught an attitude and been
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pissed off about a person's disposition but that [ __ ] never I never allowed any of those I think a lot of times people
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talk themselves out of the money out of the money right you know what I'm saying block the blessings with these like you
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you know a lot of people talk about I'm from the hood I came from nothing just like we all did you know what I'm saying
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we all this is basic basally like first most of us like first you know
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we're first millionaires you know what I'm saying our generation yeah first generation of generation of millionaires
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so how do you you know you already know that we we we didn't come from this you know what I'm
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saying we had to earn it we had to it's bless s and tears so it's just like when you get an opportunity to to to to take
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that shot it's got to be that shot right you know what I'm saying and so I think a lot of you know a lot of people people
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trick themselves off the streets early um right you know they just don't
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take the serious enough like until you have to until you fail right until you find yourself on the bench till you find
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yourself on the Shelf you know what I'm saying it's just like when the world
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when the world looks at you and say damn you fun with the ball right that that
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goes back to what I was saying in the beginning how how how your childhood something as simple as listening to
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music in the house shaped everything everything you know the way you handle things way you deal with
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things right and and and being from D it created your passion yeah man being from the hood is no excuse like what they
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kill me with that like man you know what I'm saying I ain't know it's like that's a record no
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excuse oh I just wrote a song for him let's get it you know what I had this
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um I had this damn uh the mic
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I had this um excuse me I'm sorry my man gonna kill me I'm being I'm not being I'm not being um professional no all um
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I think that the chances you get in life are not guaranteed fact right and so I
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just I think all of those things that you learn whether it be good or bad like those lessons man those lessons are so
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important because you know I always look at it like if I
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miss if I miss this this could be something that I
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could regret right right so I always put it I always look at every opportunity or even if I'm working with a new artist I
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look at those new artists just the same way I look at as Legends right because you never know who it is that you're
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working with you never know who's going to become that next right you know person so it's dope man I could tell
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somebody raised you with sense because I was brought up how my parents they said you treat the janitor like the CEO
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absolutely and that and that's through life absolutely you never know what somebody's going to become or who they are absolutely or who are they
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pretending to be you're treating somebody like dirt and they actually the CEO or so you you treat the janitor like
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the CEO those a fact everybody get treated the same you know I mean most people treat people based on what they
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think they could do for them you ever notice when you meet somebody go what you what you do they ask you that cuz they trying to judge how much respect
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they give you doesn't matter what you do nice to meet you how you doing you read everybody people just not raised like that that's right brother you know what
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I mean so that's my rant for the day all right all right but listen before you get out of here man I got to get your
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top five producers Dead or Alive okay my top five Quincy Jones Rest
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in Peace by the wayes one of the I would say the greatest the greatest the greatest hands
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down hands down the greatest um forel Williams
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Neptunes I'm loving this list already um Timberlin for sure VA in the house yeah
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um Dr Dre for sure oh this guy's dope Dr
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Dre Dre don't get enough credit man um and I I would say
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probably Teddy Riley Teddy Riley okay I love that list I love that list I'm not
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mad at that list I'm definitely not mad at that list you can't you can't you can't M with that so before we get out
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of here man if people want to follow you get in contact with you how can they do that hey man follow the boy man Sean
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Garr the pin man on all platforms um just want to say thank you so much yeah
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thank you for coming through man I appreciate you thank you all for having me I appreciate you know all the love
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I've gotten over the years from New York City from around the world from the hip-hop Community all hip hop thank you
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all for all always showing me love man and um I'm very blessed to still be here
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right going crazy hear me the new single Bad featuring Jack qu you understand
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exactly exactly now before we go anything else you want to speak on a chap up about that we didn't touch on
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hey man um just to all the you know new songwriter producers I meet a lot of you
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guys out in the streets all the time um just stay just stay encouraged right
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stay encouraged right if I can add to that I'll tell them keep keep working until it works that's right because you
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never know you know and not to sound cliche is but man that it'll be that one day that you felt
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like this working right that it starts to work right so consistency man yeah
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consistency all right so that's what it is man I go by the name of DJ thorough let him know the name my name is Sean gar the pan AKA that Blacky exactly and
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like always when you see us one knee us that mean get on one KNE and Kiss the Ring pay respects we out ohoo I got bars
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baby come on write something for me