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Published Friday, December 26, 2008 2:35 AM
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By illseed

MY DAILY TWO CENTS

 

Just letting you all know this are the rumors “lite.” They will be updated periodically and often as can be in the holiday season. Hit me up at allhiphoprumors@gmail.com.

 

 

 

ANOTHER JAY-Z “TAKEOVER” COMING?

 

I have a friend of a friend of a friend that works with Ludacris and they hippped me to something that might go down this weekend.  There is a concert coming out over the weekend in New York at Nassau Coliseum that features T.I., Jeezy, Jim Jones and Nina Sky. Well, I am hearing T.I. is going to have an incredible set, but Ludacris is going to get all the attention. I am hearing Luda is bringing out Nas, Jadakiss, and Jay-Z. The strange thing is that Jim Jones is on the stage the set prior to Luda. Both nas and Jay have an ongoing tiff with J.J. Now, with this whole fight thing at the Louie store in NYC, I am hearing something is about to brew. I heard Jay is going to “address some things” at the concert and needs like five minutes.

 

SIGNS THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END

 

Bruce Jeffrey Pardo = coward. 

You might have seen this, but I am going to let you know anyway. A man gets divorce and he’s very, very unhappy. He’s so unhappy of his marriage dying in less than a year. So, he man dresses up like Santa Claus and pays his former in-laws a visit during their Christmas party yesterday. Bruce Pardo had no criminal record, but ended up shooting and killing at least eight people. He also set fire to the house that was owned by his ex-in-laws.

 

Peep this from yahoo news:

 

The massacre began when an 8-year-old girl answered Pardo's knock at the door. Pardo, carrying what appeared to be a large present, pulled out a handgun and shot her in the face, then began shooting indiscriminately as about 25 partygoers tried to flee, police said at a news conference.

 

Dude shot people and several others were killed in the blaze. Bruce Pardo gets out of his Santa outfit, goes to his brothers house and puts a bullet in his brain.

 

What a loser that dude was.

 

TRAGEDY AT LIL BOOSIE’S HOUSE

 

Apparently, this is all fact. A 2 year old girl was killed after her daddy backed his car over her. They say Boosie often lets the kids come over and play. This day they were looking forward to playing on a trampoline. Sadly her father made a terrible mistake that will probably haunt him forever. They say the father was a friend of Lil Boosie and they have several other kids. RIP. Now some people are saying that is was actual Lil Boosie that ran over his daughter, but I dnt think that’s true.

 

RIHANNA GETS SPOTTED?

 

Seven B., my homey, hit me up and let me know some rumors that strengthen some other rumors that I had about Rhianna and C. Breezy. Peep it:    

 

 

What's good my Obama!!! Mr. Illseed..

 

I just decided to hit you up with a quick siting I know it's not a rumor which is your forte but she is always nestled in your pages. I happened to be out doing some last minute holiday shopping..(Sorry Mr. Diddy). in Richmond,Va. at one of our high end malls that caters to those more fortunate than others. My reason for going there is because I wanted to bless my queen with a little trinket from Louis Vuitton. I go and do my other shopping through out the mall and then on my way exiting I stop in Louie. As I walk in I see a young lady do a little double take as she was coming out but I payed it no mind because I thought she just passed by a bag that she wanted to get a second look at. I go in and look in the same direction as the young lady just to glance at whatever she was looking at. Low and behold I see a tall young lady with some fly a@* boots so my first assumption was the young lady was peeping this other tall young ladies shoe game. Then I continued to glance at this fly boot wearing girl and then I get to the back of her head because she was looking at some ties and I notice a familiar tatoo behing her ear. I say to myself i've seen that before but then I walked around and got a side view and it's none other than the one and only Ri Ri...Ms. Umbrella herself...I guess she was doing like me doing some last minute holiday shopping. I didn't want to bum rush her I played it cool but it was definately her minus Chris Brown I guess that's who the tie was for... I tried to play it cool and go out and get a pic for proof but I didn't want to draw to much attention I even waited in the car for a minute because there was a car in the fire lane a tinted out mercedes with driver that I assumed to be her get away car but after a few minutes of waiting..semi stalking I gave up..(I don't know how the paparazzi does it) but that was my see something say something for today...

 

I don't know if this backs the rumors floating about her and Mr. Brown settling down in the state for Lovers but it does give some fuel to fire that rumor or they could be here for the holidays. Never Know.

 

MORE ON THE JIM JONES SCRAP

 

I was wondering what happened to Ne-Yo in all that mess that went down at the Louie V store in NYC. I heard he was nuts and that Ne-Yo straight up ran away. That’s what I heard and I think there could be some truth to this. I mean, do you expect Ne-Yo to knuckle up? No.

 

I also heard that the fight had patrons and other people high-tailing in out of there like there was a gun that fired.

 

Also, TyTy is the Executive A&R for all of NeYo album (from what I have been TOLD) and he and Ne-Yo are cool friends. Apparently people have started to concoct some Gay rumors that don exist.

 

MIJAC AIN’T DEAD….I just wanted you to know that he is alive and no dying either.

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JAY-Z, WE LOVE YOU!!!


They keep us talking, but if we stop talking about them then they should worry!

-illseed

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Comments

 

Freecode said:

Jay-Z bought Beyonce gifts from http://www.traxnyc.com
December 26, 2008 2:45 AM
 

Ken_Masters said:

3rd or sumshit
December 26, 2008 3:02 AM
 

NapalmSound said:

you should be proud..
December 26, 2008 3:05 AM
 

Ken_Masters said:

i am, u should get a new hoody..
December 26, 2008 3:16 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

Amiri Baraka: The Power of the Word

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not 4 suckaz
December 26, 2008 4:19 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

December 26, 2008 4:51 AM
 

Jumpstreet said:



Its so obvious that that Jim Jones shit didn't happen. They just tryna promote that Takeover show LMAO man Hip-Hop is the worst right now..because now u "heard" that Jay-Z is goin to "address the situation" haha and that right there tells u its all fake cuz he wont do shit its just niggas promotin that shit with a fake ass story.

Plus hd that Jim Jones situation been real he'd be interviewed right now about it because thats how ya do when its breakin news, especially when beef is concerned.
December 26, 2008 5:11 AM
 

Doe A. Fella said:

Hope everyone had a good Christmas.

I forgot to leave my presents for the AHH ladies the other day.

Better late than neva, so here it is!!!!

***Disclaimer*** Do not open this present if you have a jealous man.  Not responsible for a post-holiday domestic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAFy4CS27uU&feature=related



December 26, 2008 5:14 AM
 

Sean Stylez said:

maybe jim will get some excercise i.e. like he did at the rucker
December 26, 2008 6:18 AM
 

BBall_star33 said:

I co sign Jumpstreet 100%...hip hop turning into the WWE!
December 26, 2008 6:21 AM
 

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December 26, 2008 6:30 AM
 

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December 26, 2008 6:39 AM
 

Kappagem said:

Ken_Masters said:
i am, u should get a new hoody..
December 26, 2008 3:16 AM

^^^^^LMAO!!!
Ken, you a fool....
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What's crackin' AHH?

Just peeked in to see what's good here.  Hope you all had a great Christmas.

December 26, 2008 6:41 AM
 

DJ TEKNISION said:

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THE PODCAST THAT'S ON SOME REAL DJ SH*T!!!
December 26, 2008 7:36 AM
 

Professor X said:

lmao @ Ken Masters straight ethering people early in the morning....

lmao, again @ people expecting Ne-Yo to stay and fight at this "alleged" brawl......
December 26, 2008 7:55 AM
 

Melchizodok said:

Jim Jones is trying his hardest to be relevant. Jay is the one you should be target not Ty-Ty. Bad Santa went psyco, Crazy times we living in.
December 26, 2008 7:56 AM
 

Black Aladin said:

every year jay-z is set to get on stage and 'take over' or 'summer jam' somebody...

ill believe it when i see it
December 26, 2008 7:58 AM
 

hotnuknowit said:

Mornin ya'll....
That fake Santa was wild......SMH speaking of myths.....I now know without a shadow of doubt......that Papi Claus is FICTION! LOL j/p...
December 26, 2008 8:03 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

Come on Ill... Eartha Kits passing deserved at least a mention as well....

BUt yea I heard about that crazy motherfucker... shooting an 8 year old child in the face... he's going straight to hell for the holidays...

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December 26, 2008 8:38 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

this mainstream hip hop is trash but if you give an ear to the underground circuit its some nice MCs out there
December 26, 2008 8:51 AM
 

DJGETBUCK said:

R.I.P. Eartha "The Original Catwoman" Kitt.
December 26, 2008 9:00 AM
 

Ken_Masters said:

@ Kap, and Prof X
good looks my ninjas, im glad to c sumone appreciate what ya boy do, its such a art..
December 26, 2008 9:05 AM
 

Quiseebaby said:

Hope everybody had the good Christmas and safe Christmas.
Shout out
Next Gin
KNowl and Meme
RUde
Hiphop
Musik
Savy
Mush
Doe
Z Ro
Kappa
Ken
Black Sean
Hotnuknowit
Illseed
and everybody else i forgot too. Off to the gig I go. Get at ya lata. 2 fingaz
December 26, 2008 9:07 AM
 

Ken_Masters said:

werd doe, i hope everybody Christmas was good, gotta count them blessings as we get closer to the new year
December 26, 2008 9:12 AM
 

Ken_Masters said:


prof X said
lmao, again @ people expecting Ne-Yo to stay and fight at this "alleged" brawl......
----------------------------------------------------------------
yeah man, after he slapped Illseed with that viscous ddt he was ghost
December 26, 2008 9:14 AM
 

kingbaba1 said:

The rumors r good today. I finally made it before 100 on the rumors page!!!
December 26, 2008 9:32 AM
 

poe said:

Jay needs to squash the bullshit beef & attention Jimmy is obviously reaching for. that is gonna be one hell of a concert though.
December 26, 2008 9:36 AM
 

kingbaba1 said:

Ne-Yo is too "clean" to fight. Hahaha!!! Ain't most of them really clean? You know what I mean. Jimmy needs to cut this B.S. out!!! He just needs to focus on making good music like "Pop champagne" and stop all this other crap. I'm trying hard to respet this man, but he's making it tough with this B.S. Illseed, What Up?!!!! Boss Up, What up?!!!! I'm in the building!!! Chi-town reppin. No one threatens!!!! It's me Be.eL.Be!!!!!!! South Side, stand the fuck up!!!!
December 26, 2008 9:37 AM
 

Bill_Blass74! said:

Peace to ALL

R.I.P to Ms. Kitt

After Young Berg posted those gay pics of Ne-Yo, dude should've known he wasn't going to have his back in a street fight,lol.

December 26, 2008 9:52 AM
 

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December 26, 2008 10:12 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL!!! FRESH OFF THE CHRISTMAS FOOD!?!?!?!?!

LAKERS BABY!!!!!!!!!! WHO WANT A PROBLEM?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

FUCK A CELTIC PRDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAJON RONDO I WAS FEELIN THOSE WHITE & GREEN NIKES THO

LAKERS & COWBOYS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHAQ WAS HEATED WHEN DUDE HIT THAT 3

JAY DROP THAT BP3!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET AT THESE NIGGAZ!!!!!!!

CAM KICK THEM DISLYOAL NIGGAZ OUT YA CIRCLE!!!!! WHERE YOU AT NIGGA!!!!!!!!! DROP THAT NEW LP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT YOU THINK NE-YO WAS GOIN TO DO

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.A.P.ANW. LOYALTY, HONESTY & BIG WEALTH

December 26, 2008 10:14 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL!!! FRESH OFF THE CHRISTMAS FOOD!?!?!?!?!

LAKERS BABY!!!!!!!!!! WHO WANT A PROBLEM?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

FUCK A CELTIC PRDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAJON RONDO I WAS FEELIN THOSE WHITE & GREEN NIKES THO

LAKERS & COWBOYS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHAQ WAS HEATED WHEN DUDE HIT THAT 3

JAY DROP THAT BP3!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET AT THESE NIGGAZ!!!!!!!

CAM KICK THEM DISLYOAL NIGGAZ OUT YA CIRCLE!!!!! WHERE YOU AT NIGGA!!!!!!!!! DROP THAT NEW LP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT YOU THINK NE-YO WAS GOIN TO DO

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.A.P.ANW. LOYALTY, HONESTY & BIG WEALTH

December 26, 2008 10:14 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL!!! FRESH OFF THE CHRISTMAS FOOD!?!?!?!?!

LAKERS BABY!!!!!!!!!! WHO WANT A PROBLEM?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

FUCK A CELTIC PRDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAJON RONDO I WAS FEELIN THOSE WHITE & GREEN NIKES THO

LAKERS & COWBOYS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHAQ WAS HEATED WHEN DUDE HIT THAT 3

JAY DROP THAT BP3!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET AT THESE NIGGAZ!!!!!!!

CAM KICK THEM DISLYOAL NIGGAZ OUT YA CIRCLE!!!!! WHERE YOU AT NIGGA!!!!!!!!! DROP THAT NEW LP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT YOU THINK NE-YO WAS GOIN TO DO

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.A.P.ANW. LOYALTY, HONESTY & BIG WEALTH

December 26, 2008 10:14 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL!!! FRESH OFF THE CHRISTMAS FOOD!?!?!?!?!

LAKERS BABY!!!!!!!!!! WHO WANT A PROBLEM?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

FUCK A CELTIC PRDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAJON RONDO I WAS FEELIN THOSE WHITE & GREEN NIKES THO

LAKERS & COWBOYS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHAQ WAS HEATED WHEN DUDE HIT THAT 3

JAY DROP THAT BP3!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET AT THESE NIGGAZ!!!!!!!

CAM KICK THEM DISLYOAL NIGGAZ OUT YA CIRCLE!!!!! WHERE YOU AT NIGGA!!!!!!!!! DROP THAT NEW LP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT YOU THINK NE-YO WAS GOIN TO DO

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.A.P.ANW. LOYALTY, HONESTY & BIG WEALTH

December 26, 2008 10:14 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL!!! FRESH OFF THE CHRISTMAS FOOD!?!?!?!?!

LAKERS BABY!!!!!!!!!! WHO WANT A PROBLEM?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

FUCK A CELTIC PRDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAJON RONDO I WAS FEELIN THOSE WHITE & GREEN NIKES THO

LAKERS & COWBOYS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SHAQ WAS HEATED WHEN DUDE HIT THAT 3

JAY DROP THAT BP3!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET AT THESE NIGGAZ!!!!!!!

CAM KICK THEM DISLYOAL NIGGAZ OUT YA CIRCLE!!!!! WHERE YOU AT NIGGA!!!!!!!!! DROP THAT NEW LP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT YOU THINK NE-YO WAS GOIN TO DO

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.A.P.ANW. LOYALTY, HONESTY & BIG WEALTH

December 26, 2008 10:14 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESS WHERE YOU AT IM IN THAT ASS!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T SAY NUTHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 10:14 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESS WHERE YOU AT IM IN THAT ASS!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T SAY NUTHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 10:14 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESS WHERE YOU AT IM IN THAT ASS!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T SAY NUTHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 10:14 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESS WHERE YOU AT IM IN THAT ASS!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T SAY NUTHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 10:14 AM
 

mu$h da great said:

@hot,hoodgrown,quisee,knowl,ill,tommy k & the rest of my ahh patnas - waz up wit it?


what  happened to that little girl was tragic. condolences to the family & friends.


lmao if that shit about neyo running is true.......


@ ty ty - 0

that is the number of niggas  you need to be cool with that won't help you when your getting jumped.you always see how a mufucker really is built when that preasure gets applied......


December 26, 2008 10:15 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

internet thugs poke ya eye-balls out
December 26, 2008 10:23 AM
 

RHYMEOLOGY said:

'POP CHAMPAGNE' is a good single?fuck outta here...to me JJ will always be a hypeman..can still pictre his lil dance on 'horse and carriage' vid!i bet Killa is regrettin da day he gassed Jimmy up tellin him he can rap!
December 26, 2008 10:24 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

People wake up and start listening to some real hip hop. im tired of these so-called thugs destroying art and even worse the mind
of the young teens and even some of these nut ass adults.


ChrisBo Peace
December 26, 2008 10:32 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

yo.....

u already know....

CBO / im a fool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4us3EtXw-Qs&feature=related
December 26, 2008 10:53 AM
 

D-block 4life said:

what up AHH? long time no see!!
Yo thats wild hommie went and took out half the fam smh.
May GOD be with the dad that ran over his seed.
December 26, 2008 10:57 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 10:58 AM
 

hotnuknowit said:

What up QB & Mu$h?
December 26, 2008 11:00 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

330 fo life

Chino Nino feat. Mob Figaz/ intergalatical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5SQcfP4uUA
December 26, 2008 11:07 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

bush sr, clinton, and obama in 2005

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP7Q_Q22on0&feature=related


and a soda on the side
December 26, 2008 11:12 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:


ampichino feat.chino nino, mysery /blessed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEn3SCsPVuM&feature=related
December 26, 2008 11:13 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

pastor ray hagin:

messed up by religion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqiTu-7ldpA&feature=related
December 26, 2008 11:18 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 11:20 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

FREE PRODIGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 11:21 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

FREE PRODIGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 11:21 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

FREE PRODIGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 11:21 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

"we were trained, not educated.  TRAINED...into religion!"

-Pastor Ray Hagin
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December 26, 2008 11:24 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 11:25 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 11:31 AM
 

Hustlinupnorth said:

Peace and Blessings to the AHH Fam!! Pray everyone had a Christmas filled with good times and fellowship with friends and family. Remember tho, Christmas is the time for celebrating the greatest gift ever given - Victory over the flesh and sin and death. We deck the halls and cook a big ass bird and, over indulge in vainities and humor children's fantasy's of flying reindeer, but this Christmas remember; life is short and precious. Not everyone on the planet gets to do it like us with the decadence and luxury. Pray for them and for us, 'cause remember: At any given moment Santa Clause could walk up in your house and shoot up your family!

Merry Christmas AHH!!!!
December 26, 2008 11:32 AM
 

TheKnowledge said:

Black Aladin said:
every year jay-z is set to get on stage and 'take over' or 'summer jam' somebody...

ill believe it when i see it


^^^co-sign. it's all a promotional game like my man said. Jay is good at those.
December 26, 2008 11:35 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

bone thugs n harmony / first of the month

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpBP9dALcWw
December 26, 2008 11:37 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 11:47 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

whats better than a black woman in touch with self?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UceEZSlC04


"The US constitution said that I am 3/5 human....Thats because I am 2/5 God"


=========

I know beauty when I see it...
December 26, 2008 11:52 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

bone thugs and harmony / days of our lives

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVbeTdDRs4&feature=related
December 26, 2008 11:55 AM
 

WhutTheeHail said:

Takeover 2?

Should be interesting to hear this.
December 26, 2008 11:57 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 12:00 PM
 

lamarrion said:

Wuttup AHH fam
LAKERS BABY!!!!!!!  
December 26, 2008 12:00 PM
 

Hustlinupnorth said:

@ Hood Prophet

Did you see the president of Iran's Christmas address? Is it just me or is this dude seeming less and less insane as time goes on? Maybe it's just that the world is going nuts, so the insane seems sane, or maybe I'm just breaking through the North American mind control and propaganda and listening with an unbiased ear.
December 26, 2008 12:01 PM
 

Knowl said:


shouts to:
Meme_Moon, AJ22, Juanita, Kappa, Just_Rude, Davy Da Prince, Lionesse23, LTbrown, hotnuknowit, Msdallas214, Chocolate1, True Scientist, Likarish, Killa2thaB, ms_espn, VAgogetta, Boss up, Cresent, ZRO_Coldest, Kalibur, GUNOT_17, Hood Prophet, WEST COAST EMT, Mu$h, Jrucker, Willy, Iammcfly, Hemi, MYOPINION, Black Sean, J Dungy, Quiseebaby,HipHopIS Love, Bkrepper, Nex Gin, C_A_K, hustlinupnorth,  Sofi, Blaqman99, B*braze, Lady Drama, Illseed, MD-2-BX VIA I95, Muziknmyheart, TaylorMade_TaylorBranded, DGRUDGE, NYReppin716to718, MaryJanesHusband, Doe a fella & Tommy K (LAST!)
December 26, 2008 12:02 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

hunh,

I aint stingy

black afrikans vs religion...Rd1 (The black woman ovum)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcLQKTsRrI4&feature=related

about 5 parts.



mightest well discuss it in the month of the celebration of the Sun God  (Gods Sun/Son)


aight.  be safe. im in the wind...
December 26, 2008 12:04 PM
 

Hustlinupnorth said:

@ Knowl

Wattup man? Hope all is well in your world and you got to do the family and friends thing for Christmas. Peace and blessings to you and yours! Thanks for the shout out!
December 26, 2008 12:06 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 12:06 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@hustlinupnorth

nah, I didnt see it.  drop it if you got the link.


whats considered sanity here is overrated.

anything outside of the "box" is considered insane.

people label things they dont understand as insane if you think about it.


"follow the norms too long and you become...norm-al"

-me


aight hust, Imma getta outta here.   im sure you still doin the knowledge.  let me know something.  I be back.
December 26, 2008 12:08 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 12:09 PM
 

Hustlinupnorth said:

@HP

There you go with the Zeitgeist "Jesus was a sun god" ish again.

Jesus is the High Priest of the Tabernacle of the the Temple of the Lord, not a sun god.

That's one of those neat little serpent tricks that folks have been using to dilute the message of God's sacrifice.

Jesus is not in Egypt. Though he did say int eh end people would be saying "there He is!" or, "He's over here!" when He is not.

Beware of doctrines.
December 26, 2008 12:11 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

which Jesus are you talking about?

the one created after the council of nicea?

the white one in photos?

or the one who shares a similar story with many gods before him?


matter fact, lets settle this by going to his grave and getting the info ourselves.   where is it located?

or his mother's grave, or any relatives for that matter?

or lets ask the many historians who ignored his existence?

and all other published books outside of the bible during those times.


hustlin, dig a little deeper...


peace
December 26, 2008 12:21 PM
 

Knowl said:

Hustlinupnorth said:
@ Knowl

Wattup man? Hope all is well in your world and you got to do the family and friends thing for Christmas. Peace and blessings to you and yours! Thanks for the shout out!
---------------------
iight, how are thing in the great white North??
December 26, 2008 12:21 PM
 

mu$h da great said:

@taylor - waz up? I know watched that game yeastersday.....
December 26, 2008 12:24 PM
 

Knowl said:

That Laker game was dope yesterday!!!! Glad the celtics lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On the Spurs game, it was good seeing Grant Hill. I want him to get a Ring. I feel bad for how his career played out.
December 26, 2008 12:28 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 12:29 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

hustlinupnorth.

i dont deny the light (sun), pureness, absence of evil, concept of jesus christ

i just dont agree with the interpretation that we are trained to believe.

you can respect that Im sure.

well at least i hope so, cuz if not

I will lose sleep until you do.
December 26, 2008 12:30 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

@ mu$h...

i caught the first quarter bro
December 26, 2008 12:31 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

and hustlin

while we doing the knowledge

i would like your account on what jesus was doing for like 10-15 years between the gap of him being a child and becoming christ.

some say he was is india studying the crafts of bhuddhism.


there does seem to be similarities between ghandi, king, and christ.
December 26, 2008 12:34 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 12:38 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

whatitdo folks?


ay yall, maaaaaan, who really gets sick on Christmas?????

LOL yessssssir, BFG. thats a shame...but its been so long since i been sick, i guess its just my turn. its not the worst sick in the world either and at least im off work while i am. so i wont complain.

2 those that sent me wishes yesterday. luv. (^^^^ thats why i aint respond.)

but so how was everybodys time w/ their luved 1s? i hope joyous.

i hafta say it was a nice day. it was good to see my kids so happy. genuinely appreciative, which they're not spoiled by any means.

but i tried to stay focused on not being excessive in selecting their gifts this year. i wanted to get them things they would actually used long-term & things that would foster their skills and/or talents.

it worked out well.

i truly hope everybody is feeling good and content, in good spirits.


i am super tempted to just take some medicine, which i dont normally ingest, unless u counting the natural earth grown type. ;)

but maybe i'll take some DayQuil 2day, so i can get up and go shopping. they say the sales are off the hook. shoot, i want some Xmas presents too. LMAO

ladies, i know yall feel me on after Xmas day shopping.

i saw Macys got small diamond studs for $99.

WTH?????????

they gotta be tiny. and not that i truly need them. but i had lost my 1 of mine a couple months ago...

awww, nah, look @ these butrflys tho:

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=258916&CategoryID=25364

2 cute. kay ima stay away from there.

but they got my boots at Aldo on sale, finally 2.

http://www.aldoshoes.com/us/women/boots/city-fashion/66799409-bialogarda

dang. i been wantin them 4 a min...





~BFG
December 26, 2008 12:41 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 12:44 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSTm-DcaFTU&feature=related

5 mins in, the pope and others of eastern europe have pictures of black mary and black jesus


why they aint show me that in school?


that aint cool...
December 26, 2008 12:44 PM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

@ HoodPropher

man you Spazzin brotha
December 26, 2008 12:56 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

zapp and roger / more bounce

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjkRp-U0opM

December 26, 2008 12:56 PM
 

EALurking42long said:

Jay-Z does nothing! Nothing is gonna happen, absolutely NOTHING. This isn't 2001. In this day and age, we are SO STARVED for "rap beef" b/c the rap game has turned into a big snooze. Jay went after Jones on the Kingdom Come album, but everyone was into "ballinnnnnnn!" and callin' Hov "old." He responded on "Dig a hole," and had his own version of "ballin" and Jim Jones laughed it off and thanked Jay for giving his song MORE spins, b/c everytime they played Jay's version, they played Jones version in return. So in reality, Jay didn't do anything AND may have lost a few fans in the process, b/c this 'under 21' fan base was riding this "DipSet wave"... Everything was 'DipSet this' and 'DipSet that."

I know these are ONLY rumors, but I don't believe ANYTHING until I see it or hear it with my own eyes. I've been hearing about SO MUCH over the last 2 yrs, ONLY to see SO little. I was hoping Jay went after Wayne, the man goes on tour with him and does a track... I was hoping for a Jay & Nas album, that's never gonna happen... So enough about Jay. Let's put his legacy to rest. Dude will be remember as an all time great, but I honestly think that it's just a new era emerging and we just have to let go. Sadly, we have to watch Wayne be given the crown by default, b/c we're being brainwashed into believing he's SO GOOD, but I'm through with the Jay-Z rumors. I'm just gonna sit back and wait to see if this Blueprint 3 pops off, if not? oh well!... I'm still listening to that mid to late 90z hip hop EVERYDAY... throw on a lil' Joe Budden and I'm good. Fuck today's rap.
December 26, 2008 12:56 PM
 

NelsoNetic said:

First off all happy holidays to all ya'll

Second Illseed can you tell me why Allhiphop didn't review Illa J's record cause i'm listining to it now and it fits perfectly with the whole layedback christmas vibe i am having right now (after some rum and a ''smoke'').

Enjoy life all o y'all
December 26, 2008 12:57 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

Hustlin i didnt think Zeitgeist was sayin that Jesus was a Sun God.

i figured it to mean that the Sun was/is God's son. and then humans interpreted that in a literal sense and designated Jesus as such.

taking ancient knowledge and shaping it to fit a present reality. whenever "present" is. and the cycle continues on forward to "present."

thats how i took it, thats what that meant to me.

i think that the problem i have with religion, generally speaking, is how people tend to interpret things so literally with regards to it.

our reality around us is nothing more than a constellation of symbols, which are open for interpretation. but are most often are just passively agreed upon thru conditioning processes.

like 1 of 2 default beliefs systems that we "believe" to be our only options.  

i believe that most ppl battle themselves back and forth between the 2, at different points in life, esp as circumstances require.

but there are also other alternatives imo.

thats all, i know it wasnt my convo. just caught what u said about Jesus not being a Sun God.




~BFG
December 26, 2008 12:59 PM
 

jmills2006 said:

December 26, 2008 12:59 PM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

@ HoodProphet

Drop some more info if you have time.
December 26, 2008 1:00 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 1:00 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 1:03 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

What it do AHH?

Peace to all!


HoodProphet said:


i would like your account on what jesus was doing for like 10-15 years between the gap of him being a child and becoming christ.

some say he was is india studying the crafts of bhuddhism.


there does seem to be similarities between ghandi, king, and christ.

^^^ Good question, I was debating that the other day with someone...
December 26, 2008 1:05 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

RIP MC Breed

aint no future in yo frontin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj31LWPjFoc
December 26, 2008 1:09 PM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

@hoodp and hustlinupNorth

I got a question for ya both.
Who will return first Christ or Tupac? lmfao
December 26, 2008 1:11 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

ay, i was LMAO @ the grinch who stole Christmas tryna make ppl smart yesterday.

whaddup HP?



whatitbeliiiiike Mush? what u over there gettin it2?



u over there vibin, huh,Taylor_Made? i see ya slappin.

Caaalifoooornia knows how ta party, Caaaaaaalifoooooornia

knows how ta paaaaaartyyyyy. In the ciiiiityyyy of LA.



Tommy K. whatitdo? there go a lil bit of what i think about Zeitgeist up there at Hustlinupnorth.





~BFG
December 26, 2008 1:13 PM
 

Knowl said:

HoodProphet said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSTm-DcaFTU&feature=related

5 mins in, the pope and others of eastern europe have pictures of black mary and black jesus


why they aint show me that in school?


that aint cool...
--------------------
True, but to show the masses that would prove something I know and teach to be true; That the Black Man is God.
December 26, 2008 1:14 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 1:17 PM
 

VA_2_CA said:

What the deal AHH?!!!!

All i gotta say is..... WHO WANT IT WIT DA MAGIC BABY!!!!

We coming for dat ass again lakers!!!!

December 26, 2008 1:18 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 1:21 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 1:25 PM
 

Hustlinupnorth said:

Sun worship is the first world religion. Remember, Jesus was not the first of God's prophets, he was the Word made flesh. When God created the world He spoke it into being, Jesus was there and was that Word too. God created the universe, He is not "the universe".

One doesn't come to proofs of faith by reason.
December 26, 2008 1:29 PM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

@ knowl

WHat do you mean the Black Man is God?

There is only one and He is colored but every black man i dont know guy.

On the real tho i had this dream of a black, bald olympic build cat standing in front of my apt telling me what i am allowed to do and still make it to heaven. later on in the dream a small boy with a evil grin on his face was floating toward me. to make a long story short the little boy was satan and the bald dude was Abraham ( from the old testament ).
December 26, 2008 1:31 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 1:36 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@SuperChrisbo

u interested in knowledge or summoning you inner child?

if the light to bride, wear shades.

or if it suits you, chill in the sun like the rest of us.  after all, we are in the midst of the days that are set to worship the gods sun.


@butrflygrl

whatsup.  thats real spit you dropped right there.

"our reality around us is nothing more than a constellation of symbols, which are open for interpretation. but are most often are just passively agreed upon thru conditioning processes. "

that pretty much sums it up.

just that society has taught us to understand the symbols in a manner that is harmful for us and beneficial to the white majority.  but as you said, that are their for all to interpret


@knowl

I hear you homie.  conscious black man who survives the new age holocaust, will understand that and take his thrown.

December 26, 2008 1:42 PM
 

NelsoNetic said:

Hahaha

I think the allhiphop fam be on that rum and cheeba cheeba to after reading these last comments.
It's all good tho, smoke one with a n*gg*
December 26, 2008 1:43 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 1:43 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@tommy k

its a lot of worthy questions about it all, that simply get mauled over or washed with the infamous "u just gotta believe" or "dont question (insert authority here)"  philosophy.
December 26, 2008 1:44 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

Hustlinupnorth said:
Sun worship is the first world religion. Remember, Jesus was not the first of God's prophets, he was the Word made flesh. When God created the world He spoke it into being, Jesus was there and was that Word too. God created the universe, He is not "the universe".

One doesn't come to proofs of faith by reason.

=======================

hustlin, so your believe is that jesus is one of Gods prophets?

not god in the flesh?  im confused

because i always thought those teachings taught that jesus is the one and only of his kind.   "Gods only begotten son"

you also said sun worship is the first world religion.

my believe is that all the religions are derived from or influenced by sun worship

man, throughout history has worshipped or feared pretty much everything he didnt understand

those til this day, are still the most common responses to lack of knowledge on a subject.
December 26, 2008 1:48 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

JAY-Z ABOUT JIM: "You let that man hype you to go against your idol Knowing good and goddamn well this what I do"
December 26, 2008 1:49 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

JAY-Z ABOUT JIM: "You let that man hype you to go against your idol Knowing good and goddamn well this what I do"
December 26, 2008 1:49 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

dj quik / just like compton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOs6qNJevvE
December 26, 2008 1:49 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Kappagem said:
Lakers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Celtics!!!

Peep that folks...

Let 'em know Saluate!!!
December 26, 2008 1:49 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

Put a barrel in a capo mouth, 'til his scalp come out
You a kid, you don't live what you rap about
King poetic, too many haters to count
Too much paper to count, QB BITCH!

NAS GOT AT JIM JONES
December 26, 2008 1:58 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

Put a barrel in a capo mouth, 'til his scalp come out
You a kid, you don't live what you rap about
King poetic, too many haters to count
Too much paper to count, QB BITCH!

NAS GOT AT JIM JONES
December 26, 2008 1:58 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

Bone thugs and harmony & pac/ thug luv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z9nXD8HjIA
December 26, 2008 1:58 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

KAPP YOU SEE EM NIGGAZ QUIET AS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
December 26, 2008 1:59 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

KAPP YOU SEE EM NIGGAZ QUIET AS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
December 26, 2008 1:59 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

KAPP YOU SEE EM NIGGAZ QUIET AS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
December 26, 2008 1:59 PM
 

Hustlinupnorth said:

@ BFG

Sorry to hear you're sick lady. Hope you get well soon. I usually get sick twice a year, once on my birthday and once on Christmas. I think my immune system just does it to get training fighting the newest virus. I haven't been sick yet tho. Thank God, I'm way to busy being on call through the holidays.

I just gotta crack up when folks try to look oustside the Bible looking for Jesus. It's like walking into the grocery store and getting mad that they don't sell cars. Alot of people are turned of of Christianity by the dogmas and doctrines and past transgression of the church and don't think that's by accident. The path is narrow and hard. Biblically all of those called on by God, or the most rightous in God are killed, tortured, beheaded, crucified, fed to lions, sold into slavery and just generally treted terribly. These are the CHOSEN!! Every single person in the Bible called by God immediately tries to get out of whatever task He has for them. Moses, Jonah, even Jesus at one time asked God not to use them. They knew it was not an easy thing to be chosen by God for service. Service in the terms of God is sacrifice, that's why He gave us His only begotten SON. People think that faith is a crutch, grasped at by the weak and those too feeble to make it through to the "truth" on their own. That's a demonic lie. Straight up. Attemping to enter into God's grace is an instant invitation to spiritual attack. Being a Christian means you must battle the nature of yourself in the flesh. This cannot be a victory with He who first overcame the flesh. Taking up Christ's cross on your own is impossible. You need to meet Him first.

Sorry about that, I kind of ranted there for a minute. My point was, Christ doen't make life easier in this world. Matter of fact, my religion teaches me that the world will cut off my head if I don't renounce Him. And the public will call for it and cheer when it happens.
December 26, 2008 1:59 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

religion= controlled thought


Im am religous-less

which means my thoughts arn't controlled by an external medium.

God gave me one of them brains that was made to self-govern

God/guide thyself.   through understanding of his univeral knowledge and laws of course.

after all, God being omni-potent and omni-present, he is universal or "the universe" if you will.

God is also male and female at the same time.  masculine and feminine at the same time.  genderless.

the God in the bible is a masculine, angry, jealous God

he/it doesnt accurately depict my understanding of the genderless, emotionless entity or essence I understand to be the ultimate or supreme consciousness of man and other beings.


the God in the bible seems to be mans interpretation of a God who and how he wants it to be.   by thats all part of being omni-potent and omni-present, so to each its own.

God who you want it to be.  

but if you build a small house, dont complain about the size of your bedroom.
December 26, 2008 2:01 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Did I mention them Lakers got in that Celtic Azz?

If not, feel free to reference Saluate's post up above...

LAKERS BABY!!!

But we still gotta clean up some stuff....

I can't wait til the finals..
December 26, 2008 2:01 PM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

December 26, 2008 2:01 PM
 

B*braze said:

how bout them muthafuckin lakers?!

snoop tell 'em what time it is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W8hccdk4jY
December 26, 2008 2:06 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

"MAAARRRRRRRRRRRCUS, I'M NOT WEARING ANY PANTIIIIIIEEES"

R.I.P. E.KITT
December 26, 2008 2:08 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

Hmmm, we get to discuss the notion of the God-concept again. There are a number of issues that have stood between my quest for knowledge, and the belief in deity. See I don't just refuse to believe in an omnipotent God due to a lack of proof. A lack of proof doesn't necessarily mean something is invalidated or does not exist, it may simply mean that the equation is wrong.

The most fundamental conflict for me is the notion of the God-concept beyond belief. I do not fault people for their beliefs. Beliefs can be true or false. A false belief cannot be a true belief and vice versa.

Secondly, there is the issue of evil. For example, history is filled with examples of untold violence and evil. The TransAtlantic Slave trade, the Holocaust, Hiroshima, the genocide in Rwanda, Bosnia, etc. The list can go on and on, if there is a deity that is omnipotent, at what point does deity intervene?

You know plenty of people have experiences that they survive that affirm their faith in some unexplainable phenomena, but for every person asserting that some unexplainable phenomena saved their life, millions of people die or are killed. How can we explain the existence of an omnipotent God in the face of a natural propensity of living creatures to be violent. If it is merely the work of some "devil", or the anti-thesis of deity, then the anti-thesis of deity seems to be the natural order of the survival mechanism of living creatures such as predators.  

As far as the assertion that Man is a God. That proposition always has to be qualified. What about woman? Man certainly is not an omnipotent God. Man can only be a God within the social structures he creates, and no social structure exists with woman. Outside of the social structures men create, we are fairly limited in our abilities to survive without reliance upon the natural resources that we are born out of, we didn't create the Earth, the Earth created us.

These are some of the questions I posed to my 5% brethren when I was a youth and found them extremely lacking in explaining these issues. But they were claiming to be Gods. In fact, outside of the allegorical lore of the 120 lessons the assertion that "the Black man is God" was almost as questionable as believing the white man is a God. So I could no longer adhere to that philosophy. I'm still on my journey.
December 26, 2008 2:10 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

THAT TAKEOVER COULD HAPPEN. IF IT DOES I MEAN JENNY JONES TALKED SIDEWAYS ABOUT ALL OF THEM COMING OUT. JADA FOR GOING TO THE ROC, NAS, AND JAY. NAS BEEN SAID HE'S THINKING ABOUT ETHER 2 SO U NEVER KNOW.
December 26, 2008 2:11 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

@ BFG

What's good sis? 100% co-sign on that statement you made. I believe that we are thought to not recognize and interpret those symbols for ourselves, but rather just go along with what we are told they are supposed to mean. I also believe that religion is designed as a way to divide and control people... For example, I was born a Christan... but does that mean I have to be a Christan by default? What if I was born a Buddhist, does that mean that the Christan me was wrong? And why is it that we have all of these different dominations anyway? I believe there is a God in some way shape or form, but religion is out the door with me.

@ HP

Exactly! I can probably think of 100 contradictions or things that are just weird about the bible off the top of my head but every time you question it, you are turned down bc "you are not supposed to question the word of God"... smh. How do you expect for me to believe something when I can get a full understanding... I asked a preacher why is it that there were so many other messiahs before Jesus that have similar characteristics and I got turned down with some bs...
December 26, 2008 2:16 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Lakers All Dai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 2:20 PM
 

B*braze said:

Matter of fact, my religion teaches me that the world will cut off my head if I don't renounce Him. And the public will call for it and cheer when it happens.
**************************************


and that right there is the problem with all religions. fallin back on this kinda thinking.



that shit sound like bush when he said...

"they hate us for our freedom!"


December 26, 2008 2:20 PM
 

Young BRINK! said:

Yeah Most Definitely
R.I.P. Eartha Kitt
She was a Very Important African American

Now on to the rumors

*SUPERHEAD*
Superhead threw Jermaine O'neal under the bus....
that dont make since. I believe her, but on the other hand, I think its more to that story.
I think it was more action than a smack on the ACE!

Grizzlies trade for Steve Francis........
Hope he still got somethin left in the old engine.

Lebron James aint no joke!

OJ Mayo ROOKIE OF THE YEAR!

I dont know what else to say.....

But a Sexy young lady from AHH texted me Merry Christmas yesterday & I wasnt able to text back.
So..............................................

MERRY CHRISTMAS SEXY YOUNG LADY :-)

Get that dough!
http://myspace.com/youngbrink1

http://youtube.com/youngbrink

http://www.youngbrink.com
December 26, 2008 2:22 PM
 

BlackSean said:

"Ho ho ho
open up yoour do',
Im Santa Claus & guess what y'all....
I got sump'n to show

I came to bring sum Christmas spirit,
I gotta big bagm now guess what's in it.
Sump'n for the rich & sump'n for the po',
so Merry Christmas and ho ho ho!!"


Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas, my foot,
Imma tell you what Santa really put
Under my so-called tree but in reality,
looks like nuthin but a decorated pole to me"

"You talk about a tree, it makes me wonder
becuz I never had a tree to put anything under.
If I ever did wake up & get a tree,
There was never anything under it for me"
*****************************
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT5noclsXS4

My only tradition is watching this every year




Whassup, peoples........ er'body holidays good?

Thats not a GI Joe, thats a GI Jerk
with a kung-fu grip that don't even work.
Now you see why I just put 'em a way,
Becuz my GI Joe looks GI Gay!"

December 26, 2008 2:22 PM
 

Young BRINK! said:

Oh Yea, What do yall expect from
Ne-Yo?????

YALL REMEMBER WHAT THE LATE GREAT PIMP C SAID!

December 26, 2008 2:23 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@streetweyes

nice of you to join the convo.

i invite knowledge like the indian invites the white man to his land.  it is for all of us to share.

I wish you would have separated your seemingly questions to me vs questions to knowl.  because somethings you said seemed to apply to me, then I thought maybe you were talking to knowl.


but let me discuss what i felt applied to me.  you question the concept of an "omnipotent God"

I like your break down of belief vs truth.  to sum it up, belief is opinion, truth is fact.  ironically even fact has an expiration date.

the fact that we have a concept or understanding of fact, just futher supports the claim of a God.  just like the concept of perfection.

never seen perfection, but still have an understanding of what it is or should i say, what it isnt.  feel me?

im sure for a long time, it was considered "fact" that the earth was flat.  then a greater understanding of knowledge came about.  that correlation to the understanding of God is endless.

my understanding of the word omnipotent is "having virtually unlimited authority or influence"

that can also be found in webster.

now to me,  God= knowledge

knowledge is endless

God= light

light is endless

God= supreme consciousness

consciousness is endless

God= the universe

the universe is endless.   actually expanding as we speak.


thats my premise for considering God to be omnipotent

nothign more, nothing less.  feel me

as far as man being God.  man can only be a part of God, or a particle of God

as we are a particle in the universe

an organ within an organism

after all, our solar system is nothing more than an atomic mass

with the son being the nucleus and the planets are the electrons.  same principles apply to both...
December 26, 2008 2:25 PM
 

Mr.WickedJones said:

R.I.P. Eartha Kitt..

U think beyonce, Janet Jackson was some bad bitches.
December 26, 2008 2:27 PM
 

B*braze said:

Hustlinupnorth said:
I just gotta crack up when folks try to look oustside the Bible looking for Jesus. It's like walking into the grocery store and getting mad that they don't sell cars.
*********************************************


you obviously havent been to costco's...


December 26, 2008 2:41 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

hey HP. yeah thats basically how i see things. funny i was just thinking of the universal laws myself.

of course the Law of One immediately comes to mind because i cant see how there cud b a distinction between the Creator and the Creation.

but basically i co-sign all of what u said in the post re: religion-less.

y do u say "emotionless" tho? i see it as emotionally-balanced.
explain that to me.

also liked the point about the Bible's portrayal of God: masculine, angry, jealous...judgmental, i might add. but right & proper tho.

and the automatic opposite of that is the portrayal of woman. but thats another story. all i'll say is: the division of man & woman.

also the Law of Unity:

"The Law of Unity is that Law which recognizes no separateness, which ignores the appearance and seemingness of separateness in the apparent divisions of polarities, gender, cause and effects, the part and the whole, the one and the many; but realizing these each as integrated parts of the total picture. The Law Of Unity identifies with the over-all viewpoint and sees neither night nor day, but the night-day process; neither right or wrong, but the right-wrong process; neither the pleasure nor the pain, but the pleasure-pain process; neither the one nor the all, but the At-One-Ment process of the ALL One Being, whose cells and souls work together even in the seemingness of division.

The Law Of Unity acknowledge such division, but stresses the oneness of the parts. The Law Of Unity sees loss and gain, life and death nothing but the spinning wheel of fortune that is based on the Law Of Change, which is itself a unified process known as the Law Of Magic."




and thank u, Hustlin, yeah its been about a year since i been sick myself.

i think i understand ur perspective in regards to Christianity. it is a common view. and i do respect it. despite the fact that i prolly disagree across the board, i do genuinely respect it.

i, personally, am not lookin for Jesus, w/in or outside the Bible tho. i feel like i was lucky enuff to not be indoctrinated with any sense of organized religion, at least within my household/upbringing that was supposed to be my own. altho i have had a good amount of exposure to many faiths/belief systems.

but im curious, are u saying that the wickedness that Christianity has been used for thru out history is all apart of a design plan to weed out non-believers? that only the strongest humans are chosen? i mean when u said: its not by accident that ppl are turnt off from Christianity.

that perspective just sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts imo.

idk break it down to me, if im misinterpreting.




okay lemme catch up, im movin slow...told yall i dont feel good. LOL




~BFG
December 26, 2008 2:42 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@HP

Actually I wasn't addressing either one of you, I was addressing the topic, but I totally understand your perspective. The God-concept normally falls somewhere in between omnipotent mystery, and man made flesh or human knowledge. I grew up with 5%ers and they are one of the groups amongst Black people that believe in the man made flesh notion of God. They are not afraid to say it in public. A lot of people are afraid to say that in public. I mean the Moorish Science Temple, the NOI, and even some Masonic sects believe God is Man. They just won't say it in public. I don't necessarily have any fundamental knowledge that there is anything omnipotent in the Universe, but that is a different topic.

Those are the templates but I find them both to be lacking because they simply don't move beyond the symbolic. Humanity is filled with symbols, I formally studied Computer Science, heavy math, symbolism.

Symbols can create material objects, for example, binary mathematics is the basis for the control logic of circuits, making all of these electronic devices possible. But if you want to see how little we actually know, ask a simple question, where did the symbols come from? Where did mathematics actually originate? We can trace the actual lines, such as the geometry, the arabic numerals, sanskrit, the hieroglyphs, but we don't know where it actually originated. In the human mind? A collective of human brainstorming over the centuries? Maybe, maybe.

The truly interesting questions boggle the mind, so I find the God question to be fundamental, but human knowledge is lacking in those areas. If the God-concept is a figment of the collective imagination of human beings then it has become a circular argument. One with no beginning or ending, much like the idea of an omnipotent God. Maybe we had it and lost it, that is very possible, I don't know. I'm still on my journey, because I truly don't know and it's pretentious of humans to act like we know when we don't. People are led around by people as blind as they are, they just have a structured set of tenets to justify their delusions.
December 26, 2008 2:48 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@butrflygrl

thats  an excellent break down and an excellent posed question.

on point, like alwas with bringing in the understanding of the universal laws and the law of one.  they are intertwined with my post to street.

your question about why i say God is emotionless, is a good one.

i use that word the same way I used the word "religion-less"

can me absent of all or embody all, in the way I was using it.

basically saying that I am not religious in that I have a particular religious denomination.  but you may find some embodiments in some or all of the religions in my beliefs.

same when I say God is emotion-less.  what i mean by it for lack of a better word,

instead of "a angry God".   God is like the embodiment of all the emotions, as through the essence of God we can experience all of them.

just like you said, not day or night, but the day night process.  we can label God as anything but infinite or all encompassing,

or (check me out street) "omnipotent and omnipresent"

thats why man and the concept of masculinity is only half complete without woman and the concept of femininity.

just like street said, you need woman.  its a 50-50  journey to the light.

we are only a fraction of our potential as one, but closer to our own supreme consciousness (God-man status) with both masculine and feminine energy.


thats why i dont agree with the religious practices of making woman subservient or beneath man.  like see in saudi arabia.

you limit her, you also limit yourself.  because you are stronger through her shown strength.

but we confuse man being followed by woman with man controlling woman.  two different concepts, feel me?
December 26, 2008 2:56 PM
 

MXyMAGDOTCOM said:

jay-z needs to go hard at Jones, but beef is played out!
December 26, 2008 2:57 PM
 

Knowl said:

SuperChrisbo said:
@ knowl

WHat do you mean the Black Man is God?

There is only one and He is colored but every black man i dont know guy.
------------------------
What do you mean what do I mean, The Black Man is God. I just said it. I'm not feeling your 'Colored' reference to the Original Man. Sounds a lil archaic if you ask me. The Black Man has always been here. Nothing exited before the Original man and nothing will exist after the original man. The Original man is Supreme. The Black Man is been led astray from his Natural Righteousness. He will return to his Natural Righteousness. eventually.
December 26, 2008 2:59 PM
 

mr.201973 said:

December 26, 2008 3:05 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

whatitdo B*Braze (LMAO @ Costco's)??????


i see ya 2, RockSean.



Streetweyez said:

A lack of proof doesn't necessarily mean something is invalidated or does not exist, it may simply mean that the equation is wrong...

*********

great points u made thru out. but yeah, what if the equation is off? or the symbols represented in that equation are being misinterpreted? thats gon have a great impact on the outcome.

reminds me of this technique we use to exemplify this at work with the families...lemme think how i could convey it to yall on here. it has been written/drawn out & seen.

maybe i cud just state how to write it out and yall cud see.



exactly, Tommy K. whatitdo btw? but yeah, ultimately, i just believe there are no absolutes, at least not in the common perception that holds as the norm. nothing pretty much outside of the Universal Laws.

i posted one on Unity back up the way, here go the Law of One. u might find it useful.

"THE LAW OF ONE
This Awareness indicates all is one; there is the Law of One and all reside within this Law: That all souls are cells of the body of this Awareness; and when this Law is obeyed, there is no need for any entity to struggle or compete; for this is likened unto the parts of one's body fighting the other parts of one's body, and in general the body being at war with itself.

With the Law of One you may be at peace in the body of this Awareness. This Awareness indicates the Law of One is a fixed and universal law in which those who understand the Law of One realize that all is one, and all that appears to be separate will, in the end, be nothing but an illusion to those who followed the path of separateness which appeared as scattered fragments. This Awareness indicates wherein the universe is one totality and entities recognize that wholly universe, then entities may move into that universal harmony."


i gotta cite my source on these laws, it was the Grinch who put me on. LMAO




HP said:

my understanding of the word omnipotent is "having virtually unlimited authority or influence"

that can also be found in webster.

now to me,  God= knowledge

knowledge is endless

God= light

light is endless

God= supreme consciousness

consciousness is endless

God= the universe

the universe is endless.   actually expanding as we speak.


thats my premise for considering God to be omnipotent

nothign more, nothing less.  feel me

as far as man being God.  man can only be a part of God, or a particle of God

as we are a particle in the universe

an organ within an organism

after all, our solar system is nothing more than an atomic mass

with the son being the nucleus and the planets are the electrons.  same principles apply to both...


*******

thnx, Prof. thats exactly it 4 me 2. u said it all.





~BFG
December 26, 2008 3:06 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@streetweyes

i think at the conclusion of your journey, if there will be one

you might end up with the fundamental concept, that "it is what you want it to be"

and theres a difference between objectivity and subjectivity, but man only truly knows subjectivity and has an idea or limited understand of objectivity

with that said, i think the illusions and the spirals of knowledge are intentional to keep it infinite.  if that makes sense.

and even that concept right there is beyond man.  the concept of infinity.  the concept of perfection.  the concept of objectivity

all are concepts that we only perceive to see on different levels, but are also limitless at the same time.

thats the fundamentals of what we attribute to God.

now with something so complex, one can go crazy with trying to fully understand it.  so he's probably best off understanding it to his ability, if that makes sense

just like water.  we may not understand its essence to the fullest.  as we may think

but we know that drinking it gives us certain benefits.

I think the concet of God can be and is applied the same way.  may never fully understand it.  but must use it to our benefit within our confounds.

after all, if the body is truly a space suit for the earth land, and the spirit is the true self.

then we can only be limited with out understand and practice of God on these plains.

but we can finish this discussion in further detail and better understanding when the both of us leave these bodys.  

or on the flip, nothing happens, like the belief of the atheist.  time will tell.


but like I said

"if you build a small house, you cant complain about the size of your bedroom"
December 26, 2008 3:08 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

BFG, Knowl, Brink, B*Braze, Hood P & Black Sean......how is ya'll day? I'm over here with the case of the Mondays.....but 4:30 is on her way....
December 26, 2008 3:09 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

invest a minute diggers & knowers......

Amiri Baraka: The Power of the Word

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1-2S7baPUU
December 26, 2008 3:12 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@HP

Perhaps, I mean you can believe what you want to believe. You are still heavily dealing with a mystical symbolism "Light=consciousness". You have said nothing that proves the existence of an omnipotent god, just your beliefs, and that's cool.

The Universe is actually expanding and contracting at the same time if you are actually talking about "space". I told you all before that I hate physics, and you're not dealing with the physics of the Universe so I'll leave that for another topic. You kinda sound religious though bruh. Well I think I'm going to indulge myself, I'll check back later on tonight to see where this conversation ends up at. :-D
December 26, 2008 3:16 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

Streetweyez Sayles said:
@HP

Perhaps, I mean you can believe what you want to believe. You are still heavily dealing with a mystical symbolism "Light=consciousness". You have said nothing that proves the existence of an omnipotent god, just your beliefs, and that's cool.

The Universe is actually expanding and contracting at the same time if you are actually talking about "space". I told you all before that I hate physics, and you're not dealing with the physics of the Universe so I'll leave that for another topic. You kinda sound religious though bruh. Well I think I'm going to indulge myself, I'll check back later on tonight to see where this conversation ends up at. :-D

========================================

thats unfortunate that my 2+2 came out to 3 for you.

but I cannot take ownership of your ability or inability to do the math with what I am saying to you.

you say i "sound" religious.

and i say, thank you for your opinion.

in order to get to the root of that, i would have to examine your understand of what "religious" means.

it wouldnt surprise me if we had two different understandings of it.

just as many people group spirituality and religion together.  as if you have to be one to be the other.

or they group God with christianity.  as if you have to be christian to truly believe in God.  

like for example:  how often people consider being anti-religious to mean your anti-God.

thats how you keep the bubble from bursting.


all in all street, i just suggest you re-read my post.  only this time, turn on your open mind.  you might come up with a different mathematical equation...
December 26, 2008 3:25 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

okay i hadta go back and see what i wrote HP 1st. LOL



ay, Hustlin, i meant to type:

"part of a divine plan to weed out non-believers?"



but HoodProphet, okay i gotcha perfectly, where u said:

"can me(an) absent of all or embody all, in the way I was using it.

basically saying that I am not religious in that I have a particular religious denomination.  but you may find some embodiments in some or all of the religions in my beliefs.

same when I say God is emotion-less.  what i mean by it for lack of a better word,

instead of "a angry God".   God is like the embodiment of all the emotions, as through the essence of God we can experience all of them.

just like you said, not day or night, but the day night process.  we can label God as anything but infinite or all encompassing


***********

okay was lookin for that clarification about emotion-less: thru the embodiment of God we can experience them all. true. all-encompassing.

i mos def feel what u & Street are both pointing out about woman too.

cudnt agree more w/ what u said:

"we are only a fraction of our potential as one, but closer to our own supreme consciousness (God-man status) with both masculine and feminine energy...

...you limit her, you also limit yourself.  because you are stronger through her shown strength.

but we confuse man being followed by woman with man controlling woman.  two different concepts, feel me?"

*********

more men cud stand to recognize this and actually apply it to their lives. nice 2 see this awareness exists here.






~BFG
December 26, 2008 3:28 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

hp lets get a game...
December 26, 2008 3:28 PM
 

Killa2thaB said:

@streetweyez sayles: I need to apologize to U about the other day. When we spoke last, I was just about to walk out the door to go to my aunts funeral. I guess you just caught me in a more somber mood than usual. Well, I gotta  let u know that I DID pick up on the whole condecending vibe that u were tryin to put out there. I was just in the wrong mood to deal with it at the time. However, I am now back to my "normal" frame of mind. So lets see if u wanna get outta pocket again, shall we?
December 26, 2008 3:29 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

whatsup hotnuknowit.  yea i feel you on the monday thing.  I hate when it feels like that

jube, whats the vid about it?  i will check for it in a minute.


@streetweyes

when you get back, I will like you to further explain your understanding of the universe too.

you said it is expanding and contracting at the same time.  and you also stated your frustration with physics.  explain that too if you dont mind.

that may be the route of your confusion.
December 26, 2008 3:31 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

HoodProphet said:
jube, whats the vid about it?  i will check for it in a minute.
------

Black Arts poet Amiri Baraka reads from his work, & discusses writing, politics & the Black experience w/author Alexs Pate. Co-produced with the Givens Foundation for African-American Literature
December 26, 2008 3:37 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

Killa.....be good :)
December 26, 2008 3:38 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

the fundamental difference in true belief in God and atheism i think is the same as

liberal vs conservatism.

atheist believe that things are the way they are and thats it.

but how does that help things "become" what they can become?

the concept of God helps man leap beyond his existing constraints.

because god is the unknown.  God is the infinite.

some mans contemplation of this concept is what pushes him/her forward.  its what makes us desire something greater than what we see

what gives hope.  what inspires.


thats the fundamental importance in the concept.

now if hope is used wrong, it can destroy or damage you.  just like misusing water makes you drown.

(more math, streetweyes)    aight.  im done for nwo



@jube shine.

we can get a game if u want.  u signed on now?  imma go set up a room
December 26, 2008 3:41 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

hey, Hot Girl, u at work huh? lookin for 4:30? i feel it. its hard to go to work after a holiday. but it shudnt be long now, u back East?



what, u & Braze tryna get spanked in sum spades Jube???? LOL
nah, im j/p. lemme get out the mix.

im just talkin cause i was almost sure that u and Braze was gon wanna play it up, outta everybody. idk y.





~BFG
December 26, 2008 3:42 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

butrflygrl,

no doubt.   we eye to eye on the subject.

in other news.  which one of us made hustlin leave, you or me?

cuz the convo started with him.



let me come out of the clouds.  what lil wayne do lately?

let me read illseeds distractions.  i mean rumors...
December 26, 2008 3:44 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

hp @jube shine.

we can get a game if u want.  u signed on now?  imma go set up a room
------

where at?  im in.

------

bfg i will buss that ass..........
December 26, 2008 3:46 PM
 

B*braze said:

butrflygrl said:

what, u & Braze tryna get spanked in sum spades Jube???? LOL
nah, im j/p. lemme get out the mix.

im just talkin cause i was almost sure that u and Braze was gon wanna play it up, outta everybody. idk y.
**************************************

i know i need my nigga liscence revoked for this, but, i never learned to play spades.

ima beast playin dominoes... but spades? i tried to watch and learn but niggas be slappin the cards down to fast and then snatch 'em off the table too quik for me to assess why they won that hand.

and im already 25, i be too embarassed to ask how to play that shit now.
December 26, 2008 3:52 PM
 

B*braze said:

HoodProphet said:
butrflygrl,

no doubt.   we eye to eye on the subject.

in other news.  which one of us made hustlin leave, you or me?

cuz the convo started with him.
*********************************

he went to go see if they really do sell cars at costco...
December 26, 2008 3:54 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

butrflygrl said:
hey, Hot Girl, u at work huh? lookin for 4:30? i feel it. its hard to go to work after a holiday. but it shudnt be long now, u back East?
************************************************
I'm in the Midwest, 35 mins away.....WAIT, Braze youonknow how to play Spades?!?!? <hangs head in sorrow...>
Naw, j/p but it's never too late!
December 26, 2008 3:57 PM
 

Killa2thaB said:

@Hot: Why? When Im bad, Im betta.
December 26, 2008 4:00 PM
 

B*braze said:

and niggas be too cocky playin spades...

they slap the card down all hard, talkin shit. card still be spinnin in the middle or they slide off the table.

fuck that. ima sore loser. i 'da kicked that fuckin table over and send everything flyin. cards, glasses of cognac and ashtrays... everything.
December 26, 2008 4:02 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

  B*braze said:
and niggas be too cocky playin spades...

they slap the card down all hard, talkin shit. card still be spinnin in the middle or they slide off the table.

fuck that. ima sore loser. i 'da kicked that fuckin table over and send everything flyin. cards, glasses of cognac and ashtrays... everything.
************************************************
Aw HEEEELLLLL naw! You ain't knockin over no Yac....you wouldn't be able to play with me cause I get personal......let it be a scuff on ya shoe, I'm throwin that in the mix "Gon head & bid Braze......wityo scuffed up ass shoes, bet they match yo hand..."
LOL Plus I talk helly shit when I'm winning....
December 26, 2008 4:07 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

B*braze said:
butrflygrl said:

what, u & Braze tryna get spanked in sum spades Jube???? LOL
nah, im j/p. lemme get out the mix.

im just talkin cause i was almost sure that u and Braze was gon wanna play it up, outta everybody. idk y.
**************************************

i know i need my nigga liscence revoked for this, but, i never learned to play spades.

ima beast playin dominoes... but spades? i tried to watch and learn but niggas be slappin the cards down to fast and then snatch 'em off the table too quik for me to assess why they won that hand.

and im already 25, i be too embarassed to ask how to play that shit now.
---------

easiest game ever-

2 2-playa teams -usually

deal the deck- 13 cards each including 2 jokers.
take out red 2s.

2s low Aces high.  big joker then little joker are highest spades.  then Ace down.

13 total 'books' to play.  each team bids after deal how many books theyll take.

10 pts for each book bid & made
1 pt for each book made over bid
-10 x # bid if you dont make bid= 'shot'
underbid by 3 books = shot
shot back 2 back = game
shot 1st deal = game
play to like 250...

play in suit.  high card takes book.

spade is trump.  3 of spades e.g. takes A of clubs...

only play spade if out of suit played.

if u come with a spade over a suit, & then later play that suit u 'reneg'.  if caught & the renegd book can be id'd you give up 3 books - 30pts- to other team.

caint lead a spade until after a suit been cut.

if you in negative score you can 'blind bid' b4 cards dealt & score double.

bid & win 10 books in a deal is 'wheel' = game.

no talking over the board.
December 26, 2008 4:07 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

....Killa, in that case....proceed ;)
December 26, 2008 4:08 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

Jube...I'm glad you put the no talkin on the board up there be done got popped! LOL
December 26, 2008 4:11 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

yes maam. thass guaranteed fight starter.

b waitin 2hrs to get on then fools start tippin hands

nuh uh
December 26, 2008 4:19 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@braze

lol.  u a fool for that costco ish.  i had to go back and re-read to peep that.  

aye, u aint neva lied about the spades tho.  im one of them car slamming trash talkers.  thats like half the fun yo, lol

aye, i miss all them classic games.


i was just playing monopoly on the computer and shit.  thats my shit again.   anybody else got it?

cuz then we can play online or something i think.   that would be banging if we could all play that or sumthin.   playin monopoly refreshes my business acumen.


jube, i got caught up reading yahoo news articles.  our media circuit saying that pakistan puttin troops on the indian border.  

word on the street  (and the pentagon) is that pakistan indiad and israel gone kick off    WW3.  

u see that vid i showed of obama clinton and bush sr up there from 2005?  sup with them niggas hanging out back then?
December 26, 2008 4:20 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

*Question*... Do any of you play Chess???

Just so everyone knows, I set up an IC chess league... Everyone is welcome to join... We have beginner and regular leagues. The first tournament just came to a end yesterday...

If you like Chess and are interested... check out this thread...

http://community.allhiphop.com/go/thread/view/12501/5200071/IC_Chess_League_Sign_Up_Thread?num=40&pg=1

or just get at me on here...

@ Knowl, I got you... make sure you drop your yahoo s/n and which league in the thread
December 26, 2008 4:22 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

ay, HP, Lil Wayne was just out here the other nite. & they say only 1 person got killed after the concert.

so thats news, the 1 person part.

far as who made Hustlin leave. be nice. ay, u know it cudnt been me, so it hadta be u, meany. duuuuuuh.



LOL @ Jube

"blasphemy!!!!!!!!!" she screamed @ the athiest.




LMAO @ Braze on both notes:

lookin 2 see if they really got cars @ Costco. hella funny.

and yeah u need yo ass whoooooooped for not knowin how to play Spades blood.

we cant have that. u gotta learn man, by whatever means necessary.

oh see Jube hookin u up w/ the layout. ima bout 2 read em too.

but u funny 2 talkin bout folks b 2 cocky. thats just part of the fun of it. i luv makin my cards spin. ;D

aint no different than w/ dominoes tho. ppl get serious as hell w/ them too. slammin down hella hard on the table, dont care if its glass or not. talk mo than a lil shit. matter of fact thats why i quit playin them. LOL used ta be gettin hellllllllllllla mad.

i can still get down if i need to. but i just prefer to avoid that game.



okay, gotcha, Hot Girl. prolly 20 mins to go by now. ;D but so,  where u at in the Midwest anyway?

but yeah, i flabbergasted that Braze cant play spades too.




~BFG
December 26, 2008 4:25 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

oh yea, by the way

i went and seen that will smith movie 7lbs.  it was aight.  interesting story.

i remember bp1 talking about the title (7lbs) and why they named it that.

i got my conclusion but are people still worried about spoiling it?  or is that hype over?

wasnt u talkin about it killa2dab?
December 26, 2008 4:27 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

BFG.....I'm in Indianapolis
& I feel ya on them bones too....I like playin Spades better but it's whatever with me.....all except poker for now, I'm getting lessons still LOL

Ya'll be good (all except Killa), I'll check ya'll later....
December 26, 2008 4:28 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

@ BFG

I'm st8, just trying to find a way around the box I was born in you know? lol... But yea I can also co-sign both of those laws...

Let me ask this... (and this question is for anybody who can answer it...) A lot of us on this board has knowledge and our eyes are open... but where does it go from there? What actions do we take??? Do we continue to live in this corrupt and controlled society and just "deal with it"?
December 26, 2008 4:31 PM
 

Killa2thaB said:

@Hood: yeah, that was me. What up?
December 26, 2008 4:34 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

aww tommy k

all this religious talk and you in here committing sins.

how you gone not tell me you got a chess tournament jawn kicked off.

now I see what TO be sayin.   tommy romo, i ont preciate you playin keep away, lol

when the next game?


damn i see jube broke down the whole spades jawn.  yall call it shot tho huh?  we call it "set' when you dont get your books.

on the computer tho they got "nil" and "bid nil"

thats like when you bet zero adn you got to not get no books.  and you get points for that

@butrflygrl

u gone stop callin me the grinch and sayin im mean.  i was just lookin out yesterday with them vids.  aye, but yo did you watch them?

if not, u sleepin.

all them ones i put up there ^^ too, is platinum.    i shoulda posted them as "new weezy tracks".   make sure they get out.
December 26, 2008 4:38 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

jube,
u see that vid i showed of obama clinton and bush sr up there from 2005?  sup with them niggas hanging out back then?
-----

what is surprising about a US senator being photographed with active former presidents?

it would be surprising were there no photos of them together.

people go off the deep end with the 'mysterious secret ruling elite' fascinations.  its no mystery who the capitalists are.  who cares about they little handshakes & frat party shenanigans.  what matters is HOW they manifest they LEGAL rule & how to fight that.
-------

Obama held assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works and Veterans' Affairs through December 2006.[86] In January 2007, he left the Environment and Public Works committee and took additional assignments with Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[87] He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.[88] As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, Central Asia and Africa. He met with Mahmoud Abbas before he became President of Palestine, and gave a speech at the University of Nairobi condemning corruption in the Kenyan government.[
December 26, 2008 4:40 PM
 

B*braze said:

HoodProphet said:

i was just playing monopoly on the computer and shit.  thats my shit again.   anybody else got it?
**********************************



and dont get me started on monopoly... games with my brothers used to go for like 3hours. we was makin up rules and shit.

we didnt even waste money on houses we went straight to purchasing hotels.

niggas couldnt get they $200 pass go money if they aint call it. we could roll doubles as many times as the dice landed that way

throw $1000 and any community chest fines that needed to be paid under the 'free parking' space and whoever landed on it kept the money.

nigga... st charles place, new york ave and indiana ave was money makers. matter fact them 2 whole sides of the board, purple, orange, red, and yellow was murder alley.

we didnt even fuck with the utilities or railroads. haha
December 26, 2008 4:42 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

bfg sd- LOL @ Jube

"blasphemy!!!!!!!!!" she screamed @ the athiest.
-----

atheism is a religion.  disbelief is a belief...


check that baraka vid...
December 26, 2008 4:43 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

jube shine

Im in the social room

badger bridge

table 79.   yahoo chess.   raedy when you are


tommy, imma have to check that jawn out you put up too.

aye, you got a good question about "what do we do from here"

out it like this.  it took 100s of years to make us ass backwards.  hopefully it dont take that long for us to set it right.

the best we can do now, is expose the lies.  encourage the truth.  

the more people search for knowledge and reject the mainstream social programming, the less it has power.   we all collectively have to create the reality we want thru our thoughts and actions.   and spreading the knowledge

also keep ya eyes and ears open to underground circles.  most the good movements start that way.  if i get a real good one going or become a part of one i can spread.  i got u.
December 26, 2008 4:45 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

i see u play by the hard rules Jube.

unless im just not conceptualizing of it practically:

"-10 x # bid if you dont make bid= 'shot'
underbid by 3 books = shot
shot back 2 back = game
shot 1st deal = game"

wait, break that down again...

minus 10 times the number u bid, if u dont make ur books...lemme think.

so wait, me & my partner bid 6. but we only make 5 books. so we minus 60, right?

yeah, right. damn im slow...never mind, u was gettin mathematically technical. that was a negative 10. LMAO 3x told yall im slow 2day.

so when u say shot = being/got set, right?

so if u underbid by 3, u get set?

get set twice in a row, game over?

get set 1st hand, game over?

whats them jailhouse rules????? LMAO 3x nah but thats actually good shit, if u think about it.


"if u come with a spade over a suit, & then later play that suit u 'reneg'.  if caught & the renegd book can be id'd you give up 3 books - 30pts- to other team."

so we never had no official rule for this one. it was just, if u pull that shit, u get yo ass whooped. LMAO thats it & thats all. game over cause aint nobody gon wanna play after the fight. hahahahahaha


"bid & win 10 books in a deal is 'wheel' = game."

we call that "runnin a Boston" even tho that came from bid wist (sp?). but i never played it where u automatically win the whole game in Spades for that.

oh yeah, and dont u neva, eva, eva, eva, eva talk over the board. hella nah. i know thats right. fa real.





~BFG
December 26, 2008 4:48 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

@ HP

lol there is nothing religious about me but we are going to start up another tournament real soon... I will keep everyone updated. Just know that we play on yahoo games so you will need a yahoo account.
December 26, 2008 4:48 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESSE COME UP OUT THAT HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DON'T BE ASHAMED OF THEM CELTICS!!!!!! ATLEAST RAJON RONDO HAD ON SOME FLY NIKE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY AIN'T MAKIN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
December 26, 2008 4:49 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESSE COME UP OUT THAT HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DON'T BE ASHAMED OF THEM CELTICS!!!!!! ATLEAST RAJON RONDO HAD ON SOME FLY NIKE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY AIN'T MAKIN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
December 26, 2008 4:49 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESSE COME UP OUT THAT HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DON'T BE ASHAMED OF THEM CELTICS!!!!!! ATLEAST RAJON RONDO HAD ON SOME FLY NIKE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY AIN'T MAKIN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
December 26, 2008 4:49 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESSE COME UP OUT THAT HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DON'T BE ASHAMED OF THEM CELTICS!!!!!! ATLEAST RAJON RONDO HAD ON SOME FLY NIKE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY AIN'T MAKIN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
December 26, 2008 4:49 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESSE COME UP OUT THAT HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DON'T BE ASHAMED OF THEM CELTICS!!!!!! ATLEAST RAJON RONDO HAD ON SOME FLY NIKE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY AIN'T MAKIN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
December 26, 2008 4:49 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

LIONESSE COME UP OUT THAT HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DON'T BE ASHAMED OF THEM CELTICS!!!!!! ATLEAST RAJON RONDO HAD ON SOME FLY NIKE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY AIN'T MAKIN HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
24 MVP
December 26, 2008 4:49 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

Tommy K. said:
Let me ask this... (and this question is for anybody who can answer it...) A lot of us on this board has knowledge and our eyes are open... but where does it go from there? What actions do we take??? Do we continue to live in this corrupt and controlled society and just "deal with it"?
--------

peep-

amiri baraka interview pt1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK_6t3O9iCw
December 26, 2008 4:50 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO J.SHINE NJ RUN NIGGAZ IN SPADES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIGHT UP THEM BLUNTS....POP THAT CIROC & CLIQUOT!!!!! AND LET THE SPADES GAME BEGIN
December 26, 2008 4:52 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO J.SHINE NJ RUN NIGGAZ IN SPADES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIGHT UP THEM BLUNTS....POP THAT CIROC & CLIQUOT!!!!! AND LET THE SPADES GAME BEGIN
December 26, 2008 4:52 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

DRINKS FOR THE NEW YEAR: CIROC & CLIQUOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 4:53 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

DRINKS FOR THE NEW YEAR: CIROC & CLIQUOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 4:53 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

DRINKS FOR THE NEW YEAR: CIROC & CLIQUOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 4:53 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

DRINKS FOR THE NEW YEAR: CIROC & CLIQUOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 4:53 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

DRINKS FOR THE NEW YEAR: CIROC & CLIQUOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26, 2008 4:53 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

@ hotnuknowit

Peace



HoodProphet said:


aye, you got a good question about "what do we do from here"

out it like this.  it took 100s of years to make us ass backwards.  hopefully it dont take that long for us to set it right.

the best we can do now, is expose the lies.  encourage the truth.  

the more people search for knowledge and reject the mainstream social programming, the less it has power.   we all collectively have to create the reality we want thru our thoughts and actions.   and spreading the knowledge

also keep ya eyes and ears open to underground circles.  most the good movements start that way.  if i get a real good one going or become a part of one i can spread.  i got u.
-----------------------------------------------------


No doubt... I just hope that enough people open there eyes before it's too late... oic you already have a yahoo account... well that's whats up, check out the thread when you get time.
December 26, 2008 4:53 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO SHINE YOU HEARD WHAT STYLES SAID: THEY SAY STOP THE VIOLENCE BUT I GOTTA JOIN IN IT"
December 26, 2008 4:54 PM
 

Killa2thaB said:

@BFG: Nah,  a "Boston" is winning ALL 13 books. A "pound" is gettin 10 books. Also, that is the correct penalty for renegin. Whatchu know bout some bid wist?
December 26, 2008 4:54 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@jubilee shine

naw jube.  it aint that simple.  u cant just write it off like that.

them dudes was all chummy in that vid.  you would have thought brack and bill clinton aint have no prior relations before this last election season.  how they was beefing.

or bush sr.   barack got elected by effectively throwing bush under the bus.

i aint saying he all in what the deal is.  but i will say, i am checkin for it.  as much as i like dude, I never blindly follow nuttin.  

hope for the best, prepare for the worst.    
December 26, 2008 4:55 PM
 

BlackSean said:

*braze:  Yeah, you might be the next defendant in 'Homie Court" for that confession

Can't play Spades?!!  

Don't get me wrong~ Im a Dominologist... I play for bread & meat/if I don't win, I don't eat!!  But Spades is quicker & waay more shit gets talked....gotta be drunk enuff to follow what suit lead, roundtrip tix to Boston....


Dem bones is cool becuz everybody got their own slang when slapping the table

5- "fish & bread', Nick Cage
10- Attention, tennis shoes, strike 'em up, Malcolm X
15- 'Ten hoes & five pimps'
20- Dubs on the 'Lac, titties/double D's

Scoring same as whoevr lead- "Follow that cab~it got dope in it!"
December 26, 2008 4:55 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

A Hood Prophet, are u a Mason
cuzz the science u droppin is called The Luciferian Doctrine
sure u haven't been conditioned into beleiving that??
In this doctrine Lucifer= the so called light u speak of, but through all your vast knowledge and research u would know that right??

The Bible and the Quran are the two greatest works ever written, get wit it or get lost.

And yes Allah, YWHW, Elohim is a jealous God, have you ever loved someone or something (especially if your a parent) and wanted there love back, not only wanted but expected it, if u didnt get it would'nt jealousy be a natural reaction expecially if they are showering there affection on a liar who is not worthy of it (material things, liers, theives, LUCIFER)

ahhh u tell us to go deep, but your understanding of the Almighty is so shallow, knowledge is flawed and limited, worst of all its based on a 90 minute documentary.

I don't know everything, but i definatley can smell stool stew when its cookin.
Prophet?!? yeah okay....
December 26, 2008 4:55 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

whats them jailhouse rules?????
--

yeah.

it move the game cuz it make u bid proper & not throw off books.
December 26, 2008 4:57 PM
 

Killa2thaB said:

@BFG: A "pound" on the 1st hand or a "Boston" anytime means "get yo ass up & let some mo niggaz play.lol
December 26, 2008 4:57 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

lol@ken masters

aye give me a minute.

cuz if i beat jube in chess while removing ur head from ur ass.

he might feel bad that i can do all that at once.

but the answer is no.  im not a mason, nor study luciferian doctrine.   be right back.


did my knowledge blindly offend you?  or u just naturally that ignorant in discussion?  give me a minute
December 26, 2008 5:04 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

ken masters and his rigid, aggressive, religious views

are a prime example of why we have so many wars in the world.
December 26, 2008 5:06 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

im not offended bra, im just settin the record strait. but yeah look up that doctrine. i  been where u at, im just triena speed up and improve ya train of thought

December 26, 2008 5:08 PM
 

BlackSean said:

That's funny as hell...

My homeboy just text me... "Spades/Bones party, my house @ 7"

Just spoke that shit into existance!!  

Shomma-na-ny, a-Shomma-na-hunda!!

Ms HotMama:  Im good... just wondering 'why is today a work day?"  

Mon, Tues & Fri??  Same sched next week.... shameful shit.  Most I did all day was show up on time.  Whassup w/you, suga?

Butta P:  I see you, Sis... hope ya holidays went smoothly.  Bet you cooked up a gang of food, huh?

HP, Killa, mu$h, Hustlin (when you get back from Costco's).. whats good?  Glad the convo lightened up a lil.... decided to sit out anyting religious/spiritual/political  

Don't even wanna be here today... let alone engage in thought-provoking convo



TommyK:  Might havta check ya out.... nobody in my circle plays Chess so Im hella rusty.  Ain't got down in ~ damn, 5+ yrs
December 26, 2008 5:08 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

rigid and agressive?? damn homie your "knowledge" that u kick is just as bad as ya hair cut, i was gone get my debate on whichu, but u done ODed on the corny radar.  Now whats rigid and agressive about my views exactly? the hand of God is a strong one.
December 26, 2008 5:11 PM
 

B*braze said:

BlackSean said:
*braze:  Yeah, you might be the next defendant in 'Homie Court" for that confession

Can't play Spades?!!  

Don't get me wrong~ Im a Dominologist... I play for bread & meat/if I don't win, I don't eat!!  But Spades is quicker & waay more shit gets talked....gotta be drunk enuff to follow what suit lead, roundtrip tix to Boston....
***********************************

thats what im sayin... the shit talkin be on a different level. i cant deal with that while im still learnin. if im good and i can talk shit back thats different. must be that 'fragile male ego' shit BFG be talkin bout...

then you gotta play teams too?! i know how hard I be goin when a fool on my team blow a layup, so i dont like to be the one draggin the team down.

have ya'll lookin at me sideways, like i aint a man kuz i fucked up a card game. hahaha. ya'll gotta treat me with kid gloves the first few games until i get it or ill quit.

i mean you can demolish me in the game, just dont rub it in until im able to hold my own.

but i know with black folk that aint even possible
December 26, 2008 5:12 PM
 

BlackSean said:

Killa:  Nah, Boston is winning 10 books

whoevr you playing against gotta get up becuz you gotta have @ least 4 books to get on board

3 books:  You shorter than a midget on his knees... rise & fly, pimpin"!!

Bid whist is sum bullshit~ prolly becuz I can't catch on & gave up trying.

Uptown, downtown, kitty, trumps changing per hand..... thats too much thinking when Im drinking
December 26, 2008 5:13 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

aye dont tell nobody but jube losin.

so i got a minute to make another snide remark.


ken masters  makes me understand how socrates, copernicus, galileo, the innocent women considered witches, etc.


how they all felt when they introduced an idea that wasnt congruent with the social programming dictated and trained (not educated)

into society.
December 26, 2008 5:15 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

what up my good brotha HP,

I see you dropping knowledge.

But all knowledge is not good knowledge.  A man can become so wise that he thinks like a fool.

There's lots of demonic knowledge out there that comes straight from the serpent's mouth.

Ask Yahweh God to reveal the truth to you and I gaunrante he will answer your prayers in Jesus name.

Shalom.
December 26, 2008 5:15 PM
 

Killa2thaB said:

What up Black Sean?
December 26, 2008 5:18 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

see HP u didnt introdude anything, u a son, u spittin regergitated opinions. im not here to "win" anything. i jus gotta provide the yin to that yang.
December 26, 2008 5:21 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

shit, i dont really gotta say no mo, ya boy seventh finished nicely
December 26, 2008 5:23 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

both of you brothers (ken masters and seventh seal)

before severely attempting to slander me with your accusations must point the the "negative knowledge"

i dropped on this board.     what if anything did i see here today that wouldnt be useful to people in a positive light?

yall got to be kidding me with the slanderng language:

luciferian, serpent knowledge, demonic, etc

thats the language that has always been used to cast out anything that isnt with the program.

im sure yall see why i would have a problem with that.  if yall want to have a discussion, we can.  

knowledge is always invited on my end.  but respect is the commodity of peace.
December 26, 2008 5:23 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

Where will the beautiful celebrity woman go who refuse to serve the Almighty God?


In the next pit was a woman on her knees, as if looking for something. Her skeletal form also was full of holes. Her bones were showing through, and her torn dress was on fire. Her head was bald, and there were only holes where her eyes and nose were supposed to be. A small fire was burning around her feet where she was kneeling, and she clawed the sides of the brimstone pit. The fire clung to her hands, and dead flesh kept falling off as she dug.

Tremendous sobs shook her. "O Lord, O Lord," she cried, "I want out." As we watched, she finally got to the top of the pit with her feet. I thought she was going to get out when a large demon with great wings that seemed to be broken at the top and hung down his sides ran to her. His color was brownish black, and he had hair all over his large form. His eyes were set far back into his head, and he was about the size of a large grizzly bear. The demon rushed up to the woman and pushed her very hard backward into the pit and fire. I watched in horror as she fell. I felt so sorry for her. I wanted to take her into my arms and hold her, to ask God to heal her and take her out of there.

Jesus knew my thoughts and said, "My child, judgment has been set. God has spoken. Even when she was a child, I called and called her to repent and to serve Me. When she was sixteen years old, I came to her and said, 'I love you. Give your life to Me, and come follow Me, for I have called you for a special purpose: I called all her life, but she would not listen. She said, 'Someday I will serve You. I have no time for You now. No time, no time, I have my life of fun. No time, no time to serve You, Jesus. Tomorrow I will.' Tomorrow never came, for she waited too long."

The woman cried out to Jesus, "My soul is truly in torment. There is no way out. I know that I wanted the world instead of You, Lord. I wanted riches, fame and fortune, and I got it. I could buy anything I wanted; I was my own boss. I was the prettiest, best-dressed woman of my time. And I had riches, fame and fortune, but I found I could not take them with me in death. O Lord, hell is horrible.

I have no rest day or night. I am always in pain and torment. Help me, Lord," she cried.

The woman looked up at Jesus so longingly and said, "My sweet Lord, if only I had listened to you! I will regret that forever. I planned to serve You someday-when I got ready. I thought You would always be there for me. But how wrong I was! I was one of the most sought-after women of my time for my beauty. I knew God was calling me to repent. All my life He drew me with cords of love, and I thought I could use God like I used everyone else. He would always be there. Oh yes, I used God! He would try so hard to get me to serve Him, while all the time I thought I didn't need Him. Oh, how wrong I was! For Satan began to use me, and I began to serve Satan more and more. At the last I loved him more than God. I loved to sin and would not turn to God.

"Satan used my beauty and my money, and all my thoughts turned to how much power he would give me. Even then, God continued to draw me. But I thought, I have tomorrow or the next day. Then one day while riding in a car, my driver ran into a house, and I was killed. Lord, please let me out." As she spoke her bony hands and arms reached out to Jesus while the flames continued to burn her.

Jesus said, "The judgment is set."

December 26, 2008 5:26 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

In Latin, the word "Lucifer", meaning "Light-Bringer" (from lux, lucis, "light", and ferre, "to bear, bring"), is a name for the "Morning Star" (the planet Venus in its dawn appearances).[2] The Latin Vulgate version of the Bible used this word twice to refer to the Morning Star: once in 2 Peter 1:19 to translate the Greek word "Φωσφόρος" (Phosphoros), which has exactly the same literal meaning of "Light-Bringer" that "Lucifer" has in Latin; and once in Isaiah 14:12 to translate "הילל" (Hêlēl), which also means "Morning Star". In the latter passage the title of "Morning Star" is given to the tyrannous Babylonian king, who the prophet says is destined to fall.
December 26, 2008 5:26 PM
 

Killa2thaB said:

Gotta disagree Black Sean. I've always been taught that a Boston is all 13. So what do yall call that (gettin ALL 13 books). BTW, Bid wist go hard too. I learned how to play both when I was 10 or 11. My folks usta have some hellified card parties. I should be in the olympics for Spades and Tunk on the real.
December 26, 2008 5:28 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

The Jewish Encyclopedia states that the Lucifer myth was transferred to Satan already in the pre-Christian century, citing in support of this view the Life of Adam and Eve and the Slavonic Book of Enoch[15], where Satan-Sataniel (sometimes identified with Samael) is described as having been one of the archangels. Because he contrived "to make his throne higher than the clouds over the earth and resemble 'My power' on high", Satan-Sataniel was hurled down, with his hosts of angels, and since then he has been flying in the air continually above the abyss.

U a smart dude HP, u gone start connecting the dots soon enough, just be aware of the sources some of this knowledge comes from, cuzz Lucifer is a helluvva hustler and he knows how to talk, espescially to the imperfect souls of men
December 26, 2008 5:30 PM
 

Killa2thaB said:

We should set up a spades app on here. So I can get some of that Paypal from yall.
December 26, 2008 5:30 PM
 

B*braze said:

@hoodp

hahaha... they trynna burn you at the stake now.
December 26, 2008 5:31 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

A message from Yahweh


I am the Creator of heaven and earth, one in divinity with the Father and the Holy Spirit. I am he who spoke to the prophets and the patriarchs, the one whom they awaited. For the sake of their longing and in accordance with my promise, I took flesh without sin, without concupiscence, entering the body of the Virgin like the sun shining through the clearest crystal. The sun does not damage the glass by entering it, nor was the Virgin's virginity lost when I took my human nature. I took flesh but without surrendering my divinity.

I was no less God, ruling and filling all things with the Father and the Holy Spirit, although I, with my human nature, was in the womb of the Virgin. Brightness is never separated from fire, nor was my divinity ever separated from my humanity, not even in death. Next I willed for my pure and sinless body to be wounded from the sole of my foot to the crown of my head for the sins of all men, and to be hung on the cross. It is now offered each day on the altar in order that people might love me more and call to mind my favors more frequently.

Now, however, I am totally forgotten, neglected and scorned, like a king cast out of his own kingdom in whose place a wicked thief has been elected and honored. I wanted my kingdom to be within the human person, and by right I should be king and lord over him, since I made him and redeemed him. Now, however, he has broken and profaned the faith he promised me at baptism. He has violated and rejected the laws I set up for him. He loves his self-will and scornfully refuses to listen to me. Besides, he exalts that most wicked thief, the devil, above me and pledges him his faith. The devil really is a thief, since, by evil temptations and false promises, he steals for himself the human soul that I redeemed with my own blood. It is not because he is more powerful, as it were, than I am that he is able to steal it, since I am so powerful that I can do all things by a single word, and I am so just that I would not commit the least injustice, not even if all the saints asked me to.

However, since man, who has been given free will, voluntarily scorns my commandments and consents to the devil, then it is only just that he should also experience the devil's tyranny. The devil was created good by me but fell through his own wicked will and has, as it were, become my servant for inflicting retribution on the wicked. Although I am now so despised, nevertheless I am still so merciful that I will forgive the sins of any who ask for my mercy and who humble themselves, and I shall free them from the evil thief. But I shall visit my justice upon those who persist in holding me in contempt, and hearing it they will tremble and those who experience it will say: 'Alas, that we were ever born or conceived, alas, that we ever provoked the Lord of majesty to wrath!'
December 26, 2008 5:33 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@HP


I respect you my brotha, but I saw demonic knowledge giving light and I gave a rebuttle.

I'm not against you, just dropping knowledge from my studies just as you did.
December 26, 2008 5:38 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

when people say the Lord is a wrathful jealous god ask your self what does he want (for us to obey his commanments and love oneanother) do we do it, not near enought, so u see what he has a right to be angry over

he wants our love, and he doesnt get it
thats what hes riffin about

just my two cents
December 26, 2008 5:40 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@ken masters

u have done nothing yet, but profess your own ignorance.

you have made several post and have all in all said nothing but ignorance.

what we in elementary school?  did you really just come in here and start name calling with no substance?

i'll give you the opportunity to prove that you sharper than that.  first off, what knowledge are you defending with your excalibur sword?

which religion are you trying to protect?  whats the skinny?
December 26, 2008 5:44 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

dang i gotta catch up again, shit. i hadta walk away mid-comment...


yeah i feel u, Hot Girl. bones cool, its not my favorite cause of some bad past experiences playin. but i can get down if im in the mood.

u learnin poker? its a good game. that was like one of the 1st card games i learnt to play when i was little, my uncles sum cardsharks. LOL

ay but i been thinkin about startin to join the free on-line tourneys to get my practice on. cause u can win hella money on them once u get the hang of it. its a legit hustle.




ay, i feel u, Tommy K. its takes tremendous strength & courage to think outside of one's socialize process.

i think the most that we can do is to focus on our individual process and how it connects us all collectively. also constantly gaining knowledge because that in and of itself is a neverending process. literally shaping and exercising ur mind to be able to tolerate reality.

take baby steps towards really incorporating these deep awarenesses into ur life because it can not be done just easily/simply or quickly. and it requires constant attention.

u must challenge the status quo in ur own way. i think its necessary to establish and cement what is ultimately a major shift in values and beliefs. these things have a huge impact on all aspects of ur life, once fully embraced. however, challenging others is a road that u must tread lightly cause ppl will dismiss it or attempt to act like ur crazy.

ultimately im on the same journey as u right now, i believe we all are whether we know it or not.

i think the greatest thing 1 can do, is to strengthen themself from within and build w/ like-minded ppl. u may have to inevitably let go of the idea that u can help others to see what u now see. but remember that there was prolly a time when u cudnt. so, too, remember what that felt like. it may ease some frustration w/ others.

thats all i can really think of off top.




Jube, now u know that was funny. of course i know disbelief is belief.

but blasphemy & atheists dont go together & that makes it funny. ima check that vid tho. fa sho.





i just know u aint gettin serious, HoodProphet. i was j/p. & u know the shit was funny. but i actually aint know u caught that tho. that makes it even funnier. ;D

but why do i feel like i just got threatened or sum'n? yall see that: "u gon stop callin me the Grinch & mean."

brings out my rebellious side. like im so tempted right now to be like,

and what if i dont stop????? huh???? what u gon do then????? huh????

but in case u really trippin. i wont. alright. whatever.

from what i saw, i actually think i saw those vids b4, sir. (from u?) but i literally was sleepin cause like i said i dont feel well.
i was plannin check them tho 2 make sure or not.





~BFG
December 26, 2008 5:44 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

@HoodProphet said:
God is also male and female at the same time.  masculine and feminine at the same time.  genderless.

the God in the bible is a masculine
-----
Where in the bible does it prove God is masculine?

also you said:
the universe is endless.   actually expanding as we speak.
-----
How can you confirm that the universe is expanding if no one has found the end?  To say something is expanding we must understand that there's an end somewhere.  Is it that it's expanding or are we just realizing the true vastness of it?
------

Someone said that we are born Christian - That's incorrect, christianity is a lifestyle (i.e. a choice);  You can only become a christian by confessing your sins and accepting Christ; you can't do that coming out your mother's womb.



December 26, 2008 5:47 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@seventh

i can respect it.  no doubt.  u drop knowledge and are patient with opposition.  same here.  

my practice is never divisive only inclusive.  i wont tell somebody not to believe something

but i will tell them to consider additional factors when making a decision.  give me a minute to read what you posted.

also, your accusations of demonic knowledge.  thats a serious claim.

i have to ask you to quote me quoting the demon.   so far, you have only dropped some other post.  what part of my actual post do you disagree with?
December 26, 2008 5:47 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

SaluateYaGeneral said:
YO SHINE YOU HEARD WHAT STYLES SAID: THEY SAY STOP THE VIOLENCE BUT I GOTTA JOIN IN IT"
------

all that matterz wut direction u aim......
December 26, 2008 5:50 PM
 

BlackSean said:

Killa:  In retrospect, I can't answer that pimpin..... becuz once we get to 10 books, its time to rise & fly.  We never play the hand out.  

Lowest you can bid is 4 (unless you in the hole & go "blind")
After we hit 10, the other 3 books don't matter...the other team throw they hand in & gotta make the 'store run'

Now Tunk.... low hand drop, 49/50... whatchu wanna do??  Mess around & claim you on my taxes, Sun!!  Lol!


You from the same era Im from, I see.... them basement card parties back in the day used to be legendary.  Me & my circle try keep that shit going.. kids sneaking down, getting screamed on like we did as shorties

"We just wanna get sum pop/juice"

"That ain't no damn pop/juice..... that's chaser!!"
December 26, 2008 5:50 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

A message from Yahweh


There are three kinds of people who serve me in this world. The first are the ones who believe me to be God and the giver of all things who has power over everything. They serve me with the intention of obtaining temporal goods and honor, but the things of heaven are as nothing to them, and they would just as soon lose them so that they can obtain present goods. Worldly success in everything falls to their share, according to their wishes. Since they have lost the eternal goods, I recompense them with temporal comforts for whatever good service they do for me, right down to the last farthing and their very last moment. The second are the ones who believe me to be God almighty and a strict judge, but who serve me out of fear of punishment and not out of love of heavenly glory. If they did not fear me, they would not serve me.

The third are the ones who believe me to be the Creator of all things and true God and who believe me to be just and merciful. They do not serve me out of any fear of punishment but out of divine love and charity. They would prefer any punishment, if they could bear it, rather than once provoke me to anger. They truly deserve to be heard when they pray, since their will accords with my will. The first kind of servant will never depart from punishment or get to see my face. The second will not be punished as much but will still not get to see my face, unless he corrects his fear through penitence.
December 26, 2008 5:50 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

Jube, now u know that was funny. of course i know disbelief is belief.

but blasphemy & atheists dont go together & that makes it funny. ima check that vid tho. fa sho.
------

;\i
December 26, 2008 5:51 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

at HP if erthang i jus said to u proves no point and all u see me triena do is protect a religion (im triena help get u on the right track) then ima start arguin with u, because i see your a fool.

this is'nt about no damn religion, if it wasnt a message board, i would just let u think that concucted bull shit u think, but im just triena set the record strait for any people u may be misleading on here with your gibberish bullshit

There is but one God, he knows no religous boundaries, Religion is something man made to "help" God serve their own political agendas.

Get ya panties out a bunch, u just got intellectually shitted on by somebody who just be talkin shit

smh@ false prophit
December 26, 2008 5:52 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

HoodProphet said:
aye dont tell nobody but jube losin.
----

ha ha u aint right
December 26, 2008 5:53 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

smh @ False Prophet buying right into the Luciferian Theorys Doctrine and not even knowing it
December 26, 2008 5:55 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@ken masters

you really making yourself out to be a child.  how can u possibly com on here and say you trying to educate when the first few statements coming from you were insults.

your a classic case or fearing what you dont understand.

but listen, your beliefs are safe from me.  i wont take them rom you i promise.  matter fact you can even skip my post.  

I give you permission
December 26, 2008 6:02 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

 
HoodProphet said:
@jubilee shine

naw jube.  it aint that simple.  u cant just write it off like that.

them dudes was all chummy in that vid.  you would have thought brack and bill clinton aint have no prior relations before this last election season.  how they was beefing.

or bush sr.   barack got elected by effectively throwing bush under the bus.

i aint saying he all in what the deal is.  but i will say, i am checkin for it.  as much as i like dude, I never blindly follow nuttin.  
------

i mean we talkin bout a select circle of 100 senators & few ex-prez.  they not at war wit each other no more than the US olympic bballers.  come reg pro season they at each other.  but aside from that, they golfin & passin maritinis.

how cd obama & bubba not had been cool?  hillary a senator, barack a senator...  they at the same table...

obama aint say much bad about w.  or mccain or hillary.

he jes ran a tight campaign & more in tune with the folk...
December 26, 2008 6:04 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

False Prophet u mad sensitive yo, u need a hug
December 26, 2008 6:05 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

naw bfg, I aint trippin.  i peeped why u was sayin that.  u funny.  but aye, them vids from yesterday got a lil different info in there than the ones before.  specially around vid 5 and 6 when they break down queen liz and how the british thrown still owns the US.  they say US presidents are forbidden from using names like king, lord, or sir.  due to being subservient to the thrown.


@Climbing Higher

you pose legitimate questions.

I say the God in the bible is masculine because he has the attributes of an authoritative male with pride and jealousy.

and that I disagree with that interpretation because I consider God to be ultimate and beyond those types of traits.

i dont feel that God gets upset if people dont prey to it or kneel to it.  something absolute doesnt have to be reminded it is (in my view).  

but aye, i respect your interpretation of the entity as well, i just disagree


and as far as the universe expanding.   u ever see the findings of the hubble telescope?  the million or so galaxies?  (not planets, but galaxies)

also the fact that suns and planets and other masses are being formed all the time.   just check out science and nasa sometimes.

the universe huge.  we may need a million or so more bibles to accurately depict it.  (imo)



the expanding universe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyxy6fu8SC8&feature=related
December 26, 2008 6:08 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

HoodProphet said:

the God in the bible seems to be mans interpretation of a God who and how he wants it to be.   by thats all part of being omni-potent and omni-present, so to each its own.

God who you want it to be.  
-----------------
some say he was is india studying the crafts of bhuddhism.


there does seem to be similarities between ghandi, king, and christ.
----------------
which Jesus are you talking about?

the one created after the council of nicea?

the white one in photos?

or the one who shares a similar story with many gods before him?


matter fact, lets settle this by going to his grave and getting the info ourselves.   where is it located?

or his mother's grave, or any relatives for that matter?

or lets ask the many historians who ignored his existence?
----------------

mightest well discuss it in the month of the celebration of the Sun God  (Gods Sun/Son)
-----------------



Those are your comments that mocked God.

Now since we're on a computer I can't tell if you were asking  legitimate questions or being sarcastic.  I wish we could have this convo face to face.

But this convo has to be continued...I gotta vamp out.
December 26, 2008 6:13 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

aye, i just want to tell yall (esp ken masters)

the days where masta and them hid books and knowledge from us so we can stay cotton slaves, are long gone

now we are debt slaves.

they dont care if u do the knowledge on all the disinformation they gave us in the past.   in some cases, we even allowed now to trace back our roots.

oprah found hers.  go get urns.

they unlocked all the secrets on why this and that was chosen for the masses to believe.  and why this and that was forbidden.   all you got to do is look for it now.

dont need no underground railroad or nuttin.  


he even let u study and understand black knowledge that claim prior to all the religions.   i mean we were a civilization before all that happened.

and we functioned well without it.  had science, math, and electricity

u name it.  we did it.


i think is was chris rock who said:

"first we had all the gold and resources and white people had all the bibles.  now we got all the bibles and they got all the gold and resources.   sound like somebody been had to me"

either him or i think dl hughley aid it.  (nonetheless, the message is clear)
December 26, 2008 6:21 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

*DEAD* @ yeah thems jailhouse rules, Jube.

i knew it. and i feel the logic 2.



i was thinkin along the same lines as RockSean about Bostons, Killa2ThaB. u know ppl play different dependin on where u at.

and im sure that is the correct penalty for reneging, too, i lightweight remember that being the said rule. 30 pts. but im just sayin every time that i saw that happen in real life, SMH game was truly over. LMAO

now bid wist, i just know bout it from the old heads, they used rather play that than Spades. ive played. but ya know, i preferred Spades myself. u play bid wist?



RockSean said:

That's funny as hell...

My homeboy just text me... "Spades/Bones party, my house @ 7"

Just spoke that shit into existance!!  

Shomma-na-ny, a-Shomma-na-hunda!!


*********

hella funny. ay im good tho. u 2? u know what i didnt have to cook hella much. Xmas we just have gumbo & as the main meal. appetizers & desserts. so i actually got to chill more than usual.

oh yeah and 5 = nick the greek, the po man freak

10 = tennessee tottie, all the ______ in the party

(fill in the blank)



LMAO @ B*Braze talkin bout: "must be that 'fragile male ego' shit BFG be talkin bout..." hahahahaha

and

"@hoodp

hahaha... they trynna burn you at the stake now."


*********

they tryna crucify da boah? im sure he knows that ppl oppose his perspective.


ay, but this is real right here:

HP said:

"luciferian, serpent knowledge, demonic, etc

thats the language that has always been used to cast out anything that isnt with the program."

**********

so true. as a way to shape & influence the minds of others. and the other favorite tactic: fear.


so, ay, 7th, whaddup?

interesting what u posted about the female. but the message seems completely rooted in fear. in addition, it makes me think of the common assumption that many religious ppl believe:

people who do not subscribe to organized religion are immoral. have no innate sense of right and wrong.

what do u think of this idea? is it true to u?

but back to the female, i noticed that there was not one mention made of her mind or her potential natural inclination towards virtuosity or self-actualization.

all i saw repeatedly was: "my beauty, my money, my fame, my fortune, and references towards being coveted and using others."

is this the natural inclination of woman, without Jesus and Christianity? and if so, is that the best way to teach women to be virtuous, thru threats of being abandoned by Jesus, relegated to a fiery pit in Hell?

this is what i mean about taking things to literally in reference to the Bible.





~BFG
December 26, 2008 6:25 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@seventh seal

thank you for actually posting something you felt was insulting.

i can understand your concern.

to answer your question.  yes, those are actual questions.  they had a bit of a sarcastic tone to them, because that discussion was with hustlinupnorth and he had some sarcastic things to say prior.

ii have this tendency to match people with the same energy they give off.   but nonetheless, no offense to anybody's beliefs.  those are legitimate questions and I apologize if you felt it came off offensive.

I feel you on being hard to converse or the computer.

but I will say seventh, that as long as i am met with respect I give it.   you and i rarely have an issue with these discussions.

my father is a sunni muslim.  I grew up in a christian household.  and heavily influenced by christianity due to its dominance in our society.  its all around me.

so Im more concerned with the flow of knowledge an ideas rather than insults.  

but I am guilty of throwing a punch or two in self defense.
December 26, 2008 6:29 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

Silent Night

by Amiri Baraka

whenever the devil is disguised as god

he is called santa claus.
December 26, 2008 6:33 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

Culture

by Amiri Baraka

European Jews say the devil speak perfect german

Black Americans, on the other hand, say

he speak pretty good english too!
December 26, 2008 6:35 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

Geobolical

by Amiri Baraka

according to the devil

when he was first thrown out of heaven

he landed in England.

I believe him!
December 26, 2008 6:40 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

LMAO @ ;\i

leave it 2 Jube to create a smiley w/ a cigarillo hangin out his mouf. or is that burna? LOL ay, i like him. and he needs the one-eye squint too.



yeah, HP, i thought that was a good 1. i am kinda funny sumtimes. but yeah ima check them vids out tho. see what they talkin bout. sounds interesting.





~BFG
December 26, 2008 6:47 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

i hope the people on this site reasoning about God are not black..im not being racist,but christianity is the white mans and basic GENTILE religion.The so called AFRICAN AMERICAN is BIBLICAL ISRAEL..and his whole history is told in the TORAH and GOSPEL. Its funny to me when the so called Christian seeks to defend a questionable religion.As far as FREEMASONRY is concerned...if you are a Christian..you are a Mason.The disciples of Yashua were Israel.Constantine who made JEEZUES..was a mason called server of SOL INVICTUS..all the SUN WORSHIPPERS attended the council of NICEA and formulated a SUN GOD all can agree upon.=Catholic CHURCH..UNIVERSAL..how can CHRISTIANITY and MASONRY be separated..when they are the same thing?..JEZUES is horus,osiris,tammuz,adonis,bel,baal,and every other SUN god...the masonic god HIRAM ABIFF is at the same time JEEZUES=jebelum,jebelo,jebela..a trinity god...dying and resurrecting "savior"...and the Gentile goes to church on SUN day and calls Lucifer the SUN of GOD..which he is=fallen angel=GEN 6 vs 2. to poke more holes...in the beginning of BIBLE..God is not called Yahweh..that name was revealed to moses.at the Mountain..no patriarch has Yah in their name...but EL only...EL SHADDAI=ALMIGHTY GOD,BethEL,Eliphaz..etc..Hagar the AFRICAN wife of African(SUMER) Abraham called GOD EL ROI=God of Vison...EL is hebrew for arabic ALLAH=GOD...so Adam the 1st people of GOD called GOD ELOAH/ALLAH..as stated in TORAH....and GOSPEL..Mark 15 vs 34..Yashua said "ELOI..ELOI"=aramaic..or syriac for GOD!...Get right or DIE in your sins!..all the righteous call upon ALLAH YAHWEH!..from ADAM,TO YASHUA to MOHAMMED. The Christian makes it very clear ,he does not serve EL,ALLAH/YAHWEH..so who is his god?.....he is waiting for JEZUES return..who returns every morning as the morning sun=HEYLAL?LUCIFER...the KING OF KINGS AND LION OF JUDAH IS HIS IMPERIAL MAJESTY..HAILE SELASSIE I THE 1ST..THE ROOT AND OFFSPRING OF DAVID AND THE KING OF ISRAEL!..THE ETHIOPIAN=ISRAEL..IS THE SAME AS THE SO CALLED AFRICAN AMERICAN=ISRAEL=AMOS VS 9" ARE NOT YOU(AFRO AMERICAN)..AND THE CUSHITES(ETHIOPIAN) ALL THE SAME TO ME SONS OF ISRAEL"?...ISRAEL STAND UP FOR YOUR GOD..GET OUT OF BABYLON MINDSET...
December 26, 2008 6:49 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

@HoodProphet

I'll have to check out that video on the expanding universe. i think the subject is an agree to disagree convo but I like to know where know where people get the facts behind their statements before jumping head first in to anything.

the bible does depict God as authoritative and jealous but I don't think he is because he needs to be reminded of himself (b/c he doesn't). and I don't think we can accurately place a gender on God.
----------------------------------------------------------
The Seventh Seal said:
A message from Yahweh


There are three kinds of people who serve me in this world. The first are the ones who believe me to be God and the giver of all things who has power over everything. They serve me with the intention of obtaining temporal goods and honor, but the things of heaven are as nothing to them, and they would just as soon lose them so that they can obtain present goods. Worldly success in everything falls to their share, according to their wishes. Since they have lost the eternal goods, I recompense them with temporal comforts for whatever good service they do for me, right down to the last farthing and their very last moment. The second are the ones who believe me to be God almighty and a strict judge, but who serve me out of fear of punishment and not out of love of heavenly glory. If they did not fear me, they would not serve me.

The third are the ones who believe me to be the Creator of all things and true God and who believe me to be just and merciful. They do not serve me out of any fear of punishment but out of divine love and charity. They would prefer any punishment, if they could bear it, rather than once provoke me to anger. They truly deserve to be heard when they pray, since their will accords with my will. The first kind of servant will never depart from punishment or get to see my face. The second will not be punished as much but will still not get to see my face, unless he corrects his fear through penitence.


where did you get this from?
December 26, 2008 6:56 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

@JUDAH NAZURA
what is your definition, understanding, or interpretation of what christianity is?
December 26, 2008 6:58 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

ALLAH YAHWEH IS 1....AND HIS CREATION HE SET FORTH THRU THE NUMBER 9 WHICH ENCOMPASSES ALL THINGS=360 DEGREES=9.....CREATION IS FROM GODS LIGHT..AND IS SHOWN THRU THE NUMBER 9....JAH TOLD ABE HIS PPL=AFRICAN AMERICAN ISRAEL WOULD BE IN CAPTIVITY FOR 400 YEARS....EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL=360...IN CAPTIVITY..400 YEARS..MULTIPLIED=144,000...EQUALS 9....THE SUN WORSHIPPERS SAY THAT ALLAH YAHWEH IS A MOON GOD RIGHT?....THE MOON,CALLED YERED/TSIDKENU-RIGHTEOSNESS AND IS THE GATEWAY TO HEAVEN..HENCE THE 7 TH DAY SABBATH..FEAST DAYS AND HOLY DAYS OF THE TORAH ARE LUNAR..WATER,CREATION,REGENERATION ETC..ARE CONNECTED TO THE MOON..JOHN THE BAPTISTE AND BAPTISM OR RENEWAL..BEING BORN AGAIN..DIVINE MIND...ON THE TREE OF LIFE..THE MOON IS THE 9 TH PLANET AND IS INDICATIVE OF THE CREATIVE UNITS OF MAN AND WOMAN..YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN...A CUBIT OF SOLOMONS TEMPLE IS 18 INCHES-9...AND THE HOLY KORAN ITSELF BEARS WITNESS TO YAHWEHS NUMBERZ OF 9 AND 19....YOU MUST KNOW YOUR MATH..AND THE HISTORY OF THINGS..MATHMATICS IS NOT DUE TO OPINION AND SELF BELEIFS....YOUR MASON /CHRISTIAN UNDERSTANDS THE MATH..BUT HE IS IN REBELLION AGAINST GOD AND WILL NOT SUBMIT...SO STOP WITH THE MESSAGE FROM YAHWEH BLASPHEMY....KNOWTHYSELF AND YOULL SHALL UNDERSTAND CREATION..AND YOUR CREATOR!
December 26, 2008 7:14 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

heaven appeared with property

god with slavery

                     --amiri baraka
December 26, 2008 7:15 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

CLIMBING HIGHER I HAVE POSTED..IT IS NOT MY OPINION...IT IS SHOWN IN THE UNIVERSE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE EYES TO SEE.Christianity deviated from the straight path..how can you have paganism and the truth mixed...this is precisely what masonry teaches...it has some truth..so the initiate doesnt see the crookedness at first..but the farther you go..you see it..but yur eyes and heart become blinded..so that when the truth is shown to you..you cant/wont beleive it..this is called enchantment or WITCHCRAFT!....JEZUES was supposedly crucified on GOOD friday..buried 3 days and 3 night s right?...tampered Masonic KING JAMES gospel says he came out of "TOMB"=masonic grave of hiram abiff..before sunrise on 1st DAY-SUN day..do your math...friday to sunday is a 1 day and a half..or precisely 36 hours..REV 13..it is the number of a man..666
December 26, 2008 7:22 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

my mother created me
















i ono how yall do
December 26, 2008 7:31 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

need a goddam slide rule to keep up witchyall super/stitchings
December 26, 2008 7:38 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

heaven on earth to niggaz is a ....PORK CHOP and a WHITE WOMAN
December 26, 2008 7:49 PM
 

DABIZ said:

Air Jordan XX3 “Finale” Pictures only 500 made http://www.atlnightspots.com/air-jordan-xx3-%e2%80%9cfinale%e2%80%9d/
December 26, 2008 7:50 PM
 

BlackSean said:

Good thing K.Beans ain't in here today....


...she'd be throwing an "Aunt Ester" holy ghost tantrum right 'bout now!!









(Don't tell her crusty-butt I said that!)

Weekend's here... headin to the "refreshment" store, then to go get down on sum table games

Keep it safe... catch y'all Monday
December 26, 2008 7:54 PM
 

B*braze said:

damn judah just came wit it...

December 26, 2008 7:58 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

JUDAH NAZURA said:
i hope the people on this site reasoning about God are not black..im not being racist,but christianity is the white mans and basic GENTILE religion.The so called AFRICAN AMERICAN is BIBLICAL ISRAEL

YOUR MASON /CHRISTIAN UNDERSTANDS THE MATH..BUT HE IS IN REBELLION AGAINST GOD AND WILL NOT SUBMIT...SO STOP WITH THE MESSAGE FROM YAHWEH BLASPHEMY
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If you talking to me say my name.  

First of all I am a so-called black man.  But like you said we are biblical Israel from the tribe of Judah.  All 12 tribes of Israel are people of color.

Christian means Christ-like.  A Christian tries to live their life according to the way Christ showed us how to live while he walked earth.

So you can call me a hebrew Israelite or Christian.  I worship the one and only Holy God.

Christians are NOT Masons.

true Christians worship the God the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit.

Masons worship the SUN and Lucifer.

The Devil has infultrated the church to confuse everyone.  The Pope and all them are currupt.  Satan has deceived to world to set up his temporary kingdom when the anti-christ shows his face.

And you can talk all that math and numbers but numbers won't get you to heaven.  Only Jesus/Yahshua.

Also study of Numerology is demonic.  Certain numbers can attract demonic spirits.  But at the same time I also know that numbers is important to God.

With God a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day.  It has been aproximately 6,000 years from the creation of Adam or 6 days.  And in Revelation it talks about the 1,000 year millenium rule that will be on earth.  

Add that 6,000 years with the 1,000 and you get 7,000 years or 7 days.  God's perfect and complete number.

The 144,000:  those are the amount of Jews God will have witnessing around the world during the Great Tribulation.

Soon will Jesus/Yahsuha return.  And with him he will had out rewards to his faithful saints.  Some will become rulers over the many galaxies mankind is discovering.  

But for the non-believers and workers of inequity, their soul is reserved for the lake of fire.

Don't accuse me of Blasphemy...Because you, me and all mankind has a limited mind and will never know everything concerning Yahweh.

Shalom.

December 26, 2008 7:58 PM
 

BabyNigga said:

All yall fukin bitches on here. yall sum hoes.

F2000/wilin/drivin an smilin/spittin dem roundz, an yall nggz iz clowns : )
December 26, 2008 8:09 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

true Christians worship the God the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit.
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& the mother?

property done mortalized her.
December 26, 2008 8:12 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

The Seventh Seal said:
A message from Yahweh


There are three kinds of people who serve me in this world. The first are the ones who believe me to be God and the giver of all things who has power over everything. They serve me with the intention of obtaining temporal goods and honor, but the things of heaven are as nothing to them, and they would just as soon lose them so that they can obtain present goods. Worldly success in everything falls to their share, according to their wishes. Since they have lost the eternal goods, I recompense them with temporal comforts for whatever good service they do for me, right down to the last farthing and their very last moment. The second are the ones who believe me to be God almighty and a strict judge, but who serve me out of fear of punishment and not out of love of heavenly glory. If they did not fear me, they would not serve me.

The third are the ones who believe me to be the Creator of all things and true God and who believe me to be just and merciful. They do not serve me out of any fear of punishment but out of divine love and charity. They would prefer any punishment, if they could bear it, rather than once provoke me to anger. They truly deserve to be heard when they pray, since their will accords with my will. The first kind of servant will never depart from punishment or get to see my face. The second will not be punished as much but will still not get to see my face, unless he corrects his fear through penitence.
------------------------------------------------------------

TRUE service is TRUE service. a lot of people can say they serve God just like a lot of people say they are Christian but like the bible says you can a man by its fruits. there are different levels of punishment based on your service; you either believe in God or you don't; you're either going to heaven or hell. there's no in between - it's either black or white.

ALL will see God's face at judgment but on those few will live with him in heaven.

I don't get this some with escape punishment, some will encounter a little bit... HUH?

to be a TRUE servant of God you must repent anway so this "corrects his fear through penitence" statement is wrong in itself
December 26, 2008 8:14 PM
 

BabyNigga said:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Squares . im fuked up i need doe i been broke fo years fo reel prolems makin me wanna kill ngz
December 26, 2008 8:15 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

Yahweh said to study and learned to show thyself approved. He also said His servant Priest Messiah of Israel is dead and has died like all men...see you are under a spell..there is no heaven to get to..heaven is in thy mind and heart..or within..Yahweh will create a new earth where the righteous shall dwell..you are expecting to enter some far off distant place..therefore you have not understood the Gospel nor Torah or Quran..you must be born again in this life...Yashua came to teach Divine knowledge to Israel and he died like all men...you worship JEEZUES..no man is coming TO SAVE YOU..theres no GOD BUT ALLAH YAHWEH!..stop the tricknowledge!...Yahweh created all numbers for man to reflect on HIS creation..and HE ENCOMPASSES ALL THINGS..you are pagan minded beleiving in man saviour gods..learn the scripture and understand numbers..the bible teaches mathematics as well..but i see you prefer the spell...Wicked Israelites....and if 7 were the only perfect number..we wouldnt have 9..360..full circle..LEARN TO COUNT!
December 26, 2008 8:16 PM
 

DABIZ said:

December 26, 2008 8:21 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

JUDAH NAZURA said:
CLIMBING HIGHER I HAVE POSTED..IT IS NOT MY OPINION...IT IS SHOWN IN THE UNIVERSE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE EYES TO SEE.Christianity deviated from the straight path..how can you have paganism and the truth mixed...this is precisely what masonry teaches...it has some truth..so the initiate doesnt see the crookedness at first..but the farther you go..you see it..but yur eyes and heart become blinded..so that when the truth is shown to you..you cant/wont beleive it..this is called enchantment or WITCHCRAFT!....JEZUES was supposedly crucified on GOOD friday..buried 3 days and 3 night s right?...tampered Masonic KING JAMES gospel says he came out of "TOMB"=masonic grave of hiram abiff..before sunrise on 1st DAY-SUN day..do your math...friday to sunday is a 1 day and a half..or precisely 36 hours..REV 13..it is the number of a man..666
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i don't think debating how many days Jesus was buried will bring sinners to Christ but rather the truth of resurrection.

there are A LOT of religions that have similar doctrines. Most believe in God or a god but not all believe in Christ. I don't understand in your earlier post what math have to do with anything? please enlighten me...
December 26, 2008 8:25 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

ClimbingHigher

I think you need to reread what I wrote or reread what you said.

There are different compartments and level's of hell.  Some people will be punished more than others, according to what they have done on earth.

What don't you understand?
December 26, 2008 8:30 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

JUDAH NAZURA said:
Yahweh said to study and learned to show thyself approved. He also said His servant Priest Messiah of Israel is dead and has died like all men...see you are under a spell..there is no heaven to get to..heaven is in thy mind and heart..or within..Yahweh will create a new earth where the righteous shall dwell..you are expecting to enter some far off distant place..therefore you have not understood the Gospel nor Torah or Quran..you must be born again in this life...Yashua came to teach Divine knowledge to Israel and he died like all men...you worship JEEZUES..no man is coming TO SAVE YOU..theres no GOD BUT ALLAH YAHWEH!..stop the tricknowledge!...Yahweh created all numbers for man to reflect on HIS creation..and HE ENCOMPASSES ALL THINGS..you are pagan minded beleiving in man saviour gods..learn the scripture and understand numbers..the bible teaches mathematics as well..but i see you prefer the spell...Wicked Israelites....and if 7 were the only perfect number..we wouldnt have 9..360..full circle..LEARN TO COUNT!
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Heaven = a holy place

Heaven described as being in the sky or beyond this universe is man's definition because the bible doesn't justify this.

Jesus = Savior. You're right, he's not coming to save me because He already came.

God = God

Bible = word of God (this I understand). Please give me an example of how the bible teaches mathematics.

I guess I can automatically rule out that you don't believe in the Trinity.


December 26, 2008 8:36 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

JUDAH NAZURA

I know that no man is coming to save me...what are you saying?

Jesus is God/Yahweh, and God will return to keep is people from the Great Tribulation that will soon come upon the earth.

The current earth is resevered for fire.  

And what does fire do?  it purifies.

Earth will be a small part of Heaven.  Heaven will extend into the trillions of planets God created.

By what you wrote above, its clear that you don't have he Holy Spirit and never felt the Spirit of God.  So now I understand where your coming from.

I don't come on here to bash and I respect you my brotha, i'm curious to know...where do you get your knowledge?
December 26, 2008 8:42 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

 
The Seventh Seal said:
ClimbingHigher

I think you need to reread what I wrote or reread what you said.

There are different compartments and level's of hell.  Some people will be punished more than others, according to what they have done on earth.

What don't you understand?
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Each person will be judged by their works (whether or not they accepted Christ).

What I don't understand is where the levels of hell come from...?

Are you getting your information form the bible or another source?
December 26, 2008 8:47 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

1..echad=Yahweh Allah..the ONE and ONLY 2.productive..His Creations..angels,heavens etc from HIM 3.Is YAHWEHs Nature and Creations perfected..heaven,earth,lower places..Creation,PERSERVATION,and destruction..all things follow this cycle..heart,mind,soul..4..Earth..and 4 corners..matter..and the square..animal man..5..reasoning spirit filled man..upright..head,arms,legs=the cross..or 4 box..unfolded..and mans senses..6.man with light(the sun)..spirit filled man..yet still incomplete..but with light..is raised higher than animal man and upright man...but able to choose right path or wrong..from his understanding..satan said"eat of this ,you shall not die,but shall be as gods"..7.earthly perfection..7 days of week..and 7 planets given for mans advancement and understanding of nature within him..8..being born again..a new creation..earthlyman4..times two..productive..9.encompasses all of Yahwehs creation..including and excluding Himself..and 10. is one..the goal of man to be in the Father..i am in the Father and He is in me as taught by Yashua..it is to be whole..and this all came full circle..began with one and returned to one....Yashuas disciples who he taught Divine math were not christians..but ISRAEL!...so if you do not enter the kingdom of God=divine wisdom while on earth..NOW!..how can you enter it into the next life?...leave the dead to bury the dead!..and this is the GOSPEL for those who have eyes that see and ears to hear!...THIS LIFE..and the crucifixion of the son of man is YOU and ME..kill the animal man and become divine man thru light!...the cross is the number 5..the sun on it is the resurrection thru heart,mind ,soul and strenghth..earthly man dies..and your goal is to reach 7..MATHEMATICS..you must be reborn
December 26, 2008 8:49 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@ClimbingHigher

There are books describing hell.

God used mankind to write his word on scrolls thousands of years ago.  And God has done the same in modern times.

He has spoken to the hearts of mankind to write books about heaven and hell.

check out this book:  "Devine Revelation of Hell" by Mary K. Baxter
December 26, 2008 8:55 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

Again Yashua calls GOD ALLAH...mark 15 vs 34...so if JEEZUES is ALLAH..than you need to read the Quran..i told you ..a spell..how can Yashua call upon Allah...and you say he is YAHWEH..are you emplying Yahweh is subservient to ALLAH?...and if Yashua is Yahweh calling upon ALLAH..then you d better call upon ALLAh like Yashua..if this doesnt make sense to you..its because you are under a spell..and serve another god besides ALLAH YAHWEH..and who is this god that seeks to get worship other than ALLAH YAHWEH?...get it together....if it dont add up..its not true..get out of babylon mindstate!...i get my info from the TORAH,the GOSPEL of YASHUA and the HOLY QURAN...now learn to count...1 does not equal 3
December 26, 2008 8:58 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

A man is reborn when he accept Jesus as his personal Lord and Savoir.  And i'm not trying to reach any #.
December 26, 2008 9:01 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

JUDAH NAZURA said:
i get my info from the TORAH,the GOSPEL of YASHUA and the HOLY QURAN.
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I would consider that a problem because you mixing religion.

God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are from the same spirit.

Those three are one.  The Holy Trinity.

Do you talk to God?

If you do...when you pray tonight ask God to reveal the truth to you and ask him to fill you with his Holy Spirit.

But God will not answer you prayer unless you pray in the name of Jesus.

Just try it.

If you choose not too...then you don't want Yahweh to reveal the truth to you.
December 26, 2008 9:07 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

JUDAH NAZURA said:
1..echad=Yahweh Allah..the ONE and ONLY 2.productive..His Creations..angels,heavens etc from HIM 3.Is YAHWEHs Nature and Creations perfected..heaven,earth,lower places..Creation,PERSERVATION,and destruction..all things follow this cycle..heart,mind,soul..4..Earth..and 4 corners..matter..and the square..animal man..5..reasoning spirit filled man..upright..head,arms,legs=the cross..or 4 box..unfolded..and mans senses..6.man with light(the sun)..spirit filled man..yet still incomplete..but with light..is raised higher than animal man and upright man...but able to choose right path or wrong..from his understanding..satan said"eat of this ,you shall not die,but shall be as gods"..7.earthly perfection..7 days of week..and 7 planets given for mans advancement and understanding of nature within him..8..being born again..a new creation..earthlyman4..times two..productive..9.encompasses all of Yahwehs creation..including and excluding Himself..and 10. is one..the goal of man to be in the Father..i am in the Father and He is in me as taught by Yashua..it is to be whole..and this all came full circle..began with one and returned to one....Yashuas disciples who he taught Divine math were not christians..but ISRAEL!...so if you do not enter the kingdom of God=divine wisdom while on earth..NOW!..how can you enter it into the next life?...leave the dead to bury the dead!..and this is the GOSPEL for those who have eyes that see and ears to hear!...THIS LIFE..and the crucifixion of the son of man is YOU and ME..kill the animal man and become divine man thru light!...the cross is the number 5..the sun on it is the resurrection thru heart,mind ,soul and strenghth..earthly man dies..and your goal is to reach 7..MATHEMATICS..you must be reborn
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the bible doesn't TEACH mathematics the bible uses numbers in repetition as you show.

what about the other numbers used often...
40? 12?

3 and 10 is divine perfection. 7 is spiritual perfection

8 is new beginnings

9 is judgement.

This is what the bible teaches - i can back it with scripture.  Is your source the bible? If not, then that will prove why we disagree.

December 26, 2008 9:17 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

                12 Tribes of Israel


1.  Judah............The Negroes/American Blacks (The real Jews)

2.  Benjamin........West Indians

3.  Levi..............Haitians

4.  Simeon..........Dominicans

5.  Zebulon.........Guatemala to Panama

6.  Ephraim.........Puerto Ricans

7.  Manasseh......Cubans

8.  Gad..............N. American Indians

9.  Reuben.........Seminole Indians

10.  Napthali......Argentina & Chile

11.  Asher.........Columbia to Uruguay

12.  Issachar.....Mexicans
December 8, 2008 4:42 PM
December 26, 2008 9:18 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

see,this is what happens when you are under a spell...the followers of john the baptiste were being baptised by him before his cousin Yashua s ministry began,and baptism is a renewal/being born again ritual...they did not follow Yashua but John...and it seems you still cant count..nor you do wish to..i have set forth examples that deal with fact and gave you scriptural reference...Yashua prayed to ALLAH..yet you ignore this and hang on tricknowledge.You dont have the spirit..because the spirit of Yahweh is WISDOM and REVELATION..it seems youve been denied both.And if you were really following Yashua, you wouldnt be getting outwitted and emabarrased by a so called person devoid of spirit..you havent read the QURAN..nor can you. It is not given to those with impure hearts and idolaters.And since you CANT read it..than nor do you understand the scriptures of the BIBLE..you are an idolater...Yashua wouldve called you a dog-a gentile or one of perverse teachings..because dogs always return to their vomit!..the bible was not given to be worshipped in the dead letter..if you do not know hebrew or arabic...and understanding of parable ..you will always return to your vomit..perverse teachings...the spirit on Yashua was spirit of Wisdom and REVELATION...you have not displayed either..rather regurgitated the doctrines and perverse beliefs of your father...SATAN!...and all numbers derive from 1 to 9...9 no matter how you add or multiply is always 9..LEARN TO COUNT..get out of BABYLON
December 26, 2008 9:32 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

The Seventh Seal said:
@ClimbingHigher

There are books describing hell.

God used mankind to write his word on scrolls thousands of years ago.  And God has done the same in modern times.

He has spoken to the hearts of mankind to write books about heaven and hell.

check out this book:  "Devine Revelation of Hell" by Mary K. Baxter
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I heard about this book but never read it.  I'm always skeptical about those who claim to have walked through heaven or hell.

I do believe God uses man but he doesn't give personal tours to come back to spread the word. the only person to have been to hell and back to speak about it is Christ himself.

read Luke 16:19-31 then help me understand why (and when) God changes him mind.
December 26, 2008 9:33 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

Jube said:

true Christians worship the God the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit.

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& the mother?

property done mortalized her.


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hmmmph. aint thatta bitch...

but, yeah, i guess being property for so long can take on the desired effect.


like when Mary said:

"...gave up my power, ceased being Queen..."





~BFG
December 26, 2008 9:38 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

ch 17 ..THE ISRAELITES...VS 45(9)..." And When YOU recite the QURAN,WE(YHWH) place between YOU and THOSE who believe NOT in the Hereafter a hidden BARRIER vs 46" AND WE put coverings on their HEARTS and a DEAFNESS in their EARS lest they should UNDERSTAND IT,and when YOU make mention of YOUR LORD ALONE in the Quran..they turn their BACKS in DENIAL".....and this is the Quran..chapter called the ISRAELITES..now if you deny, i am free from you..and you will answer to my GOD and your GOD who is ALONE and ONE..you will find the god you served is the DEVIL..white man JEEZUES!..away with you wicked ISRAELITE!..and your tricknowledgy religion
December 26, 2008 9:44 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@JUDAH NAZURA

You have been brainwashed by false religion.  And your soul is reserved for the lake of fire if you don't acknowledge Jesus as Lord.

One reason you so confused is because you mixing Quran with the Torah.  The Quran doesn't recognize Jesus as God.  The Bible does.  You can't mix them...either you believe one or the other.

And you say i'm getting outwitted & embarrased?  Man...we here to build and help each other... we NOT in competition.

You say my father is Satan?  huh, man you don't know me and my relationship with the Most High.  

You a mere mortal man with limited knowledge.

You speak as a foolish wiseman.




7th Seal
December 26, 2008 9:48 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:


JUDAH NAZURA said:
see,this is what happens when you are under a spell...the followers of john the baptiste were being baptised by him before his cousin Yashua s ministry began,and baptism is a renewal/being born again ritual...they did not follow Yashua but John...and it seems you still cant count..nor you do wish to..i have set forth examples that deal with fact and gave you scriptural reference...Yashua prayed to ALLAH..yet you ignore this and hang on tricknowledge.You dont have the spirit..because the spirit of Yahweh is WISDOM and REVELATION..it seems youve been denied both.And if you were really following Yashua, you wouldnt be getting outwitted and emabarrased by a so called person devoid of spirit..you havent read the QURAN..nor can you. It is not given to those with impure hearts and idolaters.And since you CANT read it..than nor do you understand the scriptures of the BIBLE..you are an idolater...Yashua wouldve called you a dog-a gentile or one of perverse teachings..because dogs always return to their vomit!..the bible was not given to be worshipped in the dead letter..if you do not know hebrew or arabic...and understanding of parable ..you will always return to your vomit..perverse teachings...the spirit on Yashua was spirit of Wisdom and REVELATION...you have not displayed either..rather regurgitated the doctrines and perverse beliefs of your father...SATAN!...and all nuhttp://allhiphop.com/stories/rumors/archive/2008/12/26/20766046.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessagembers derive from 1 to 9...9 no matter how you add or multiply is always 9..LEARN TO COUNT..get out of BABYLON
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I won't argue. I'll just say my peace and leave it as is.

1. THE NUMBER OF UNITY (Deuteronomy 6:4, Ephesians 4:5)
2. THE NUMBER OF DIVISION (Rom. 9, Mark 10:30)
3. THE NUMBER OF DIVINE PERFECTION (we kind of agree on this so i'll leave as is)
4. THE NUMBER OF CREATION (we kind of agree on this so i'll leave as is)
5. THE NUMBER OF GRACE (1 Sam. 17:40, Ex. 30:23-25)
6. THE NUMBER OF MAN (we kind of agree on this so i'll leave as is)
7. THE NUMBER OF SPIRITUAL PERFECTION (we kind of agree on this so i'll leave as is)
8. THE NUMBER OF NEW BEGINNINGS (2 Pet. 2:5, 8 covenants between God and Abraham)
9. THE NUMBER OF JUDGMENT (1 Cor. 12:8-10, 9 greek words from the root word meaning judgement)
10. THE NUMBER OF DIVINE PERFECTION (Ex. 20, Ex. 9:14, John 6:35)
12. THE NUMBER OF GOVERNMENTAL PERFECTION (12 tribes of Israel, 12 Apostles, Rev. 21:16-17)
40. THE NUMBER OF TRIAL (Deut. 8:2-5, Exodus 24:18, Matt. 4:2)

This is straight forward (don't have to multiply, add, etc) which is good for people like me who "can't count".
December 26, 2008 9:49 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

@seventh and ken masters


wanted to address the gods son/sun issue yall had.

wasnt sure if yall realized that in the bible, Jesus is actually referenced on occassion as the "Sun"

check it yourselves in Psalms:

84:8-12 In all our addresses to God, we must desire that he would look on Christ, his Anointed One, and accept us for his sake: we must look to Him with faith, and then God will with favour look upon the face of the Anointed: we, without him, dare not show our faces. The psalmist pleads love to God's ordinances. Let us account one day in God's courts better than a thousand spent elsewhere; and deem the meanest place in his service preferable to the highest earthly preferment. We are here in darkness, but if God be our God, he will be to us a Sun, to enlighten and enliven us, to guide and direct us. We are here in danger, but he will be to us a Shield, to secure us from the fiery darts that fly thick about us

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"he will be to us, as a Sun, to enlighten and enliven us"


king james version:

"For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly."



just wanted to make sure yall do know that Jesus has been symbolized as the light, and the Sun, in the book you reference.

peace
December 26, 2008 9:53 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

seventh seal must be a freemason ..chasing his tale and spreading false report...mixing of three religions huh?..so when Yashua prayed to ALLAH was he being a MUSLIM or a JEW?..or a CHRISTIAN?...when you understand that GOD is one and always has been called ALLAH..you see the straight path in all religions..and you see the crookedness,Christianity was pure until GOG and MAGOG got to it and it became Babylon..read it.....BAB-GATEWAY..DOOR.....ILIYON..OF THE SUN GOD..LUCIFER!...YOU ONLY FOOL THOSE WHO DONT KNOW!...I HAVE 3 LIGHTS..AND YOU DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE ONE YOUR SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWING..GET AWAY FROM THAT VOMIT!
December 26, 2008 9:53 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

Psalms 84:11   to be exact
December 26, 2008 9:54 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

The Seventh Seal said:
@JUDAH NAZURA

One reason you so confused is because you mixing Quran with the Torah.  The Quran doesn't recognize Jesus as God.  The Bible does.  You can't mix them...either you believe one or the other.
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so true
December 26, 2008 9:57 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

yall in here gettin it in I see.   aye, dont let me interrupt.  my bad


@butrflygrl

u get a chance to check them vids out?

Im bout to check some other joints out myself.
December 26, 2008 9:59 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@ ClimbingHigher said:

I do believe God uses man but he doesn't give personal tours to come back to spread the word. the only person to have been to hell and back to speak about it is Christ himself.

read Luke 16:19-31 then help me understand why (and when) God changes him mind.
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You should just read the Book.  

Have you ever heard of an outter body experience?  John the author of the book of Revelation, had an outter body experience when he wrote Revelation.

God never said he will be the only one to visit hell.

And how do you know what God does?  Are you in heaven with him to see how he uses mankind?

God has the power to do whatever he wants to do, whenever and however.

You CAN NOT put limitations on God.

Shalom by brotha
December 26, 2008 10:01 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

BLASPHEMY AGAINST YAHWEH IS NOT BUILDING..DO NOT CHRISTIANS IN ARABIA CALL GOD WHAT HE WAS ALWAYS CALLED BY THE NAME ALLAH?..DOES NOT THE TORAH STATE GODS NAME IS ALLAH?...DID NOT YASHUA SAY ALLAH ON THE CROSS IN GOSPEL OF MARK? DOES DAVID NOY CALL GOD ALLAH,BY CALLING HIM ELOAH?,DID NOT HAGAR CALL HIM ALLAH?..DID NOT ANCIENT JEWS AAND DISCIPLES CALL HIM ALLAH?..YOU ARE WICKED AND ARE TRYING TO SAY THERE IS ANOTHER GOD BESIDES ALLAH THEREBY BREAKING THE 1 ST COMMANDMENT!..WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOUR UNDERSTANDING..OR ARE YOU UNDER A SPELL?...WHAT WILL YOU SAY ON JUDGEMENT DAY WHEN YOU ARE ASKED WHY YOU GAVE THE LIE WHEN YOU HEARD IT?...DONT BLAME IT ON WHITE MAN JEEZUES ..BECAUSE EVEN SATAN KNOWS ALLAH IS GOD!WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?...ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FIRST....AND LET THE READERS SEE HOW IGNORANT AND ILLIMFORMED YOU ARE..YOU HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN..YOUR BEAT..I DO NOT ALLY MYSELF WITH ENEMIES OF GOD!..YOU ARE DESTROYING...NOT BUILDING ANYTHING BT DOUBT AND DISBELIEF!...MUSLIMS MAKE BETTER FOLLOWERS OF YASHUA THAN YOU..AND IM NOT A MUSLIM!...GET OUT OF BABYLON..LEARN 2 COUNT...1 PLUS ZERO DOES NOT EQUAL 3....WHATS WRONG WITH YOU?...YOU HAVE A SPIRIT ALRIGHT..BUT IT AINT HOLY..SHALOM!
December 26, 2008 10:05 PM
 

MelloB said:

Hip-Hop is Coming back to Glory in 2009!!!
December 26, 2008 10:09 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@JUDAH NAZURA

How can the God I serve be a white man's Jesus?

In the Bible it clearly states that Jesus has hair of wool and bronze skin.  Also it says he is from the Tribe of Judah.

The Bible also tells the story about how the white man was cursed with his pale skin...him and all his disendants.  At one time he had pigmentation, like you and me.

You are confused from the white man introduction of Christianity to to so called Black man.

The white man has misinterpreted the word of God and told us lies.

He paints a picture of a white Jesus while knowing he's a man of color.

Why don't you understand that white people lie?
December 26, 2008 10:11 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

I HAVE SINGLE HANDED TORE DOWN WITH KNOWLEDGE YOUR MASONIC INDUCED SPELL. ALL YOU CAN RESORT TO IS YOUR VOMIT...THE QURAN COMES FROM ALLAH YAHWEH..TO MOHAMMED, DESCENDENT OF ABRAHAM...GOD TOLD ABRAHAM ISHMAEL WOULD LIVE IN HIS SIGHT. NOW YOUR CHURCH............SO CALLED MT ZION BAPTISTE PORK CHOP CHURCH OF BEELZEBUB WAS NOT FORETOLD BY ANY PROPHETS TO SPREAD LIGHT..BUT ,OF CHEER..YOUR CHURCH IS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE....REVELATIONS 13 VS 11..THE FALSE PROPHET..OR THAT CHURCH THAT CAME FROM ROMAN CATHOLICISM WITH MAN WORSHIP AND SUN DAY SABBATH...WITH 2 HORNS..ROME AND ENGLAND(PROTESTANT/MASONIC CAPITAL)...THIS 2 ND BEAST AMERICA AND PROTESTANT FALSE PROPHET TEACHINGS EXTENDED ITS AUTHORITY EVERYWHERE..MAKING THE WORLD FOLLOW AFTER THE 1ST BEAST=ROME AND THE POPE..SUNDAY SABBATH..FALSE TRINITARIAN BELIEFS ETC...ALSO REV 17 VS11...IS AT ALSO THE SAME TIME THE 7 TH..PROTESTANT SUNDAY SABBATH CHURCHES ARE ALL UNDER THE POPE AND ROME......BABYLON!...GET REAL
December 26, 2008 10:17 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

continued...

Your guilty of blasphemy for not acknowleding Yahshua as Lord.

But you will one day in the near future.


Every knee shall bow, every tounge will confess that Jesus is Lord.

You've been decieved by Satan himself.  Your Lord is Satan, you have no knowledge of self or Yahweh.

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT THAT YOUR THE ONE WITH THE TRICK KNOWLEDGE?

Your from the seed of the serpent.

Take your religion of witchcraft to the lake of fire and brimestone.

Your soul is reserved for the lake of fire.

I WILL NOT ENTERTAIN FOOLISHNESS ANY LONGER
December 26, 2008 10:20 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

The Seventh Seal said:
@ ClimbingHigher said:

I do believe God uses man but he doesn't give personal tours to come back to spread the word. the only person to have been to hell and back to speak about it is Christ himself.

read Luke 16:19-31 then help me understand why (and when) God changes him mind.
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You should just read the Book.  

Have you ever heard of an outter body experience?  John the author of the book of Revelation, had an outter body experience when he wrote Revelation.

God never said he will be the only one to visit hell.

And how do you know what God does?  Are you in heaven with him to see how he uses mankind?

God has the power to do whatever he wants to do, whenever and however.

You CAN NOT put limitations on God.

Shalom by brotha
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Was what John experienced truly an outer body experience or a vision?  

I don't want you to misinterpret my words or what I'm trying to say - I am not trying to limit God (he couldn't be if I tried).  I know the bible says God is a God that changes not; so in that verse in Luke it says God sent the prophets not those who experienced it (I didn't say it, The bible ITSELF says it, I didn't write that verse).  

Revelation gets specific on a lot of the apocalypse. Why not that since it would be easier for Christians to accept since it's the Word of God.

But we can and will agree to disagree. I'm not trying to provoke an argument just share beliefs and understand the purpose behind everybody truth.  You're right that we are too feeble minded to understand God in all his greatness.  This is why he gives us the bible to get a better understanding; so this is why I was stating what I did.

December 26, 2008 10:26 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@JUDAH NAZURA

You should also change your name, because it's obvious that you don't know what the word Judah mean.

JESUS COMES FROM THE TRIBE OF JUDAH.

shaking my head at this coon serpent....you a joke

December 26, 2008 10:27 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

@ The Seventh Seal

I think the most important thing is that whether or not there are levels of hell, no one wants to be there.

I think we can agree on that and not worry about the small talk.
December 26, 2008 10:28 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

OH I DO UNDERSTAND THIS..BUT I GREW UP IN A CHRISTIAN HOME..I LOVED THE CHURCH..BUT YAHWEH WOKE ME OUT OF MY SLUMBER....AND GAVE ME KNOWLEDGE TO STUDY HEBREW AND THE TORAH AND PROPHETS..AND EVEN THAN ...THE OTHER BOOKS TAKEN OUT OF BIBLE...AND STUDY JUDAISM,ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY..AND THE BOOKS AND AUTHORS..TO STUDY HISTORY..THE PROBLEM IS..IF YOU CANT SEE LIFE IN THE METAPHYSICAL WAY AS MAN BEING OF TWO NATURES THAN YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND...HOW CAN YOU HAVE A BASE EARTH PERPSPECTIVE ONBOOKS THAT ARE CLEARLY SPIRITUAL AND METAPHYSICAL?..ITS IMPOSSIBLE!.....YOU MUST KNOW THYSELF..OR THE HIGHER SELF TO UNDERSTAND GOD...THIS IS NOT A MAGIC SPELL"  OH I BELEIVE IN JEEZUES..SO IM SAVED"...IF YOU WERE SAVED, LIGHT IN THE FORM OF WISDOM CALLED HOKMAH WOULD BE GIVEN TO YOU....AND YOU WOULD BE EXPLAINING THINGS IN DETAIL TO THOSE WHO BELEIVE NOT.  I TELL YOU AN ATHEIST ONLY CHASES HIS TAIL AND WILL NEVER RESORT TO HOLY BOOKS AND THE SPIRIT TO BACK HIS ARGUMENT...AND A FOLLOWER OF CHRIST WOULD NEVER BR UPSTAGED IN REASONING BY SOME ONE WHO DOESNT HAVE THE SPIRIT AS YOU SAY....FORGIVE ME IF IVE OFFENDED YOU..NOT MY INTENT....BUT I HOPE PPL WHO READ THIS AND NOT UNDER THE CURSE CALLED THE SPELL WILL LEARN FROM THIS..AND COME WITH KNOWLEDGE,WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING...SHALOM ACHI....YAHWEH Adonaihu ha ECHAD..SHEMA YISROEL!...shalom yehudah nazura
December 26, 2008 10:32 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:



ALLAH MEAN EVERYTHING!

Thus Spake Amiri Baraka


           Allah mean everything, before the word

           Before the slavemasters, before the kings

           Everything. So how can there be God, since

           Everything is the one, the whole, to understand this is what holiness

           means. It is the hoarders of the earth, who grasped the earth’s flowers

           like what we had been before climbing the mighty tree, and so could see

           the sky, could see the sea where we had been, could look down on the

           ground and declare ourselves, finally, more than it. But they who

           carried the earth with them, like the dead, were buried under it, took

           dirt with them, even as the women taught the rest of us, how to stand up

           straight, and dig the scattered eyes of stars of the other part of our

           wholeness, where surely we would go and be.

           But the soul was from the sun and who did not aspire to be again what it

           is and we are, unconscious and therefore, small, and without the power

           and burning and endless self of being and coming and becoming re-

           being re-seeing, all toward what we were when we knew we were.

           So those who worshipped what is beneath us, the lowness of this place,

           which is called terrible and terrifying, because humans have not yet

           come.

           So those who did not dig the above, did not dig the sun, those who

           created histories of words which dealt with nothing but the

           transportation of their appetites, who thought there was nothing after

           the tree, and didn’t understand the tree, those who made lies into laws,

           death into trick endings and mystery. Those who created God because

           they could not be what they wanted with Good.

           Because there is not God, there is Good. Between birth and dimension

           the wheels of infinity. Death is a choice of ignorance. The Z row the hole

           for whole, the nothing when there nothing is nothing and nothing

           cannot be . Because even in your mind nothing exists as something. A

           thought.

           So the place, the tree, the umbrella of our being, when we first rose,

           began to suppose we were no longer what we had been, the unknown

           feelings the biting the search for only food, and the instant death of

           what we could not change. They became slavemasters and kings and

           priests, and began to rule the world. Character assassinated women as

           they threw them from the high place of art, the birth place of what

           carries a visible soul, the womb. Where the crown of sound, what is

           And the motion into breasts under which we come, like the mountains

           and the sea rolling across the everything when we dig that that’s what

           going on. To be an animal, instead, these terrorists of the stomach, the

           bowels, the genitals, the delusion, the submission to themselves, these

           accumulators, hoarders, who created the whore of themselves and

           named it God, who died, which is a lie, each time they did……

           They built the world into a tower, not the destiny of endless rise, with

           the deep connection to where we been, so not to go there again.

           There is Good and there is Evil. No God and the backwardness of evil

           worships death, the earth, and calls the sky barren and empty, thinks

           space is a nothing filled with them and what they know.

           To be an animal and forbid humanity from appearing, this is what is

           going on. The masters of the earth are the creators of death and pain

           and loss and ignorance and poverty and disease.

           Who would want to live in a world full of ignorance violence and

           murder. The refusal to turn with On and see the sun, and make the soul

           rest upon this place with one leg, a one eyed jack, right handed, full of

           worms. Who wd lie about the world’s self. The only Royalty is Reality.

           The only divinity is the ability to understand the future. There is Good

           and There is Evil and there is no God and No Devil. But the rulers of

           the world make themselves rulers measures masters of the terror

           because they want to eat and have expensive doo doo. The most

           expensive doo doo is money. And now they are so sophisticated they

           have paper doo doo, which makes them think their hineys are clean.

           The paper is green, so it means to remind you of the flowers and the

           sun. They created religion to explain why they rule and you are a fool.

           They overthrew women, so they could be beasts again and eat and bust

           their nuts, who was their mother now an orgasm and their mother is a

           mystery they really killed so they could have sex with everything and

           anything because they were masters so they could do it cheap and not

           have to give so much money away. Yeh, they created money to fertilize

           the earth with feces, their symbol, which they tell us means create, if we

           dump upon the ground, which was the soul, upon with their one leg

           stood, why they removed one wheel from Good, creating God, and a will

           the inheritance, which turned their blood to liquid waste.

           There is Evil and There is Good. And you will be in pain, the french

           word for Bread, like their word for civilized is Cop. Which is why the

           rulers created the POLICE, like mercy is their world for thank you, dig

           that, and Please is what they make us do to live, cop a plea. So dig the

           German word for God is Gott, which is what they made of materialism

           a worship of the earth, of the disease of powerful ease, the word for

           Good is Gut, the stomach is filled with bodies,

               Don’t say these things a head is dropped through the curtain

           whispering. The spy of the un-is. The dead lie but a lie exists as such

           only because of ignorance. Without ignorance there could be no lies.

           Why do the Greeks and Roam mens say Lyre is for music. The strongest

           material we know is steel, so the grounding of the thieves who make art

           a thing not creation itself. The belief in electricity perhaps is the

           beginning of light? The city is democratic supposedly like the lie is ok if

           it exists as a flag a force a current . When they burned the prophets and

           changed the meaning to money to surplus, the greed of the owners.

           What is a slave, a dead life. To rise openly is alive. Why is heaven

           actually having? Not haven. Why is god a backward dog.Why is Ali

           Baba the Pope and the forty thieves his cardinals. What is the difference

           between sine and sign and sin and without and to connect yes to live El

           Camino Real. Why is Santa Claus the devil? Why is Halloween the

           worship of a tribe of killers. What is the skull and cross bones Why are

           privateers and privatization slave ship captains. Why is it called the

           white house? Why was the obelisk painted white? Why is the pyramid

           cut off near your mother and the eye disconnected and printed in green

           Why is the capital where the capitalists rule. Watt does measure mean?

           Why is Dub Chaint and Dub poetry English? What does it have to do

           with Dublin. Why are the moors and the moors and the moors the same.

           The Gypsies and Egyptians and Gyp the same meaning. The black

           Douglass was a ruler of Scotland. When the anglos killed him they

           wrote "think on this" under his severed head. Why are the "little

           people" the same as pygmies.  Lepracaun means leopard king.

           Stonehenge is the bridge to the south. Why do the masons say Allah U

           Akbar when they get their 33. 33 from 360 leaves what?

               Electrical talk is the same. Resistance, current, ground, watt?

           Why the Indians say OHMMMM. Krishna is Blue like Monk, and the

           same word as Christ. Cross .. to cross from where, to hang why? Why

           shd we believe Peter that Christ returned… Paul was not a disciple.

           They both went to Rome and got wasted hung up side down. Why do

           they have a candy named Peter Paul Mounds. Why is the rock group

           called Peter Paul and Mary. Why is the trinity about money. Why is

           God an adulterer. What is Judeo-Christian? Who invented money?

           Why is money and slaves called a buck? Is a wooden nickel 3/5th of a

           real one. Why is only a penny brown and got Lincoln on it? Is that why

           they leave it on the ground.

           Nero means black, was he like Stuff Smith You been to

           Cambodia, Satchmo whole family up on the side of the mountains.

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December 26, 2008 10:45 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

i hope yall brothers really doing the knowledge on the whitening process of jesus and all that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFIwFFLhZI&feature=related


and how the council of nicea was convened to decide if jesus would be considered God and all that.

just hope yall step outside of the bible just a tad, and research some outside info to make sure yall following the right track.

just passing the flashlight...
December 26, 2008 10:48 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@HP

Jesus was never white.

White people lie.

That faggot picture they put up of Ceaser Borgia is NOT Jesus.

"God is a spirit and those that worship me must worship in spirit and truth".
December 26, 2008 10:56 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

seventh seal..quit worshipping kreflo dollar..and t.d. jakes..and learn more about your self..and then learn the scriptures..and im about to expose you again ..you fraud!..stop snacking on the pork chop..and pay attention goof ball!....
MATT 1 VS 16..says Yashua descended from DAVID thru JOSEPH
LUKE 3 VS 23,24..says Yashua descended from David thru JOSEPH...now this is contradicting Babylon Churches doctrine that JEEZUES was born from God....oh and Mary?....LUKE 1 VS 6..ELISABETH FROM AARONS LINE OR PRIESTHOOD....VS 36..MARY HER KINSWOMAN IS TOLD BY THE SPIRIT-ANGEL GABRIEL THAT ELESABETH SHALL BEAR YASHUAS COUSIN JOHN THE BAPTISTE.......NOW BUFFOON,IF THE SPELL HASNT BLINDED YOU EVEN FURTHER FROM GODS GRACE..YOU WILL SEE.....THAT THE BIBLE SAYS THAT YASHUA IS JOSEPHS SON AND NOT ALLAH YAHWEHS IN TWO GENEALOGICAL LINES!...NOW IF YOU DENY THAT JOSEPH IS NOT THE BIOLOGICAL FATHER OF YASHUA ..YOUVE DENIED THE BIBLE..AND YOUVE PROVEN THAT YASHUA IS NOT THE LION OF JUDAH..KING OF KINGS...IF YOU MAINTAIN THAT SCRIPTURE IS LYING AND YASHUA WAS FROM A "VIRGIN" BIRTH...NOT ONLY HAVE YOU DENIED SCRIPTURE,BUT YOU ADMIT THAT YASHUA IS NOT THE LION OF JUDAH,KING OF KINGS ROOT AND OFFSPRING OF DAVID...BECAUSE SCRIPTURE SHOWS THAT MARY IS A LEVITE..AND LEVITES ARE PRIESTS AND CANNOT SIT ON THRONES OR RULE AS KING!..THERE IS NO LION OF JUDAH..IN THE TRIBE OF LEVI....HAILE SELASSIE I IS THE KING OF KINGS LORD OF LORDS..ROOTAND OFFSPRING OF DAVID...SHILOH AND EARTHLY KING OF ISRAEL.....AND IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO THAT IS..YOUR A PORK CHOP SLURPING,KREFLO DOLLAR HAMBONE COON NEGRO WHO CANT READ OR COUNT....NOW PICK ONE BUFFOON..WHICH IS IT?
December 26, 2008 10:58 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@ClimbingHigher

Hear is the introduction to the book.

I recognize that without the supernatural power of the Lord Jesus Christ, this book nor any other which proposes to deal with the afterlife could be written. Jesus alone holds the keys to hell and has paid the price for our entrance to heaven.

I found that writing this book was a long, lonely, demanding experience. In fact, the book has waited several years to be revealed. The revelations from the Lord came to me in 1976. It took eight months to put it on paper. The writing of the manuscript itself covered a period of several years and putting the Scripture references in step-by-step order took another year. Finalizing the book took the best part of the winter of 1982 and the year 1983. In addition, for a period of thirty nights, Jesus took me into hell, followed by ten nights of visits to heaven.

I see now that the Lord was preparing me to write this book when even as a child I had dream about God. After I was born again, I had a very strong love for the lost and wanted to see souls saved.

Later the Lord appeared to me in 1976 and told me that I was chosen for a special assignment, He said, "My child, I will manifest myself to you to bring people out of darkness into light. For the Lord God has chosen you for a purpose; to write and make a record of the things I will show and tell you.

"I am going to reveal unto you the reality of hell, that many may be saved, many will repent of their evil ways before it is too late.

"Your soul will be taken out of your body, by me, the Lord Jesus Christ, and transmitted into hell and other places that I want you to see. I will also show you visions of heaven and other places and give you many revelations."

December 26, 2008 11:00 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

The Genealogy of Jesus
1A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham:
   2Abraham was the father of Isaac,
        Isaac the father of Jacob,
        Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,
      3Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
        Perez the father of Hezron,
        Hezron the father of Ram,
      4Ram the father of Amminadab,
        Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
        Nahshon the father of Salmon,
      5Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
        Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
        Obed the father of Jesse,
      6and Jesse the father of King David.
     David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife,
   7Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
        Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
        Abijah the father of Asa,
      8Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
        Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
        Jehoram the father of Uzziah,
      9Uzziah the father of Jotham,
        Jotham the father of Ahaz,
        Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,
      10Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
        Manasseh the father of Amon,
        Amon the father of Josiah,
      11and Josiah the father of Jeconiah[a] and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.
   12After the exile to Babylon:
        Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
        Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
      13Zerubbabel the father of Abiud,
        Abiud the father of Eliakim,
        Eliakim the father of Azor,
      14Azor the father of Zadok,
        Zadok the father of Akim,
        Akim the father of Eliud,
      15Eliud the father of Eleazar,
        Eleazar the father of Matthan,
        Matthan the father of Jacob,
      16and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
17Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Christ.


Jesus is a Jew from the tribe of Judah.
December 26, 2008 11:06 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

i guess my comment aint go thru or else this gon be a double up.



ay, hella funny...

y when Jeopardy was just on, 1 answer was:

"God's name Yahweh was first spoken to this man."

"who is Moses?"

fa real, i swear.



and yall in here gettin a might bit serious tho. fa real, dang, yall. like that?

it actually makes me question just how strongly any of u really, really believe that ur way is the proper way.

cause if u believed as strongly as u portray, u wouldnt care about convincing/arguing w/ any1 else. least thats how i be feeling bout things of this nature.

and it reminds me of the extreme nature of ppl who oftentimes call themselves chosen or most righteous.

just dont add up to me.

how does love for your God correlate to the sense of entitlement displayed and anger/rage for others who dont see as u do?

God feelin that?

see thats where ya lost imo. just my view on it, no disrepect. proceed as yall will.




ay, good shit, HoodProphet, with the references.

perfect example of a point i love: u must thoroughly understand whatever u might oppose in order to argue against it most effectively.

yeah not yet. but ima watch the vids tho, i been havin a headache 2day. hopefully tomorrow i wake up feeling good as new.





~BFG
December 26, 2008 11:11 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

The Birth of Jesus Christ

18This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. 19Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man and did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.
20But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins."


Jesus was NOT contaminated with the sperm of man.  Jesus Father is the Holy Spirit.


Holy Spirit = God

Jesus = God

Yahweh = God

Yahshua = God

December 26, 2008 11:12 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

Mathew 2

1After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem 2and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews?


Jesus is a Jew from the tribe of Judah.
December 26, 2008 11:13 PM
 

DJ DI said:

What up Ahh fam!!!!!

First things first:

Takeover/the break's over nigga/God Mc/Me, jay- hova/ Hey little soldier's/ you ain't ready for war/ Roc's tooo strong for y'all.

If Jenny wants Big Homie to get loose, he just might want his career done.

Looks like C & R is getting comfortable. I'm no hater, but this shit is NOT gonna last long. It's the entertainment business and these catz is still sucking breast milk.

Damn, the Lakers beat on the Celtics, but LEBRON IS STILL THAT NIGGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as the discussion about Christmas, me being a Christian, i stand strong about my beliefs about Christanity, but I respect everyone. At the end of the day, we all are s'possed to show love to each other, no matter who you are. I have no ill will towards anyone. I'm all about peace.
December 26, 2008 11:14 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

LISTEN TO WHAT THIS BUFFOON HAS TO OFFER...SEE COCHROACH?..YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT 2 PRESENT A BOOK WRITTEN BY A NON PROPHET...FOR THE RECORD..THIS GUY SEEKS GUIDANCE FROM OTHER MEN AND NOT HIS CREATOR!...YEAH,THE TRICKNOWLEDGE SOUNDS NICE..IT ALWAYS DOES..OR HOW ELSE CAN IT ATTRACT THE DEVILS AND DECIEVED?...BUT ,WHEN IT COMES TO THAT TRUE SCRIPTURE AND SOME REASONING....PORKCHOP HAMBONE CHRISTIAN GETS TO STEPPING!..YOU WILL NOTICE LIL KREFLO DIDNT ANSWER NOT ONE QUESTION! JUST LIKE SATAN!...NO ANSWER....BUT HE GET HIS CARL LEWIS ON......DONT FOLLOW THE DEVIL PPL..IF HE WERE FROM GOD HE WOULD SPEAK GODLY WISDOM...HE HASNT SAID NOT 1 THING!..NOR HIS GIRLFRIEND "CLIMBHIGHER"..CUZ SEE...THEY OVER THERE RUBBING ON EACH OTHER NAKED EATING PORK CHOPS WITH CHURCH SOCKS AND WORK BOOTS LISTENING TO KREFLO TALK ABOUT  HIS BENTLEY...POOR DEVILS...YOU D BETTER CHANGE YOUR SCREEN NAME...YOUVE BEEN EXPOSED..NOW GET YOUR HANDS OUTTA HIS PANTS ..YOU LITTLE WEIRDOS!
December 26, 2008 11:16 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

 
HoodProphet said:
i hope yall brothers really doing the knowledge on the whitening process of jesus and all that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFIwFFLhZI&feature=related


and how the council of nicea was convened to decide if jesus would be considered God and all that.

just hope yall step outside of the bible just a tad, and research some outside info to make sure yall following the right track.

just passing the flashlight...
------------------------------------------------------------
Not to provoke an argument but...

the bible was written by prophets through divine inspiration from God. (that is if a person believes in the bible as being truth)

the council of nicea was man inspired to try to find common ground on biblical doctrine.  

if you believe the bible to be God inspired and not man inspired then it's impossible to find the "right track" outside of it when it says "the word is God"

but again this is if a person believes in the totality of the bible otherwise... it's up for grabs.
December 26, 2008 11:16 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@SERPENT NAZURA


Man your a fraud.

Stop speading your lies on here.  Some weak minded soul might believe you.
December 26, 2008 11:17 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

john coltrane = god




John Coltrane live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6WwuxqXPOg
December 26, 2008 11:17 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

that Serpent Nazura guy combines three religions and create his own.

what a lost soul.

December 26, 2008 11:23 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

SEE,IM TELLING YOU SEVENTH SEAL IS THE DEVIL..HE JUST REPRINTED THE SCRIPTURE OF YASHUA BEING JOSEPHS SON..AND THEN SAID YASHUA WASNT BORN FROM HUMAN SPERM...YOU ARE THE DEVIL WITH YOUR DOUBLE SPEAK..THAT IS MASONIC..ARE YOU SAYING THAT JOSEPH IS YAHWEH?...SEE...THIS NIGGA IS THE DEVIL!!!!!PICK ONE LUCIFER..IF JOSEPH IS NOT YASHUAS FATHER..HOW CAN HE BE DECENDANT OF DAVID?...MARY IS A LEVITE!...GET IT TOGETHER...I TOLD YOU ..CHRISTIANITY AND MASONRY ARE ONE AND THE SAME!.....ARE YOU CONFUSED OR UNDER THE SPELL OF LUCIFER?.......SON OF JOSEPH-TRIBE OF JUDAH.......NOT SON OF JOSEPH=NOT TRIBE OF JUDAH.....PICK ONE..AND SAY "SON OF GOD"=GENESIS 6 VS 2..SONS OF GODS..NEPHILIM..FALLEN ANGELZ..COULD IT BE SINCE YOU WORSHIP A SON OF GOD,THAT OBVIOUSLY ISNT SHOWN TO YOU IN THE BIBLE THAT YOU SERVE LUCIFER?....BECAUSE YOU  SEEM NOT TO ABLE COMPREHEND  SIMPLE PROBLEM SOLVING..OR MAYBE YOUR THE CAT ON THE SHORT BUS AND SPECIAL CLASS!....."jimmay"
December 26, 2008 11:29 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

Here is what will happen to the fals preachers.


We walked directly past some of the evil beings, which didn't seem to see us, and stopped at another pit of fire and brimstone. In this next pit was a large-framed man. I heard him preaching the gospel. I looked in amazement to Jesus for an answer, for He always knew my thoughts. He said, "While he was on earth, this man was a preacher of the gospel. At one time he spoke the truth and served me."

I wondered what this man was doing in hell. He was about six feet tall, and his skeleton was a dirty, grayish color, like a tombstone. Parts of his clothing still hung on him. I wondered why the flames had left these torn and tattered clothes and had not burned them up. Burning flesh was hanging from him, and his skull seemed to be in flames. A terrible odor came from him.

I watched the man spread his hands as if he were holding a book and begin to read Scriptures from the make-believe book. Again, I remembered what Jesus had said: "You have all your senses in hell, and they are a lot stronger here." The man read Scripture after Scripture, and I thought it was good. Jesus said to the man with great love in His voice, "Peace, be still." Immediately, the man stopped talking and turned slowly to look at Jesus.

I saw the man's soul inside this skeletal form. He said to the Lord, "Lord, now I will preach the truth to all the people. Now, Lord, I'm ready to go and tell others about this place. I know that while I was on earth, I didn't believe there was a hell, nor did I believe You were coming again. It was what people wanted to hear, and I compromised the truth to the people in my church. "I know I didn't like anyone who was different in race or color of skin, and I caused many to fall away from You. I made my own rules about heaven and right and wrong. I know that I led many astray, and I caused many to stumble over Your Holy Word, and I took money from the poor. But, Lord, let me out, and I will do right. I won't take money from the church anymore. I have repented already. I will love people of every race and color."

Jesus said, "You not only distorted and misrepresented the Holy Word of God, but you lied about your not knowing the truth. The pleasures of life were more important to you than truth. I visited you Myself and tried to turn you around, but you would not listen. You went on your own way, and evil was your lord. You knew the truth, but you would not repent or turn back to Me. I was there all the time. I waited for you. I wanted you to repent, but you did not. And now the judgment has been set."

Pity was on the face of Jesus. I knew that if the man had listened to the Savior's call, he would not be here now. O people, please listen.

Jesus spoke to the backslider again, "You should have told the truth, and you would have turned many to righteousness with God's Word, which says that all unbelievers will have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone.

"You knew the way of the cross. You knew the way of righteousness. You knew to speak the truth. But Satan filled your heart with lies, and you went into sin. You should have repented with sincerity, not halfway. My Word is true. It does not lie. And now it is too late, too late." At that, the man shook his fist at Jesus and cursed Him.

With sorrow, Jesus and I walked on to the next pit. The back slidden preacher was still cursing and angry at Jesus. As we walked past the pits of fire, the hands of the lost reached out to Jesus, and in pleading voices they called out to Him for mercy. Their bony hands and arms were gray-black from the burning-no live flesh or blood, no organs, only death and dying. Inside myself I was crying, O earth, repent. If you don't, you'll come here. Stop before it is too late.

December 26, 2008 11:31 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

lol I always thought Jesus was a middle eastern lookin mofo...

But I have a question...

Let's say there are two parallel worlds... In one I was born Muslim...

And in the other I was born Christan...

Christan me is believing the true religion... does that mean that the Muslim me is "going to hell" (as you say...) or vice versa?

What if I was born Buddhist or Atheist... then what? Is it all a matter of chance if I'm following the right thing or not??? Do you really think God (which ever you religious people may follow) would have allowed only a certain amount of people to know the truth? Does anybody have any creditable proof that any particular religion is true or do you just go by 'faith'? Did God (he/she/it or us) really leave a 'word' for us to follow or was that man made?
December 26, 2008 11:33 PM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

@ The Seventh Seal

The introduction of the book raises questions for me. It sounds like God is thinking/saying "many do not believe the truth from the prophets, Christ, etc. so let me try someone else".  

I completely respect your opinion on the subject, I just have mine; i'm not trying to belittle anybody's opinion.

1. using hell to win souls is kind of like a scare tactic. I believe God uses love instead

2. "My child, I will manifest myself to you to bring people out of darkness into light [...]

Wasn't this Jesus purpose to bring people out of darkness? (i.e. no comes to the Father but my me)

3. "I am going to reveal unto you the reality of hell, that many may be saved, many will repent of their evil ways before it is too late.

This sounds like a scare tactic. Hell is something to be feared obviously. Jesus stint on earth, he used the love of God to win souls.

4. "Your soul will be taken out of your body, by me, the Lord Jesus Christ, and transmitted into hell and other places that I want you to see. I will also show you visions of heaven and other places and give you many revelations."

Question: why out of body experience and visions? wouldn't the experience itself be everything?

These are the questions that come to mind when I read that. Again, just my opinion.

December 26, 2008 11:35 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

seventh devil..you can expect the bizness from me everytime now...thats what u get fraud!....comin around here messin with these ppl.....buffoon!...this guy acts like the God of adam wasnt the God of Moses,wasnt the God of Yashua,wasnt the God of Mohammed!...and im confused?....Lucifer,you better not come on this site anymore.......i dont support coon nee
groes.....and that book in your icon is upside down nigga!
December 26, 2008 11:35 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

JUDAH NAZURA

yes Joseph was Jesus earthly father.

But did you read the part where it stated "Mary was found to be with child through HOLY SPIRIT"

don't misintrerpet the word of God.  Just read it and let it sink in.


The child always take on the Tribe of the father.  Joseph was Jesus father.  But born of the holy spirit.

Even if you don't believe that...they BOTH (Mary & Joseph) were Israelites from the descendants of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.
December 26, 2008 11:42 PM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

tommy k...Yahweh said He gave a scripture and a prophet to all families and nations. He did not just choose Israel or Christiandumb or Islam...you can find the truth and straight path in all God revealed religions since he is the beginning and the end,Buddhism,Brahmaism,zoroasterism..etc.....avoid the tampered text..and seek the original source!....ABRAHAM WAS NOT A JEW...since the tribe and person of JUDAH 4TH SON OF JACOB WAS NOT BORN.....ADAM WAS NOT A JEW,NOR CHRISTIAN,NOR MUSLIM....IN THE PSALMS GOD CALLS CYRUS KING OF PERSIA HIS MESSIAH/CHRIST ANOINTED ONE...CYRUS WAS A ZOROASTRIAN..FROM PERSIAN PROPHET ZOROASTER....NOW WATCH THE HEATHEN DEVILS SAY..THAT ONLY CHRISTIANITY IS TRUE WHEN IT WAS CREATED BY THE WHITE MAN IN 330 AD IN ROME FROM MASON AND LUCIFER WORSHIPPER CONSTANTINE.......
December 26, 2008 11:43 PM
 

B*braze said:


i been enjoying this lil debate. good points on both sides. and im sorry to butt in... but



The Seventh Seal said:
The Genealogy of Jesus
1A record of the genealogy of Jesus Christ the son of David, the son of Abraham:
  2Abraham was the father of Isaac,
       Isaac the father of Jacob,
       Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,
     3Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
   

 ...

       Eleazar the father of Matthan,
       Matthan the father of Jacob,
     16and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
17Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Christ.




and then...


 The Seventh Seal said:
Jesus was NOT contaminated with the sperm of man.  Jesus Father is the Holy Spirit.
******************************************




explain. how is he geneologically descendant, without being 'contaminated' by sperm of man?

im not trynna play on words but, the keyword is 'geneology'.

genes...

genetic material that he obviously couldnt get from mary's side. so it would have to be from the father. passed on thru sperm.
December 26, 2008 11:47 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

@JUDAH NAZURA

It ain't no hard feelings with me.  It's no need to get on here and waste keystrokes with anger.

I hope the Most High God bless you and your whole family.

And I do apologize to you and the board for letting your words rattle me.

Shalom.

@BFG

I see you...How are you?



December 26, 2008 11:49 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

@ JUDAH NAZURA

Ehhh? So what if I was born into Atheism or some religion that worships a cow? Is that my fault that I wasn't included in the mix?
December 27, 2008 12:04 AM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

B*braze said:

explain. how is he geneologically descendant, without being 'contaminated' by sperm of man?
--------------------------------------------------------------
genealogy is "is the study of families and the tracing of their lineages and history. Genealogists use oral traditions, historical records, genetic analysis, and other records to obtain information about a family"

your refering to genetic geneaology which is sometimes used by DNA. the are many other ways to do this research
December 27, 2008 12:08 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@HP

Well I watched you assert that you were not religious. You also have a tendency to write against such doctrines. Then you stated that God=supreme consciousness, Infinity and things like that. What you are saying is only qualitatively different from the Bible pushers that believe Jesus turned walked on water.

I could tell you what "light" means to me from a mathematical point of view and prove it. Speaking symbolically about a concept that is beyond belief will result in clamoring. Mysticism is not empirical knowledge. Empirical knowledge has pushed humanity far beyond its limits, that is why we are communicating through an empirically factual use of "light", i.e., fiber optics, instead of merely wishing we had telekinesis.

In regards to the Universe and Space, I find physics to be the most rigid science of matter and energy that is always put forth as being definitive but really it's not. So for instance, Newtonian physics is useful up until the point where it breaks down. At the same time, you have to be aware of the different branches of physics and where the current state of knowledge is when you talk about the "expanding Universe".

Take the notion of dark matter for instance, dark matter does not interact with electromagnetic radiation so it can't be detected directly, but it can be detected by measuring gravitational effects. Dark matter is not a fact, it is a hypothesis of phenomena that is unseen to the naked eye, much like a concept of G-O-D. The gravitational effects of Dark Matter (not newtonian gravity) implies that the Universe or "Space" is contracting as well as expanding. We could be here forever, but I won't, that is why I said you are entitled to believe whatever you want to believe.
December 27, 2008 12:17 AM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

**genaology is somtimes researched by genetics (i.e. DNA). but there are other ways to conduct geneology research**
December 27, 2008 12:19 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@Killa2ThaB

I am sorry to hear that about your aunt, I accept your apology.

Now as far as me being condescending towards you, I wasn't being condescending. You claimed that my observation about the movie was wasting energy, and that I was getting down like the NAACP.

Now if you want to joke, be a man and take the jab I will send back to your grill, otherwise be serious and I will do the same. If you didn't recognize the stereotypes then you should have simply said that. If you didn't care about the stereotypes, then say that. Don't make a half-assed attempt to belittle my remarks and then get offended when I respond.
December 27, 2008 12:20 AM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

TOLD YOU B BRAZE...DOUBLE MASONIC TALK..BUT WE ALL ISRAEL AND ALL BROTHERS...I AINT GONNA MESS WITH HIM...HE STILL GODS CHILD JUST LIKE YOU AND ME..BUT I KNOW I
GOT THAT BROTHA THINKING THO..HAHAHA....ISRAEL BLESS.......HAVE SAFE NEW YEAR..AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS.....PEACE SEVENTH SEAL..SHALOM
December 27, 2008 12:30 AM
 

B*braze said:

ClimbingHigher said:
B*braze said:

explain. how is he geneologically descendant, without being 'contaminated' by sperm of man?
--------------------------------------------------------------
genealogy is "is the study of families and the tracing of their lineages and history. Genealogists use oral traditions, historical records, genetic analysis, and other records to obtain information about a family"

your refering to genetic geneaology which is sometimes used by DNA. the are many other ways to do this research
***************************************



lol since we usin wikipedia...

geneology and family history are two seperate things.


but anyway. i was using geneology in the context 7th was. that he was a direct descendant of these other people. and by that definition, the way he broke it down, he cant be.

abraham begat whoever begat that dude begat this nigga

hes definitely in the family tree as much as an adopted son would be. but not a descendant. they are his ancestors in a cultural sense, but not literally.

like i said... i wasnt trynna play on words. it is what it is unless it aint.
December 27, 2008 12:36 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

Hey there, I saw you. Hope all is well and the kids are enjoying their holiday. Nothing like the breaks from the task masters.
December 27, 2008 12:42 AM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

@B*braze

I love wiki

I reread his statement: "and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ."

that is contradictory. my bad.
December 27, 2008 12:51 AM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

Jesus was not created with man's sperm; Joseph is considered in our terms "step-father" not biological to Jesus.

Seveth statement is in the bible but it does sound contradictory
December 27, 2008 1:00 AM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

I would interpret that as Joseph being Jesus "legal" father therefore giving him right to David's throne.
December 27, 2008 1:02 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

b*braze sd: explain. how is he geneologically descendant, without being 'contaminated' by sperm of man?

im not trynna play on words but, the keyword is 'geneology'.

genes...

genetic material that he obviously couldnt get from mary's side. so it would have to be from the father. passed on thru sperm.
------------

you know what thats a really good pick.

& what trip me out on it is that a gentile

was someone who aint son of abraham

but who traced his lineage thru his mother

his gen

as we did before property became power

because that is who you KNEW made you

before inheritance flipped the scriptures

the entire judeo xtian myth is the celebration

of bondage

& prostitution
December 27, 2008 1:10 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

god is an adulterer
December 27, 2008 1:12 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

the mexicans call him sancho
December 27, 2008 1:20 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

when you sneeze thats how mexicans know sancho got yo lady
December 27, 2008 1:21 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

yall some jody worshippers
December 27, 2008 1:22 AM
 

aj22 said:

         ---------JS-----------------


LMAO LMAO LMAO ----------------- stop messing with folks--------
December 27, 2008 1:27 AM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

theyve just proved me,the Muslims and the Rastas RIGHT...you said your jeezus isnt born genetically from joseph and Mary was levite...an adopted son does not inherit the throne..especially one who is a Levite!...see a stumbling block!...then that means that Bob Marley,Rastas and others that know that Haile Selasie I Emperor Rastafari is the LION of JUDAH..and KING of KINGs..and ROOT and OFFSPRING of DAVID!...told you its one or the other..if Joseph is Yashuas Real father..than that destroys christianities claim that jeezus is god/Sun of god..and all other doctrines we know are catholic..but since you deny this...youve admitted that Haile Selassie I is the Messiah and KING of KINGs..since he is the last man to sit on DAVIDS throne!....SELASSIE I!!!!!!!
December 27, 2008 1:28 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

bfg holla @ yo boy


Mr. Sancho "Lil Secret"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BhW9IMkBJE
December 27, 2008 1:29 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

Johnnie Taylor - Jody's Got Your Girl And Gone (1970)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe9hg3riBfM

bow down mortals
December 27, 2008 1:35 AM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

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December 27, 2008 1:37 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

who the hell left the gate open?
December 27, 2008 1:41 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:


Fwd: Mumia faces US Supreme Court, as supporters mobilize globally‏
From: Michael Novick (antiracistaction_la@yahoo.com)
Sent: Fri 12/26/08 10:27 PM
To: jerichoamnestycoalitionla@yahoogroups.com
Cc: laamn@yahoogroups.com

From: SuzanneWRoss@aol.com
Sent: 12/22/2008 6:36:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: Fwd: Mumia updates

On Friday, December 19, 2008, Mumia filed his
appeal to the United States Supreme Court asking
it to consider his case for a new GUILT PHASE
trial.  That would mean a new trial that could
lead to Mumia's release, rather than simply a
SENTENCE trial that could only lead to life in prison or execution.

Last month, the Philadelphia District Attorney
filed its appeal to have Mumia executed without
even a new sentencing phase trial where he might
be sentenced to life in prison.

The Free Mumia Abu-Jamal Coalition


************************************************
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:54:25 -0500
From: "Hans Bennett" <hbjournalist1@gmail.com>
To: hbjournalist@gmail.com
Subject: My new, full report: Mumia Abu-Jamal
faces US Supreme Court, as supporters mobilize globally

Hi folks,
Well, after several weeks of work on this release
(featuring photos, videos, and this written
article), it is done, and I am excited to share
it, as I hope it can aid the movement's battle
against the corporate media blackout. Sadly,
after moving out here 7 years ago to document and
use indy-journalism to help the movement to free
Mumia, the MOVE 9, and all political prisoners, I
am moving home to California. So, while this will
not be my last article about Mumia, this is
probably my very last "report from the frontlines in Philadelphia".
Because of this, I worked hard to make this
count, and I appreciate everyone's help in
spreading the word about this compilation, as
well as all the other work I have been sending
you these past few years. I am still working on
uploading the photos, so if you don't see them,
be sure and check back at the link below, which
also features two new videos, my compilation
report, and an 11 minute video of my presentation
at the 13th and Locust crime scene (you can
download the flyer I made to assist the presentation).
All Best,
Hans
Abu-Jamal-News.com
*************************************

<http://phillyimc.org/en/mumia-abu-jamal-faces-us-supreme-court-supporters-mobilize-globally>http://phillyimc.org/en/mumia-abu-jamal-faces-us-supreme-court-supporters-mobilize-globally">http://phillyimc.org/en/mumia-abu-jamal-faces-us-supreme-court-supporters-mobilize-globally>http://phillyimc.org/en/mumia-abu-jamal-faces-us-supreme-court-supporters-mobilize-globally
Mumia Abu-Jamal faces US Supreme Court, as supporters mobilize globally
By Hans Bennett

On Friday, December 19, 2008, death-row
journalist Mumia Abu-Jamal filed his appeal to
the US Supreme Court, asking it to consider his
case for a new guilt-phase trial. One month
before, the Philadelphia District Attorney filed
its separate appeal to the US Supreme Court
asking to have Abu-Jamal executed without a new sentencing-phase trial.
At this critical stage in Abu-Jamal's case,
supporters organized a week of global solidarity
actions that began on December 6, the day of the
large protest in Philadelphia, almost 27 years
after Abu-Jamal was arrested for the December 9,
1981 shooting death of white police officer
Daniel Faulkner, and later convicted in a 1982
trial that
<http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/info/AMR51/001/2000>Amnesty
International has declared a "violation of
minimum international standards that govern fair
trial procedures and the use of the death penalty".
There were
<http://phillyimc.org/en/us-activists-solidarity-political-prisoner-mumia-abu-jamal>solidarity
actions inside the US and around the world,
including Mexico, Venezuela, Germany, France,
England, Switzerland. Several US events screened
the new DVD video titled
<http://insubordination.blogspot.com/2008/12/video-fighting-for-mumias-freedom.html>Fighting
for Mumia's Freedom: a report from Philadelphia.
In Philadelphia, over 200 protesters gathered
outside the District Attorney's office across the
street from City Hall. Journalists for Mumia's
new
<http://abu-jamal-news.com/article?name=d6r>video
report from the demonstration features an
interview with persecuted Civil Rights Lawyer
Lynne Stewart, and footage of Pam Africa speaking
outside the DA's office about the
<http://www.abu-jamal-news.com/article.php?name=mbmvids>newly
discovered crime scene photos taken by press
photographer Pedro Polakoff, and the DA's role in
hiding them from the defense. The coordinator of
the International Concerned Family and Friends of
Mumia Abu-Jamal, Pam Africa cited Polakoff's
statements today that he approached the DA's
office with the photos in 1981/82 and 1995, but
was completely ignored by them. Subsequently,
Polakoff's photos were never seen by the 1982
jury, or by the defense. Africa presented the
evidence to Philadelphia PD Civil Affairs Captain
William Fisher to deliver to DA Lynne Abraham.

Protesters marched from the DA's office to the
Federal Court Building where Abu-Jamal had
<http://www.abu-jamal-news.com/temp/May17Audio.html>oral
arguments on May 17, 2007. The march stopped at
the 13th and Locust crime scene where Journalists
for Mumia gave a presentation focusing on the
photo by Polakoff that shows a blank space where
key prosecution witness Robert Chobert testified
to being parked in his taxi as he allegedly
observed Abu-Jamal shoot Faulkner.  An
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G540pfYinAY>online">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G540pfYinAY>online
video of the presentation is available alongside
the <http://abu-jamal-news.com/docs/d6csi.pdf>special">http://abu-jamal-news.com/docs/d6csi.pdf>special presentation flyer.
That week, Journalists for Mumia was featured by
Philadelphia's independent news website
GeoClan.com. I argued in
<http://phillyimc.org/en/geoclancom-interview-about-journalists-mumia-abu-jamal>the
interview that "those advocating Mumia's
execution show a disturbing lack of concern about
the undeniable problems of racism (and all
documented police / DA / judicial misconduct)
throughout. At the most fundamental level, the
'Fry Mumia' campaign's lack of concern is
racistŠ.The FOP is appealing to a racist lynch
mob mentality that has long infected the US, so
calling this a 'legal lynching' is no exaggeration."
In
<http://phillyimc.org/en/mexico-citys-week-solidarity-mumia-abu-jamal>Mexico
City, Mexico, supporters organized a week of
actions, including a protest rally outside the US
Embassy. Linking Mumia's case to repression and
political prisoners in Mexico, speakers at the US
Embassy included ex-Atenco prisoners Edith
Rosales and César del Valle, as well as a guitar
performance by Atenco survivor Jorge Salinas,
whose arms were temporarily paralyzed and hands
fractured when he was almost killed by police at
Atenco. Survivors Mariana, Edith y Norma who
courageously told their story of being raped at
Atenco. Solidarity statements were read from
Mexican political prisoners Gloria Arenas Agis
and her husband Jacobo Silva Nogales, and from
the
<http://www.indymedia.org/en/2008/11/916170.shtml>Atenco
political prisoners in the Molino de Flores prison at Texcoco, México.
<http://phillyimc.org/en/braulio-alvarez-statement-mumia-member-venezuelan-assembly>Braulio">http://phillyimc.org/en/braulio-alvarez-statement-mumia-member-venezuelan-assembly>Braulio
Alvarez, a member of the Venezuelan parliament
and leader of the farmers struggle in Venezuela
said in his
<http://phillyimc.org/en/braulio-alvarez-statement-mumia-member-venezuelan-assembly>message">http://phillyimc.org/en/braulio-alvarez-statement-mumia-member-venezuelan-assembly>message
written for the week, that Venezuelan supporters
had decided "to go the American embassy in
Caracas to hand to the ambassador a letter to the
governor of Pennsylvania, demanding that he
immediately liberate Mumia Abu-Jamal."
<http://phillyimc.org/en/video-and-photos-mumia-solidarity-demo-berlin>Berlin,
Germany's, week of solidarity culminated in a
demonstration where hundreds  marched to the US
Embassy with slogans like "Freiheit für Mumia
Abu-Jamal - Weg mit der Todesstrafe überall"
("Freedom for Mumia Abu-Jamal - Abolish the death penalty everywhere").
Also demonstrating the international interest in
this case, the new British documentary film about
Abu-Jamal, titled In Prison My Whole Life,
premiered December 8 on the Sundance Channel.
Previous interviews with
<http://insubordination.blogspot.com/2007/10/in-prison-my-whole-life-interview-with.html>William
Francome, and
<http://insubordination.blogspot.com/2008/09/interview-new-british-film-about-mumia.html>Livia
Giuggioli Firth, revealed that In Prison features
an interview with Abu-Jamal's brother Billy Cook,
and
<http://abu-jamal-news.com/article?name=mbmvids>the
newly discovered crime scene photos. Officially
endorsed by Amnesty International,
<http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=17442>Amnesty
UK Director Kate Allen said: "We hope that the
film's viewers will back our call for a fair
retrial for Mumia Abu-Jamal--and also support our
work opposing the death penalty in the US and around the world."
Appealing to the US Supreme Court
Both the DA and Abu-Jamal are asking the US
Supreme Court to consider their appeals of the
<http://abu-jamal-news.com/article?name=tct>March
27, 2008 rulings by the US Third Circuit Court,
when the court denied Abu-Jamal a new guilt-phase
trial but ruled that there must be a new
sentencing- phase trial if the DA still wants the
death penalty. Therefore, Abu-Jamal is appealing
for a new guilt-phase trial, while the DA is
appealing to execute him without a new
sentencing-phase trial. On October 6, 2008, the
US Supreme Court
<http://abu-jamal-news.com/article?name=hbpcra>rejected
an unrelated appeal from Abu-Jamal.

On March 27, 2008 the US Third Circuit Court's
three-judge panel of Thomas Ambro, Anthony
Scirica, and Robert Cowen
<http://www.abu-jamal-news.com/article.php?name=tct>ruled
against three different appeal issues, refusing
to grant either a new guilt-phase trial or a
preliminary hearing that could have led to a new
guilt-phase trial for Abu-Jamal. However, on the
issue of racist jury selection, also known as the
Batson claim, the three judge panel of split 2-1, with Ambro dissenting.
Abu-Jamal
<http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/12/16/18555096.php>filed
his appeal of this ruling with the US Supreme
Court today, Dec. 19. Arguably the key issue will
be the 1986 Batson v. Kentucky ruling established
the right to a new trial if jurors were excluded
on the basis of race. At the 1982 trial
Prosecutor McGill used 10-11 of his 15 peremptory
strikes to remove otherwise acceptable black
jurors, yet the court ruled that there was not
even the appearance of discrimination. In
<http://www.emajonline.com/files/AMBROS_DISSENT.pdf>his
dissenting opinion, Judge Ambro wrote that the
denial of a preliminary Batson hearing "goes
against the grain of our prior actionsŠI see no
reason why we should not afford Abu-Jamal the courtesy of our precedents."
Separately, the DA is appealing to execute
without a new sentencing-phase trial, having
filed their brief on November 14,
2008.  Abu-Jamal's deadline to respond to this is January 21, 2009.
On March 27, the three-judge panel unanimously
affirmed Federal District Court Judge William
Yohn's 2001 decision "overturning" the death
sentence. Citing the 1988 Mills v. Maryland
precedent, Yohn had ruled that sentencing forms
used by jurors and Judge Sabo's instructions to
the jury were potentially confusing, and jurors
could have mistakenly believed that they had to
unanimously agree on any mitigating circumstances
in order to consider them as weighing against a death sentence.
According to this ruling, if the DA wants to
re-instate the death sentence, the DA must call
for a new penalty-phase jury trial where new
evidence of Mumia's innocence can be presented.
However, the jury can only choose between a
sentence of life in prison without parole or a death sentence.
The DA is appealing this 2001/2008 ruling to the
US Supreme Court, so if the court agrees to
consider the DA's appeal and rules in their
favor, Mumia can then be executed without benefit
of the new sentencing trial. However, if the
court upholds the 2001 and 2008 rulings, then the
DA will either request a new sentencing trial or
accept life in prison without the chance of parole.
Notably, at the DA's request, during the
post-2001 appeals, Mumia has never left his death
row cell or been given general population
"privileges" such as contact visits with family.
Reacting to the DA's Appeal
Following news that the DA was appealing to
execute without a new sentencing trial, I spoke
with
<http://abu-jamal-news.com/authors.php#dave>Dave
Lindorff,
<http://abu-jamal-news.com/article?name=vidframe>J.
Patrick O'Connor,  and
<http://insubordination.blogspot.com/2007/10/in-prison-my-whole-life-interview-with.html>William
Francome.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWsmTF4-KzA>Dave
Lindorff is the author of
<http://www.commoncouragepress.com/index.cfm?action=book&bookid=228>Killing
Time: An investigation into the death row case of
Mumia Abu-Jamal. He says that "the obsession of a
string of Philadelphia district attorneys,
beginning with current Governor Ed Rendell and
ending with current DA Lynn Abraham with killing
Mumia Abu-Jamal, despite his now having spent 26
years in the living hell of Pennsylvania's death
row, is truly repulsive and inhuman. It has
ruined the live of Daniel Faulkner's widow whose
life has become a pathetic campaign of vengeance.
It has cost the taxpayers of Philadelphia and of
the state of Pennsylvania untold millions of
dollars. And meanwhile, there is every reason to
believe that Abu-Jamal was wrongly convicted of
first degree murder and should never have been
sentenced to death in the first place. The
obsession to kill him, which began from the
moment police first arrived on the scene in
December, 1981, has led to a decades long
travesty of and insult to the principles of
justice, which is continuing to this day."

William Francome, from the British film
<http://insubordination.blogspot.com/2008/09/interview-new-british-film-about-mumia.html>In
Prison My Whole Life says that this "shows again
the political nature of this case. It is my
opinion that their office would not like to have
to go through with another sentencing phase of
the trial, with the attention that it would
receive. They wish that this case would just
disappear and that Mumia would be quiet, yet they
do not want to face the Fraternal Order of Police
who would be outraged if the DA wasn't pushing
for a death sentenceŠThe sad thing is that
amongst the political battles, a man's life is at
stake and I find the attempt at reinstating the
death sentence (which is a completely
irreversible and inhumane practice), to be abhorrent."
J. Patrick O'Connor is the author of
<http://www.ipgbook.com/showbook.cfm?bookid=1556527446&userid=3F711707-803F-2B7A-708FD8627CED70E2>"The
Framing of Mumia Abu-Jamal."  Despite several
book tours and an important NY Times article when
Framing was released in May 2008, it has been
virtually
<http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/can-the-media-continue-to-ignore-the-framing-of-mumia-abu-jamal>ignored
by the mainstream media. O'Connor argues that the
DA's appeal is "without merit and represents pure
gamesmanship by outgoing D.A. Lynne AbrahamŠThe
last thing the Philadelphia DA's Office wants to
conduct is a new sentencing hearing, an event it
continues to put off by filing this latest
appeal. That's really what this latest appeal is all about."
The Power of the People
At the December 6 protest, Pam Africa stressed
that the DA is trying to execute Abu-Jamal
despite the strong evidence of both an unfair
trial and innocence. Not having any faith in the
court system, she argued that justice will only
come from popular pressure, and made an urgent
plea for supporters to do all they can at this
critical hour. In his
<http://prisonradio.org/philli_rally_12_6_08.htm>message
recorded for the international week of
solidarity, Abu-Jamal thanked his supporters and
decried the recent denial of a new guilt-phase
trial: "As you've seen, the law is but politics
by other means, and the judges but politicians in
judges' robes. It doesn't matter what the cases
say. It doesn't matter what the so-called rules
say. They've never followed them from day one.
What matters is what you say. What matters is
what you do. So I thank you all for being there,
for fighting for what's right, for fighting for
life, for fighting for liberty. I thank you all and I love you all."

**************************************

From: destroycapitalism@hotmail.com
To: awolmagazine@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 12/22/2008 12:35:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: Mumia updates


Hi folks, the reports keep coming in from abroad
about Mumia solidarity actions, and they are all compiled here:

http://phillyimc.org/en/mumia-abu-jamal-faces-us-supreme-court-supporters-mobilize-globally

But itemizing the new stuff:

Venezuela:
http://phillyimc.org/en/braulio-alvarez-statement-mumia-member-venezuelan-assembly

Austria:
http://phillyimc.org/en/report-viennese-events-solidarity-mumia-abu-jamal

Hamburg,
Germany:
http://phillyimc.org/en/over-500-march-hamburg-germany-mumia-and-everyones-human-rights

England:
http://phillyimc.org/en/british-parliamentary-showing-prison-my-whole-life

A new review of "The Framing of
Mumia":   http://www.mediamouse.org/reviews/122008the_f.php

Lastly, I put this page together to accompany the
crime scene presentation I gave on Dec. 6, which is also a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G540pfYinAY

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/12/20/18555838.php

This is the flyer made:  http://abu-jamal-news.com/docs/d6csi.pdf
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December 27, 2008 1:46 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

don't you just love that feeling when you have one of them shits on the toilet, that it feels like your whole insides were just cleaned out?


must have been all them greens i ate on Christmas. damn i feel good though lol
December 27, 2008 1:54 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

my name ain't V-A no mo.

call me Ron Mexcio

LMAO!!!
December 27, 2008 2:00 AM
 

aj22 said:

come on----------- we dont wanna know about you being on the toilet man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





did you wash yo hands???? dont lie
December 27, 2008 2:02 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

OH YEAH

hp, jube, seventh, street, ken masters, bfg, judah nazura, climbing higher, tommy k.:

all yall wrong

cause none of yall are GOD

you'll never figure it out b/c you're human

you're gonna think what you want regardless

bye
December 27, 2008 2:07 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

ey aj,

nope. got doo-doo residue all over the keyboard
December 27, 2008 2:10 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

i was waiting 4 u 2 slide through with the hand sanitizer.

so what it do boo, aj"is no longer"22?
December 27, 2008 2:14 AM
 

aj22 said:

nothing, cold chilling----------------------

you stuck @ work?-------------------
December 27, 2008 2:28 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

yup. got duty today.

go steelers. couldn't beat the eagles though. HA!!!

V-A ALLDAY aka Ron Mexico
December 27, 2008 2:34 AM
 

ClimbingHigher said:

JUDAH NAZURA said:
theyve just proved me,the Muslims and the Rastas RIGHT...you said your jeezus isnt born genetically from joseph and Mary was levite...an adopted son does not inherit the throne..especially one who is a Levite!...see a stumbling block!...then that means that Bob Marley,Rastas and others that know that Haile Selasie I Emperor Rastafari is the LION of JUDAH..and KING of KINGs..and ROOT and OFFSPRING of DAVID!...told you its one or the other..if Joseph is Yashuas Real father..than that destroys christianities claim that jeezus is god/Sun of god..and all other doctrines we know are catholic..but since you deny this...youve admitted that Haile Selassie I is the Messiah and KING of KINGs..since he is the last man to sit on DAVIDS throne!....SELASSIE I!!!!!!!
------------------------------------------------------------
inheritance of the throne of David (earthly possession that will pass away) or the throne of God (divine, eternal possession). which one matter more? and what's the stumbling block?

if you base your theory/logic on worldly possesions then...

and yes Jesus is born of God not Joseph.
December 27, 2008 2:35 AM
 

Knowl said:

aj22 said:
        ---------JS-----------------
What up hon. Holding down the Bronx as usual..... What's good on your side of the Block?
December 27, 2008 2:36 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

ey i know Bhudda Flii around the corner somewhere with her NWO ish or doggin' Obama after she voted for him.


oh that's right. she said she was hibernating for the rest of the year.

well make sure you store up whatever you storing in ya ass and not ya gut. don't wanna come down with a bad case of the booty-doo (stomach sticks out more than ya booty do) lol

V-A ALL DAY aka Ron Mexico
December 27, 2008 2:37 AM
 

Knowl said:

Damn, it's been 12 years since I first battled the Israelites, and I still laugh at their ass
December 27, 2008 2:37 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

ey yo kap and salute FUCK DEM LAKERS!!!!


ey yo lionesse how you gonna talk all that talk and then hide?

at least rondo had the fly nikes on though huh? lol
December 27, 2008 2:39 AM
 

aj22 said:

vagogetta---------------- fuck eagles , fuck giants, fuck knicks, ummmmmm hmmmmm who else oh oh oh--------mets, yea fuck them 2 LOL
December 27, 2008 2:48 AM
 

aj22 said:

ron mexico isnt that wait va u a freak----------------------
December 27, 2008 2:49 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

RNC chairman candidate defends 'Barack the Magic Negro' song
 

(CNN) -- A candidate for the Republican National Committee chairmanship said Friday the CD he sent committee members for Christmas -- which included a song titled "Barack the Magic Negro" -- was clearly intended as a joke.

"I think most people recognize political satire when they see it," Tennessee Republican Chip Saltsman told CNN. "I think RNC members understand that."

The song, set to the tune of "Puff the Magic Dragon," was first played on conservative political commentator Rush Limbaugh's radio show in 2007.

Its title was drawn from a Los Angeles Times column that suggested President-elect Barack Obama appealed to those who feel guilty about the nation's history of mistreatment of African-Americans. Saltsman said the song, penned by his longtime friend Paul Shanklin, should be easily recognized as satire directed at the Times.

The CD sent to RNC members, first reported by The Hill on Friday, is titled "We Hate the USA" and also includes songs referencing former presidential candidate John Edwards and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, among other targets.

According to The Hill, other song titles, some of which were in bold font, were: "John Edwards' Poverty Tour," "Wright place, wrong pastor," "Love Client #9," "Ivory and Ebony" and "The Star Spanglish Banner."

Saltsman was national campaign manager for former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's presidential bid in 2007 and 2008. Before that, he held a variety of posts, including a number of positions under former Sen. Bill Frist of Tennessee.
December 27, 2008 2:49 AM
 

Just_Rude said:


aj22 said:
vagogetta---------------- fuck giants, fuck knicks, ummmmmm hmmmmm who else oh oh oh--------mets, yea fuck them 2 LOL
------------------------------------------------------------------------
and that's why your favorite hue is NEW YORK BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 27, 2008 2:54 AM
 

aj22 said:


Knowl said:
aj22 said:
       ---------JS-----------------
What up hon. Holding down the Bronx as usual..... What's good on your side of the Block?



chilling watching die hard 2 , what u up to????? Where me me at?????
December 27, 2008 2:54 AM
 

aj22 said:

Js----------------- nothing has changed things are just hidden sometimes----------- smh. ppl deserve to be slapped for just being silly, yea very funny joke---------------
December 27, 2008 3:01 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

  aj22 said:
ron mexico isnt that wait va u a freak----------------------  


LMAO!!!!

too funny

shout out to Mike Vick
December 27, 2008 3:04 AM
 

aj22 said:

ust_Rude said:

aj22 said:
vagogetta---------------- fuck giants, fuck knicks, ummmmmm hmmmmm who else oh oh oh--------mets, yea fuck them 2 LOL
------------------------------------------------------------------------
and that's why your favorite hue is NEW YORK BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



this guy, okay MR. Rude ------------------------- u know u a steeler fan, deep down inside arent you?-------- u aint getting me in no Giants blue
December 27, 2008 3:13 AM
 

Just_Rude said:

aj22 said:
Just_Rude said:

aj22 said:
vagogetta---------------- fuck giants, fuck knicks, ummmmmm hmmmmm who else oh oh oh--------mets, yea fuck them 2 LOL
------------------------------------------------------------------------
and that's why your favorite hue is NEW YORK BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



this guy, okay MR. Rude ------------------------- u know u a steeler fan, deep down inside arent you?-------- u aint getting me in no Giants blue
--------------------------------------------------------------------

ok lady .... MS 22............. me and steelers mix about as much as me and the eagles mix .. which is not at all.... your team lost ... so i guess i need to get back on my bull shit ...... meaning .....

AJ22.... I NEED TO SEE YOU IN THAT GIANTS JERSEY ASAP
December 27, 2008 3:20 AM
 

aj22 said:

is dat right? whatever, rude  :o)-------------------
December 27, 2008 3:28 AM
 

Just_Rude said:


aj22 said:
is dat right? whatever, rude  :o)-------------------

-------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah that's right ....22... in fact i think you need to find a tiki barber jersey....just because your team took that L.....

December 27, 2008 3:35 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

RON MEXICO'S TOP 5 HIP-HOP ALBUMS OF 2008:
(in no particular order)


1 T.I.

2 Jeezy

3 Scarface

4 Bun B

5 Lil Wayne
December 27, 2008 3:38 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

na AJ, i need 2 c u in that Ansanti Samuel jersey (his number is 22) on with nothing underneath as you open the door after i ring the bell for me to come in to your domicle HA!

can't a brother fantasize for a minute?!?! I'm Ron Mexico damn it!

well...unless u gonna do it
December 27, 2008 3:44 AM
 

aj22 said:

FUCK tiki ------------ out all the players u have to pick that mo fo---------------------


what about a Plaxico jersey? a sista can't get that jersey , how he doing anyway, hows the leg??? LMAO----------


now let me take my tail to bed --------------- til next mess talk time ----------------------
December 27, 2008 3:52 AM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

I can't wait till Yahshua returns and prove these non-believers wrong.

Jesus is Lord.

The End.
December 27, 2008 3:57 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@VA

I never proclaimed to be God, or a God. In fact, I am waiting for the people saying that they know what a God is to actually come with something more concrete than symbolism, something that goes beyond their beliefs. That goes for believers, non-believers, atheists, and whoever else running around like they know what they cannot possibly know.

There is a lot of confusion surrounding these concepts. Now I don't know what you think you know, you take shits and don't wash your hands so you should probably stay out of this conversation. Just work at being human bruh, just work at being human. lmao
December 27, 2008 4:29 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

aye, like always.  all yall brothers (and sisters) are entitled to yall own opinions.


the info I disclosed on these boards cant really be taught.  only learned.

so I dont teach it, but only point you in the direction to do self-learning.

I cant really prove something to somebody that they must reveal to themselves.

my knowledge doesnt come from any particular book.  comes from bringing the truth within the subconscious to the conscious.

books, readings, and videos can only confirm that that I already know.


you cant raise peoples intelligence levels or awareness levels, they have to do it themselves.  all you can do is attempt to point them in the right direction.  

good convo tho fam.  lot of exchange of knowledge.
December 27, 2008 8:56 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

@butrflygrl

when you get in here, I want to discuss the concept of Godbeing "emotion-less" some more.

you always seem to present intelligent questions and reasoning.

let me elaborate a little more on that concept.

lets talk about emotion.    e- motion

which is energy (e) motivating movement (motion).

anger, fear, happiness, sadness, jealousy, etc.

all of these feelings evoke movement or action.

they are tools for the human being on earth.  they have no real purpose in a higher conscious realm if you think about it.

there is no point for God (ultimate God)  to "feel".

they help us get by.  but the supreme being wouldnt need those things.  does that make sense?

now of course the law of love concept still applies.

that emotion is our channel (or connection) to godliness.

if you notice, man is most spiritually in tact when exercising love for all things around him.

just wanted to touch on that some more...
December 27, 2008 9:36 AM
 

Bhudda Flii said:

hey ya'll. slept right through my birthday!! loved it!!

anyways,

just dropping in to update ya on the going ons...

WELL WELL WELL... i believe i told ya'll that the game was over... what do we have here??

Japan Should Scrap U.S. Debt; Dollar May Plummet, Mikuni Says

By Stanley White and Shigeki Nozawa

Dec. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Japan should write-off its holdings of Treasuries because the U.S. government will struggle to finance increasing debt levels needed to dig the economy out of recession, said Akio Mikuni, president of credit ratings agency Mikuni & Co.

The dollar may lose as much as 40 percent of its value to 50 yen or 60 yen from the current spot rate of 90.40 today in Tokyo unless Japan takes “drastic measures” to help bail out the U.S. economy, Mikuni said. Treasury yields, which are near record lows, may fall further without debt relief, making it difficult for the U.S. to borrow elsewhere, Mikuni said.

“It’s difficult for the U.S. to borrow its way out of this problem,” Mikuni, 69, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television broadcast today. “Japan can help by extending debt cancellations.”

The U.S. budget deficit may swell to at least $1 trillion this fiscal year as policy makers flood the country with $8.5 trillion through 23 different programs to combat the worst recession since the Great Depression. Japan is the world’s second-biggest foreign holder of Treasuries after China.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aFgHlh.Dn4Lc&refer=home

ya'll remember when WE used to do this same thing for THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES?????????????
-----------------------------

SPEAKING OF CHINA... BYE BYE DOLLAR!!!

BEIJING (AP) — China will launch a pilot project allowing its currency to be used in some international trade transactions, the government announced, a move aimed at shoring up the country's battered exporters.

The program would permit use of the yuan in trade between the self-governed Chinese territories of Hong Kong and Macau and the heart of the mainland export industry, Guangdong province and the Yangtze River delta, the central government Web site said in a statement late Wednesday.
----------------------------

AND OF COURSE, IT LOOKS LIKE ISRAEL IS COMING THROUGH WITH MY EARLIER PREDICTIONS!!

I'm sure ya'll know about them cutting up today. Well here's your response...

Moscow promises to support Palestine
By: atheo
RTnews
12/23/08

Moscow promises to financially support Palestine

Russia is ready to provide financial support to Palestine, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said. Lavrov made the announcement at a meeting with the President of the Palestinian National Authority Mahmoud Abbas in Moscow. Lavrov also said that Russia was fully supportive of Abbas's policy in the Middle East.
-----------------------
The Associated Press

CAIRO, Egypt: The Arab world reacted in shock to the attacks on the Gaza Strip on Saturday with scattered protests around the region and Egypt summoning the Israeli ambassador to express its condemnation of the strikes.

Arab foreign ministers are now rushing to Cairo for an emergency meeting of the Arab League on Sunday to address the crisis, said its chairman Amr Moussa.

LIBYA HAS CALLED AN EMERGENCY MEETING NOW AS WELL!!!
----------------
Well we knew it was coming. ITS NOW HERE.

Be safe and be prepared...

Later.


December 27, 2008 9:38 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

@streetweyes

you are very good at literal science.  but be careful not to limit yourself in the process.


religion plays catch up to science, science plays catch up to spirituality


"earth is flat" - religion

"earth is round"- science

"lets look at the entire universe show we"=  spirituality


I believe you said you do the studies of the kemetians.   then Im sure you go even further to the sumerians and their ancient knowledge of astronomy and physics  as well.

these people had accurate knowledge of the solar system, long before our sciences caught up to it.

they also had effective uses of electricity and battery technology, as you know im sure.
December 27, 2008 10:04 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

the problem with religion is it ignores science

the problem with science is that it ignores religion


spirituality is all inclusive.    that is all
December 27, 2008 10:05 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

This back and forth about who and what God is IS meaningless.
Prey deep prayers and Ask God to reveal himself to you and he will TRUST!
December 27, 2008 10:12 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

This back and forth about who and what God is IS meaningless.
Prey deep prayers and Ask God to reveal himself to you and he will TRUST!
December 27, 2008 10:12 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

SuperChrisbo said:
This back and forth about who and what God is IS meaningless.
Prey deep prayers and Ask God to reveal himself to you and he will TRUST!

===============================

when you be doing your deep prayers and get answers,

how do you distinguish "Gods voice" and your own voice using your perception of who/what God is?

and this advice you are giving.  are you doing so because that has worked for you?

uf so, what did you come up with (just out of curiosity)?
December 27, 2008 10:20 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

IM not going to lie @ first i was confused when i first start having the dreams and when i asked him to give me a sign that the dream was from him one of my friends or family members would have the same dream
December 27, 2008 10:31 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

@ hoodp

I ran into a guy with the same gift or ability to recieve messages from God but he actually see spirits or ghosts and stuff like that. It scares him so he smokes marijuana to delute his gift. True Shit  
December 27, 2008 10:35 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

thats interesting SuperChrisbo.

I actually am asking to understand your position.

if you dont mind, detail the dream.   tell me what it meant to you.  I find that interesting you say that you loved ones had the same dream.

i want to do more knowledge on the study of dreams.   I read somewhere that they are a window to a parallel universe.
December 27, 2008 10:37 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

@super chrisbo

that sounds similar to what the ancient africans and shamans did.

he must be spiritual.    what is your origin or nationality, if u dont mind my asking?

and what was the guys origin/nationality?
December 27, 2008 10:39 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

@ HoodP

I am African American,

     But anyway i was locked up sometime ago for a drug related charge, I went to sleep in my cell and Satan appeared to me but i could not hear him he said " If i continued to do the same thing" that landed me in jail that he would garantee me success and cars and women, basically everything i fancied at that time. When i woke up i prayed deep for te first time in my life because i was affraid.
Do you want more dreams of mine?
December 27, 2008 10:50 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

I mean I could not see him but what he showed me and promised me i knew it wasthe devil, satan or beelzebub.
December 27, 2008 10:56 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

@superchrisbo

ok.  that is interesting.

thats a shame that satan attached your success, cars and women to committing crimes because there are ways to get those things without it.  they say he is the greatest salesman tho.

Im judging from your belief in satan and praying to find answers, that you must be influenced by one of the three major religions.

are you of the christian faith?  or am I inferring too much?

also, syre u can drop some more dreams.  drop one that was enlightening or very meaningful to you, and tell me why.
December 27, 2008 10:57 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

Good Mornin yall.


u know what yall? even tho that debate/topic/convo got a lil heated. it was still a good one, nevertheless. despite the frustrations exhibited/felt, i do believe that there was value in the convo.

just wanted to say that. & it actually kinda reminded me of some of our old debates, in a way. at least in that ppl were genuinely expressing themselves & no1 felt that they cudnt contribute to the convo, for whatever reason.

good shit.



HoodProphet u the 1st one woke up? it was a late nite up in here. they was up in here tearin shit up. then they start partyin again after that, like aint nothing ever happen. gotta love AHH. LMAO 3x

u start cleanin up huh? okay, i'll help u. i got the dishes, then i can start on some breakfast...



Street, thnx. tryna feel better 2day. but yeah we all good enuff. hope u had a nice time w/ ur luved 1s as well.



Jube u crazy as hell, no comprendo otra vez. Sancho???? u talkin bout los santos? LMAO got me confused as hell.
ima check that song tho in a sec.

and ima go look at the links dropped from yesterday & the day b4. i aint have the energy to focus like that.



okay so HP, man, this is exactly what i feel, u already know that or not? idk. but im just sayin tho:

"my knowledge doesnt come from any particular book.  comes from bringing the truth within the subconscious to the conscious."

this is crucial to my personal belief system. the 3 layers of the mind are vast and i think the key to self-actualization is to bring truth w/in the unconscious & subconscious realms of the mind to consciousness.

i be sounding crazy or like im playin, but can u imagine the potential for human beings if we cud do that 2 the fullest? i believe there would truly be no division/distinction between man and God, the notion would be obsolete.

now let me dig into emotion-less again...






~BFG
December 27, 2008 10:57 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

I could not SEE him in the dream
December 27, 2008 10:58 AM
 

Killa2thaB said:

If peace, love & understanding are not @ the center of YOUR religion, than YOUR religion is lacking. If your religion causes you to become violent, than you should re-think your religion.
December 27, 2008 10:59 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

@ HoodP

Honestly I try to stay influenced by God alone and I know nothing about religion or the Sun God or whatever all I know is im following the One who saved me from prison, the grave and the multiple head serpent that i dreamed about. He took  me from being a young prominant drug dealer to becoming a successful engineer. And I am only 23 bro.
December 27, 2008 11:04 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

butrflygrl,

I agree.

you always saying something that better correlates what Im trying to say.   so whats a man to do when that happens?

Ill tell you...  just act like I said it in the first place  (lol)

so the new addition that I "subconsciously" said, and you just happened to repeat is:

"this is crucial to my personal belief system. the 3 layers of the mind are vast and i think the key to self-actualization is to bring truth w/in the unconscious & subconscious realms of the mind to consciousness.

i be sounding crazy or like im playin, but can u imagine the potential for human beings if we cud do that 2 the fullest? i believe there would truly be no division/distinction between man and God, the notion would be obsolete. "

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yea that uh work.   sound like something I would (and now did) say.   keep up the good work   (pats self on back, lol)
December 27, 2008 11:07 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

what up killa2dab.   aye, that logic makes sense to me.



SuperChrisbo said:
@ HoodP

Honestly I try to stay influenced by God alone and I know nothing about religion or the Sun God or whatever all I know is im following the One who saved me from prison, the grave and the multiple head serpent that i dreamed about. He took  me from being a young prominant drug dealer to becoming a successful engineer. And I am only 23 bro.

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aye, I can understand that.  if it works, it works.

engineering is a booming field.  always an available job.  good pick.

so u must be keen with the sciences.  geometry and such  (?)
December 27, 2008 11:10 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

@ HoodP

Before I was locked up I had a dream that i was riding on a Large Whale in this lake and the whale was doing all types of tricks and people were surrounding the lake cheering me and the whale on and when i fell off of the whale the people were not there anymore. after i woke up i knew my time selling was going to be over soon and there was going to be nobody arround to support me and later on that is exactly what happen.
December 27, 2008 11:12 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

@super chrisbo

judging from that account, i get the notion that you are intuitive and/or sensual.

do you walk into certain rooms and feel different energies?

do you operate on vibes?

can you shake a persons hand, look into their eyes, and determine their character?

if you say yes to all, dont ask me how I know.

if you say no, then I will blame the early morning for my miscalculation, lol
December 27, 2008 11:17 AM
 

Killa2thaB said:

@street sales: Nah nigga, All I said was dont fly off the handle so quick. What you did was, attempt to insult my intelligence. Just cause I dont log on and copy and paste whatever book Im currently reading dont mean that I aint aware. I choose to build w/ people who are in tune w/ building (not many on this site). On AHH, we have alot of niggaz who know everything and wont hesitate to throw it in your face. Problem is, once you know everything, you close your mind towards learning NEW things. The next time you respond to me w/ foolishness, Im not going to let it slide. By the way, that wasnt an apology. It was sarcasmn.
December 27, 2008 11:18 AM
 

Killa2thaB said:

What up Hood?
December 27, 2008 11:21 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

@super chrisbo

I actually wish I could analyze my dreams like that.

but if I dont think about it soon as I wake up, then they vanish.

I rarely remember my dreams.  some people remember them pretty vividly.  sound like you do.

I guess if I digged deep enough, I probably could conger up some old dreams tho.
December 27, 2008 11:23 AM
 

SuperChrisbo said:

@ HoodP

I have an intuitive understanding of algebra, trig, and some physics. Its just crazy how it is an equation to solve everything even electricity.
December 27, 2008 11:24 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

@killa2dab

aint shit.

aye, to pick the convo back up about will smith 7lbs movie.

the first thing I thought was that it was 7 people he helped.  and pounds represented like 7 weights (burdens) he had to lift.

then I started to think about maybe that was the weight of his heart.   but Im not sure how accurate that may be.  i got to research the weight of hearts.

then i concluded that maybe its the weight of all the organs that he gave out.   that makes sense to me too.

could be all three...
December 27, 2008 11:26 AM
 

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December 27, 2008 11:30 AM
 

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December 27, 2008 11:30 AM
 

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December 27, 2008 11:30 AM
 

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