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Tank: Justin Timberlake & Robin Thicke Are Making Better R&B Than Black Artists (VIDEO)

(AllHipHop News) Last year no African American artist had a number one single on Billboard Top 100 all year and the most successful rapper last year was white. The times are changing for the racial makeup of predominantly Black arts and long time R&B legend Tank spoke on how Black artists need to do  better.

In a February 7th interview with Black Hollywood Live Network, Tank not only touched on Justin Timberlake and Robin Thicke’s R&B commercial dominance but the incorrect categorization of certain artists. Tank points to Rihanna’s America Music Awards’ win in 2013 for Best Female Soul/R&B performance as an example of erroneous categorization:

We can’t hate on what it is.. we’re where we are… and Robin Thicke and Justin Timberlake are doing R&B music better than us… we need to catch up. What am I gonna do about the fact that the AMA’s in the R&B soul category nominated Robin Thicke, Justin Timberlake and Rihanna?.. What am I gonna do about that? It’s not her fault that she’s in the R&B soul category

Tank, who has not had a gold-certified album since 2001’s One Man says that the music industry has changed and the response to his upcoming single “You’re My Star” will be indicative of that change:

The music universe has finally made its way back around to my strength.. and I think that’s what’s going to be different about the response to the record.

Check out the full interview below:

  • Truth Powell

    What nonsense.
    The Robin Thicke album is pretty much electro pop.
    The Justin stuff is fake jive soul. Really listen to “Suit and Tie” during the verses. Embarrassing.

    • SleepyTheGreat

      True. Robin Thicke really has soul and has made some of the best soul music in the last decade. People didn’t notice him until this latest album when he pretty much sold his soul and goes against everything he’s ever done.

      • Jayson C Williams

        I was a fan of sex therapy honestly he kept the same format just ripped off Marvin Gaye lol. He knows his soul.. Can’t deny the whigger has soul

      • Truth Powell

        I got his new album cuz of For The Rest of My Life and Blurred Lines and was so disappointed.

      • SleepyTheGreat

        Yeah you can tell he did it for the money, sounds nothing like his previous work.

    • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

      Yeah the vocal was kinda of wack, but that beat was tight. Instruments make all the difference in the world.

  • Black Jay

    I can’t front…. WHERE THE HELL IS R&B NOWADAYS??????
    Cats be crying about hip hop and how it’s changed but r&b has taken some serious body blows. Frank Ocean came out (literally) and his album was decent, but check the radio. I don’t hear traditional R&B anywhere. Neo is on some club sh*t. Rhianna has always been on some club sh*t. Beyonce’s album is more hip hop than anything (but since it’s selling, it’s considered pop). Maxwell is off doing his Sade-Incognito impression, and who the hell knows when D’angelo will come out. Ain’t nobody really on the scene for R&B right now. Who stole the soul?

    • Truth Powell

      The Dream? His first three albums are hot to def…..

      • Black Jay

        Yeah, in the beginning. Now his sh*t is nowhere.The Dream’s albums were marketed by Def Jam and they totally f*cked his sh*t up. And that last album he came out with was some garbage. Saying “f*ck” a million times on his album showed he had nothing good to say. Good R&B gets at your heart or tells a story. There’s nothing original about saying “I want to f*ck you”. The Dream isn’t a good example.

      • SleepyTheGreat

        Don’t sleep on “The Dream”, I believe he did not put his best tracks on that last album because he know he was leaving Def Jam. That man has made hits. What about Miguel, The Weeknd and Chris Brown??

      • Black Jay

        Chris Brown???? Since when???? Chris Brown is as pop as they come.

        Let me clarify something. When I say R&B I mean the likes of Jodeci, Boys to Men, Marvin Gaye, Maxwell, Sade, Frankie Beverly & Maze, R Kelly (pre-molestation), Usher, Anita Baker, Anthony Hamilton, Babyface, Jill Scott, Joe….

        Now go to your Billboard magazine and tell me you see any one similar in product to that group. You may find one or two, but for the most part R&B has been MIA.

      • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

        You forgot Babyface con funk shun Gap band, Midnight star Soul to soul, Loose ends, Stephanie mills Barkays and So on , and So on.

      • Jayson C Williams

        Tina Marie.. Stacy lattisaw.. Johnny Gill, even Kieth Sweat begging ass. Who do we have really today? Nobody. It’s because we sold ourselves r&b and hiphop. Sold ourselves for bigger streams of revenue and marketing dollars. It’s always a new fight. Back in the day we faught for masters and royalties etc. Now were fighting to save what’s left of our genre since the big bucks really rolled in

      • Black Jay

        A lot of Black Music has become disposable. I traveled to Brazil and the sh*t I saw was amazing! Over there they actually have artists that are in the game at 75 and 80 years old. They worship their elders. Meanwhile in America, we sh*t on any superstar past the age of 40. It’s like our culture doesn’t have respect for art unless it has a pacifier in it’s mouth.

      • Jayson C Williams

        That’s the problem with us.. We see elders in a negative life. We rather live fast and die young but there’s no honor in that. It’s a genuinely good feeling seeing and old ass man two stepping his ass off and still has young woman going crazy and vice versa. What are we going to do about this country smh

      • Black Jay

        Cosign bro! I see that old cat with the hat tilted to the side and you gotta marvel at what he’s seen in his life. I mean imagine all the stories he could tell. And that’s the point. The youth aren’t paying attention. As you said, dieing young is the “cool” sh*t. Meanwhile we ain’t learning because we think we know it all. And the elders are the ones holding the libraries of experience. All we have to do is ask to access it.

      • Black Jay

        That’s some funny sh*t. Begging ass Keith Sweat…. Lol! I still be smashing chicks to that “Make It Last Forever” joint. Hahahaha…..

      • Jayson C Williams

        True story!!

      • Black Jay

        Who you telling? Those were some serious artists. But I guess things change. Back in the day you had a million dudes trying to sing on the corner. Now you have a million dudes trying to emcee on the corner? I’m just trying to figure out where the soul went.

      • Jayson C Williams

        I don’t think R. Kelly and pre-molestation go together. I think he’s always been doing this. He was fresh on the scene and doing it to Aaliyah.. Ijs

      • Black Jay

        Let’s not turn this into a discussion on perverts. For the sake of the argument, I agree. But that 12 Play by R Kelly was some serious R&B sh*t.

      • Jayson C Williams

        Ok Ima leave it alone. For the sake of r&b lol. But 12 play chocolate factory, Tp2 were all classics

      • Black Jay

        No doubt!

      • Truth Powell

        The Dream’s last two releases were wack I agree. I’m not a fan of cuss words on R&B songs either, but the first 3 were official.
        Stuff like Love Songs, Rockin That Thang, Sex Intelligent = dope.

    • Brindle

      neo-soul stold the soul then disappeared leaving r&b to be taken over by pop.. “Maxwell is off doing his Sade-Incognito impression” lmao…

    • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

      That’s the discussion we need to be having.

      • Black Jay

        WHO STOLE THE SOUL?

        I would argue there are multiple factions involved in this…. Here’s my list.

        1. Corporate America
        2. MTV/ BET
        3. Hip Hop
        4. Time

        5. The Internet
        6. Society as a whole

    • AlbertoRipRon

      LOL @ Maxwell doing his Sade Incognito impressions.

      I was trying to explain this to a clown who post on here. There’s no such thing as R&B nowadays. It’s so dominated by club/pop/house music its crazy. Sounds like some damn flamingo music…

      • Black Jay

        Cosign. That sh*t on the radio is not R&B. If Calvin Harris, Britney Spears , and T Pain had a threesome, this is the type of baby they would produce. Annoying as f*ck and completely void of any type internal reflection or social consciousness. I need some sh*t that I can relate to. Some sh*t that moves your soul. This sh*t is like eating a one piece after working hard all day. They leaving n*ggas hongry than a muthaf*cka!

  • majesticking

    Its all pop now, there are some real r&b artists out there however their not pop enough so they don’t get no shine, K Michelles’ album is a decent r&b album. R Kelley needs to resurrect some good old fashion R&B.

  • Jayson C Williams

    He’s right to n extent. Let’s dish some blame to these A&R’s who recruit faces instead of voices

  • David Gonz

    RNB SUCKS ANYWAYS. BRING BACK SOUL MUSIC. AND I DONT MEAN NEO SOUL.

    • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

      True!

    • Black Jay

      Cosign.

  • Brindle

    Just talking bout this… R&B artist (Musik, India Irie, Jill Scott, etc…) all made good R&B music but when they started calling it Neo Soul, they opened the door for pop acts, record labels and award shows to consider pop R&B. Todays r&b is yesterdays pop… its swinging back though…

  • JerZeBoy

    As he says this “Tank, who has not had a gold-certified album since 2001′s One Man”

  • Elayorx El

    Ok Tank; I’m surprised these days that anyone is even saying anything anymore. However, while I would like to really feel what Tank is expressing here, I’m not sure if the word “us”, even applies anymore. I mean, on the one hand, we speak of human solidarity, and breaking all color lines, blah, blah, blah. Then on the other, we have sentiments such as this, where we feel like “we” should be getting more notoriety, or should be doing better, as who, or what exactly? I’m not sure how long serving two masters is going to be able to last. By the way, the influence, not to mention production on the artists Tank mentioned, is heavily “soul” dominant, so I’m not so sure they are really doing anything “better”, per say, but I will say, as has been mentioned before, that the Reconstruction era is making it’s way back around again, as these last couple of years have clearly shown us.(first family included)

    • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

      I agree, I think r&b singer are trying to crossover too much , instead of being true too themselves and concentrate on making good soulful music with a band, and leave those damn drum Machine alone.

  • Executive

    I enjoy listening to JT and Robins music, dudes can’t be mad they just need to get the right producers and get to work.

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  • John Q. Public

    Robin Thicke’s old music was good, his new album is terrible. Im guessin sales were so good because he just came off the Real Husbands of Hollywood hype… because musically he old sh*t is way better.

    D’Angelo needs to drop his album this year.

    Lyfe Jennings is dope to me.

    Maxwell is good even tho Black Summers Night was his weakest album to me. Hes due for new album.

    Anthony Hamilton never disappoints either.

    • Black Jay

      I agree. Lyfe has some mental issues. We’ll leave it at that. Maxwell is dope but he needs to have more substance than that last album.

      Man…. Cats may not agree with me but Sade is one of the dopest artists of all time! There’s not many artists alive that can do what she’s done. She’s a megastar without the cameras. And yet she still has the same band for all of these years. How many performers can say that? Hell, even Madonna sold her soul to the house machine just to stay relevant. But Sade never budged. Dope chick!

      • John Q. Public

        Never got too deep into her music but have heard some good tracks… What would you say is her best album?

        And as for Lyfe…Years in prison can make you a lil diff then average person… But I enjoy his music, recent album was his weakest tho

      • Black Jay

        Man, I couldn’t even tell you. I listen to all of her stuff. But be warned…. Don’t ever listen to her sh*t if you’ve broken up with a chick. You might kill yourself. Lol!

      • Esteban

        HAHAHAHA

      • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

        Grab her greatest hits

      • John Q. Public

        Might have to check it out on Spotify later

      • BIG MIKE SOMETHING SERIOUS

        I agree Wasn’t soldier of love a dope cut. That beat was wicked. she kept her style and just updated her sound. Genius!!!

      • Black Jay

        That sh*t was a banger. I f*cks with Sade.

      • ZUBU

        Co-Sign Sade’s fine ass. She as real as they come she do her thang, when she wants to do her thang. The corp-machine don’t control her, and she private as shitt.

      • Black Jay

        Man….. On some real sh*t? Most of the artists in all genres can learn something from that chick. Class act. And although age is knocking at her door, she’s still fine than a mug!

    • C.Berry Latina and PROUD

      D’Angelo playin…

  • wickedjones

    guess what brother (tank) if u stole Marvin Gayes music, you will have a number 1 single also…

  • The_Good_Life

    Tank is not A list R&B and is just looking for attention by race bating. Just going by their audience JT and RT would lean more towards pop. Neo been producing and writing hits for himself and Whitney, MJ, Beyonce, Celine Dion etc. Miguel, another writer/ producer is next in line.

    • Black Jay

      Race baiting????? Okay… If you had said the reporter was race baiting, I might roll with you. But I don’t think Tank was race baiting. Listen to your local radio station and you will see what he’s talking about. I think you need to check your filter dude. I don’t think anybody on this thread has said anything about Black vs. White. So that probably means the average person didn’t see some “race issue” like you did.

      • The_Good_Life

        Sorry man. He could have been baited by the question. I just don’t like when artist go on black media and start talking bout us and they.

      • Black Jay

        No problem dude. That racial thing is frustrating sometimes.

      • Nu Age

        especially for those who go through racism

      • brotha_man

        we dont know the full context of the conversation

      • Black Jay

        Actually we do. The whole video is shown up top. It wasn’t race baiting.

    • ccwaterbound32

      correction ass kissing…

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  • C. Black

    I’ve been wondering the same thing. Myself and the wifey still banging that live RnB in the crib and the whip though. LSG, Keith Sweat, Tyrese, Ideal had a cut I liked, SWV, etc

  • John Q. Public

    Is he being interviewed by a white guy on a network called Black Hollywood Live?

  • kane pacino

    still playin donell jones ‘my heart’ in the whip . . classic

    • brotha_man

      just the other day I was bumping that dave hollister – getto hymns “my favorite girl” thinking about some shit i got into wit a side broad

  • trapstar3

    sellin more records? maybe, makin better music??? thats a reach theres a big difference

    • Arrie Mental Woodard

      no its not a reach…. what is one of the so called hottest songs on the radio…. that Ausgust Alsina dude singing about “Im way to Drunk, Im way to high blah blah….. this mufuggy said some shit about “this puzzy feelin amazing”… these mufuggies way too turnt up to be singing real shit. they might as well be rappers. shit corny as shit now

    • Esteban

      Have you even heard what’s being played today? Most of it is laced with straight bullshit. The RnB of this generation is absolutely terrible.

  • brotha_man

    R&B been dead. What happened to Musiq soulchild, my wifey jill scott, floetry, maxwell, jagged edge, mary J blige (couldnt get a man mary, not happy mary),….keshia cole, raheem devaughn, etc…….. R&B dead we had some dope ass sanga’z back in the day

    • David Gonz

      BESIDE MARY ALL THE NAMES U JUST SAID WASNT REALLY BRINGING IT COMPARED TO THEIR HYPE HOMIE.

      • Slick2daE

        Should he have said Lauryn Hill, old Usher, Eryka Badu, Boyz II Men, Ginuwine, Dru Hill, R Kelly, 112, Brian McKnight, SWV, Tyrese, TLC, Monica, Brandy, K-Ci & JoJo, Janet Jackson, Tevin Campbell, Montell Jordan, Joe, Toni Braxton, The Fugees, Blackstreet, Jodeci, Jesse Powell, New Edition, D’Angelo, Keith Sweat, Soul For Real, Donell Jones, or Faith Evans?

      • Arrie Mental Woodard

        man you tripping…. jill scott is a household name, maxwell as well.

      • David Gonz

        NOT IN MY HOUSEHOLD MY HIGGA WE BUMP TEENA MARIE.

      • Arrie Mental Woodard

        oh well shiiiiit if you going ol skool then im with you, Teena Marie, a little Rick James, some Prince, marvin, teddy hhahaha i feel that!!!

      • David Gonz

        give it 10 years nobody will talk about jill scott my gee.

      • brotha_man

        i will

      • David Gonz

        OK LET ME REPHRASE THAT. GIVE IT 10 YEARS AND NOBOIDY WILL LISTEN TO YOU TALKING ABOUT JILL SCOTT MY GEE.

      • WTF?

        I will. Good try but Jill Scott is very relevant.

      • David Gonz

        WHO?

  • brotha_man

    R.I.P Willie Hutch. The G.O.A.T

    • John Q. Public

      Respect…

      But to me Curtis is the GOAT

      Nothin like the old school Soul, will never be the same

      • brotha_man

        cant go wrong with curt

    • luzzjl524

      my Aunty Julia got silver Volkswagen Beetle
      Convertible by working parttime off of a home computer… Look At This
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  • That’s rubbish and we all know it. There are so many black artists who make good music out there but aren’t getting the exposure they need.

    And we all know that hype sells these days not real rnb music.

    Not hating on Justin and them just saying that’s all.

  • Give more rnb artists airplay!!!!

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  • He may have somewhat of a point, but who cares! What really matters is that Tank is saying that not a lot of R&B marketing is done by Blacks due to the up and coming segregation in the Music Biz and we must be careful of what to say to him and about him. For all we know, he’ll might snap one day.

  • WTF?

    It’s all exposure, I can’t even believe he would say that.
    Jill Scott, Maxwell, Ledisi, Angie Stone… yes they may not have music out now (Ledisi does), but to reach this far is ridiculous. Not only that, but that’s TWO artists. Why do we pick just Jusin and Robin and say they’re doing better? Hello, look who’s behind them!
    Pharell and Marvin Gaye (ha ha) for Blurred Lines and Timbaland for JT. I’m not saying they’re fully responsible, but a statement like this is a SERIOUS reach.

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