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Dead? Wrong!: Why New York Hip-Hop Has Never Died

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Pick an MC. Any MC. Ask him/her which MC made him/her want to rap. Then ask that rapper’s idol MC who inspired the idol to rap and so on.

DJ-Kool-HercIf you follow the influential bread crumbs, you’ll always find yourself back to 1520 Sedgewick Avenue in the Bronx, New York, where DJ Kool Herc breathed the first rap onto the break-beat. That will be the case even if you start with an MC with an accent of the crocodile hunter, or a rapper who spits bars in Cantonese.

As the mecca and birthplace of Hip-Hop culture, New York City will forever be the most consistent powerhouse of Hip-Hop’s cultural influencers. Many critics and even fans say that the New York Hip-Hop has perhaps taken a back seat to its Southern cousin’s bass and synthesizers. To attribute flailing record sales, radio spins, and TV appearances as indicators that the New York Hip-Hop scene is irrelevant is as shallow as it is dead wrong.

Since when do we attribute the cultural value of an area to popularity? Drake is, without a doubt, more popular or “hotter” than New York MCs like Action Bronson or Joey Bada$$, but would that give grounds to call Toronto a richer hot spot for new Hip-Hop than New York? Not even close.

On any given year, New York has blessed Hip-Hop with at least a couple of the top anthems of the year. Even in 2006, a year when critics said that New York’s dominance had been replaced by D4L’s “snap-rap,” veterans like Nas and Busta Rhymes put out bangers such as “Touch It” and “Hip-Hop Is Dead” to show that The Big Apple would be represented on the Billboard charts. Even now, New York rapper French Montana’s “Pop That” is currently sitting at #2 on the Rap and Hot R&B/Hip-Hop songs charts at press time.

NickiMinaj_ThatGrapej1Nicki Minaj, a femcee whose influence has reached beyond the realm of Hip-Hop and into Pop culture, had one of the best selling albums of 2012 with Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded, selling over 1 million records worldwide, according to Soundscan. And, she made it very clear on her platinum selling single, “Moment 4 Life” what borough she reps. (“Young Money raised me/grew up out in Baisley/ Southside Jamaica, Queens and it’s crazy…”).

It’s true. Many modern MCs like Smoke DZA and A$AP Rocky, have taken to the Southern style of production versus resorting to their region’s trademark boom-bap, but that is what makes Hip-Hop fresh and moves the culture forward. Imagine if Biggie rapped on Run DMC’s rock-styled beats instead of drawing inspiration from the modern funk-based beats of his day, like Ice Cube’s AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted or NWA’s Niggaz4Life. Hip-Hop would have never known Ready To Die – or experienced the return New York Hip-Hop to the airwaves – if Big felt that his sound should remain in the regional dress code of modern New York.

A$AP RockyIf A$AP Rocky’s version of Screw Music is honest and quality music, does it matter that his overall sound originated from the Screw-up Click of Houston rather than the Diplomats of Harlem? Artists like Action Bronson and Joey Bada$$ have proven that the boom-bap will always have its place in the heart of New York Hip-Hop, but to only limit New York MCs to the boom-bap would cause New York Hip-Hop to become one dimensional. It’s too rich with creativity to be stuck in a ’90s Golden Era time capsule, and is now evolving before our eyes.

Radio and the press might not be giving New York as much spotlight as it deserves, but just give it time. The world will soon realize that not only did New York Hip-Hop never die, but New York is still the city that never even sleeps…on innovation or the fact that it birthed what the rest of you are doing to this very day.

  • Opposite Of Everyone

    Noone really believes popularity signifies skill do they ? Paradoxically though, it is harder to please 1 million people than it is to please 1,000,,.

    Furthermore, the south sound wasn’t created by the south! 808 beats and synths were hot in 80’s production and the halftime beat was first used in hip-hop by Timbo but found before in many 70s funk and fusion records.
    and there’s really no need bringin Nicki into this to defend NY, she’s barely rap music, never mind Hip-Hop.

    • jondoe

      where was it created then?

      • Pierre Elliott

        THE BRONX ASSHOLE. 1974.

      • jondoe

        Nigga u stupid, he didn’t say when or where hip hop was created, he said the south got there style from some where, which he means the south’s style of hip hop, not where hip hop in general came from u piece of shit

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        take a listen to “together forever” by run dmc 1985 and all will be revealed.

      • jondoe

        but that 808 shit just started in like 2009…when the south 1st got hot, we had our original style nothin like NY, a little west coast g-funk inspiration, but no NY inspired shit

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        wtaf?? i just showed you the evidence! 808 beats started – believe it or not – when the 808 came out in the 80s! And the core drum pattern typified in south rap music is here evidenced in “together forever” from an NY group in 85. An how can you say south style is “no NY inspired shit”?? do you think the south had never heard hip-hop and just invented the sh1t outta nowhere ? c’mon man…

      • jondoe

        That’s not the south’s drum pattern that just a 808. That’s like saying everybody that use a guitar is copying elvis, which is not true. Go listen to early UGK, outkast, or early geto boys, IT WAS NO 808s in they’re music the south had a bluesy sound unlike NY’s jazzy sound. Geto boys had a west coast inspired style, NY just started rap, yall didnt inspire the style in which the south made their raps, our beats are different, we rap different & our subject matter is different, & Now u got NY niggas like french & asap trying to sound like southern artists

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        If South rappers weren’t inspired by NY they would’ve never started rappin. You don’t start practicin a genre of music unless you’re inspired by it. the Jazz influence in NY rap didn’t start til around 89 around the same time the south started up. Prior to that we had 17 years of NY hip-hop and from 84-87 the sound was basically just raw drum beats and cuttin. Go ask original Southern rappers who inspired em… And while we’re at it the difference between the together forever rhythm and your core south rhythm is negligible.Jut like the diffeence between one south beat and another.

      • jondoe

        Believe me, if anything we were inspired by ice T & NWA, not public enemy & run dmc. Ice T was hot in the mid 80’s, nwa the late 80’s. The 1st southern artist to blow was Scarface & he dropped in 1991, & his music had a west coast style about it, UGK rapped like MC eiht from compton when they 1st came out…The only southern artist directly inspired by NY was outkast who were inspired by tribe called quest. So yes, we’re inspired by west coast, surely the west was inspired by NY but the south was not. Do you think lex luger & drumma boy get on the keyboard & say “I want that run dmc 808 sound”? Hell no, niggas just so happen to use the instrument & you right, NY rap from the 80’s was disco(kurtis blow) at first then rock(run dmc), then it was boring drum beats with no soul in it, then dr.dre came & put real music & melodies into hip hop

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        Those boring drum beats (in hip-hop we call them breaks) are
        the essence of hip-hop and inspired generations of b boys and MC’s. And you talk about soul? The south sound is the epitome of soulless! Your drum patterns are all quantised to sh1t with every hit maxed at 127 velocity. Wheres the human expression/soul in that?? The MC’ flows are straight quaver nursery rhymes which only makes the whole experience more robotic. Soul aint found in a drum machine and synthesizer.

        The essence of hip-hop is rawness. We already got plenty genres for melodies, but y’all confused hip hop with pop and settled for ‘Rap Music’.
        The south don’t make hip-hop, it makes rap music. Hip-Hop is more than just rap, it’s 5 elements. If you only embracin rap then that aint hip-hop.

        N’ actually Geto boys been rappin since mid 80s and we heard Miami tracks from 84. All of em had they own flavour but were directly influenced by NY. NY invented the genre, anyone else doin it was therefore by default influenced by NY. Can’t rewrite history when the witnesses are still around.

      • jondoe

        what u mean “your drum patterns are all…” The south is most versatile of any coast. We got political(scarface, big krit) we got comical(ludacris) we got club shit(Three6mafia) you name it we got it & the beats match it too & you saying the essence is rawness? Hip Hop started as party music! & I’m from tx, I know when geto boys started, I said scarface BLEW UP in 1991. “Breaks” were boring & its no nursery rhymes here, You try to point fingers at the south like they simplified hip hop but hip hop started simple, it wasn’t until the 90’s when wordplay & lyricism came. Rakim was the only one rapping with wordplay. You had east coast kid n play, arguably the 1st hip hop dance group, not to mention bay area’s digital underground who made “Humpty hump”. NY cats are just bitter because there are not on the pedestal anymore, they hated on the west coast when death row took over & now the south. Any topic you found in the “golden era” you can find that same topic being spoke about today & much more. LL cool j “I’m bad”, what is he doing on that song? Bragging about himself, just like 85% of Run DMC songs they just boasted about themselves. I say them because they are the main artists who’s name pop up in these discussions. KRS-One had a song called “9 millimeter”. The only thing changed about hip hop is that its not being ran by the east coast anymore

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        In my opinion all them south cats you named are below par,
        an I’m talking accent, flow and production value. Your claim that the South is more diverse is straight Ludicrous (no pun intended). In terms of production NY has been through more sounds than there are rednecks in Tx. (and if you don’t like breaks you are basically admitting you’re not hip-hop). Matter of fact Dipset did your ‘south style’ drum pattern before you…. But nevermind, I understand that kids do dig the south and adolescents are the clear target market we’re talking about for rap music as opposed to hip-hop nowdays so yeah you’re popular, in fact you’re straight pop.

        Now Hip-hop didn’t start out following the popular music structure with sung or repeated choruses. It was raw, straight spitting over breakbeats but got turned into ‘rap music’ once Major labels saw the crossover appeal, which is where you lot fit in…

        Yeah Hip-hop started out as party music but NY MC’s styles evolved
        and became more technical with wordplay (from ’84 not 90’s) whilst still holding onto their roots as a street based /raw art form. And as for Rakim being ‘the only one rapping with wordplay’ ? ufkouttahere ! Masta Ace, Ultramagnetic, BDP, Kool G Rap, X Clan, P.E, De la Soul, BDK, Jay Z, TCQ, Mobb Deep, The Wu, B.I.G, Def Squad, Busta Rhymes all featured flows that are infinitely more sophisticated than your typical southern strung out half asleep style. Furthermore,these artists pioneered sounds. In NY it was a producers prerogative to make sure your track didn’t sound like anyone elses. For the South it’s almost the opposite to that on some ‘don’t stray from the formula’ ish. For lyrics though you needs to remember, it’s not about the topic, it’s about how it’s explored in flow, creativity and insight. Themes of violence, misogyny and power can be explored intelligently and
        profoundly as NY have demonstrated and taught the rest of you how to. Or, they can be sound like a post-lobotomy speech therapy session like, well take your pick from your average Southern ‘rapper’.

        so you’re wrong, Hip-hop is still being run by the East, but RAP MUSIC is being ran by the corporations and whichever artist is the most violent or explicit is deemed to be likely to sell the most copies to its core purchasers – suburban caucsasians.

      • jondoe

        I said rakim was the only one with wordplay in the 80’s. Kool G was cool but the rest of them niggas you named are from the 90’s ( At least the GOOD ones). & NY aint been thru no sounds, ALL Rza’s beats sound the same. Same old jazz sounding shit, & NY cats today make music that sounds like it should’ve came out in ’93. People gravitate to our accent, flow & production value, & if Kendrick lamar & J.cole can rap about shit backpackers(which I’m sure you are) wanna hear about & still make it #1 album in the country then that goes to show ain’t nobody checking for NY rappers with “substance”. You purists sit on websites & complain about the state of hip hop but do nothing to help it you just wanna point fingers maybe you should go out & buy a album or 2 & maybe these “Ignorant” rappers will step their bars up instead of complaining about the south. You might believe those rappers I named are below par, But i feel the same about half of Wu-Tang & Busta Rhymes. & you say there were no repetitive hooks, when you got a song like “The message” where he repeats “It’s like a jungle sometimes…” or BDP’s “The Bridge is Over” in which KRS says “The bridge is over: repeatedly on the hook? Come on now, talk about re-writing history. Plus, Dipset didn’t start nothing, Cam’ron said himself he was influenced by Master P & No Limit. Old Cash Money from the late 90’s was the true start or original southern style instrumentals & that is the formula followed today if anything, & Dipset came out in the early 2000’s so that statement is invalid. Havoc, Rza, Large Professor & 80% of the 90’s NY producers’ beats sound like they could have been made by the same person. And yeah I hate “breakbeats” & if that makes me not hip hop then I will be that because that shit is wack, The south didn’t even want no parts of it until NWA came with real instrumentals the south was not checking for NY. Pimp C once said “We ain’t begging you NY cats to be down with hip hop, if that’s how you feel then f*ck hip hop, this country rap tunes then” & I much rather be that than bs break, soul-less “hip hop” of the mid & early 80’s.

      • Pierre Elliott

        wow I sat here and read everything. first of all alpo. NWA and Ice Cube were inspired by NY rappers.

        And second, the south NEVER sat out anything. The south had NOTHING to say.. You had MC Shy D and 2LIVE but other than a couple groups here and there, there was no south until the early middle
        90s, and thats not talking about the RAP-A-LOT label roster.

        Maybe you slept on the south I didn’t. But the new south, has NOTHING to do with its forefathers ( of southern rap/hip hop)
        you need to understand player. that this current gen of RAP music
        is ALL CONTROLLED by white people behind a desk.

        All the real music, they don’t give a chance or play because they have back handed deals with the radio stations which in turn are owned by advertising companies looking for new revenue.

        So in turn, whatever you like means nothing because they are going to give you WHO they WANT YOu to SEE.

        Understand, there is another world behind what you are seeing.
        And if you are black you NEED to WAKE UP brother.

        You are watching lies and brain washing my brother.

      • jondoe

        I’m black, & I said like 2 comments ago that I know Nwa & Ice T etc was inspired by NY, but the south wasn’t. The south didn’t participate until we saw the west do it & we were like “OK this is hot”. & You say the south had nothing to say? Every rapper of the 90’s has been influenced by scarface from Ice cube to tupac to Jay-z. I’ve seen interviews where they all praised him. 2 Live crew came out right after NWA, yes, They were NWA influenced not NY influenced. Hip hop has been controlled by white people ever since Def Jam anyway this ain’t just the “new south”. Jerry Heller with NWA just to throw 1 name out. In this new age, radio is becoming more & more irrelevant its alot of rappers today with no advertisement/hit singles or signed that’s selling out shows. That tired excuse that “White People are pushing bubblegum rappers” is played out. You got independent artists with top selling albums these days buddy, It’s not 2004 anymore. I don’t even listen to radio or watch BET/MTV i got a ipod full of underground & a few mainstream artists I like. Don’t nobody want to here that boring “conscious” rap & that’s why it’s not being pushed btw, people like to hear music that make them feel good

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        2 live crew came out 84

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        ok let’s wind this up then (you can have the last word).

        As far as you’re concerned hip-hop pioneers and legends such as Masta Ace, Ultramagnetic, BDP, X Clan, P.E, De la Sou/l, BDK, Jay Z and TCQ who were all out in the 80’s were ‘no good’. you don’t like breakbeats so much so you’d rather be labelled ‘country rap’ if that’s at odds the fundamentals of hip-hop the culture.

        I don’t understand why you bother to afilliate yourself with notion of hip-hop in the first place cause all them artists are straight and pure Hip-Hop from it’s origin !

        If you don’t see the South as hip-hop then there’s no argument. You just some Rap Music along with all the rest of the rap music out there. Good lookin.

        But – and I’m assuming you kinda young as your datas kinda off point re the 80s – do you really think prior to NWA no south cats was listening to hip-hop ? You don’t think no NY artists toured the south or sold records in the south and enjoyed what they heard enough to be inspired by it ??

        C’mon Son.

      • jondoe

        Yeah all of them wack to me except Jay-z who really came into his own in ’95. & what I’m saying about break beats is that it is soul-less with no emotion & the south NEVER participated in that therefore if that’s what YOU call hip hop then we are not that. Hip hop was not fully formed then so it was not the best. Saying that early 80’s shit is better than the music thats dropped since the mid 90’s is like saying a nintendo is better than a Xbox just because it was invented 1st. & I never said we didn’t listen to NY, i said the south wasn’t inspired to participate in it until we saw the west do it because they spoke on real shit people in urban communities can relate to like police brutality & whatnot. East coast Hip Hop was all fun & games until “the message” came out in ’85 & by then ICE T & Too short was rapping about reality. The south did not have any acts until the west came in, because they felt where the west were coming from & can rap about that type of stuff too

      • jondoe

        I said rakim was the only one with wordplay in the 80’s. Kool G was cool but the rest of them niggas you named are from the 90’s ( At least the GOOD ones). & NY aint been thru no sounds, ALL Rza’s beats sound the same. Same old jazz sounding shit, & NY cats today make music that sounds like it should’ve came out in ’93. People gravitate to our accent, flow & production value, & if Kendrick lamar & J.cole can rap about shit backpackers(which I’m sure you are) wanna hear about & still make it #1 album in the country then that goes to show ain’t nobody checking for NY rappers with “substance”. You purists sit on websites & complain about the state of hip hop but do nothing to help it you just wanna point fingers maybe you should go out & buy a album or 2 & maybe these “Ignorant” rappers will step their bars up instead of complaining about the south. You might believe those rappers I named are below par, But i feel the same about half of Wu-Tang & Busta Rhymes. & you say there were no repetitive hooks, when you got a song like “The message” where he repeats “It’s like a jungle sometimes…” or BDP’s “The Bridge is Over” in which KRS says “The bridge is over: repeatedly on the hook? Come on now, talk about re-writing history. Plus, Dipset didn’t start nothing, Cam’ron said himself he was influenced by Master P & No Limit. Old Cash Money from the late 90’s was the true start or original southern style instrumentals & that is the formula followed today if anything, & Dipset came out in the early 2000’s so that statement is invalid. Havoc, Rza, Large Professor & 80% of the 90’s NY producers’ beats sound like they could have been made by the same person. And yeah I hate “breakbeats” & if that makes me not hip hop then I will be that because that shit is wack, The south didn’t even want no parts of it until NWA came with real instrumentals the south was not checking for NY. Pimp C once said “We ain’t begging you NY cats to be down with hip hop, if that’s how you feel then f*ck hip hop, this country rap tunes then” & I much rather be that than bs break, soul-less “hip hop” of the mid & early 80’s

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  • Robbin hood

    Nicki minaj and asap rocky are the most one dimensional artists out there but you can’t quote masta ace, sean price, ghost face,talib, monch, torae,etc etc etc etc who have all defended the integrity of new york hip hop in those years by dropping some of their most creative work during that period.

  • Dee

    yeah what he said…facebook.com/freeolspeech

  • WatDaFuckIsWrongWitYoFaceNigga

    joe budden, joell ortiz, lloyd banks, 50 cent. Enough said.

    • BoldSpice

      No, that’s not enough.

    • Bumpy Johnson

      wtf.

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  • Pierre Elliott

    DOWN SOUTH OR TRAP RAP BEATS. ALL, I SAID ALL ORIGINATE FROM THE EARLY 80S STYLE. STEADY B, AND ALOT OF PHILLY ARTISTS ROCKED THIS STYLE, AS WELL AS MOST NYC MCS.

    THE SOUTH BIT IT, AND SLOWED DOWN THE RPMs.

    • Pierre Elliott

      CHECK STEADY Bs early POP Art Record Releases and see what im saying.
      Even RUNDMC had this style on raising Hell—Dumb Girl

    • Chris

      You could say the same thing about the so-called “real hip-hop” sound from New York. All Marley Marl, Large Professor and the rest of them did was take samples from old records and add drums to it. I guess New York did a little bit of “biting” as well. SMH.

      • Pierre Elliott

        dude, I understand what your TRYING to say. BUT YOU CANT… so dead it.
        Im from ohio and have lived in NYC for over 20 years.
        That being said: NY created Hip Hop as we ALL KNOW it.
        They were the first ones to sample records, the first to incorporate ALL musical styles into the beats.

        You can NEVER take away from the legacy. STRIP and TRAP music have nothing and are nothing.

        And yeah they sampled, but the MUSICAL aspect was to CONVEY the
        EMOTIONAL aspects of what they were saying.

        TRAP and STRIP or DEVOID of this. ANd this is why the BEAST pushes this
        bullshlt on the masses. To keep you dumb and blind and in sheep status.

        And ALOT of the ARTIST THAT WERE SAMPLED, experienced a resurgence in music sales, and were brought back into the spotlight. The Isley Bros.
        are a example of this.

        So never ever say what you said about NY producers or Hip Hop ever again.
        The dudes of this so called gen are wack and terrible and that includes
        NY producers such as Swizz Beats, and Just Blaze among MANY others..

      • Pierre Elliott

        Even Issac Hayes came back into his own when the Geto Boys
        sampled: Hung up on my baby.

      • Chris

        No one is denying New York’s place in hip-hop, but to claim that the South “bit” something based on some 808 drums is ridiculous and rather narrow-minded. Why even bring up the South in the first place when the article has nothing to do with the South? I don’t get why you and disgruntled brothas’ like you are so mad at the South anyways. The South has always been consistent. The South was doing 808, trap-type music long before the rest of the world caught on. It’s not the South’s fault that that sound became the sound of the entire industry. It’s not the South’s fault that major label CEOs and A&Rs, mostly based in New York, decided that New York wasn’t poppin’ anymore. If you don’t like it, ignore it. I’m from the South, but I grew up on New York hip-hop because that’s what I saw on TV and heard on the radio back then. No need to get all butt-hurt about it, bruh. That’s life. NYC couldn’t reign forever, but there are plenty of talented MCs on every coast still puttin’ in work. Maybe if you ignore the fluff, it’ll go away.

      • Pierre Elliott

        YEAH AND HOW DO YOU FEEL AS A SOUTHERNER, AND YOU HEAR THIS ABOUT DOWN SOUTH MUSIC? AND THE ONLY GUYS WHO GET BURN ARE THE DUMB ONES? AS A BLACK PERSON I FIND IT OFFENSIVE. ITS NOT ABOUT REIGN, ITS ABOUT KEEPING A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND ITS LISTENERS IN A CONSTANT STATE OF IGNORANCE. AND PLAYA, GOOD TRUE MUSIC NEVER GOES OUT OF STYLE, THATS WHAT THE LABELS WANT CAUSE ITS BASED ON A BOTTOM LINE… PERIOD. THATS WHY THERE ARE NO INDIE RAP LABELS, FROM ATL TO FLA TO NY. CAUSE THE MAJORS BOUGHT THEM OUT, THEN SHELVED ALL THE ARTISTS…

    • Pierre Elliott

      AND IL SAY IT AGAIN: other than The Geto Boys. 2LIVE.OutKAST. Bun B. Devin.8Ball MJG *********TheGodfathers of Southern Hip Hop.
      ALL SOUTH TRAP and STRIP ARE WILL FOREVER BE SEEN AS GARBAGE…

      • Bumpy Johnson

        please include SUC. in there.

      • jondoe

        you new york niggas trash too since you put it like that

    • Bumpy Johnson

      chill out…houston ain stole nothing. i wonder if ASAP got permission to screw his shit.;;it pisses me off hearing that from him and kendrick.

  • Aaron Davis

    No doubt NY is the Mecca of Hip-hop but dat dnt mean Da South aint runnin the game right now & has been since like ’06. From Wayne to Luda, Ross to T.I., Jeezy to 2chainz, Future to Soulja Boy etc I mean the list goes on. When ppl say da South has taken over, they are referring to popularity,radio play, album sales & mainstream media. NY hasnt had a HUGE artist since 50 Cent (all respects to Fab & Jadakiss tho). They just havent had some1 who makes consistent hit records & goes platinum consistently as well…Even b4 record sales were majorly declining

    • BoldSpice

      South had that shyt since like 97/98 when the No Limit and Cash Money music was taking over. Jay Z, Ruff Ryders and Nas was NY hip hop’s life vest at that time.

      • Bumpy Johnson

        black rob, G deb, Shyne, Cam , Mase, Ja rule, come’on now.

    • jondoe

      the south been running shit since no limit in ’98

  • BoldSpice

    If it aint dead that shyt been in a coma for a long azz time.

  • jondoe

    asap does not make screw/houston music…It’s more to houston music than just slowing down your hook on a song. Matter fact aint NO houston artist got any songs like that, we take a sample from a old screw song & use it on the hook already screwed, we don’t screw our own voice. I know its petty, but I hate when ppl say that, & i like asap but he does not make texas style music his beats don’t even sound like no shit the screwed up click would rap over…real talk

  • MiiUziWeighsATon

    Ima Jersey cat and I must disagree with this article…the rap scene in NYC is weak right now and the culprit is too much down south dicklicking…no MC from NY is coming with that heat NYC MCs are known for, there’s no originality or depth to the music…all you hear is trash rappers over some watered down southern styled beats wit alot of southern MC featured….NYC has lost its ear for a dope ass beat…there is no more lyrical exercise coming out of NYC…..Rick Ross more NY than NYers with his style of rap and his beat selections….he throw a lil stripper music in there but for the most part it sounds like some Pete Rock type shyt….NY gotta get back to creativity, concepts, pure lyricism and dope beat selection and get off the south dick and stop worrying about sales and what the labels want…none of these niggaz go holla at Premo or none of the top producers to create a NYC sound

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