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damn that's messed up....umm first?

Wow. Sad to hear. My condolences to the Benz family.

how is it dr dres son didnt get the same headline respect? or did i miss it and it was only good enough for the rumors section?

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Ridah said:
how is it dr dres son didnt get the same headline respect? or did i miss it and it was only good enough for the rumors section?

it did mane...and yes u missed it

http://allhiphop.com/stories/news/archive/2008/08/26/20446619.aspx

I saw this news on http://www.casualseek.com

What does his son look like???which one is he in the shottas movie???

Very Sad.

R.I.P & God Bless Us All.

@ Cabana da Don

Spragga's son played him as a kid in "Shottas"...the scene where the lil nukkas jacked dude in the truck...

Terrible, terrible tragedy...
May the LORD accept his soul & may the police that murdered him rot in hell.

So they planted a gun on him?  Thats Dirty!

its f**ked up and sad but this is the reality in so many black areas of the world including the u.s.

Condolences to the fam.  This gotta be some painful shit for Spragga and Dre.  Parents shouldn't have to bury their kids.  Shit like this makes me cherish every moment I have with my son cause you never know.

First off condolences to the family because losing a loved one/child is painful no matter what!  BUT...

Am I missing something?  The story says that police stopped the dudes and then they began shooting at police...
Spragga's son ran (with whoever else) and was later found with a gun and wounded...
WHY ARE THE POLICE WRONG IF THEY RETURNED FIRE AFTER INITIALLY BEING FIRED ON?  

According to the information given here the police were just doing their job!  If someone starts a shoot out with police officers and they return fire then how is that "Murder"?
There might be more to this story but with the information provided above the shooting seems justified...

jojodove77 said:
According to the information given here the police were just doing their job!  If someone starts a shoot out with police officers and they return fire then how is that "Murder"?

so when an officer shoots and kills someone wut do u think it should be called?

definition of murder:
To kill (another human) unlawfully.
To kill brutally or inhumanly.
To put an end to; destroy:

this was murder

WayneDash said:
So they planted a gun on him?  Thats Dirty!  


^^^ Not saying it isn't possible but how can you make that assumption?  

*News Flash*  Sometimes when niggas get caught for doing shit they're GUILTY!  

I know police do some foul shit but they're not ALWAYS in the wrong.

RIP to young spragga.

Only today they are saying that the police were fired at first?
Every other story Ive read there is no mention of the police being fired at. are they just tryna cover their tracks now? who knows, but this type of fockery happens everyday in jamaica we only read about it now because it was spragga son that got shot. Its sad that so many innocent have died before some light gets shed on the corruption of jamaica.

@ BOSS UP

How is the police shooting of someone who shot at them first considered "unlawful"?  Because dude was the son of a famous reggae artist?

According to Websters:

un-law-ful:
1 : not lawful : illegal
2 : not morally right or conventional

When a police shoots and kills someone who BEGINS SHOOTING FIRST---I call that a justifiable shooting!  
You telling me that if a cop makes a routine stop and some niggas decide to shoot it out because they're "maybe" riding dirty...the cops are "MURDERERS" because they return fire?

hmm this was Jamaican police anything is possible they corrupt as hell.

@ DJTallWun

I agree...the political establishment in Jamaica is notoriously corrupt and has been that way since ...well, forever!  

AHH is the first report I've heard of this incident so i'm not sure if other stories are conflicting on whether or not shots were fired on police FIRST. My comments on this story are according to ONLY the facts given in the above AHH story.

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@dbxnnet ^^ Fuck yo clothing line (respectfully)...we talking about someone's death here.

R.I.P

aye 'jojodove77' did u not read the other two definitions?

@jojo

Grant, who according to eye-witnesses was shot after obeying police commands to stop, is being mourned by his mother and countless others today. The son of famous entertainer, Spragga Benz, he was described as a conscientious young man who had done well in school.

-directly from yardflex.com, most stories have read like this.

@ Boss Up...sure did.

I just don't find anything "brutal" or "inhumane" about shooting & killing someone IF they tried to shoot and kill me first.

If somebody shoots to kill me (unprovoked) and I fire back & wind up killing them instead...i'm justified (period)...and I don't think there's a nigga alive that feels differently---Except maybe YOU.

wow so quick to defend the pigs

"The police’s Bureau of Special Investigation has been called in to probe the controversial shooting of the 17-year old son of ace deejay, Spragga Benz. Carlton Grant Jr. was allegedly shot and killed by the police late Saturday night, at the intersection of Church and Queen Streets in Downtown Kingston.

The official police report states that he and another man were seen on a bicycle and signaled to stop. On the approach of the police, one of the men (allegedly Grant) pulled a gun and fired at the police. The police fired back and the men ran but Grant was later found with gunshot wounds and a .45 semi-automatic pistol. He was taken to the Kingston Public Hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Residents are however challenging the police version of the incident, as Eyewitnesses claimed that he had both hands in the air while being approached by the police, and that he was killed in cold blood. Spragga Benz is reportedly overseas but expected to return to Jamaica this week."

http://www.dancehall.mobi/2008/08/25/police-kill-spragga-benzs-son/

Here's the definition of "Murder" from 'Wikipedia' that offers more understanding of what it truly means to "murder" somebody:

"Murder is the unlawful killing of another human person with malice aforethought, as defined in Common Law countries. Murder is generally distinguished from other forms of homicide by the elements of malice aforethought and the lack of lawful justification."

what the fuck is goin on man!

@Cabana da Don - SPRAGGA BENZ WAS WAYNE U HAVE TO PICTURE HIM WITHOUT ALL THE FACIAL HAIR FAM.

co sign BOSS UP.
YO SPRANG BENZ SON IS BRAVE IF HE SHOT AT THE POLICE I DOUBT THAT SHIT EVERYBODY KNOW JA COPS ARE KILLERS. I WAS DRIVING IN JAMAICA THIS SUMMER AND THE COPS PULLED ME OVER LIKE 3 IN THE MORNING THERE'S ONE ROAD ON THE COASTAL PART OF JA I WAS GOING FROM MONTEGO  BAY TO OCHO RIOS. THE COPS PULLED ME OVER FOR NO REASON WHAT SO EVER THEY JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. WHEN THEY PULLED ME OVER THEY HAD THESE BIG ASS LIGHTS SHINGING ON MY FACE AND THEY ORDERED ME OUT OF THE CAR AND TO COME TO THE BACK. ONE DUDE HAD A HAND GUN DRAWN AND HIS BOY HAD A GUN THE SIZE OF LIL BOW WOW. THEY TOLD ME TO TAKE OUT MY LUGGAGE AND SHIT THEY SEARCHED IT AND WHEN I TOLD THEM I'M AMERICAN THEY WHOLE TONE CHANGE THEN THEY STARTED ACTING NICE AS FUCK.

@ boss up- i swear these niggas on here work for the police

@ BOSS UP

LOL @ Pigs...

I don't categorize the whole police force by the actions of some corrupt officers...in my eyes ONLY CORRUPT OFFICERS ARE PIGS.

In my neighborhood an 8-yr old black girl was abducted, raped & murdered...the case was cold and may have been unsolved if a "DETECTIVE" (aka so-called Pig) hadn't stayed on top of it with some good ass investigating...he refused to let it go unsolved and eventually caught & convicted her "murderer" (dude confessed to the crime)...I knew that lil girl and because of that detective her family got some sort of closure.  The officers/detective who made that possible aren't pigs in my eyes.

The moral of the story is that you can use the cliched term "PIG" to sound down but when good officers are actually protecting you, stopping people from running up in your house & stopping somebody from raping & killing ya moms you'd be happy to see one of those same Officers aka "pigs" so much now would you?

Thanks for your inclusion of another version of the story and AGAIN (as stated 3X previously) ...my comments about the AHH story are only based on the facts provided by the AHH story and i'm sure other facts in will come out as the 'official' story unfolds.

@ Boss Up & jojo

Im sure this is a case of the police being the guilty party. but as we know this is Jamaica and Im sure this will get pushed aside once the media moves on.

Like i said this happens everyday down there and only becasue its Spraggas son do we get some info on it. If it were a politians son or some other high ranking official the investigation would go further. but I dont think so in this case unfortunatly.

I love the music and all but Jamaica is very dangerous..The people are so poor but they still wear the latest brand name with no food to eat at the end of the day..Plus the country itself is fucked up, the police are disrespectful...Jamaica is in very bad shape...I see them Jamaicans always on the top of the charts but what do they do in return for there own Country is the question?

@ DJTallWun

Again, I agree and my family is originally from Ocho Rios so I've heard stories from family members and also have visited on numerous occassions.  Hopefully ALL the facts will come to light in this case and justice will be served but unfortunately the powers that be don't believe in "justice for all".

@ Boss Up

lol...don't want any AHH beef considering you are the resident all-star...If you posted a comment stating "shit don't really smell bad" I swear there would be at least three follow-up comments from niggas talking about--->

"Boss Up said:

Shit don't really smell bad"


^^^  co-sign Boss Up cause my peoples ate some ice cream and they shit smelled like vanilla w/ a hint of honey.



...i'll just agree to disagree with you!

FOR EVERYBODY WHO THINKS THE COPS AREN'T CORRUPT OUT THERE 1 US DOLLAR EQUALS 78 JAMAICAN DOLLARS SO U FIGURE IT OUT.

@ jojodove77 said:
First off condolences to the family because losing a loved one/child is painful no matter what!  BUT...

Am I missing something?  The story says that police stopped the dudes and then they began shooting at police...
Spragga's son ran (with whoever else) and was later found with a gun and wounded...
WHY ARE THE POLICE WRONG IF THEY RETURNED FIRE AFTER INITIALLY BEING FIRED ON?  

According to the information given here the police were just doing their job!  If someone starts a shoot out with police officers and they return fire then how is that "Murder"?
There might be more to this story but with the information provided above the shooting seems justified...



....First off Are you some sort of cop or a member of the law because you seem to really be the advocate for their innocence even though only one side of the story was posted (the cops side of it)....News Flash!! Jamaican cops are known to kill young men from the ghetto just because they might have a an illegal gun on them...the correct procedure is to arrest these people not to take a life. I was not there so I don’t know if he was carrying a gun or not...or even if he did shoot at the officers but from my experience growing up in Jamaica it would be pretty dumb to shoot at a police patrol..in the ghetto.. at "weee" hours in the morn for no reason. That’s asking for a death sentence. I know people that know Carlton Jr "Carlie" personally and that’s not his "MO". This was a smart kid that just did great in school and had a bright future....Here is one eyewitness account of what happened...http://www.soulrebelproductions.com/cms/index.php?news=443

@HOT97 said:
I love the music and all but Jamaica is very dangerous..The people are so poor but they still wear the latest brand name with no food to eat at the end of the day..Plus the country itself is fucked up, the police are disrespectful...Jamaica is in very bad shape...I see them Jamaicans always on the top of the charts but what do they do in return for there own Country is the question?
August 28, 2008 11:22 AM



Jamaica is not as horrible as you make it seem so stop it....Yes there are people who are poor and hungry just like any other country including the US but not all parts of Jamaica are the same....Its a beautiful Island filled with hospitable people depending on where you go...its just that there are some dominant criminal elements there that make it seems as if the entire country is a shooting gallery. Its just like any state or major city in America, you will know where to go and and where not to go.. I live in South Florida and I wouldnt be caught dead chillin at 3am in certain parts of Carol City even if they were giving away free high octane gas ( gas = the new substitute for something very valuable) .....If you know where the trouble is stay away from it....STOP painting a bad picture of the entire country.

@ ianmosiah

I'm not affiliated with the police in any way, shape or form aside from coaching a youth ball team in the PAL (Police Athletic League).

You obviously haven't read my comments thoroughly because if you had you'd know that I was commenting on (as stated 3,4,5,6X now) JUST THE FACTS GIVEN IN THE AHH ARTICLE...

and in fact DID MENTION JAMAICA POLITICS (which includs law enforcement) IS KNOWN FOR BEING CORRUPT ...

If anything my view was non-partisan (or objective) in stating that the entire facts of this story could paint a different picture BUT if someone shoots @ police and wind up being fatally wounded then I don't consider it murder!

There are police who do good works and police who are corrupt or "PIGS"...I don't jump on the band-wagon thinking that ALL police are pigs or bad just because that's popular!  

And since I answered your question lemme ask you one...were you there when the youth got killed???

 I wasn't there and I doubt you were either so right now all either one of us has is whatever 'accounts' are documented and speculation.

before some of ya'll start talking you need to live out in jamaica for a little time and you will see how corrupt po po really do

 
ianmosiah said:
@HOT97 said:
I love the music and all but Jamaica is very dangerous..The people are so poor but they still wear the latest brand name with no food to eat at the end of the day..Plus the country itself is fucked up, the police are disrespectful...Jamaica is in very bad shape...I see them Jamaicans always on the top of the charts but what do they do in return for there own Country is the question?
August 28, 2008 11:22 AM



Jamaica is not as horrible as you make it seem so stop it....Yes there are people who are poor and hungry just like any other country including the US but not all parts of Jamaica are the same....Its a beautiful Island filled with hospitable people depending on where you go...its just that there are some dominant criminal elements there that make it seems as if the entire country is a shooting gallery. Its just like any state or major city in America, you will know where to go and and where not to go.. I live in South Florida and I wouldnt be caught dead chillin at 3am in certain parts of Carol City even if they were giving away free high octane gas ( gas = the new substitute for something very valuable) .....If you know where the trouble is stay away from it....STOP painting a bad picture of the entire country.

I get what your saying..But im the opposite..People aways paint such a great picture about Jamaica, and it really is not a great as you would think...Just at that AIRPORT alone its a good chance of a person getting hurt..The people are always begging, they steal your luggage, the service is horrible, streets are not paved, with no traffic signs, one can drive in any direction and risk killing themselves the Country is totally out of control..
The people can be very sexiest- You ask for help at the airport the male staff look at you like is strange to help out another man.. Point is they don't cater to other people well..Its all about My Country this, My Country that"....In my opinion Jamaica is in very bad shape..

R.I.P.    nobody wants to burry their son or daughter. they are supposed to outlive us.

@HOT 97

Listen they steal luggage everywhere.....On my flight from Canada to FL they stole my damn chain out of my luggage and left my dirty ass draws sticking out so tell me about something that only happens in Jamaica and then we can talk...I have been back and forth to Jamaica many times and they never stole my luggage.

2008 is a muthafucka ain't it?

DAM THAT SOUND JUS LIKE THE MOVIE SHOTTAS.
I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE JAMAICA IS CURRUPT.
COPS ARE CURRUPT PERIOD

RIP DAM DUDE WAS ONLY 17
DAM WHATS GOIN ON

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@ jojodove77

"I was not there so I don’t know if he was carrying a gun or not..."

Thats what I stated before so read my post...but beyond all the bickering its just the norm for "corrupt" Jamaican cops to implicate people who they think are criminals shoot them a couple times point blank and then throw them in the back of the patrol jeep/car and then take to the hospital to be pronounced dead. Its an everyday thing for them to do that in the crime ridden areas of Kingston also known as the garrisons. Most times its not the regular police that does this..there are specials units that patrol these areas and they are the ones with the "take no prisoners" mentality....not all Jamican cops are corrupt.

the hood say sthe kid didnt have a gun and had hsi hands in the air when they shot him

@ianmosiah:

Yes, I see I missed that line but what is your point in coming @ me for stating EXACTLY what you just ended your post with...."NOT ALL JAMAICAN COPS ARE CORRUPT"...

Isn't that what I was saying all along? Not all police are "pigs" or corrupt...

You saying i'm "defending" law enforcement when I make the comment but then you turn around and basically say the same thing?  Anyway mi dun wid yuh...tek whey mi sey an galang

@jojodove77

LOL i see you took some Jamaican patois classes.....at least you are not wasting your money....writing and speaking it are two different things I hope you never bite your tongue.

At least I was fair and created and argument for both sides but what got me heated was when you said.

"*News Flash*  Sometimes when niggas get caught for doing shit they're GUILTY!  

Where did that come from, your insinuating stuff?

@ianmosiah

I will disregard the slick comment and answer the question:

That statement you mentioned came from FACT...unless you believe that all black men who are arrested/detained are innocent and just being harassed??? I meant exactly what I said---->

Sometimes when niggas get caught by police it's because they actually committed a crime...not because police are just pigs out to get every black person in the community.

That comment was in response to the general consensus that everytime a black man/woman has an incident with the police there seems to be an automatic assumption that the cops are just "fucking with people" again...

I wasn't "insinuating" anything at all...I still maintain that in THIS particular case I do not know all of the true facts so I can't make any assumption...only comment on what the article has given.

@Hot 97.

 I visited Jamaica for the first time in 1998 an I have gone back every year ever since, taking along my girlfreinds with me. To me its one the morst incredible places on earth with some of the warmest people, I love it there, not one bad experience.  Though it must be stated jamaican culture is not fot the "soft" or
"week", its usually those type of people who do not like Jamaica.  It is not fair to attempt to demonize such a beautiful country and people. Jamaica has been ver influential in many ways to our global culture..  It seems as if you are bitter in some way over something.  Sure Jamaica has its problems, but so does everywhere.  Did a jamaican Man F**k ur wife or Daughter?  Stop hating on Jamaica, im no expert but i get the feeling the Island of jamaica has a very bright future.  That little tiny place is very special, in my humble opinion.  Just my 2 cents..  

I laugh when u say ...... " The people are so poor but they still wear the latest brand name with no food to eat at the end of the day", because jamaicas have a far more nutritiuos diet, and i would argue they are "better" fed  than we are here in  the States.

R.I.P  Mr.Grant

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WHAT THE BLOODCLOT?

Damn!

@jojodove77

I don’t know if you are black or white but at the end of the day it doesn’t matter but I can say that I am a proud black man. I can tell you from experience not from television or jumping on the bandwagon that cops love fucking with black people. That is their opportunity to either get an easy ticket, get browny points for arresting the most people this month which can lead to a promotion or simply just for the fuck of it. I am not a cop so I couldn’t tell you why they do it so maybe you can answer that instead of me. I am not being stereotypical I am only being real and telling you from experience.  I was pretty young when I came to this country but also very naive to think that cops are very nice people and I used to get mad at my cousins when they would get all hateful and defensive when they see a cop. but after so many years living here believe me when I say that there is some hidden/invisible rule that all cops use to pull over black people instead of white people 9/10 times. Look at the fucking penitentiaries do you think that they are packed with black people because they enjoy been there? or by coincidence? open your eyes man....whether you are black or white open your eyes and look around you. I am not the most innocent person in the world but I don’t wear big baggy jeans, nor chains that I gotta carry in a wheel barrow (not that I am against it) and I have been subjected to police harassment and been arrested for the dumbest things ever. Think about how the system is designed, majority of black men have some sort of strike against them whether its a simple misdemeanor or a serious felony which prohibits them form getting any decent jobs.....we cant get a decent nine to five but we can join that army and get fucked up with a record easily...does that make any fucking sense?

@KnowledgeKing

"I visited Jamaica for the first time in 1998 an I have gone back every year ever since, taking along my girlfreinds with me. To me its one the morst incredible places on earth with some of the warmest people, I love it there, not one bad experience.  Though it must be stated jamaican culture is not fot the "soft" or
"week", its usually those type of people who do not like Jamaica.  It is not fair to attempt to demonize such a beautiful country and people. Jamaica has been ver influential in many ways to our global culture..  It seems as if you are bitter in some way over something.  Sure Jamaica has its problems, but so does everywhere.  Did a jamaican Man F**k ur wife or Daughter?  Stop hating on Jamaica, im no expert but i get the feeling the Island of jamaica has a very bright future.  That little tiny place is very special, in my humble opinion.  Just my 2 cents..  

I laugh when u say ...... " The people are so poor but they still wear the latest brand name with no food to eat at the end of the day", because jamaicas have a far more nutritiuos diet, and i would argue they are "better" fed  than we are here in  the States.

R.I.P  Mr.Grant"


I co-sign that 100%

@IANMOSIAH

what kind of things have you been arrested for?

its ironic that it was a scene in 'Shottas' with the police killin that dude on a bike

 
KnowledgeKing said:
@Hot 97.

I visited Jamaica for the first time in 1998 an I have gone back every year ever since, taking along my girlfreinds with me. To me its one the morst incredible places on earth with some of the warmest people, I love it there, not one bad experience.  Though it must be stated jamaican culture is not fot the "soft" or
"week", its usually those type of people who do not like Jamaica.  It is not fair to attempt to demonize such a beautiful country and people. Jamaica has been ver influential in many ways to our global culture..  It seems as if you are bitter in some way over something.  Sure Jamaica has its problems, but so does everywhere.  Did a jamaican Man F**k ur wife or Daughter?  Stop hating on Jamaica, im no expert but i get the feeling the Island of jamaica has a very bright future.  That little tiny place is very special, in my humble opinion.  Just my 2 cents..  

I laugh when u say ...... " The people are so poor but they still wear the latest brand name with no food to eat at the end of the day", because jamaicas have a far more nutritiuos diet, and i would argue they are "better" fed  than we are here in  the States.

R.I.P  Mr.Grant
August 28, 2008 3:52 PM

Like you said..you visited Jamaica--Try living there for 5 years..TOURISTS WILL ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD EXPERIENCE,

R.I.P....

Well after hearing terrifying stories from my friends who have family from Jamaica....I believe that the police have something to do with it....and that this whole story was fabricated upon....If you rich and live in the islands the poor and other people will hold you for ransom.....

Police down in Jamaica even use machetes to hack at humans whether they are adults or children....My friends cousin had his head sliced open with a machete from some asshole who was attacking a group of kids....of course my friends cousin is no longer alive......google the stats of crime in Jamaica for yourself...

messed up, rumours had this 1st yea. Still very bad man stay up Spragga keep safe and dont do nuthin stupid. Police in Jamaica are going to be pardoned so its up to the people to end there carrers. Thats all. RIP.

check out my nigga Jae-G music
www.myspace.com/bdotc

damn..niggas on here arguing...just pay respects and move on...RIP

Father KILLED!  Son Killed!!  Now, a Second Son KiLLED!!! They must know who is targeting them.  They must be involved in some sh*t.  If he have any more SONS, I suggests that get the F*ck out of that country.  Daughters too.  They can also be murdered. Killers do not care.

RIP

J-DUBB THA YOUNG HECTIC said:
its ironic that it was a scene in 'Shottas' with the police killin that dude on a bike
August 28, 2008 5:54 PM

I know right.And the crazy thing is that wayne's lil brother died.In some for or another a person his age died.