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Juelz Shoots Back At Cam'ron; Bad Business To Blame For Split

Monday, September 15, 2008 10:00 AM | 119 comments
By Tai Saint Louis

Weeks after it was first announced that Juelz Santana has been released from his obligations to Diplomats Records, the rapper is speaking candidly about the details behind the split.

 

During an interview with AllHipHop.com, Juelz revisited the situation, revealing that the details were not as Diplomat Records’ CEO Cam’ron had previously made them seem.

 

“I vowed not to say nothing bad about Cam ‘cause I felt like he did a lot for me,” Juelz Santana told AllHipHop.com. “But as far as him selling me, that s**t just sound stupid. I’m the biggest artist in New York City right now, ain’t came out with an album in three years. He would never sell me. It was bad business, and I had to get out my contract. It’s so crazy to me that he’s still trying to make himself look good.

 

“It’s obvious what’s going on,” he continued. “You see everybody that’s a part of the movement still together but him.”

 

Juelz Santana said that he respected Cam’ron’s position as head of The Diplomats, but reiterated that bad business was the reason for his departure from the label, which distributed Juelz’ projects via Def Jam.

 

“It’s a line between loyalty and stupidity man, bottom line. And it’s gotta be drawn sometimes,” Santana told AllHipHop.com. “So as far as the fans, I hope they understand, that’s the realest quote I could give them.”

 

The statements come as Juelz Santana prepares to launch his first efforts as the latest rapper-turned-label head, introducing his stable of protégés via the release of Skull Gang Takeover: The New Movement To Move Wit.

 

The project will be available for free download starting next Friday (Sep 19).

 

The project will serve as an introduction to Skull Gang’s core members: rappers Richmond Rabb, John Depp, Unkasa and R&B singer/songwriter Starr.

 

Takeover also heavily features Juelz, who appears on every track on the project.

 

“I felt like the game needed something new just as much as they needed me right now, so I decided to give them both at the same time,” he explained. “I’m excited right now. Just as much as I’m excited for myself, I’m excited for my artists. I didn’t just put together artists that was around me. My team is really built based on talent. And, you know, I feel like we can only win. The music is strong, we just gotta execute the right way.”

 

Juelz is currently refocusing on his solo career as well.

 

The Skull Gang Takeover mixtape will be almost immediately followed by the Harlemite’s solo Regan Era mixtape, due out before the end of the year.

 

Both releases are paving the way for Juelz’ highly anticipated third studio album Born to Lose, Bred to Win, which he says will hit stores at the end of the year.

 

And although there’s some tension between the remaining Diplomats and Cam’ron, Juelz Santana remained loyal to an absentee Cam’ron.

 

“Me, Jim and Zeek is in the studio damn near every day,” says Juelz. “We wouldn’t be disrespectful and try to put out a Dip Set album without Cam. We just gon’ wait til he comes back. Nobody can find the third party though. What if your boss decides to say ‘I quit,’ you not gon’ work no more?”


Comments

 

scarfacebaby said:

Why the fuck can't I join the forum??? All my friends can do that!!

Im GETTING REALLY PISS OFF
September 15, 2008 10:14 AM
 

madfaceinvasion said:

Cam is nice, and the Dip Set wouldn't be the same w/o him.
September 15, 2008 10:15 AM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

I’m the biggest artist in New York City right now, ain’t came out with an album in three years.


He jokin right??
September 15, 2008 10:17 AM
 

Rideout163 said:

Juelz BEen HOlding down the Dips for about 7 years its time for him to do hes own thing and get Label HEad Money.

Check out the myspace.com/Rideout163

TEll me what you think of the tracks........ R/o "RIde with us Or Hide From Us"
September 15, 2008 10:17 AM
 

Eight Mile Road Music News » Juelz Shoots Back At Cam’ron; Bad Business To Blame For Split said:

September 15, 2008 10:18 AM
 

Deeper Than Rap said:

September 15, 2008 10:20 AM
 

DABIZ said:

Angel Luv on stage with her ass out her Mini Skirt here

http://www.atlnightspots.com/2008/09/15/a-different-side-of-angel-lola-luv/



September 15, 2008 10:21 AM
 

rhymesbusta said:

THE IC IS BACK wooow I have been away for about 1 year now.. You remember me?
September 15, 2008 10:22 AM
 

htown84z said:

REAL TALK, JUELZ JUST NEEDS TO KEEP ON PUSHING MAN! FUCK ANOTHA NIGGA HOMIE...U GOTTA PUT FOOD IN UR BELLY TOO AT THE END OF THE DAY SO I WOULDNT BE WAITEN ON CAM. I DEFIENTELY TIP MY HAT TO U FOR KEEPING YA GRIND UP THOUGH. I JUSS REALLY FEEL THOUGH IF HIM AND LIL WAYNE WOULD HAVE DROPED THAT "CAINT FEEL MY FACE" AROUND THE TIME THEY SAID IT WAS SUPPOSE TO COME OUT, DUDE WOULDA EASILY BEEN ON THE VMAS THIS YEAR HIS DAMN SELF! I LIKE THE DIPS AND ALL BUT I CAINT SEE THEM DOIN FOR ELZ LIKE CASH MONEY DOIN FOR WEEZY, PERIOD!
September 15, 2008 10:24 AM
 

ROCSTAR MGNT said:

STREET ALBUM OF THE YEAR

TANK LAW THE LAW..COMING SOON..

WWW.MYSPACE.COM/TANKLAW
September 15, 2008 10:25 AM
 

ROCSTAR MGNT said:

STREET ALBUM OF THE YEAR

TANK LAW THE LAW...COMING SOON..

WWW.MYSPACE.COM/TANKLAW
September 15, 2008 10:26 AM
 

duvalrealnigga904 said:

man where is killa season pt 2? flea where u at?
September 15, 2008 10:27 AM
 

CityMaine said:

HOTTEST ARTIST IN NYC LMAO!!!! I USE TO FUCK WITH L'Z.. BUT NAH NIGGA YOU DILLUSIONAL RIGHT NOW.. TOO MUCH BUD...
September 15, 2008 10:27 AM
 

htown84z said:

AS FAR AS HIM BEING THE HOTTEST THING IN NYC....ESPECIALLY SEEING HE AINT DROPED IN 3 YEARS.........................(SCRATCHES HEAD WITH BILL COSBY
LOOK ON
FACE)............................................................THINK U WENT A LIL AHEAD OF YA SELF WIT THAT ONE! ITS GOOD U GOT CONFIDENCE THOUGH....JUSS DONT BE IGNINT!
September 15, 2008 10:29 AM
 

ROCSTAR MGNT said:

UNKASA ITZ YOUR TIME!!!

MYSPACE.COM/TANKLAW
September 15, 2008 10:30 AM
 

getmoney2 said:

Juelz Santana Rips Cam a new one..

A MUST SEE...
http://www.myghettotv.com
September 15, 2008 10:31 AM
 

getmoney2 said:

@Savy_Da_Boss

Nigga, why you aint repin your http://www.cantfademe.com page ? you was nice on there...
September 15, 2008 10:33 AM
 

Yamoley Almighty said:

LMAO!!!!!! This motherfucker must be on the same drugs as Lil' Whoopi, don't nobody give a shit about Juelz out here in NY....I doubt niggas in Harlem give a shit about him, he's not even on the radar as far as hottest NYC artists goes. Ol' frail ass coward ass nigga. Fuck a Juelz Santana...Aye!
September 15, 2008 10:34 AM
 

HELLRAISER said:

lol @ him saying hes the hottest out right now. come on now you really dont want to go there............................
September 15, 2008 10:36 AM
 

tha clear said:

Dip shit bowel movement is over
September 15, 2008 10:38 AM
 

TROOPER74 said:

"the biggest artist in NEW YORK"

ummmm, i guess he's talking about New York, Indiana or  some other made up city. hahahahaha
September 15, 2008 10:42 AM
 

Fulano said:

Cam is the nicest member of Dipset. However,  it really sounds like he's a cry baby when it comes to people out shining him. He's been on a huge slump.  SDE is one of my favorite albums of all times.  Its funny how this whole thing came after Jim Jones blew up.  I hope they can put their differences aside and start getting back to the money.  
September 15, 2008 10:44 AM
 

Mic Terror said:

Am I hearing this correctly? Cam dipped on Dipset and no one knows where he is. Juelz is right to do his own thing. He been a loyal soldier. I don't know if Cam had some sort of nervous breakdown but you can't run a business and decide not to show up to work. Although Them Dipset cats be talking slick sometimes I've always liked them, and I hope they can work things out, but at the end of the day it's business and even though Cam Put all them on, He got paid from all of them too, so they don't owe him nothing
September 15, 2008 10:44 AM
 

odeisel said:

he should have left 3 years ago
September 15, 2008 10:50 AM
 

qquuaaddeeaann3 said:

hes nicest in dipset but he need to put out some tracks to capture hottest in ny.yo that waht you reppin was poppin tho.
September 15, 2008 10:51 AM
 

n.e.n.o.s. said:

50 shut down that whole operation.

shouts out to juelz for stepping up and being the boss of his own movement.

September 15, 2008 10:55 AM
 

Juelz Shoots Back At Cam’ron; Bad Business To Blame For Split | Google Rap said:

September 15, 2008 10:57 AM
 

Young Caine said:

All he had to do was promote his upcoming project and his group. I don't see no reason for bringin Cam's name up in dis joint. Especially after he already addressed the Def Jam situation anyway. In my eyes, him and Jimmy still some ungrateful, disloyal mufuckas...
September 15, 2008 10:58 AM
 

KOSGOD said:

Cam is chillin with baggy wife-beat
September 15, 2008 11:02 AM
 

SuperGangster said:

lol juelz santana is a bitch,, you know camron owned him,, camron sold juelz because he needed money.. camron is like 50 he dont gives a fuck..

camron is the don capo. nobody fucks with him, money cash everything around me .
September 15, 2008 11:10 AM
 

MAINE MAN said:

No comment!!!
September 15, 2008 11:12 AM
 

pimpharder said:

Juelz Santana is fuckin wack my nigga, he dont deserve to make music.....
September 15, 2008 11:14 AM
 

Curtis Jackson is Hulk Hogan.Simply Put. « said:

September 15, 2008 11:18 AM
 

Redd-i said:

I'ma look at it as if I was the CEO or like I was the Cheif of staff ya digg and you got these average soldiers trying to play my position.  Then on top of that the fucking wit the enemy on some dick riding shit just to get they face in the picture.  I would be frustrated to and feel like if my niggas ain't riding wit me than I'ma fall back and focus on another form of getting money myself, cause the inspiration is gone feel me, the mojo just ain't there cause niggas don't wanna play they position, then they expect me to sing off on some bullshit project that's got my emblem all on it but is envolving every one but me.  Yo Point blank niggas need to just learn how to play therre position.  It's obvious when Juelz say some crazy shit like he the hottest in NY.  That right therre shows his head is too big.  And in Cams head is already too big and the Jimmy tight shirt wearing ass head get to inflating then ofcourse this the shit you get a s a result.  Funny why they can't see that's the shit that's happening to them.  Fuck it.  Lifes a bitch right, we'll all spend a life time trying to figure this bitch out.Just felt I should say that, now I'm a go fuck wit my own bitch ya digg.
September 15, 2008 11:25 AM
 

Redd-i said:

I'ma look at it as if I was the CEO or like I was the Cheif of staff ya digg and you got these average soldiers trying to play my position.  Then on top of that the fucking wit the enemy on some dick riding shit just to get they face in the picture.  I would be frustrated to and feel like if my niggas ain't riding wit me than I'ma fall back and focus on another form of getting money myself, cause the inspiration is gone feel me, the mojo just ain't there cause niggas don't wanna play they position, then they expect me to sing off on some bullshit project that's got my emblem all on it but is envolving every one but me.  Yo Point blank niggas need to just learn how to play therre position.  It's obvious when Juelz say some crazy shit like he the hottest in NY.  That right therre shows his head is too big.  And in Cams head is already too big and the Jimmy tight shirt wearing ass head get to inflating then ofcourse this the shit you get a s a result.  Funny why they can't see that's the shit that's happening to them.  Fuck it.  Lifes a bitch right, we'll all spend a life time trying to figure this bitch out.Just felt I should say that, now I'm a go fuck wit my own bitch ya digg.
September 15, 2008 11:25 AM
 

SuperGangster said:

lol juelz santana is a bitch,, you know camron owned him,, camron sold juelz because he needed money.. camron is like 50 he dont gives a fuck..

camron is the don capo. nobody fucks with him, money cash everything around me .
September 15, 2008 11:30 AM
 

v4vendetta said:

I would say Busta Rhymes is bigger than him in Now Y. C'mon yall, help me out? Who else? Oh yeah, a guy by the name of Curtis Jackson. Add on guys... Actually, Maino is gettin more spins than him in NYC. LOL. Jada Kiss. D-Block. Hell Rell. Let's give Juelz a wake up call.


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September 15, 2008 11:32 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

CAM KICK THEM DISLOYAL NIGGAZ OUT YA CIRCLE!!!

ITS ALMOST KILLA SEASON!!!

CRIME PAYS!!! DROP THAT NEW SHIT

CAM RUN THIS RAP SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 15, 2008 11:35 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

CAM CUSSED JUELZ THA FUCK OUT...ON SPORTS DRUGS ENTERTAINMENT!!!! HOTTEST VERSE JUELZ EVER SPIT HIS ENTIRE CAREER
September 15, 2008 11:38 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

CAM CUSSED JUELZ THA FUCK OUT...ON SPORTS DRUGS ENTERTAINMENT!!!! HOTTEST VERSE JUELZ EVER SPIT HIS ENTIRE CAREER
September 15, 2008 11:38 AM
 

baltimoreson3000 said:

I don't fuck with Cam or JJ...so personally I think it's cool if Juelz do his own thing or whatever...but HOTTEST IN NY????...nigga ain't the hottest in NY when he got an album out so u know u aint the hottest when u aint put out shit in 3 yrs...thats what kills me about rappers....when u are ur own biggest fan like that...u dont really realize whats real..juelz will always be an avg artist at best...but still better than the 2 previously mentioned suckers.
September 15, 2008 11:42 AM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

DAM WHA HAPPENED TO THEM
OH BOY

www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic
O-A-K BEAT K-C FOR MAC D-R-E TIP
 
September 15, 2008 11:47 AM
 

BKsDrDRE said:

Juelz was ONCE considered one of the best rappers in NYC but like he said, no album in 3 years?? Your lucky if these kids know who you are, and thats a shame cause Juelz was sick wit it.
September 15, 2008 11:47 AM
 

NYCityREP said:

LMFAO, "I’m the biggest artist in New York City right now, ain’t came out with an album in three years". Did the zip code change? Is it still 212, b/c I didn't know Juelz was the biggest artist in my city.

I don't know what happened with Dip Set, but NYC is just fine w/o them. Hov & Jada dropping albums in the 4th quarter/LOX gearing up for '09 - NY don't need the Dip Set.
September 15, 2008 11:49 AM
 

PZdaPrinceI said:

Juelz will be having 50 Cent features before too long.  
September 15, 2008 11:50 AM
 

fourtun8 said:

Get the community working, damn!
September 15, 2008 11:50 AM
 

Rdot929 said:

what ever happen to Santana and Wayne's project? i cant feel my face. that was suppose to be Fiyah. i heard a few tracks
September 15, 2008 11:57 AM
 

TheBlackNostradamus said:

Camron has an inflated ego. He was going to bring down his Dipset brothers. He is upset members like Jim Jones and Juelz have talked with artists like 50 cent. Money can and needs to be made by these artists. We are in the "digital age". People don't buy as many CD's as they use to. It's downloads through Zune, Apple, Napster and others.Camron is slow. CEO(s) have to think fast.
September 15, 2008 12:05 PM
 

H8ME? said:

AY AY !!
Killa Cam just pimped them like every other C.E.O. would..
Welcome to the strippin business ..I mean Muisc Business.....

AY AY !
September 15, 2008 12:08 PM
 

E DUBB said:

I actually like Juelz flow, the nigga can spit. As far as him being the biggest artist in NYC...i dont know bout dat one. It's fucked up that Cam didnt take advantage of his buzz when he dropped his last album and that mixtape he did with Lil Wayne. 3 years without droppin' a album....hope he can bounce back.
September 15, 2008 12:28 PM
 

Bertofab said:

The way to bring Cam from the land of the lost is to do a Diplomats album without him. He'd get paid from it, but it'd also light a fire under his ass.

I actually think he's just living next door to some serial killers so he thinks he gotta stay shut lol.
September 15, 2008 12:37 PM
 

Smashit said:

He said the hottest what and where????

Who lied to this kid & told him he was hot in any location?  He got sold off by the same man that started him... it is what it is!
September 15, 2008 12:38 PM
 

Dank1 said:

He better change that album title that sounds way to much like scrappy's last project
September 15, 2008 12:41 PM
 

Supreme Clyantel said:

That nigga needs to kill himself for sayin that blasphemous shit.
September 15, 2008 12:42 PM
 

SERIOUS | This Magazine Is Not A Game! » Blog Archive » Juelz Santana Responds to Cam’ron’s Allegations said:

September 15, 2008 12:48 PM
 

snitchkilla said:

Its funny how Juelz and Jimmy is the only one talkin. That means that they te only ones trippin on that shit. It kills me how an artist is brought out and given exposure and money, and then they feel like they suppose to be at the same level as the person who put them on. Cam was popular before Dipset. Without them he still woulda been killa. Look at it from Cam position. He put them niggas on. He made them famous. He got them money. He put them in a position to make it for theirselves. Why they mad? You don't see Cam disses them or sending subliminals at them. They know damn well they don't want it with Cam anyway, not on that level. Killa damn near sonned Jay and 50. No way a Santana or Jimmy gonna be able to deal with him.
This goes to show you what can happen when you disloyal. Cam is proving that he don't need these niggas, they needed him. Everyone checking for Cam, ain't nobody checkin for Juelz, Jimmy or Freeky. Everybody think they Jordan on the bulls, until Jordan retires and they don't ever make it back to the championship. Juelz, you is scottie pippen. You nice, and you enhance killa's game. But you can't carry no team. And one on one killa will murder you. Play your position.
September 15, 2008 12:54 PM
 

gimisumo said:

Juelz aint really been hot since his first album. he will be another victim of trying to put out his garbage azz friends and they gon drag his azz down to the land of the lost and dropped from def jam.    The Beginning Of The End.
September 15, 2008 12:56 PM
 

gorgan said:

i don't think Juelz is wack by any stretch of the imagination , but if he's the biggest rapper in N.Y it shows how far the birthplace of HipHop has fallen off in recent times
September 15, 2008 12:56 PM
 

Big K said:

i just find it funny that after how dipshit claimed to kill the roc and how jay was disloyal that it is now  happening to them. they went from being visible garbage to just garbage. plus i always felt state property was better then dipshit. all dipshit members rap the same style.
September 15, 2008 1:00 PM
 

Exec-Producer said:

"I’m the biggest artist in New York City right now, ain’t came out with an album in three years."  

***Does anybody but me realize that that sentence didn't make a BIT of sense???  How you gonna be the biggest artist with nothing out to SHOW that you're the biggest artist???  Must be some "yes men" in his camp tellin him that bullish to keep that head gas'd up.***
September 15, 2008 1:00 PM
 

Kappagem said:

lmao @ him saying he's the hottest in NY...that's just hella funny...

I actually like Juelz....dude was hot...

But he's not IT right now...

Wild...
September 15, 2008 1:02 PM
 

SEVERE SWAGGA said:

THIS NIGGA AINT DA BIGGEST ARTIST IN N.Y NOW OR NEVA SHIT IM IN N.Y ...DA DIPS IZ OVA...
September 15, 2008 1:02 PM
 

jamaican_pimp said:

wow juelz wildin, but i guess that's what everyone does now to get publicity.  noone can just release music and let it speak for itself anymore.  they all got to shit out they mouth to get some attention first.  
September 15, 2008 1:03 PM
 

BHZ VET said:

wut made them nigga split was when they didn't have Cam back when he went at 50
September 15, 2008 1:03 PM
 

Kappagem said:

I was looking forward to that Can't Feel My Face Album too Rdot...

I like Juelz and Weezy on tracks together...


But forget all this...

When's COMMON's New album coming out?

COMMON>>>>>>>>Camron
COMMON>>>>>>>>Dipset
COMMON>>>>>>>>any of Saluate's fav rappers except Jay:)
September 15, 2008 1:06 PM
 

tippydickumdown said:

dipset is like shaq-living on a rep.it's a wrap,for a few years anyway.
September 15, 2008 1:15 PM
 

Quiseebaby said:

@ snitchkilla  u make so good points. U know I think Juelz nice and he a decent artist, but under no circumstances should niggas ever say nothing bad or even remotely close about a nigga who put them on. I dont care if Cam said "juelz is my flunkie and I sold him for a bag of chips and a faygo" Juelz should just take it and be like Im not gone even respond to that. He can think like "man fuck that nigga!", but he shouldnt say it. I think ima different type of nigga. I know where Im from, I know where Ive been and I dont where I could be if I didnt get help from certain people in my life and none of them put me on millions. I would never say nothing bad about certain people in my life even if they said something because they made me better and better my situation when I couldnt have did it myself. So even if I got to a point where I was doing better then them, I would look out even if that person said foul shit because im just that type. Im a geniune loyal nigga. Jimmy and Santana should NEVER EVER say nothing bad about Cam. Dips aint like Hov and Dame. That was understandable because they did that together. They came up as 1! Cam was good and put them on. He reached for them. So its more like Kanye saying something bad about Dame, or Beans about Jay....even T pain about Akon because Akon got him on. So even though right now he more popular he should never say nothing about Akon no matter what...


Sorry for all that, but I cant stand unloyal type shit
September 15, 2008 1:18 PM
 

AshY-LarrY said:

fuck juelz - fuck jim

without cam these fools would styll be standing in front of a bodega in harlem!

killaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
September 15, 2008 1:26 PM
 

n.e.n.o.s. said:

so game should never sat anything about 50cent
or what about buck?

yall niggas kill me.
September 15, 2008 1:38 PM
 

n.e.n.o.s. said:

when it was 50 vs game niggas had a different perspective.

or 50 vs buck.
September 15, 2008 1:42 PM
 

KillaPlies said:

Dudes it just kills me for all you to hate the King Cam and side with Juelz, the one's that did anyway. If you motherfuckers would just realize the loyalty issue was what fucked them, it all started going south for them lil kids Juelz and Jim when they went and performed with the "enemy" 50, that ho. He can't even rhyme but that's another story. They always say how loyal they are to Cam, well if someone would broadcast how they ran with a known enemy that would help show the fakeness they portray. Cam even said on that interview that Jim has more money than Lloyd Banks, so obviously he was sticking up for his man, and then Jim starts hating on Cam and performs with 50? WTF IS THAT. He clearly said Jim was the man to 50 and then Jim feels he's getting dissed? Cam is a major player in the game and comes up with one liners that none can match, We celebrities with guns, shooting stars! Run a train on your girl that derails you! Mothers still getting high shes so damn gifted, it's like she's got no legs though, she cant kick it. You don't need them betraying bitches Cam, you'll get a no army.
September 15, 2008 1:50 PM
 

ZUBU said:

If Cam was not paying niggas their share I could understand them being salty at Cam, but if this is just ego shit they should have given Cam a pass because he did bring everybody into this money. I believe in loyalty and respect, but there is a fine line between being loyal and being fucked over. As some others have said everybody can't be Mike Jordan somebody gotta be Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, Steve Kerr, John Paxson, etc. That is one area we need to improve on as a culture, we need to unite, play our roles and benefit collectively and ultimately individually.
September 15, 2008 1:52 PM
 

DC-King said:

The nigga Juelz nice but as far as NY goes, i'm waitin on that Fab, Kiss, and Maino album before I think about his....
September 15, 2008 1:57 PM
 

International said:

co-sign...Redd-I, snitchkilla an Queesybaby...

Cam put them niggaz on, he was already a star before them niggaz, he already had 2 albums that had gone gold, he signed to the Roc as a solo act an then he got the dips a deal an then he got juelz a solo deal too, jimmy wasnt even signed...them niggaz is unbelievable, he the one that made the roc/dame signed the dips as an act...this is the same nigga that Big wanted to sign when he was alive, them niggaz like Juelz an shyt prolly was playin wit yoyo's an shyt, niggaz cant be serious....

I'm only bumpin Killa Cam's shyt, Max B an Hell rell, fuck any other of them niggaz.
September 15, 2008 2:05 PM
 

stylz682 said:

 
Quiseebaby said:
@ snitchkilla  u make so good points. U know I think Juelz nice and he a decent artist, but under no circumstances should niggas ever say nothing bad or even remotely close about a nigga who put them on. I dont care if Cam said "juelz is my flunkie and I sold him for a bag of chips and a faygo" Juelz should just take it and be like Im not gone even respond to that. He can think like "man fuck that nigga!", but he shouldnt say it. I think ima different type of nigga. I know where Im from, I know where Ive been and I dont where I could be if I didnt get help from certain people in my life and none of them put me on millions. I would never say nothing bad about certain people in my life even if they said something because they made me better and better my situation when I couldnt have did it myself. So even if I got to a point where I was doing better then them, I would look out even if that person said foul shit because im just that type. Im a geniune loyal nigga. Jimmy and Santana should NEVER EVER say nothing bad about Cam. Dips aint like Hov and Dame. That was understandable because they did that together. They came up as 1! Cam was good and put them on. He reached for them. So its more like Kanye saying something bad about Dame, or Beans about Jay....even T pain about Akon because Akon got him on. So even though right now he more popular he should never say nothing about Akon no matter what...

damn my nigga..very articulate and accurate..i feel you 100 percent!!
September 15, 2008 2:13 PM
 

KillaPlies said:

man there are a lot of smart dudes on here, been seeing a lot of hate on Cam on these other sites lately, at least today we got some wisdom.
September 15, 2008 2:16 PM
 

acemoney009 said:

"I’m the biggest artist in New York City right now,"...NEGRO PLEASE!
September 15, 2008 2:25 PM
 

thaillest30 said:

juelz need to go ahead with that bullshit "New yorks hottest rapper " nigga please good luck look what happened to jimmy byrdgang selling alot of records right, not!!!! Cam built that house let that man speak and do his thing. Besides didn't juelz get robbed or something.
September 15, 2008 2:29 PM
 

DruMANATI said:

he wasnt the hottest artist in nyc even when he was poppin.
September 15, 2008 2:30 PM
 

Juelz Santana speaks out about Camron. Says Cam sounds stupid saying he sold him | Smart Sexy Rich & Crazy!......SSRAC.com said:

September 15, 2008 2:51 PM
 

The Truth Is Still Here said:

if Cam is so called " fuckin up the biz " how come we dont hear no shit like that outta Hell Rell , 40 Cal & JR Writer ???

Jones just went hollywood and took Santana with him..brainwashed him.if you will.

like someone else said....everyone wanna be Jordan

PS: Really.....UnKasa....Unkasa is in SKullgang ???? He like the Gus Frerotte of Harlem. He been on every team and let go after a couple stints.  Skullgang will follow in the steps of Byrdgang...and flop
September 15, 2008 3:05 PM
 

The Truth Is Still Here said:

if Cam is so called " fuckin up the biz " how come we dont hear no shit like that outta Hell Rell , 40 Cal & JR Writer ???

Jones just went hollywood and took Santana with him..brainwashed him.if you will.

like someone else said....everyone wanna be Jordan

PS: Really.....UnKasa....Unkasa is in SKullgang ???? He like the Gus Frerotte of Harlem. He been on every team and let go after a couple stints.  Skullgang will follow in the steps of Byrdgang...and flop
September 15, 2008 3:06 PM
 

The Truth Is Still Here said:

if Cam is so called " fuckin up the biz " how come we dont hear no shit like that outta Hell Rell , 40 Cal & JR Writer ???

Jones just went hollywood and took Santana with him..brainwashed him.if you will.

like someone else said....everyone wanna be Jordan

PS: Really.....UnKasa....Unkasa is in SKullgang ???? He like the Gus Frerotte of Harlem. He been on every team and let go after a couple stints.  Skullgang will follow in the steps of Byrdgang...and flop
September 15, 2008 3:06 PM
 

Yung Sosa said:

Juelz was buggin...the hottest in NYC? But on the real, I give him credit..Camron been playin him for 3 years, blockin colabos with other artists..Camron damn near ruined Juelz career and Juelz still aint really talkin slick about homeboy....Juelz still showed love and acknowledge that Cam put him on...yall can call juelz what you want, but at the end of the day, the homie needs to eat!  Camron was nice back in the day when we messed with mase, Big L and Harlem World and he destroyed that track (four horse man) with pun and cannibus off that first Klue joint...but lets face it..Cam been wak ever since he got him computer puting ya dig? He messed up with Roc-a-fella...whichever one of yall said he almost ate Jay is an idiot, because his joint was so weak Jay aint even have to make a comeback record...I would say he ate 50 cent, but that dont mean nothing, cause 50 been wak for  like 7 years now...Cam couldnt stand the fact of other niggas on his label outshining him...he probably sharing a motel 6 with that nigga Dame Dash cuz nobody heard from hom either...Cam was makin no money...his only asset was Juelz..he had to make a mil or two..
September 15, 2008 3:11 PM
 

Yung Sosa said:

Juelz was buggin...the hottest in NYC? But on the real, I give him credit..Camron been playin him for 3 years, blockin colabos with other artists..Camron damn near ruined Juelz career and Juelz still aint really talkin slick about homeboy....Juelz still showed love and acknowledge that Cam put him on...yall can call juelz what you want, but at the end of the day, the homie needs to eat!  Camron was nice back in the day when we messed with mase, Big L and Harlem World and he destroyed that track (four horse man) with pun and cannibus off that first Klue joint...but lets face it..Cam been wak ever since he got him computer puting ya dig? He messed up with Roc-a-fella...whichever one of yall said he almost ate Jay is an idiot, because his joint was so weak Jay aint even have to make a comeback record...I would say he ate 50 cent, but that dont mean nothing, cause 50 been wak for  like 7 years now...Cam couldnt stand the fact of other niggas on his label outshining him...he probably sharing a motel 6 with that nigga Dame Dash cuz nobody heard from hom either...Cam was makin no money...his only asset was Juelz..he had to make a mil or two..
September 15, 2008 3:11 PM
 

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September 15, 2008 3:32 PM
 

J-Boogie The Cancer said:

IDK about all that hottest in NYC shit, I still believe that title still belongs to Hova(thats right i said it). These disloyal muthafuckas. Hov said it best u will see what happens when ur friends don't need u no more.
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trucat said:

Biggest in N.Y.?????!!!!!! Santana you ever heard of a little owe MC name Jay-Z!!! Or 50 cent, like him or not he's "HUGE" compared to Santana! Or Busta, Shall I go on! Dame ego go to so many rappers heads! I always liked the dude his spit game is nice and he is a really good MC!

You find out who your true friends in this industry when they dont need you anymore!! Cam gave yall "LIFE" Cam blew breath in your lungs! You ride with him no matter what! You can quiclu forget where you came from or how you got there when you have money and fame!

Cam's been doing his thing for "Years" He was at Big's crib getting his first deal, he was in this game when Big and Pac where running the game. Before Jay's the superstar-before Cash Money and Lil Wayne- Before TI-Before DMX.

They can not be a Dip-Set with out Cam! Just like there cant be a Roc-a-Fella without Jay or a Aftermath without Dre.

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September 15, 2008 4:00 PM
 

bknewstash said:

Biggest artist in NY? lmao. Im upset that he said that.jim jones is bigger than him and he 's whacc.Juelz isnt even in a NY top 5 list anywhere on earth.
September 15, 2008 4:02 PM
 

Early B said:

I don't think he's the best but he got skills though. He far from wack. I think he kept it funky with Cam in this statement. Thats some real shit. Personally they get over it and Cam gets with Dipset again.

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September 15, 2008 4:09 PM
 

snitchkilla said:

Juelz and Jimmy gonna keep poppin shit, and killa gonna go in on em. They should just focus on makin good music and hot songs and leave that Cam situation alone. I don't care what happened, them niggas jumpin on stage with 50 was a subliminal to Cam. Jimmy going on BET with 50 was a Cam taunt. Killa still responded better than I would have, cause I woulda roasted them niggas unmercifully. But Cam ain't even speak on em. He just lettin them do them. Really though, I want them to keep baitin Cam so he can go straight gutta on em, then we gonna get that S.D.E. flow back.
September 15, 2008 4:36 PM
 

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September 15, 2008 4:55 PM
 

snitchkilla said:

Young Sosa is a moron if he think Jay ain't respond to Cam. He made at least three songs directed at Cam. That JayZ "everday I'm hustlin" shit was garbage compared to cam's "It's going down" response. I understand that Jay got a lot of dick riders cause he Jay, but the art of rap is what it is. You can't out money a nigga when you battlin'. Its about who come up with the funniest and most embarrassing punch lines, and ain't too many niggas funnier than Killa. Cam's a smart dude. He thinks before he makes moves unlike a lot of rappers.
I don't know killa's finacial situation, but i'm pretty sure he aint broke. He chillin, waitin for the lawsuit Jimmy got on him for the use of the Diplomats' branding to be resolved. It's funny how internet niggas always callin somebody broke. Put your bank statement up and we'll see who's broke.
September 15, 2008 4:56 PM
 

J-DUBB THA YOUNG HECTIC said:

he is the best outta all them, i hope he does well.
Cam probably is done with rapping, he fell off after SDE
September 15, 2008 5:03 PM
 

YOWTF said:

The biggest what????In New york???
Huh??
Thats it!! The nigga go full retarded!
September 15, 2008 5:26 PM
 

snitchkilla said:

@ n.e.n.o.s.
What makes the Game situation different is : 1) game was signed to Dr. Dre and you never heard game diss dr. dre. 2) 50 was fllunkin them. He was going to radio and dissin game. 3) Fifty is a control hoe. He ain't never want his gunit artist to shine. He always makin sure the public knows who wrote what part of the song and that he gave him hooks. Like, so what. Anybody that ever wrote ryhmes with they mans and them know ya'll feed off each other and they might have a hotter hook on this song and you might come up with one for another. You ain't hear dr. dre or eminem tellin you how much they helped on GRODT. 50 an attention hoe. He's really insecure, that's why that niggas always on the radio. RADIO + YOUTUBE= MODERN DAY SNITCHIN
September 15, 2008 5:30 PM
 

fifthwardtx said:

on the real side, like many of you have said, Juelz is buggin' for that hottest in NY comment! I think he meant to say the hottest in the Dip!

whether Cam sold his contract or not, the point for him is that he is now his own man and can do him! That's wassup! Hopefully, he can now drop some dope music as he hasn't really done anything HOT in a minute... The production game has been lacking...
September 15, 2008 6:19 PM
 

Nex Gin said:

@Quiseebaby
Wutz good homie.  I see u on point as usual.  That was some real shit you said.  Its like a nigga flippin' on his mom after she gave birth to you, fed you, put clothes on yo ass and a roof ova yo head.  It's certain people in our lives that get that respect.....within' reason of course lol.
September 15, 2008 6:45 PM
 

Souman72 said:

I know and understand that you have to tell your self your the hottest rapper out , but can he really be serious , 3 years with out a CD but you the hottest huh?

Brother you nice but not that nice
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September 15, 2008 6:51 PM
 

micromark said:

Musically I really don't give a RAT'S ass about Dipset, the only reason I might listen to Jimmy or Juelz is cause they cool  with 50, I mean they both got a couple good tracks but nothing spectacular. Cam'ron's "oh boy" was the last shit I bumped in my stereo in my crib, never mind my whip, wasn't that good, after that, (yawns)  I started to lose interest, then he started wearing fucking Pink all the time that really made me feel gay watching him, I know IG's in Chicago that don't wear Pink all the fuckin time like that, and I started to think his cologne might smell like a women's perfume so I was like "man that's enough" I was done with him. Well that's just my opinion I'mma go light a blunt now, peace.
September 15, 2008 7:03 PM
 

IceDrippinz said:

Juelz, lissen lil' nigga. Cam is the boss and he did sell U like ah fuckin' prostitute. It is what it is.

Things ain't been the same since that tape came out of Juniur Mafia whippin' Jim Jones ass right in Harlem. That was the beginning of the end. 50 just came and threw dirt on they grave.
September 15, 2008 7:58 PM
 

NelsoNetic said:

AAAh fuck juelz ,

Purple city bird gang should drop another album not that fake ass byrdgang with that fake jay-z sounding nigga on it.
And whattafuck is skullgang ?
Man cam'ron should leave the shit for what it is cause what the rest of the Dips rap right now is crap right now.

Cam drop that new album !!!
September 15, 2008 8:16 PM
 

Latino Power said:

Yea i personally think that Dipset contracts are all fucked up. The business side over there isnt very good but all the artists are really talented. Cam, Juelz, Jones, JR Writer, 40 Cal, Max B, Stack Bundles are all dope con la lyrics and flow and just over all but business be fucking them up so they aint making anything.

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September 15, 2008 9:31 PM
 

Cholo1510 said:

not a Huge Juelz fan. But sometimes i sense that he is a lil more business savy and intelligent than a lot of rappers
September 15, 2008 9:55 PM
 

thaman1010 said:

Fuck Juelz Santana..unloyal piece of shit.
September 15, 2008 10:07 PM
 

BIG BLU-FIRE BEATS said:

LOL...MAN THIS WHOLE SITUATION IS FUNNY U DIG.....ALL THIS STARTED HAPPENING WHEN  CAM STARTED TALKIN SHIT...ABOUT   ALLOT OF  PEOPLE..I MEAN HE WAS REALLY FEELING HIM SELF..I SAW CAM ON RAP CITY BUMPIN GUMS ABOUT HE MURDERED JAY-Z AND NAS..LOL.....OK...BUT HE DID GIVE IT TO JAY ON THAT ONE SONG...I MEAN HE JUST WOULDNT STOP...THEN HE CALLED IN ON A RADIO STATION WHILE 50 CENT WAS IN THERE AND 50 WAS COOL ...50 WASNT TRIPPEN AT ALL...THEN CAM OUT THE BLUE STARTED TRIPPEN ON 50 ABOUT KOCH RECORDS ...ANYWAY CAM GAVE IT TO 50...ON AIR...I MEAN HE WAS YELLEN SO LOUD HIS VOICE WAS CRACKEN...50 TOLD HIM TO CHILL..AND HE BRUSHED IT OFF INTELLIGENTLY.......CAM GOT 2 COCKY...FOR HIS OWN GOOD...U CANT BEEF WITH TO MANY HEAVY WEIGHTS AND THINK AINT NOTHIN GOIN 2 HAPPEN...THEN I SAW JIM ON RAP CITY WITH 50..LOL...SEE 50 KNOW HOW TO GET U...LOL....U KNOW CAM DIDNT LIKE THAT...I DIDNT...U GOTTA RIDE WITH YO CREW...THEN I HEARD THEY GOT CAM IN VIP..IN SOME CLUB...SOON AS CAM WALKED IN SOMEBODY STOOD UP..AND SOCKED THE SHIT OUT OF CAM..AND I HEARD HE DIDNT DO SHIT..AND EVERY SINCE THEN CAM BEEN VERY LO KEY...I GOTTA GOOD MEMORY .....BUT IM ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKIN IN U DIG...50 BROKE THAT SHIT UP...BUT CAM CAN STILL COME BACK BUT I DONT KNOW HOW...............

NOW AS FOR JUELS    AHM..WHAT CAN I SAY....HE CANT STAY STILL WAITIN ON SOMEBODY ELSE...SO BIG UPS...BUT HES NOT THE HOTTEST RAPPER IN NEW YORK...ITS 50 AND JAY...
September 15, 2008 10:12 PM
 

elflaks said:

i was glad to hear that he didnt throw dirt on him(cam)&acknoledged that he put him (cam)on,that was big!despite of everything thats going on.in the music biz someones always gonna try to play you for your money,9out of ten times its the person who put you on,i wish him the best he was the hottest in NY@1 point but its been awhile,GOOD LUCK!
September 15, 2008 11:16 PM
 

hotfire82 said:

That nigga is diluesional!!! No album in 3 years and you say you the best rapper in NY ? Ok...... I ain't even from NY and that alone was just a 100% dumb ass statement! no alb in 3 yrs WTF!? I ain't never cared for The Dipshits no way they was just a bunch of fags to me niggas rocking pick coats & timberlands come now!!!

I'm glad 50 body these niggas that goes to show you beef with fif is deadly to your career lol
September 16, 2008 12:02 AM
 

AçE\V/MăxX \ﭏ/ {Ž}NINJA said:

lol I guess with the crappy and irresponsible state of the industry a lot of artist are beginning to feel the pinch suddenly causing people to do a host of strange hoopla, I mean i'm not saying the dipsets are the only ones apparently having conflict within their circle(obviously not), i'm just saying  on the business side of things in terms of dipset this seems to be a very desperate and reaching move!, I mean why in the dumb world would dipset want to distance it's interactions with any and I mean any of there artist! which is essentially an essential element/method that kept their whole movement(as they call it) on wheels for years, banishing any one of their entourage from the group is like purposely busting a gaping hole in one of your tires on the only car you have!, and we all know what that means it's useless/pointless after that! lol, straight up foolish move

I dig dipset (i'm not limited to them of course but i'm still a fan never the less) and I will say( since this is what I feel  and I always say what I feel) there is no best in dipset!, it's more like the best of dipset cause everybody keeps it moving, there is no back bone/spine of dipset except for each one of it's individual members cooperating together, take out a piece of the segment/bone(a member), and it's a step back in the *wrong* direction!,excuse me did I say a step back?,

uuummm....

excuse my sense of humor that's laughable! cause they're going to go nowhere!, everything these dudes got going for them would slowly and "comically" collapse!! like a spinal column with piece of it's Vertebra missing, there reputation is gonna start to clown down( and probably dumb down..... in a serious way), this is the last thing dipset needs right now a meltdown at a time when hiphop is at it's lowest but waite with all the she-males whining and squabbling about who has the most jewelry and pearls yadda yadda and packaging their souls for money it gets lower!

so go dumb everybody! go dumb, the whole crappy world is doing it you can do it toooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaa yeeeeeeeeeeee you can get away with anything once you're an idiot.


LMAO a dudes tripping over some shit Juelz said about being "the hottest thing in NY" WOW to them that's a newsflash! like we haven't heard 1 million rappers already claiming to be "the hottest thing in *insert place here*" before, i'll tell you what some things just get old
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September 16, 2008 12:58 AM
 

DBISONE said:

Juelz is GARBAGE. When he was first getting introduced he was that guy out of dipset, only out of dipset. Anyways fuck it I dont feel like hating on the guy so do your thang. And if your great in your own mind then fuck it. Do you.
September 16, 2008 1:45 AM
 

RawFishscale said:

juelz is cool but he isn't near the biggest artist in new york that's just ignorant.
September 16, 2008 3:10 AM
 

A-Mafia said:

I thought dipset was cam'ron, jimmy, jewels, hell rell, 40 cal, j.r wrter, freaky zeky and jahja. what the fuck does this young ponk mean the third party! Look ass whole thses niggaz is almost not to be fucked wit! Cma been dat nigga so he ca say what he want if niggaz ain't showin no loyalty, on top a dat niggaz need to just go to the round table!  HARLEM EGOS ASIDE!! DAT SHIT GONE KILL YALL NIGGAZ
September 16, 2008 3:47 AM
 

A-Mafia said:

  BIG BLU-FIRE BEATS said:
I SAW JIM ON RAP CITY WITH 50..LOL...SEE 50 KNOW HOW TO GET U...LOL....U KNOW CAM DIDNT LIKE THAT...I DIDNT...U GOTTA RIDE WITH YO CREW...THEN I HEARD THEY GOT CAM IN VIP..IN SOME CLUB...SOON AS CAM WALKED IN SOMEBODY STOOD UP..AND SOCKED THE SHIT OUT OF CAM..AND I HEARD HE DIDNT DO SHIT..AND EVERY SINCE THEN CAM BEEN VERY LO KEY...I GOTTA GOOD MEMORY .....BUT IM ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKIN IN U DIG...50 BROKE THAT SHIT UP...BUT CAM CAN STILL COME BACK BUT I DONT KNOW HOW...............                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             SO A NIGGA PUNCHED CAM IN A CLUB AN HE AINT DO SHIT????          >>NIGGAZ GOTZ NO FUCKING LOYALTY<<
September 16, 2008 4:00 AM
 

Akaneon1 said:

Juelz is the best artist in NY right now... except for maybe Jay-Z or Nas, but come on, in the past ten years, what have we got in NY? Look at the artists coming out of NY and the south right now, they fuckin' suck, no offense but come on.

Big ups to Juelz for keepin it real man. He's being nice too, and not dissin on Cam
September 16, 2008 4:43 AM
 

Quiseebaby said:

 Nex Gin said:
@Quiseebaby
Wutz good homie.  I see u on point as usual.  That was some real shit you said.  Its like a nigga flippin' on his mom after she gave birth to you, fed you, put clothes on yo ass and a roof ova yo head.  It's certain people in our lives that get that respect .....within' reason of course lol.
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September 16, 2008 10:42 AM
 

raynestizzy said:

Hottest in NY?? Hmmm ok... but chea, I respect the fact that hes not badmouthing Cam tho. These days people let loyality fly out the window faster then superman tryna get some pussy from wonder woman.


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September 16, 2008 1:51 PM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

  HELLRAISER said:
lol @ him saying hes the hottest out right now. come on now you really dont want to go there............................
September 15, 2008 10:36 AM  
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lmao, same thing I was thinking.....Im from Dallas n Im quite sure he aint tha hottest...he made that shit all tha way up!
September 17, 2008 8:01 AM
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