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Hip-Hop Rumors: Eminem Scraped Album? Talk About R. Kelly! Hillary To Be Vice President?  
Published Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:15 AM
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By illseed

DISCLAIMER:


All content within this section is pure rumor and generally have no factual info outside of what the streets have whispered in our ear. Read on.


TODAY'S RUMORS!


Hardy har har...I messed up the rumors yesterday and they came out all late. People act like I put them up late on purpose. They must not know the schedule I keep, do they?


Click here for the other rumors and some god aweful pics of Amy Winehouse!


R.KELLY…DID HE PASS THE TEST?


First if all, who saw R. Kelly on BET last night? I almost boycotted it, but I watched at the last minute.  I know Kellz was deemed not guilty, but he had guilt all over the place in that interview. Mind you, not guilty is not the same as innocent. Get it right. But, there was a moment where Kelly mentioned having 19 year old “friends” and questioned what a teenager was. That was a very telling moment. Toure looked a lil funny, but that might have been editing. It seemed like T was on the edge, ready to pounce, but couldn’t because he was being held back. Nevertheless, I personally know certain things and my opinion stands as mine.


What did you think?!!?!

LONG LIVE THE PIED PIPER!


WILL SMITH IS NOT A SCIENTOLOGIST!


Just because my boy Will Smith is the biggest thing in Hollywood, you think he’s the new Tom Cruise. Well, I have news for you: he’s not. As you know, he recently founded a school in LA and they have one of the programs of Scientology's study programs. At a recent appearance, he dropped a bomb. Will reportedly stated emphatically that he is NOT Scientologist. Now what do ya have to say protesters?


VICE-PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!?????


With all this Palin stuff going on, it maybe time for desperate measures. Read what I got from my homey Jerome.


According to a an exclusive source close to the Northeast Intelligence Network, the possibility exists for a major change to the Democrat presidential campaign of Barack Obama. Our source, citing other highly reliable sources, states that Senator Joe Biden will withdraw as the Democrat Vice-Presidential candidate, possibly due to some imminent medical emergency. These sources go on to state that negotiations have occured between Barack Obama and Bill Clinton to replace Senator Biden on the ticket with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.


With time drawing short to election day and given the tremendous impact to the presidential race by Republican Vice-Presidential candidate Sarah Palin, a potential political paradigm shift of this magnitude is not out of the question. Recent commentary by Senator Biden suggesting that Hillary should have been Obama's VEEP nominee might actually betray a Democrat strategy which has been forming within the DNC in recent days to preclude what appears at this point to be a potential electoral defeat at the polls on November 4, 2008.


I can’t lie…I wouldn’t even be mad at this.


NO BEEF BETWEEN ZRO AND TRAE


Ever since Trae cold busted Mike Jones, all has been quiet in H-Town. Now, here is the latest. There is an interview on the web saying ZRo was saying the fight with Mike and Trae was a bad look. Well, any Johnny Come Lately's that think there is beef, I am here to tell you there is none, The two men have already talked and they have ended any friction.


DEDICATED TO SARAH PALIN


I was reluctant to put this up, but I have to be fair. My homey sent me this song about Sarah Palin. It's called "I Wanna Lay Your Pipeline" by John Brown.


here's the link


http://www.zshare.net/audio/1887629822a542de/


How cool is is that Barack was ridiculed for, among other things, being a celebrity and Sarah Palin is now the new rock star. Shout out to Bazooka Charlie.


ALLHIPHOP WHORES!!!!


Twitter Whores that is!


http://twitter.com/allhiphopcom

http://twitter.com/illseed



We are basically twitter flirts, but we hope to be Twitter Whores in no time!


ILLSEED'S QUICKIES


Well, I well say that Kanye West improved "Love Lockdown." I'm not in love with it, but I'm not loathing it either. When its all said and done...we'll love it. Here is where you can get it.


I heard that while in Hawaii, some people will talk to some people about using that autotune/vocoder/talk box on their whole album.


Poprah from "I Want To Work For Diddy" fame used to be a very thinly shaped dime!


Big Joe was recently at the Exxxotica Expo in New York City. Big Joe? He is the former manager for Dip Set. There was a video of him giving his version of the $70k allegedly juxed from some Brits in 2004. This resulted in Juelz having some issues when he went over there. Get me that vid! I heard he said, "I ain't on parole mutha f**ka."


LL Cool J came in at no 9 on the charts with 43,926 units sold.


Meanwhile, Madonns plans to be the first major artist to release an album to mobile devices before retail.


Eminem reportedly trashed his album because most of it didn’t fit into a 2008 landscape.


Ne-Yo is doing a song with old head crooner Michael Bolton – GOOD STUFF!


Dame Dash’s baby’s mother is going to get it! An arrest warrant has been issued for the Linda Williams for not bringing back Boogie, Dash's 16-year-old son.


Mashonda completely believes that Alicia Keys is her husband’s girlfriend – I hear.


RANDOM QUOTES


50 Cent talks about Eminem coming back out:


“You’ll be seeing him shortly. He’s working,” 50 told U.K.’s ITN News during a red carpet interview. “Even though he tries to relax and stay home it’s impossible for him to stay in.”


Bryan “Baby” Williams talks about re-signing his son:


“Working with our son Lil Wayne throughout the many years has helped us build Cash Money into the empire it is today.”


SIGNS THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END


This dude is one crazy MoFo. Bear Grylls entertains people by acting like he is int he wild and eats a frighteningly large beetle larva on the Discovery Channel. The thing is...the sign is...he's probably going to be eating these for real in a few months.



That's just nasty!


50 CENT VS BARACK!?


Nah…Barack and Curtis is a new short documentary by Byron Hurt. Here is the trailer.


EMINEM'S INTERVIEW - EM COMES OUT OF HIDING FOR DELICIOUS VINYL

Masta Ace was there too. Eminem is doing some production work with Ace. Check out how it went down.




NJPAC IN NEWARK, NJ – ALLHIPHOP’S SOCIAL LOUNGE – THURSDAY

SEPT. 18

First of all, click here to get your seat at the Social Lounge. The RSVP process is very simple.


The Social Loung Features:


Moderator - Chuck “Jigsaw” Creekmur


Panelist Intro - Michael Eric Dyson, Q-Tip of A Tribe Called Quest, Michaela Angela Davis, Killer Mike, & Kevin Powell


Closing Remarks - By Mayor Cory Booker


Performance - by Camp Lo


DJ Trendz – On the wheels of steel.


AllHipHop’s Social Lounge is a recurring, highly popular event where Hip-Hop legends and celebrities, as well as individuals from the academic, business and political sectors, participate in a roundtable discussion about current topics and issues facing the Hip Hop industry. This dynamic discussion is followed by a performance from a popular Hip Hop artist. This year’s Social Lounge event will focus on the ’08 presidential election & general politics. Planned partnership with Mayor’s office In Newark, NJ. Venue: NJPAC.


Here is last years drop with Wendy Williams, Cornel West, David Banner, Monch, Master P and Saigon.


For directions and RSVP, click here!


Push Em Back.. Push Em Back... Push Em Way Back.. Joe Buddens Album gets postponed!

 
I thought I'd get in the football spirit ( hey I know its corny you don't have to tell me)! Moving along to the news I've gotten word that Joe Buddens album The Padded Room has been pushed back to February 28th.  The reason why? Complications with the physical product! I'm not to sure what the hell that means but I'm sure it label lingo for ...'Sh*t aint ready' In any event if your a die hard Budden fan (like most new jersians are including myself) you can check out his digital album titled  The Halfway House which comes out on Oct 28th under Joe's own digital label Amalgam Digital.  The album will feature 14 tracks and can be purchased at www.amalgamdigital.com.  In response to his album release failure Joe had this to say in a recent statement:
 

'Though I'm not happy about it being pushed so far back, I do understand the method behind the madness. We've got an album I'm extremely proud of and a lead single that Amalgam Digital and I are both very happy with, but for those of you who are just as anxious as I am, I apologize.'
 

 
The original release date of Joe Buddens album was October 28th!

 
Another Day Another Reality Show... Irv Gotti Gets Renewed by VH1

 
Well it's about damn time! I love drama almost as much as I love my mama (if you catch me in between some juicy drama maybe more) and I'm so excited that Irv Gotti's reality show 'Gotti's Way' has been renewed for another season!  The new season will pick up where the old show left off with Irv and his (estranged... just JK) Deb trying to work through their marital issues.  The show will also continue to follow Irv's journey to reclaim his empire Murder Inc and take over hip hop once again.  While I'm not too interested in Irv trying to salvage a dream deferred I am more than ecstatic to see him and Deb try to work out their personal issues in the open! Hell I need something to draw me in! If your just as big a fan as I am check out the second season when it premieres on Nov.3rd!
 
 
While I'm on Comebacks... Diahann Carroll Puts Sidney on Blast!

 
Now I know we are a hip hop site but everyone knows Diahann Carroll for my older heads she was the mother in the 70's super film 'Claudine' and for my younger cats she played Whitley's' mother on 'A Different World' So know that we are all on one accord... To the Juice:
 
Whoever said classy chicks always take the high road is a bold face liar! Dihann Carroll is coming out with a memoir and she has no bad mouthing well respected actor Sidney Poitier and his relationship woes when it came to her! Peep below via nypost.com:
 
In her new memoir, “The Legs Are the Last to Go,” Diahann Carroll - the Bronx-born beauty who made history as TV’s first black sitcom star in “Julia” - portrays Poitier as a heel who convinced her and first hubby Monte Kay to divorce after confronting Kay, saying he loved Carroll and was splitting from his wife to be with her. She writes: “Sidney called me at my hotel . . . ‘You bitch, whore, tramp,’ he yelled. ‘I know he just left your bed. I won’t have you running around with other men. You belong to me!’ “
 
Things got worse when, she says, Poitier told her he’d finally called it quits with his wife, Juanita Hardy, bought her a ring, and had her decorate a 10-room Riverside Drive apartment he’d bought. “I was only home a few days when he called to say his wife was having second thoughts. Our wedding plans would have to be postponed,” Carroll writes. “When the apartment was ready and I was about to move my daughter in with me, Sidney told me he didn’t want her there . . . He changed the locks so I couldn’t get in. Then he made me write him a check to offset his purchase and decorating costs. I did as I was told, submissive and desperate.”
 
Man the Superhead movement just won't die! Even oldies but goodies are getting a piece of the pie! While ya'll playing Imma go get a copy asap! Eventhough I'm a little weary about the title... Talk about subliminal messages ;-)
 
Lady Drama's Food For Thought:
 
Who is Illseed tryna fool, Rumors were late due to Twitter updates every 5 seconds! Anyone who hasn't hopped on the twitter bandwagon make it happen! It's the biggest movement since registering to vote for the upcoming election!
 
I hear Nate Dogg is in stable condition! Keep pushing... you and your family are in my prayers!
 
Floyd Mayweather is slowly becoming a Reggaeton artist... That's like Milli Vanilli trying to sing live, it just won't work! 
 
Swizz and Mashonda are still legally married... Who knew! Whats the hold up we know it aint FINANCIAL!
 
Love me or Leave me Alone... But if you can't say anything nice about someone then come sit by me!
 

THE SOCIAL LOUNGE, WE LOVE YOU!


They keep us talking, but if we stop talking about them then they should worry!

-illseed

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WHAT: Rumors
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- allhiphop rumors


Comments

 

alski said:

i guess im numero uno
September 17, 2008 9:24 AM
 

alski said:

AFTER LASTNIGHT IM CONVINCED R KELLY IS THE NEW MICHAEL JACKSON...LMAO
September 17, 2008 9:25 AM
 

digitaldre said:

good morning world
September 17, 2008 9:27 AM
 

Tommy K. said:

*Unlocks door with key and steps in building…*



What’s up AHH?


I would have post yesterday but I was too busy dealing with some unfinished e-beef in the IC.


*I know it’s been a long time since my last post on the rumor pages, I have just been so busy dealing with real life bs but before I get into that I want to talk about the IC…

Every time I leave for a lil while something different happens to the IC… For example, I remember one tiem I left the IC got a bs upgrade. (The rest of the AHH site was is on point though) Then I leave again and the IC gets taken over by hackers…and I leave for a few days again and it’s back up with another bs upgrade that’s even more hackable than the last! (I like the fact that you can create a profile though.) I would hate to see what happens the next time I decide to dip out for a few days. Not to mention that half of my classic threads are gone now! That made me mad as hell. AHH lost for this one!


*Man y’all real talk, phuck those pigs mane… The reason why I disappeared last week is because last Thursday the Feds came and snatched me out of my crib over a murder that happened over two years ago, that I had nothing to do with!!!

Ok, let me explain…

See, a little over two years ago my friend and DJ (I’m a MC for those of you who don’t know) was killed in our Orangeburg SC studio with no possible suspects or no ideas for a possible motive. Reason being, is that he was a good dude, that did not bother anybody. So in retaliation some lil dudes from my hood (mind you I don’t even know these kats like that) went and murked some dude who they thought did it. Either way this was a stupid move because now we have no way of knowing any information that he would have known now. While this was going on I was 2 hours away at my place in Columbia SC.

So anyway, to make a long story short these fools ask me a bunch of stupid questions, make me take a lie detector test (which I passed), and asked me for names and stuff like that. Of course I went into Cam’ron mode and didn’t say anything. For 1, I don’t even know these kids names and 2, I would rather hood justice than police justice anyway. Not to mention I just don’t like cops.

Even though it’s not my style I’m thinking about taking legal actions against these mofos because they could have caused me to loose my job witched I worked very hard to obtain. The thing is,.. I don’t think that they had a legit warrant. Plus there are a number of other things I could throw at them. As soon as I figure out my angle I’m going to strike so wish me luck y’all. Remember; fight the power and phuck a pig!

After that happened I figured I would take a break from posting and make sure I get my business st8. Some of you know we are trying to open up a club/clothing store/music studio (Tha Spot). Oh and Sat I was in a rap battle and won $1,000 so I’m happy about that. When I get the video I will post a youtube link.


*In other news…

Question!: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic. Which is the better album?, You decide. Also All Eyes On Me vs. Life After Death?

If you ask me I think Obama faired pretty well on that Fox news show. (I dare not repeat the name)

@ BFG, What’s up? Sorry it took me about two years but I’m finally getting back at you about Block-Busta. I would have got back at you the next day but as you can see above, I was sidetracked. (I’m going to give you the very short version)

Ok about 5 years back a group of young men started an organization called S.A.T.O. Darkside. The main goal of this group was to make a difference in the black community by creating awareness and unity. It was created by 8 founding members also known as Tha Block. The reason why they were known as Tha Block is because they are from the four main regions of the US. Two from the East Cost (NYC), Two From the West Cost (LA), Two From the Midwest (Chi), and two from the South (Texas and yours truly from South Carolina). All with dark pasts wanting to make a change so that the next generation doesn’t have to grow up lost in the matrix.

Now we have 3,200 members across the US to date, including entrepreneurs, gangbangers, politicians, lawyers, preachers, internet gurus and people of all walks of life, creeds and colors looking to make a difference. I would give out specific names but would be going against how we like to work. We are sought of the anti illuminati so to speak, trying to get people to think outside of the box. Right now we are focusing on getting kids through school, changing the wack ass hip-hop on the raido stations, stopping all of this black on brown violence that’s going on in the west and and texas right now, getting folks to register to vote and things of that nature. This has grown to be a lot bigger than I could have ever imagine to tell you the truth.

Around the same time when the Darkside came together I started rapping. We always used to say “that dude got the block on smash” in my hood when somebody was doing they thing so that’s kinda how the term Block-Busta came about and became the name my rap group. Not to mention the fact that it’s just catchy and a play on “Tha Block” because 4 of us are the original members of S.A.T.O. Darkside.

Oh yea, Darkside is actually a community in South Carolina. S.A.T.O. (Soldierz, Assassinz, Thugz, N Outlawz) Is a specific area in Darkside. We just thought it would be a good name. (Darkside> S.A.T.O.> Block-Busta)

Well that is the short version but I hope that answers your question. I will still post the blog for you when I find it, k.

@ LTBROWN

Hey, I was wondering… not to be complaining again but you know how my title says “TommyK [AHH Veteran and “big brother”. Un-banned and back in business. Lol]”?, Well I was thinking that you might want to take this into consideration...

I pretty much look at you as a big sister being that I’m so much younger than most of the people on here (21). Oh and I don’t know if you could use Un-banned because I never got that account back lol. I had to make a new one (Tommy K.). So maybe, my title should go like “Tommy K. [AHH Veteran and “lil brother”. Non-banned new account and back in business Lol]” You know you don’t have to but it’s just a thought. I hope you have a great day though!

I am officially squashing the beef with SuperGangsta… It’s played out now, I need somebody new argue with.


*Attention* I present to you, Tommy K.’s first ever shout out list!

(In no particular order or no homo stuff like that):

WILLY KILLEM?
Ms_ESPN   (Back of Milk Carton status, M.I.A.???)
MAINE MAN
Rosco!
Boss Up   (Tha Mayor in this Bia, Bia!)
BlackPeople 1   (I got some beats I want you to hear later)
DC CA$HVILLE
Nex Gin
HaitianSavvy
dwill1   (Hope you alright out in the H-Town my dude)
Professor X
Hip Hop GM
DruMANATI
GawgaBwoy770
DGrudge   (Brush them shits!)
SeanJohn81   (Keeps me on point with the album sales)
MissDallasTx214
NthngIs4vr& AlwyzIsALIE
Kappagem
lchelle125
Duckman XL
Adopefemalemc   (Thanks again for that convo)
Doobie Ashtrayz
Odeisel
Timebomb4ya   (Crazy AKA Donkey postin’ mofo)
LTBROWN
T-ROC   (One of the realest posters I’ve seen to date)
Allahschild
Shifty_UK
HoodProphet
The_R_
Killuminati 187   (Slaps on the back of the head nh)
ThaGreat1
Haughville
Dove
Illseed
Lady Drama
Shellz
Npaz
willie falcone
Savy_Da_Boss
HELLRAISER   ( Damn, I leave for a lil while and you’re a Hadji now huh? SMH)
Kappagem
NightFall914
DA-CROOK
heart_beat_of_305MIA
DoNBigThangs
QueensNY
Cabana da Don
Numberonedon
Knowl
pimpharder
MAK™   (AHH Avi King)
Young BRINK!
C_A_K
VAgogetta
Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer
Raskhalif
Water Ur Seeds
Quis4sho
Killa2thaB
B*braze
Hush
SPATE Magazine All Day
Cmacjb
slimturk
Afgooey
J-Man
Davy da prince
D-block 4life
King High Pimpn   (Don’t think I forgot about that beat down I owe you)
Hotnuknowit   (Did you see the Colts game?)
MEME_SLIM
The Trill
DEKALBCOUNTY
LXA
Hot Rod
BigSlimFL
wxm
WEST COAST EMT
AZTEC WARRIOR
Bhudda Flii
jubilee.shine
HipHopManiac
SEARS TOWER
JRucker
gunot_17
JuanitaCashHawkins
Kalibur
mu$h da great
HoodProphet
butrflygrl
TaylorMade_TaylorBranded
Five18p

Me, Myself, I,… Tommy K. (bka) T.K.O. (Full Name) Tommy Killfigure 1, (aka) 100 Shot Tommy (Known on AHH as…) Tha First and Last King!

Too many people in the IC to name but you know who you are…

Shouts out to everyone in the H-Town and surrounding areas who are trying to recover for hurricane Ike Turner!

If I phucks with you, and you know I phucks with you, and I forgot your name, my bad. I’m kool with so many people on here it’s hard to keep track sometimes. If you don’t know ya boi get familiar!

I know this is a long ass post but what are you gonna do about?!?, Oh that’s what I thought!

I would like to leave everyone with this peace that I call…

*The REAL B*tch*

He's been gone for centuries, but Willie Lynch still got our minds fucked up!
There's no more room for an excuse like, "tough luck".
Emancipation don't mean a damn thing while we continue to be slaves of our own ignorance.
We come from Kings and Queens, palaces, precious stones, peace and love.
But, ya'll would rather glorify the roach infested projects, pimps, hoes, streets and thugs.
You'd rather sell drugs to cop that Gucci bucket hat.
You'd rather manipulate our sistas, and tell them where to "suck it" at
And It's our own brothers your guns are buckin' at... for street credibility.
They bled unwillingly....
And for the eulogies of the victims, ya'll got nothin' but punch-lines???
We were once minds.... in unity

But now everybody's gotta be the Brave Slave. Go figure....

So who's the REAL bitch???..... "Nigga"

Just wanted to give everyone some dessert for brain storming to go with that food for thought.

It feels good to be back in the building that keeps on building… Peace!




Oh yea,…. Phuck A USER!!!



~Fresh Off Tha Plane but a Brother Still Fly!~
September 17, 2008 9:28 AM
 

dominicosed said:

Rumours late or what ?? Illseed !!!
September 17, 2008 9:28 AM
 

LXA said:



Shout out to the whole team!!

(Except SaluateYaGeneral)




September 17, 2008 9:28 AM
 

fullgalaxy1 said:

no comments like r kelly I like 18 teen and up lol remember that song keisha got it, brenda got it, lil ole aaliayha got it ! r was telling us then he like lil gurls check out da song.
September 17, 2008 9:29 AM
 

Knowl said:

Peace!!!!!! Looks like I'm first, That's almost nice.
@illseed A lot of people give you shit, but know that the God rides for you. It's looking like I won't be at the Social lounge event tomorrow. what about the one on Sunday??? Let me know. I want to build with SOME of the people on here in the physical
Here's some of the video from R. Kelly on BET. Hell I want to suplex him on his neck. Why is a man who's pushing 40 have 19-year old friends?????? Hell if your not legal drinking age, I want nothing to do with you. Peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8is8Md-kbrA
September 17, 2008 9:31 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

whos beeper keep beepin and beepin???
September 17, 2008 9:33 AM
 

LEXXBROWN(BAHAMAS) said:

WHAT UP ALLHIPHOP FAMILY.

September 17, 2008 9:37 AM
 

T-ROC said:

I did not see R.Kelly interview. But, heard it on the radio. his answer (to you know what question) was like WTF!!! he buggin'.

Re: AllHipHop’s Social Lounge

Does cornell west & Michael E. Dyson really think they KNOW hip-hop. I mean what they going to do sit & around and just TALK...

Oh yeah we need to step up to them polls on Nov 4th. come on out ya'll...go to the polls.

Mr. GOVERNMENT can i borrow 3 billion dollars???? LOL LMAO @ the gov't "giving" away money.

September 17, 2008 9:37 AM
 

Will Grimey said:

Bryan “Baby” Williams talks about re-signing his son:

“Working with our son Lil Wayne throughout the many years has helped us build Cash Money into the empire it is today.”



OUR SON???

NATE DOGG HOLD YA HEAD....

TRE FO, NC CHEAAAA!!!

ONE HUUUUUNNNNNNDUD!!!!!
September 17, 2008 9:37 AM
 

SNAPPA said:

Bring back the IC.    

September 17, 2008 9:38 AM
 

Yamoley Almighty said:

It's whatever with R. Kelly, who cares....If the man enjoys the company of little girls, more power to him. I'm not gonna knock his hustle. Yet this is such a big thing, but the alleged "King of Rock n Roll", Elvis, married a 15 year old Priscilla and was courting her when she was 14. That hardly gets brought up. Do your thing, Kells.
September 17, 2008 9:39 AM
 

Bkrepper said:

What AHH Shoutouts to my People HoodProphet,WillyKillem,Knowl,SeanJohn81,LTBROWN,g-unot_17 Whats the deal                                                              My question is who the hell is LL gonna blame for that flop cause it dam sure cant be Jay. Ill get at yall later got a class to teach one!
September 17, 2008 9:41 AM
 

JRucker said:

Good Morning AHH

Shouts to Everyone and Peace to all!!!

I saw 'Roberts' interview last night... I was trippin when he said "explain teenager"... lol.. he knew what Toure meant. His ass has a problem with girls under 20 and he knows it. But hey, atleast he is working on keeping it legal!!! If I was Robert... I would not have did an interview. I would have kept making music and left it at that. No back to the hits Kells!!!

Damn LL... under 50k huh? Exit 13

Obama can and will win without hilary. if they do the switch-a-roo.. it will be obvious what the game plan is and may help some but it doesnt matter. he will win regardless

Obama or Die '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 17, 2008 9:46 AM
 

JRucker said:

LXA said:


Shout out to the whole team!!

(Except SaluateYaGeneral)
-------

funny shit! peace fam
September 17, 2008 9:46 AM
 

Ken_Masters said:

17th!!!!!!!!! or sumthin
September 17, 2008 9:47 AM
 

Ken_Masters said:

@Snappa, the ic is back.................pause....................
September 17, 2008 9:48 AM
 

Knowl said:

@Tommy K Damn sun the devil has you going through it. If you need to build, vent, make sure you have the right firepower for if they come back (I feel you on the cop thing, I hate alphabets as well) build with the God.
@ Everyone, My Moon, MeMe asked me to inform everyone that she lost power again. We're both pissed off about that. I had a long amazing talk with her last night. It felt good to hear her voice... (Yeah Juanita and Keyanna I'm happy again) she says thank you for the love and well wishes.
Here's the shout out list once again.....shouts to:
Meme_Moon (On my mind hon, My Moon and Queen)
adopefemalemc (You can use my phone to call Ohio)
True Scientist (Am I going to send a search party out for you?)
Kappa (You have mail)
Likarish (you've been on the low, hon. Everything ok?)
C_A_K
LTbrown (good looking on the love)
ms_espn
bx_nena
VAgogetta (Hottest shout outs)
Boss up
Cresent  
hotnuknowit (Is it stalking if Bun B allows it?)
AJ22 (Stay real and peace)
jadoremoii (Where ya been?)
Black People1
Hood Prophet (Rematch)
WEST COAST EMT
Five18p
Trini Emperess (country woman)
Mu$h (What's good?)
Chocolate1 (hey you)
Jrucker (Obama's real running mate)
Willy (Hold ya head... and your arm)
Hemi (We need to build some more)
Tupacfan (hey you. Get well)
MYOPINION
Black Sean
GUNOT_17
J Dungy
Msdallas214 (What it do, hon? you ok?)
Sofi
Juanita (Hit me when you get to the 718)
Blaqman99
Killa2thaB
B*braze
Lady Drama
Illseed(keep these Rumors coming!)
Davy Da Prince (Fellow West Indian)
MD-2-BX VIA I95 (B XXXXXXX)
TaylorMade_TaylorBranded (Hot ass shout outs)
DGRUDGE (Brush up before you get a shout out. Brush up)
ATL$t@r (Peace to the West End. That's my 2nd City)
Tommy K (LAST! Hold your head)
September 17, 2008 9:53 AM
 

Ken_Masters said:

@illseed, whats big fella, put summa those twitter smuts  on line, ask em if they Street Fighter fans?? then tell em u know me, id be a good look for both of us, shmell me??
September 17, 2008 9:53 AM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

Morning, morning Ahh!!!!!
lmao @
"Hardy har har...I messed up the rumors yesterday and they came out all late. People act like I put them up late on purpose. They must not know the schedule I keep, do they?"

I told ya I had tha rumors covered til your arrival : )

@ Tommy K, preciate tha shout out!!!!
September 17, 2008 9:54 AM
 

Ken_Masters said:

damn Em and Joe Budden pushin they shit back, NOW IM PISSED. oh well at least Joey and Royce is finna finally go at it.
September 17, 2008 9:55 AM
 

Knowl said:

@Bkrepper
What's good? kid? stay peace
September 17, 2008 9:56 AM
 

bknewstash said:

LL Cool J came in at no 9 on the charts with 43,926 units sold.

lmao
September 17, 2008 10:01 AM
 

T-ROC said:

@ Tommy K

Hold ya head, son!!! you did the right thing and got yo' business right!!!

Oh, you a thousandaire homey (winning a $1,000).LOL


LL Cool J came in at no 9 on the charts with 43,926 units sold.


Who will LL blame NOW?
September 17, 2008 10:04 AM
 

bknewstash said:

Bear grylls is the nastiest mofo alive. that bug popped like a damn boil.
September 17, 2008 10:05 AM
 

Quiseebaby said:

Yo i watched that Kellz interview and he shouldnt have even did it. He did say anything important and made himself look like even more of a sick child predator in the interview. Watch he gone be on MSNBC in a minute...
Chris: Have a seat.
R KELLY: O ok. I was just dropping off a cd for a fan.
Chris: Did u know your fan is a teenage child??
R Kelly: What do you mean by teenager?
Chris: 14!!
R Kelly: Well you know people all want a pieces of R Kelly. The fan i talked to was not illegal.
Chris: Do you have any condoms with you?
R Kelly: Well yea. Ima R Kelly. I want my fans to practice safe sex, so I was going to give her these condoms with the cd.....



Man this dude is sick !!!! Ya get the point!
September 17, 2008 10:08 AM
 

Dragonfly Jones said:

Waddup AHH?!?  i checked tha rumors early today so im at tha top of dis ho. now i need something to say... OBAMA FOR MANKIND!!!, ANDRE 3000 is tha best MC to breathe, and i love asian chicks. Today is my 21st birthday so im fina go exercise the rights obtained on such a day, go purchase me a handlebar of that jack dan, and get thowed like pigskin.   holla at me
September 17, 2008 10:12 AM
 

bigscosha115 said:

z-ro and trae are cuzzins they whats up...as for big joe former dipset manager he cold told on camron julez was bout to get robbed over some of camrons shit damn thats why they beefin damn camron.....r-jelly is a cornholer who can sing....
September 17, 2008 10:12 AM
 

SniperK said:

I'm glad to see Em working with Master Ace considering he jocked Master Ace's whole flow.  Listen to Eminem's 'Infinite' where he kind of sounds like Nas or AZ and then listen to all of his projects after that where he sounds like Master Ace.

I'm glad Em basically admitted this in the radio interview you have up here.  Now maybe Em can shout out Cage for borrowing his dark subject matter from Cage's early career.
September 17, 2008 10:18 AM
 

hotnuknowit said:

Tommy K!!!! I missed-ded you.....
I see every Colts game baby....the one against the Vikings had my stomach bubble-ating! I had talked so much shit, they was messing my name up... Damn but uhm, Adrian Peterson was doin his thing.... I had to catch myself from getting hype off of his plays. Now you know Bob Sanders is gonna be out for 4-6 weeks right??? Ain't that a bitch?

September 17, 2008 10:20 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

thought i was a donut

you tried to glaze me
September 17, 2008 10:23 AM
 

Dank1 said:

I think you're pulling some bitch moves with that R Kelly stuff Illseed.  
September 17, 2008 10:25 AM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

What's good AHH fam????

@Knowl,
have you heard from MEME yet??
September 17, 2008 10:25 AM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

Ugh @ signs the world is coming to an end....Illseed I was eating!!!!! Im mad now....

Im glad Trae and Mike Jones sqaushed it because it was outta line and it wasn't a good look for Texas.

Shout out to tha fam:
LT Brown (1st and foremost coz Im always gettin love from her)
MeMe_Slim
c_a_k
hotnuknowit
JuanitaCashHawkins
adopefemalemc
Ichelle125
knowl
Kalibur
Willy Killem?
TaylorMade_TaylorBranded
Kappagem
Hellraiser
DGrudge
Tommy K
Crescent City Connecktor
Sears Tower
DaCatsMeow
Butterfly girl
BhuddaFii
AJ22
Bre_N_Tx
BlackPeople1
Haughville
tha clear

......Whats da deal ahh la familia!!!! Hope all is well with you all.

September 17, 2008 10:26 AM
 

Boss Up said:

Twitter? seriously? this is wut we get to look forward to?

communication is dead
September 17, 2008 10:30 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL FUCK NIGGAZ!!!

GOOD TO SEE AHH GOIN TO BE IN THE BRICKS ON THURSDAY!! DON'T WALK NO BACK BLOCKS!!!

EM ONLY GOOD ALBUM WAS SLIM SHADY LP!!!

LL COOL J....YA ALBUM SALES SUCK NIGGA!!! GIVE THAT SHIT UP!!! OLD ASS NIGGAZ IS DONE FOR!!!!!!!!!!! NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JOE BUDDEN STILL MAKIN MAJOR MOVES!!! JERSEY UNITE!!! BRING BACK THA A-TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THE NJ HOMIE DROP!!

NIGGAZ THOUGHT THEY COULD DO IT WITHOUT CAM!!!! CAM KICK THEM DISLOYAL NIGGAZ OUT!!! CRIME PAYS COMING SOON!!!

FUCK THE IC!!!!!

SARAH PALIN DROP THAT SEX VIDEO!!!!!

IRV GOTTI BRING BACK THA REAL MURDER INC.....JAY, JA, X

VITA WHERE YOU AT BABY?!?!?!? CHARLIE-BMORE!! WHAT UP MA?

JAY DROP THAT BLUEPRINT THREE

FREE PRODIGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEW DJ CLUE!!!!!!!!! CLUE TV VOL 1!!!!!!!!!!! IN STORES NOW!!!!

UEFA SOCCER LEAGUE BACK IN EFFECT!!!!

DALLAS COWBOYS & L.A. LAKERS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!

MAYWEATHER RUN IS OVA!!! ANDRE BERTO THAT UP & COMING!!! ANDRE BERTO FIGHT THIS WEEKEND ON HBO!!!!!!

ZAB PUT THAT HOVA (ACE OF SPADE) DOWN AND START FUCKING NIGGAZ UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.ANW.A.P. WE MAKE SPACE WHEN IT SEEM REAL NARROW



September 17, 2008 10:30 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL FUCK NIGGAZ!!!

GOOD TO SEE AHH GOIN TO BE IN THE BRICKS ON THURSDAY!! DON'T WALK NO BACK BLOCKS!!!

EM ONLY GOOD ALBUM WAS SLIM SHADY LP!!!

LL COOL J....YA ALBUM SALES SUCK NIGGA!!! GIVE THAT SHIT UP!!! OLD ASS NIGGAZ IS DONE FOR!!!!!!!!!!! NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JOE BUDDEN STILL MAKIN MAJOR MOVES!!! JERSEY UNITE!!! BRING BACK THA A-TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THE NJ HOMIE DROP!!

NIGGAZ THOUGHT THEY COULD DO IT WITHOUT CAM!!!! CAM KICK THEM DISLOYAL NIGGAZ OUT!!! CRIME PAYS COMING SOON!!!

FUCK THE IC!!!!!

SARAH PALIN DROP THAT SEX VIDEO!!!!!

IRV GOTTI BRING BACK THA REAL MURDER INC.....JAY, JA, X

VITA WHERE YOU AT BABY?!?!?!? CHARLIE-BMORE!! WHAT UP MA?

JAY DROP THAT BLUEPRINT THREE

FREE PRODIGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEW DJ CLUE!!!!!!!!! CLUE TV VOL 1!!!!!!!!!!! IN STORES NOW!!!!

UEFA SOCCER LEAGUE BACK IN EFFECT!!!!

DALLAS COWBOYS & L.A. LAKERS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!

MAYWEATHER RUN IS OVA!!! ANDRE BERTO THAT UP & COMING!!! ANDRE BERTO FIGHT THIS WEEKEND ON HBO!!!!!!

ZAB PUT THAT HOVA (ACE OF SPADE) DOWN AND START FUCKING NIGGAZ UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.ANW.A.P. WE MAKE SPACE WHEN IT SEEM REAL NARROW



September 17, 2008 10:30 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL FUCK NIGGAZ!!!

GOOD TO SEE AHH GOIN TO BE IN THE BRICKS ON THURSDAY!! DON'T WALK NO BACK BLOCKS!!!

EM ONLY GOOD ALBUM WAS SLIM SHADY LP!!!

LL COOL J....YA ALBUM SALES SUCK NIGGA!!! GIVE THAT SHIT UP!!! OLD ASS NIGGAZ IS DONE FOR!!!!!!!!!!! NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JOE BUDDEN STILL MAKIN MAJOR MOVES!!! JERSEY UNITE!!! BRING BACK THA A-TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THE NJ HOMIE DROP!!

NIGGAZ THOUGHT THEY COULD DO IT WITHOUT CAM!!!! CAM KICK THEM DISLOYAL NIGGAZ OUT!!! CRIME PAYS COMING SOON!!!

FUCK THE IC!!!!!

SARAH PALIN DROP THAT SEX VIDEO!!!!!

IRV GOTTI BRING BACK THA REAL MURDER INC.....JAY, JA, X

VITA WHERE YOU AT BABY?!?!?!? CHARLIE-BMORE!! WHAT UP MA?

JAY DROP THAT BLUEPRINT THREE

FREE PRODIGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEW DJ CLUE!!!!!!!!! CLUE TV VOL 1!!!!!!!!!!! IN STORES NOW!!!!

UEFA SOCCER LEAGUE BACK IN EFFECT!!!!

DALLAS COWBOYS & L.A. LAKERS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!

MAYWEATHER RUN IS OVA!!! ANDRE BERTO THAT UP & COMING!!! ANDRE BERTO FIGHT THIS WEEKEND ON HBO!!!!!!

ZAB PUT THAT HOVA (ACE OF SPADE) DOWN AND START FUCKING NIGGAZ UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.ANW.A.P. WE MAKE SPACE WHEN IT SEEM REAL NARROW



September 17, 2008 10:31 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL FUCK NIGGAZ!!!

GOOD TO SEE AHH GOIN TO BE IN THE BRICKS ON THURSDAY!! DON'T WALK NO BACK BLOCKS!!!

EM ONLY GOOD ALBUM WAS SLIM SHADY LP!!!

LL COOL J....YA ALBUM SALES SUCK NIGGA!!! GIVE THAT SHIT UP!!! OLD ASS NIGGAZ IS DONE FOR!!!!!!!!!!! NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JOE BUDDEN STILL MAKIN MAJOR MOVES!!! JERSEY UNITE!!! BRING BACK THA A-TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THE NJ HOMIE DROP!!

NIGGAZ THOUGHT THEY COULD DO IT WITHOUT CAM!!!! CAM KICK THEM DISLOYAL NIGGAZ OUT!!! CRIME PAYS COMING SOON!!!

FUCK THE IC!!!!!

SARAH PALIN DROP THAT SEX VIDEO!!!!!

IRV GOTTI BRING BACK THA REAL MURDER INC.....JAY, JA, X

VITA WHERE YOU AT BABY?!?!?!? CHARLIE-BMORE!! WHAT UP MA?

JAY DROP THAT BLUEPRINT THREE

FREE PRODIGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEW DJ CLUE!!!!!!!!! CLUE TV VOL 1!!!!!!!!!!! IN STORES NOW!!!!

UEFA SOCCER LEAGUE BACK IN EFFECT!!!!

DALLAS COWBOYS & L.A. LAKERS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!

MAYWEATHER RUN IS OVA!!! ANDRE BERTO THAT UP & COMING!!! ANDRE BERTO FIGHT THIS WEEKEND ON HBO!!!!!!

ZAB PUT THAT HOVA (ACE OF SPADE) DOWN AND START FUCKING NIGGAZ UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.ANW.A.P. WE MAKE SPACE WHEN IT SEEM REAL NARROW



September 17, 2008 10:31 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

YO ILL FUCK NIGGAZ!!!

GOOD TO SEE AHH GOIN TO BE IN THE BRICKS ON THURSDAY!! DON'T WALK NO BACK BLOCKS!!!

EM ONLY GOOD ALBUM WAS SLIM SHADY LP!!!

LL COOL J....YA ALBUM SALES SUCK NIGGA!!! GIVE THAT SHIT UP!!! OLD ASS NIGGAZ IS DONE FOR!!!!!!!!!!! NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JOE BUDDEN STILL MAKIN MAJOR MOVES!!! JERSEY UNITE!!! BRING BACK THA A-TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET THE NJ HOMIE DROP!!

NIGGAZ THOUGHT THEY COULD DO IT WITHOUT CAM!!!! CAM KICK THEM DISLOYAL NIGGAZ OUT!!! CRIME PAYS COMING SOON!!!

FUCK THE IC!!!!!

SARAH PALIN DROP THAT SEX VIDEO!!!!!

IRV GOTTI BRING BACK THA REAL MURDER INC.....JAY, JA, X

VITA WHERE YOU AT BABY?!?!?!? CHARLIE-BMORE!! WHAT UP MA?

JAY DROP THAT BLUEPRINT THREE

FREE PRODIGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEW DJ CLUE!!!!!!!!! CLUE TV VOL 1!!!!!!!!!!! IN STORES NOW!!!!

UEFA SOCCER LEAGUE BACK IN EFFECT!!!!

DALLAS COWBOYS & L.A. LAKERS 08-09 CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!

MAYWEATHER RUN IS OVA!!! ANDRE BERTO THAT UP & COMING!!! ANDRE BERTO FIGHT THIS WEEKEND ON HBO!!!!!!

ZAB PUT THAT HOVA (ACE OF SPADE) DOWN AND START FUCKING NIGGAZ UP

NJ WHAT UP 3X

NJ RUN THE I-95

609 LIGHT UP

SLK.DSP.DBLOCK.AWB.ANW.A.P. WE MAKE SPACE WHEN IT SEEM REAL NARROW



September 17, 2008 10:31 AM
 

PZdaPrinceI said:

Lil Wayne got two daddy's....that explains the tight pants and kissin boys.  LOL  Naw...I'm playin.

What's goin on AHH!  I see ya'll got a lil community goin on.  Ole buddy up top spit a whole episode of 24 for us, I appreciate it at 9:30am.

Ya'll stay up...and do you.  

SHALOM!
PZ
September 17, 2008 10:31 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

Bear Gryls is A legend, I always watch Him, if Im ever stuck in the wild I hope Im with Him.... or Alica Keys :-)

Em betta drop some new ish

Get Well Nate

Masta Ace and Em... WOAH that is finna Be *bananas* (LL Cool J Voice)
September 17, 2008 10:32 AM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

Tommy K said:
Question!: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic. Which is the better album?
Stillmatic IMO, Jay made Nas make a great album.  The album was full of meaningful songs, Poison was one of my favorites on there along with second childhood.  No disrespect to Blueprint because that was an epic joint but Nasir clearly won that battle, Jay eventually won the war though.  All in all I think they were both great albums.  As for the Life After vs All Eyes on Me, I can't call it.  This past weekend, the anniversary of Pac's death 92Q played like 45  minutes of straight Pac and when they started playin, picture me rollin I almost crashed my whip.  At the same time Life after had so many joints on it that I would have to declare a tie.  I would hate to see anything like that in HipHop again where we are divided by region......
September 17, 2008 10:33 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

DAME DASH FOR PRESIDENT!!!  BIGGS HOFFA FOR V.P.!!! FUCK KANUSSY (DAME BIRTHED YOU NIGGA)!!!
September 17, 2008 10:34 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

DAME DASH FOR PRESIDENT!!!  BIGGS HOFFA FOR V.P.!!! FUCK KANUSSY (DAME BIRTHED YOU NIGGA)!!!
September 17, 2008 10:34 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

DAME DASH FOR PRESIDENT!!!  BIGGS HOFFA FOR V.P.!!! FUCK KANUSSY (DAME BIRTHED YOU NIGGA)!!!
September 17, 2008 10:34 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

DAME DASH FOR PRESIDENT!!!  BIGGS HOFFA FOR V.P.!!! FUCK KANUSSY (DAME BIRTHED YOU NIGGA)!!!
September 17, 2008 10:34 AM
 

Boss Up said:

damn that snow bunny is annoying

ain't no niggas checkin for that LL joint

R.Kelly is a weird ass nigga...he might as well go catch himself a teenage bride from Thailand and that niggas music sucks...he don't even sing no more...he be rappin now...he ain't been hot since 'When A Womans Fed Up'
September 17, 2008 10:39 AM
 

Mac-A-Don said:

R.KELLY A DAMN FOOL WHAT KINDA GROWN ASS MAN DONT KNOW WHAT AGES TEENAGERS ARE HE SEEMED ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR REAL O WELL I CANT JUDGE THE MAN HE BETTER JUST MAKE SURE HE KEEPS UP THE MUSIC
September 17, 2008 10:41 AM
 

shelz said:

whoazzz.... did i actually get a shout?

**shelz does ed grimley happy dance**

thx tommy k...

and quisee, i totally agree.  i have no post today because i fell alseep on toure's zzzz-worthy line of questioning before i could email mr seed.  should have tivo'ed it.  much better than counting sheep.
September 17, 2008 10:44 AM
 

Knowl said:


SeanJohn81 said:
What's good AHH fam????

@Knowl,
have you heard from MEME yet??
-------------------------------------
Yeah yo. We spoke last night. Was on the phone for hours. I missed my Moon.... She lost power AGAIN this morning. I'm tight, but she has a car charger so I'll text her after lunch and speak to her after I get back from class tonight. We're great yo. Thanks for asking.
September 17, 2008 10:45 AM
 

JRucker said:

Boss Up said:

R.Kelly, he be rappin now...he ain't been hot since 'When A Womans Fed Up'
---------

So you're sayin Chocolate Factory, TP 3 Reloaded and Double Up were weak albums filled wit rappin and no singin? You should listen again... True, those albums were not as hot as TP2.com but they were all hot albums, better than most of the R&B that has been put out.
September 17, 2008 10:46 AM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

Yall like my avi?!? Hi haters, lmao!

...and now for my rumor corner
***drumroll***

Uh ok so guess who's next up on tha baby mama child support scandals?!?
I'll give yall one hint, he recently got married after VH1 ran two seasons of his show about him on a quest for love!!!!!

For those who said Flava Flav you guessed right! Here's the scoop:

Flavor Flav made a reported $5 million from his 3 seasons on VH1. That's enough money for him to upgrade his wardrobe, buy new jewelry and have a new house built for his finace and child.

But apparently that's not enough to have him live up to his child support obligations, according to one of his baby's mothers. According to a well placed MediaTakeOut.com snitch, Flav is set to go to family court in Albany, NY next week.

Flavor Flav is to appear in family court in Albany,NY,for failure to pay child support. This is the same person who claims that he takes care of his kids.(NOT).

Oh and get this he recently just had a house built in Las Vegas.


.....Why is there an edpidemic of women dragging men to court for money?!? It wouldn't look so bad if all these women weren't unemployed.....I heard somethin about Flav owing child support a long ass time ago tho, it was on that show that used to come on t.v. called Celebrity Justice...Im just sayin tho, he has kids like my age, please tell me this aint the mama of the children who are grown ass adults. Backpay my ass.......

Remember people you heard it first from me, MissD
September 17, 2008 10:46 AM
 

CLASSYBITCH said:

Sooo…I’m on vacation!!!

I’m in Texas spending my bday with my Dad and southern fam.

Taking a vacation from technology too w/ the exception of my phone.

Those who need to reach me know how..

Those who wanna reach use the yahoo e-mail/IM..

Be Safe and Good...i'll touch back on the 25th

KISSEZ,

The CLASSY One
September 17, 2008 10:47 AM
 

TaylorMade_TaylorBranded said:

What up MU$H, WILLEY KILLEM?, LT BROWN, KNOWL & MEME, BP1, BFG, HOTNUKNOWIT, C_A_K, KAPPAGEM, MissDallasTX214, VaGogetta, adopefemalemc, illseed and staff, Tommy K, aj22, and SEARS

********************************************
that man eatin that big ass Maggot was nasty.....

anybody got the link to that R/kelly interview???

@illseed    ay, the illseed quickie with news on the Stevie Wonder and the former backup singer/superhead yesterday still got me laughin.....nobody is exempt....lmao!!!

a ne-yo / micheal bolton colab is gay to the third power...lol


dam LL did worser than Fat Joe after one week???

September 17, 2008 10:48 AM
 

DJ TEKNISION said:

GOOD MORNING AHH FAM!!!

R KELLY REALLY NEED TO GO AWAY!!!

EMINEM IS SCRAPPING THE ALBUM?  WASN'T IT A FEW DAYS AGO 50 CENT SAID WE WILL SEE EM SOON?

http://djteknision.podOmatic.com
MIXES 4 EVERYONE!!
September 17, 2008 10:49 AM
 

CLASSYBITCH said:

Quote of the Day:  Love isn’t complicated if we love EXACTLY how we wish to be loved.

Useless Fact: Pulp Fiction cost $8 million to make - $5 million going to actor's salaries.

Random Question: Do you wake up or open your eyes first?


@ALL AHH <- Greetings and Salutations

@My Usual Suspects <- Blowing Kisses

MS LYRICAL aka Junegemini

}i{ aka BFG

TUPACFAN

MR SHAPIRO aka Five18P

KNOWLEDGE aka HoodProphet

MYOPINION

GUNOT_17

B*BRAZE – I’ll get u the party info for the 27th when I  get back

JUBILEE SHINE

DELVEC001

LXA

SIR RECAP aka jjgreenis

MARYJANESHUSBAND

QUEEN SHOUT-OUT aka C_A_K

BLACKSEAN – Missed you yesterday

THAT N____R JHAMAL – The break up is soo official

CHICAGO aka Chi Town Jay

PROFIT

MCCLINBA- Missing my waves

BEAUTIFUL AQUARIUS

CRESENT CITY CONNEKTOR

SAC_KING

HEMI

HUSTLINUPNORTH

JIGGAGIRL

KEN P – Hey u

FIZZROY

QGIZZLE 14

CHOCOLATE 1

CHICAGOLOVE

WILLY KILLEM – Where u been Papi?!?!

MACGARVIN

DEEDEEBABY

LTBROWN

J DUNGY- Be Safe

BLAQMAN99

EXEC- PRODUCER – Where’s my CD?

KILLA2THAB


I’ll touch back

KISSEZ,

The CLASSY One

Myspace.com/thatclassybitch
biiehustle@yahoo.com

September 17, 2008 10:49 AM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

@MissDallasTx214
Did you see the headline about the Wayne and Nivea jumpoff????  This would be a real bad look for all parties involved.  I feel bad for these dumb asses who think its cool to expose there personal lives....  What's poppin with you though, what I gotta do to get on that list????  I'll make that trip to to TX if needed.............LOL!!!!!
September 17, 2008 10:50 AM
 

Just_Rude said:

@ Tommy K

Man you know if you drive right columbia is only about 1 1/2 from Orangeburg... lol.. sorry you had to go through all that but you know what they say .. you gotta go through some hell to make it to heaven ..... and i hope you don't be ridin dirty on I-26 cause you know they be out there waiting ...

Keep ya head up .

and the answer to your question is Illmatic and all eyez on me are the better albums but that's just how i feel..
September 17, 2008 10:51 AM
 

Just_Rude said:

  MissDallasTx214 said:
Yall like my avi?!? Hi haters, lmao!

I won't like your avi until football season is over and the giants make t.o. cry again ... lol...

September 17, 2008 10:53 AM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

Hip Hop Album Sales: Week Ending 9/6/08
Rank  Artist Album     This Week      Est. Total
2     Young Jeezy Recession 89,941   350,510
7     The Game LAX            49,241    377,100
8     Lil Wayne Tha Carter III 47,345   2,409,995
9     LL Cool J Exit 13             43,645   43,762
14   Gym Class H.. Quilt             32,195   32,266
40   Kardinal Off....Not 4 Sale 11,869   11,911
41   Ice Cube Raw Footage 11,770   130,359
64   Nas             Untitled             7,758     380,419
67   Plies             Definition of Real 7,303     496,568
178  SlimTh.. Back By Blockular ...3,232    13,060
--------------------------------------------------
This shit is pathetic................................
September 17, 2008 11:03 AM
 

PoTHeAd420 said:

gudmorning to DA AHH FAM GOD bless yall have a safe and fruitful day
September 17, 2008 11:08 AM
 

bknewstash said:

fucc the cowboys.NY all day everyday.jets & giants.favre and manning running this shit.t.o isnt better than randy moss or reggie wayne or plaxico burress.stop it
September 17, 2008 11:08 AM
 

JRucker said:

  SeanJohn81 said:
Hip Hop Album Sales: Week Ending 9/6/08
Rank  Artist Album     This Week      Est. Total
2     Young Jeezy Recession 89,941   350,510
7     The Game LAX            49,241    377,100
8     Lil Wayne Tha Carter III 47,345   2,409,995
9     LL Cool J Exit 13             43,645   43,762
14   Gym Class H.. Quilt             32,195   32,266
40   Kardinal Off....Not 4 Sale 11,869   11,911
41   Ice Cube Raw Footage 11,770   130,359
64   Nas             Untitled             7,758     380,419
67   Plies             Definition of Real 7,303     496,568
178  SlimTh.. Back By Blockular ...3,232    13,060
--------------------------------------------------
This shit is pathetic................................
------

damn...
September 17, 2008 11:09 AM
 

Just_Rude said:

@   SeanJohn81 said:
Hip Hop Album Sales: Week Ending 9/6/08
Rank  Artist Album     This Week      Est. Total
2     Young Jeezy Recession  
7     The Game LAX            
8     Lil Wayne Tha Carter III
9     LL Cool J Exit 13          
14   Gym Class H.. Quilt        
40   Kardinal Off....Not 4 Sale  
41   Ice Cube Raw Footage  
64   Nas   Untitled            
67   Plies  Definition of Real  
178  SlimTh.. Back By Blockular ...  
-----------------------------------------------------------
I can honestly say i don't own any of these CD's .... but why are we looking at the numbers anyway most of these "rappers" don't even put out music you really want to listen to well i'm only speaking for myself and other's who feel like hearing more than beef drugs and "how much I got/what i got"...
September 17, 2008 11:15 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

WTF is Twitter?

i truly & completely fail 2 understand.

fa real.

all i could tell is its something hella retarded.






~BFG
September 17, 2008 11:16 AM
 

PoTHeAd420 said:

rumors were like stale cheetos
September 17, 2008 11:16 AM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

JRuck
What's poppin my dude?????  The recession is for real.  Wall Street is on that verge of collapsing.  These dumb asses keep tellin people we aint in no recession and we are weeks away fro the second great depression.  If the economy doesn't do well in the 4th quarter that will make 1 year of denial by the Bush administration.  
Check this shit out....  http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/17/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm?cnn=yes



Just_Rude, bknewstash, bkrepper and the rest of my Giant fans...  Don't sweat the bs, let the Cowgirls have there shine like they do every year and go home the first game of the playoffs.  They haven't won a playoff game in over a decade, we on the other hand win games when they matter.  

@MissDallasTx214
I am on my way back to Fort Worth at the end of the month and will be bringin you a gift.  That Superbowl MVP Eli jersey, what color do you want, home or away????  LOL...........

September 17, 2008 11:22 AM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

 SeanJohn81 said:
Tommy K said:
Question!: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic. Which is the better album?
Stillmatic IMO, Jay made Nas make a great album.  The album was full of meaningful songs, Poison was one of my favorites on there along with second childhood.  No disrespect to Blueprint because that was an epic joint but Nasir clearly won that battle, Jay eventually won the war though.  All in all I think they were both great albums.  As for the Life After vs All Eyes on Me, I can't call it.  This past weekend, the anniversary of Pac's death 92Q played like 45  minutes of straight Pac and when they started playin, picture me rollin I almost crashed my whip.  At the same time Life after had so many joints on it that I would have to declare a tie.  I would hate to see anything like that in HipHop again where we are divided by region......
September 17, 2008 10:33 AM  
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The Blueprint, that was too easy!!!!
Between All Eyez On Me and Life After Death I would have to say Pac because I didn't even start bumpin Biggie til he died. I hope that doesn't offend anyone but I wasn't into Biggie I was always a die hard Pac fan.......
September 17, 2008 11:23 AM
 

feelitall said:

I watched Rob's interview last night he didnt convice me that he was not guilty.  I feel that he dodge a lot of questions, gave half answers, and pointed the finger at a lot of people.  That being said he was found not guilty by a jury but we all know what it is
September 17, 2008 11:25 AM
 

Boss Up said:

'SeanJohn81'
yo i expected maybe that Game would've already went Gold he prolly won't hit that until early next year and he'll barely hit platinum he'll have to release that single wit Raheem Devaughn or Ne-Yo to get there though

and Jeezy's numbers are expected he'll go gold by December
September 17, 2008 11:27 AM
 

JRucker said:

SeanJohn81 said:
JRuck
What's poppin my dude?????  The recession is for real.  Wall Street is on that verge of collapsing.  These dumb asses keep tellin people we aint in no recession and we are weeks away fro the second great depression.  If the economy doesn't do well in the 4th quarter that will make 1 year of denial by the Bush administration.  
Check this shit out....  http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/17/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm?cnn=yes
-----

Peace fam!

No doubt, I been watchin this shit unfold all year. It is crazy how the republicans are sittin on their pedestals actin like everything is cool. Banks are going under, the largest insurer in the world just got bailed out... I don't know what they're seeing, maybe their "matress funds" will keep them safe, but for the rest of us, the shit is going to get worse and worse. Obama needs to jump all over this.
September 17, 2008 11:29 AM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

  SeanJohn81 said:
@MissDallasTx214
Did you see the headline about the Wayne and Nivea jumpoff????  This would be a real bad look for all parties involved.  I feel bad for these dumb asses who think its cool to expose there personal lives....  What's poppin with you though, what I gotta do to get on that list????  I'll make that trip to to TX if needed.............LOL!!!!!
September 17, 2008 10:50 AM  
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I forgot, Im sorry sweetheart, won't happen again!
Yes I was about to post that story next, lol. Why are we all thinking it's Nivea tho?!? Let's see what the other readers think......

"Lil Wayne may be getting a lot more shine in a few weeks. MediaFakeOut.com is hearing whispers that an explicit tape purportedly showing Lil Wayne is being shopped around by a group of men claiming to be his former friends.

The word on the street is that Weezy likes to use a camera phone during his "exploits" so he can show his boys the footage afterwards. And that somehow the footage fell into the wrong hands (or the right ones, depending on your perspective).

And there's more. According to a person who claims to have seen the, Wayne isn't the only celebrity in it. The insider told MediaFakeOut.com, "One of the women in the tape looks just like [an R&B singer that Weezy's constantly photographed with]. I can't swear its her, but it looks like her."



......well folks who do you think it is?!? The only singer I know of him being with is Nivea, but you know it could be Trina and they could be calling her a singer just to throw us off, however, since there's been rumors about Wayne and Dream talking to each other about her in their songs, I bet it's Nivea....your thoughts people??
Uh, why am I anxious to see the video tho?!? I want to know what Weezy has to attract such pretty ladies. : )
September 17, 2008 11:33 AM
 

Hood_princess20 said:

I know Kellz was deemed not guilty, but he had guilt all over the place in that interview. Mind you, not guilty is not the same as innocent.
......................................................................................

You ain't lyin on that one ill.......next thing you know he gonna come out with a book like OJ or somthing
September 17, 2008 11:41 AM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

Hey Guys!!!

I didn't know nothing about the R.Kelly interview, last night.  I was just channel surfing and found it on.  Question.  What did anyone expect out of the interview?  If R.Kelly was lying before, than he is not going to tell the truth, now.  Especially, when he was just free of all charges.  I thought Toure did a good job.  I liked his question, "Do you like teenagers?"  I thought that was funny and R.Kelly almost spilled the beans by saying "what kind of teenager?  I have 19 year old female friends."  I know 19 is legal, but how old is this dude, 50?  Its still creepy to me.  And i didn't know he fired his brother, either.  Didn't kellz try to put all this sex tape shit on his brother?  His bro might know to much.  Last, the pipe piper question (if you don't know what pipe piper means, google it).  Well, if R. Kelly didn't want anyone to call him that, then, why this fool is saying it in his videos?  For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LjgxXCsRek

Peace and more hair grease,

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
September 17, 2008 11:41 AM
 

Just_Rude said:

@MissDallasTx214 said:

The Blueprint, that was too easy!!!!
Between All Eyez On Me and Life After Death I would have to say Pac because I didn't even start bumpin Biggie til he died. I hope that doesn't offend anyone but I wasn't into Biggie I was always a die hard Pac fan.......
-----------------------------------------------------------
co sign 50%
i'll take nas over Jay anyday when it comes to a complete album..

and Pac is the best to do it all his albums had more songs that i would listen to then biggie....wow.. i'm actually agreeing with a dallas fan ... this is weird ..
September 17, 2008 11:43 AM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

@Diahann Carroll

Shut your old ass up!!!  I lost all respect for you.  You had to bring another well respected black actor down so you can get paid.  Shame on you.  I hope Sidney responds.  You, Faith, and Superhead need zip it.  If they didn't rape you, abuse you, or treat your child like crap, then you should keep all the negative shit to yourself.

Peace and more hair grease,

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
September 17, 2008 11:46 AM
 

Just_Rude said:

@   SeanJohn81 said:

Just_Rude, bknewstash, bkrepper and the rest of my Giant fans...  Don't sweat the bs, let the Cowgirls have there shine like they do every year and go home the first game of the playoffs.  They haven't won a playoff game in over a decade, we on the other hand win games when they matter.  
-----------------------------------------------------------
Thanks for the shout out ... but you know There no sunshine for the cowgirls ever.... if you let them shine now they'll want to try to shine later ...
September 17, 2008 11:50 AM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

@Hillary being VP

You know what, i'm going to co-sign with illseed.  But, there is some consequences to that move.  Instead of the spotlight being on Palin, it will be on Hillary.  Then, if Barack wins, the media will give all the credit to Hillary and not Barack or say something like "Barack wouldn't had won it without Hillary."  I wouldn't be cool with that, at all.  Wel, i hope this will be only be a rumor and not come a reality.

Peace and more hair grease,

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
September 17, 2008 11:51 AM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

@MissDallasTx214
It has 2 be Nivea because that attracts a story.  Nobody would care to see Trina anymore, she used to brag about being a local jumpoff when she rapped baddest b*****.  Nivea makes a triangle with Dream and people would like that story......


@JRucker
Obama should jump all over this today, Mccain thinks there is nothing wrong with the financial issues because his CEO buddies are getting 7 and 8 digit payoffs for driving companies into the ground.  We need reform right now, Pelosi said it best today when she said it's private gains when the risk takers profit but it's a public problem when they fail and the taxpayers have to front the bill....  We ain't never seen none of there profits but share there debt.  That shit don't sit well with me.  How much more do we need before the realize the republicans are behind this bs...  Where the fuck is MattDaddy?????


@Boss Up
I expect the same from Game, Nas just shot that video with Game and Chris Brown so they should both see some number increases.  Jeezy may not go plat this time around, I don't think he has anything commercial enough to put out and get play through the winter.  I know I am lovin this Heltah Skeltah album though, I am gonna buy a copy a week til Christmas, hopefully music for the masses will soon make a comeback and this bullshit on the radio will die.....



@Just_Rude
I post the numbers so we can have the option to debate album success and just polly on music that we all like.  I have the Nas, Game, and Cube album.  I like to see what different people have to say, the younger generation tates a rapper skill level by album sales unlike people on here who actually think for themselves and just speak on the music.  It's all love in here and hip hop all day......


September 17, 2008 11:52 AM
 

Just_Rude said:

@CLASSYBITCH said:
Random Question: Do you wake up or open your eyes first?
==============================================

wake up first that's why you can hear the t.v. if you left it on .. or someone yelling outside if your window is open....
September 17, 2008 11:53 AM
 

SirMayor said:

Whats good with FAM?? well anonther day anonther dollar here at International Business Machine!

Just wanted to give you all a few tidbits, so my daughters 5th Birthday party is coming up and I organized a skate party for her. How come I went and copped me a pair of Roller Blades like I was in 8th grade back in the Creek....I have been watching clips of Sweetness from Roll Bounce trying to get my moves right so I can stunt! Lmao should be a hella of a time...When is the last time anyone has been skating?
September 17, 2008 11:54 AM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

I MIGHT HAVTA TA FINALLY COP A JEEZY CD
I HEARD HE ON SOME POLITICAL SHIT

www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic
NEW TRACK 4 THEM SLAB RIDAZ
"BIG BODY BUICK" CHECK IT OUT
September 17, 2008 11:55 AM
 

mu$h da great said:

@tommy k - damn, thaz some bullshit.hope things work out in your favor if you do persue legal action. nas illmatic over the blueprint ........ I can't call it in regards to life after & all eyez on me. its to many thorough tracks on each one.

@shelz - wat up, lol @ ed grimely...

@knowl, ltbrown, taylormade, water,jrucker, seanjohn, missdallas, lxa,  missdallas, willy, hot, kappagem, tupacfan, htwnz colombi,twon - waz up wit it?

@salute - z-ro >>>>>>>>>>>>joe budden lol...... aside from that waz gud though?


lmao......ima have to catch that r.kelly intervue... on the raheem devaughn "serve you up" hostile take over remix when robert says "ladies when you see us @ the mall tip us" what is he talking about. somebody put me up on terminology. not pertaining to anything I was just curious.

elvis was a style jacking, song stealing pedophile as well.


@ a illy - ohio hip hop awards sept 20th ..... show the double o  some love & send a correspondent or have somebody  do a feature on some of our emerging artist like chip tha ripper, kid cudi, j-shuttles ray cash, corey bapes  etc. its  so cold in hog county too lol.

 
the midwest invasion will not be televised.
September 17, 2008 11:58 AM
 

Just_Rude said:

@  SeanJohn81 said:

@Just_Rude
I post the numbers so we can have the option to debate album success and just polly on music that we all like.  I have the Nas, Game, and Cube album.  I like to see what different people have to say, the younger generation tates a rapper skill level by album sales unlike people on here who actually think for themselves and just speak on the music.  It's all love in here and hip hop all day......
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I feel you on that.....
September 17, 2008 11:58 AM
 

JRucker said:

 SeanJohn81 said:


@JRucker
Obama should jump all over this today, Mccain thinks there is nothing wrong with the financial issues because his CEO buddies are getting 7 and 8 digit payoffs for driving companies into the ground.  We need reform right now, Pelosi said it best today when she said it's private gains when the risk takers profit but it's a public problem when they fail and the taxpayers have to front the bill....  We ain't never seen none of there profits but share there debt.  That shit don't sit well with me.  How much more do we need before the realize the republicans are behind this bs...  Where the fuck is MattDaddy?????  
------------

Here are some interesting thoughts on the idea of free-market capitalism being on the ropes or not...

http://www.politico.com/arena/

Mattd must've lost some money somewhere between freddy, fanny and aig... he is rethinking this gop thing after all.
September 17, 2008 11:59 AM
 

Haughville said:

what it is hip hoppas?!

@diahann carroll - smh, that's cold....some shit, just take it to the grave...

@hillary for vp - wow...i bet that scares'em....

@eminem/masta ace - good to see em' fuckin' with a true veteran lyricist like dat...sounds like these cats have some sincere admiration for one anothers work.

rumors was kinda' slow....
shout outs to all the real hip hop soldiers...ya'll know who ya' are...and if you questionin' if i mean you, probably not! lol
September 17, 2008 12:00 PM
 

SPATE Magazine All Day said:

What a crazy world we live in

http://www.spatemag.com
SPATE MAGAZINE WAS HERE

MaddMann Wins Most Original Artist At UMA's
http://www.maddmannmusic.imeem.com
http://www.maddmannfans.ning.com
http://www.myspace.com/madmanhiphop

MaddMann The Documentary Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/spatetv
September 17, 2008 12:03 PM
 

Mightydog said:

@ Illseed the word you were looking for is scrapped, not scraped fyi
September 17, 2008 12:07 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

chicagolove said:
sears tower on the other page was that f.u.c.k.u attendent for me?
September 17, 2008 8:15 AM



NOPE!

I WAS JUST FUCKIN AROUND..

WE COOL PIMPIN
CHICAGO
WE RUN THIS BITCH
September 17, 2008 12:11 PM
 

PhuckDatt said:

lets pray for nate dog! didn't know it was his 2nd stroke.
September 17, 2008 12:19 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

HIP HOP IS DEAD

THANKS SEAN JOHN
September 17, 2008 12:19 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

Em n Masta Ace been fuckin wit each other, Royce used to be signed to his label back in the day. I forgot the name of the same Ace n Em did together, but its banannas. ima look it up
September 17, 2008 12:20 PM
 

Balian said:

illseed said:"Poprah from "I Want To Work For Diddy" fame used to be a very thinly shaped dime!"


Yah right!!!!!!!! She's fuckin nasty EEWWW!!!! that girl is so damn annoying and fake she's like the fat version of New York





-----------------------
"Home Alone the Lp"
produced, performed, and written by: Balian

NOW Available for free mp3 Download just click the link below to download it!!


http://www.4shared.com/dir/9061928/8d452caa/sharing.html




This album is straight Hip-Hop in it's purest form I ain't lying. Click my name above to listen to some of the tracks.






"This will be one of the illest albums to drop this year and will change the industry and how people get in it. The production on this album is so dope it's full of so much soul you can't help but wanna listen to it"
- Balian

“My production is similar to 9th Wonder & Kanye I would say…..no joke”
-Balian






and help Get Me On The Breeding Ground
September 17, 2008 12:21 PM
 

DontDieDontKillAnyone said:

Illseed and his rumours: never on schedule but always on time. Bless up to ya
September 17, 2008 12:21 PM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

WORKS OUT PEACE
September 17, 2008 12:26 PM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

@Sears Tower
Those numbers are horrible, people need to start supporting good music.  Wayne has the britney spears fan base along with teenage urban kids which is why his numbers look like we back in 98 or something.  
September 17, 2008 12:27 PM
 

mu$h da great said:

@bfg - waz up? I trying to figure out what twitter is too.


obama & hillary???......... sure they would garner  a lot of votes/support but I don't want to see him win like that. I'd rather he make things happen without her. she's a prisoner of circumstance right now. obama should just let her sleep in the bed she made. & this palin character, she doing a good enough job make herself look bad .... to those who are really paying attention.



chip tha ripper ft. kid cudi - ask about me

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PXggOcUibWQ&client=mv-google&warned=1&gl=US&hl=en
September 17, 2008 12:28 PM
 

mu$h da great said:

@bfg - waz up? I trying to figure out what twitter is too.


obama & hillary???......... sure they would garner  a lot of votes/support but I don't want to see him win like that. I'd rather he make things happen without her. she's a prisoner of circumstance right now. obama should just let her sleep in the bed she made. & this palin character, she doing a good enough job make herself look bad .... to those who are really paying attention.



chip tha ripper ft. kid cudi - ask about me

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PXggOcUibWQ&client=mv-google&warned=1&gl=US&hl=en
September 17, 2008 12:29 PM
 

mu$h da great said:

@bfg - waz up? I trying to figure out what twitter is too.


obama & hillary???......... sure they would garner  a lot of votes/support but I don't want to see him win like that. I'd rather he make things happen without her. she's a prisoner of circumstance right now. obama should just let her sleep in the bed she made. & this palin character, she doing a good enough job make herself look bad .... to those who are really paying attention.



chip tha ripper ft. kid cudi - ask about me

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PXggOcUibWQ&client=mv-google&warned=1&gl=US&hl=en
September 17, 2008 12:29 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

JAYZ>>>PAC

NAS>>>>PAC

KISS>>>>PAC

STYLES>>>PC

RANSOM>>>PAC

TRAV (TEAM ARLISS)>>>>PAC

BIG L>>>>PAC
September 17, 2008 12:33 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

JAYZ>>>PAC

NAS>>>>PAC

KISS>>>>PAC

STYLES>>>PC

RANSOM>>>PAC

TRAV (TEAM ARLISS)>>>>PAC

BIG L>>>>PAC
September 17, 2008 12:33 PM
 

JUANITA CASH HAWKINS said:

AYYYYYYYYYYY ILLSEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

'preciate you givin my boy shad some play and shit, but can i get a finders fee or somethin?!?! i wanna see 50 e-bucks ('$') in the next set of rumors with my name on it OR ELSE!!!!!!

September 17, 2008 12:37 PM
 

Gold Mind said:

dont really care for the rumors today..but i do care about the people as of right now. please check this link everyone..

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/16/news/companies/AIG/?postversion=2008091710

the government loans 85 Billion to the nations top insurer AIG..expect to pay up for the next 2 years for when AIG has to pay that 85B back..

this is gettin scary..
September 17, 2008 12:41 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Blueprint 3>Stillmatic.....all day

All Eyez On Me = Life After Death

These are a tie for me, because I actually do like both artists.  11 years ago I would have said All Eyez EASILY, but I was a die hard Pac fan who would "occassionally" bump some Biggie.  That Life After Death was amazing though....so they are a tie for me.

R. Kelly - Didn't even know that was on.  I was too busy building my empire

Barack taking on Hillary as a VP...

Is it getting THAT scary in this election?  If it happens, it happens.  I'm voting for Obama regardless...and if all these people are TRULY scurrying to elect McCain due to him picking Palin as a VP, then our country is truly in shambles, and we need to pick up and move to another place.  I'm so sincere when I say that if our country elects McCain, then I will be ashamed of this country, will burn an American Flag, and will be 100% ANTI American, because I couldn't possibly be proud of where we are NOW vs. where we are going (with Republicans at the helm).

And to those of you who DO vote for McCain, I actually hope you find yourself azz-raped in a prison somewhere by the same sex...because you are truly GAY.

I just don't get how people can see the economy is THE WORST it has been in like 7 years (personally, it's the worst I can remember in my own lifetime), and yet, we would even CONSIDER electing McCain...that's some crackhead ish...

@Tommy - That is one crazy azz story.  Oh, and we have a "Darkside" meeting here in Columbus that my boy does, but it has NOTHING to do with the kind of stuff ya'll are doing.  I do wonder where he got the name "Darkside" from though?  I might have to "check" his azz later...

alright, I'm out...I'm hella tired from that Indy drive...I wanna go home!

Go Colts
Go Cowboys
Go Lakers

Get 'em...
September 17, 2008 12:44 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

@ Knowl

Thanks man, I really appreciate that. I know that we all go through things in life and that life is merely a test so I’m not worried about it. The thing that gets to me is the fact that why would they waist time questioning me and people I know when they supposedly got other leads. Idk, but I do plan on giving them hell believe that. I already got a lawyer on it. They done messed up now.

Back at you MissDallasTx214

@ T-ROC

Yea That’s a lot in these times lol. I can get a bill n a half paid! Lol

@ hotnuknowit

What’s up?, I missed-ded you too lol. Man the Colts have been making me mad yo with those simple mistakes. I hope they get better as the season goes along…

SaluateYaGeneral said:

BRING BACK THA A-TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and

FUCK THE IC!!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------

Your still gay but I can agree with these two statements

@ Shellz

No prob, you deserve it. I never noticed you actually posting a comment before though…

@ Just_Rude

To tell you the truth, the way I drive it takes me about a hour lol. Your not lying about them being out there on I-26 though. This one girl I know got caught trafficking a few 100 pounds of weed a few months back on 26.

I have to say that the Cowboys vs. the Egals was the best game so far this year.

I will be back later, almost time for lunch...

Oh yea, please remember everyone… It’s Tommy K. please say the .
September 17, 2008 12:46 PM
 

Young BRINK! said:

R Kelly looks so Rejuvenated, & his hair line hasnt suffered!
He needs to share his secret with Jaimie Fox!

I Beleive him though...

But My Tummy Gun Dont!!!! lol

@ Dame Dash
You got a 16 year old kid? dont tell me you're in the 40+ Club???

@ LL Cool J's sales
I'm sad to see that, & I hope Nelly's arent as disappointing.

@ Twitter
Fuck a twitter!
But watch it turns into a phenomenon!
Sometimes I hate the internet. LOL

@ Poprah
That sucks that she used to be skinny,
she got a pretty face,
but a bad attitude.
But a good work ethic.

@ Irv Gotti
I will be watching season 2
His wife/ex is a FOX!

@ Houston Rappers
Can we unite NOW please???

@ Will Smith
Lets thank our lucky stars...
oh wait we dont do that lucky stars stuff!
Thank God!

Shout outs to
Tommy K
C_A_K
LILAILO
Hotnuknowit
LTBROWN

Dont cheat yourself, Treat yourself to some Young BRINK!
http://www.myspace.com/youngbrink1
September 17, 2008 12:48 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

*Eagles
September 17, 2008 12:49 PM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

I don't understand the Hype around R.Kelly.
Just because you have crazy laws in the states,
you judge a brother a criminal? Weak.
He didn't rape nobody, so what the heck.
It's 2008 and you have young girls who wanna fuck
with superstars. That's reality. Any place in the world
young girls are dreaming of having sex with their superstar.
if they don't fuck with R. Kelly the will fuck with B and C
stars.

@Tommy K: Welcome back !!!
September 17, 2008 12:49 PM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

Just_Rude said:
@MissDallasTx214 said:

The Blueprint, that was too easy!!!!
Between All Eyez On Me and Life After Death I would have to say Pac because I didn't even start bumpin Biggie til he died. I hope that doesn't offend anyone but I wasn't into Biggie I was always a die hard Pac fan.......
-----------------------------------------------------------
co sign 50%
i'll take nas over Jay anyday when it comes to a complete album..

and Pac is the best to do it all his albums had more songs that i would listen to then biggie....wow.. i'm actually agreeing with a dallas fan ... this is weird ..
September 17, 2008 11:43 AM
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lmao @ agree 50% uh okay, I like Jay better than Nas so that's why I feel the Blueprint was a better album..one of my fav cd's of all time : )
What do you mean you're agreeing with a Dallas fan? Im no fan, I am Dallas, lol!!!!!!
@ mu$h da great, I forgot you on my shout out list, I knew someone was missing, where you been at?!? My bad fam, you know it's all love...I been good btw, how are you?!?
September 17, 2008 12:50 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Hey Sears....

Who is that in the AVI???

Lil Wayne STILL outselling kats that are dropping albums...

lol

SeanJohn81 said:
Hip Hop Album Sales: Week Ending 9/6/08
Rank  Artist Album     This Week      Est. Total
2     Young Jeezy Recession 89,941   350,510
7     The Game LAX            49,241    377,100
8     Lil Wayne Tha Carter III 47,345   2,409,995
9     LL Cool J Exit 13             43,645   43,762
14   Gym Class H.. Quilt             32,195   32,266
40   Kardinal Off....Not 4 Sale 11,869   11,911
41   Ice Cube Raw Footage 11,770   130,359
64   Nas             Untitled             7,758     380,419
67   Plies             Definition of Real 7,303     496,568
178  SlimTh.. Back By Blockular ...3,232    13,060
--------------------------------------------------
This shit is pathetic................................


I'm really mad Nas has only sold 380K.  I thought that ablum truly was on point.  

Jeezy doing pretty nice, and Game is edging closer to that 500K I thought he would never do (not by end of this year anyways).  We'll see...
September 17, 2008 12:51 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:
I don't understand the Hype around R.Kelly.
Just because you have crazy laws in the states,
you judge a brother a criminal? Weak.
He didn't rape nobody, so what the heck.
It's 2008 and you have young girls who wanna fuck
with superstars. That's reality. Any place in the world
young girls are dreaming of having sex with their superstar.
if they don't fuck with R. Kelly the will fuck with B and C
stars.

@Tommy K: Welcome back !!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I hear you pimpin, but that girl in the vid was like 14 or some sh*t.  That is disgusting...I don't care if it was even the norm back in the day, or in ancient times...today, our society, that sh*t is nasty as f*ck.  Now, 19 year olds?  That's actually legal:)
September 17, 2008 12:53 PM
 

Ken_Masters said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXg55NYHazE

ther it go, Em, Masta Ace and Some otherdude, they Freaked the original Soul Calibur beat. its called Hellbound, shits disgustin

check it out
September 17, 2008 12:54 PM
 

JUANITA CASH HAWKINS said:

@ saluateyageneral:

i dont understsnd you.
September 17, 2008 12:55 PM
 

JUANITA CASH HAWKINS said:

@ saluateyageneral:

i dont understsnd you.
September 17, 2008 12:55 PM
 

JUANITA CASH HAWKINS said:

@ saluateyageneral:

i dont understsnd you.
September 17, 2008 12:55 PM
 

JUANITA CASH HAWKINS said:

@ saluateyageneral:

i dont understsnd you.
September 17, 2008 12:55 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

no fa real.

what was that Twitter thing about?

that she was crazy?

couldnt understand 1/2 of what she was even sayin.



and damn,

since the IC came back its been quiet around here.

pros & cons 2 dat.

btw i gotta complaint bout the IC.

the format of the forums is hella wack for 1.

and all my drops are fucked all up.

cant even read but a few lines.

im bout to just delete them and start anew i guess.

i just dont wanna delete all those comments.

i got hella memories from them.



well damn Tommy K.

1st let me say that im sorry for the loss of ur friend/DJ.

and also that Agent Smith & nem

hemmed up tryna interrogate u.

i know that was beyond offensive and frustrating.

also wanna say thnx for getting back 2 me,

no worries bout the time.

im impressed by ur participation in the development

of this organization:

S.A.T.O. Darkside,

that would mean u were about 16 when yall started it up huh?

wow.

u must be proud of how its grown over time.

i like yall mission/vision, as well,

i been rather focused on such deeper self-awareness,

myself, lately.

so i mos def see the importance of what yall doin,

esp. w/in communities of color

cause this is often where u see the greatest disparity

in terms of the information gap.

but yeah, as far as Block-Busta,

alright i gotcha.

see ur logic behind that.

thas whas up.

preciate the breakdown.






~BFG
September 17, 2008 12:56 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

@ Mu$h....heyyyyy!
I don't know what R-ra Kelly was talking about in that song but did you catch the part where he said if a chick is thirsty he had some real good lemonade for her? He is just NASTY!!!
September 17, 2008 12:59 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

asher where are you at in the world? geographically.

tommy singh, hit me with that one time.
ay i made a east indian flavoured beat called "crab rappers".
it's at 88 bpm.
i'll throw it up for you.

but we still gotta go through beatnuts, large professor, easy mo bee and muggs, tho.



ay peace to all the gods and earths. y'all beautiful. all this is yours.



seanjohn.

assignment: do you have the numbers for illmatic, long live the kane and by all means necessary?

i'm under the distinct impression that true hip hop never did big numbers like that anyway.

we hurt our music when we mislabel the wack shit as hip hop.
September 17, 2008 1:04 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

@Kappagem said:
Blueprint 3>Stillmatic.....all day

All Eyez On Me = Life After Death

These are a tie for me, because I actually do like both artists.  11 years ago I would have said All Eyez EASILY, but I was a die hard Pac fan who would "occassionally" bump some Biggie.  That Life After Death was amazing though....so they are a tie for me.
-------------------------------------------------------------

I understand .. i mean biggie has good music but none of his albums touch on as many topics as 2pac's
September 17, 2008 1:05 PM
 

collision said:

      BEST PRODUCER/ARTIST IN DETROIT
                7 MILE EASTWOOD !!!!
 http://www.myspace.com/collisionthaproducer          
 http://www.youtube.com/collision7musiq
 http://www.myspace.com/collisiontracks      

BEST PRODUCER/ARTIST IN DETROIT
                7 MILE EASTWOOD !!!!
 http://www.myspace.com/collisionthaproducer          
 http://www.youtube.com/collision7musiq
 http://www.myspace.com/collisiontracks      

BEST PRODUCER/ARTIST IN DETROIT
                7 MILE EASTWOOD !!!!
 http://www.myspace.com/collisionthaproducer          
 http://www.youtube.com/collision7musiq
 http://www.myspace.com/collisiontracks      

BEST PRODUCER/ARTIST IN DETROIT
                7 MILE EASTWOOD !!!!
 http://www.myspace.com/collisionthaproducer          
 http://www.youtube.com/collision7musiq
 http://www.myspace.com/collisiontracks  
September 17, 2008 1:08 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

@MissDallasTx214 said
lmao @ agree 50% uh okay, I like Jay better than Nas so that's why I feel the Blueprint was a better album..one of my fav cd's of all time : )
What do you mean you're agreeing with a Dallas fan? Im no fan, I am Dallas, lol!!!!!!
------------------------------------------------------------
i can understand that choice of jay over nas... everyone is entitled to like what they want....

and you may be dallas .. but your football team still suck
September 17, 2008 1:08 PM
 

digitaldre said:

LOL @ 20 motherfuckers thinking they were first because of this
bootleg ass server....when is the ill community coming back those nerdy white boys got you niggas shook LOL!

GIVE US ILL COMMUNITY NOW ITS BEEN 4 MONTHS MAYNE!

ODEISEL PUT DOWN THE DONUTS AND GET BUSY NUGGA!


PEACE!
September 17, 2008 1:10 PM
 

daz156 said:

SLAUGHTAHOUSE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST ALBUMS EVER.

"I GOT THE MAD KNIFE, I'M MAD MEAN,
I KILL MAD CREWS, I READ MAD MAGAZINE !!!!"

EM GETS PROPS FOR TRYIN TO EDUCATE/INFLUENCE HIS FANS INTO SOME HIP HOP HISTORY.....SHOUTS TO ACE, WHEN YOU DROPPING SOMETHING NEW, I KNOW YOU GOTTA BE KIDDIN ABOUT HANGING THAT MIC UP.....

YOSUMI........WRAP IT UP, I'M COMIN TO GET IT...I STUDIED UNDER BRUCE LEE.....LOL CLASSIC



September 17, 2008 1:12 PM
 

that N____R Jhamal said:

@ BP1 Diamond D has new joint coming out Oct14th called the Hugh Heffner Chronicles
September 17, 2008 1:12 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

THAT WHITE GUY WAS NASTY AS FUCK WITH THAT BUG EXPLODING IN HIS MOUTH.

BARACK VS. CURTIS LOOK STUPID. I DON'T GET IT.

I CAN SEE THAT DNC THING HAPPENING. THAT WILL BE CRAZY AS HELL.

September 17, 2008 1:14 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

@ Tommy K. said:

To tell you the truth, the way I drive it takes me about a hour lol. Your not lying about them being out there on I-26 though. This one girl I know got caught trafficking a few 100 pounds of weed a few months back on 26.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Damn that's not good cause them boys don't play... i hope she's alright ....
September 17, 2008 1:15 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

*pops Tommy K on tha back of tha head* wuttup nigga
*smooches Adopefemalemc on tha cheek* wuttup gorgeous ;)

That guy that ate the beetle larva.....SICK!!!!!!!! hella nasty dog that shit made me sick to my stomach especially when it busted and the guts flew on the screen and shit ughhghghghghghghg!!!!!!

Sarah Palin can get it.

Annnnddd the rest of tha rumors was kinda weak.. :(
September 17, 2008 1:16 PM
 

raynestizzy said:

No disrespect to anyone, but im happy Will Smith isnt a Scientologist.

SMFH @ R. "My Dick is Pissy and Smelly" Kelly

EMINEM DROP THAT F@@KIN ALBUM MAN!!

I think Obama should have picked Hillary... but I understand why he didnt...

*******FREE ALBUM DOWNLOAD*******
Rayne Storm - The Unkrowned King (Remastered Edition)HERE!
HTTP://WWW.MEDIAFIRE.COM/?E9GMWELIJFI

HTTP://WWW.RAYNESTORMMUSIC.COM
HTTP://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/RAYNESTORMMUSIC
September 17, 2008 1:20 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

@  Kappagem said:
SeanJohn81 said:
Hip Hop Album Sales: Week Ending 9/6/08
Rank  Artist Album     This Week      Est. Total
2     Young Jeezy Recession 89,941   350,510
7     The Game LAX            49,241    377,100
8     Lil Wayne Tha Carter III 47,345   2,409,995
9     LL Cool J Exit 13             43,645   43,762
14   Gym Class H.. Quilt             32,195   32,266
40   Kardinal Off....Not 4 Sale 11,869   11,911
41   Ice Cube Raw Footage 11,770   130,359
64   Nas             Untitled             7,758     380,419
67   Plies             Definition of Real 7,303     496,568
178  SlimTh.. Back By Blockular ...3,232    13,060
--------------------------------------------------
This shit is pathetic................................


I'm really mad Nas has only sold 380K.  I thought that ablum truly was on point.  

Jeezy doing pretty nice, and Game is edging closer to that 500K I thought he would never do (not by end of this year anyways).  We'll see...
-------------------------------------------------------------

Game is better than plies and he's almost at 500K so game should get it ...

To me neither one of them really hit 500K in my book
September 17, 2008 1:20 PM
 

jamaican_pimp said:

I hope obama does not go to hillary.  don't think things will be good that way.  i don't trust her and bill.  they seem to want to be in the white house to bad.  some how they gonna get that top spot if that happens.  
told you eminem's album might be like detox... We'll see if we see it.  
I wish the government would give me a bail out package like that.  i don't even need 85 billion.  give me 10 stacks and i'll flip that shit and be good.  i'll even pay back in half the time.

yo that man vs wild is always crazy.  that show is cool though.  nigga always be eating and drinkin crazy shit.  one time he bit the head off a snake. definitly one of the shows i got my dvr set for.
September 17, 2008 1:22 PM
 

mu$h da great said:

@missdallas -chillin......  I'm great though...... lol, thanks for asking .


@hot - I caught that lemonade shit too lmao...... like. damn this nigga really had the audacity to say that...

@cak - waz up?
September 17, 2008 1:23 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

jhamal.
yep. i saw that yesterday.

i left a comment on that page.
did you see where one of the posters put the link up to the new song
d-i-a-m-o-n-d?
it was youtube?

i listened to that jawn. the beat was triflin.
that shit remind me of the beatnuts jawn "watch out now" or the pete rock big l jawn with the flutes, "holdin it down".
September 17, 2008 1:29 PM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

Just_Rude said:
@MissDallasTx214 said
lmao @ agree 50% uh okay, I like Jay better than Nas so that's why I feel the Blueprint was a better album..one of my fav cd's of all time : )
What do you mean you're agreeing with a Dallas fan? Im no fan, I am Dallas, lol!!!!!!
------------------------------------------------------------
i can understand that choice of jay over nas... everyone is entitled to like what they want....

and you may be dallas .. but your football team still suck
September 17, 2008 1:08 PM
---------------------------------------------------
...that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion, but they're not called "America's fav team" for nothin!!! Also, the tickets are sold out for the rest of tha season so Im not the only one who loves them. It's okay tho, Im from tha south so Im used to critism and negativity yanno?!? For some reason people are always disliking Texans and our teams, we dont care tho, just wish people would stop movin here : )
September 17, 2008 1:30 PM
 

JUANITA CASH HAWKINS said:

Just_Rude said:
@Kappagem said:
Blueprint 3>Stillmatic.....all day

All Eyez On Me = Life After Death

These are a tie for me, because I actually do like both artists.  11 years ago I would have said All Eyez EASILY, but I was a die hard Pac fan who would "occassionally" bump some Biggie.  That Life After Death was amazing though....so they are a tie for me.
-------------------------------------------------------------

I understand .. i mean biggie has good music but none of his albums touch on as many topics as 2pac's


-------------------------------------------------------------

as a die hard biggie fan, that was prolly the best explaination i've heard as to why somebody would prefer pac over big...thanks.


*for the record i still hate all this 'worship' of him that goes on. for real, he was an imperfect human being, he embraced that, and thats how he would want to be remembered.
September 17, 2008 1:30 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

whats good Mush?

yeah im lost on that 1.

but i guess i shudnt waste my mental energy on it

any longer no way,

cause that chick made me uncomfortable. LOL

maaan.

sup wit u tho?




and Gold Mind,

yeah i saw about that last night initially

when it was just like a 2-3 paragraph announcement article.

hella bland and nonchalant.

no details.

they are stating that the Government is loaning AIG

$85 million or billion, SMH whatever it is...

does it even matter? ugggh.

but this was a statement coming from the Federal Reserve:

that the US GOVERNMENT is loaning this money.

so whats that mean?

"The Fed" bout to print another 85 billion dollars for the US

to loan to AIG?

which The US then owes to them?

"The Fed" as they were callin it in the very brief article

last night.

i knew i should have posted it so yall could see.

dang.

but so anyway, that was of course,

an article from the Associated Press.

associated w/ who what when where & why??????

folks still talkin bout if, or even when,

something gon happen.

its already happening...again.

and its amazing how these wealthy folks

are just losing everything.

hmmm.

thats a trip.

they just aint gon know what to do either.

gon b jumpin out windows and stuff in a min.

HIS-story repeats itself:

the game remains the same only the faces change.





~BFG
September 17, 2008 1:32 PM
 

JRucker said:

I think ya'll takin the R Kelly lemonade piece the wrong way... He was tryin to say if a (young) lady was thirsty, meaning horny, he could quench that horny-ness for her the same way lemonade quenches one's thirst when they are thirsty or dehydrated. Just cuz lemonade is yellow like piss doesnt mean he is trying to illude to that. mmmkay?
September 17, 2008 1:38 PM
 

that N____R Jhamal said:

 
BlackPeople 1 said:
jhamal.
yep. i saw that yesterday.

i left a comment on that page.
did you see where one of the posters put the link up to the new song
d-i-a-m-o-n-d?
it was youtube?

i listened to that jawn. the beat was triflin.
that shit remind me of the beatnuts jawn "watch out now" or the pete rock big l jawn with the flutes, "holdin it down".

----
i checked out the song eh...i do like Kool Keith's new one though..maybe i'm in a nostalgia mood
September 17, 2008 1:38 PM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

  hotnuknowit said:
@ Mu$h....heyyyyy!
I don't know what R-ra Kelly was talking about in that song but did you catch the part where he said if a chick is thirsty he had some real good lemonade for her? He is just NASTY!!!
September 17, 2008 12:59 PM  
----------------------------------------------------
lmaoooooooooo
September 17, 2008 1:41 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

JRucker said:
I think ya'll takin the R Kelly lemonade piece the wrong way... He was tryin to say if a (young) lady was thirsty, meaning horny, he could quench that horny-ness for her the same way lemonade quenches one's thirst when they are thirsty or dehydrated. Just cuz lemonade is yellow like piss doesnt mean he is trying to illude to that. mmmkay?
************************************************
Hey JRucker!
I'm not taking it the wrong way.....the wrong dude said that verse! I mean come on....what was he thinking???
September 17, 2008 1:43 PM
 

JUANITA CASH HAWKINS said:

September 17, 2008 1:44 PM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

 JRucker said:
I think ya'll takin the R Kelly lemonade piece the wrong way... He was tryin to say if a (young) lady was thirsty, meaning horny, he could quench that horny-ness for her the same way lemonade quenches one's thirst when they are thirsty or dehydrated. Just cuz lemonade is yellow like piss doesnt mean he is trying to illude to that. mmmkay?
September 17, 2008 1:38 PM  
------------------------------------------------------
mmmkay but if I was just on trial for pissing on someone's teenage daughter I don't think I would make any reference to lemonade or piss period, ya dig?!?
September 17, 2008 1:45 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

ay 518 and husslin.

don't the us produce enough oil for it's self?
isn't the dependency on foreign oil for the u.s. allies?


all of y'all.
what do y'all think has more direct, instant sway and influence over black people?

hip hop music or politics?




dallas, why you think people always "hating on the south" with the criticism and negativity?


also who else in here from the country with an accent?
September 17, 2008 1:46 PM
 

Barack yOmama said:

@LL'S RECORDS SALES, UR SHITZ SELLIN LIKE GOAT MILK! ITZ BOUT TIME 2 HANG IT UP! EXIT 13, AIN'T NOBODY GONE SIGN U, NOT EVEN KOCH!

@R.KELL, YEA U RUNNIN ROUND LIKE DA PIED PIPPER NOW, U WILL SLIP UP W/ UR CRAVIN 4 TEENS. U DONE IN DA GAME MAN. STICK 2 PRODUCTION & WRITING!

@SARAH (THE PALE HORSE) PALIN, UR ANSWER 2 OUR GAS PROBLEMS IS DRILLIN 4 MORE OIL. DUMB MF'ER, WE HAV NEW TECHNOLOGY WHERE WE CAN USE WATER 4 FUEL. Y KILL THE PLANET MORE. GREEDY OIL MONKEY REPUBLICANS

@KANYE, LOVE LOCKDOWN IS A DISGRACE 2 HIP HOP, IF U GONE USE DA VOCODER, FREAK SUM SHIT NOT MAKE IT GAYER.

@GILBERT ARENAS, GAWDAM NIGGA U HAD ALL SUMMER 2 GET SURGERY, Y U WANNA FUCK UP THE WIZARDS ANOTHER YEAR.

@BABY OF CASHMONEY, I DONT NO HOW U CALL A GROWN AZZ MAN UR SON. STILL SOUNDS HOMO!
September 17, 2008 1:49 PM
 

JRucker said:

@ hotnuknowit & MissDallasTx214

lmao!!! I was really just joking... I know that verse is suspect as hell! I was just throwin some bs out there like he did last night in that interview. Peace ladies!!!
September 17, 2008 1:55 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

ay so BP i didnt get to answer ur question last night.

but b4 i do,

leave Keak alone. :|



but ay i wasnt gon badger youngsta or nothin.

just thought it'd be interesting.

but okay i gotta refute just based on the fact of

how u phrased the question.

cause sexual harassment implies that

the person being harassed is offended by another's

advances, actions, or behavior.

i dont think too many men are offended by

a female showin her ass.

so i cant call it sexual harrassment, reverse or otherwise.

but i agree with what ur gettin at,

females who be on that are/appear 2 be

purposefully attempting to appeal to

mens weaker sensibilities.

as an affirmation of value thru attn.

can be, and is usually, a manifestation of low self-esteem

or self-worth.

but it is also noteworthy to consider the societal influence

on girls/women.

our socialization process is rooted in our worth and value

being based upon beauty and sex appeal.

and the messages are reinforced on a daily basis.

now far as what yall posed to do?

hahahahahaha

i say its always a good thing to dispel myths...

and integrity is always a nice thing

to keep in ur back pocket.

but u know, thats just me. (shrugs)






~BFG
September 17, 2008 1:58 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

@JUANITA CASH HAWKINS said:
Just_Rude said:
I understand .. i mean biggie has good music but none of his albums touch on as many topics as 2pac's
-------------------------------------------------------------
as a die hard biggie fan, that was prolly the best explaination i've heard as to why somebody would prefer pac over big...thanks.

*for the record i still hate all this 'worship' of him that goes on. for real, he was an imperfect human being, he embraced that, and thats how he would want to be remembered.
------------------------------------------------------------
Your welcome ... and i don't think that he should be worshiped either to me he was just a great MC/Storyteller.

Rappers are what we have today..."plies, Rick Ross, T.I., Young Jeezy, lil wayne, etc.
September 17, 2008 2:01 PM
 

DonLevon said:

@bfg - waz up? I trying to figure out what twitter is too.


obama & hillary???......... sure they would garner  a lot of votes/support but I don't want to see him win like that. I'd rather he make things happen without her. she's a prisoner of circumstance right now. obama should just let her sleep in the bed she made. & this palin character, she doing a good enough job make herself look bad .... to those who are really paying attention.  ( thats the thing my nig them honkeys downsouth aint paying attention and they not going to vote 4 no NIGGER .POINT DOT)(thats why Bush won 4yrs ago Down south)







______________________________________________________________________________________________________________Kappagem said:
Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:
I don't understand the Hype around R.Kelly.
Just because you have crazy laws in the states,
you judge a brother a criminal? Weak.
He didn't rape nobody, so what the heck.
It's 2008 and you have young girls who wanna fuck
with superstars. That's reality. Any place in the world
young girls are dreaming of having sex with their superstar.
if they don't fuck with R. Kelly the will fuck with B and C
stars.

@Tommy K: Welcome back !!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I hear you pimpin, but that girl in the vid was like 14 or some sh*t.  That is disgusting...I don't care if it was even the norm back in the day, or in ancient times...today, our society, that sh*t is nasty as f*ck.  Now, 19 year olds?  That's actually legal:)---------------------------------------------------------------------- I stay in chicago and i know some 19yr old chicks that will make you avg. video vixen look like a flood damage pontiac.  but i wonder my niggs what if the age of consent was 16 or 15 will we still holla its ok she legal.


I cant take up 4 kellys i know some shit personal about that guy he sick as fuck. But anyone from the westside of chicago can tell u Georege's have not been open in almost a year he is haveing some type of problem keeping his shop open now he talking about R.Kelly fucking his littel girl.
September 17, 2008 2:02 PM
 

jamaican_pimp said:

VH1 Announces New Shows From Eddie Griffin, Others In Fall Line-Up

http://www.ballerstatus.com/article/news/2008/09/5476/
wow anyone can get a show now but for real chance and real?
September 17, 2008 2:04 PM
 

MizzNaeChail said:

Yeah R. Kelly just makes my damn head hurt. LOL. So I didn't watch for fear of a migraine.

Glad Will isn't joining the Dark Side, LOL.

I just can't get with Barack doing that with Hillary. I dunno. I just can't see it. Do you know the media frenzy that would cause?? The GOP would have a field day with that shit. I hope he doesn't. (Sidenote...still laughing at Tina Fay and Amy Poehler as Palin and Clinton)

@Tommy K: yeah, fuck pigs, LOL. But you wrote like a whole novel. Not hating though. And good lookin for shouting out ppl dealing with Ike. I live in SW Louisiana and we get like no coverage, but we have sections of town under water. And the National Guard walking around with their guns like they're in Iraq or something. I hate hurricanes.

I'm out!

September 17, 2008 2:05 PM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

MAN FUCK R. KELLY!!! This nigga came to my hood to hoop @ the local gym & was talking mad shit. I was bustin his ass(on the court, no homo) & he get mad & start talkin shit & callin bullshit fouls. We going back & forth wolfin & he walk up on me like he wanna do something & everybody started to break the shit up.....the game continue, I hit the game winnin shot on his ass .....this nigga gets mad & leaves in his tour bus...LMAO....

Musician- GREAT
PERSON- ARROGANT ASSHOLE!

FUCK DUDE!
September 17, 2008 2:10 PM
 

BlackSean said:

Whattup peoples.... er'body good?

"Right on to the real~ death to the fakers"  - Big Rube

my N____ Jhamal:  
Whut up doe?  Caught ya msg yesterday & it sent me on a mission to the Wrecka Sto looking for that Heltah Skeltah "D.I.R.T."

Hit 2 different spots~ no luck.  Ended up copping Elzhi "The Preface" instead (Hot fiya like Dylon!)

I still bump "Nocturnal" & my personal classic "Magnum Force" as well as the solos & BootCamp joints, so you know Im all over the new ish whenevr it drop
*****************************************
BP:  
assignment: do you have the numbers for illmatic, long live the kane and by all means necessary?
 
"The Curse of the 2 Seans"......

what started as a sickness is now a viral epidemic.  On evrything, no subliminal diss intended, but I wonder if cats realize how much they sound like golddigging chicks, checking for/keeping up with an artist's SoundScan.  Not bad if it were topic of convo on Hip Hop-related msg boards, but this is now the general consensus

What you buy, what you own (or secretly lease), how many "keys you flip"/bottles you pop, units you sell validate you as an artist.  In no other genre of music is this a relevancy factor or barometer of 'what's hot'

Then again, I just looked it up...Vanilla Ice did sell over 10 million (oh, my bad~ 10Milli) so I guess numbers don't lie.  Check the sarcasm
*********************

Peace to all eyes reading this.

King Knowl:  What's good, fam..... let Twin know to stay up/stay strong & she's prayed up in Detroit as well as across the board
September 17, 2008 2:15 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

BlackPeople 1 said:
also who else in here from the country with an accent?
************************************************
It's not an accent sir, its Midwest twaaaaannnng....LOL

@JRucker, oh okay :) Just making sure ya'll know I'm not falling for the lemonade in the tail pipe....wait....nevermind...LOL
September 17, 2008 2:16 PM
 

JRucker said:

hotnuknowit said:

@JRucker, oh okay :) Just making sure ya'll know I'm not falling for the lemonade in the tail pipe....wait....nevermind...LOL
----

lol! you silly!
September 17, 2008 2:25 PM
 

Knowl said:


JRucker said:
Boss Up said:

R.Kelly, he be rappin now...he ain't been hot since 'When A Womans Fed Up'
---------

So you're sayin Chocolate Factory, TP 3 Reloaded and Double Up were weak albums filled wit rappin and no singin? You should listen again... True, those albums were not as hot as TP2.com but they were all hot albums, better than most of the R&B that has been put out.
--------------------------------
R. Kelly's best album was the R back in 1996 H e was still singing. Peep this:

Can't sleep baby (if I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYKPhEeDKqA

Bump & Grind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvimAwIuq-Q

if I can turn back the hands of time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJWfQ6ISA4o

These are some videos from when R Kelly used to sing.
September 17, 2008 2:33 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

oh yeah, almost forgot...

*puts hater mark on juanita's neck* :)
September 17, 2008 2:34 PM
 

XOuL MusIk said:

@everyone

ill 9/11 movie by alex jones and prison planet

different from most documentarys


http://tv-links.cc/documentary/911-chronicles-truth-rising.htm#


Pleaseee check it out...
good stuff.
September 17, 2008 2:37 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

what up AHH?

Thanks 4 the shout out & Hold ya head Tommy K


R Kelly: Its good to See Kellz is Still relevant in people conversation: Talk about him just Dont forget About Him.


Blue Print Vs Stillmatic: Blue print,Cuz aint the Blue print the reason Y Nas Steped his Game Up & became a lyracist again?
THE BEEF= Jigga Came with A verse NAS put out A whole Song.
than hov came back with a rushed response,but Hov made NAS Up his Game.

Life After Death Vs All Eyes On Me: I'll take All eyes On Me... I love big let Me sat that,But Alot of people had that sympathy love 4 BIG. The CD was Hoottt but it just didn't compare 2 A E O M..
all eyes went double plat in A week, let's not forget it hold a diamond statues: johny j, Dj quick, Daz , & Dr Dre. That was like a dream team production.  Heartz of men That sample from Richard pryor is a all time classic;-)



September 17, 2008 2:37 PM
 

junegemini said:

what up to everybody...

so its like that huh BFG? just gone leave me hangin? aight then, thats cool...



~giving Nelly the business
September 17, 2008 2:41 PM
 

JRucker said:

@Knowl,

From 1993 when he released 12Play to his last album, can't no one say his albums are weak. You liked that double disc titled R. That album was definitely classic... My favorite on that one is Half on a Baby... But He still be singin, he just mixes it up and adds a lil of the singin/rap twist to it.
September 17, 2008 2:42 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

detroit, man it's so triflin.

sometimes i don't even know where to start.
at other times -- what's even worse(r) --  i don't even WHY i should start.

sometimes people's heads are like glass skulls to me.
I'm listening to them squinting like "are you dead serious? do you know what you sound like?"

do they realize how many steps they are away from art or quality when they began to justify the product by the sales?

where do i begin to have that conversation?

that's why i'm really tryna understand what makes a lotta muvafuckas tick.

like what kinda clockwork do they have upstairs.




hotnuknowit, c'mere lemme smell and nuzzle ya neck and put my hand on the small of ya back and pull you close to me.

WAIT!

you want me to pee in ya butt????

naw!
that's that eurotrash shit. I'm not into that.

(you know i'm just messin with your "lemonade in the tailpipe" comment)
September 17, 2008 2:42 PM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

JRucker said:
@ hotnuknowit & MissDallasTx214

lmao!!! I was really just joking... I know that verse is suspect as hell! I was just throwin some bs out there like he did last night in that interview. Peace ladies!!!
September 17, 2008 1:55 PM
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whew! Thank goodness, you had me worried......lmao

@ BlackPeople1, I don't think people are always hating on the south, that's not what I said, I said people are always disliking Texans and our teams for some reason, it's just tha truth.....I visit many sites and each one there's always someone saying somethin negative, "we're country", "our rappers suck", "we sip lean and bang screw, wtf is that they ask"....you never heard any of our artists like UGK say "quit hatin on the south"?? Do you think the people of the 3rd coast are just walking round with our hearts on our sleeves and people really don't feel this way?!? This site alone to me hates on the south. Im always readin about artists from the east and west coast I never heard of, like Trick Trick, Big Shug, Lonzo?!? Who the hell are they? I have yet to come on here and read up on what's going on with artists from my own city like Big Tuck, Damn D, Mr Pookie....I could go on and on. Even Houston, except for negative shit like the fight that broke out between Mike Jones and Trae the Truth. That's not cool to me but I brush it off because like I said, Im used to it and it's to be expected. Ask some of the other people of Ahh from the lone star state and see if they share the same feelings........see what response you get.
September 17, 2008 2:47 PM
 

DonLevon said:


ANY BODY THAT LISTEN 2 THE WORDS IN RAP MUSIC KNOW NO ONE CAN USE WORDS LIKE THAT NIGGA BIGGIE. THAT NIGGA WAS CLEVER AS HELL WITH HIS WORD PLAY. THEN U FIND OUT HIS MOM WAS A ENGLISH  TEACHER.


PAC HAD A MOVEMENT NO OTHER ARTIS WILL HAVE THE STREETS LIKE PAC.  WHEN THAT BLACK MAN DIED NIGGAS WAS CRYING SAYING THEY KILLED CHIEF.
September 17, 2008 2:50 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

Whaddup up folks,

Just thought I visit ya'll today!

I miss blogging with ya'll.

Let me see, I see convos in regards of the blueprint, illmatic and all eyes on me, I just havfta say all eyes on me, was one of the great albums, then illamtic comes next, and ofcourse blueprint will always be last in my books.

As far as Clintion for potential VP, I can see that coming, it's kind of crazy with the whole political movement. Mos Def obama gots my vote though.

I been listening to alot of wu-tang, rapahel Sadiiq, Anthony Hamiliton, Janice Joplin and lots of calabs with laruryn Hill.

Here go some music for ya'll some of the shit i be listening to! Can't forget ice cube!

Raphael Sadiiq Ft. Joss Stone (Just One Kiss) From the latest LP!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXZE7dNsFnU

Wu-Tang (Tearz) from 36 Chambers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFXkqef3Njk

Wu-Tang (Can it be all so simple) From 36 Chambers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhGDEu11MRM

Ice Cube (Growing Up) From Laugh now, cry later
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvCyGAk5tCE



September 17, 2008 2:51 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

BP,

what type of influence, positive or negative?

i'll just say,

direct and instant: hip hop

its an active process.

fa sho.



indirect and long-term: politics

often an inactive process.


equally influential???  

(but in diff ways)

< or > ???

idk 100%.

havent decided what i think bout that.

and right now theres a lot going on 2.

fluctuations in things.

but hip hop is extremely powerful.

theres no doubt about that.

the influence of music is a great debate.

and ive i always been of the mind

that music is one of the strongest & most influential

features of culture.

2 cent.



~BFG
September 17, 2008 2:53 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

Jem what u talkin bout giiiiiiirl?

#1 stickgirl

luv Jem :D

ay yesterday sucked, didnt get a chance 2 tell u.




~BFG
September 17, 2008 2:55 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

How can I forget mef ya'll, Method man is ill on the mic

Method Man Ft. Lauryn Hill (say)
I love this song so true!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE0hWB0rvGs


and John Legend Ft. Lauryn Hill (So High) I wish I was right about now :( and I couldn't find it on you tube, just a snippet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdEdRYSTucE
Sorry about the tease ya'll it's a short clip.

September 17, 2008 2:57 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

If you no you not a Homo Y say No Homo Ayo I think saying no Homo is So Homo (Cassidy Voice)

Savvy Put that Shit on youtube,Cuz that shit sound Like when GAME was ballen & he supposed 2 had pulled out a gun on niggaz..Yall can make up some stories on AHH.SMH
September 17, 2008 2:58 PM
 

DonLevon said:




D-block 4life said:

johny j, Dj quick, Daz , & Dr Dre. That was like a dream team production.  Heartz of men That sample from Richard pryor is a all time classic;-)
______________________________________________________
 co-sign 100% i tough i was the only hearing Richard Proyor on that joint happy to know niggas still listen to everything in muisc I tough i was just high then a mother.
September 17, 2008 3:00 PM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

JRucker said:
Boss Up said:

R.Kelly, he be rappin now...he ain't been hot since 'When A Womans Fed Up'
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He has been rappin but TP2 was the last album I remember him singing on.  Him and Ja Rule had swapped spots, Ja started singing and Kellz started rappin.  Besides Ne Yo, does anyone make true R&B music.  They consider Dream R&B and dude don't say anything outside of a catchy hook.  Where is Maxwell when you need him?????

Knowl,
Any word yet from big sis???
September 17, 2008 3:00 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

By Deon Levon:  "PAC HAD A MOVEMENT NO OTHER ARTIS WILL HAVE THE STREETS LIKE PAC.  WHEN THAT BLACK MAN DIED NIGGAS WAS CRYING SAYING THEY KILLED CHIEF."

____________________________________

I co-fing sign that man...ya girl shed mad tearz the day I found out his life came to an end.. SMH
September 17, 2008 3:00 PM
 

Knowl said:

Shouts to all my peeps and fellow builders on here. I spoke to Me Me today (Yeah still happy, yo) she asked me to post this video for you guys. (Keyanna, you might know about this)

Yolanda Adams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiVFTzTqlTE
September 17, 2008 3:01 PM
 

JRucker said:

Tupacfan said:
How can I forget mef ya'll, Method man is ill on the mic

Method Man Ft. Lauryn Hill (say)
I love this song so true!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE0hWB0rvGs
------

Meth has a crzy line in that song... "when death calls, I'm good, i got call ID"... somethin like that, i cant listen to youtube at work... but that song is bangin, and has a point.
September 17, 2008 3:02 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

O that was don Levone that I co-sign with his or her statement lol.
September 17, 2008 3:02 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

@  D-block 4life said:
Life After Death Vs All Eyes On Me: I'll take All eyes On Me... I love big let Me sat that,But Alot of people had that sympathy love 4 BIG. The CD was Hoottt but it just didn't compare 2 A E O M..
all eyes went double plat in A week, let's not forget it hold a diamond statues: johny j, Dj quick, Daz , & Dr Dre. That was like a dream team production.  Heartz of men That sample from Richard pryor is a all time classic;-)
-------------------------------------------------------------
A E O M had a lot of good songs on there but that sample was funny as hell ...

wonder why they call you
Picture me rollin
what's ya phone number
ain't hard to find
i ain't mad at cha.. but the richard pryor sample is funny as shit

September 17, 2008 3:03 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

whatitdo 2Pacfan?

u ever work dat out yet sis? LMAO

had 2 shout @ ya b4 i get...




~BFG
September 17, 2008 3:07 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

@Tupacfan said:
I been listening to alot of wu-tang, rapahel Sadiiq, Anthony Hamiliton, Janice Joplin and lots of calabs with laruryn Hill.
-----------------------------------------------------------

may i ask why jill scott isn't on that list... her last album is kinda serious and i don't even mess with R&B/Soul music like that
September 17, 2008 3:10 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

JOSH HOWARD BAD TALKIN THE NATIONAL ANTHEM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxf35b06s4
September 17, 2008 3:11 PM
 

JRucker said:

SeanJohn81 said:
He has been rappin but TP2 was the last album I remember him singing on.  
-----

I don't know man, ya'll not listenin then... if ya'll checked them albums out beyond tp2, u will hear him sing... they marketed the rap/sing a lil more to appeal to the audience that was diggin that style...
September 17, 2008 3:13 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

JRucker,

ya feel me on this one huh? yea I know Mef is sick with the lyrics. And it's a strong meaning behind this song, why I bump this when I'm going thru shit and people talking..


Just for that, here is the lyrics..


"Say"
(feat. Lauryn Hill)

[Lauryn (Method Man)]
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah
Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah
Yeah (Yeah)
Yeah yeah (Yo)

[Method Man]
Damn, I hate it when it rain
Ever since I came in the game
Some hated on the fame
A lot of niggas done changed
And started actin' strange
Even labels turning they backs
And started backing lames
Radio is the same, whole lotta speculatin'
These mutherfuckas defacatin' on the name
Wu-Tang, if this is where the hip-hop is
Radio lyin' then, that ain't where hip-hop live
It lives in the streets, we eat to live they livin' to eat
I'm fed up, that nigga rides in 'em, givin 'em sleep
R.I.P., make me the king of all I see
And when death call I'm good I got call ID
See it was planned in the front, now they just gon' front
Like my joints is on proactive, and they just don't bump
Then niggas gon' say I lost my skill
when in fact they all been programmed
And lost they feel, fo' real

[Chorus: Lauryn (Method Man)]
They've got so much things to say right now
They've got so much things to say
They've got so much things to say right now (Yeah)
They got so much things to say (Yo)

[Method Man]
Damn, another artist chokes again
They ain't cut as close as him or even broke the skin
See how niggas ain't yo friends, when there ain't no ends
Don't care who the case offend, don't underrate my pen
I got what it takes to win, while ya'll are thinking I'm trash
Loving the taste of success and this drink in my glass
Watch 'em cosign that whack shit, give it a pass till it's gone
Quicker than Red, can't get rid of them clubs
When they're wrong, call the cops, they credibility's shot
It's time to learn, what hot really is and really is not
Off brain niggas, Meth gonna let 'em know off top
Don't get smacked on dvds, trying to show off blocks
I can't stop cause my enemies plot, or cause the cops want me
Shackled and locked inside the penalty box
And while they waitin' for my shit to flop
They gettin' pimped like hoes
Sellin' they ass just to get my spot, come on man

[Repeat Chorus]

[Method Man]
Ask Miss Hill, half these critics ain't got half this skill
Often so hungry that they have to steal
If I didn't have my deal, and didn't have this mass appeal
Then I'm back up in that trap, swingin' crack it's real
And that ain't worth the time, so search and find a new nerve
And here's three words: stop working mine
It take a lot more to hurt my pride
Jerk my vibe more than media lies, cry when dirt dog die nigga
The last album wasn't feeling my style
This time my foot up in they ass but they feelin' me now
Cause Tical, he put his heart in every track he do
But somehow yall find someway to give a whack review
It ain't all good, they writin' that I'm Hollywood
Tryin' to tell you my shit ain't ghetto and they hardly hood
Come on man, until you dudes can write some rhymes
Keep that in mind when you find yourself reciting mines

[Repeat Chorus]

September 17, 2008 3:15 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

JRucker said:

How can I forget mef ya'll, Method man is ill on the mic
Meth has a crzy line in that song... "when death calls, I'm good, i got call ID"... somethin like that, i cant listen to youtube at work... but that song is bangin, and has a point.
-------------------------------------------------------------

JRucker do you remember the line that he spit...
"Nigga chew gum with they ass and pop shit" ... i think it's on the in to deep sound track ... that's a serious ass line people keep sleeping on meth.... and you got that line right word for word...
September 17, 2008 3:15 PM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

D-block 4life said:
If you no you not a Homo Y say No Homo Ayo I think saying no Homo is So Homo (Cassidy Voice)

Savvy Put that Shit on youtube,Cuz that shit sound Like when GAME was ballen & he supposed 2 had pulled out a gun on niggaz..Yall can make up some stories on AHH.SMH
--------------------------------------------------
nigga if you dont getcho PUSHA T lookin ass outta here with that durtty ass throwback & go comb that lil girl head!

I dont gotta post my life on youtube for you to believe shit...

Beerbelly head ass nigga! LOL

September 17, 2008 3:17 PM
 

JRucker said:

Just_Rude said:
JRucker said:

How can I forget mef ya'll, Method man is ill on the mic
Meth has a crzy line in that song... "when death calls, I'm good, i got call ID"... somethin like that, i cant listen to youtube at work... but that song is bangin, and has a point.
-------------------------------------------------------------

JRucker do you remember the line that he spit...
"Nigga chew gum with they ass and pop shit" ... i think it's on the in to deep sound track ... that's a serious ass line people keep sleeping on meth.... and you got that line right word for word...

------

"Tear it Off" wit him and Redman... people have definitely slept on Red and Meth... I'm wit u on that!
September 17, 2008 3:20 PM
 

Knowl said:

@sean john81 Yeah I spoke to her last night for HOURS!!!!!!! I missed my baby!!! I spoke to her today for a sec. I posted a video for you guys like she requested. I'll send your shouts her way...
MissDallasTx214 said:
SeanJohn81 said:
Tommy K said:
Question!: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic. Which is the better album?
Stillmatic IMO, Jay made Nas make a great album.  The album was full of meaningful songs, Poison was one of my favorites on there along with second childhood.  No disrespect to Blueprint because that was an epic joint but Nasir clearly won that battle, Jay eventually won the war though.  All in all I think they were both great albums.  As for the Life After vs All Eyes on Me, I can't call it.  This past weekend, the anniversary of Pac's death 92Q played like 45  minutes of straight Pac and when they started playin, picture me rollin I almost crashed my whip.  At the same time Life after had so many joints on it that I would have to declare a tie.  I would hate to see anything like that in HipHop again where we are divided by region......
September 17, 2008 10:33 AM  
---------------------------------------------------------
The Blueprint, that was too easy!!!!
Between All Eyez On Me and Life After Death I would have to say Pac because I didn't even start bumpin Biggie til he died. I hope that doesn't offend anyone but I wasn't into Biggie I was always a die hard Pac fan.......

----------------------------------
OFFENDEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!! LOL No I'm not. It's what you think. I know you, Tupacfan, and a couple of others think that he was the best MC ever. I have to disagree, but that's just me. Between thoes two albums, I can't say, because I'm not a pac fan (even though I have Pac albums on my ipod) and haven't heard the Pac album enough to compare. I like Big because of his flow and how he arranges his lyrics. Pac has passion out the ass, but his lyric arrangement is mediocre at best. If you were to fuse Big and Pac, you'd probably come close to what a perfect MC is. Just add Lord Finesse's freestyle  and simile ability and your good.
September 17, 2008 3:20 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

dallas, you did not answer my question.

you started talking about something else that you might've wanted to get off your chest.

i'll try it a little more clearly:
why do you think people say things to you in reference to the south's current entertainment product such as
"you're country" or "your rappers suck" ?

why?



lemme ask some of the other people here.

anybody from the country.
that includes the midwest, st. louis to the deep south?

why do you think people are "hating on the south?"






mari, all of us in here know hip hop music has a stronger pull, sway and influence on black people than politics.

but people are pretending otherwise.

so that's why i wonder why none of these little pro-obama screamers don't talk about the trashy ass garbage audio entertainment product that's out.

why not speak out on that?

if they want "change" so bad, why not change that?

the drum affects people of color instantly.

naw. see? there i go again.
i forgot people want you to act like they are slow.

then that way responsibility can be reduced.

okay. let's just say it like this for everybody.

music has a stonger effect on you than politics.
why not act on changing that?
September 17, 2008 3:20 PM
 

Young BRINK! said:

Yall Remember That Movie The Faculty???

Why does Palin look like one of those infected teachers?
September 17, 2008 3:21 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

Whaddup up sis (buterflygrl)

Hell nah, still fustrated lol, I'm working on it though...I got my laptop deliverd today...  so ya'll gonna see me around more often now..thanks for the shout though. I'm bout to post a few new drops in waiting to exhale soon, so be on the look our for dat..
September 17, 2008 3:22 PM
 

B*braze said:

I don't give a fuck
They done push me to the limit the more I live
I might blow up any minute, did it again
Now I'm in the back of the paddy wagon
While this cops bragging about the nigga he's jackin
I see no justice
All I see is niggas dying fast
The sound of a gun blast
Then watch the hearse past
Just another day in the life 'G'
Gotta step lightly cuz cops tried to snipe me
The catch, they don't wanna stop for the brother man
But then they'll have an accident and pick up another man
I went to the bank to cash my check
I get more respect from the mutha-fuckin' dope man
The Grammy's and the American music shows pimp us like hoes
They got dough but they hate us though
You better keep your mind on the real shit
And fuck trying to get with these crooked ass hypocrites
They way they see it, we was meant to be keep down
Just can't understand why we getting respect now
Mama told me they're be days like this
But I'm pissed cause it stays like this
And now they trying to ship me off to Kuwait
Gimme a break
How much shit can a nigga take
I ain't goin' nowhere no how
Bush wanna throw down
Better bring your guns pal
Cuz this is the day we make 'em pay
Fuck bailin' hay I bail and spray with my A-K
And even if they shoot me down
There'll be another nigga bigger
from the mutha-fuckin' underground
So step but you better step quick
Cause the clocks goin' tick and I'm sick of the bullshit
You're watching the makings of a psycho-path
The truth didn't last
Before the wrath and aftermath
Who's that behind the trigger?
Who'd do yah figure!?
A mutha-fuckin 90's nigga
Ready to buck and rip shit up
I had enough and I don't give a fuck

Niggas aint just the blacks
its also a gang of muthafuckas dressed in blue slacks
They say niggas hang in packs and they attitudes is shitty
then tell me, who's the biggest gang of niggas in the city
They say niggas like to do niggas,
so me and this cop is just two niggas
A street walkin' nigga and a beat walkin' nigga with a badge
I end his future and his past wit a blast, take his cash
And bash his head in dump him at the dead end
And that's just his luck
Cause a nigga like me don't really give a fuck

Walked in the store what's everybody staring at
They act like they never seen a mutha fucka wearing black
Following a nigga and shit
Ain't this a bitch
All I wanted was some chips
I wanna take my business else where
But where?
Cause who in the hell cares
About a black man with a black need
They wanna jack me like some kind of crack fiend
I wonder if knows that my income is more than
His pension, salary and then some
Your daughter is my number one fan
And your trife ass wife wants a life with a black man
So who's the mack in fact who's the black jack
Sit back and get fat off the fat cat
while he thinks that he's getting over
I bust a move as smooth as casanova
And count another quick mil
I'm getting paid for my trade but its still real
And if you look between the lines you'll find a rhyme
AS strong as a fuckin' nine
Mail stacked up niggas wanna act up
Let's put the gats up and throw your backs up
But the cops getting dropped by the gun shot
Useta come but he's done, now we run the block
To my brothers stay strong keep yah heads up
They know we fed up
But we they just don't give a fuck

They just don't give a fuck

I gotta give my fuck offs

Fuck you to the San Francisco police department
Fuck you to the Marin County Sheriff department
Fuck you to the F.B.I
Fuck you to the C.I.A
Fuck you to the B-u-s-h
Fuck you to the AmeriK-K-Ka
Fuck you to all you redneck prejudice mutha fuckas
And fuck yah
Fuck Y'all
Punk gay sensitive little dick bastards
2paclypse mutha fuckin' know
Y'all can kiss my ass and suck my dick
And my uncle Tommy's balls
Fuck Y'all
Punks, punks, punks, punks, punks
September 17, 2008 3:25 PM
 

MaryJanesHusband said:

AIG was the largest Insurance company in the world.

The Federal Reserve "bailed them out." 85 billion that American taxpayers will pay for. Now the Federal Reserve has an 80% controlling stake in AIG and AIG has to pay The Fed back the 85 billion with interest. WTF? Is this shit really real? I need a bigger gun....

Besides that....I'm off to NYC tomorrow for a couple days...back Monday. I'm tired as hell and haven't even been to sleep yet almost been up 24hrs so i'm bout to crash in a minute. Sunday is my B-day and will be celebrating that one...I'm growing old.

Shouts to the whole fam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8YIdJlsElc
September 17, 2008 3:26 PM
 

B*braze said:

*shots fired*
September 17, 2008 3:27 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

@ Just_Rude,

Na, I ain't been listening to jill scott, i'll peep though preview her music. I haven't really listen to her at all. By the way it's very rare and seldom that I listen to R&b and soul, ya girl going through some thangs so I had to play that soulful ish to give my heart some comfort..lol
September 17, 2008 3:27 PM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

@BlackPeople 1

I'm in Shanghai China.

@butrflygrl

That's some serious info.
More trouble and inflation
ahead. The FED and the ECB
both did the same.
September 17, 2008 3:27 PM
 

that N____R Jhamal said:

@ Blacksean....awww man i thought i put up it was coming out the 30th....Da Incredible Rap Team
September 17, 2008 3:27 PM
 

JRucker said:

@Tupacfan

"See it was planned in the front, now they just gon' front
Like my joints is on proactive, and they just don't bump
Then niggas gon' say I lost my skill
when in fact they all been programmed
And lost they feel, fo' real"

He got a lot off his chest right there didnt he?
September 17, 2008 3:27 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

Repost for the new rumors. Lol

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September 17 Hampton Institute founded, 1861

A little known Black History fact;
Most people think Lawrence Douglas Wilder was the first black governor in the United States. They are partially correct. He was the first black governor elected. The first black governor to serve was actually Pinckney Benton Stewart Pinchback in 1872. He was serving as lieutenant governor at the time, and the sitting governor was impeached.
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SONGS of the day:
For all the AHH Ladies: Freedom [Hip Hop n R&B All-Star females]
r&b version [RIP Aaliyah]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvO97MwjJS0
Rap version [RIP Left Eye]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvO97MwjJS0

For all the AHH fellows: The Points [Hip Hop All-stars fellows] DJ Uneek remix [RIP B.I.G.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6I41LQTR48

For the smokers: Weed song-Bone Thugs n Harmony        
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Bz7UTwCmM&feature=related

For the lovers: Giving him something he can feel-En Vogue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aXhxkBuQSc



Congratulations to OBAMA/BIDEN!
You got this strong black woman behind you.
Have a blessed Hump day!
One Love

=========================For you to know===============================

The Bush Doctrine [overview]
The greater the threat, the greater is the risk of inaction and the more compelling the case for taking anticipatory action to defend ourselves, even if uncertainty remains as to the time and place of the enemy's attack. To forestall or prevent such hostile acts by our adversaries, the United States will, if necessary, act preemptively.


REGISTER VOTERS:
CHECK YOUR STATUS. THE GOOD OLE BOYS ARE UP TO NO GOOD. AGAIN!
And I am back on the voters list. HIP HOP HOORAY! Lol


ONE FAMILY, ONE LOVE!
September 17, 2008 3:28 PM
 

JRucker said:

Knowl said:
Pac has passion out the ass, but his lyric arrangement is mediocre at best.
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come on Knowl!!! say it aint so!
September 17, 2008 3:31 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

HOW MANY TRUE AMERICAN'S OUT THERE?

HOW IS IT WAS TAXS PAYERS CAN HELP BAIL OUT ALL THESE BIG NAME COMPANIES

BUT WHEN WE NEED OUR MONEY TO HELP OUR GOT DAMN SELF, THEY TELL US TO GO FUCK OURSELF..

I MEAN ITS AMERICANS THAT ABOUT TO GET KICK OUT THEY CRIBS CAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD THE PAYMENTS

WHERE IS THEY BAIL OUT MONEY?

HOW THE FUCK A BANK RUN OUT OF MONEY?

WE PAYING FOR A WAR THAT DON'T NOBODY WANT..

SO AGAIN

HOW MANY TRUE AMERICANS DO WE HAVE ON HERE?
September 17, 2008 3:31 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@VICE-PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON!!!!!?????

I don't know if it's true. But Biden has been kinda M-I-A. Still, Palin just lost 10 in less the 72 hours, Obama is leading the Gallup again and Hillary big fundaraiser Rothchild [woman] just threw her support behind John McCain. :smh:

September 17, 2008 3:33 PM
 

B*braze said:

all eyez > stillmatic > blueprint

i never understood the hype over jay z. he cool i guess but way overrated. i aint owned a jay z CD since reasonable doubt
September 17, 2008 3:35 PM
 

BIG CHURCH said:

r kelly is a pedophile, plain and simple.  he is a bitch ass child rapist who need a good ass bustin.  he's a busta, a sick muthafucka.
September 17, 2008 3:36 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

*runs up and hugs/tackles tupacfan* :D hey ma! where u been?!?
September 17, 2008 3:37 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

FREEDOM DURING TIMES OF WAR: SECURITY, NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF SECURED LIBERTIES

by Timothy N.


Baldwin

(This was Tim Baldwin's graduation dissertation at the
Cumberland School of Law, Birmingham, AL.


)

U.S. Constitutional rights were designed to transcend generations with the purpose that the "posterity" of America would enjoy the security of freedom, not simply security alone.[1] Thus, the true test of whether America will respect and protect the freedom of secured liberties is not to be found during times of peace and tranquility, but rather during times of war and uncertainty.[2] In a post-September-11th-world, America is taking such a test.




Since the inception of this country, the United States of America has had threats against its security and independence. During such times, those in control of enacted policies have had the duty to protect the liberties guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, while balancing those liberties with national security and defense. For both the citizens and the government, security is always on the mind of every person in every country, and has always been.




This country has seen the government attempts to secure itself against supposed threats, specifically during times of war, because that is when people feel the most vulnerable and exposed to those who would want to attack the United States. History has shown us that the natural reaction to threatening situations is for the government to take more power to protect against "would-be" threats: this is the dangerous inclination of human nature in attempts to feel secure, whether or not there is an actual threat.




However, the United States Constitution sets forth principles underlying the basic structure of a free country during times of peace and war, whereby the government has the power to deter and punish crime, while respecting individual rights and refraining from infringing those rights. More specifically, the Bill of Rights sets forth the protections that the government must not violate for a free country to operate as such.


[3]

For the first time since the bombing at Pearl Harbor, America was threatened on September 11, 2001, when two jets were flown into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, and national security became a serious concern in American politics as a result. It was only within a time span of a little more than a month from the time that America felt threatened that the United States Congress rushed the Patriot Act into law-the proposed goal of which was to make America more secure. Representative Ron Paul (Tex.-Rep.) expressed the reactionary nature in which the Patriot was passed. Representative Paul stated that the Act was not thoroughly read and reviewed by Members of Congress and the Senate before it was voted on.[4] Senator Russell Feingold expressed the same: "there was 'relentless pressure to pass the Act and authorize 'sweeping new power for law enforcement that directly affect the civil liberties of the American people without due deliberation by the peoples' elected representatives.'"[5] The Patriot Act was passed without forethought to the Constitutional consequences and implications for future generations.




While we can agree that America has a strong interest in national defense, it can also be said that Constitutional rights are not to be ignored for the sake of good intentions-even if it is in the name of national security.[6] Legislation must be looked at not only for its end, but also for its means. If such legislation ignores and violates long-standing, fundamental principles of secured liberty and it is left in place, then America has failed the test.





EXAMPLES OF GOVERNMENT INTRUSION DURING WAR


CIVIL WAR

History warns America of the cautious approach the government needs to take in times of war when enacting legislation, to ensure that liberties are not reduced to mere words on a historical document&#183;[7] A prime example is when Lincoln was President during the Civil War and suspended the writ of habeas corpus--the right guaranteed by the Constitution that allows someone who is being held by the government to appeal being held because due process was not given.


Music

President Lincoln violated the Constitution not solely because the writ was suspended, but because the Constitution permits only the U.S. Congress to suspend the writ during times of war to protect the safety of the public. Obviously the United States at that time was in much more upheaval and chaos than we are today, and still, Justice Taney (the United States Supreme Court Justice) spoke out in his opinion in Ex Parte Milligan that the President was acting unconstitutionally, notwithstanding a war between the states.[9] The focus of Taney's opinion was that the Constitution be followed, even in times of war. Despite Taney's order, President Lincoln ignored the Constitution and Judge Taney's order, and many people were denied their Constitutional right to the writ of habeas corpus.


[10]


WORLD WAR I

Another example of when times of war have caused the government's tendency to ignore Constitutional principles was during the time of World War I. During this time, many people protesting the war effort in Europe were imprisoned for their speech. Debs v. U.S. shows how easily Constitutional rights can be set aside for the sake of expediency for the government.[11] In Debs, Justice Holmes expressed how the government wants to relax the Constitution during times of war (something that America had previously seen). Holmes says that Constitutional norms may be relaxed "when a nation is at war."[12] However, it is clear to see now how these people's Constitutional liberties were denied, in light of cases like Brandenburg v. Ohio.[13] Brandenburg stood for the notion that liberties must be protected even during times of war and that the freedom of speech should be protected unless there is an actual imminent threat of harm.[14] Brandenburg demonstrated the sanctity of Constitutional liberties by demonstrating that it wasn't the possibility of harm or the threat of harm that justified taking away guaranteed liberties.





WORLD WAR II

Perhaps one example that is most pertinent to the current atmosphere of today is that of World War II when in 1944 hundreds of Japanese-Americans were forced to relocate on government demand. In response to the bombing at Pearl Harbor, the United States government had a heightened sense of skepticism towards any persons of Japanese descent, believing that it is better to ignore freedom and to secure the nation by sending them to, what Justice Roberts termed as, "concentration camps.


"[15]

Despite what was probably overwhelming support to these actions by the government, looking through the lenses of hindsight, it is clear to see how blatantly unconstitutional these actions were.[16] Yet it is important to note that the historical landscape at that time was somewhat similar to today: America was attacked on America's soil, and patriotism was at an all time high.




Revealed by Congress' knee-jerk response to 9/11 and the fact that "no member of Congress was allowed to read the first Patriot Act that was passed by the House on October 27, 2001," this legislation has serious Constitutional questions and implications.


[17]

In the specific area of the Fourth Amendment, the Patriot Act vastly broadens what have been accepted as Constitutionally acceptable procedures for search and seizures. Particularly, for purposes of this paper, section 802 and section 213 of the Patriot Act amended and broadened the ability of the government to "sneak-and-peek" into U.S. citizens' homes without notice, for an unspecified amount of time, while the owner of the home would have no notification that his home had been searched, for purposes of criminal investigation.


[18]


HISTORY OF FOURTH AMENDMENT

The United States of America was founded upon the principle of secured liberty. The founding fathers envisioned a government that was designed not to grant rights, but rather it was designed to protect certain "inalienable rights" "endowed by our creator," and that if the government became destructive to these ends (of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness), "it was the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."[19] Effectuating this vision, the founding fathers created the United States Constitution to "secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.


"[20]

One of the "inalienable rights" was the right of privacy, more specifically, the right for one to be left alone in his home as expressed in the Fourth Amendment.[21] Rooted in English common law, English citizens' privacy was protected against government intrusion; specifically, the government was not able to enter into one's home and intrude onto his or her property without certain requirements being satisfied.




Illustrating this principle is a landmark case, Entick v. Carrington, decided in England before the formation of the United States.[22] Here, the agents of the king of England "had forcibly broken into his house, broken into locked desks and boxes, and seized many printed charts, pamphlets and the like."[23] In this decision, the Court ruled that the government's actions violated the rights of the citizens and established that a person's home could not be invaded unless the government has shown "probable cause" and there is record of what had been seized.


[24]

The founding fathers reflected this common law principle of privacy in the Fourth Amendment. The Fourth Amendment states, "the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


"[25]

It is not surprising that the Fourth Amendment's language was incorporated into the Bill of Rights, as it was largely in "reaction to the general warrants and warrantless searches that had so alienated the colonists and had helped speed the movement for independence."[26] As a result, the Fourth Amendment protected people's privacy by mandating that police agents may only receive a warrant upon showing probable cause and must get "advance judicial approval of searches and seizures through a warrant procedure.


"[27]


FOURTH AMENDMENT PROTECTS PRIVACY
As the courts in America were interpreting the Fourth Amendment, it became clearer that the Fourth Amendment was more than a protection against a trespass of one's property; rather it was a protection against the trespass of a person's privacy in recognition of one's "right to be left alone", especially for purposes criminal investigation.[28] As technology became more advanced and wiretaps were being used against individuals for criminal investigation, courts had to address whether or not the Fourth Amendment was designed to protect more than just physical trespass against one's property and whether it would protect against invasions of one's personal privacy, such as private conversations in one's home.[29] As Fourth Amendment jurisprudence developed, it became accepted as "reasonable" that the Fourth Amendment was designed to protect people not only from unreasonable searches for criminal investigation purposes, but also from unreasonable searches in violation of one's "right to be left alone.


"[30]

One of the landmark cases in this area of jurisprudence, concerning and further defining the Fourth Amendment is Katz v. U.S.[31] There the U.S. Supreme Court recognized that privacy, not just property was protected under the Fourth Amendment. Thus, when a person entered into a telephone booth for a telephone conversation, the person "sought to exclude when he entered the booth was not the intruding eye-it was the uninvited ear."[32] "He did not shed his right to do so simply because he made his calls from a place where he might be seen.


"[33]

The principle of personal privacy was also stated in the same year as Katz in Warden v. Hayden: ''The premise that property interests control the right of the Government to search and seize has been discredited . . . We have recognized that the principal object of the Fourth Amendment is the protection of privacy rather than property, and have increasingly discarded fictional and procedural barriers rested on property concepts.


''[34]


PRIVACY: PERSONAL EXPECTATIONS AND SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE

As stated in Katz and Hayden, the question of privacy depends not upon the property interest, but rather the emphasis is the importance of the expectancy of privacy: ''What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. But what he seeks to preserve as private, even in an area accessible to the public, may be Constitutionally protected."[35] Thus, the "capacity to claim the protection of the Amendment depends not upon a property right in the invaded place but upon whether the area was one in which there was reasonable expectation of freedom from governmental intrusion.


''[36]

Balancing the need for personal privacy and governmental interest in pursuing crime, the court in Rakas v. Illinois explained that the "reasonable expectancy" of privacy (announced in Katz) is one where "society is prepared to recognize as reasonable."[37] "The expectation of privacy sought to be protected by the Fourth Amendment must have its source outside of that Amendment, either by reference to the concept of real or personal property law or to understandings that are recognized and permitted by society."[38] That is to say, the Fourth Amendment protects the subjective expectation of personal privacy, balanced with what society considers to be a reasonable expectation.[39] Thus, what is "reasonable expectancy" of privacy is a two-tiered approach: 1) whether the individual, by his conduct, has "exhibited an actual (subjective) expectation of privacy" and 2) whether the individual's subjective expectancy of privacy is "one that society is prepared to recognize as 'reasonable'."[40] Following from those premises, "as the intrusions grow more extensive and significantly jeopardize the sense of security of the individual, greater restraint of police officers through the warrant requirement may be deemed necessary.


"[41]


"HOME" IS AN ACCEPTED PLACE OF PRIVACY
If there is one place that society would find a "reasonable expectancy" of privacy, it is the home. "At the risk of belaboring the obvious, private residences are places in which the individual normally expects privacy free of governmental intrusion not authorized by a warrant, and that expectancy is plainly one that society is prepared to recognize as justifiable&Searches and seizures inside a home without a warrant are presumptively unreasonable absent exigent circumstances.


"[42]

This idea dates back in the earliest American history.


William Pitt made a memorable speech capturing the sanctity of the home and the restraint upon the government in intruding into one's home:

The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail-its roof may shake-the wind may blow through it-the storm may enter-the rain may enter-but the King of England cannot enter-all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement.[43] "Mindful of the abuses English citizens had at earlier times received at the hand of their government,"[44] the Fourth Amendment was undoubtedly designed to protect a man's "castle"[45] and it applied to "all invasions on the part of government and its employees of the sanctity of a man's home and the privacies of life.


"[46]




REASONABLE SEARCH: NOTIFICATION TO OCCUPANTS OF HOME
It is obvious, however, that the Constitution allows the government to search one's home as long as the search is reasonable, with probable cause and with a warrant because the government is charged with the responsibility of promoting the general welfare and enforcing the criminal laws.[47] These two competing principles, privacy and protection, are the "tension in our society between the need for more effective police work to combat the rising tide of crime and our constitutional aversion to a police state.


"[48]

This tension can pull society's views of "what is a reasonable search." This balance of liberties and governmental function is what the founding fathers called "self-government." Since the Constitution was not a rigid set of rules, the Bill of Rights were framed to "keep the police within our control" and yet maintain "order and security" without it being "unnecessarily harder" than it should be to protect the citizens.


[49]

Traditionally in America, the Fourth Amendment protected citizens against entry into the home unless certain circumstances were present. These circumstances were 1) the police were making an arrest, 2) there was a valid warrant issued by a judge, and 3) the police are in "hot pursuit" of the suspect.[50] With warrants to enter one's home, America's common law requires that the government give notice to the person occupying the home.


[51]

Since western society has always placed a very high value on the privacy of one's home, before the "officer of the Crown could break into a home in order to make an arrest 'he ought to signify the cause of his coming, and to make request to open the doors'."[52] This idea has been incorporated into American jurisprudence, as courts have held on Constitutional grounds that the government may not enter a home without "due notice.


"[53]

Eventually, the issue arose of whether or not the Fourth Amendment mandated the need to give notice to those within a home so as to satisfy the "reasonableness" of the entry of the home. Thus, in Wilson v. Arkansas, the United States Supreme Court decided this issue by looking at the "traditional protections against unreasonable searches and seizures afforded by the common law at the time of the framing."[54] There the court recognized the need for the government to give notice to those within the home.


It said:

(1) It reduces the potential for violence to both the police officers and the occupants of the house into which entry is sought; (2) it guards against the needless destruction of private property; and (3) it symbolizes the respect for individual privacy summarized in the adage that "a man's house is his castle.


"[55]



Although the court skirted around saying that violations against the common law would be deemed a violation of the Fourth Amendment, the court recognized the importance of traditional views of privacy in one's home-a major factor in deciding the "reasonableness" of any search conducted in a citizen's home.-and consequently developed the "knock-and-announce" rule, which required the police to make known to the occupants of the home that the police were there to search the home or make an arrest pursuant to a warrant.


[56]


FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SECURITY ACT: AN EXCEPTION TO REASONABLE SEARCHES


While it has become strongly settled that police must knock-and-announce their entry into a home with a warrant in cases involving domestic criminal cases, American jurisprudence has recognized a distinction between searching for domestic criminal investigation and foreign intelligence security.[57] In United States v. U.S. District Court, the United States Supreme Court recognized the difference between the two: "Given these potential distinctions between Title III criminal surveillances and those involving the domestic security, Congress may wish to consider protective standards for the latter (foreign intelligence security) which differ from those already prescribed for specified crimes in Title III.


"[58]

Different standards may be compatible with the Fourth Amendment if they are "reasonable both in relation to the legitimate need of Government for intelligence information and the protected rights of our citizens."[59] Six years after U.S. v. U.S. District Court, in 1978, Congress passed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which established a separate legal regime for "foreign intelligence" surveillance.[60] Although FISA did not permit the physical entry of a home/building (and only included eavesdropping and wiretaps), Congress amended FISA in 1994 to include physical entries "in connection with 'security' investigations.


"[61]

In FISA, Congress lowered the standards to conduct surveillance investigations when it involved foreign agents and crimes involving national security. Juxtaposed to the Fourth Amendment requirement, i.e. that probable cause exist that a particular person has committed a crime, FISA allowed surveillance "based on a finding of probable cause that the surveillance target is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power, irrespective of whether the target is suspected of engaging in criminal activity."[62] Furthermore, foreign intelligence had to be "the purpose" for the surveillance.


[63]

Under this new standard of foreign intelligence searches, the government was theoretically able enter one's home pursuant to the "sneak-and-peek" provision, exempting the traditional knock-and-announce rule, although the extent of this ability was not settled.[64] Essentially, FISA allowed the government to authorize sneak-and-peek warrants in cases involving "foreign powers and their agents" suspected of terrorism and other serious threats to security.


[65]

The sneak-and-peek provision of FISA allows the FBI to enter the sanctity of one's home without giving that person notice for a certain period time (under certain conditions).[66] Though these searches invaded the province of one's "expectation of privacy," the language of FISA limited the searches to foreign agents and there had to be probable cause that they were involved with espionage-type activity.


[67]

Not only did the language in FISA attempt to preserve the secured liberties in the Fourth Amendment by limiting the searches to foreign agents and to acts involving serious threats of national security, but also the courts recognized the need to subdue government searches of one's home. In their attempts to maintain the balance of secured individual rights guaranteed by the Constitution and the government's interest of pursuing terrorism, courts in the past have limited the sneak-and-peek search to situations where "notification would endanger the life or physical safety of an individual; result in flight from prosecution, destruction of evidence or intimidation of witnesses; or otherwise seriously impair the investigation or delay trial.


"[68]

Furthermore, when cases have involved "physical searches, the courts have allowed delayed notice to the occupants only in very limited contexts.where there is serious danger to life or evidence, and only with respect to serious crimes, and only on a case-by-case basis."[69] While, at first glance, the statutory provisions may seem to have violated what society has "accepted as reasonable" for the past 40 years, FISA actually considered the reasonableness standards of the Fourth Amendment, and courts have limited the situation where a sneak-and-peek search may be conducted. Also, the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure have strengthened the courts rulings that a delayed-notice search may be conducted only under exigent circumstances.


[70]

However, the situations above addressed activities involving foreign powers and their agents, and not U.S. citizens. The question must be turned to, what did FISA do to protect U.S. citizens in light of Fourth Amendment concerns. FISA has a provision that states: "if the target is a 'U.S. person,' there must be probable cause to believe that the U.S. person's activities may involve espionage or other similar conduct in violation of the criminal statutes of the United States."[71] Thus, FISA did not allow searches of U.S. citizens when the crimes involved "ordinary crimes" and not crimes of "terrorism.


"[72]


PATRIOT ACT: NEW PROVISIONS AND REDEFINITIONS SUBJECT U.S.


CITIZENS' HOMES TO UNREASONABLE SEARCHES AND SEIZURES



While FISA arguably attempted to secure the liberties of the citizens of the United States by focusing the searches to foreign agents and acts of espionage, the Patriot Act broadens the definition of "terrorism" and leaves the United States citizens open for unreasonable searches and seizures, exposing their "expectations of privacy" to governmental intrusion and criminal investigation. As noted above, courts have made a distinction between "ordinary crimes" and crimes involving espionage and terrorism for a "foreign power," thus limiting searches into one's home in limited circumstances.




Under FISA, the government could only conduct the searches allowed under the act when the crimes involved "foreign intelligence crimes" and when the person involved in such crime is a "foreign power" or an agent thereof.[73] The importance of these definitions is critical in analyzing whether or not a search is reasonable to society in protecting the secured liberties of privacy in the Fourth Amendment.




The most pertinent definitions for the purposes of protecting the Fourth Amendment liberties are the provisions applicable to U.S. citizens.[74] Congress amended FISA when they passed the Patriot Act in response to the September 11th attack on the United States and broadened not only the scope of the government's ability to search and investigate foreign intelligence crimes and terrorism, but also the definitions of what terrorism is.[75] Again, if it has been concluded that searches are reasonable when they do not search U.S.


citizens and when "the purpose" is for foreign intelligence investigation (not for criminal prosecution) the critical issue becomes, what is "terrorism" according to the Patriot Act? Section 802 of the Patriot Act defines "domestic terrorism" as activities that:

(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

(B) appear to be intended--

(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion;[76]



These provisions of the Patriot Act broaden the definition of "terrorism" to include U.S. citizens who commit any of these broad and vague acts, not limited to crimes involving traditional notions of terrorism. The result of this definition broadening threatens the secured liberties by subjecting U.S. citizens' homes to relaxed procedural safeguards, contrary to the recognized and accepted procedures since the inception of this country.




Since this statute has not been in place for very long, the courts have not had many opportunities to address the Constitutional issues of these new definitions and new provisions of FISA and how they will apply practically to U.S. citizens.[77] However, using strict statutory construction, a U.S. citizen will be subject to unreasonable searches if any U.S. citizen's acts involve "danger to human life." One could come up with endless possibilities where traditional ideas of "ordinary crimes" would fall into this provision. Moreover, any activities that "appear" to be intended to "influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion" also fall into the jurisdiction of this statute.[78] At first glance, this could very likely include political speech unwelcomed by the powers that be.


[79]

Before dismissing such statutory constructions, one must consider historical applications of similar situations. Illustrative of how such provisions can be used against U.S. citizens contrary to the written purpose of the statute, it is now public knowledge that the FBI has admitted to conducting a massive search against millions of U.S. citizens during the McCarthy period, including Martin Luther King. Even with stricter procedural safeguards and more narrowly defined definitions of "terrorism" in FISA, the government was able to get millions of warrants from a "disinterested" judge (as is required for searches to be considered reasonable under the Fourth Amendment) to conduct searches of U.S. citizens.


[80]

Assuming that these new definitions have a broadening practical impact on the implementation of searches and seizures, the next questions turns to, to what extent can the government violate U.S. citizens' "reasonable expectations of privacy?" To better understand the scope of such impact, it is also important to analyze "the purpose" aspect of FISA searches and how the Patriot Act changes such provision.




In FISA, there is the "primary purpose" limitation on the government's search. Under such provision, the government could not search unless its "primary purpose" was for foreign intelligence information. However, under section 218, the Patriot Act states that foreign intelligence only need be a "significant purpose" of the government's search.[81] The issue can be put in another way: even if the definition of terrorism is broadened, should not the "significant purpose" limitation on the government to search U.S. citizens keep the government from using such searches as means to collect evidence to prosecute U.S.


citizens?

Common sense makes it obvious that if the government discovers terrorism or conspiracies of such terrorism it will use such information to prosecute the individuals because prosecuting is another tool the government can use to deter and desist terrorism.


[82] In In re Sealed Case, the foreign intelligence court recognized that the government can and does in fact use information gathered for "the purpose" of "foreign intelligence" in criminal investigations and prosecution:

The government might wish to surveil the agent [of foreign powers] for some period of time to discover other participant in a conspiracy or to uncover a foreign power's plans, but typically at some point the government would wish to apprehend the agent and it might be that only a prosecution would provide sufficient incentives for the agent to cooperate with the government. Indeed, the threat of prosecution might be sufficient to "turn the agent.


"[83]



As further noted in the House Report of FISA, Congress recognized that the government can use criminal trials to protect against terrorism: "Obviously, use of 'foreign intelligence information as evidence in a criminal trial is one way the Government can lawfully protect against clandestine intelligence activities, sabotage, and international terrorism."[84] Thus, "the purpose" limitation on the government's searches is not in reality limiting the government to only gathering foreign intelligence information, but allows them to use such information for purposes of criminal prosecution.




The court in In re Sealed Case went on to address whether U.S. citizens can be subject to searches when such searches can be used against them in a criminal prosecution. The court stated, "U.S. persons may be authorized targets, and the surveillance is part of an investigative process often designed to protect against the commission of serious crimes such as espionage, sabotage, assassination, kidnapping, and terrorist acts committed by or on behalf of foreign power."[85] This language would suggest that U.S. persons' are still protected by the Fourth Amendment protection of unreasonable searches and seizures because the searches for prosecution still must be connected not only to "serious crimes" but also to a "foreign power," shielding citizens from searches of "ordinary crimes." Thus, all other searches for "ordinary crime" prosecution would be protected by the Fourth Amendment.


[86]

However, with the Patriot Act amending FISA, "terrorism" no longer includes only serious crimes connected to foreign powers, but includes "domestic terrorism" activities that have no connection to foreign powers and are not "serious crimes."[87] All that is needed, it seems, is that there be some activity that "appears" to be "intended" "to intimidate or coerce a civilian population," or "to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion."[88] Furthermore, the primary purpose of the search no longer needs to be for gathering foreign intelligence information, but only needs to be a "significant purpose."[89] As the court noted in In re Sealed Case, this means that "the primary purpose" of the search can be for prosecution.


The court states,

Given our experience in FISA surveillances and searches, we find that these provisions&particularly those which authorize criminal prosecutors to advise FBI intelligence officials on the initiation&are designed to enhance the acquisition, retention and dissemination of evidence for law enforcement purposes, instead of being consistent with the need of the United States to "obtain, produce, and disseminate foreign intelligence information.


[90]



The Patriot Act essentially allows the government to search U.S. citizens when it involves "domestic terrorism" (which has not been further defined in case law) for purposes of criminal investigation. As a result, the government may search U.S. citizens' home under FISA and the Patriot Act pursuant to very relaxed Constitutional procedures.


[91]


"WAR ON TERROR" SUSPENDS SECURED LIBERTIES TO AN INDEFINITE END


Since the attacks on September 11, 2001, President G.W. Bush has adopted and used the phrase "the war on terror" repeatedly when advocating and promoting the newly passed Patriot Act, and it has created the atmosphere in America that we are in fact fighting a war against a known enemy. As discussed earlier, the government has a seemingly natural tendency to ignore the secured liberties in the U.S. and Bill of Rights during times of war. Furthermore, some citizens may be more willing to give up their secured liberties to obtain a sense of security when they feel that the nation is in a state of "war.


"

Without getting too deep into the Constitutional grounds and debates of conducting a war, it is important to understand that a vague war declared by a President is at least a war with serious Constitutional problems, if not an unconstitutional war.[92] Put another way, war is defined by the enemy it is aimed against. Thus, using the Patriot Act's definition of terrorism, G.W. Bush's "war on terror" now includes a war against U.S. citizens who may be involved in "domestic terrorism," or activities that appear to be intended to influence the government.




The vagueness of the term "war on terror" raises the question, when will this "war on terror" end? In Thomas Walkom's article, "Bush Counts on War Without End," Walkom recognizes the potential for this "war" to never end because there is no definition to this war:

Is Afghanistan defeated and its former Taliban government in chains? No matter, says U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Afghanistan is small potatoes, the Taliban mere tools. The terrorists, we are told, live on. They are everywhere, part of the international conspiracy known as Al Qaeda.






Yet even Al Qaeda escapes definition. Each time its alleged leaders are identified, we are warned that more are hiding in the shadows. And whenever the world's attention flags, a new discovery is made. A notebook found in a bombed-out house in Kabul proves that Al Qaeda is planning a nuclear attack. A videotape found in Singapore demonstrates that Al Qaeda is preparing another terror bombing.


[93]



Taken to its logical level, U.S. citizens will always be the subjects of a vague and ever-continuing war, while at the same time Americans would embrace the new provisions that threaten their secured rights by the Constitution. As a result, secured liberties will never be restored as long as this "war" continues, assuming that it is only during times of war that citizens accept searches that have traditionally been held to be unconstitutional as reasonable.





THE BALANCE OF SECURED LIBERTIES AND GOVERNMENT POWER MUST BE MAINTAINED



Since before the formation of the United States Constitution, western civilization has accepted the importance of the privacy of one's home, and America's founding fathers incorporated such principle into the U.S. Constitution as our "secured liberties."[94] As well, for over two hundred years, American courts have interpreted the Fourth Amendment to mandate certain procedures to protect a U.S. citizen from being the subject of unreasonable searches by the government. The courts have required that the government have probable cause that an individual has committed a crime, that the government obtain a warrant to search one's home, and that the government knock-and-announce their entrance; and it was only in very limited circumstances that a government agent enter one's home without notifying the occupant.


[95]

Since the enactment of FISA and the Patriot Act, however, our traditional notions of privacy in U.S. citizens' homes have been seriously compromised.[96] Even though FISA attempted to balance the government's interest in desisting terrorism in America by allowing the government to search U.S. homes for foreign intelligence information and for serious crimes in connection to foreign powers, the Patriot Act has drastically redefined what terrorism is, thus reshaping the jurisdiction the government has to conduct searches of U.S. citizens' homes and more. The government no longer must search for intelligence purposes only, but may search homes for criminal investigation purposes. Furthermore, a citizen does not have to be suspected of a serious crime in connection with a foreign power, but may be suspected of activities political in nature.




The founding fathers spoke of the balance of the government and of the "self-governing" nature of this democratic-republic.[97] The Fourth Amendment demonstrates this balance as well as any other Constitutional provision because it incorporates the term "reasonable" as the criteria for government's searches.[98] The term "reasonable" is a term that requires balance--balance between individual's secured liberties



and the government's interest in fighting crime. Thus, it is possible to understand how the Fourth Amendment's "reasonable" language can allow more relaxed standards for searches during times of war given the opposing pulls of individual liberties and government's security interest.




However, in America's current "war on terrorism" climate, American citizens can easily become the target of the war;[99] and what's more disturbing is the indefiniteness and unknown length of this war.[100] America has always experienced terrorism and always will. But for the first time in American history, we have entered a war with an enemy that is broader and more vague than any other, leaving the relaxed Constitutional protections against unreasonable searches and seizures in place indefinitely.


As a result, American homes can become grounds for criminal investigation, without the traditional protection of the Fourth Amendment,[101] and if the American home can be intruded into-the most fundamental place of privacy-what will not be subject to government intrusion?[102]

"Security, not at the expense of secured liberties": it is the duty of every citizen to maintain the balance of secured liberties and governmental power and intrusion. Understanding the Constitutional significance of these newly enacted provisions of the Patriot Act should motivate every liberty-loving citizen to make their voice heard through their vote and political persuasion. It is important that every U.S. citizen understand that liberty is not to be given, it is to be taken. With this in mind, maybe America will maintain its traditional notions of secured liberty while balancing the need for security.






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[1] See Declaration of Independence, 1776.




[2] Grant, Sally, "Freedom Under Attack," Baltimore Sun, April 2, 2003, http://www.

commondreams. org/views03/0402-08. htm ("during these troubled times, we see history repeating itself").




[3] See U.S. U.S. Constitution, Amend.


4

[4] http:/http://www. conspiracyplanet. com/channel. cfm.




[5] The USA Patriot Act: Violating Reasonable Expectations of Privacy Protected by the Fourth Amendment Without Advancing National Security, 82 N.C.L. Rev. 412, Dec. 2003, p. 415.




[6] See Id. at p. 454.




[7] Id.




Music http://www.

freerepublic. com/focus/f-news.




[9] See Ex Parte Milligan, 71 U.S. 2, 18, 30 (U.S. 1866).




[10] Id.




[11] Grant, Sally, "Freedom Under Attack," Baltimore Sun, April 2, 2003, http://www.

commondreams. org/views03/0402-08. htm.


(Justice Robert Jackson said, 'Freedom to differ is not limited to things that do not matter much,' said the court. 'That would be a mere shadow of freedom'."); Debs v. U.S., 249 US 211 (1919).




[12] http://www.

freerepublic. com/focus/news/868606/posts.




[13] Brandenburb v.


Ohio, 89 S. Ct.


1827 (1969).




[14] Id.




[15] Korematsu v. U.S., 323 U.S.


214 (1944); http://www.

freerepublic. com/focus/news/868606/posts.




[16] www. freerepublic. com.




[17] http://www.

educate-yourself. org/cn/secretpatriotact12feb03. shtml, p. 1.




[18] http://www.

slate. msn. com/toolbar. aspx.




[19] Declaration of Independence, 1776.




[20] Id., United States U.S. Constitution, Preamble.




[21] See United States U.S. Constitution, Amendment IV.




[22] Entick v. Carrington, Howell's State Trials 1029, 95 Eng. 807 (1705).




[23] http://www.

caselaw. lp. findlaw. com/data/U. S.


Constitution/amendment04/01.html.




[24] Entick v. Carrington, Howell's State Trials 1029, 95 Eng. 807 (1705).




[25] United States U.S. Constitution, Amend. IV.




[26] http://www.

caselaw. lp. findlaw. com/data/U. S.


Constitution/amendment04/01.html.




[27] Id.




[28] Katz v. U.S., 389 U.S. 347 (1967).




[29] Id. at 353 (1967) (Fourth Amendment protects people, not areas).




[30] Id.




[31] Id.




[32] Id., at 352.




[33] Id.




[34] Warden v. Hayden, 387 U.S. 294, 304 (1967) (italics added).




[35] Id., See Also Harlan concurrence, Katz, 360-61.




[36] Mancusi v. DeForte, 392 U.S. 364, 368 (1968) (official had a reasonable expectation of privacy in an office he shared with others, although he owned neither the premises nor the papers seized). Minnesota v. Olson, 495 U.S. 91 (1990) (overnight guest in home has a reasonable expectation of privacy).




[37] Rakas v. Illinois, 439 U.S. 128 (1978).




[38] U. S. v. Vicknair, 610 F.2d 372 (5th Cir. 1980) (italics added); See also W. Blackstone, Commentaries, Book 2, ch.




[39] State v. Taylor, 114 Nev. 1071, 968 P.2d 315 (1998).




[40] Katz, 361, See also, United States v. Miller, 425 U.S. 435 (1976) (bank records); Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735 (1979) (numbers dialed from one's telephone); Hudson v. Palmer, 468 U.S. 517 (1984) (prison cell); Illinois v. Andreas, 463 U.S. 765 (1983) (shipping container opened and inspected by customs agents and resealed and delivered to the addressee); California v. Greenwood, 486 U.S. 35 (1988) (garbage in sealed plastic bags left at curb for collection).




[41] http://www.

caselaw. lp. findlaw. com/data/U. S.


Constitution/amendment04/01.html.




[42] See also United States v.


Karo, 104 S. Ct.


3296, 3303, 3304 (1984).




[43] Landynski, Search and Seizure and the Supreme 25 (1966).




[44] Hirshcel, David J., Fourth Amendment Rights, Lexington Books, D.C. Company, Lexington Mass., 1979, p. 153.




[45] Miller v. US, 357 US 301, 307 (1958), See Also, Agnello v. US, 269 U.S. 20 (1925)(even though man lived in back of grocery store, police still needed warrant to search because it was his home), Trupiano v.


US, 68 S. Ct.


1229 (1948)(police needed warrant to search private barn even though it was not a home because it was not open to the public), Johnson v. US, 333 U.S. 10 (1948)(police needed a warrant to search a hotel room).




[46] Boyd v. US, 116 US 616 (1886).




[47] Zarr, Melvyn, The Bill of Rights and the Police, 2nd Ed., Oceana Publications, Inc., Dobbs Ferry, New York, 1980, p. 123.




[48] Id.




[49] Id.




[50] LaFave, Wayne R., Search and Seizure, A Treatise on the Fourth Amendment, 3rd Ed., Vol. 3, St. Paul, Minn., West Publishing Co., 1996, p. 223-254.




[51] Id., at p. 282.




[52] Id., See 5 Coke 91, 77 Eng. Rep. 194 (K.B. 1603).




[53] Id.




[54] Wilson v.


Arkansas, 115 S. Ct.


1914 (1995).




[55] Id. (italics added).




[56] Hall, John Wesley, Jr., Search and Seizure, The Lawyers Co-operative Publishing Co., Rochester, NY, 1982, p. 542.




[57] United States v. U.S. District Court, 407 U.S. 297 (1972).




[58] Id.




[59] Id.




[60] http://www.

epic. org/privacy/terroirsm/fisa.




[61] Id.




[62] Id.




[63] http://www.

slate. msn. com/toolbar. aspx.




[64] Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("FISA"), §§ 101(i), 105(c)(2)(B), 501(a)(1); American Civil Liberties Union v. U.S. Dept. of Justice, 265 F. Supp. 2d 20, 23-24 (D.D.C. 2003) ("Before the enactment of the Patriot Act, a court's ability to approve a sneak-and-peek warrant under FED. R. CRIM. P. 41, which clearly required notice when tangible property is actually seized, was not entirely settled.") E.g., United States v. Pangburn, 983 F.2d 449, 453-55 (2d Cir.1993) (holding that Rule 41 also requires that notice be provided where a search warrant "authorizes covert entry to seize intangibles").




[65] In re: Sealed Case, 310 F. 3d 717, 723 (U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Ct. 2002).




[66] 18 U.S.C. § 3103(a) (2002).




[67] In re: Sealed Case, 310 F. 3d 717, 723 (U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Ct. 2002).




[68] Brandt, Elizabeth Barker, The USA Patriot Act: The Devil is in the Details, 46-DEC Advocate (Idaho) 24, December 2003.




[69] Id.




[70] Fed. R. Crim. Proc., 41.




[71] Brandt, Elizabeth Barker, The USA Patriot Act: The Devil is in the Details, 46-DEC Advocate (Idaho) 24, December 2003.




[72] In re: Sealed Case, 310 F. 3d 717, 739 (U.S. Foreign Intell. Surveillance Court 2002).




[73] 50 U.S.C. § 1801.




[74] Id.




[75] Lincenberg, Gary S., "A Patriotic Critique of the Patriot Act: The Antiterrorism Legislation that Congress Passed in Haste is a Threat to Civil Liberties," 24-Feb L.A. Law. 52 (Feb. 2002).




[76] Patriot Act § 802

[77] Id.




[78] Id.




[79] See 50 U.S.C.A.


1861; http://www.

eff. org/censorship/terrorism_militias/patriot-act-II-analysis. php (the patriot act "allows police to attend community meetings, religious services and other associational activities as a matter of course with no judicial oversight to prevent abuse").




[80] The Dangers of Domestic Spying by Federal Law Enforcement: A Case Study of FBI Surveillance of Dr. Martin Luther King (the ACLU notes that the FISA statute was used to spy on King for his politically incorrect speech.).




[81] 50 U.S.C.A.


1804(a)(7)(B)

[82] See In re: Sealed Case

[83] Id.; See also 50 U.S.C.A.


1801(h) and 1821(4)

[84] Id.




[85] Id. at 726. (italics added).




[86] Id. ("Congress clearly intended a lesser showing of probably cause for these activities than that applicable to ordinary criminal cases"); See also 50 U.S.C.A.


1801(b)(2)(A)

[87] http://www.

eff. org/censorship/terrorism_militias/patriot-act-II-analysis. php (USAPA II allows an individual with no affiliation with foreign government or a terrorist organization to be deemed a 'foreign power' for purposes of FISA surveillance of that person and those associated with him).




[88] Id.; Patriot Act § 101, 102.




[89] Patriot Act § 218.




[90] In re: Sealed Case, at 729.




[91] See 50 U.S.C.A. 3103; Smith, Jeremy C., "The USA Patriot Act: Violating Reasonable Expectations of Privacy Protected by the Fourth Amendment Without Advancing National Security," 82 N.C. L.Rev. 412, 427 (Dec. 2003) ("Warrantless wiretaps of domestic groups disregard the importance of warrants by ignoring the domestic-foreign distinction") (italics added).




[92] U.S. U.S. Constitution, Article I, § 8, cl. 11-16.




[93] Thomas Walkom's article, "Bush Counts on War Without End,"

[94] Declaration of Independence, 1776.




[95] FISA §§ 101(i), 105(c)(2)(B), 501(a)(1); City of West Covina v. Perkins, 525 U.S.


234, 240, 119 S. Ct.


678, 142 L.Ed.2d 636 (1999) (suggesting that "when law enforcement agents seize property pursuant to warrant, due process requires them to take reasonable steps to give notice that the property has been taken so the owner can pursue available remedies for its return"), See also American Civil Liberties Union v. U.S. Dept. of Justice, 265 F. Supp. 2d 20, 23-24 (D.D.C. 2003) ("Before the enactment of the Patriot Act, a court's ability to approve a sneak-and-peek warrant under FED. R. CRIM. P. 41, which clearly required notice when tangible property is actually seized, was not entirely settled.") E.g., United States v. Pangburn, 983 F.2d 449, 453-55 (2d Cir.1993) (holding that Rule 41 also requires that notice be provided where a search warrant "authorizes covert entry to seize intangibles").




[96] American Civil Liberties Union v. U.S. Dept. of Justice, 265 F. Supp. 2d 20, 24 (D.D.C. 2003) (FN. 5. This clause allows for the modification of the requirement in Rule 41(f) (and perhaps in the U.S. Constitution as well) that notice be provided at the time that property is actually taken).




[97] Smith, Jeremy C., "The USA Patriot Act," at 436.
("the Act sanctions expanding law enforcement power to conduct searches without notice to the home, the area that the Fourth Amendme
September 17, 2008 3:37 PM
 

that N____R Jhamal said:

SEARS TOWER said:
HOW MANY TRUE AMERICAN'S OUT THERE?

HOW IS IT WAS TAXS PAYERS CAN HELP BAIL OUT ALL THESE BIG NAME COMPANIES

BUT WHEN WE NEED OUR MONEY TO HELP OUR GOT DAMN SELF, THEY TELL US TO GO FUCK OURSELF..

I MEAN ITS AMERICANS THAT ABOUT TO GET KICK OUT THEY CRIBS CAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD THE PAYMENTS

WHERE IS THEY BAIL OUT MONEY?

HOW THE FUCK A BANK RUN OUT OF MONEY?

WE PAYING FOR A WAR THAT DON'T NOBODY WANT..

SO AGAIN

HOW MANY TRUE AMERICANS DO WE HAVE ON HERE?

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Actually it's not this generation that's gonna be the bail out...Yes that's right ur kids get to pay that Debt off yea.....SMH
September 17, 2008 3:37 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

LOL @ Savvy: What middle school you go to wit all the name calling. You barken @ the moon,but not biting the man walking in your back yard. Stop acting like you Hard & shit I just call what I see...you A phony
September 17, 2008 3:37 PM
 

St.Louis Misery said:

fucc R. Kelly the child molester
September 17, 2008 3:38 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

 D-block 4life said:
What middle school you go to wit all the name calling. You barken @ the moon,but not biting the man walking in your back yard.  

LMFAO@D-block hahahahah nigga said "barkin' at the moon" lmfaooooo
September 17, 2008 3:39 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

@ J Rucker,

Yea those lines he spit was; allot of emotions coming out..
my favorite one is this part

And here's three words: stop working mine
It take a lot more to hurt my pride
Jerk my vibe more than media lies, cry when dirt dog die nigga
The last album wasn't feeling my style
This time my foot up in they ass but they feelin' me now
Cause Tical, he put his heart in every track he do
But somehow yall find someway to give a whack review
It ain't all good, they writin' that I'm Hollywood
Tryin' to tell you my shit ain't ghetto and they hardly hood
September 17, 2008 3:42 PM
 

Knowl said:


Just_Rude said:
JRucker said:

How can I forget mef ya'll, Method man is ill on the mic
Meth has a crzy line in that song... "when death calls, I'm good, i got call ID"... somethin like that, i cant listen to youtube at work... but that song is bangin, and has a point.
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JRucker do you remember the line that he spit...
"Nigga chew gum with they ass and pop shit" ... i think it's on the in to deep sound track ... that's a serious ass line people keep sleeping on meth.... and you got that line right word for word...
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Not to jump in the Math convo, but he's deceptively clever With lines like "Bust shots at Big Ben like we got time to kill" is straight Meth. Simple but effective.
September 17, 2008 3:46 PM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

@ LT Brown, hola ma! Ty for tha info, lemme go make sure I am still registered!!!!! Thanks for tha shout out too!
September 17, 2008 3:49 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

@ Kulluminati 187,

Teddy bear hugs right back atcha... lol at myself because at one point I said to a few others I don't give out hugs on AHH..lmao..

Anyhoo..I've been in the hospital still am for another 9 to 8 weeks..so that's why I been gone for awhile..but im lurking best believe that..lol now that i got my laptop today I will be around more often trust..

How you been?
September 17, 2008 3:50 PM
 

MACCAPONE said:

WOW CUZZ
September 17, 2008 3:50 PM
 

B*braze said:

BlackPeople 1 said:

mari, all of us in here know hip hop music has a stronger pull, sway and influence on black people than politics.

but people are pretending otherwise.

so that's why i wonder why none of these little pro-obama screamers don't talk about the trashy ass garbage audio entertainment product that's out.

why not speak out on that?

if they want "change" so bad, why not change that?

the drum affects people of color instantly.

naw. see? there i go again.
i forgot people want you to act like they are slow.

then that way responsibility can be reduced.

okay. let's just say it like this for everybody.

music has a stonger effect on you than politics.
why not act on changing that?
*************************
what up BP1. i know you aint s'posed to answer a question wit a question but... i got a question. do you think the music industry is as much on autopilot as the government is at this point? you not gone vote right? they say a non vote is just as much as a vote for the winner since people gon get out there and vote anyway.

the top selling hiphop records arent bein bought by the supposed target demo. its mostly suburban white folks buyin the shit as well as some record labels buying their own cds to boost numbers as well as the whole "payola" thing that got the radio stations playin the bullshit music we hear.

aside from doin what i already do... not buyin them bullshit cds or listenin to these bullshit radio stations... what else do you think we should do? and is sittin back and not doin nothin the same as not voting?
September 17, 2008 3:51 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

Dam sears tower, that was a long ass freaking post..shieet..copy and paste does a brother good..
September 17, 2008 3:51 PM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

@Ltbrown
Thanks for the trivia, knowledge, shoutout and the link for everybody to vote.  You on ya mommy stuff today, makin sure things get done in order.  What's good???????
September 17, 2008 3:52 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

HOW MANY TRUE AMERICAN'S OUT THERE?

HOW IS IT WE AS TAXS PAYERS CAN HELP BAIL OUT ALL THESE BIG NAME COMPANIES

BUT WHEN WE NEED OUR MONEY,

TO HELP OUR GOT DAMN SELF, THEY TELL US TO GO FUCK OURSELF..

I MEAN ITS AMERICANS" THATS ABOUT TO GET KICK OUT THEY OWN  CRIBS CAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD THE PAYMENTS

WHERE IS THEY BAIL OUT MONEY?

HOW THE FUCK A BANK RUN OUT OF MONEY?

WE PAYING FOR A WAR THAT DON'T NOBODY WANT..

SO AGAIN

HOW MANY TRUE AMERICANS DO WE HAVE ON HERE?

SINCE WE BAIL OUT THESE COMPANIES
DON'T THAT MEAN WE NOW OWN A % OF THE COMPANY
September 17, 2008 3:53 PM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

@ D Block 4 Life

Im phony cuz I dont got it on youtube??? Yea aight..LOL...My bad from now on Ill bring my camcorder, laptop, USB drive, video editing software & everything else needed whereever I go(even if its to the grocery store) so the next time something "out of the ordinary" happens you can have proof! lol

Is that what the world comin to?? nigga cant even come on a social networking site & share a story unless he got it uploaded on youtube

SMH @ internet lames
September 17, 2008 3:53 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@SEARS TOWER said:
R.Kelly Speaks....His Truth!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ubab3uT72w

THIS MOTHERFUC***!

=======================
I can't watch the R. Kelly video you put up because you've got it private. Damn! lmao I rushed back here for that. Release it! lol
September 17, 2008 3:54 PM
 

MACCAPONE said:

WOW NINERS UP CUZZ
September 17, 2008 3:55 PM
 

MACCAPONE said:

WOW NINERS UP CUZZ
September 17, 2008 3:55 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

Who has already more than 5 friends to Ahh SPACE?

YO, i been bugged out on the new formatt, shit is kind of wack.. but im open to changes..so lets see how long this lasts..
September 17, 2008 3:58 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

@TupacFan

oh whateva..I'm an exception! I'm ya ahh boo, u can't not e-hug me.  ;)
September 17, 2008 4:02 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@50 CENT VS BARACK!?
Nah…Barack and Curtis is a new short documentary by Byron Hurt. Here is the trailer.
==================================
Byron. I hate to hurt your feelings but this is politically incorrect. 50 Cent supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries and Dubya after Katrina. He's John McCaining, actually [Out of touch or just won't look]. lmao
September 17, 2008 4:03 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

Alright im out, looks like everyone in the IC or somewhere..
September 17, 2008 4:04 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

Alright im out, looks like everyone in the IC or somewhere..
September 17, 2008 4:04 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@CLASSYBITCH said:
Quote of the Day:  Love isn’t complicated if we love EXACTLY how we wish to be loved.
==========================
Whooooooooo haaaaaaaaaa. Got you all in check!!!! lmao

oh,.....Cosign. lol

*tipping out of church with the 1 finger raised.*
September 17, 2008 4:05 PM
 

B*braze said:

SEARS TOWER said:
HOW MANY TRUE AMERICAN'S OUT THERE?

HOW IS IT WE AS TAXS PAYERS CAN HELP BAIL OUT ALL THESE BIG NAME COMPANIES

BUT WHEN WE NEED OUR MONEY,

TO HELP OUR GOT DAMN SELF, THEY TELL US TO GO FUCK OURSELF..

I MEAN ITS AMERICANS" THATS ABOUT TO GET KICK OUT THEY OWN  CRIBS CAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD THE PAYMENTS

WHERE IS THEY BAIL OUT MONEY?

HOW THE FUCK A BANK RUN OUT OF MONEY?

WE PAYING FOR A WAR THAT DON'T NOBODY WANT..

SO AGAIN

HOW MANY TRUE AMERICANS DO WE HAVE ON HERE?

SINCE WE BAIL OUT THESE COMPANIES
DON'T THAT MEAN WE NOW OWN A % OF THE COMPANY
*********************
tabernacle
September 17, 2008 4:06 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

@TupacFan

and damn!!  u been in the hospital?!? what's wrong wit my babyyyyyyyy!?!?!?!?!?
September 17, 2008 4:07 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

PEOPLE NEED TO STOP MAKING EXCUSESS FOR THESES FAST ASS GIRLS

WHO ARE GOING AROUND FUCKING THESE GROWN ASS MEN..


EVERYBODY TALKING HOW DUMB R. KELLY IS

HE AINT TO DUMB

HE SMARTER THEN THE PARENTS OF THE GIRLS HE HAD SEX WITH...

ITS THE LITTLE GILRS THAT WAS DUMB

CAUSE THE COULD HAVE BEEN A RAPE AND MURDER  TRIAL

SO IF YOU GOT KIDS WALKING AROUND HERE THINKING THEY GROWN

DRESESIN LIKE THEY GROWN

WHEN SOME OLD MAN HIT THE WITH THAT GROWN DICK

DON'T GET MAD AT THE OLD MAN

GET MAD AT YO GOT DAMN SELF

FOR LETTING YO CHILD WALK OUT THE HOUSE LIKE THAT..

AND NOT TAKING THE TIME TO RAISE HER RIGHT!

SO IF R. KEELY NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL

THEN THE GIRLS HE HAD SEX WITH NEED TO BE IN BOOT CAMP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E9nJNTgv_s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVgCoTCwMo

September 17, 2008 4:09 PM
 

LBoogie81 said:

Why is hip-hop the only music genre where artists can't drop an album on their planned date?
September 17, 2008 4:10 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

braze. one sec....
September 17, 2008 4:11 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

LTBROWN said:
@SEARS TOWER said:
R.Kelly Speaks....His Truth!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ubab3uT72w

THIS MOTHERFUC***!

=======================
I can't watch the R. Kelly video you put up because you've got it private. Damn! lmao I rushed back here for that. Release it! lol



YOU SAYING I GOT THE HOOK UP? LOL
September 17, 2008 4:11 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@Tommy K

@ LTBROWN

Hey, I was wondering… not to be complaining again but you know how my title says “TommyK [AHH Veteran and “big brother”. Un-banned and back in business. Lol]”?, Well I was thinking that you might want to take this into consideration...

I pretty much look at you as a big sister being that I’m so much younger than most of the people on here (21). Oh and I don’t know if you could use Un-banned because I never got that account back lol. I had to make a new one (Tommy K.). So maybe, my title should go like “Tommy K. [AHH Veteran and “lil brother”. Non-banned new account and back in business Lol]” You know you don’t have to but it’s just a thought. I hope you have a great day though!
=================================
Nah. I'm not going too. Not until I'm back working on those. You've gotten a change and others haven't.They will before you get another. Stop that, lil brother.
Also "Big Brother" is a reference to you spying into folks accounts. You know? Like illegal wiretapping and the Patriot Act? That kind of big brother. lol I'm having a full day as always. How about you?
September 17, 2008 4:11 PM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

@SEARS TOWER
The fed had to do what they did today but as far as the other companies, them shits just need to crumble.  The government needs to regulate all banks if they can say fuck off when they make record profits but get bailed out when they in trouble.  Shit is crazy, Obama 08
September 17, 2008 4:14 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

B*braze said:
tabernacle

WHAT DO U MEAN BY THAT?


IS THE GOV. FUCKING WITH OUR 401K
FOR ALL THIS BAIL OUT SHIT
September 17, 2008 4:15 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@CLASSYBITCH said:
Sooo…I’m on vacation!!!

I’m in Texas spending my bday with my Dad and southern fam.

Taking a vacation from technology too w/ the exception of my phone.

Those who need to reach me know how..

Those who wanna reach use the yahoo e-mail/IM..

Be Safe and Good...i'll touch back on the 25th

KISSEZ,

The CLASSY One
==============================
Try to have some fun Classy. Let your hair down and get buck wild! [legally]. lol After that close call last week, live our each day to the fullest to baby. I'm gonna miss ya.
September 17, 2008 4:17 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

I dont really mean put it on youtube LOL just being sarcastic:
but this is the new millenium Hip hop world. Why you think Hov
yelled out,We Dont believe you...you need more people.  
But even a camera phone record for 15 secs.
September 17, 2008 4:22 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Dayum dayum dayum Dayum
 
 [Pat Brown]
 Dickie shorts & Lincoln's clean
 leanin' checking out the scene
 Gangsta boys Bigga's lit ridin' out talkin' shit
 Nigga where you wanna go?
 You know the club don't close 'til four
 let's party 'til we can't no more
 Watch out here come the folks
 
 [Dre]
 As the plot thickens it gives me the dickens
 Reminiscent of Charles a li'l disco-tech
 nestled in the ghettoes of Niggaville, USA
 via Atlanta, Georgia a li'l spot where
 young men & young women go to experience
 they first li'l taste of the nightlife
 Me? Well I've never been there, well perhaps once
 But I was so engulfed in the Old "E"
 I never made it to the door you speak of hard core
 while the DJ sweatin' out all the problems
 and the troubles of the day
 While this fine bow-legged girl fine as all outdoors
 lulls lukewarm lullabies in your left ear
 competing with "Set it Off," in the right
 But it all blends perfectly let the liquor tell it
 "Hey hey look baby they playin' our song"
 And the crowd goes wild as if
 Holyfield has just won the fight
 But in actuality it's only about 3 A.M.
 and three niggas just don' got hauled
 off in the ambulance [sliced up]
 two niggas don' start bustin' [wham wham]
 and one nigga don' took his shirt off talkin' 'bout
 "Now who else wanna fuck with Hollywood Cole?"
 It's just my interpretation of the situation
 
 [Hook]
 
 [Big Boi]
 When I first met my SpottieOttieDopalicious Angel
 I can remember that damn thing like yesterday
 The way she moved reminded me of a Brown Stallion
 horse with skates on smooth like a hot comb
 on nappy ass hair
 I walked up on her & was almost paralyzed
 her neck was smelling sweeter
 than a plate of yams with extra syrup
 eyes beaming like four karats apiece just blindin' a nigga
 felt like I chiefed a whole O of that Presidential
 My heart was beating so damn fast
 never knowing this moment would bring another
 life into this world
 Funny how shit come together sometimes [ya dig]
 One moment you frequent the booty clubs &
 the next four years you & somebody's daughter
 raisin' y'all own young'n now that's a beautiful thang
 that's if you're on top of your game
 and man enough to handle real life situations [that is]
 Can't gamble feeding baby on that dope money
 might not always be sufficient but the
 United Parcel Service & the people at the Post Office
 didn't call you back because you had cloudy piss
 So now you back in the trap just that, trapped
 Go on and marinate on that for a minute
September 17, 2008 4:23 PM
 

SeanJohn81 said:

 LBoogie81 said:
Why is hip-hop the only music genre where artists can't drop an album on their planned date?  
-----------------------------------------------------
Labels know hip hop is a cash cow, they want a big buzz before the album drops but don't understand that if you wait to long 1 of 2 things happen a) the bootleggers or internet kill the demand or b) you loose ya buzz and the album doesn't get the first week push it needs to be successful.  Shit is crazy
September 17, 2008 4:24 PM
 

Ken_P said:

Savy_Da_Boss said:
nigga if you dont getcho PUSHA T lookin ass outta here with that durtty ass throwback & go comb that lil girl head!

I dont gotta post my life on youtube for you to believe shit...

Beerbelly head ass nigga! LOL
______________________
funniest shit i read all day

whattup ltbrown...been meaning to say that...i be forgettin

~givin junegemini the business
September 17, 2008 4:25 PM
 

DonLevon said:

stay in chicago and i know some 19yr old chicks that will make you avg. video vixen look like a flood damage pontiac.  but i wonder my niggs what if the age of consent was 16 or 15 will we still holla its ok she legal.


I cant take up 4 kellys i know some shit personal about that guy he sick as fuck. But why littel girls be outside after 11:00am looking for nigga to talk to them im happy as hell i dont have no girls becoues ill kick they ass all the way home and stop dressing like a cicreo hoe.
September 17, 2008 4:27 PM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

LBoogie81 said:
Why is hip-hop the only music genre where artists can't drop an album on their planned date?
----------------------------------------
Because hip hop is the only genre where fans are not loyal to an artist. They love you one minute hate you the next which means you have to create "hype" or excitement about a record in order for people to go buy it.  

Therefore you have to rev up "the machine" to get people to buy the product. Meaning everything has to be lined up, the single has to drop @ the right time, have to make sure the DJ's & raido station program directors are paid to spin the record NON STOP, then comes the publicity stunts (rapper goes 2 jail or sex tape), then they have 2 bail the rapper out, go to 106 & park, then they have to get a cover of a magazine, radio promo, etc etc etc

All that takes a lot of work & if everything is not set up right or the label doesnt feel the buzz is big about the album, theyll push the album back & start the process all over again until they get it right...

All that to only sell 300k records LOL
September 17, 2008 4:27 PM
 

CESS said:

Question!: The Blueprint vs. Stillmatic. Which is the better album?, You decide. Also All Eyes On Me vs. Life After Death?
---------------------------

BLUEPRINT.... and ALL EYEZ ON ME....

September 17, 2008 4:27 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

@ B*braze said:
all eyez > stillmatic > blueprint

i never understood the hype over jay z. he cool i guess but way overrated. i aint owned a jay z CD since reasonable doubt
-------------------------------------------------------------

i acutally kept buying jay cd's because for a min i did the DJ thing... he is great for a single or two but he's not a great artist like some people think he is ...

i know people gonna say i'm hating for this but he is no where near the best rapper alive....and he is no where near top 5 dead or alive
September 17, 2008 4:28 PM
 

DonLevon said:

LBoogie81 said:
Why is hip-hop the only music genre where artists can't drop an album on their planned date? _____________________________________________________
ya ever hear of nigga time baby
September 17, 2008 4:29 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@BlackPeople 1 said:
ay 518 and husslin.

don't the us produce enough oil for it's self?
isn't the dependency on foreign oil for the u.s. allies?


all of y'all.
what do y'all think has more direct, instant sway and influence over black people?

hip hop music or politics?
================================
Neither should have the monopoly. Because every person is different. Even Black People. There is no monolithic thinking among us just like any other race. So I would say,that answer for each individual would depend on how they open themselves up and what they open up too. What up BP1? lol
September 17, 2008 4:30 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

I said i Was gonna be out,

But uhh kulliminati 187 pulled me right back in..

LOL at exception.. Thas funny. But yea I been down for a few weeks now I think I stop counting days. I' have been diagnoise with leukemia about 11 months ago and I found my match for a bone marrow transplant therefore I been hospitalized for up to 11 weeks and so far my recovery has been okay its not the greatest feeling being isolated from ur friends and family so I'm riding it out. Now that I have my laptop with me here ill be online more often..
September 17, 2008 4:30 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

@ Knowl said:

Not to jump in the Math convo, but he's deceptively clever With lines like "Bust shots at Big Ben like we got time to kill" is straight Meth. Simple but effective.  
-----------------------------------------------------------
you good it's an open floor.. lol.. your right .. just like when he went at hot 97 when he said "radio liying then that ain't where the hip hop lives" ...
September 17, 2008 4:31 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

braze, i'm not speaking on my personal observations and decisions in regards to the political shit until either nov. 15th or much later.


okay.
but do i think the music is on autopilot?

hmm.
that's a serious question.

i think people's brains are on autopilot right now.
the shift has happened right before our eyes in like the last 10 or 11 years.

they have given up the will to think for themselves.

reduced to chanting "USA! USA! USA!"

or  "Stop hatin' on me. You just a hater."

the people's minds are on auto.

digest.
regurgitate.
repeat.

you say well what can you do?

i was jokin with a sister about there being 4 black people in santa monica and i made my way around to know all of them.

sike but ay, i go and kick it with one of the sisters around here and once she was like "my internet is down. i don't know what's goin on".

and i mentioned to her that she shouldn't worry.
we'll get our news the way we sposed to.

we'll acknowledge and talk to each other.

KRS-ONE gotta quote that goes a little somethin like this
"Many of you are educated, open ya mouth and speak..."

that is all you hafta do.

member when i gotta little mad and i told the jesus crew stop sayin all that shit cuz babies and children were looking?

when people start talkin about some wack or poisonous shit is "hot" or "bangin" call them on that shit.

ask them how???
that shit is hot or bangin compared to what???


we have strong history and cultural offerings.
know one should lie down and go quietly and accept this bullshit and call it black music.

that's all. just speak out when you see here something that ain't right.

everything is on your side.





oh yo, on the other stuff?

deciding not to play in a system is in effect doing something.

imagine if the 30 or so million of us in this wilderness of north america all did that at the same time and decided to create our own system.
September 17, 2008 4:32 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

hey classy been meaning to get at u.. Gimmie ya email so I can holla.
September 17, 2008 4:33 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@MissDallasTx214 said:
Ugh @ signs the world is coming to an end....Illseed I was eating!!!!! Im mad now....

Im glad Trae and Mike Jones sqaushed it because it was outta line and it wasn't a good look for Texas.

Shout out to tha fam:
LT Brown (1st and foremost coz Im always gettin love from her)
MeMe_Slim
c_a_k
hotnuknowit
JuanitaCashHawkins
adopefemalemc
Ichelle125
knowl
Kalibur
Willy Killem?
TaylorMade_TaylorBranded
Kappagem
Hellraiser
DGrudge
Tommy K
Crescent City Connecktor
Sears Tower
DaCatsMeow
Butterfly girl
BhuddaFii
AJ22
Bre_N_Tx
BlackPeople1
Haughville
tha clear

......Whats da deal ahh la familia!!!! Hope all is well with you all.

===================================
Haha What it do rumor lady? I use to have Dallas Cowboy earrings like your avy. We have tree ornaments too. Okay they were mine ornaments. lol That's my time. My own family's Christmas tree theme is still Blue and White. Love's my Cowboys. lol
September 17, 2008 4:33 PM
 

DonLevon said:

D-block 4life said:
I dont really mean put it on youtube LOL just being sarcastic:
but this is the new millenium Hip hop world. Why you think Hov
yelled out,We Dont believe you...you need more people.  
But even a camera phone record for 15 secs._________________________________________________

If he playing ball how he go tape the shit with a phone.  And if he from chicago he aint go tape the shit like some happy ass stan
September 17, 2008 4:33 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@SEARS TOWER said:
LTBROWN said:
@SEARS TOWER said:
R.Kelly Speaks....His Truth!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ubab3uT72w

THIS MOTHERFUC***!

=======================
I can't watch the R. Kelly video you put up because you've got it private. Damn! lmao I rushed back here for that. Release it! lol



YOU SAYING I GOT THE HOOK UP? LOL
=================================
Hell yeah! Like $59.95 cuz. lmao
September 17, 2008 4:34 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@Tupacfan said:
I said i Was gonna be out,

But uhh kulliminati 187 pulled me right back in..

LOL at exception.. Thas funny. But yea I been down for a few weeks now I think I stop counting days. I' have been diagnoise with leukemia about 11 months ago and I found my match for a bone marrow transplant therefore I been hospitalized for up to 11 weeks and so far my recovery has been okay its not the greatest feeling being isolated from ur friends and family so I'm riding it out. Now that I have my laptop with me here ill be online more often..
=-========================
I'm still praying for you! You're hella brave. Be blessed.
September 17, 2008 4:40 PM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

D-block 4life said:
I dont really mean put it on youtube LOL just being sarcastic:
but this is the new millenium Hip hop world. Why you think Hov
yelled out,We Dont believe you...you need more people.  
But even a camera phone record for 15 secs.
---------------------------
I guess if I felt the need to prove something I could do all of but I dont. I dont need 27 niggas on AHH to "co sign" ya feel me....I was sharing my encounter with R. Kelly since his name was being brought up & it's your choice to believe it or not.

I mean if niggas really need proof how I get it in on the court you more than welcome to come to the Chi & we can take it to the gym & Ill bust your ass like I bust Kell's ass & we can put it on youtube for AHH to see & let erbody "co sign" that...LOL



September 17, 2008 4:41 PM
 

LBoogie81 said:

Metallica released their newest album on Friday, instead of the usual Tues. for releases, and they sold 490,000 copies. They almost went gold for the week, and the album wasn't even available for the whole sales week. Why can't hip-hop fans give that same kind of devotion to our artists that the rock fans give to theirs? Why are Nas, Game, and others moving bricks, when artists like Metallica, whose fan base declined after that whole Napster thing, can still move units?
September 17, 2008 4:42 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

ay ltbrown.

i'm mad cuz i feel like i got cheated out of a summer.

i figure i had everybody back home beat on some "gotchu suckas" type shit by movin out here and here it is september and it's back to school weather.

and this bullshit at the beach ain't broke 80 degrees all spring or summer.


but yo,
you know on a wide general scale, music and entertainment directly influences and sways our people maybe 5-7 times more than politics.

in fact it's like

entertainment
entertainment
entertainment
religion
religion
religion
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
oh, who runnin for city councilman again?


you know i ain't lyin.
and we talkin on a general scale.

so with that being said, it look cowardly when people don't attack the quality and content of the current entertainment product with the same vehemence that they say go vote for this one or that one.

and i wanna know why.

(you know I gotta ask the grown up questions)
September 17, 2008 4:43 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

@TupacFan

aaawwww u poor thing!!!!!  damn baby girl!  I'm sorry 2 hear that...  u too gorgeous to be isolated from the world like that.  Get well very soon!! *mwah*

and yes I am an exception and u know it! :P
September 17, 2008 4:44 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Barack yOmama said:
@LL'S RECORDS SALES, UR SHITZ SELLIN LIKE GOAT MILK! ITZ BOUT TIME 2 HANG IT UP! EXIT 13, AIN'T NOBODY GONE SIGN U, NOT EVEN KOCH!

@R.KELL, YEA U RUNNIN ROUND LIKE DA PIED PIPPER NOW, U WILL SLIP UP W/ UR CRAVIN 4 TEENS. U DONE IN DA GAME MAN. STICK 2 PRODUCTION & WRITING!

@SARAH (THE PALE HORSE) PALIN, UR ANSWER 2 OUR GAS PROBLEMS IS DRILLIN 4 MORE OIL. DUMB MF'ER, WE HAV NEW TECHNOLOGY WHERE WE CAN USE WATER 4 FUEL. Y KILL THE PLANET MORE. GREEDY OIL MONKEY REPUBLICANS

@KANYE, LOVE LOCKDOWN IS A DISGRACE 2 HIP HOP, IF U GONE USE DA VOCODER, FREAK SUM SHIT NOT MAKE IT GAYER.

@GILBERT ARENAS, GAWDAM NIGGA U HAD ALL SUMMER 2 GET SURGERY, Y U WANNA FUCK UP THE WIZARDS ANOTHER YEAR.

@BABY OF CASHMONEY, I DONT NO HOW U CALL A GROWN AZZ MAN UR SON. STILL SOUNDS HOMO!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Some of the funniest ish I have read today...lol...sellin' like GOAT's milk...lmao...




September 17, 2008 4:46 PM
 

hotnuknowit said:

BlackPeople 1 said:

hotnuknowit, c'mere lemme smell and nuzzle ya neck and put my hand on the small of ya back and pull you close to me.

WAIT!

you want me to pee in ya butt????

naw!
that's that eurotrash shit. I'm not into that.

(you know i'm just messin with your "lemonade in the tailpipe" comment)
************************************************
See? you had me bout to throw it back atcha til the record stopped......LOL I'm not into it either FYI....LMAO!
September 17, 2008 4:47 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

l boogie, i'll answer your question.

but first i need to know the units moved for 3 albums.

illmatic
long live the kane
by all means necessary.

tell me what kinda numbers they did.

then we will talk about fan base, support, demographics and album sales.
September 17, 2008 4:47 PM
 

BlackSean said:

I mentally stab ya brain with the pain,
while other brothas spit mad games/I spit flames
You know my F'ing name, light joints with Mary Jane,
Johnny Blaze, get 'Mef Life' becuz it pays
Life insurance, indeed as we proceed,
to give the track menstral cramps until it bleed.
Who the bad guy? Its I, the chinky eye,
knotty-head rugged MC from N.Y.
City, my whole rap committee get busy
my Roots date back to Kizzy~now ask who is he

or a quick one

New York y'all, shoot or shank me I bleed Yankee
Im hot, dog... you ain't Nathan to put it frankly
************************************
Method Man is ridiculously-nasty... dudes can layer his rhymes like crazy

Biggie's lyrics top notch... for references, check "Warning" and/or "Niggas Bleed"

"The funny thing about it, thru all the excitement
they Range got towed/they double-parked by a hydrant
Stupid muthafuckas... (beep  beep  beep  beep...)"

And we built on this @ the barbershop last weekend:

'Pac was more of a motivational speaker, he was right around or slightly above average as a rapper/MC.

"Dear Mama" made the hardest cats pick up the phone or a Hallmark card... "Hit 'Em Up"  would make the softest dude ball up his fist & practice looking hard.  

Then a dude brought up how he'd get a pass for "Keep Your Head Up" and "Scandalous" not for its contradictions.... but how he represents the duality of man makes him more plausible

(That one floored everybody.  Yeah it was kinda deep, but the nigga who said it didn't graduate damn near gave me an asthma attack laffing)  How niggas pass Pac 101, but college prep English & Math is a mystery
*************************
And be honest.... show of hands who actually sing "Hail Mary" in their own tone & not their best 'Pac voice?  Stretching your words out, like "Follow meeeeee"  Lol

Dude said shit that tapped into your emotions~ Hip Hop was just the medium to get his point across.  
September 17, 2008 4:49 PM
 

B*braze said:

 SEARS TOWER said:
B*braze said:
tabernacle

WHAT DO U MEAN BY THAT?


IS THE GOV. FUCKING WITH OUR 401K
FOR ALL THIS BAIL OUT SHIT
**********************
i was agreein wit everything you said homie.
September 17, 2008 4:50 PM
 

Ken_P said:

LBoogie81 said:
Metallica released their newest album on Friday, instead of the usual Tues. for releases, and they sold 490,000 copies. They almost went gold for the week, and the album wasn't even available for the whole sales week. Why can't hip-hop fans give that same kind of devotion to our artists that the rock fans give to theirs? Why are Nas, Game, and others moving bricks, when artists like Metallica, whose fan base declined after that whole Napster thing, can still move units?
___________________
hip hop has an obsession with youth...niggas lie about their age in the rap game because the major fan base is young...these youngsters look at nas as an old nigga...the nigga saluateyageneral say it best..no country for old men...

the younger you are in the rap game, the better your chances are to sell...regardless of your history or legendary status...

other genres of music encourage maturity, development, and aging...that is why other genres will continue to prosper
September 17, 2008 4:53 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@MissDallasTx214 said:
 SeanJohn81 said:
@MissDallasTx214
Did you see the headline about the Wayne and Nivea jumpoff????  This would be a real bad look for all parties involved.  I feel bad for these dumb asses who think its cool to expose there personal lives....  What's poppin with you though, what I gotta do to get on that list????  I'll make that trip to to TX if needed.............LOL!!!!!
September 17, 2008 10:50 AM  
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I forgot, Im sorry sweetheart, won't happen again!
Yes I was about to post that story next, lol. Why are we all thinking it's Nivea tho?!? Let's see what the other readers think......

"Lil Wayne may be getting a lot more shine in a few weeks. MediaFakeOut.com is hearing whispers that an explicit tape purportedly showing Lil Wayne is being shopped around by a group of men claiming to be his former friends.

The word on the street is that Weezy likes to use a camera phone during his "exploits" so he can show his boys the footage afterwards. And that somehow the footage fell into the wrong hands (or the right ones, depending on your perspective).

And there's more. According to a person who claims to have seen the, Wayne isn't the only celebrity in it. The insider told MediaFakeOut.com, "One of the women in the tape looks just like [an R&B singer that Weezy's constantly photographed with]. I can't swear its her, but it looks like her."



......well folks who do you think it is?!? The only singer I know of him being with is Nivea, but you know it could be Trina and they could be calling her a singer just to throw us off, however, since there's been rumors about Wayne and Dream talking to each other about her in their songs, I bet it's Nivea....your thoughts people??
Uh, why am I anxious to see the video tho?!? I want to know what Weezy has to attract such pretty ladies. : )
=======================================
Nivea? Lord that's not what I heard. But R&B? Never mind. I may be on some whole other shit. haha But, hmmm, when's the last time Weezy was photographed with Nivea? I'm seen him and the "Sean John" Girls photographed alot but in peoples camera phones and berrys. Oops! lmfao But Nivea, He really use to love that girl. But he messed up and she went her own way. Got married and had some kids. hmmmmmm. You know there is  a lot to be said for "1st Loves". But would he tape her? Come on. :smh:
September 17, 2008 4:53 PM
 

Ken_P said:

LBoogie81 said:
Metallica released their newest album on Friday, instead of the usual Tues. for releases, and they sold 490,000 copies. They almost went gold for the week, and the album wasn't even available for the whole sales week. Why can't hip-hop fans give that same kind of devotion to our artists that the rock fans give to theirs? Why are Nas, Game, and others moving bricks, when artists like Metallica, whose fan base declined after that whole Napster thing, can still move units?
___________________
hip hop has an obsession with youth...niggas lie about their age in the rap game because the major fan base is young...these youngsters look at nas as an old nigga...the nigga saluateyageneral say it best..no country for old men...

the younger you are in the rap game, the better your chances are to sell...regardless of your history or legendary status...

other genres of music encourage maturity, development, and aging...that is why other genres will continue to prosper
September 17, 2008 4:53 PM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

DonLevon said:

If he playing ball how he go tape the shit with a phone.  And if he from chicago he aint go tape the shit like some happy ass stan
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Exactly! So Im supposed to dribble to pill & record this nigga at the same time LOL...niggas be killin me with this youtube shit...understand this nigga R. Kelly is just another nigga round here...when that nigga got caught NOBODY from the CHI was suprised cuz he been doin it FOR YEARS!!....that nigga STILL fuckin with these lil girls out here....
September 17, 2008 4:55 PM
 

DonLevon said:

Just_Rude said:
i acutally kept buying jay cd's because for a min i did the DJ thing... he is great for a single or two but he's not a great artist like some people think he is ...

i know people gonna say i'm hating for this but he is no where near the best rapper alive....and he is no where near top 5 dead or alive------------------------------------------------------
If Pac & Big was alive the following artis would have had a very small impact on hip hop.




Jay-Z he did not blow up untell the death of Big NY had to have a voice

Master P and his no limit movement People need something to get over the Pac and Big absent. this gave birth to the south taking over hip hop.

Cash money: man I can go all day ill save this shit 4 my blog if i aint to fucked up DonLevon0025 myspace
September 17, 2008 4:55 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@BlackPeople 1 said:
ay ltbrown.

i'm mad cuz i feel like i got cheated out of a summer.

i figure i had everybody back home beat on some "gotchu suckas" type shit by movin out here and here it is september and it's back to school weather.

and this bullshit at the beach ain't broke 80 degrees all spring or summer.


but yo,
you know on a wide general scale, music and entertainment directly influences and sways our people maybe 5-7 times more than politics.

in fact it's like

entertainment
entertainment
entertainment
religion
religion
religion
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
oh, who runnin for city councilman again?


you know i ain't lyin.
and we talkin on a general scale.

so with that being said, it look cowardly when people don't attack the quality and content of the current entertainment product with the same vehemence that they say go vote for this one or that one.

and i wanna know why.

(you know I gotta ask the grown up questions)
================================
That means black parents have to stop letting the tv, babysit. lol You know that's true too.
September 17, 2008 4:55 PM
 

Kappagem said:

  BlackPeople 1 said:
dallas, you did not answer my question.

you started talking about something else that you might've wanted to get off your chest.

i'll try it a little more clearly:
why do you think people say things to you in reference to the south's current entertainment product such as
"you're country" or "your rappers suck" ?

why?



lemme ask some of the other people here.

anybody from the country.
that includes the midwest, st. louis to the deep south?

why do you think people are "hating on the south?"






mari, all of us in here know hip hop music has a stronger pull, sway and influence on black people than politics.

but people are pretending otherwise.

so that's why i wonder why none of these little pro-obama screamers don't talk about the trashy ass garbage audio entertainment product that's out.

why not speak out on that?

if they want "change" so bad, why not change that?

the drum affects people of color instantly.

naw. see? there i go again.
i forgot people want you to act like they are slow.

then that way responsibility can be reduced.

okay. let's just say it like this for everybody.

music has a stonger effect on you than politics.
why not act on changing that?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(ALERT - BOSSUP, don't read this...it's a long one)

Yo...BP....

I'm from the Midwest, and I can tell you why people in the SOUTH be feeling like people are always hating on the South...

It’s actually quite simple…

The South has been what’s “hot” during this timeframe…and I don’t mean Texas, because unfortunately, it seems like Texas had a minor burn for a minute and then “disappeared”, much like how the nation did the Hyphy Movement.  I think AHH did like 2 articles on the Hyphy movement, then they were done like that.  Same goes for stuff on tv…but I digress…

The South feel like people hate on them faithfully.  I can kinda understand it, only because you NEVER hear people give them props, even though they seem to be selling the best right now…think about it…

Lil Wayne – hated on FAITHFULLY on this site…
UGK – Never get/got the respect they deserve (Bun B is a beast)
Plies – He done sold how many records now?  
T.I. – King of the South, and he stay selling MAD records
Luda – He done disappeared, but for a while, he was one of the ONLY cats going Platty from the South.
Scarface – A legend in the game, ahead of his time.  Cats do sleep on him…just look at the record sales
Nelly – Pop tart music made this dude a BEAST in the game.  Even Jay said (only dudes moving units, Em, Pimp Juice, and US)…
Jeezy – Recession ain’t hurt his record sales.


Look…I could go on and on…but the thing is the SOUTH has been doing they thing (look at Souljah Boy too…ya dig?), but they don’t get the respect out of our culture.  I mean, even the dudes who are considered “hot” get clowned on.  Now, I’m guilty in some of this, because to this DAY I don’t get how you can like a Plies song!  I just don’t!!!  But apparently folks down South support him, and he’s sellin’ some units.  But in the cases of people like Lil Wayne, T.I., Luda, UGK, Face…hell, even Jeezy, I gotta give props.  They know they lane, and they just MOVE in it.  Nelly included (and I personally can’t stand his music).

But they know they lane.  When the EAST was ‘runnin’ ish, folks gave them love NATIONWIDE (you’ve heard this time and time again from the West Coast), but when that perceived “balance” of power switches, the South gets “sh*tted” on…  

Why ya’ll talk like that?  
Why ya’ll rap like that (I personally feel like Plies is just TALKING on a record tho!)
Why ya’ll bang stuff SCREWED up?
Why ya’ll always rappin’ about the Trap, or sh*t poppin’ in the club, or how much bling you got?

I mean…whew…it goes on and on…but mostly, it comes back to respect.

The South don’t feel like they get any respect…especially when it comes to lyrics or rhyming, and they take offense to it.

With all that said, if I think someone’s a WACK rapper, I just call it out.  I don’t let OTHER people influence my opinion…but I think as a whole many people DO.
September 17, 2008 4:57 PM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

  Young BRINK! said:
Yall Remember That Movie The Faculty???

Why does Palin look like one of those infected teachers?
September 17, 2008 3:21 PM  
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lmao, she does! I never thought of that...she looks kinda like the teacher that was looking for her head in tha parking lot, lol.
September 17, 2008 4:57 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

last Take on kellZ then I'm out: The so Called scandal broke in 2000.kellZ supposely had sex with a under age Female. The Courts Had 8 Yrs to build & prove there case. 8 Yrs!!! Now we sit
@ sept 2008 & Still Judgen this man. Matthew 7 1:5
I just can't & prob never will figure out Why Do yall people Say I hate a certain Artist,He/She aint shit Or fuck him/Her But everything they Do/Say yall rite there checken for them...so called not liken them SMH if he/she wasnt shit when you stop/never liked him/her...9 times out of 10 ur ass not going 2 change ur mind...Hence: What can mccain Do or say to make you  vote for him???? My point Get over it & move on people
September 17, 2008 4:58 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

last Take on kellZ then I'm out: The so Called scandal broke in 2000.kellZ supposely had sex with a under age Female. The Courts Had 8 Yrs to build & prove there case. 8 Yrs!!! Now we sit
@ sept 2008 & Still Judgen this man. Matthew 7 1:5
I just can't & prob never will figure out Why Do yall people Say I hate a certain Artist,He/She aint shit Or fuck him/Her But everything they Do/Say yall rite there checken for them...so called not liken them SMH if he/she wasnt shit when you stop/never liked him/her...9 times out of 10 ur ass not going 2 change ur mind...Hence: What can mccain Do or say to make you  vote for him???? My point Get over it & move on people
September 17, 2008 4:58 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

last Take on kellZ then I'm out: The so Called scandal broke in 2000.kellZ supposely had sex with a under age Female. The Courts Had 8 Yrs to build & prove there case. 8 Yrs!!! Now we sit
@ sept 2008 & Still Judgen this man. Matthew 7 1:5
I just can't & prob never will figure out Why Do yall people Say I hate a certain Artist,He/She aint shit Or fuck him/Her But everything they Do/Say yall rite there checken for them...so called not liken them SMH if he/she wasnt shit when you stop/never liked him/her...9 times out of 10 ur ass not going 2 change ur mind...Hence: What can mccain Do or say to make you  vote for him???? My point Get over it & move on people
September 17, 2008 4:58 PM
 

LBoogie81 said:

BP1,

Illmatic-Certified plat. in '01.
Long Live the Kane- certified gold
By All Means Necessary-gold
September 17, 2008 5:01 PM
 

Kappagem said:

 JRucker said:
Knowl said:
Pac has passion out the ass, but his lyric arrangement is mediocre at best.
------------

come on Knowl!!! say it aint so!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Pac's music was truly POETRY...

You could actually take a PAC verse, arrange it in it's best form, and it was sheer poetry.  Dude was talented.  Knowl is my Nic.....but I gotta disagree...

On the flipside, I do feel Biggie was a better STORYTELLER than Pac, hence, even his ability to actually tell a story on wax, like he did on the last track of disc 1.  Dude just had mad imagination.

Pac was FIRE...dude just spit from the heart, and I can respect that...he was real, because his imperfection made him human...just like us....
September 17, 2008 5:01 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@LBoogie81 said:
Metallica released their newest album on Friday, instead of the usual Tues. for releases, and they sold 490,000 copies. They almost went gold for the week, and the album wasn't even available for the whole sales week. Why can't hip-hop fans give that same kind of devotion to our artists that the rock fans give to theirs? Why are Nas, Game, and others moving bricks, when artists like Metallica, whose fan base declined after that whole Napster thing, can still move units?
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Why?  Read the next copy and paste
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Barack yOmama said:
@LL'S RECORDS SALES, UR SHITZ SELLIN LIKE GOAT MILK! ITZ BOUT TIME 2 HANG IT UP! EXIT 13, AIN'T NOBODY GONE SIGN U, NOT EVEN KOCH!
=====================================
Our culture is way to consumed with this sort of "Hollywood Paradox". We have legends in this culture. But the "point and click" generation wants to put them out to pasture. Like they have no worth. It's sad to see. I give you a great example;
How old is Barbara Striesand? This woman just raised 9 million last night for Obama. A $2500 per plate fundraiser. And she only did 4 songs.
We have no loyalty. I call it the slot machine vs Gumball effect.

We'd rather put alot of money into something that MIGHT pay off. Rather then put a little money into something which has paid 100% of the time and is a guarantee [tried and true]. It's crazier then this damn economy. Hell Madonna is older then LL. She still sell out tours. :smh:
No one has done shit to us but us! Sad reality.
September 17, 2008 5:04 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

yall a bunch of Smart Dumb niggaz ( Katt Williams voice) just being Sarcastic!!! But since you want to Hold his dick While he piss you Can hold the camera for Him.
September 17, 2008 5:05 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

not just music but all media is ran down.  how many companys is it like 5?  & fcc was ran by general powell son?  clearchannel & rupert murdoch & general electric.  its a tight game.

but dont we engage the entertainment industry tho we know its rigged?  it need be replaced but still we also deal in the here&now.

same with political industry.  it need be replaced but also we cant escape this moment/place/condition.  amiri say if you not in the system then how i can see you?

it will be that much harder to control music under mccain...

September 17, 2008 5:07 PM
 

JRucker said:

BlackPeople 1 said:

but yo,
you know on a wide general scale, music and entertainment directly influences and sways our people maybe 5-7 times more than politics.

in fact it's like

entertainment
entertainment
entertainment
religion
religion
religion
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
oh, who runnin for city councilman again?


you know i ain't lyin.
and we talkin on a general scale.

so with that being said, it look cowardly when people don't attack the quality and content of the current entertainment product with the same vehemence that they say go vote for this one or that one.
------------------------

How would we approach the task of 'attacking the quality and content of the current entertainment product' and where would we start? Not only where would we start, but what would be our objective? That attack would be huge and could affect those who are already trying to raise consciousness and/or are actually putting out quality content.

September 17, 2008 5:11 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@DC CA$HVILLE said:
@Hillary being VP

You know what, i'm going to co-sign with illseed.  But, there is some consequences to that move.  Instead of the spotlight being on Palin, it will be on Hillary.  Then, if Barack wins, the media will give all the credit to Hillary and not Barack or say something like "Barack wouldn't had won it without Hillary."  I wouldn't be cool with that, at all.  Wel, i hope this will be only be a rumor and not come a reality.

Peace and more hair grease,

==============================
And for that reason, I really don't want him to do that. The momenum has shifted. The fallout on Wallstreet brought shit home. Besides, Hillary and Bill would take over. :smh:
September 17, 2008 5:12 PM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

LBoogie81 said:
Metallica released their newest album on Friday, instead of the usual Tues. for releases, and they sold 490,000 copies. They almost went gold for the week, and the album wasn't even available for the whole sales week. Why can't hip-hop fans give that same kind of devotion to our artists that the rock fans give to theirs? Why are Nas, Game, and others moving bricks, when artists like Metallica, whose fan base declined after that whole Napster thing, can still move units?
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Bootleggin & fickleness is killin the game sweetie! Metallica has value....they have obviously proven to their fans that they are worth spending money on.

Hip Hop has so many come & go artists therefore no value is created to go purchase a whole album. I dont think it has to do with youth because in every other genre of music, the fans grown with the artists. Nas is considered a legend in this game & he bricked(saleswise) which means his "fans" did not support him.  

I've READ more niggas on AHH give his last album high praises then he had actual sales which means niggas bootlegged/downloaded the album. They're fickle because they're not true fans. A true fan will go to the store & buy your record not download or bootleg it.
September 17, 2008 5:15 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:


Hip Hop
Gets It's First Mayor!

by - Davey D
10/2/02 6:38:49 AM

Afrika Bambaataa and KRS-One have often been found of saying that Hip Hop needs to have Hip Hop doctors, lawyers and mayors... Well we do have doctors and we have lawyers. Now Hip Hop can point to its first Mayor. Well I should say, Deputy Mayor. Hip Hop artist/school teacher and one time candidate for Mayor, Ras Baraka-who is the son of poet Amiri Baraka was sworn in last Friday by the city of Newark, New Jersey to be one of four Deputy Mayors.. Here's a copy of the press release I received.

On Friday, September 27, 2002, Ras Baraka was officially sworn in as Deputy Mayor for the City of Newark (an appointed position). He is one of four deputy mayors and is in charge of Youth and Social Services. He retains his post as an Assistant Principal at Weequahic High School in Newark. Many of you supported Ras' campaign for City Council earlier this year. Although he lost by approximately 100 votes, it is clear that Ras, a native of this municipality, is an important leader in the city of Newark, a true voice for the hiphop generation and all the people of Newark, and a political force to be reckoned with in the coming years.
We congratulate Ras on his appointment. Who said Hip Hop wouldn't come this far. For more info on Ras check out http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/barakaprofile.htm



[Hip Hop & Political News Archives]
September 17, 2008 5:17 PM
 

B*braze said:

@BP1
when i was gatherin my thoughts for this response i came to a strange conclusion. it might look a lil bit scatter brained but just follow along with me...

you say,
"when people start talkin about some wack or poisonous shit is "hot" or "bangin" call them on that shit.

ask them how???
that shit is hot or bangin compared to what???"

i know you seen me bomb on shit i think is weak in here. some people might get offended if you shit on they favorite rapper. and then its some people who say "he cool to me, and if you dont like him thats your opinion." i fall in that 2nd category.

to me its only 3 rappers thats above any criticism.

rakim - lyrical beast

biggie - hands down the best storyteller

tupac - he said in one song...
"i remember marvin gaye used to sing to me. had me feelin like black was the thing to be."
you could say he inspire them same feelings in our generation.


but in the end, its still only my opinion.

and when i challenge people on how lil wayne is the GOAT or jay z is the GOD MC, they can always fall back on that "opinion" shit.

so when you ask which got the bigger impact hiphop or politics... to me its the same.

it started wit some well meaning intentions and got hi-jacked by the people with the longest money, fed to the masses in ways they see fit, complete with figureheads and martyrs. and anybody not rollin with the program receives little or no play.

politics boil down to popular opinion, which is shaped by the people in control anyway.

hiphop = hood politics.

September 17, 2008 5:17 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

Lauryn Hill and Ras Baraka - Hot Beverage In Winter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1zEd9bjHpY
September 17, 2008 5:19 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@JRucker said:
BlackPeople 1 said:

but yo,
you know on a wide general scale, music and entertainment directly influences and sways our people maybe 5-7 times more than politics.

in fact it's like

entertainment
entertainment
entertainment
religion
religion
religion
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
oh, who runnin for city councilman again?


you know i ain't lyin.
and we talkin on a general scale.

so with that being said, it look cowardly when people don't attack the quality and content of the current entertainment product with the same vehemence that they say go vote for this one or that one.
------------------------

How would we approach the task of 'attacking the quality and content of the current entertainment product' and where would we start? Not only where would we start, but what would be our objective? That attack would be huge and could affect those who are already trying to raise consciousness and/or are actually putting out quality content.
======================================
@ BP1 the quality and content for you is a lash at southern artist. But sweetheart, no artist selling music has any content. If you're buying cd's for education, then you've already missed the boat. Entertainment is up to the consumer.

@ Rucker, We couldn't because that's going to lead to this regional cancerous argument with "Oh we know what the real is" patients like Black People 1 and no solution will be found. BECAUSE ALL PEOPLE DON'T THINK ALIKE. It's terribly hard to get that across to folks north of the maison dixon line. lol
September 17, 2008 5:19 PM
 

Kappagem said:

 Savy_Da_Boss said:
LBoogie81 said:
Why is hip-hop the only music genre where artists can't drop an album on their planned date?
----------------------------------------
Because hip hop is the only genre where fans are not loyal to an artist. They love you one minute hate you the next which means you have to create "hype" or excitement about a record in order for people to go buy it.  

Therefore you have to rev up "the machine" to get people to buy the product. Meaning everything has to be lined up, the single has to drop @ the right time, have to make sure the DJ's & raido station program directors are paid to spin the record NON STOP, then comes the publicity stunts (rapper goes 2 jail or sex tape), then they have 2 bail the rapper out, go to 106 & park, then they have to get a cover of a magazine, radio promo, etc etc etc

All that takes a lot of work & if everything is not set up right or the label doesnt feel the buzz is big about the album, theyll push the album back & start the process all over again until they get it right...

All that to only sell 300k records LOL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Sad, but true...

Like I said a week or so ago...

In Hip-Hop, the fan is fickle, and they don't tend to last.  Not to mention, you have to get that suburban money to even make it.  That, and the shows.  If you put on a good SHOW, you can make it, because the people who want to see you will come out to support.  Why you think these bands make so much money (Rolling Stones, Metallica and ish...they have LOYAL fans).

There are only so many folks who could pull that kinda movement out of the people...

Prince is one of 'em too...

But it's rare in HIp-Hop you get that...
September 17, 2008 5:25 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

DJ Disciple Pres. Ras Baraka @ THE NEXT LEVEL PARTY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cErlJnpg0XY
September 17, 2008 5:27 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@BlackPeople 1 said:
ay ltbrown.

i'm mad cuz i feel like i got cheated out of a summer.

i figure i had everybody back home beat on some "gotchu suckas" type shit by movin out here and here it is september and it's back to school weather.

and this bullshit at the beach ain't broke 80 degrees all spring or summer.


but yo,
you know on a wide general scale, music and entertainment directly influences and sways our people maybe 5-7 times more than politics.

in fact it's like

entertainment
entertainment
entertainment
religion
religion
religion
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
somethin
oh, who runnin for city councilman again?


you know i ain't lyin.
and we talkin on a general scale.

so with that being said, it look cowardly when people don't attack the quality and content of the current entertainment product with the same vehemence that they say go vote for this one or that one.

and i wanna know why.

(you know I gotta ask the grown up questions)
=====================================
What's cowardly is when you try to place it on one region. Like it just happened. BP1 that's not getting passed me cuz. Not even. HipHop has been "none educating."
Only a few were in the beginning.And no region monopolized the brain trust.
Just like now! Same averages. I agree with Dallas. That's hate but more like crab in the barrel. Almost jealousy.
Like, you JUST noticed lack of content when southern artist started topping the charts? lmao
September 17, 2008 5:27 PM
 

LBoogie81 said:

I hear what everyone's saying, and ya'll make good points. It's just sad that these days, we don't celebrate our own like we used to. I always noticed that artists in other genres can play arenas and stadiums and sell them shits out, makin' millions in the process, but you don't see rappers book those kinds of  large venues or demand that size of an audience (other than Jay, and maybe Kanye or 50). Then again, half these cats in the game show up an hour late for their shows, or not at all, so I wouldn't book 'em anyway.

Sidebar- I saw someone call me "sweetie", but I'm not a chick, the avi is my girl who was killed in Iraq 3 years ago.
September 17, 2008 5:27 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

@Kappagem

I gotta hop in on this.

Pac was the best to ever to do it.  That is not an opinion, that is a FACT.  What more proof do these mothafuckaz need?  He wrecked B.I.G. hands down!  He wrecked NaS hands down!  He killed everybody he went at hands down!  NO question!

People just try their HARDEST to find SOMETHING wrong with Pac!  Give it up!  He's the greatest to ever do it point blank.  The ONLY thing you can find wrong with Pac is that he was HUMAN just like me and you.  Well I got news for you mothafuckaz that spend all day tryna find somethin' wrong with Pac, there's never gonna be a such thing as a "perfect rapper" 'cause nobody's perfect so shut that negative shit up.

@knowl

NO rapper is gonna rhyme the exact way you want them to rhyme, so get off his rhyme scheme, it was ILL.  Lyric arrangement?  Good Lord, you need to go play in the sprinkler or some shit homie, that's just nit-pickin'.  If you want better lyric arrangement then write your own song and start your own legacy the way YOU think it should be done.  It's WHAT he said that matters more than HOW he said it, because as you can see, these mothafuckaz in the rap game currently may SOUND good to some people but when you put a microscope to their lyrics they ain't talkin' about SHIT no matter how good they arranged the lyrics.

EVERYTIME I log on this fuckin' site, no matter what the topic is mothafuckaz ALWAYS discussin' PAC this PAC that, PAC PAC PAC PAC PAC PAC PAC!!  What's that tellin' u?  That after aaallll these years, he's STILL relevant, even DEAD.  Why?  'cause he's the best to ever do it.  his music STILL sellin'!!!  His music STILL gets the club jumpin'!  Niggaz STILL bang his shit at home and in the ride!  It's PROOF that he's the best PERIOD.

Anybody that's gonna come at me talkin' about some "oh you're on pac's nuts, you're a pac groupie, you're this you're that" y'all can miss me with that ignorant trash talkin' 'cause I'm keepin' it 100 based off FACTS and I don't give a fuck what it looks like.  Anybody that talks negative about Pac needs to get the fuck off this site.  I HAD to speak on this shit because I'm sick of it!  Knock it off.  CHURCH's.
September 17, 2008 5:28 PM
 

Kappagem said:

  Ken_P said:
LBoogie81 said:
Metallica released their newest album on Friday, instead of the usual Tues. for releases, and they sold 490,000 copies. They almost went gold for the week, and the album wasn't even available for the whole sales week. Why can't hip-hop fans give that same kind of devotion to our artists that the rock fans give to theirs? Why are Nas, Game, and others moving bricks, when artists like Metallica, whose fan base declined after that whole Napster thing, can still move units?
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hip hop has an obsession with youth...niggas lie about their age in the rap game because the major fan base is young...these youngsters look at nas as an old nigga...the nigga saluateyageneral say it best..no country for old men...

the younger you are in the rap game, the better your chances are to sell...regardless of your history or legendary status...

other genres of music encourage maturity, development, and aging...that is why other genres will continue to prosper

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Saluate also says he likes for women to suck they fingerz and play in his booty hole.  I wouldn't quote him:)  LOL...

But to what you were saying...

Yeah, they have a fan base that matures.  Niccahs are looking for what is hot NOW.  Think on this...

How many people would go see a KRS 1, Kool Moe Dee, LL Cool J, and Big Daddy Kane show?

Hold up...

For REGULAR TIX PRICE?  Meaning, like $25-$50 or something like that?

I bet not too many...but if you asked the same people who buy Metallica ish, they would be MORE than happy to go...even if all they got were THE OLD JOINTS.

Hip-Hop fans are fickle...or I should say RAP fans are fickle.  True Hip-Hop heads would be there...

I'm still laughing at how you quoted Saluate...lmao
September 17, 2008 5:31 PM
 

B*braze said:

BlackSean said:

And be honest.... show of hands who actually sing "Hail Mary" in their own tone & not their best 'Pac voice?  Stretching your words out, like "Follow meeeeee"  Lol
 
*******************

hahahahaha. you know niggas got that pac voice on when they rap his shit
September 17, 2008 5:31 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

THE BLACK CULTURAL REVOLUTION AND THE ORIGINS OF HIP-HOP
(A Speech given at Wesleyan University, Ct, January, 1999)

" Larry Neal and Askia Toure' were my models in the mid-'60s. We wanted the oral tradition in our work, we wanted the sound, the pumping rhythm of black music...  We wanted an art that was as black as our music. A blues poetry...; a jazz poetry; a funky verse full of exploding anti-racist weapons. A bebop and new music poetry, that would scream and taunt and rhythm-attack the enemy into submission. An art that would educate and unify black people in our attack on an anti-black, rabid, racist America. We wanted a mass art, an art that could "Monkey" out the libraries and "Boogaloo" down the street in tune with popular revolution. A poetry the people could sing as they beat Faubus and Wallace and Bull Conner to death!"

         --- Amiri Baraka on Black Arts Poetry and Cultural Revolution
September 17, 2008 5:35 PM
 

adopefemalemc said:

Late like hell but still in the building...temporarily..

*I wanna see that Byron Hurt documentary

*I'd like to think that Obama don't hafta play the game (Hillary new VP) but aint that what politics is anyway..they say he 2 points in the lead today...

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/obama-leads-mccain-in-new-poll/141796?icid=100214839x1209857391x1200544350

I just think it's 2 close for comfort right now & all his supporters, his camp, etc, wanna make sure it aint even CLOSE.


*Illseed, EVERYBODY..why is it that if anybody drops a book ever since Karrine Steffans, it's the Superhead bandwagon? Know some ppl whose books dropped before her?: DMX, Bernie Mac, Fantasia Barrino, 50 Cent, etc. Karrine may have set a new standard for "Tell-All", but damn...u kno, books may be the last hope right now..u can't bootleg a book, lol. Naw, but fa real, let ppl tell they story if they got one. Er'body aint on Superhead's hype w/ it. That's some sexist ish if u ask me, er'time a woman write a book, she must be doin the Superhead.

*TommyK, stay up!!

*WillyKillEm, get better!

*Tupacfan, nice to see ya frequenting the rumors, u must be feelin better :)

*BFG, I aint gotta clue what the big deal bout Twitter is, but management told me to get one (shrug)

*BlackSean, I love your breakdown of Pac's music/angle. I really do.
September 17, 2008 5:35 PM
 

ufeelme209 said:

please yeezy quit the audiotune , all ur albums are dope so dont mess up the catalouge.

Em a new album is really needed, hell 50 em and dre should drop a collabo album and call the shit three kings......

Obama clinton i cud ride for that .......

Stocks are goin down like lil kim @ a bachelor party, banks is closing, the white house tryin to start one more war b4 they get evicted scary times yall. @ least the new foreign exchange album will b out soon ahhhhhhhhhh.

peace


September 17, 2008 5:36 PM
 

drewhood said:

YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK THIS ELECTION HAS TAKEN A BIG TURN IN OBAMAS FAVOR
JOHN MCCAIN: I THINK THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THIS ECONOMY ARE STRONG
THIS MIGHT BE WHAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE BACK THE MOMENTUM. I HAVE NOTICED THAT BIDEN HAS BEEN MIA TOO AND WONDERED ABOUT IT A LITTLE. EITHER WAY OBAMAS NAME IS AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET, SO WHAT EVER HE HAS TO DO TO WIN IS COOL WITH ME.
ALSO, AS YALL KNOW LAST DAY TO REGISTER IS OCT. 6TH. SO DO IT.
PEACE
September 17, 2008 5:37 PM
 

Cmacjb said:

Waz Good C_A_K Illseed, Lady D and the AHH Fam!!!!

Im glad to hear that Will anit no Scientology cult member. If its Hillary or Biden it don't matter as long as Obama is the main man in Nov. Like I keep saying I hope Ye don't do the whole album in autotune. Em better come back with a nice ass album he been in hiding for far to long. Damn Alicia Keys needs to stop messing with Swizz when nigga married, too many niggas out here for her to mess with a married man.

Vote Obama 08!!!!!!!
September 17, 2008 5:39 PM
 

DonLevon said:

D-block 4life said:
yall a bunch of Smart Dumb niggaz ( Katt Williams voice) just being Sarcastic!!! But since you want to Hold his dick While he piss you Can hold the camera for Him.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------LOL!!!!!! i agree whit some of the shit ya be saying bout you argument with folks was fucking retarted!!!!!! Aint nobody from this bitch go tape that nigga we do not give a fuck about this nigga if it aint music
September 17, 2008 5:40 PM
 

adopefemalemc said:

@ BlackSean, Knowl, Kappagem, JRuck, TaylorM/B, BFG, Sears, LTBrown, Choc1, Bhudda Flii the whole board and anyone w/ a sense of humor...

THIS VID CRACKS ME UP...RACIAL HUMOR..'Specially the soundtrack they had the nerve to throw up..lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNbUKIkRieM&feature=related


**LTBrown, gotta coupla them voter Qs for u later, mama, hope u on the boards.  

Aight, I'm finna go make me a samich & run some errands, see ya'll later...

September 17, 2008 5:40 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

AUDIO SPEECH-  need for a cultural revolution

Amiri Baraka lecture, Razor, June, 2004. - Baraka, Amiri

An Amiri Baraka lecture, discussing the ***need for a cultural revolution*** now in the United States, and discussing a new forum for sharing creative work about, and building political power for, significant cultural and political change.

http://www.archive.org/details/Amiri_Baraka_lecture_Razor_June_2004_04P007

(the volume come up at 2:25)
September 17, 2008 5:42 PM
 

DonLevon said:

LBoogie81 said:Sidebar- I saw someone call me "sweetie", but I'm not a chick, the avi is my girl who was killed in Iraq 3 years ago.---------------------------------------------------------
 Damn sorry to hear that

R.I.P. pretty white girl
September 17, 2008 5:43 PM
 

cgotti777 said:

LL WHO YOU GONNA BLAME NOW? 40K SOLD AND NUMBER 9 ON THE CHARTS? YOU STILL MAD AT JAY-Z? WHAT HAPPENED THIS TIME? I'LL TELL YOU THE ANSWER. WEAK SINGLES! I FUCK WIT YOU L BUT YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BLAMED HOV. NOW YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES.

YALL NIGGAZ KEEP RUNNIN TO 50 THINKIN HE GONNA HELP (EVEN THO LL ONLY USED TO TRACKS) AND YOU SELL LESS THAN EVER. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO FREEWAY TOO.
September 17, 2008 5:43 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@B*braze said:
@BP1
when i was gatherin my thoughts for this response i came to a strange conclusion. it might look a lil bit scatter brained but just follow along with me...

you say,
"when people start talkin about some wack or poisonous shit is "hot" or "bangin" call them on that shit.

ask them how???
that shit is hot or bangin compared to what???"

i know you seen me bomb on shit i think is weak in here. some people might get offended if you shit on they favorite rapper. and then its some people who say "he cool to me, and if you dont like him thats your opinion." i fall in that 2nd category.

to me its only 3 rappers thats above any criticism.

rakim - lyrical beast

biggie - hands down the best storyteller

tupac - he said in one song...
"i remember marvin gaye used to sing to me. had me feelin like black was the thing to be."
you could say he inspire them same feelings in our generation.


but in the end, its still only my opinion.

and when i challenge people on how lil wayne is the GOAT or jay z is the GOD MC, they can always fall back on that "opinion" shit.

so when you ask which got the bigger impact hiphop or politics... to me its the same.

it started wit some well meaning intentions and got hi-jacked by the people with the longest money, fed to the masses in ways they see fit, complete with figureheads and martyrs. and anybody not rollin with the program receives little or no play.

politics boil down to popular opinion, which is shaped by the people in control anyway.

hiphop = hood politics.
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Exactly right. It's YOUR opinion. I noticed New Yorkers always want to tell you what YOUR OPINION is mainly on Hip Hop.
No way dude. Gtfoh. lmao
You want to slang some salt at me because I tell people to vote. But I don't endorse nor rank or tear off, Hip Hop artist? What is that about?
First and foremost, It matters more to me if we vote, versus rather we buy music cd's. Because a music artist firstly has to entertain. ENTERTAIN THE INDIVIDUAL ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BUY THEIR PRODUCT.
I give less then a damn about who's music sells or don't sell. Because at the end of the day, that affects my life, minimal.

But who is Commander and Chief of the USA, matters big time. Simply because we've got an admin and a party now who  are selling our country right out from under us. Had the federal reserve not kicked in 84% for AIG. China was calling it's wager.

Now most of you may not do Wall Street but you know what a bookie is.
I'm more concerned that we get a prez for the middle class. Tax me out the ass if you have too. I can pay it. Because if the middle can keep their money all year, instead of waiting for a tax refund, once a year. Then they spend all year and the economy flourishes. Had China called that wager. American's would be fluent chinese speaking by 2050. So helping my clients and constituents feel comfortable that their retirements are going to be there [and some artist too], weighs heavier on my mind when I log in. More so then what region is feeling whom. People have worked 45 years for that 401K. That's real education for me.

So excuse me if I don't put alot of time into what rap songs you cosign. But BP1, I've got alot of more pressing things on my mind. Plus, I'm not trying to get use to the communist, walk in lock step, way of life. To each his or her own. I like all types of music. But I don't go to best buy for education. Nor do I go to the library to buy my cd's. Just cop whom you like.
That sounds so much simplier to me. lol
September 17, 2008 5:45 PM
 

DonLevon said:

 adopefemalemc said:books may be the last hope right now..u can't bootleg a book,
____________________________________________________-
 U can lime wire books
September 17, 2008 5:46 PM
 

SEATOWNZ FINEZT said:

What it Do AHH fam its the newest member get familiar aiiite shout outs to Tommy K ~1~
September 17, 2008 5:48 PM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

LBoogie81 said:
I hear what everyone's saying, and ya'll make good points. It's just sad that these days, we don't celebrate our own like we used to. I always noticed that artists in other genres can play arenas and stadiums and sell them shits out, makin' millions in the process, but you don't see rappers book those kinds of  large venues or demand that size of an audience (other than Jay, and maybe Kanye or 50). Then again, half these cats in the game show up an hour late for their shows, or not at all, so I wouldn't book 'em anyway.

Sidebar- I saw someone call me "sweetie", but I'm not a chick, the avi is my girl who was killed in Iraq 3 years ago.
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Me personally, the last CD I bought was American Gangster & the next CD I will probably buy is BP3 even if I grab it from the bootleg man in the barbershop Ill still go to the store & cop that Tuesday it drops

Its more than music at some point. A you have to really connect with someone to make them go buy your CD whether its what you stand for or represent. To me Jay-Z represents the hustler's mentality. So every hustler will connect with Jay-Z just like every weed smoker will connect with Snoop Dogg....a lot of artists dont connect nowadays because they dont represent anything. A lot of their stories are all made up & based on nothing which comes back to bite you down the line!
September 17, 2008 5:48 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

@ Kappagem: I had to put my Makaveli CD on After that comment;-) The only point you left out was His work ethic for his music.Pac Have songs for yrs to come.  Again I also loved BIG, But I just Never put him on a high chair after 2 Cds, I mean its not big fault, but We never had that chance to see what cd of his wouldve been a flop. But When people say Hov wouldve never been in the spot he is now, I just dont see y big being Alive would Stop him from Blowing up. See Everybody is a critic So there are no fans to buy these CDs, but I still kop't that LL
September 17, 2008 5:48 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Hip-Hop or politics?

I'ma say POLITICS are more important, but I'ma say Hip-Hop is all we will talk about.

I say politics are more important, only because ultimately, them shitz use policy to control what we can and can't listen to, say, eat, drink, smoke, taste, etc, etc, etc...

Politics are what is gonna have us in some real economic crisis in the near future...but past all that...I say that to say this...

IT DON'T F*CKIN' MATTER!

it's all controlled by "those who's names we don't say" that move in the shadows.  THEY control all this ish anyways...what's played on the radio, what's sold, how much it's sold for, etc, etc, etc...

The world the way we see it is no longer for US to decide, unfortunately...not until we get our sh*t together...

Politics are more important, but niccahs feel like they can't control politics, so we move on to hip-hop, which we feel is OURS...but that ain't even OURS anymore.  They took that too...

it's scatter-brained speaking on there, as B Braze said about his own post...

But take it for what it's worth...

Hip-Hop might be the Hood POlitics, but ultimately, what do WE control?  We damn sure don't control what goes platty anymore:)  Or we choose not too at least...

No way Nas only moves them units..niccahs illegally downloading sh*t.

Wayne and them sell mad units because them suburban kids will BUY it vs. bootleg.  

We kill our own, then complain about the consequences...chew on that for a min...

I'm headed out for a drank...
September 17, 2008 5:50 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@D-block 4life said:
yall a bunch of Smart Dumb niggaz ( Katt Williams voice) just being Sarcastic!!! But since you want to Hold his dick While he piss you Can hold the camera for Him.
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lmfao haha lol I just love your comments man. I stopped buyng Perverto Kelly when I heard he married Aaliyah. My mama wasn't having it. After that, I would turn off the radio when his songs came on. I can't pick what others buy, etc. I just don't buy him. It's nothing to guess for me. He married a 15 year old @ 27.  lmao@ Katt Williams. I was just thinking that before I saw your post. haha
September 17, 2008 5:52 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@  adopefemalemc said:
@ BlackSean, Knowl, Kappagem, JRuck, TaylorM/B, BFG, Sears, LTBrown, Choc1, Bhudda Flii the whole board and anyone w/ a sense of humor...

THIS VID CRACKS ME UP...RACIAL HUMOR..'Specially the soundtrack they had the nerve to throw up..lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNbUKIkRieM&feature=related


**LTBrown, gotta coupla them voter Qs for u later, mama, hope u on the boards.  

Aight, I'm finna go make me a samich & run some errands, see ya'll later...
================================
Your video. Oh my. Damn. lol. That is suppose to be a tool to teach racial diversity. But did you read the comments to it. lol Idiots. One fool said "somebody should've brought him some kool-aid. haha

Coupla Q's? Okay. I'm hanging around for a couple more. I'm editing in another window. And you know I got MSNBC in the background.
September 17, 2008 6:03 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@D-block 4life said:
@ Kappagem: I had to put my Makaveli CD on After that comment;-) The only point you left out was His work ethic for his music.Pac Have songs for yrs to come.  Again I also loved BIG, But I just Never put him on a high chair after 2 Cds, I mean its not big fault, but We never had that chance to see what cd of his wouldve been a flop. But When people say Hov wouldve never been in the spot he is now, I just dont see y big being Alive would Stop him from Blowing up. See Everybody is a critic So there are no fans to buy these CDs, but I still kop't that LL
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Cosign again.
September 17, 2008 6:07 PM
 

D-block 4life said:

@ Lt Brown: What up brown sugar,respect ur take on Kellz.me myself die Hard fan, I dont take it as far as a cd & Concerts for these artist.that's why I still Bang Rick Ross LOL

LOL @ you calling him perverto Kelly.
September 17, 2008 6:11 PM
 

Just_Rude said:

MissDallasTx214 said:
Just_Rude said:
@MissDallasTx214 said
lmao @ agree 50% uh okay, I like Jay better than Nas so that's why I feel the Blueprint was a better album..one of my fav cd's of all time : )
What do you mean you're agreeing with a Dallas fan? Im no fan, I am Dallas, lol!!!!!!
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i can understand that choice of jay over nas... everyone is entitled to like what they want....

and you may be dallas .. but your football team still suck
September 17, 2008 1:08 PM
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...that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion, but they're not called "America's fav team" for nothin!!! Also, the tickets are sold out for the rest of tha season so Im not the only one who loves them. It's okay tho, Im from tha south so Im used to critism and negativity yanno?!? For some reason people are always disliking Texans and our teams, we dont care tho, just wish people would stop movin here : )
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sweetie..... i don't hate the south .. in fact i love the south ... if you caught on to me and tommy k talking you would know i'm in the south alot ... i went to school in columbia SC and have a house out in ATL.... i'm not against the south at all in fact the south is one of the most beautiful place in the united states..... it's just the cowboys i don't like and i was just messing with you cause you have the star up there... it's all love ma... I'm just a Giants fan.. but i love the south ..
September 17, 2008 6:20 PM
 

Cycl-1777 said:

The Eminem & Masta Ace Interview was classic


http://thehiphopchronicles.blogspot.com
September 17, 2008 6:21 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@D-block 4life said:
@ Lt Brown: What up brown sugar,respect ur take on Kellz.me myself die Hard fan, I dont take it as far as a cd & Concerts for these artist.that's why I still Bang Rick Ross LOL

LOL @ you calling him perverto Kelly.
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Lol Thanks. I respect your choices brother. Fasho. I read your post. So I know you give a damn. We just differ on R. Still all good. lol
September 17, 2008 6:23 PM
 

adopefemalemc said:

@ LTBrown...

okay, home for the present..I decided to take the advice of Kappagem and vote absentee..that way is something happens, I can still vote at the polls Nov 4th.

I just moved & have to re-register to a new address..I woulda left it at the old one but I've done a chg of address & would HATE to show up at the polls & be turned away. My Q was, if I re-register under a new address, how long will that take? So, I decided to vote absentee. And fall back on the polls if there's any discrepancy by Nov. 4th..hopefully I will kno ahead of time...what u think, Ms. LTBrown?
September 17, 2008 6:26 PM
 

adopefemalemc said:

This was emailed to me:

This is Your Nation on White Privilege
By Tim Wise
9/13/08

For those who still can't grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.


White privilege is when you can call yourself a "*&%^$#@Ein' redneck," like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll "kick their *&%^$#@Ein' ass," and talk about how you like to "shoot sh*t" for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.


White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.


White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're "untested."


White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because "if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it's good enough for me," and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s--while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.


White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you. White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto is "Alaska first," and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's being disrespectful.


White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college and the fact that she lives close to Russia--you're somehow being mean, or even sexist.


White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because suddenly your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a "second look." White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.


White privilege is when you can take nearly twenty-four hours to get to a hospital after beginning to leak amniotic fluid, and still be viewed as a great mom whose commitment to her children is unquestionable, and whose "next door neighbor" qualities make her ready to be VP, while if you're a black candidate for president and you let your children be interviewed for a few seconds on TV, you're irresponsibly exploiting them.


White privilege is being able to give a 36 minute speech in which you talk about lipstick and make fun of your opponent, while laying out no substantive policy positions on any issue at all, and still manage to be considered a legitimate candidate, while a black person who gives an hour speech the week before, in which he lays out specific policy proposals on several issues, is still criticized for being too vague about what he would do if elected.


White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America.


White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a "trick question," while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O'Reilly means you're dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.


White privilege is being able to go to a prestigious prep school, then to Yale and then Harvard Business school, and yet, still be seen as just an average guy (George W. Bush) while being black, going to a prestigious prep school, then Occidental College, then Columbia, and then to Harvard Law, makes you "uppity," and a snob who probably looks down on regular folks.


White privilege is being able to graduate near the bottom of your college class (McCain), or graduate with a C average from Yale (W.) and that's OK, and you're cut out to be president, but if you're black and you graduate near the top of your class from Harvard Law, you can't be trusted to make good decisions in office.


White privilege is being able to dump your first wife after she's disfigured in a car crash so you can take up with a multi-millionaire beauty queen (who you go on to call the c-word in public) and still be thought of as a man of strong family values, while if you're black and married for nearly twenty years to the same woman, your family is viewed as un-American and your gestures of affection for each other are called "terrorist fist bumps."


White privilege is being able to sing a song about bombing Iran and still be viewed as a sober and rational statesman, with the maturity to be president, while being black and suggesting that the U.S. should speak with other nations, even when we have disagreements with them, makes you "dangerously naive and immature."


White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism and an absent father is apparently among the "lesser adversities" faced by other politicians, as Sarah Palin explained in her convention speech.


And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters aren't sure about that whole "change" thing. Ya know, it's just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain. White privilege is, in short, the problem.


"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have."
- Margaret Mead
September 17, 2008 6:34 PM
 

B*braze said:

ya'll see how they comin down so hard on josh howard for that silly ass national anthem shit.
September 17, 2008 6:34 PM
 

SEATOWNZ FINEZT said:

What it Do AHH fam its the newest member get familiar aiiite shout outs to Tommy K ~1~
September 17, 2008 6:35 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

@the board members

WHY IN THE BIBLE WE ARE TO BELIEVE THAT WOMEN A APPLES ARE THE REASON THAT WE LIVE IN SIN,

AND THATS THE REAL REASON WHY WE ALL HAVE TO DIE

SO IS THAT THE REASON WHY WE CALL WOMEN BITCHIES AND HOES

AND ARE HEALTH IS FUCKED UP

CAUSE WE LISTEN TO A WOMAN?

HELP ME
UNDERSTAND THIS PLEASE!!
September 17, 2008 6:39 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

With all this bullshit going on with the economy, Wall street tumbling, etc. Where the hell is George Bush? Ha? He barely came on the tube about Hurrican Ike. And now that he sees the rotton fruit from his swap meet.He's scarce. If that don't tell you this was all in the scheme of things. I don' know what will.

@Kappa

You summed it up beautifully. Politics. I would rather talk politics, anyday.

But try pushing that and see how hard they push back. My vehicle, gear or physique gets more attention then me trying to help people understand how to really help themselves. Or to really get involved.  Once they've made a million dollars. You're not going to change their minds. Not if they're souls were on sale already. and got bought.
Why do we as a people always act like it's someone elses fault? And someelses job. But our call. :smh: lol


I like this shot by Obama today. That Staff meeting line is killing. lmao
September 17, 2008 6:40 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

lboogie
see?

6 years for illmatic to go platinum.
how many years did it take for those other two just to go gold?

record sales matter not to quality music.

only to popular music.
or pop music.


ahhhhh, lt, braze, and kappa.

see, well hol' up.
i'm havin a faulty connection.
so lemme put this up so that you know i'm in the place to be...
September 17, 2008 6:40 PM
 

Tupacfan said:

@kulliminati 187,

I co-sign ur statement in regards of PAC, I hear this all the time on here so I dont bother to keep readdressing folks that PAC is goat.. because that's just simplicity real cant get any dealer than that plain period.. Glad we can see eye to eye on this topic.

@ltbrown,

Thanx for the shouts. I' could be better but I'm still hanging in there..

@dopefemalemc,
well today is the first day I got my laptop delivered so yea i was happy bout cuz I'm getting hella bored here. I'm feeling better but I could be way better ya feel me? I got this bad cough that won't go away like freaking asthma coughs and they hurt (ouch my abdomen is sore) I'll get at you on the email soon..


@everyone

I like how ya'll talking that hip hop with mixture of politics.. He'll its all the same alike. Politicking in other terms.
September 17, 2008 6:41 PM
 

adopefemalemc said:

@ LTBrown..

lol @ my ghetto typos in my earlier comment to u:

"I've done had a change of address..."


that was pure accident, lmao!!!
that sounded like some str8 EBONICS!!! :)
September 17, 2008 6:44 PM
 

AZTEC WARRIOR said:

WHAT UP YA'LL?!

WHATS GOIN ON IN HERE??

YO SEARS WHO DAT BREEZY IN TO AVI??
September 17, 2008 6:44 PM
 

Frizzodetroit said:

I was ridin' listenin' to that Shade 45 shit today and it was boring as fuck. I kept it movin' to Soultown and Backspin. That Mellow Man Ace interview was dope though. B-Real used to dance, funny shit.
September 17, 2008 6:48 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@adopefemalemc said:
@ LTBrown...

okay, home for the present..I decided to take the advice of Kappagem and vote absentee..that way is something happens, I can still vote at the polls Nov 4th.

I just moved & have to re-register to a new address..I woulda left it at the old one but I've done a chg of address & would HATE to show up at the polls & be turned away. My Q was, if I re-register under a new address, how long will that take? So, I decided to vote absentee. And fall back on the polls if there's any discrepancy by Nov. 4th..hopefully I will kno ahead of time...what u think, Ms. LTBrown?
==================================
I would Register at your new address. Do it before October 3rd. Like tomorrow. lol Contact  a Democratic council member and find out who is over your election commission too. But if you register at your courthouse, let them know all of your concerns.

The change of address usually wouldn't factor. But in light of what some local politicians [in the opposition] are trying [like outside of Detroit], you would be safer to fill it out and take it in. If you can't. Mail it but do it by this Friday. Get your Registrar's number and bug the hell out of them until they tell you they have recieved it. Have a concrete answer before October 3rd, either way you go.
Usually a prominent black business person or local politician can be a great ally. Because they'll make sure all i's are dotted and t's crossed. lol
That was a great question. Get it girl. haha
September 17, 2008 6:48 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@BlackPeople 1 said:
lboogie
see?

6 years for illmatic to go platinum.
how many years did it take for those other two just to go gold?

record sales matter not to quality music.

only to popular music.
or pop music.


ahhhhh, lt, braze, and kappa.

see, well hol' up.
i'm havin a faulty connection.
so lemme put this up so that you know i'm in the place to be...
===================================
I know you'd better be. After that shot you took at me. Why in God's name did you go there?

@adopefemalemc said:
@ LTBrown..

lol @ my ghetto typos in my earlier comment to u:

"I've done had a change of address..."


that was pure accident, lmao!!!
that sounded like some str8 EBONICS!!! :)