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Saigon Says Wu-Tang Clan Was The Last Conscious Rap Group Because Of Dead Prez Conspiracy


(AllHipHop News) Wu-Tang Clan was nothing to f*ck with, but always imparted wisdom and knowledge inside the gruesome rap tales. According to Saigon, after Wu-Tang Clan, there was no other popular conscious rap group.

In an interview with VladTV, the Love & Hip Hop actor says that the label behind both Wu-Tang Clan and Dead Prez (Loud/Columbia) did not provide the same promotional help for the conscious rap of Dead Prez. According to Saigon, Dead Prez’s commercial demise was preordained by the powers that be and their “agenda”.

They shut Dead Prez down. They Put the mussle on Stic[.ma] and M[-1], quick. As great as they were and as big as they were, had the label at the time really put the energy that they would put  behind a group  that was spreading violence or a group that was spreading ignorance, they would have had a much bigger impact. They were loved. Dead Prez was loved, because a lot of people understood. But the system said, hey, this is not conducive to us. To our agenda.

Both Dead Prez and Wu-Tang were signed to Loud/Columbia back in 2000. Dead Prez released their debut album Let’s Get Free in March 2010, eight months before Wu-Tang Clan released their third studio album, The W. Wu-Tang Clan’s following album, The Iron Flag would be released a year after. Dead Prez’s second album Revolutionary But Gangster was not released until four years later and less than a month Sony Music and  Bertelsmann Music Group formed Sony BMG 50-50 venture.

Check out the full interview here.

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  • MrNoName2K

    I really cant compare the 2.. they were 2 separate groups with 2 separate styles

    • Yeah, but the labels do be pushing TRASH!

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Yea but why? Do you think it’s an actual “agenda”? At some point we have to start blaming fans. WE (you and I and some others) love thought provoking, lyrical music. Even the ratchetness has its place, But it seems the labels know the majority of fans don’t want to think when they listen to music. I’ve had people tell me point blank that they don’t care about the intricacies of rhyme patterns, compound syllables or the message. They just wanna “turn up” or whatever the new slang is these days. Real hip hop fans are few and far in between. It is of my opinion that labels give fans what they want… (I hate bringing dude up all the time) Look at Pac for example, How many “militant” albums did he have before A.E.O.M.? Like 3? NO ONE CARED, Then come the “First off f**k your b***h…” and the “Out on bail fresh out of jail…” and BOOM.

      • Distribution.

        Full jails keep America eating!

      • Black Adam

        “You must water the seeds so that they may grow.”The ppl have been dumbed down, so yes it is an agenda. Especially the late 80’s/90’s babies and on.

        You’re half right about Pac though. He was well known before A.E.O.M. Had movies and the whole 9 but def wasnt selling like that album did. Pac learned that in order to get the masses to listen to his message, he would have to “dumb down” to what they respected at the time, which was the Gangsta life style. A Revolutionary in wolves clothing. Double edged sword. Whether he made the right choice or not depends only on if his message was received as he intended.

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  • Brindle

    WU TANG WASN’T CONSCIOUS, SAIGON DUMB

    • AlbertoRipRon

      Then you have never listened to a Wu Tang album…

    • Black Adam

      Third and fourth singles were i Can it be so simple and C.R.E.A.M. You didnt catch the consciousness in there?

  • don king

    Dead Prez were the fvckin shit back than! i remember hearin their joint hiphop 4 the first time. that ish is still bangin hard through the speakers! the whole album was dope.

    • Tx_Vandal187

      The intro bout the wolve and crack is my shit til this day I play it for my nephew

  • Dhz30

    Lets Get Free is a classic..was listenin to that shit as a youngster

  • @Real_SirJamie

    “Dead Prez released their debut album Let’s Get Free in March 2010, eight months before Wu-Tang Clan released their third studio album, The W.

    -Sighs-

  • David Gonz

    LOUD RECORDS WAS GOING DOWNHILL AT THE TIME, IF AMNYTHING YOU SHOULD PRAISE THE FACT THEY GOT SO BIG WITH HARDLY ANY PROMOTION. SAIGON IS JUST SALTY CUZ HIS BRAND OF MUSIC NEVER TOOK OFF…

  • Papi Peligro

    The labels go where the sales go. The sales go where the trend goes. Listen to the radio its some DUMB TRAP SONGS. Like some type of way. HIp Hop has the right chant to sale. But soccer moms don’t want that. They want to hear trap music.

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  • Django 2Chainz

    The Dead Prez released their first album in 2010?? Im pretty sure I Heard Dave Chappelle walk out to they music long before then But I dont know

    • dehova

      My brother went to the US the year before 9/11 and bought me their first album so you’re not tripping.

      • Django 2Chainz

        Yeaaa AHH be trippin on they facts…All these blogs do really smh

    • don king

      2010? lol i didnt even notice this dumb mistake. i dont really read the crapy articles anymore, cause they r always full with bs. my eyes just fly over it. i got the feelin that ahh writers dont listen 2 hip hop or even care bout it. all those mistakes in writing n just blank wrong information, smh seems like this fvckin up ish is their new lane.

      • dehova

        I’m sure the writer is a kid with a crayon and a fvxving helmet!

  • Mack

    Just look at the label names behind it all. Who really thinks that Bertelsmann is going to support this music?

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  • meanygreene

    there has to be a conscious rapper or group out there, there has to be. if you know any(besides the great KRS-ONE who ate nellys’ ass, then gave him a piece back), please let me know. or a rapper that does not profusely use the N-word(which as I get older, I get sick of hearing)

    • Von Halford

      Let’s see. Black Thought, The Roots, Nas, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco, Brother Ali, Aesop Rock, E-LP, Outkast, Killer Mike, Killah Priest, Zion I, The Grouch, Murs, De La Soul, Del the Funky Homosapien, Deltron, Heiroglyphics, Pep Love, Living Legends, Oldominion, Grayskul, Dark Time Sunshine, Hail Mary Mallon, Doomtree, Atmosphere, Dead Prez just dropped a new very conscious album and the list goes on and on.

      • Arrie Mental Woodard

        just because people rap with intelligence doesnt mean they should be labeled conscious. black Thought is not a conscious rapper. he is an mc with suberb lyricism but he is from the streets, both parents murdered and just happens to be intelligent. Thought can thug it out with the best of em and also break down 16 or 24 bars with the best lyricist out there. alot of the names on this list probably would not consider themselves conscious…. shit Common doesnt even like that term.

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  • Dan_Tebasco

    Stupid conspiracy I like Dead Prez but I think that in alot of song they can come across as anti-white so that’s what held them back from blowing up in a major way as half or more of the rap-customers are white, where as Wu-Tang always showed loved to all races…

    • Arrie Mental Woodard

      thats what made dead prez! and for the record dam near every song came across as anti white