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Mr. Untouchable: The Rise, Fall, and Resurrection of Heroin’s Teflon Don 
Published Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:41 AM
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By Danielle Stolich
Often name-dropped by countless rappers and touted as the "John Gotti" of the 1970s, Leroy "Nicky" Barnes bares his life story in this narrative account.  Written in collaboration with author Tom Folsom, Mr. Untouchable: The Rise, Fall, and Resurrection of Heroin’s Teflon Don (Rugged Land) is the unadulterated story of a Harlem linchpin told in his own words. Look no further for pure, unglorified insight into the mind of a kingpin; not always pretty but real.
 
Neither cautionary nor praiseful of his former lifestyle, Barnes simply tells the truth and nothing but. There are no sob stories here as he objectively outlines his childhood, his drug addiction, his time served in jail and how he became Harlem’s "Teflon Don". Barnes’ candor makes for a book that you will want to re-read in order to understand the psyche of a man who unabashedly had drug dealing down to a science. He did it well and outlines much of that in this book. But what makes Mr. Untouchable so appealing is that Barnes never seeks approval nor gloats about the money, power and respect he had in his heyday, although much of what he did (parties at the Time Life Building, high-speed chases with NYPD in foreign sports cars) was unheard of for a Black man during his era, especially one involved in illegal activities.
 
Mr. Untouchable highlights much of what most people don’t know about Barnes and The Council, the infamous drug-dealing outfit he belonged to. Members’ personalities and character flaws are exposed along with specific events that led up to the demise of the organization. No one is spared as Barnes gives it straight, no chaser about his women (“She was just a girl I knocked up on our first date whose needs I provided for as a gentleman”), his enemies (“I want you to read every word of my story and see where I put you and ask yourself, was it worth it?”) and even what led to his cooperation with law enforcement which resulted in release from prison in 1998 at age 64.
 
Replete with vivid imagery and brutal honesty, Barnes’story will take you on a vibrant ride through Harlem that’s better than any blaxploitation movie you could ever watch. But unlike a movie, this story is true and recounts the regret, loneliness and betrayal felt by anyone who has ever been part of America ’s drug trade and prison system.


Comments

 

BIG Ry said:

I've read it,He really tries to justify his snitching as getting even for them sleeping with his woman.Even though he didn't get out for like another 20 years after ratting,a snitch is a snitch! FUCK NICKY BARNES,LONG LIVE GUY FISHER.
August 16, 2007 12:06 PM
 

odeisel said:

People should know the dark side and stop making legends out of criminals.  Good review. Well Written . hopefully nyone that reads th ebook looks at the brutal truth and not romanticize it
August 16, 2007 12:18 PM
 

Gunz & Butta Family said:

I bought this book about a month or so and read it in a day or two.  It was the best book that I have read in a long time.  Barnes tells the whole story!!!  He gives real insight into his organization, his thought process and keeps it raw.  He gives the whole truth good and bad, he does not downplay or glorify the lifestyle that he led and in the end he accepts responsibility for the destruction that he caused to other people's lives, his children's lives and in the community.  Although Barnes did indeed "Snitch" on his whole organization including his girlfriend and his wife, he served all but 1 year of a 30 year sentance.  So, he did not "snitch" to get some time knocked off.  In this era of "Stop Snitching" there becomes a point where you just have to man up.  He "snitched" out of anger, he "snitched out of jelously, but most of all he "snitched" because of loyalty.  The moral of this book is loyalty.  Throughout the ups & downs, good and bad times Barnes was always loyal to people who were not always as loyal to him.  Wether it was the commission screwing the connect over or stepping on the product, or His wife having relations with one of his workers or Guy Fisher flossin one of  Barnes broads and cars around town.  All of the women in the NYC why bang his???  The fact still remains that everyone agreed to a set of rules "Treat My Brother as I Treat Myself".  Once Barnes caught his case, those rules or standards went out of the window.  He could have kept the connect all to himself, but he took a group of ex-junkies and made them all rich beyond their wildest dreams.  He treated them all as equals or peers, not workers.  The man made sure everyone's legal bills were paid when he was out but no one came to assist him in his time of need.  They said "to hell with him, so in return he said to hell with them all and "snitched".  This book is a must read!!!  He even talks briefly about Puff's pops being killed.  Two Gunz Up!!!!
August 16, 2007 12:48 PM
 

Boss Up said:

i will check this out

i always remembered that line from Shyne-Bad Boys when he said "blame nicky barnes for hittin my moms"
August 16, 2007 12:56 PM
 

Hoodgrown said:

Great snyopsis, Gunz & Butta Family.
I'm going to have to peep this.






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August 16, 2007 12:57 PM
 

COMINGSOON said:

THIS BOOK IS ABOUT 6 MONTHS OLD. WHO PAID YOU, AND HOW MUCH? TO TRY AND ADVERTISE THIS RAT, FUCK BOYS BOOK.   FUCK THIS RAT BASTARD HE STARTED THE WHOLE RATTING EPIDEMIC

DEATH B-4 DISHONOR
August 16, 2007 12:59 PM
 

JayAllah said:

hes a snitch no matter how you write it.
August 16, 2007 1:02 PM
 

B-wEsT said:

yall kill me with the snitch stuff - if you was facing 25 to life - i bet you would snitch 2 - tuff guys dont spend all day online responding to articles
August 16, 2007 1:37 PM
 

junegemini said:

@ Gunz & Butta

I wasn't even considering reading this book until I read your comment. You made the book seem like it was the best thing since slice bread so I guess I'll be checking this out.

Fuck that whole "Stop Snitching" shit...if I was in jail for 25 to life I would have "snitched" too, just as the next person would have
August 16, 2007 1:49 PM
 

J. Boy said:

Imagine someone whom you think is loyal...turns and betrays you and your family.  Does he deserve to be exonerated?  Does he deserve forgivness? Would you do 30 years for someone who betrayed you? Would you do 30 years for someone who spits at your demand for loyalty? If you say yes....you're a damn liar straight up.  No one is that humane.  If you X that person, the 30 years will still stand. There is a code of the streets.  A snitch is a snitch you're right, but a disloyal friendship is even worse.  I do not praise snitching, but I can't stand disloyalty at all especially if you've made milions of dollars with someone you call a friend.  It's a good book that has many teachings.  
August 16, 2007 1:49 PM
 

odeisel said:

there is no code of the streets.  not in the mob, not in th epolice, not in the gagns, and not on the streets. If you think there are then you will be the nixt moron rotting in prison while these peopel you honored with a  code are out partying on th eback of your sacrifice.  stay away from the streets but if you won't then understand that you are on your own.  Some one is not gonna choose you over their family .
August 16, 2007 1:53 PM
 

playa629 said:

Death before Dishonor....That is hypocrisy at its finest. His people broke the code of loyalty by sleeping with his woman. One of the codes of Omerta (mafia) is you do not sleep with another mans wife...you do not even touch her.

They broke the code of loyalty first, and he did what he could do at the time and made them go down with him. He didnt do it because he couldnt handle jail, like the rest of these so called gangsters. He told the truth because his people had destroyed the entire organization during a free for all and for greed.

Get your facts straight before you start talking wreckless....
August 16, 2007 2:36 PM
 

BrickcityRunIsh!!! said:

Ain't that the truth!!!
August 16, 2007 2:37 PM
 

duce420 said:

thats right odeisel in these real streets not the dayum rap streets cam and them rap about, aint no honor nigga barely wanna put in on the sack much less take that prison time for a another man.Matter of fact the raps niggas do now is dayum near snitch'n.
August 16, 2007 2:42 PM
 

duce420 said:

rappers are not gangsters and guns dont make you hard.Selling dope dont make you a man neiter does pimp'n.I'm not throwing stones but as i live in downtown L.A and see all of this, the people that live those lifestyles named above are not really happy this is just a means to an end, to tell you the truth half of them wanna rap and get out of the game .I laugh when video trappers be on tv like i dont need rap , well take yo punk ass back on the street .
August 16, 2007 2:47 PM
 

Smashit said:

Times have changed and snitchin is a thing of the past - now you need to keep your business to yourself and trust no one if you really gettin it - there's only room for one boss and his employees and the employees only need to know what to do to get their salary.  If you get snitched on its your own fault - they should do a "stop talking shit about your shit" campaign.
August 16, 2007 3:11 PM
 

fdc629 said:

this is must see fo sho!!!!
August 16, 2007 3:18 PM
 

Biz Man said:

Guy Fisher, Guy Fisher, Guy Fisher, Guy Fisher ,Guy Fisher ,Guy, Guy Fisher is the guy who Nicky Barnes told on but Guy Fisher was the loyal friend who in Don Diva Mag said : He buried Nicky Barnes mother when she passed away and buried her like the queen she was. He also said he also would send her presents on the holidays and say they were fron Nicky Barnes. I`m sorry but you don`t snitch on the Guy Fisher who takes care of your mom when you can`t take care of her.  Guy Fisher is coming with his book and movie soon i can`t wait for that because it will be raw and uncut, oh yeah and from a real gangster. Guy Fisher is still in prison standing strong & tall and i respect his loyalty too the game he once played.  


Biz Man


August 16, 2007 3:20 PM
 

StrezzBoss said:

If u cant do the time, dont do the crime..... Snitched cause of a broad? thats why these niggaz need to go work at subways instead of being in the street gettin into shit they cant handle.
August 16, 2007 3:21 PM
 

Just Being said:

I'm gonna check it out.  "Death Before Dishonor" is a fantasy O.G.'s (who've probably done their fair share of snitching thus still on the streets) instill in the youngins so they won't snitch on they ass.  Ain't no such thing!! I'm choosing my life and family over any nigga i'm "getting money" with ANYDAY.  Call it what you want.  You only live once.  I'll be damn if I give up 30 years of my life so some degenerates can sit on the block and praise me for being a "real nigga" while my wife and kids have to find a way to make it without having REAL MAN around.  
August 16, 2007 3:22 PM
 

THE EVUL BEANUS said:

eh - I am a fan of the gangster culture, however he did rat out his friends...
August 16, 2007 3:30 PM
 

FATBOYSLIM said:

SNITCHIN IS WEAK SHIT, NICKY IS A SNITCH WHY AIN'T NOBODY ATE THAT ASS UP YET,SNITCHIN OVER SOME PUSSY, NOW U KNOW HE WAS WEAK WITH THE LADIES,INSTEAD OF SINGIN HE SHOULDA CUT HER ASS OFF, SHOUTS TO GUY FISCHER STILL HOLDIN IT DOWN, GOOD LUCK WHEN U COME HOME!!!!!
August 16, 2007 3:38 PM
 

chicagolove said:

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/ watch this movie from start to finish
August 16, 2007 4:17 PM
 

dazed06 said:

FUCK THAT!!! HE'S A SNITCH. ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT THEY SLEPT WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND WAS A COP OUT. NOT ONLY DID HE TELL ON THE PESON THAT BANG  HIS GIRL HE TOLD ON HIS FAMILY TOO. SO TO ME IT'S AN EXCUSE. ALSO FOR HIM TELLING ON PEOPLE WAS KILLED FOR THAT SHIT. BET HE DIDNT TELL YOU THAT. NO MATTER HOW HE PUT IT. HE DID IT TO HISSELF, NOBODY FORCE HIM TO SELL DRUGS!!!!!!!!
August 16, 2007 4:18 PM
 

BKsDrDRE said:

Your all gangstas till the po-po show...
August 16, 2007 4:23 PM
 

MarqMack said:

He's a snitch, it is what it is
August 16, 2007 4:50 PM
 

J. Boy said:

You're exactly right BKsDrDRE:  All of you are gangsters till police come knocking at your door.  
August 16, 2007 5:27 PM
 

COMINGSOON said:

for all you computer thugs , watch the guy fisher movie, read the Don Diva issue 28, F.E.D.S issue 20, then that RATS book after you do all that leave a message.

SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE REAL CATS IN THE GAME, "HOLD YO HEAD UP HIGH"
THEY CAN TRAP YOUR BODY BUT NOT YOUR MIND


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August 16, 2007 5:27 PM
 

COMINGSOON said:

Just Being said:
I'm gonna check it out.  "Death Before Dishonor" is a fantasy O.G.'s (who've probably done their fair share of snitching thus still on the streets) instill in the youngins so they won't snitch on they ass.  Ain't no such thing!! I'm choosing my life and family over any nigga i'm "getting money" with ANYDAY.  Call it what you want.  You only live once.  I'll be damn if I give up 30 years of my life so some degenerates can sit on the block and praise me for being a "real nigga" while my wife and kids have to find a way to make it without having REAL MAN around.  
August 16, 2007 3:22 PM

you cats kill me turning bitch when it gets thick, UPS  is hiring stay out the streets

DEATH B-4 DISHONOR
August 16, 2007 5:30 PM
 

COMINGSOON said:

Just Being said:
I'm gonna check it out.  "Death Before Dishonor" is a fantasy O.G.'s (who've probably done their fair share of snitching thus still on the streets) instill in the youngins so they won't snitch on they ass.  Ain't no such thing!! I'm choosing my life and family over any nigga i'm "getting money" with ANYDAY.  Call it what you want.  You only live once.  I'll be damn if I give up 30 years of my life so some degenerates can sit on the block and praise me for being a "real nigga" while my wife and kids have to find a way to make it without having REAL MAN around.  
August 16, 2007 3:22 PM

DONT DO THE CRIME IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME.  YOU CATS KILL ME TURNING PUSSY WHEN IT GETS THICK, UPS IS HIRING STAY OUT THE STREETS.

DEATH B-4 DISHONOR
August 16, 2007 5:35 PM
 

arana roja said:

Fuck Nickey Barnes, long live Guy Fischer?? Do you people realize what BOTH of these niggas and their "family" did to Harlem? Harlem is still reeling from the destruction caused by the ground work that these niggas laid in the 70's. I am definately interested in gangster culture/ history etc, but to say "Long live" any murderous drug dealer is fucking retarded.
August 16, 2007 5:35 PM
 

COMINGSOON said:

Just Being said:
I'm gonna check it out.  "Death Before Dishonor" is a fantasy O.G.'s (who've probably done their fair share of snitching thus still on the streets) instill in the youngins so they won't snitch on they ass.  Ain't no such thing!! I'm choosing my life and family over any nigga i'm "getting money" with ANYDAY.  Call it what you want.  You only live once.  I'll be damn if I give up 30 years of my life so some degenerates can sit on the block and praise me for being a "real nigga" while my wife and kids have to find a way to make it without having REAL MAN around.  
August 16, 2007 3:22 PM

DONT DO THE CRIME IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME.  YOU CATS KILL ME TURNING PUSSY WHEN IT GETS THICK, UPS IS HIRING STAY OUT THE STREETS.

DEATH B-4 DISHONOR
August 16, 2007 5:35 PM
 

Majerio said:

Imma snitch. fuk yall ni**as
August 16, 2007 5:38 PM
 

arana roja said:

Then we wonder why "they" say we are all fucked up. I can just see a non hiphop motherfucker reading this shit like....."Look at these dumbass niggERS. This Guy (with the help of a few others) damned near destroyed one of Black America's most visible and historically relevant cities and they PRAISE HIM? They must really be animals."  Come on people, it's one thing to be aware of the things that they have done, even to be actively interested in them, but to make them out to be heroes.....Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
August 16, 2007 5:40 PM
 

arana roja said:

Oh yeah, And I am a nigga that has been in the streets and been snitched on and the whole nine yards. But the real is this: real niggas that's in the streets ain't doing it for glory or fame. They are doing it to fucking eat and they FEEL LIKE there is no other way for them. Real niggas in the street would jump at the opportunity to be successful at something other than being in the streets, so all of you silly ass kids making dope dealers and murderers out to be movie stars need to wake the fuck up...it aint all good.
August 16, 2007 5:48 PM
 

rammagic said:

Loyalty   and  a  man's  family is  the  most  important  thing  to  a  man. His  team  clearly  played  him. Snitching  i  dont  co-sign  but  when  you  bite the  hand  that  feeds  you ,  you  need  to  be  slapped ! Homeboy  didnt  snitch,  he  just  slapped  the  shyt  out  of  them. If  there  are  suppose  to  be  all  boys  everybody  knows  and  i  dont  car  where  your  from,  a  mans  wife  is  off  limits.
August 16, 2007 5:55 PM
 

COMINGSOON said:

arana roja said:
Then we wonder why "they" say we are all fucked up. I can just see a non hiphop motherfucker reading this shit like....."Look at these dumbass niggERS. This Guy (with the help of a few others) damned near destroyed one of Black America's most visible and historically relevant cities and they PRAISE HIM? They must really be animals."  Come on people, it's one thing to be aware of the things that they have done, even to be actively interested in them, but to make them out to be heroes.....Get the fuck outta here with that shit.  
arana roja said:
Oh yeah, And I am a nigga that has been in the streets and been snitched on and the whole nine yards. But the real is this: real niggas that's in the streets ain't doing it for glory or fame. They are doing it to fucking eat and they FEEL LIKE there is no other way for them. Real niggas in the street would jump at the opportunity to be successful at something other than being in the streets, so all of you silly ass kids making dope dealers and murderers out to be movie stars need to wake the fuck up...it aint all good.

REAL TALK
August 16, 2007 6:04 PM
 

J. Boy said:

I could care less about any drug dealer being snitched on or doing all the snitching.  I hate drugs and have no real props to anyone who sells it.  I understand the reasons but as an intellectual, I can't see myself praising anyone who ruins life by gaining quick cash.  That is the problem in the streets today and will always be a problem until we all become intellectuals ourselves and look for other avenues to gain success.  If you made a milliion dollars off of selling drugs and you're still in the streets hustling, you're a fucking idiot.  
August 16, 2007 6:07 PM
 

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PLEASE STOP BUYING DIS BOOK & SUPPORTING DIS FAGGOTT MUTHAFUCKA!!!

FUCK DIS SNITCH-AZZ, RAT-BASTARD, DICK-N-DA-BOOTY-AZZ COWARD!!!

HOPE HIM & HIS MAMA FRY IN HELL, PUSSY NIGGA!!!

MATTER OF FACT, FUCK ALL DEEZ "SNITCHING-TA-GET-THEYSELF-OFF" COWARDS!!

FUCK ALL RATS!!!

IF U CAN'T DO THE TIME, THEN PLEEEEAAAASSSE DON'T DO DA CRIME!!!

IT AIN'T LIKE MUTHAFUCKAZ DON'T KNOW DA CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS B/F THEY JUMP OFF DA PORCH.....

PUSSY-AZZ NIGGAZ NEED TO STAND UP LIKE A MAN AND TAKE THEY LICK....YA HEARD ME!!

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August 16, 2007 6:49 PM
 

SpliffStaR said:

Just Being said:
I'm gonna check it out.  "Death Before Dishonor" is a fantasy O.G.'s (who've probably done their fair share of snitching thus still on the streets) instill in the youngins so they won't snitch on they ass.  Ain't no such thing!! I'm choosing my life and family over any nigga i'm "getting money" with ANYDAY.  Call it what you want.  You only live once.  I'll be damn if I give up 30 years of my life so some degenerates can sit on the block and praise me for being a "real nigga" while my wife and kids have to find a way to make it without having REAL MAN around.  




^^

U BITCH ASS NIGGA.

why the fuck wud u get in the game, if u know u only guna snitch ?...fuck outa here

if u cant do the time, dont do the crime its that simple...snitchs make me sick, they shud all burn in thell if u ask me...how u guna call yourself a man, if u a snitch ?

leave the streets alone, stay legal...then u aint got nuthin worry about, they plenty ways to make paper legally !!!
August 16, 2007 6:49 PM
 

Numb3rzman said:

It's funny how people want to disrepect your name once they know you are a snitch, but wouldn't dare say it to your face or even think about crossing a man like that, when he was doing what he did to get where he was at... feel me? Ya'll some damn lightweight thugs, because if ya'll was movin like you wish you were movin, you wouldn't have time to be on the net speaking on other folks business...
August 16, 2007 7:01 PM
 

ipoppedoff said:

Bought the book about two months ago but have yet to read it.  Regardless dude is a snitch and noone should take his words as 100% truth.  

August 16, 2007 7:03 PM
 

TWON THE DON said:

im check it out to see what was really on dude head when he did that shit. the streets aint 4 everybody. cause when they get u they got ya and then they hit u wit them foot ball numbers. gon do yo time man.
August 16, 2007 7:25 PM
 

DSheezy said:

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT A NI99A IS GONNA DO WHAT THEY GOTTA DO TO SAVE THERE OWN ASS. PEOPLE GOING TO PRISON FOR 20 SOME YEARS FOR THERE BOY IS IN RAP SONGS. LOOK AT THIS MIKE VICK CASE. DID YA'LL REALLY THINK THEM NI99AS WAS GONNA TRY TO DO BATTLE WITH THE FEDS? PLEAZE. FOR ANYBODY TALKIN ABOUT THEY AINT NO SNITCH AND AINT GONNA TELL ON THERE BOY, LIKE BERNIE MACK SAID "YOU AINT NO PUNK, YOU A NEW FOOL. CUZ I'LL BE DAMNED IF I GO 2 JAIL FOR ANY OF YOU MF'S"
August 16, 2007 7:27 PM
 

Just Being said:

ComingSoon just cause you live on A street don't mean you from the streets.  If your street got a starbucks on it...it ain't hood.  Stay on the computer and out of fantasies.  I'm part of probably less than 1% of the cats in this thread who can speak from a first person perspective.  From your comments I can tell you watch to many movies and listen to too much "gangsta rap".  Read a book lil nigga.
August 16, 2007 8:22 PM
 

Just Being said:

Spliffstar...refer to the comment I made to Cummin Soon.  Yall lil niggas is funny.  Gangstas don't have time to beef on the net.  Its plenty of fiends outside.  Where you at?
August 16, 2007 8:25 PM
 

Just Being said:

And gangstas damn sure don't know NOTHIN bout soccer.  
August 16, 2007 8:30 PM
 

regithug said:

if you cant do the time don't do the crime,simple way to avoid snitching
August 16, 2007 8:52 PM
 

Just Being said:

For the real men who might've took my comments sideways...I'm just tryin to play devils advocate for these lil faggots and their fantasies.  I've never snitched and probably never will.  I will say this though.  I"ve always done my dirt for dolo.  I've never involved my patnas in none of my bullshit.  However, any associate that I may have encountered when I was in survival mode...I really don't give a fuck about.  I have loyalty to me and mine and that's it.  Any nigga that's done any kind of dirt will agree...the worse thing you can do is mix business and your loved ones.  If yall niggas want to live by any rap lyric let it be this one.  "A thug changes/and love changes/and best friends become strangers".  That's the realest shit Nas ever said.  It's very true to life.  If there are any lil niggas up here who really got their backs to the wall and you are forced to do some dirt.  Remember that.  Do your dirt for dolo and include as little niggas as possible.  That way when them boys do come all you gotta worry about is yourself.  That's real talk.
August 16, 2007 10:07 PM
 

TWON THE DON said:

FOOT BALL NUMBERS! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.............IM TELLIN..........................
August 16, 2007 10:50 PM
 

kinglopo said:

Want to read this, not cause of who he is but because i love to read. It sounds interesting.


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August 16, 2007 10:51 PM
 

oakyo said:

the fu*in nerve of some of you cats. you talk all that loyalty shit,  lets see your asses locked up and your so called peeps are tappin your wife and aint lookin out for you. fuk them, snitch on them all.
August 16, 2007 11:03 PM
 

TWON THE DON said:

HELL YEAH I FILL OAKYO. SOME DUDE START TELLIN WHEN THE GET PULL OVER FOR RUNNI THE STOP SIGN. WAIT C WHAT THEY WANT 1ST.
August 17, 2007 12:29 AM
 

sclass0020 said:

i read some of these comments and nicky barnes wasnt doing time for anyone besides himself, no one made him do shit. his actions had reprucussions, HIS actions, just like every mans actions and to say because someone fucked a woman whom he did not own is reason to snitch is bs. this is just an excuse, if a friend did fuck his ladies that was wrong and he would reap what he had sown, but none of that deserved what he did. they are police and federal workers, let them earn their pay.
August 17, 2007 12:47 AM
 

D504 said:

LMAO its funny how all these Rappers talking bout how much weight they selling, how hard they are and how they quick to pop at somebody and PLEASE STOP with the stop snitching shit these niggas ain't facing no time and talking bout stop snitching. Real talk watch first 48 and you will see how everybody facing time talks when the shit hit's the fan and these are real niggas out the hood no rappers. All these rappers got everybody bucked up most of them are fake as hell and just trying to sell records don't fall for the bull shit.
August 17, 2007 6:34 PM
 

animalcub03 said:

i dont care how close u think u r wit ya "mans-n-nem", or how g a dude think he is, in the end if yall do some dirt together and get knocked niggas gon look out for self first...thats just how it go, its human nature...

not saying its human nature to snitch but when sh*t hit the fan to make sure U got U covered first

plus all the big dogs that was ever in the game fell anyway...we all seen American Gangster series on BET, we all seen BLOW, most of us seen Cocaine Cowboys(all real life figures, no Tony Montana)...in that life no matter how big u get, u fall bottom line point blank period
August 17, 2007 7:00 PM
 

odoggz said:

fuck a street code or whatever, if he took himself and others out of the game, better for the LAW ABIDING BLACK PEOPLE who were spared life, for just one more day! So I'm glad he snitched and fucked up his operation. Idiot black people need to stop celebrating and making legends of this kind of work that destroyed and destroys many of our people's lives. And every asshole talking about they wouldn't snitch is just like Mike Vick's boys who sang in a heartbeat! All acting tough until club Fed comes at your ass hard, then you're the bitch you're pretending not to be, online, just because you typed like you were hard! lol  You'd snitch too!
August 17, 2007 7:03 PM
 

smokachu said:

Lmao @ snitchin' outta loyalty. I'm glad I ain't in the Gunz & Butta Family. Won't be loyal to MY black ass. And lmao @ everybody swears you have to be a certain caliber of person to be on online. And last but not least, lmmfao @ some of these fake conscious people talkin bout upliftin blacks but puttin' em down while they're "uplifting." And y'all wonder why shit is :))
August 17, 2007 7:19 PM
 

BLAK4DMD said:

a snitch is a snitch is a snitch!!! u rat bastard!!

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August 17, 2007 8:32 PM
 

illseeds knowledge said:

@   StrezzBoss- haha real talk subway, or quizno's either one.

fuck uh snitchy barnes!
August 17, 2007 10:05 PM
 

fifthwardtx said:

i too am amazed at the internet gangsters who holla RAT,SNITCH blah blah blah... get off the jock of Tony Montana and them mafia movies...
the REAL GAME is played by no rules, it's hustlin yu' idiots, you dealing with drug dealers, murderers and thieves of which there is no honor amongst these... you are stupid to think that among this group you will find upstanding gentlemen who are straight up businessmen...DUMB
I must say, Nicky did get done by the cops cause he still did all of his time, but I can tell you...99% of yall who screaming rat, snitch and all that would snitch too, straight up! and if you wouldn't you the idiot to give up the company of your loved ones and kids to leave them in a cold world to go to prison and get homo'd by some cat, cause you didn't snitch...

get outta here, those fairy tale movie days are over! these internet supa thugs crak me up

August 17, 2007 10:12 PM
 

fifthwardtx said:

i too am amazed at the internet gangsters who holla RAT,SNITCH blah blah blah... get off the jock of Tony Montana and them mafia movies...
the REAL GAME is played by no rules, it's hustlin yu' idiots, you dealing with drug dealers, murderers and thieves of which there is no honor amongst these... you are stupid to think that among this group you will find upstanding gentlemen who are straight up businessmen...DUMB
I must say, Nicky did get done by the cops cause he still did all of his time, but I can tell you...99% of yall who screaming rat, snitch and all that would snitch too, straight up! and if you wouldn't you the idiot to give up the company of your loved ones and kids to leave them in a cold world to go to prison and get homo'd by some cat, cause you didn't snitch...

get outta here, those fairy tale movie days are over! these internet supa thugs crak me up

August 17, 2007 10:12 PM
 

everybodyisasnitch said:

all I can say is....keep snitching
August 17, 2007 11:06 PM
 

Da Realeast nigga Out said:

All These Gangsta'z On Here...Get Da Fuck Oughta Here Like Some Of ya'll Know First Hand How It it Feels To Do Wut u gotta Do Out Here/We on Da Block Wit A labtop Wit gangsta'z Right Now Reading All Dis Bullshit/We Tryin To go From Da Block To Da Top To Get In A Nice Azz Crib Like Where Some Of U Niggaz Live @/

Some Of Ya'll See Da Tru Light Of This Shit But Still Aint Gone Fully Understand Dis Street Shit-If Nikki Barnes Would Of Knew What He Know now Back Then Don't U Think He Wouldn't Put Hisself n A Position Where He Wouldn't Have to Snitch?

There Is Loyalty In Da Game It Just Depends On Who U Fuckin Wit/Errbody Gone Talk Dat Talk but U Should Know Better Than To Trust Anybody! After Seeing Paid N Full, Datz A Real Movie We Live Out Errday here N Da Lou That's Why our Musik Scene Fucked Up We Don't Trust Nobody Here We Got A History Of Skanless Shit Going On Around Here!Trustin Yo Grandma A Put U in jail!
If Met A Niggaz @ Yo Job And Ya'll Both Agreed In A Regular Conversation Dat Ya'll Don't like Snitches-U Gone Say To Yoself Well I Can Fuck Wit Dude Til Further Notice-Then Further Notice Comes He Catch A Case ByHimmuthafuckinself And Snitch On You Cuz U Worth Snitchin To Leser His Sentence-Pause-Niggaz Ought Here Lookin For New Friends To Snitch On To Get They Mans In Jail Lesser Time-Back To It-Aint U Gone Be Pissed Da Fuck Off, U Gone Wish U Never Said Shit To His Azz & Think About Every Convo Ya'll Had While U Sittin Locked Da Fuck Up Watchin Time Go By U 20 Then U 30 And U Like I Aint Did Shit Wit My 1 Life God gave My Azz-A Nigga Doing U like Dat You'll Snitch no Doubt Especially If Ya Moms Coming To See U Locked Up 4 No Reason Seein Dat Hurtin Da Woman Dat Raised U Right,You;ll Snitch Faster Than Lil Cease!!!
Back n My Day It Wasn't Cool For Errbody To Know U Was A D-Boy/So Why Is It Now That's Like Snictchin On Yoself Dumb Azz!! I Made Songs About My Life & Put it On Wax And Guess What Da Fuck Happened Since Then? I've Been Under Investegation For 5 To Six Years Two Of My niggaz Got busted,And They Tryin To Get me 3 Weeks  Ago Atf Ran Up N my Spot Didn't Get Shit,Last Weekend They Followed Me Errwhere I Went Til I Stopped & They Didn't Get Shit And Each Time They Let Me Go They Said:I Know U Gone Probally Make A Song About Uz.Lol Know Dat Was My Dumb Azz Fault For Tryin To keep It Real Know I See Why Niggaz make Walk It Outs & Shit It Aint Safe To keep It Real On A Record I'ma Make Me A Dumb Azz Crank Dat S.B. to Keep From Talkin about This Real Shit I Go Thru-So I Agree We Need To have A Keep It to  Urself Campaign I"m Out On U Young'ns!Til Somebody say Sumtin Stupid!
August 17, 2007 11:09 PM
 

jiggajay said:

Okay so we talked about Nicky Barnes but we forget about the boss of all bosses in harlem in the 60's and 70's Frank Lucas. who not only ran NY, but was also above the Gambino family.
August 18, 2007 12:16 AM
 

fifisgay2 said:

August 18, 2007 4:56 AM
 

Biz Man said:

Nicky Barnes snitched on 87 people they all did`nt sleep with his women. Some real life mob guys not that movie shit.
August 18, 2007 6:27 AM
 

L-GUTTAH said:

I don't f**k wit snitches. Nicky Barnes.... Sammy "The Bull" Gravano........ A snitch is a snitch and like the homie up top said, he's only trying to justify his snitching..... F**k him!!! He should've died in a cell like a stand up guy would do, then he could be the Gotti of his era.
August 18, 2007 8:39 AM
 

Jimmy Konway said:

fuck that snitch
August 18, 2007 9:20 AM
 

Prenz said:

you niggas kill me with all this talk man... safe behind the computer screens... i'm not one to praise snitching at all but on the same not i don't praise to fake as people trying to live vicariously through some movie or rap video they've seen. niether is cool. being fake will get you just as fucked as being a snitch. the real all know this so i'm not spittin at the real right now. its you lames that are so blinded by the bullshit you see and aren't smart enough to research on your own. most you niggas broke and broke niggas will believe anything you tell them. you dudes don't live like you actin on here... you know it. where i come from all the REAL gangstas are never home bc there is an ongoing paper chase that allows little down time. and when my niggas are finished hustlin for the day/night they go to the strip clubs and shit looking for women... NOT run to a computer posting lame as comments on some other cat... just saying though. look at yourself... evaluate your situation... only hoe niggas talk shit. real niggas talk truth. teach these kids man... before they get killed trying to follow this dumb shit on tv... this class is over. i gotta get back to work. peace.

fucks with ya boy man on some realness...

August 18, 2007 11:10 AM
 

HaZZard221 said:

I don't think so....
August 18, 2007 11:16 AM
 

velore said:

SNITCHERS STARTED WITH JUDAS its not new it will be around when your dead and gone - NICKY AND SAMMY THE BULL AND JOE VALACHI , just happen to be the snitchers of our time 90% OF THESE CATS ARE SNITCHERS ON THE LOW. www.myspace.com/1155
August 18, 2007 1:57 PM
 

MAK™ said:

Damn after all these years us black people (men) especially can't find others ways to hustle?... legally at that???

Fuck is wrong with ya'll? There is so many ways out here to make money...yet we got niggaz still on dat bullshit that leads us nowhere. WE need to get out more from our blocks (once in a while)... that's one of the problems... and listenin to your fav  gangster rapper doesn't help as they probably dont live the life they stress on tracks...

Im not for snitching as many have said...(IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME DONT DO THE CRIME MEANS BE READY TO DIE AT ANYTIME)....but umm... Why are we still doing the crimes??? There is a billion new ways to make money in america you know.... people dont go out much and believe in every word a rapper says/movie portrays... sad world we live in...

-mak-
August 18, 2007 5:12 PM
 

MAK™ said:

Damn after all these years us black people (men) especially can't find others ways to hustle?... legally at that???

Fuck is wrong with ya'll? There is so many ways out here to make money...yet we got niggaz still on dat bullshit that leads us nowhere. WE need to get out more from our blocks (once in a while)... that's one of the problems... and listenin to your fav  gangster rapper doesn't help as they probably dont live the life they stress on tracks...

Im not for snitching as many have said...(IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME DONT DO THE CRIME MEANS BE READY TO DIE AT ANYTIME)....but umm... Why are we still doing the crimes??? There is a billion new ways to make money in america you know.... people dont go out much and believe in every word a rapper says/movie portrays... sad world we live in...

-mak-
August 18, 2007 5:12 PM
 

PreciseChi said:

I can't belive people actually argue about snitchin....lol
August 18, 2007 6:10 PM
 

SELASOLJER said:

well first off if i was "nicky" facing 25 to life i wouldn't snitch cause thats the oath u take when u form some type of organized outfit............ a rat is a rat wether 5years,10 years,etc. moefuckaz know they facing federal charges when they start slanging heavy so y the fuck u act suprised when they hit u with a life bid n shit,,,, stop being faggets,like that good old saying says"U DO THE CRIME NOW DO THE TIME" he wasnt giving a shit when he was making millions off all that smack he was pushing, bottom line dude is a snitch,rat,stool pigeon what ever u wanna call it... I'm out like pistol pete on that"KILL ALL RATZ" shit...........
August 18, 2007 8:29 PM
 

ILLAMANIK said:

Im coppin.
August 18, 2007 9:08 PM
 

FlyBoy718 said:

Fuck this snitch
August 18, 2007 10:06 PM
 

northside48hunnid said:

First and Foremost you never snitch and I'm going to say it again you never snitch that shit right there whether you get murked for or not lives with yo snitch ass for the rest of your life you know that if you snitched you are less than dog doo doo you know you aint shit you know if you are a real nigga you cant live with yourself that some shit I could neva eva eva do I can face 50 years and wont snitch on my worst enemy cause that shit is more than just telling thats shit you have to live with the rest of your life with you couldnt handle your time you made those mistakes you knew what you was getting into when you signed up for the shit whatever you do you knew when you signed up,but thats one of the many reasons I cant get into illegal shit cause nigga aint real they bitches and hoes and love to tell when they back against the wall the hardest nigga in the hood a tell on you derrty thats real talk niggas in the street have know honor and they only live by one code save they black ass and yo ass they can give a fuk about young men black and brown men stay out the streets matter fact everyone leave the streets alone that shit is dead its mo snitches than hustlers and real niggas is not there anymore they dead and in jail doing time cause they did not snitch its other ways to make a living I dont give a damn if its working at McDonalds shit you gotta start somewhere its over on the streets dawg niggas aint got no honor take it from a nigga whos been everywhere every city every hood its the same shit different toliet the youngsters are not equiped to handle this shit they have no leaders (ogs) to follow they all dead and locked up and thats where the younger generation his headed dead and locked up its genocide the white man knew this shit 500 years ago when he Wille Lynched our asses. Love your brother and in return he will love you back.stop killing our young and old this shit gots to stop sometime when will we realize the white man is sitting back laughing at our black asses cuzz all we know how to do is hate each other stop hating
August 18, 2007 10:33 PM
 

dOLOSTIMULUS said:

im a reach for it before i make a judgement on homie. but if you  aint never been in that situation, how da fuck can you say what you would do? but i feel like this....everybody aint built for the streets, no matter how thorough they hustle game might be. getting money is only part of the equation, you gotta deal with other aspects, and some niggas dont understand that, aint no trust in the streets and if you showing emotions, you in the wrong line of work.
get your paper up, stay too long and you get popped or you get knocked, when yo name start ringing, what you think niggas aint gone trick to save they own ass!
sound like homie put emotions into it, but i'll read it before i make a final call on it.
August 19, 2007 2:12 AM
 

jovaM6 said:

@ Just Being
"ComingSoon just cause you live on A street don't mean you from the streets.  If your street got a starbucks on it...it ain't hood.  Stay on the computer and out of fantasies"

There is a Starbucks on 125th street right in the middle of Harlem.


To everyone calling people snitches and stuff

I just want to know is a person considered a "Snitch"  if he/she family is murdered and they told the cops who did.

For example in Newark, NJ those kids that were killed execution style one person survived and she is helping the police find the people responsible.  Is she a snitch?

Is a snitch someone who see an elderly person being beat and rob and calls the police. To make it more interesting a black elderly woman being beat by someone from another race.  

My definition of a snitch is someone you do dirt with no matter what it is if you go down and the other person does not Then you keep your mouth shut.  But at the same time if they out there disrespecting you then fuck them.  Do whatever!

It just seems to me a lot of people calling people snitches so they can look  hard and want to be down.  Just remember kids be yourself it won't hurt.
August 19, 2007 8:54 AM
 

TONEBONE aka:T1B1 said:

Can't nobody on this thread speak 4 Nicky Barnes unless you walked in his shoes....and fuck this "Stop snitchin" shit.How bout "Get a education" or better yet "Help your community".All these rappers out now have been influenced by Nicky Barnes in one way or another He was livin this gangsta shit way b4 rap music glorified it.
August 19, 2007 12:37 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

all I could think about is how anything regarding mafia, drugs, etc.  gets so glorified and made to look so cool, how can we fault any of the kids out here who grow up to do the same ish.  Who they gone want to be more like when they grow up, coming from the hood and all,  Donald Trump OR Any Hood Drug King Pin (*place name here*).  Especially with no fathers in the homes.  How could we really watch the news each night, shake our heads and say "I can't believe them kids did that"  And then go on to saying what they need to do.

SHOUT OUT TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY, WE STILL HUSTLING BACKWARDS...meanwhile all the slave built companies headed by the white community, are just doubling there dollars.

never mind this though, just keep bobbing to the beat, read the next 50 rumor or something.  I'll wait another 50 years...

and oh yea shout out to Nicky Barnes trying to look cool in his blue suit, attempting to glorify his failed life.  Shout out to mob movies too, I like them, but I got to thank them for all these gang-stars we got out in our community.  Somehow italian mafia culture effects us more negatively than it effects italians.  wtf?!

Prophet has spoken
August 19, 2007 12:52 PM
 

doeboi5000 said:

Fuck Nicky Barnes!!
August 19, 2007 6:00 PM
 

suge380 said:

Can u really call the man a snitch.  They made a code of conduct, in which his boyz did not follow cus they thought he was outta the picture.  All they had to do is keep paying the lawyer fees and stay away from his bitch.

They broke the code and they got fucked.  If it is to much to be loyal to your crew, then u deserved to get snitched on.  So many niggas don't keep it real when they boyz go down.  Its a two way street people, get the whole story before u judge.
August 19, 2007 7:49 PM
 

HipHopKnowItAll said:

Nicky Barnes is a damn snitch, no matter what he says...If he wouldn't have ratted he would have gotten sentenced to life with out a doubt...Cowards and Snitch ass niggas DIE A 1,000,000 deaths...Nicky Barnes' will be slow and painful.
August 19, 2007 8:50 PM
 

DonHom said:

Smashit said:
Times have changed and snitchin is a thing of the past - now you need to keep your business to yourself and trust no one if you really gettin it - there's only room for one boss and his employees and the employees only need to know what to do to get their salary.  If you get snitched on its your own fault - they should do a "stop talking shit about your shit" campaign.
August 16, 2007 3:11 PM



FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT
August 19, 2007 10:02 PM
 

ahanti 7 said:

To B-wEsT, A snitch is a snitch. I was faced with 25 years to life. The cops wanted me to snitch on my crew. I refused to go down the yellow snitch road, instead I went to trial and beat the case, you know why ? it is because my lawyer held it down. If I do dirt with my comrades and get caught , I am going to take the heat for it.  f*ck anybody that snitches on their comrades. If you do the crime and get caught handle it by yourself.
August 19, 2007 10:27 PM
 

HipHopKnowItAll said:

That's real shit Ahanti 7...If you do a crime wit ya team, fuck it, ya'll all ryde together...Niggas turn State's Evidence and only be facing probation...The rats in the Mike Vick case is a perfect example of sum bitch ass niggas.
August 19, 2007 11:40 PM
 

prplayboy said:

nicky barnes is what most rappers wanna be or idolized even though he was a snitch.He still ran the 70's nuff said
August 20, 2007 3:30 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

"If I do dirt with my comrades and get caught , I am going to take the heat for it.  f*ck anybody that snitches on their comrades. If you do the crime and get caught handle it by yourself."

That's real spit. I know a few punk ass wannabe gangsta niggas that always packed heat. Talking mad shit. They got into it with a real nigga one night.. they shot at him (FIRST) and missed... he shot back at them and hit one of em in the leg...

Did you know that punk ass... was snitched to the cops about who shot him?????

Crazy!!


Cats wanna be gangstas.. until they catch it....

then they turn snitch....







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