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Rednecks For Obama

Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:39 PM | 108 comments
By The One

"We've had many Democratic presidents, and we will still have our guns"

-Tony Viessman


When AllHipHop was in Denver we quickly stumbled over a base of support for Senator Barak Obama during the Democratic National Convention.

Rednecks For Obama.


Unable to speak to them at the time, we quickly snapped a picture of these two gentlemen, but they left an impression on us. After a couple of weeks and a few seconds of searching, we realize these guys are the real deal.

 “We hunt, fish, drink beer and support Barack Obama,” Tony Viessman told the New York Times last month. The 74-year old former Hillary Clinton supporter hails from from Rolla, Mo and has attended several events supporting Obama.

Right now, the movement only consists of two members, Viessman and his friend Les. (seen in the picture below). The pair have adopted the motto "“We Hunt, Fish, Drink Beer and Support Barack Obama.”



obamarednecks.jpg

Viessman admits most of his hunting/fishing/drinking peers are not Obama supporters (there are some though), but that hasn’t prevented him from supporting the Democratic presidential candidate.

“Rednecks for Obama” formally announced its presence outside the Pepsi Center during the Democratic National Convention coupled wth a hug banner that cause a lot of chatter and questions.

Viessman owns 10 guns, hunts fishes and loves to drink beer, much of which is contrary to Obama’s ideals. Nevertheless, the Rednecks for Obama can see past these differences.

“I don’t care about his beer, I care about his intelligence,” he said.

Although their formal ranks are low, Obama appears to have an understated appeal in rural areas. One reader said, “Here in rural Appalachia, I see Obama stickers on pickup trucks and Obama yard signs on back country roads every single day.”
The last word goes to Tony Viessman.

"He is brilliant.  And he's not an elitist, though he has the education to be"


If you are a redneck (or not) and want a free bumper sticker to express your support, click here. (AllHipHop does not support or endorse the claims of Rednecks-4-Obama.com)






"Rednecks for Obama” (Photo: Jae C. Hong/Associated Press)

 "Rednecks for Obama" by MMMMichelle.

WHOEVER YOU SUPPORT, CLICK HERE TO REGISTER TO VOTE!

Comments

 

Hustlinupnorth said:

Hahaha!!!! These guys are the shit! Rednecks For Obama!!!!
September 13, 2008 2:53 PM
 

Doobie Ashtrayz said:

ignorance is unacceptable...  any race, any class, any place
September 13, 2008 2:57 PM
 

Bill_Blass74! said:

Don't trust em!
September 13, 2008 2:58 PM
 

Queens4LIFE said:

lmao i never thought that would happen
these guys know whas up!
September 13, 2008 3:00 PM
 

mr_rasta_man said:

this may not be a huge movement but it symbolizes progress and change (for the better). vote obama 08!!!
September 13, 2008 3:01 PM
 

LAonMyFitted985 said:

That's whats up
September 13, 2008 3:02 PM
 

Queens4LIFE said:

lol who knows maybe over the next few month thousands of rednecks will join rednecks4obama n support obama
September 13, 2008 3:04 PM
 

Moses Was Black said:

i WONDER IF I WOULD HAVE HELD UP A "BLACKS FOR OBAMA WOULD AHH TOKE MY PIC"

we can use the extra pep for our Democrats right now, due to this curve ball Palin, .............hell who's running for president McCain or Palin
September 13, 2008 3:05 PM
 

Professor X said:

say what????? something aint stirring the kool-aid.....to be continued...





THE IC IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 13, 2008 3:22 PM
 

MAINE MAN said:

MAINE MAN said:
SHOUTS OUT TO THE WU!!!!

@AHH......IM ABOUT TO GET OFF THE SUBJECT.....I HAVE TO

RELEASE THIS ANGER I HAVE WITH OUR PEOPLE......

TO WHOM THIS MAY CONCERN: WHY ARENT WE AS BLACK

PEOPLE VOTING? IN THE U.S WE HAVE OVER 8 MILLION

ELIGIBLE UNREGISTERED VOTERS. THIS MORNING  I GOT INTO

A BIG ARGUMENT WITH ONE OF MY NIGGAS  BECAUSE HE SAYS

HE, "DOESNT WANT TO VOTE". THE REASON IS HE THINKS HIS  

VOTE WONT COUNT. I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THE IMPORTANCE

OF VOTING AND THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE THAT WAS MADE BY

OUR ANCESTORS TO HAVE THIS RIGHT. TOO MAKE A LONG

STORY SHORT I FINALLY CONVINCED HIM ALONG WITH 3 OTHER

STRANGERS TO VOTE....


MY POINT IS THIS BLACK PEOPLE; WE CAN GET UP HERE AND

COMMENT ABOUT WHATS GOING ON IN THE ENTERTAINMENT

WORLD, AND WHO SUCH AN SUCH IS, THIS PERSON IS WACK,

AND ALL THIS OTHER SHIT, BUT IN REALITY IT DOESNT MEAN A

DAMN THANG. IF WE CAN SPEND HOURS ON MYSPACE,

YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, AHH, SOHH, WORLDSTAR, ETC.

CAN GET OUR ASSES ONLINE AND REGISTER TO VOTE.. DO

SOMETHING THAT CAN BENEFIT ME, YOU, AND OUR KIDS

FUTURE. I PROMISE YOU IT DOESNT TAKE NO MORE THAN 5

MINUTES. IT SEEMS LIKE NIGGAS DONT CARE ABOUT THE

CIRCUMSTANCES THERE LIVING IN, BUT BE THE FIRST ONES TO

COMPLAIN ABOUT HIGH GAS PRICES AND HOW THEY CANT FIND

A FUCKING JOB. DO YOU REALIZE THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE

THAT OUR FUTURE PRESIDENT MIGHT BE BLACK? DO YOU KNOW

THAT OUR ANCESTORS COULDNT FATHOM A BLACK MAN

BEING IN OFFICE? AHH OUR TIME IS NOW!!!I WAS LISTENING

TO THE STEVE HARVEY SHOW THE OTHER DAY WHILE DRIVING

TO WORK, AND THEY WAS TALKING BOUT, WHY BLACK PEOPLE

DONT VOTE. THIS CALLER CALLED AND  SAID BECAUSE HE

DONT WANT TO DO JURY DUTY....WHAT TYPE OF SHIT IS

THAT. NIGGAS KILL ME HOW IGNORANT AND STUPID THEY CAN

BE.

BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOUR ELIGIBLE TO VOTE AND YOU

DONT ...FUCK YOU AND FUCK WHAT YOU STAND FOR.... YOUR

WORST THAN THE FUCKING SLAVE MASTER, WILLIE LYNCH,

GANGBANGERS, BUSH, THE DEVIL, REGAN, COINTELPRO

AND THESE COPS WHO WHOOP OUR PEOPLES ASS FOR NO

REASON. YALL NIGGAS MAKE ME FUCKING SICK....I WILL SPIT

ON YALL FAGGOTS....FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!





THIS SHIT WILL BE POSTED IN EVERY BIG STORY AHH HAS. AND IF YOU BITCH AND COMPLAIN ABOUT ME TRYING TO PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO OTHERS THEN FUCK YOU TOO. TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR...AND ASK YOURSELF WTF YOU DOING TO SUPPORT THE CAUSE?
September 10, 2008 4:17 PM
September 13, 2008 3:36 PM
 

FLOWVERINE said:

FUCK OBAMA!!!! U APPLE PIE LOST,BRAINWASHED IM AN AFRO AMERICAN! PROGRAMMED MUTHAFUCKAS IS STUPID! THIS MUTHAFUCKAH RELATED TO BUSH AND CHENEY!AND THE CFR SUPPORTS HIM! U MUTHAFUCKAHS BETTER WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE BEANS! AND FUCK MCCAIN! FUCK THE DEVILMENT!
September 13, 2008 3:42 PM
 

T-ROC said:

"He is brilliant.  And he's not an elitist, though he has the education to be"

Since, when being educated counts as being elite? Go Figure.

But, you know what. The word "REDNECK" has always been synonomous with racism. To have any reformed redneck supporting OBAMA is a CHANGE. *SMILE*
September 13, 2008 3:50 PM
 

dazed06 said:

Wow! I dont know what to say! I guess they will change thier minds once he start taking their rights away.
September 13, 2008 3:54 PM
 

tha clear said:

" I am Clayton Bigsby and I support this message"
September 13, 2008 3:56 PM
 

FLOWVERINE said:

MAINE MAN U A TRAINED NEGRO[AFRO-AMERICAN] HUH? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! MUTHAFUCKAH STOP TRYNNA BLEND IN AMERIKKKA! LETS SPEAK THE REAL HERE....THEM DUMB ASS NOOKAS THAT SACRAFICE FO SO CALLED VOTING AND RIGHTS! THEY WAS THE MOST STUPIDIEST MUTHAFUCKAHS KNOWN TO EARTH! THEY NEVER SHOULD OF DONE IT! IN THE FIRST PLACE AND MAYBE WE WOULDNT B IN THIS SHIT NOW HUH THAT GOES FO ANY BLACK OR NON WHITE MUTHAFUCKAHS TOO LOOK!BLK PEOPLE AND SO CALLED AFRO AMERICANS! HOW CAN A BLK MAN B A COP OR A POLITICIAN OR IN THE SATANS ARMY OR A FUCKIN FREEMASON OR EVEN IN A FRAT WTF? OR A CHRISTIAN??? WHY WHY WHY ITS THE DUMBEST SHIT IVE EVER WITNESS! THIS AINT YO LAND THAT AINT YO MONEY!FAR IM CONCERNED ALL THAT BLK  AND NON WHITES MUTHAFUCKAHS {WASTED} THEY LIVES FO AMERICAN BULLSHIT! NOW LOOK AT IT! U ARE NOT AN AMERICAN U R A FEDERAL BANKIAN! A SLAVE FOR HALLIBURTON!I WOULDNT B SURPRISED ALL U AFRO AMERICAN JOKES GET THE CHIP! U DUMB FUCKS! SO FUCK U MAINE MAN WHEN SHIT POPS OFF WHO SIDE U GONE B ON????U A DISGRACE MUTHAFUCKAH AND ANYBODY ELSE OFFENDED BY THIS TOO! I RATHER B CALLED A NIGGA THEN A AFRO AMERICAN ANY MUTHAFUCKIN DAY!
September 13, 2008 3:57 PM
 

FSJUNKIE said:

Strong statement my people. Actions (in the voting booth) will speak louder than words still, but it's a start. I like it. One step at a time I suppose. Gotta off that rebel flag though; i didn't watch the video, that may just be AHH throwing that up for a response for all that I know. Some caucasians embrace the term "redneck", but ignore the racist overtones or negative stereotypes. I look at this as myself saying "I'm proud to be a 'real' brother"...as long as you don't take that for me being the personification of all negative sterotypes about black folks or call me a "nigger". People can't just reprogram overnight EVERYTHING that has been ingrained in them for generations though. They still felt the need to say it like that..."even though I support Obama, I'm not a 'wigger'." It's still a start for them.

I'm about to finish 20 years in the military here shortly and I know what this means. After you've served with people from all walks of life and are able to function as a fighting unit based on just some basic principles, you learn how to tolerate people's differences. You learn to live and let live. Of course, there comes times when you have to go your way and I have to go mine, but for this cause right here we gotta get our backs together and fight some common enemies.

Vote if you can my people. This may be the ONE and maybe ONLY one time that it will count or matter. I'm planning to make history. I don't know about y'all!
September 13, 2008 3:58 PM
 

Cmacjb said:

Thats was sup as long as they vote on Nov thats all the matters. We need as many people as we can to vote cuz with Palin supporters growing we need all the help we can get.

Vote Obama 08!!!!!!
September 13, 2008 4:02 PM
 

MACCAPONE said:

NOW YOU KNOW THAT REPUBLICANS IS BADD FOR THE WHITE HOUSE IF YOU GOT REDKNECCS VOTING FOR OBAMA WOW CUZZ GOOD LOOK IN DENVER NINERS FOR LIFE.......
September 13, 2008 4:29 PM
 

MAINE MAN said:

@flowverine...lol....your so lost in your little militant mind. My whole purpose was to spread something positive on the message boards and to get young black men to vote. Your not even worth me posting up a negative comment about you saying how ignorant you are because you just did it for me.


Your dismissed nigga!!!
September 13, 2008 4:52 PM
 

tippydickumdown said:

..and the hits keep coming..they say ignorance is bliss,but that's only to the ignorant person,for the rest of us it's irritating.
September 13, 2008 4:55 PM
 

MAINE MAN said:

cosign---tippydickumdown
September 13, 2008 4:58 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

@    FLOWVERINE said:
MAINE MAN U A TRAINED NEGRO[AFRO-AMERICAN] HUH? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! MUTHAFUCKAH STOP TRYNNA BLEND IN AMERIKKKA! LETS SPEAK THE REAL HERE....THEM DUMB ASS NOOKAS THAT SACRAFICE FO SO CALLED VOTING AND RIGHTS! THEY WAS THE MOST STUPIDIEST MUTHAFUCKAHS KNOWN TO EARTH! THEY NEVER SHOULD OF DONE IT! IN THE FIRST PLACE AND MAYBE WE WOULDNT B IN THIS SHIT NOW HUH THAT GOES FO ANY BLACK OR NON WHITE MUTHAFUCKAHS TOO LOOK!BLK PEOPLE AND SO CALLED AFRO AMERICANS! HOW CAN A BLK MAN B A COP OR A POLITICIAN OR IN THE SATANS ARMY OR A FUCKIN FREEMASON OR EVEN IN A FRAT WTF? OR A CHRISTIAN??? WHY WHY WHY ITS THE DUMBEST SHIT IVE EVER WITNESS! THIS AINT YO LAND THAT AINT YO MONEY!FAR IM CONCERNED ALL THAT BLK  AND NON WHITES MUTHAFUCKAHS {WASTED} THEY LIVES FO AMERICAN BULLSHIT! NOW LOOK AT IT! U ARE NOT AN AMERICAN U R A FEDERAL BANKIAN! A SLAVE FOR HALLIBURTON!I WOULDNT B SURPRISED ALL U AFRO AMERICAN JOKES GET THE CHIP! U DUMB FUCKS! SO FUCK U MAINE MAN WHEN SHIT POPS OFF WHO SIDE U GONE B ON????U A DISGRACE MUTHAFUCKAH AND ANYBODY ELSE OFFENDED BY THIS TOO! I RATHER B CALLED A NIGGA THEN A AFRO AMERICAN ANY MUTHAFUCKIN DAY!
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DUMB NIGGA SHUT YO ASS UP! IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT U AROUND THEN YOU HAVE 2 EASY OPTIONS:

1. GO TO AN ISLAND AND LIVE BY YOUR OWN RULES.
2. KILL YO FUCKIN SELF!

ALL THAT SHIT YOU TALKING ABOUT THE WHITE MAN THIS THE WHITE MAN THAT YOU DUMB NIGGA IS SPEAKING FOR THE WHITE MAN WITH THE SHIT U TALKING. AND SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THAT OBAMA RELATED BULLSHIT. YOU WASN'T SAYING THAT SHIT TIL U SAW THAT SHIT ON TV BY THAT COMPANY IN GERMANY I THINK. NIGGA HE ALSO RELATED TO BRAD PITT SO WHAT THAT MEAN HE'S GOING TO GIVE ALL ACTORS FREE TAXES??? NIGGA SHUT UP. YO ASS RELATED TO THE SLAVE MASTER HIMSELF DUMBASS, WHAT U DON'T THINK YOU HAVE WHITE BLOOD IN YOU? NIGGA RESPOND IF U LIKE BUT NIGGA SHUT THE FUCK UP AND WHO THE FUCK USES "AFRO AMERICAN" WHAT THAT'S SOME DAMN SUPER HERO OR COMIC BOOK SHIT? NIGGA EAT MCCAIN DICK AND DIE BITCH.


OBAMA/BIDEN 08
September 13, 2008 5:01 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

REALLY THE MOVEMENT IS BIGGER THEN JUST THEM TWO. WHAT I MEAN IS, IT'S A LOT OF BACK ROAD REDNECKS VOTING FOR HIM. I'M IN DELAWARE AND WHEN I DRIVE IN SOME OF THE BACK ROADS U SEE OBAMA SIGNS ALL DAY. AND IN JERSEY ALSO, THEY NOT STUPID THEY HAVE TO RESPECT THE MAN'S INTELLECT.
September 13, 2008 5:04 PM
 

Zulu_boi said:

y r u african americanz so damn paranoid & naive
i think it waz sam cooke, who ced inna song - "change gonna come"
hav complete faith in obama, he WILL change da world!
itz karma afta all - paybak 4 slavery!!
September 13, 2008 5:09 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

WHITE FOLKS AIN'T STUPID White folk wanted to make the USA a great country.
What did they do?

They went to Africa and enslaved Blacks to turn the
country into an agricultural powerhouse.White folk wanted to make Washington D.C. A great city.

What did they do? They used a Black to design the
city and Black labor to build it.White folk wanted to explore the western USA .

What did they do?

Lewis and Clark took a Black slave with them to
negotiate with the IndiansWhite folk wanted to end the Civil War.What did they do?They freed the slaves who helped win the war.White folk wanted to take San Juan Hill .

What did they do?

Teddy rushed up the hill, got in trouble, and was
rescued by Blacks who took the hill.White folk wanted to take the middle and western USA
from the Indians.

What did they do?

They sent the Buffalo soldiers to protect the
settlers and to fight the Indians.White folk wanted to raise cattle in the mid west.What did they do? They hired cowboys to do it (Yes, most cowboy's were Black.)

White folk wanted to explore the North Pole.

What did they do?

Adm. Perry took a Black guide along to get him
there. The guide reached the pole before Perry.White folk wanted to make the USA armed forces better.

What did they do?
Truman integrated the military.White folk wanted to improve college and pro sports
and make more money doing so.

What did they do?

They integrated sports and built larger stadiums and
arenas and tougher golf courses. Now, White folk want a new president to straighten out the Bush mess. WHAT WILL THEY DO, BASED ON HISTORY????

WHITE FOLKS AIN'T STUPID ..
September 13, 2008 5:20 PM
 

Zulu_boi said:

TROOPER47, my brotha ur just 2 militant - take da advice of dead prez & just RELAX.....
if south africa still lived in da past (which i am evidence of due 2 my mixed ancestry), we would b absolutely NO WHERE now!!
4 real man...im just az militant az u - but within reason, id ratha shake a manz hand den break it!!!
one.
September 13, 2008 5:26 PM
 

Doobie Ashtrayz said:

@TROOPER

so your saying, basically white people used black people to accomplish everything?

September 13, 2008 5:29 PM
 

The Mexican said:

@ Flowverine
Why don't you get the fuck out then.
September 13, 2008 5:44 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

@ Zulu_boi

WHAT DID I SAY THAT WAS MILITANT???? I RESPONDED TO SOMEONE THAT WAS TRYING TO BE MILITANT. BUT WHAT DID I SAY THAT WAS MILITANT?

@ Doobie Ashtrayz said:
@TROOPER

so your saying, basically white people used black people to accomplish everything?
--------------------------
DID I USE THE WORD "EVERYTHING"? READ WHAT I PUT ON THE BOARD AND COMMENT ON THAT AND NOT WHAT U TRYING TO MAKE IT OUT TO BE. BUT I WILL SAY THIS MUCH. DO  YOUR RESEARCH AND LOOK UP EVERY MAJOR THING THAT WE USE DAY TO DAY AND IF IT WAS FOR A BLACK MAN OR WOMAN YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE IT. SHIT EDISON KEPT GETTING THE LIGHT BULB WRONG BUT IT WAS A BLACK ASSISTANT THAT FIGURED IT OUT AND EDISON HAVE THE CREDIT. SO COMMENT ON WHAT I SAID NOT WHAT U TRYING TO CREATE. AGAIN, DID U SEE ME USE THE WORD "EVERYTHING".

September 13, 2008 5:44 PM
 

shortnsimple said:

lets please to talking down to each other fuckin up my whole saturday n shit. @flowverine you outta pocket with that shit. take that shit somewhere else.
September 13, 2008 5:48 PM
 

J-DUBB THA YOUNG HECTIC said:

this will be my third time voting YES THIRD

get off yo ass and vote for OBAMA
September 13, 2008 5:57 PM
 

big1on said:

"Proceed Sir"
September 13, 2008 6:02 PM
 

city414 said:

so to all the people who say fuck mcain and obama are you voting for the blk woman cythia mckinney(green party) or ralph pain in the ass nader(independent)
September 13, 2008 6:08 PM
 

theillseed said:

a rednecks vote counts like anybody else's. hey, these dudes dont seem stupid. in fact, they are more politically engaged than most of the people i know. shout out to barack obama. 08. we got this.
September 13, 2008 6:09 PM
 

FSJUNKIE said:

TROOPER74 said:
@ Zulu_boi

WHAT DID I SAY THAT WAS MILITANT???? I RESPONDED TO SOMEONE THAT WAS TRYING TO BE MILITANT. BUT WHAT DID I SAY THAT WAS MILITANT?

@ Doobie Ashtrayz said:
@TROOPER

so your saying, basically white people used black people to accomplish everything?
--------------------------
DID I USE THE WORD "EVERYTHING"? READ WHAT I PUT ON THE BOARD AND COMMENT ON THAT AND NOT WHAT U TRYING TO MAKE IT OUT TO BE. BUT I WILL SAY THIS MUCH. DO  YOUR RESEARCH AND LOOK UP EVERY MAJOR THING THAT WE USE DAY TO DAY AND IF IT WAS FOR A BLACK MAN OR WOMAN YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE IT. SHIT EDISON KEPT GETTING THE LIGHT BULB WRONG BUT IT WAS A BLACK ASSISTANT THAT FIGURED IT OUT AND EDISON HAVE THE CREDIT. SO COMMENT ON WHAT I SAID NOT WHAT U TRYING TO CREATE. AGAIN, DID U SEE ME USE THE WORD "EVERYTHING".
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@Trooper74

I think what Doobie Ashtrayz was trying to convey is that Black Pride is real and necessary, but that there is a better way to teach the lessons. The mark of a great leader is not only getting people to follow, but getting them to WANT to follow. That's what's real about Obama. You can't put your finger on it. The "rednecks" may not know WHY they want to follow necessarily, but they are smart enough to recognize great leadership when they see it. That's what we need as a people, more great leaders and less great public figures.
September 13, 2008 6:13 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

@ FSJUNKIE

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I TELL PPL ALL THE TIME. THAT IN THIS DAY AND AGE THE INTELLIGENT NON-BLACK IS NOT LOOKING AT COLOR THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOPE AND CHANGE AND THAT DON'T HAVE NO COLOR. PPL ALWAYS TRY TO SAY WE AS BLACKS ARE VOTING BECAUSE HE'S BLACK LIKE WE DON'T SEE THE VALUE IN HIM MEANING OBAMA. THE LAST 8 YEARS BEEN HELL FOR PPL BUT I BET THOSE SAME ONE'S NEVER QUESTION A WHITE ON WHY THEY'RE VOTING FOR THEIR PERSON. BUT WHAT U SAID WAS RIGHT BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PERSON WAS GETTING AT BELIEVE ME.
September 13, 2008 6:25 PM
 

FSJUNKIE said:

TROOPER74 said:
@ FSJUNKIE

WHAT U SAID WAS RIGHT BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PERSON WAS GETTING AT BELIEVE ME.
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@ TROOPER74

What I said was for them to read as well...there's a better way of saying (and thinking about) many things. I understand the frustrations (trust me). I'm usually one of few in my circles and I have to represent...but I also had to learn how to be listened to instead of just being heard.

Don't forget how to fight, just perfect as many styles as you can learn so you can kill 'em softly too.
September 13, 2008 6:39 PM
 

lamarrion said:

No bitchassness
Obama 08

September 13, 2008 6:44 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

AYE TAKE DOWN THE CONFEDERATE FLAG HOMES.

NO BULLSHIT TAKE THAT DOWN.

YOU DON SEE NO CONFEDERATE FLAGS AROUND YO 'REDNECKS'

SO WHY YOU WANT TO PROMOTE THAT???

CUZ THEY COUNTRY DONT MAKE THEM CONFEDERATES.


TAKE THAT SHIT DOWN I DON WANT SEE IT.
September 13, 2008 7:02 PM
 

Doobies Ashtray said:

@trooper

please dont take my disagreement with your statement as me being a racsist, and if you do please explain why you feel that way.  white man has not been good to the black man historically and there is no disputing that.  that is not my arguement.  

i agree with the first half of your post but you start to sound silly towards the end. white people did not integrate sports to make more money. they integrated because of the pressure society was putting on them to integrate.  and integrating sports was a great thing. why are you trying to turn it into a "the white man just wanted money" thing?  

and from one obama voter to another, i dont expect obama to save us as a country.i think it is a step in the right direction, but i honestly dont think him or mccain is really going to make that much of a difference negatively or positively.

no one is arguing if slave days were right or wrong but if you look over the last 35 years i think there is a strong path of improvement going on and it is continuing today! nobody needs to equate the white man taking credit for ice cream with obama being nominated..

celebrate it
September 13, 2008 7:22 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@MAINE MAN said:
MAINE MAN said:
SHOUTS OUT TO THE WU!!!!

@AHH......IM ABOUT TO GET OFF THE SUBJECT.....I HAVE TO

RELEASE THIS ANGER I HAVE WITH OUR PEOPLE......

TO WHOM THIS MAY CONCERN: WHY ARENT WE AS BLACK

PEOPLE VOTING? IN THE U.S WE HAVE OVER 8 MILLION

ELIGIBLE UNREGISTERED VOTERS. THIS MORNING  I GOT INTO

A BIG ARGUMENT WITH ONE OF MY NIGGAS  BECAUSE HE SAYS

HE, "DOESNT WANT TO VOTE". THE REASON IS HE THINKS HIS  

VOTE WONT COUNT. I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THE IMPORTANCE

OF VOTING AND THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE THAT WAS MADE BY

OUR ANCESTORS TO HAVE THIS RIGHT. TOO MAKE A LONG

STORY SHORT I FINALLY CONVINCED HIM ALONG WITH 3 OTHER

STRANGERS TO VOTE....


MY POINT IS THIS BLACK PEOPLE; WE CAN GET UP HERE AND

COMMENT ABOUT WHATS GOING ON IN THE ENTERTAINMENT

WORLD, AND WHO SUCH AN SUCH IS, THIS PERSON IS WACK,

AND ALL THIS OTHER SHIT, BUT IN REALITY IT DOESNT MEAN A

DAMN THANG. IF WE CAN SPEND HOURS ON MYSPACE,

YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, AHH, SOHH, WORLDSTAR, ETC.

CAN GET OUR ASSES ONLINE AND REGISTER TO VOTE.. DO

SOMETHING THAT CAN BENEFIT ME, YOU, AND OUR KIDS

FUTURE. I PROMISE YOU IT DOESNT TAKE NO MORE THAN 5

MINUTES. IT SEEMS LIKE NIGGAS DONT CARE ABOUT THE

CIRCUMSTANCES THERE LIVING IN, BUT BE THE FIRST ONES TO

COMPLAIN ABOUT HIGH GAS PRICES AND HOW THEY CANT FIND

A FUCKING JOB. DO YOU REALIZE THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE

THAT OUR FUTURE PRESIDENT MIGHT BE BLACK? DO YOU KNOW

THAT OUR ANCESTORS COULDNT FATHOM A BLACK MAN

BEING IN OFFICE? AHH OUR TIME IS NOW!!!I WAS LISTENING

TO THE STEVE HARVEY SHOW THE OTHER DAY WHILE DRIVING

TO WORK, AND THEY WAS TALKING BOUT, WHY BLACK PEOPLE

DONT VOTE. THIS CALLER CALLED AND  SAID BECAUSE HE

DONT WANT TO DO JURY DUTY....WHAT TYPE OF SHIT IS

THAT. NIGGAS KILL ME HOW IGNORANT AND STUPID THEY CAN

BE.

BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOUR ELIGIBLE TO VOTE AND YOU

DONT ...FUCK YOU AND FUCK WHAT YOU STAND FOR.... YOUR

WORST THAN THE FUCKING SLAVE MASTER, WILLIE LYNCH,

GANGBANGERS, BUSH, THE DEVIL, REGAN, COINTELPRO

AND THESE COPS WHO WHOOP OUR PEOPLES ASS FOR NO

REASON. YALL NIGGAS MAKE ME FUCKING SICK....I WILL SPIT

ON YALL FAGGOTS....FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!





THIS SHIT WILL BE POSTED IN EVERY BIG STORY AHH HAS. AND IF YOU BITCH AND COMPLAIN ABOUT ME TRYING TO PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO OTHERS THEN FUCK YOU TOO. TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR...AND ASK YOURSELF WTF YOU DOING TO SUPPORT THE CAUSE?
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You said it well. Props! Repeat this shit as often as you'd like. It won't bother me one bit.
Definitely the main man and sane man.
Walk Tall brother!
September 13, 2008 8:02 PM
 

Rednecks For Obama - YBP - Young Black Politics said:

September 13, 2008 8:05 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@Illseed.
Great story.  You always make me proud. Did you know that? lol

And thank you so much for the VOTING link.

@ FLOWVERINE
Needs are achieved in 2 ways.
1. By the Ballot
2. are by the bullet

Which do you prefer? The bullet? Well let me ask you. How large is your army? How willing are you to compromise? Do you realize if you exercise your right to vote and get involved in the process, your battles may not be as hard fought as you think? Those people who you beat down and put down who died. They are our people. Namely, for me, Herbert Lee.
Check out this link.

http://www.tolerance.org/memorial/

Go to 1961
Sept 25th.
Read his story.  And encourage others to do so also. Because he and so many people like him lost their lives for us to have this right. Reading your comment made me cry. Because I know he felt like he was making a sacrifice for a chance at a better life for those of us who were coming behind him.  He was a voter registration worker. That cost him not only his life. But 1 witness who could've told how he was killed.

Herbert Lee was my Great-grandfather's brother. He is the reason I vote.
September 13, 2008 8:23 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@FSJUNKIE said:
Strong statement my people. Actions (in the voting booth) will speak louder than words still, but it's a start. I like it. One step at a time I suppose. Gotta off that rebel flag though; i didn't watch the video, that may just be AHH throwing that up for a response for all that I know. Some caucasians embrace the term "redneck", but ignore the racist overtones or negative stereotypes. I look at this as myself saying "I'm proud to be a 'real' brother"...as long as you don't take that for me being the personification of all negative sterotypes about black folks or call me a "nigger". People can't just reprogram overnight EVERYTHING that has been ingrained in them for generations though. They still felt the need to say it like that..."even though I support Obama, I'm not a 'wigger'." It's still a start for them.

I'm about to finish 20 years in the military here shortly and I know what this means. After you've served with people from all walks of life and are able to function as a fighting unit based on just some basic principles, you learn how to tolerate people's differences. You learn to live and let live. Of course, there comes times when you have to go your way and I have to go mine, but for this cause right here we gotta get our backs together and fight some common enemies.

Vote if you can my people. This may be the ONE and maybe ONLY one time that it will count or matter. I'm planning to make history. I don't know about y'all!
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Cosign. And I'm with you.
September 13, 2008 8:25 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@TROOPER74 said:
REALLY THE MOVEMENT IS BIGGER THEN JUST THEM TWO. WHAT I MEAN IS, IT'S A LOT OF BACK ROAD REDNECKS VOTING FOR HIM. I'M IN DELAWARE AND WHEN I DRIVE IN SOME OF THE BACK ROADS U SEE OBAMA SIGNS ALL DAY. AND IN JERSEY ALSO, THEY NOT STUPID THEY HAVE TO RESPECT THE MAN'S INTELLECT.
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I know you're right. The back roads in Mississippi, Louisiana and Alabama too.
Not being able to provide for your family brings it down to brass tacks don't it. Folks want to know they can feed their family's and provide. It comes down to green. It usually does.

@Doobie Ashtrayz said:
@TROOPER

so your saying, basically white people used black people to accomplish everything?
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There is a difference between White folks and bigots. We did have some help getting this right to vote. Rights period. Do you think Slavery would've been abolished without many geniune white people? The marches for civil rights? The real history left for us to see it and know about the bady things that happened. Talk to the elders in your family. Or better yet, listen to them. They can save us so much hardtimes. They've been there. Like real fucking struggle. Things we can't even imagine.
There are good and bad people in all races. We can't become racist ourselves. Because then we become the monster's our oppressors are. I'd rather not anyway.
September 13, 2008 8:35 PM
 

BigKev in Harlem said:

if they pull the ballot for him, I'll drink some  Old English with them. Shit, I got homies in the hood that WONT vote. Fuckouttahere!
September 13, 2008 8:56 PM
 

Nex Gin said:

@ Flowverine
Ignorance is a 2 sided coin w/ heads on both sides.  Now that you've wasted time rattlin' off the obvious inner workings of our government, what is your plan to fix it? Waiting for the obligatory e-thug reply........
September 13, 2008 9:07 PM
 

FSJUNKIE said:

FSJUNKIE said:
Vote if you can my people. This may be the ONE and maybe ONLY one time that it will count or matter.

LTBROWN said:
Cosign. And I'm with you.

Check out this link.

http://www.tolerance.org/memorial/

Go to 1961
Sept 25th.
Read his story.  

Herbert Lee was my Great-grandfather's brother. He is the reason I vote.
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Damn good reason. I gotta eat my words a little bit...our votes count and matter all the time (black or white), not just when your candidate is a favorite to win. People died  (black AND white) fighting for us to have that right...fighting to get the country to realize its potential (remember "I have a dream...").

Y'all need to take a minute to reflect on that link. For real. I think we forget some time. If you ain't a part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
September 13, 2008 9:17 PM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

I SAPORT OBOMA, I RECKON.  GET'EM N D WHITE HAUSE!!!

Peace and MO HER GREASE,

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September 13, 2008 10:09 PM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

@AHH

Shame on this banner ad below me.  It says, "Who's more likely to cheat: Obama or McCain?"  When they mean cheat, they mean who is more likely to cheat on their wives.  Well, didn't McCain cheat on his first wife.

Peace and more hair grease,

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September 13, 2008 10:12 PM
 

drewhood said:

TWO STEPS:
1.REGISTER TO VOTE BEFORE OCTOBER 4TH
2.VOTE, IF EVERYBODY WHO IS A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT VOTE OBAMA WE WILL WIN THIS ELECTION AND CHANGE THE WORLD. EARLY VOTING STARTS OCTOBER 20TH. PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 13, 2008 11:34 PM
 

REDNECKS FOR OBAMA « Illseed Blog said:

September 13, 2008 11:34 PM
 

Illmatic T said:

GO REDNECKS, OBAMA 08
September 13, 2008 11:44 PM
 

KarEeMdaDreAm said:

lmfao @ Flowverine.....wow, just wow....black panthers are dead man, new age...vote for obama, unless you want to get stuck with mccain and that dumb ho that doesnt know shit
September 14, 2008 12:23 AM
 

ColombianKingEscobar said:

TROOPER47
WHITE FOLKS AIN'T STUPID White folk wanted to make the USA a great country.
What did they do?

They went to Africa and enslaved Blacks to turn the
country into an agricultural powerhouse.White folk wanted to make Washington D.C. A great city.

What did they do? They used a Black to design the
city and Black labor to build it.White folk wanted to explore the western USA .

What did they do?

Lewis and Clark took a Black slave with them to
negotiate with the IndiansWhite folk wanted to end the Civil War.What did they do?They freed the slaves who helped win the war.White folk wanted to take San Juan Hill .

What did they do?

Teddy rushed up the hill, got in trouble, and was
rescued by Blacks who took the hill.White folk wanted to take the middle and western USA
from the Indians.

What did they do?

They sent the Buffalo soldiers to protect the
settlers and to fight the Indians.White folk wanted to raise cattle in the mid west.What did they do? They hired cowboys to do it (Yes, most cowboy's were Black.)

White folk wanted to explore the North Pole.

What did they do?

Adm. Perry took a Black guide along to get him
there. The guide reached the pole before Perry.White folk wanted to make the USA armed forces better.

What did they do?
Truman integrated the military.White folk wanted to improve college and pro sports
and make more money doing so.

What did they do?

They integrated sports and built larger stadiums and
arenas and tougher golf courses. Now, White folk want a new president to straighten out the Bush mess. WHAT WILL THEY DO, BASED ON HISTORY????

WHITE FOLKS AIN'T STUPID ..
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wow, u fuckin dumb as fuck...i can see ur one of the biggest fuckin retards on this mufukin site, r u fuckin serious wit that shit? ur sayin that black folks have made contributions to everything that is used today and dat has a major impact in people's life....ok, so wat da fuck does that gotta do wit u? u actlin like since they black all of the fuckin sudden that means its YOU, ur a fuckin retard speak for urself not for ur fuckin race, dont vote for obama cus ur fuckin ancestors are black, u act like he's fuckin family, dawg, obama's daddy is fuckin arab, wat da fuck does that mean? dat means if u consider urself an african american, dis got nuttin to do wit u, if u consider urself an arab, it speaks the same fuckin thing

so wat if he's fuckin black, wat difference will that make? dat he will help the "hood" out? why? wat da fuck does the HOOD deserve more than any other fuckin place? there is way worst places in america than ur fuckin hood, go to an indian reservation and compare that living, its not the fuckin same.

and since he's black he's gonna help out blacks too right? why da fuck would a human do that? to leave the rest of the races alone and just help out his own, in such a fuckin selfish way?

oh im black, fuck white people, theyve had white presidents for long fuckin enough....SOOOO??? muthafukas act like since there is a black president everythin is going to change...NAW, if u been livin under poor conditions, dont blame the fuckin bush administration, blame ur fuckin own dumbass, its all bullshit

and wat da fuck did bush ever do to u anyways? why does everyone hate bush? wat da fuck did he ever do except serve his own fuckin country as good as anyone could?? wat da fuck would obama do if he have had 911? run back to hawaii and get bitch out...he wouldnt do shit, he wouldnt have gone to war in the middle east...he wants troops back to please the people, but why do the people even fuckin care?

Bush is a scapegoat, bush never did shit wrong, and people cant prove anything on him, he raised the economy that was goin down while clinton was in power
the reason why economy is going down NOW, is because people dont TRUST one another, so they take their stocks out and the shit falls down, and who is to blame? bush, wen he never did shit wrong but appear at the wrong place at the wrong time, like nobody ever did

didnt yalll use to love bush's nuts after 9-11 anyways?? wat happened to that?
September 14, 2008 12:39 AM
 

b-girl said:

Word! Love anyone that supports the movement!
September 14, 2008 1:28 AM
 

Darnell004 said:

A little surprising....but lets see how many white people will actually vote for Obama rather than just say it on the news and to their friends face.
Obama 08
September 14, 2008 1:41 AM
 

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September 14, 2008 1:46 AM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

Do I always have to go off on you blogtastic haters?

First off, I GOT A SERIOUS QUESTION TO AAAALL YOU MOTHAFUCKAZ HATIN' ON OBAMA...How the FUCK would YOU change this country????  What the fuck could YOU do better than Obama?  Exactly, sit your ass down and shut up, trash talkin' morons...I like to call y'all mothafuckaz "dumberikkkans".  You're not a good look...

Who said Obama's gonna take our fuckin' rights?  Whoever said that shit is flat out lying.  You actin' like Republicans aren't the ones who take more rights away than any independent or major party that has ever existed.  It's on their track record and it goes back for a looonngggggg time.  The proof makes you suckaz look stupid, so stick to the facts and stop bashin' this man.

There's nothin' wrong with the "Rednecks for Obama" support!  It's great!  You should be glad that they're embracing this intelligent black man instead of slamming him just because of his skin color!  I don't care if they call themselves Rednecks, hell we call ourselves NIGGAZ!!!  Now what?!! Yeah that's what the fuck I thought.

Look, Barack Obama is the best thing that has happened to Amerikkka in my entire lifetime.  You might sit here and say "why you say that Killuminati?  Because he's BLACK?"  That's only ONE reason out of about 10 to be specific, because if Obama were full fledged white, us as blacks would not get the same feeling of relief and feeling of the CHANGE he's talkin' about and the Change he's already made to politics without even gettin' elected yet!  Why?  Because THERE'S NEVER BEEN A BLACK MAN AS PRESIDENT and that's not right!!  It's "In Your Face" deliberate prejudice from the Government! Duh!!  Time to CHANGE that!

So Obama haters, you go ahead and vote for McCrackCocaine and Sarah Fakin', I'm tryin' to tell you it doesn't matter, Obama has been selected in secrecy to be our President already, way back before the primaries even began, why do you think they tried to make us think the POLLS were so close between him and Hillary?  It's all a game.  Hillary and Obama neck and neck?  damn near everytime?! lmfaooo Yeah right.  You know for a fact the majority of the people voted for Hillary because the majority of people in Amerikkka are white!  It's more of a white vs. black thing than it is a man vs. woman thing! That's not a prejudice comment or assumption, it's the got damn truth people!  Like DJ Khaled says..."LLLLISSTEEENN!!!!"

Come on, say it with me, "Prrreessiiddeennttt OOOOObbbaammmmaaaa" because like Ice Cube said, get used to it.  Obama's on fire, Throw the water on 'em.
September 14, 2008 2:45 AM
 

KOSGOD said:

FLOWVERINE,

perhaps you should move to another country?
September 14, 2008 4:12 AM
 

Imlegend said:

When people are starving and hurting race, color, and religion don't matter as much. People need to realize that Black people only make up 12% of the US population. So when you see Obama winning, understand it is not black people that's voting for him. We have many felons who can't vote, people who are too young to vote and people too frustrated to vote. Now if you take those numbers it may leave you with 3 to 4 %, and you need 100% of the 3-4% to vote for Obama.  Stop listening to the news, whites are voting just as much for Obama than any other race, trust me.
September 14, 2008 6:46 AM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

Imlegend said: "Black people only make up 12% of the US population."  "Stop listening to the news"

@Imlegend

Rite on brotha, rite on.  And yes alot of whites are votin' for Obama now because it's democrats vs republicans.  Whites were favoring hill when it was dem vs dem, alot of them are still salty too.
September 14, 2008 7:19 AM
 

DUBZ01 said:

September 14, 2008 8:15 AM
 

MissDallasTx214 said:

tha clear said:
" I am Clayton Bigsby and I support this message"
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lmao, you silly!!! To me this is good, I hope this is the beginning to the end of racism in the south.....I just wanna add that I have a new respect for Ahh for posting this article and also giving your readers a chance to register to vote. For all the people who feel that your vote doesn't count, you are a part of the problem and not the solution and I have absolutely no respect for people like you.....our people went through hell to make it possible for us to vote and you sit on your ass and whine and complain about how messed up the economy is, but you do nothing to change it.....if you choose not to vote simply because you are to ignorant to realize you are contributing to making  a difference you are  letting someone else do it for you and you're just a fucking puppet!!!!!
@ ColombianKingEscobar, I think you could've gotten your point accross a lot better without using the word "fuck" so many times...I felt like I was reading an excerpt from def comedy jam....
@ Flowverine, 3 words is all your worth....take my advice and "go kill yourself"
September 14, 2008 8:47 AM
 

Boogie Man said:

HOLY SHIT YOU PPL ON HERE ARE FUCKING STUPID THEA ONLY WANT OBAMA TOO WIN SO THEA CAN KILL HIM YOU FUCKIN IDIOTS.WHY ELS WOUD A REDNECK SUPPORT A BLACK MAN

September 14, 2008 9:19 AM
 

chicagolove said:

ColombianKingEscobar said:

Bush is a scapegoat, bush never did shit wrong, and people cant prove anything on him,

ur sayin that black folks have made contributions to everything that is used today and dat has a major impact in people's life....ok, so wat da fuck does that gotta do wit u? u actlin like since they black all of the fuckin sudden that means its YOU,

the reason why economy is going down NOW, is because people dont TRUST one another, so they take their stocks out and the shit falls down,


and who is to blame? bush, wen he never did shit wrong but appear at the wrong place at the wrong time, like nobody ever did

didnt yalll use to love bush's nuts after 9-11 anyways?? wat happened to that?
September 14, 2008 12:39 AM
____________________________________________________

please people whatch what you drink and eat and take in as information

because I swear people are getting dumber by the minute SMH

stop drinking that flouride water and eating all them perservatives and chemical additives in food

and learn to think for yourselves and educate yourself

because they have done a superb job on dumbing down the masses

WOW


September 14, 2008 9:26 AM
 

verydope said:

white people are funny
September 14, 2008 9:28 AM
 

Hip Hop GM said:

Aint nothing like a cool ol red neck shaking your hand with all that pork juice all over'em. Yellow teeth and smelling like fish bait. LOL Gotta love it. America may be finally growing up. Hopefully.
September 14, 2008 10:10 AM
 

HELLRAISER said:

@FLOWVERINE - youre the prime example why i support abortions by handicap women because their kids just come out retarded as fuck.................
September 14, 2008 10:11 AM
 

TonyMalibu said:

Interesting...

From my experience, all rednecks aren't racist.  They DO love to drink their beer, they DO love their guns, and they DO love their hot rods and loud ass motors (example:  I bought my first car when I was 18 and the muffler went out and that shit started ROARING!  I was so embarassed, but then a redneck pulled up next to me at the stop light and yelled "Sounds good, brother!"  LOL).  But all of them aren't racist!

So I say Rednecks for Obama are okay.  Just lose the Confederate Flag, though.  That shits gone and never coming back.
September 14, 2008 11:31 AM
 

onemancoldworld said:

peace to flowverine

I feel cuz its true. no matter you do it will always be the same. the gov runs and they all liars.  no difference than a street nigga that will tell you anything you wanna here to get his way you better believe that obama will do the same. regardless of who the fucks in office im gonna get the same way ive been gettin it. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!! i got 4 seeds to feed and water so FUCK YOU IF YOU IN THE WAY

peace to all the soujas

one man cold world
September 14, 2008 12:42 PM
 

twelvejewelz29 said:

haha look at what your all doing. "you blacks" have been mad at the whites for being racist and you put us all in one category "the white man" . well we arnt all the same . for all you ignorant mothafuckas out there that do this shit you need to grow the fuck up.take it back to yourself.why are you so mad at the fuckin world. its not all whites just like its not all blacks...yea u have some whites that hate blacks but you have just as many blacks that hate whites. all this racism shit gotta stop.
September 14, 2008 12:56 PM
 

alwayzhuslin said:

@ flowverine...
Factually support your position.  Don't give us any assumptions, or some tired talk by saying "Obviously, (blah blah blah)".  You go pretty hard.  You need to be able to defend your stance even harder.  Otherwise, log off and shut that shit down.
September 14, 2008 2:18 PM
 

GawgaBwoy770 said:

I don't care who's supporting Obama..Them crackaz know why they are but the funny thing is the majority of you niggaz don't..Still one up on us..You niggaz voting for color..It's obvious them rednecks got more sense because we know that ain't why they supporting him..

Stop hollaring all that Obama for change shit..The only people that can change things is us..Because power is in numbers..Stop waiting on your savior and be a fucking man or woman and change your community, yourselves and your kids..
September 14, 2008 3:52 PM
 

Shutup Im talkn said:

IM NOT GOING TO POINT SPECIFIC POSTERS OR COMMENTS BECUZ IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THIS YOU'LL KNOW WHO I MEAN. IT TRULY SADDENS ME THE MINDSTATES OF PEOPLE. SOME OF YOU MISGUIDED PEOPLE WHO THINK YOU'RE SO RIGHT, CUZ YOU QUOTED SOMETHING YOU READ OR HEARD, COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. MANY OF YOU REACT SO EMOTIONALLY THAT YOU NOT ONLY SPEAK OUT OF IGNORANCE, YOU FAIL TO SPELL CORRECTLY(I READ ALL COMMENTS, ITS HARD TO READ THE BOGOUSLY MISSPELLED ONES SOMETIMES). I AM GLAD OF ONE THING, "IGNORANT" OR NOT, THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN OPINION ON SUBJECTS THAT TRULY MATTER.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!!BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!!BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BLACKS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANY MAJOR GAINS IN THIS COUNTRY IN THE FIELDS OF MEDICINE, SCIENCE, ENGINEERING, INVENTING, BUSINESS ALL ACROSS THE BOARD INFACT. UNFORTUNATELY THATS OVERLOOKED AND OVERSHADOWED BY TRIVIAL BULLSHIT. INCIDENTALLY SPORTS WERE INTERGRATED BECAUSE TICKET SALES AT BLACK SPORTS ARENAS WERE SO HIGH DUE TO ALL THE BLACKS THAT ATTENDED AND THE WHITES THAT WERE IN ATTENDANCE. WHEREAS WHITE TEAMS HAD 2 OR 3 TOP PLAYERS, DAMN NEAR EVERY BLACK PLAYER WAS PHENOMENAL, SO NOT ONLY DID BLACK ARENAS MAKE MORE MONEY BLACK OWNERS DID AS WELL, AND WHITES WISELY INTERGRATED SPORTS BEFORE THEY BECOME OBSELETE. (IF YOU THINK NOT JUST LOOK AT THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIV IN BOXING, FEW BLACKS AND EVEN LESS INTREST). THE POINT IM MAKING THOUGH, IS WE'VE DEALT WITH A GREAT DEAL OF HARDTIMES AND SUFFERING IN THIS COUNTRY, DESPITE WHAT NON-BLACKS MAY SAY TO THE CONTRARY, AND THIS ELECTION REPRESNTS A RETURN ON OUR INVESTENT OF STRUGGLE. I SUPPORT OBAMA 1)BECAUSE I BELIEVE HE'D BE THE BEST PRESIDENT AMERICA HAS HAD SINCE ROOSEVELT AND 2)WHICH IS NUMBER ONE TO ME, BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. YOU SEE HIM BEING BLACK PUTS MY HEART IN THIS NOT JUST MY MIND. IF HE WASN'T BLACK BUT HAD THE SAME CREDENTIALS AND BACKGROUND, I'D STILL SUPPORT HIM, BUT MY SENSE OF WHO I AM WOULDN'T BE TIED INTO IT. NOW IM NOT SO NAIVE THAT I THINK HE CAME TO SAVE BLACK PEOPLE, NOR AM I FOOL ENOUGH TO THINK THIS SYSTEM IS DESIGNED FOR OUR SUCCESS, ITS NOT. BUT THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS NON-BLACKS CAN'T BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT THIS CANDIDACY MEANS FOR US, AND I FOR ONE AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY IM A NIGGA FOR OBAMA. FOR THOSE OF YOU PROGRESSIVE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO DON'T LIKE THE N-WORD UNDERSTAND THIS, THE BLACK MAN IS GOD, AND IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT CANT BE EXPLAINED TO YOU. BLACKS STOP ATTACKING BLACKS, IF YOU THINK FLAVOR FLAV MADE US LOOK BAD(HE DIDN'T) HOW DO YOU THNK IT LOOKS WHEN WE GO AT EACH OTHERS THROATS. I COULD GO ON FOR DAYS, BUT I WON'T. HOWEVER I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE WHITES, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO END RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY?  
September 14, 2008 4:49 PM
 

WhitneynStevie said:

Hahaha. The thing that people dont understand is White people use the term redneck like Blacks use nigga. It isnt a derogatory term when used right, it just represents a southern white who are just country bumpkins. When you start talking about white trash now thats a term used for the prejudice bunch. Like white trash arent all ways rednecks and all rednecks arent white trash. Might sound ignorant but I know alot of rednecks that arent prejudice what so ever.
September 14, 2008 4:58 PM
 

KillaRell said:

that's cool.  i can understand some of the mistrust, but seriously, what would be the point of "acting" like Obama supporters.  A positive endorsement is not going to stop others from listening.  So basically, to endorse Obama publicly means that others will be influenced by their decision whether they vote for him or not.  So, it would be pointless to be "fake supporters."  It's not a conspiracy to everything, these guys support Obama and that's what's up.
September 14, 2008 6:08 PM
 

Rig said:

Obama: The Price of Being Black
By Andrew Hacker
Restoring the Right to Vote
by Erika Wood

Brennan Center for Justice, 34 pp., available at www.brennancenter.org
Crawford v. Marion County [Indiana] Election Board

US Supreme Court, April 28, 2008
Florida State Conference of the NAACP v. Browning

US Court of Appeals, 11th Circuit, April 3, 2008

In May, Hillary Clinton described many of her core supporters as "hard-working Americans, white Americans." Primary voting in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia confirmed her surmise. Her remark seemed, without saying so, to claim an advantage over Obama that was due to his race. But there's more we need to know. We can see how being a farmer or a bond trader or a gun collector might influence your vote. And we understand why black Americans would want a person of their race in the Oval Office. But just what is there about being white that might incline someone toward one candidate instead of another?

Senator Clinton implied that this identity was salient for some voters and that she could appeal to it. Polls showed that some 15 to 20 percent of white voters in those three states said that "race" was a factor in their vote, and we are left to wonder just how much of a factor and how many more would have said the same if they had been frank with the interviewer. People are uneasy talking about the subject of race, but the feeling persists that Obama's half-ancestry could tip the scales on November 4.
1.

Barack Obama can only become president by mustering a turnout that will surpass the votes he is not going to get. This may well mean that more black Americans than ever will have to go to the polls, if only because the electorate is predominantly white, and it isn't clear how their votes will go. Obstacles to getting blacks to vote have always been formidable, but this year there will be barriers—some new, some long-standing—that previous campaigns have not had to face.
New York Review Books Classics

For many years, the momentum was toward making the franchise universal. Property qualifications were ended; the poll tax was nullified; the voting age was lowered to eighteen. But now strong forces are at work to downsize the electorate, ostensibly to combat fraud and strip the rolls of voters who are ineligible for one reason or another. But the real effect is to make it harder for many black Americans to vote, largely because they are more vulnerable to challenges than other parts of the population.

Licensed to Vote

In a 6–3 decision in April written by John Paul Stevens, Crawford v. Marion County Election Board , the Supreme Court upheld a 2005 Indiana law requiring voters in that state to produce a government document with a photograph at the polls. In practical terms, this meant a passport or a driver's license. Since less than a third of adults have a passport, the Indiana case focused largely on how many adults lack a license to drive. During oral arguments, several justices pressed the plaintiff's lawyer for an answer. For reasons I cannot fathom, he kept using the number 43,000, for a state whose voting-age population is 4.6 million. In fact, the Federal Highway Administration, in an easily obtained report, says that 673,926 adult residents of Indiana have no license, which works out to a not trivial 14.7 percent of the state's potential electorate. Had that percentage been stressed, we can conjecture that Justices Stevens and Anthony Kennedy might have shifted their position.

Requiring a driver's license to vote has a disparate racial impact, a finding that once commanded judicial notice. To apply for the state ID card that Indiana offers as an alternative, moreover, nondrivers must travel to a motor vehicles office, which for many would be a lengthy trip. While licenses do not record race, Justice David Souter cited relevant studies of the race of license-holders in his dissent, which was joined by Justices Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. In one survey, made by the Department of Justice in 1994, black residents of Louisiana were found to be four to five times more likely not to have the official photograph needed for an identifying document. (Not to mention access to a car; recall how many couldn't leave as Katrina approached.) A Wisconsin survey published in 2005 was more precise. No fewer than 53 percent of black adults in Milwaukee County were not licensed to drive, compared with 15 percent of white adults in the remainder of the state. According to its author, similar disparities will be found across the nation. [1]

The Indiana decision will not only make it harder to add new people to the rolls; many who had previously voted without photo identification are now required to produce an official photograph. If Marion County (Indianapolis) has the same proportion of unlicensed voters as Milwaukee County, I count it as having more than 44,000 black residents who will be needing transport to motor bureaus to ensure that each item in their nondriver ID application has been properly filled in. Extended nationwide, this means that a lot of on-the-ground assistance is going to be needed.

Purging the Rolls

In 2002, Congress passed the amiably titled Help America Vote Act, presumably to thwart the recurrence of butterfly ballots and dimpled chads. To ensure that voters won't face problems at their polling place, each state is required to maintain an electronic "statewide voter registration list," to be linked to every precinct. States were also mandated to keep their lists current, eliminating the people who die or move away. One method is to mail letters to everyone on the rolls and expunge the names on those letters returned because the addressee could not be found. But black families tend to move more, especially in cities, and few think to notify election officials. When Ohio purged 35,427 returned names in 2004, a review found that the addresses were in "mostly urban and minority areas." [2] Here too, getting back on the rolls can be like mending a mistaken credit rating.

Florida doesn't depend on mailings. Rather, it uses computers to match registrants' names against their Social Security numbers, which are then sent to Washington (actually Baltimore) to see if they match. Whoever devised this system should have known that the Social Security Administration is unable to match submitted names with numbers in 28 percent of the cases sent to it: for example, because they are maiden names of women who married or changed them back after a divorce. [3] Not to mention keyboard operators getting a single digit wrong. Florida also uses the help-the-voter act to check felony records, since convicted criminals there can't vote. Oddly, it only requires that 80 percent of the letters in your name match with the name of someone with such a record. So if there's a murderous John Peterson, the software disenfranchises everyone named John Peters. In view of the racial rates for incarceration, black voters are more apt to have names closely resembling those with felony histories.

Florida's system for purging the voting lists was approved by a 2–1 ruling in federal circuit court this spring, Flor-ida State Conference of the NAACP v. Browning . The dissenting judge, Rosemary Barkett, a Clinton appointee, was the only one to spell out the disparate racial impact. She noted that while black voters made up 13 percent of the scanned pool, they comprised 26 percent of those who were purged; while whites were 66 percent of the pool, they were only 17 percent of the rejected group. Again, if you have plenty of time, you can claim that the computer was mistaken and try to find documents that show you exist and were never a felon.

Voteless for Life

Proportional to the population, the United States leads the world in putting people behind bars, and currently has 2.3 million in its jails and prisons. Among inmates, black men and women outnumber Hispanics by more than two to one and whites by nearly six to one. This is another reason why a much higher ratio of black citizens will be unable to vote this year, because they are among either the 882,300 who are currently incarcerated or the two million who have served sentences but continue to be disenfranchised. According to Restoring the Right to Vote , a report by the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School, 13 percent of black men cannot cast votes; in three states 20 percent cannot because they are locked up or formerly were.

Some states specify felonies that condemn the citizen to disenfranchisement for life. Alabama includes soliciting a child by computer, possession of obscene matter, and treason. Yes, some crimes are heinous; but completing a sentence is supposed to signify that a debt has been paid. Indeed, a desire to vote can be seen as showing a willingness to accept a citizen's obligations. Virginia takes an especially harsh view of drug offenses, which is mainly why so many black Americans are imprisoned there, not least because it's so easy to make such arrests. Released offenders must wait seven years before they can file a petition for their vote, which must be accompanied by seven documents and several supporting letters, plus another to the governor detailing "how your life has changed" and specifying "why you feel your rights should be restored."

Mississippi has a similar regimen: with 155,127 men and women released between 1992 and 2004, only 107 petitions to have the right to vote restored were approved. The disenfranchisement of former felons in Kentucky has reduced its potential black electorate by 24 percent. [4]

According to the Brennan Center report, only Maine and Vermont allow inmates to vote (as they can in Israel and Canada). Thirteen states, including Pennsylvania and Michigan, allow former convicts to vote upon their release from prison, while twenty-five bar voting until such ex-prisoners have completed their probation or parole. The other ten, like Alabama and Virginia, make the process of reattaining the right to vote so arduous that most people don't try. Nor does there seem to be much sentiment in those states for removing the bans or lowering the barriers. So allowing one-time inmates to become full citizens will be a long-term campaign; it will not likely have much effect on the next few elections.
2.

While a high black turnout will obviously help Obama, whether he becomes president will hinge on the decisions of white voters. (Most Hispanic-Americans list themselves as white or don't designate a race.) In all, 94.2 million white Americans took part in the 2004 presidential election, as compared to only 13.5 million blacks; and 58 percent of whites supported George W. Bush against just 41 percent for John Kerry. So the Obama campaign, even if helped by external events, will have to change a lot of white minds.

There are already danger signs. In three states, race will in effect be on the ballot. Colorado and Nebraska are giving their residents a chance to ban affirmative action. The measures in both states carry the title " civil rights initiative ," at the urging of the black political activist Ward Connerly, who succeeded in outlawing affirmative action in California and has inspired similar campaigns in other states. The signs are that both measures will pass with votes to spare. This is what happened in California (1996), Washington (1998), and Michigan (2006), which tend to be liberal states. The reason isn't hard to find. Putting affirmative action on a ballot encourages white majorities to identify themselves by their race. It's their rights they are voting to restore.

What is seldom openly said is that a lot of white Americans feel racially aggrieved. They were represented by Barbara Grutter and Jennifer Gratz, whose petitions to end affirmative action reached the Supreme Court in 2003. [5] Their claims were that places which would otherwise have been theirs at the University of Michigan were given to less qualified black applicants. Thus, they argued, they were rejected because they were white, and there was an official preference for other races. In separate decisions, the Court narrowly upheld the law school's affirmative action method, while striking down the undergraduate admissions procedure.

What is rarely mentioned is that neither Grutter nor Gratz were outstanding candidates. To put it crudely, they weren't high on the "white list." And a lot of whites see themselves in the same situation. They are the ones who don't get admission or promotions, and thus feel they bear the brunt of affirmative action. Nor are they wrong about this, as Obama observed in his Philadelphia speech. Moreover, such feelings about affirmative action appear to be nationwide, even in states where it hasn't been on the ballot. Obama's word "bitter" may describe a good many blue-collar and middle-income families whose children have been rejected by their state's university.

This explains why close to 65 percent of white voters in California, Washington, and Michigan supported the bans, and why similar proportions are expected to in Colorado and Nebraska this November. So a task of Obama's campaign is to ensure that this white cause—which is what it is—does not carry over to the presidential contest. While only fourteen electoral votes are at stake, they could make a difference. Two Democratic senators, Patty Murray of Washington and Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, may have some useful advice. In 1998 and 2006, it was clear that many voters whose support they needed would also be supporting repeal of affirmative action. Yet Murray managed to win with 58 percent of the total, while Stabenow's margin was 56 percent. How they managed to keep separate their own election and the vote on affirmative action, for example, by emphasizing economic issues, could be instructive.

As I write, several polls give Obama about 47 percent and McCain about 45 percent, a decline of several points for Obama from the polls of May and July. The rest of the respondents say they are undecided. At the same time the state-by-state estimates by pollster.com show Obama leading in electoral votes, with 102 such votes a "toss-up." The numbers will probably have changed by the time you read this. Yet now and later, there's a chance that the real percentages will be the reverse of those I've cited. Some people who are telling pollsters they're for Obama could actually be lying.

Such behavior has been called the "Bradley Effect ," after Tom Bradley, a black mayor of Los Angeles who lost his bid to be California's governor back in 1982. While every poll showed him leading his white opponent, that isn't how the final tally turned out. Things haven't been far different in some other elections involving black candidates. In 1989, David Dinkins was eighteen points ahead in the polls for New York's mayoral election, but ended up winning by only a two-point edge. The same year, Douglas Wilder was projected to win Virginia's governorship by nine points, but squeaked in with one half of one percent of the popular vote. Nor are examples only from the past. In Michigan in 2006, the final polls forecast that the proposal to ban affirmative action would narrowly prevail by 51 percent. In fact, it handily passed with 58 percent. That's a Bradley gap of seven points, which isn't trivial.

Pollsters contend that respondents often change their minds at the last minute, or that conservatives are less willing to cooperate with surveys. Another twist is that more voters are mailing in absentee ballots, and it's not clear how those early decisions are reflected in the polls. Yet the Bradley gap persists after voters have actually cast their ballots. Just out of the booth, we hear them telling white exit pollers that they supported the black candidate, whereas returns from these precincts show far fewer such votes. Thus they lie to interviewers they don't know and will never see again. Barack Obama wants to think "white guilt [over treatment of blacks] has largely exhausted itself in America." [6] I'm less sure. Almost all people who reject black candidates say they have nonracial reasons for doing so. And many undoubtedly believe what they're saying. So I'm not persuaded that the Bradley gap won't emerge this year. The Obama campaign would do well to print signs to post prominently in all its offices: ALWAYS SUBTRACT SEVEN PERCENT!

Since 1968, the Democratic Party has not been able to muster a majority of white Americans. Al Gore fell twelve percentage points behind among white voters in 2000, and John Kerry had a seventeen-point gap four years later. It all started with Richard Nixon's strategy, which was initially aimed at the South. With the opening of electoral rolls to blacks, the then-dominant Democrats were becoming a biracial party, which disconcerted many whites. So Nixon invited them to join the Republicans, assuring them that they would not press to integrate their party. The formula continued to work when it moved north with the emergence of Reagan Democrats. By the 2000 GOP convention, there were only eighty-five black faces among the 2,022 Republican delegates. Some unknown proportion of white voters doesn't want to support a party to which black Americans are drawn—"any more," as Darryl Pinckney has noted, "than they would go on living on a street that got too integrated." [7]

I've been careful so far not to use the word "racism." The term itself has become an obstacle to understanding. Once white people hear it, they tend to freeze, and start listing reasons why it doesn't apply to them. After all, most Americans admire Oprah Winfrey, like Tiger Woods, and respect Colin Powell. Yet racism persists, albeit not publicly voiced, especially in the belief that one's own is a superior strain. Here, however, not many whites regard Barack Obama as their inferior; effete or arrogant perhaps, but they don't fault him on intellect. To some, indeed, he may seem too much the intellectual. Resentment of perceived black privilege is also involved, as we have seen with respect to affirmative action, and even fear of some kind of racial payback. Over half of a largely white sample told a Rasmussen poll that they feel Obama continues to share at least some of Reverend Jeremiah Wright's positions on America.

On underlying sentiments, surveys aren't much help. For example, in an ABC News /Washington Post poll in June, 20 percent of the whites who responded said a candidate's race would factor heavily in their vote, while 30 percent admitted to feelings of racial prejudice. If the Bradley Effect was at work, as many as one third of the voters may count race as important. (We know of whites who are for Obama because they'd like to have a black president, which is also a racial reason.) In July, 70 percent of whites told a New York Times/ CBS News poll that they felt the country "is ready to elect a black president." Of course; that's what people feel obliged to say today. Yet some might have followed it up with "but not Barack Obama." The surveys can't measure white apprehensions over having a black man at the head of their government.

Michael Tomasky has said that to win, Barack Obama "will need to build multiracial coalitions." Music What seems more needed, in my view, are two parallel campaigns: a quiet one to assure a maximum black turnout, and a more public one to make the most of the white backing the Obama-Biden ticket already has. His rallies, appearances, and advertisements would benefit from featuring white faces, and they should be accompanied by endorsements from white military veterans, union leaders, police chiefs, and firemen. His black supporters will know what is going on, and not take this as a rebuff.
September 14, 2008 10:56 PM
 

mississippi said:

SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU THROW UP A CONFEDERATE FLAG IN AN ARTICLE AND ATTRACT SHALLOW MINDED PEOPLE.  ALL THIS BACK AND FOWARD HATE UM READIN ON HERE. AND JUS THINK, THESE R PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN EACH OTHER. SO IMAGINE IF EVERYBODY ON THIS BLOG WAS FACE TO FACE. BUT ALOT OF YALL PREACHIN PROGRESS. READ YOURSELVES, I DONT SEE NO PROGRESSION. AND IT'S SAD TO SAY, BUT WE AS BLACKS ARE AS RACIST AS THE NEXT RACE. TAKE "BET" FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT IF WHITE PEOPLE HAD A CHANNEL CALLED "WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV?'' SHIT WOULD FEEL TO COMFORTABLE WOULD IT? UM FROM THE SIPP MAN AND HAVE LIVED IN ARKANSAS, THE 2 MOST RACIST STATES IN THE COUNTRY. AND HAVE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED RACISM IN ITS RAWEST FORMS. WE AINT MADE NO PROGRESS, THE KLAN STILL MARCHIN IN SHEETS DOWN HERE YALL. ALL YOU MILITANTS FROM UPSTATE, THAT SPIKE LEE MOVIE SHIT AINT REAL. THIS SHIT DOWN HERE IS REAL. ALL I GOT TO SAY IS, "YOU THINK YOU KNOW BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA." IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE PEOPLE.
September 14, 2008 11:01 PM
 

mississippi said:

SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU THROW UP A CONFEDERATE FLAG IN AN ARTICLE AND ATTRACT SHALLOW MINDED PEOPLE.  ALL THIS BACK AND FOWARD HATE UM READIN ON HERE. AND JUS THINK, THESE R PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN EACH OTHER. SO IMAGINE IF EVERYBODY ON THIS BLOG WAS FACE TO FACE. BUT ALOT OF YALL PREACHIN PROGRESS. READ YOURSELVES, I DONT SEE NO PROGRESSION. AND IT'S SAD TO SAY, BUT WE AS BLACKS ARE AS RACIST AS THE NEXT RACE. TAKE "BET" FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT IF WHITE PEOPLE HAD A CHANNEL CALLED "WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV?'' SHIT WOULD FEEL TO COMFORTABLE WOULD IT? UM FROM THE SIPP MAN AND HAVE LIVED IN ARKANSAS, THE 2 MOST RACIST STATES IN THE COUNTRY. AND HAVE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED RACISM IN ITS RAWEST FORMS. WE AINT MADE NO PROGRESS, THE KLAN STILL MARCHIN IN SHEETS DOWN HERE YALL. ALL YOU MILITANTS FROM UPSTATE, THAT SPIKE LEE MOVIE SHIT AINT REAL. THIS SHIT DOWN HERE IS REAL. ALL I GOT TO SAY IS, "YOU THINK YOU KNOW BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA." IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE PEOPLE.
September 14, 2008 11:02 PM
 

mississippi said:

SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU THROW UP A CONFEDERATE FLAG IN AN ARTICLE AND ATTRACT SHALLOW MINDED PEOPLE.  ALL THIS BACK AND FOWARD HATE UM READIN ON HERE. AND JUS THINK, THESE R PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN EACH OTHER. SO IMAGINE IF EVERYBODY ON THIS BLOG WAS FACE TO FACE. BUT ALOT OF YALL PREACHIN PROGRESS. READ YOURSELVES, I DONT SEE NO PROGRESSION. AND IT'S SAD TO SAY, BUT WE AS BLACKS ARE AS RACIST AS THE NEXT RACE. TAKE "BET" FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT IF WHITE PEOPLE HAD A CHANNEL CALLED "WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV?'' SHIT WOULD FEEL TO COMFORTABLE WOULD IT? UM FROM THE SIPP MAN AND HAVE LIVED IN ARKANSAS, THE 2 MOST RACIST STATES IN THE COUNTRY. AND HAVE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED RACISM IN ITS RAWEST FORMS. WE AINT MADE NO PROGRESS, THE KLAN STILL MARCHIN IN SHEETS DOWN HERE YALL. ALL YOU MILITANTS FROM UPSTATE, THAT SPIKE LEE MOVIE SHIT AINT REAL. THIS SHIT DOWN HERE IS REAL. ALL I GOT TO SAY IS, "YOU THINK YOU KNOW BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA." IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE PEOPLE.
September 14, 2008 11:02 PM
 

mississippi said:

SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU THROW UP A CONFEDERATE FLAG IN AN ARTICLE AND ATTRACT SHALLOW MINDED PEOPLE.  ALL THIS BACK AND FOWARD HATE UM READIN ON HERE. AND JUS THINK, THESE R PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER SEEN EACH OTHER. SO IMAGINE IF EVERYBODY ON THIS BLOG WAS FACE TO FACE. BUT ALOT OF YALL PREACHIN PROGRESS. READ YOURSELVES, I DONT SEE NO PROGRESSION. AND IT'S SAD TO SAY, BUT WE AS BLACKS ARE AS RACIST AS THE NEXT RACE. TAKE "BET" FOR EXAMPLE. WHAT IF WHITE PEOPLE HAD A CHANNEL CALLED "WHITE ENTERTAINMENT TV?'' SHIT WOULD FEEL TO COMFORTABLE WOULD IT? UM FROM THE SIPP MAN AND HAVE LIVED IN ARKANSAS, THE 2 MOST RACIST STATES IN THE COUNTRY. AND HAVE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED RACISM IN ITS RAWEST FORMS. WE AINT MADE NO PROGRESS, THE KLAN STILL MARCHIN IN SHEETS DOWN HERE YALL. ALL YOU MILITANTS FROM UPSTATE, THAT SPIKE LEE MOVIE SHIT AINT REAL. THIS SHIT DOWN HERE IS REAL. ALL I GOT TO SAY IS, "YOU THINK YOU KNOW BUT YOU HAVE NO IDEA." IT'S VERY MUCH ALIVE PEOPLE.
September 14, 2008 11:04 PM
 

TwoGunsUp said:

"ColombianKingEscobar said:
and wat da fuck did bush ever do to u anyways? why does everyone hate bush? wat da fuck did he ever do except serve his own fuckin country as good as anyone could??"


ColombianKingEscobar, you dumbfuk!  What did Bush do?!?!

He squandered a RECORD budget surplus that the Clinton administration passed to him.  The dollar is at a record low!  Average income, when adjusted for inflation, is DOWN 3% from 2000.  That means that people are making 3% LESS today than they did in 2000.

Do you see how high home heating and fuel costs are?  You think it's a coincidence that the last eight years have been the best eight years of oil companies' existence?   Do you even know that Bush and Chenney are oil men?  

911?  He went to war with the WRONG country, you imbecile!  There were no WMDs in Iraq and OSAMA hasn't been caught!  

Man, u r stupid!

September 15, 2008 12:22 AM
 

drewhood said:

@columbiankingescobar

just cause you live in the suburbs and daddy makes alot of money doesnt give you the right to speak on real issues. were tryna save this country, help out the people who dont have the same opportunties as you and your little gay friends. Dont try to tell me that everyone has the same opportunities because they dont. the fact that you actually think that shows how ignorant you really are. we know your one of these wannabes who listens to rap, acts all hard, but then supports republicans. get the fuck outta here. who have no grasp on the real world or what this country is really like for the less fortunate. Do me a favor and venture outside the comfort of the suburbs and see what life is really like for others before you speak again.... punk.
September 15, 2008 12:39 AM
 

Shutup Im talkn said:

@MISSISSIPPI
WHITES DO HAVE THEIR OWN CHANNEL ITS CALLED ALL OF THEM BUT BET, TV1, AND TELEMUNDO. WE SAY RACIAL SHIT BECAUSE WE ARE A PRODUCT OF IT, BUT THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE SAY AND WHAT THEY SAY, AND THAT IS WE NEVER ENSLAVED AND OPPRESSED THEM OR SEPERATED THEM FROM THHEIR CULTURE. YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHOSE SIDE YOUR ON BEFORE ITS DECIDED FOR YOU.
September 15, 2008 3:17 AM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

@ ColumbianKingEscobar:

Kudo's for coming in first in the dumbest $hyt to say category! Your hard to beat , although Hellraiser & BoogieMan are right on your a$$. Luckily for me, your name gives the heads up on what kind of fake $hyt dribbles out of your a$$.

@Trooper74 & Flowverine:
You guys are both on the right path , even though it's different. Good views, but you forgot that working together is better than working against each other.

IE: Malcom X & Martin Luther King.

Options. Do what we can , to get where we want. No disputing how fukked up $hyt is. Some climb the wall, some go around it , while others break it down. Sucess is the true validation of strategy.

The fact is , without Land to base our political, social , & economic unity , we have to do what we can & what we "GOTTA".

On the get out / find an Island:
Sounds good , except there is no place for "BLACKS" to call home. (IE: StateHood)

"We've been taught to say our name,
Afro-American , we're all the same.
Not fully Amercican but getting there very slowly,
Because to be fully American you know,
You got to take out the word Afro,
Now they've relaxed our hair & might as well call us Toby!"
.....KRS-ONE

@GawgaBoy770:

You ain't never lie! Good summary.
September 15, 2008 4:25 AM
 

DSTB13 said:

lol thats fucking cool! fuck it im down 2 Mexicans for Obama
September 15, 2008 6:42 AM
 

TROOPER74 said:

@ ColombianKingEscobar

I SEE U JUST WANTED TO GET IN ON THE COMMENTS CUZ U DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. I'M NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA CUZ HE'S BLACK I'M VOTING CUZ HE'S THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA. BUT IF I WAS VOTING BECUZ HE'S BLACK, WHY WOULD THAT BE A PROBLEM WITH YOU????? I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME GOING INTO YOUR COMMENT CUZ IT WAS SO MUCH THAT WAS JUST BACKWARDS AND CRAZY.

ANYWAY SHOUT OUT TO EVERYONE AND LETS DO WHAT'S NEEDED TO GET PPL TO VOTE AND VOTE FOR THE RIGHT PERSON.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08
September 15, 2008 10:28 AM
 

Imlegend said:

@ ColombianKingEscobar

Bush isn't a scapegoat, he was a puppet. All of the people behind the scenes made sure he benefited. Bush had no choice to but to respond to the 9/11 attacks with force. First because  we were attacked. Not to mention his approval rating was low and he needed the country to get behind him. After the attacks that was his highest approval rating. Not to mention Colin Powell was against the plan for war in the middle east and he was one of the last people consulted about going to war. The reason why he was against going to war in Iraq was because he was the only person who had wartime experience in the middle east. That's why Sec of Defense Rice is there now, because Powell didn't go along with the plan.

People are excited because we have a black man who can speak well and really has a good shot at winning. I don't know what Obama can do if he wins, but I do like him because he seems like he get people together. You are right that he is not going to magically make everything right, but he seems to have the intellect and sense to listen and get the right people together to make things happen.

@ Flowverine

You said this isn't your land and that ain't your money, right?
When you go to work and you get your check do you give the money back, since it's not your money? As far as your land where would you go because last time I checked Africa doesn't look at blacks in America as Africans.

The greatest trick the devil played on man was to convince him that he never existed!
September 15, 2008 2:30 PM
 

Imlegend said:

Thanks Killuminati 187


Got a few question for us to think about


1) Next time you look at the news or read the news and you see oil prices look at how many excuses they give for high gas prices, Keep in mind that the US gets most of it's oil from Canada, Mexico and parts of South America. Then ask yourself why none of the stories make sense.

2)Do you really think we will totally get out of the middle east? If so ask yourself when was the last time the US invaded a country and left? (exception Vietnam)

3)With us the tax-paying people bailing everybody out, how can we expect to seriously think about heath care for all? All the banks going under while the Presidents and CEOs rob the banks we bail them out. Not to mention housing market is a mess. How can we help ourselves (the little people) when the little people bail out the rich?

4) My last question is this, the US has given away a lot of jobs overseas. We have destroyed small businesses also by making it too expensive to start one. How do we build back our economy after giving away our jobs?
September 15, 2008 2:57 PM
 

ColombianKingEscobar said:

@columbiankingescobar

just cause you live in the suburbs and daddy makes alot of money doesnt give you the right to speak on real issues. were tryna save this country, help out the people who dont have the same opportunties as you and your little gay friends. Dont try to tell me that everyone has the same opportunities because they dont. the fact that you actually think that shows how ignorant you really are. we know your one of these wannabes who listens to rap, acts all hard, but then supports republicans. get the fuck outta here. who have no grasp on the real world or what this country is really like for the less fortunate. Do me a favor and venture outside the comfort of the suburbs and see what life is really like for others before you speak again.... punk.
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why tha fuck do u wanna get personal on me? u dont know who i fuckin am, u cant speak on me for what i fuckin do, i give an opinion to a dumbass comment someone posted

u come to tell me up n front about a dumbass stereotype that im from the "suburbs" i could be from the fuckin hamptons, i;ll still beat ur ass...i could come from the MIA and still beat dat fuckin ass, and i wont, this aint a threat, this is the web, and nuttin is going to happen, u dont know me...bitch

u didnt prove me wrong, u didnt say anything coherent

"are. we know your one of these wannabes who listens to rap, acts all hard, but then supports republicans" what?? what da fuck does that even mean? wannabes? wannabe what? u act like listenin to rap is made specially for specific people, wen music is music, i can listen to watever tha fuck i want to listen to, u aint own shit....acts hard? how da fuck do u act hard? how do u know i act hard? r u pullin this shit out ya ass from watchin so many goddamn movies? cus i aint kno noone who fits those categories dumb bitch...supports republicans? muthafukin McCain doesnt even consider himself a full-pledged republican but a person who is tryin to get everyone together, instead of obama askin for change and unity but trying to get democrats and republicans against each other

make senes out of the unconcsious shit u say, and know when some1 is right but u dont agree wit it....cus i kno im right
bitch

Imlegend
thanx for a smart comment....from what it looked like, a big majority of the people supported bush after he went to attack the middle east, so im not sure what you are trying to tell me
but it made more sense than the rest of those retards

and ur right people ARE excited because he's black, and its better for a soap opera...but real life is different, if obama was more interested in his country than his career, maybe i would go for him, other than that...NAAH, you cant run a country based on WORDS

ChicagoLove

what da fuck was that?


TROOPER74 said:
@ ColombianKingEscobar

I SEE U JUST WANTED TO GET IN ON THE COMMENTS CUZ U DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL. I'M NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA CUZ HE'S BLACK I'M VOTING CUZ HE'S THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA. BUT IF I WAS VOTING BECUZ HE'S BLACK, WHY WOULD THAT BE A PROBLEM WITH YOU????? I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME GOING INTO YOUR COMMENT CUZ IT WAS SO MUCH THAT WAS JUST BACKWARDS AND CRAZY.

ANYWAY SHOUT OUT TO EVERYONE AND LETS DO WHAT'S NEEDED TO GET PPL TO VOTE AND VOTE FOR THE RIGHT PERSON.
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the only reason why a country really needs a president is to run foreign affairs, everything else, congress, and why da fuck does it matter if blacks have done all that shit? that aint you so quit acting like since its ur race u deserve to get the credit
dumbass
September 15, 2008 5:56 PM
 

drewhood said:

wannabekingcolumbianescobar said:

" u didnt say anything coherent."

What I was trying to explain to your dumb ass is why you feel that bush has done nothing wrong. you feel this way because you live in the suburbs and you dont get it *fact*

"you didnt prove me wrong"  "What has bush ever done to you?"

ok lemme go ahead and prove your simple ass wrong. what has bush ever done to me? well lets see, under bush a gallon of gas costs 4 dollars, under clinton it cost $1.87,*fact* To you this probably isnt a big deal since daddy just hands you the money. What else? well he has sent 4000 of my brothers and sisters to Iraq to die for weapons of mass destruction, which by the way they never had. *fact* He was doubled the unemployment rate since 2001 from the %3 to %6*fact* He has doubled the national debt since 2001. *fact* I could go on and on if you want.

"cus I know im right"
you know what? you have a point, bush actually decreased the top 1 percent of americans taxes, so the rich get richer. And that is the reason you support bush/mccain.

"mccain doesnt consider himself a full pledged republican"

So someone who votes with George Bush 95 PERCENT OF THE TIME isnt a full pledged republican?. Someone who wants to stay in Iraq for the next 100 YEARS, thats not a full pledged republican?

Listen, everytime you open your mouth ignorance comes out, for your sake dont tell any of your black friends you dont support obama, cause they'd probably kick your ass back to the suburbs.

 
September 15, 2008 8:09 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

CHECK OUT THIS EMAIL:


I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're  'exotic, different.'

Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers,  a quintessential American story.
If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic  Muslim.

Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a  maverick.

Graduate from  Harvard law School and you are unstable.

Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating,  you're well grounded.

If you spend=2
03 years as a brilliant community  organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years  as a Constitutional Law professor,  spend 8 years as a State Senator  representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United  States Senate representing a state of  13 million people while sponsoring 131  bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and  Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership  experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl,  4  years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than  7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people,  then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking  executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19  years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches,  you're not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich  heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month,  you're a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex  education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the  fiber of society.

If , while governor, you staunchly advocate  abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave  up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her  inner city community,  then gave that up to raise a family, your family's  values don't represent America's.

If you're husband is nicknamed 'First Dude',   with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register  to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the  secession of Alaska
from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

September 16, 2008 2:57 PM
 

raynestizzy said:

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September 16, 2008 3:12 PM
 

TROOPER74 said:

@THEWELLWISHERColombianKingEscobar

I SEE YOU STILL A DUMBASS. WHO'S TRYING TO GET CREDIT FOR ANYTHING???? I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST KEEP YO YOUNG DUMBASS AT HOME. U WANT TO BE IN POLITICS BUT U DON'T KNOW SHIT.
September 16, 2008 3:13 PM
 

Nex Gin said:

@columbiankingescobar
Is that you SuperGangster? lol.

On the real though.....
Being ignorant requires no real effort.  Grasping the truth takes more effort than the majority is willing to expend.  Imagine if 300 million people were all taking the same test and 299 million of the people were cheating off that 1 other person.  If that 1 person was perceived as having all the answers but in actuality was a complete clueless idiot, there would be 299 million other idiots about to fail soley based on their belief in that one person.  

Moral of the story...Despite what Jay said #'s do and often will lie.
September 16, 2008 5:37 PM
 

Lucky1 said:

Its good to see the "Rednecks" supporting Obama also,
but.... What about our Hispanic people, where are they at?
Why is there these boundaries between Blacks and Browns?
Im mean, sh*t, we're damn near the same...
Where's my Brown people at? Mexican, P.R., Cuban, D.R., all of that, we need all of our Hispanic brothers and sisters to support Mr. Obama as well....

-1
September 16, 2008 6:11 PM
 

ColombianKingEscobar said:

DrewHood

so he basically didnt do SHITT right?

ur a fuckin dumbass, u really think if he fucked up that bad we wudaf impeached his ass? nah...dumbass u aint fuckin know

He freed 50 million people from dictatorships. 20 million in Afganistan and 30 million in Iraq. Not to mention that if these democracies can survive and thrive then democracy will spread throughout the entire middle east freeing 100s of millions of people.

He also Lowered taxes which helped offset a recession that was occurring right when he entered office. has any other president actually lowered taxes? which i sbasically why we aint a fuckin british colony still?

He tried to fix social security but was routed by the democrats. He also tried to drill in alaska for oil but was routed by  the democrats.

The dollar is losing value because people that invest in the dollar see that the US will not be able to pay for Social Security. The US won't be able to pay its bills.

Everything else is going up in value because to get something to your doorstep it requires oil and since we refuse to do the logical thing and drill for ourselves other countries know they can charge what ever they want and we have to buy it or there won't be any food on your doorstep.

I am disappointed that bush didnt show people what he really did for this country, but someone is to be blamed for

i didnt eat last nite...it was bush's fault

your lazy ass wants to get helped for fuckin evrythin cus u wont get ur fuckin ass out ur fuckin couch to look for a job, ur not self-sufficient, u always need someone else's help

i grew up on the northwest of bogota, in one of the poorest barrios that thrilled with crime, i moved here wen i was 10 off of an aunt who wanted my fam to b slave, im still broke as fuck, u wanna get personal wit me, then dig me bitch, but i aint gon try to get personal cus im discussin shti that REALLY MATTERS

FAKETROOPER47

ur the one posting comments about blacks being there for every big thing in major history, who tha fuck gives a shit? what happened happened, ur over there trying to say that
so wat da fuck r u saying??
What did they do?

They integrated sports and built larger stadiums and
arenas and tougher golf courses. Now, White folk want a new president to straighten out the Bush mess. WHAT WILL THEY DO, BASED ON HISTORY????

WHITE FOLKS AIN'T STUPID ..

what da fuck r u saying? white folk, white folk? what? u act like there's a secret race organization underground in which they plan to use a different race to do better than theirs, if they are so fuckin smart to come up wit these plans why dont they do it themselves? dumbass, i cant believe u still on that segregations hit
its 08 bitch, take it in

nex gin

why?
September 16, 2008 7:02 PM
 

drewhood said:

@escobarwannabe

Bush Tax cuts=tax cuts for rich, not for middle class and low class.
I own two businesses, if u need a job holla at me.
I got money, and as an american it is my job to help those less fortunate, thats what I believe

If your broke and support bush your 50 times dumber than I thought
100 000 innocent iraqis dead.
homeboy where do you get your info? fox news?
September 16, 2008 7:24 PM
 

mississippi said:

@ shutup im talkin
PUMP YO BRAKES HOMIE, UM ON GOD'S SIDE IF YOU SHOULD KNOW. SO YOU SAYIN WE SAY WHAT WE SAY CUZ OF SOMEBODY ELSE? NAAA. UM MY OWN PERSON PLAYA. ALL THAT TALK BOUT OPPRESSION IS OLD MAN. TAKE OFF DA LEATHER AFRICAN EMBLEM, IT'S TIME TO STOP BLAMIN THE WHITE MAN FOR EVERYTHING. THERE ARE JUST AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE FOR US NOW THAN THERE ARE FOR THEM. THE PAST IS THE PAST, I REMEMBER IT, BUT I KEEP IT MOVIN, IT'S OVER! TIME FOR DWELLIN ON IT IS OVER!
September 16, 2008 9:00 PM
 

Obknoxious said:

Why does everyone write in CAPS....like really come on....
September 17, 2008 1:13 AM
 

TCS said:

@ Trooper74: Calm down! Man, this election is really different than any one in the past because it's turning into a popularity contest! At the end of the day, whoever you choose to vote for is whoever you choose to vote for. To sit here and try to influence everybody else to see things your way is naive and unfair to those people who actually have a mind of their own!

Think for yourself...it's not illegal yet!

http://www.thecoppersun.wordpress.com

// TCS
September 17, 2008 7:58 AM
 

Imlegend said:

ColombianKingEscobar our dollar is going down because for years we've printed more money without anything to back it up with. Not to mention we have little consumer confidence and because small businesses are harder now to start and to grow to a bigger business, money doesn't flow right and we need other countries to buy our debt and invest in the US. That is the real reason why we have no choice but to bail all of these banks and etc out, because it would truely collapse our economy if we didn't therefore we add another 0 at the end of what we owe and print more money.
September 17, 2008 9:23 AM
 

ColombianKingEscobar said:

drewhood
u already made it...help urself, people dont need noone's help or we'll end up how we are, listen, i consider myself a republican because i believe that it is YOUR OWN duty to get money, u dont need people's help if you dont earn it
i dont want a fuckin government helping me out for what i need to do to survive, because if i do, i wouldnt know wat to do with the money once i get it, i dont need the government, n ya need to understand that people need to earn their shit n shudnt take help....dats y i believe bush didnt do much shit wrong.

u kno wat my godfather told me once? "if you dont get at the enemy first, the enemy will get at you" n he prevented that from happening, and naw, fox news is biased as fuck...i watch it to try to understand from their point of view, but then again i watch cnn when the dem convention was on

Imlegend
do you understand why we have little consumer confidence? my point exactly, last time we printed out money wasnt it a stimulus package? or was it just money in federal banks? o yea it was checks......last i heard tho, the dollar is going back up, u gon blame bush for that too bro?
September 17, 2008 4:56 PM
 

Imlegend said:

This has been going on for a long time My grandparents told me this was going to happen in the 80's. The only reason our dollar is respected in the world is because we are the US and other countries have invested in our country. The dollar was only worth 18 cent when I was growing up. The reason why was we have always printed out money and before you know it the gold in Ft Knox wasn't enough to back the dollar up. America's addiction to credit backfired and we borrowed from ourselves by printing out more money and adding another zero to the deficit. As for comsumer confidence I understand that if my job today pays me the same rate it did 5 years ago, but inflation and the cost of living are on the rise, I would be careful how I spend my money also.
America is at a crossroads. You are going to start see more middleclass crimes being committed due to desperation. More crimes across the board because we people no matter their color are starving we all are human and tend to react the same way. What is needed is to have the smartest minds run the country. People think that a tax break or the stimulus package is going to help, ask yourselves what did you do with your money? Most likely you paid bills that were behind. The dollar isn't going up, look at the stock market after they bail these places out. The market jumps up for one day then it goes down. When countrywide needed bailing out their president cuts himself a check for 160 million. He will leave countrywide to move on to another company to rape it trust me, and we'll pay for it. After people foreclosure on their houses their credit is ruined for atleast 7 yrs, but when they go to rent guess what will be ran, a credit check. Your new rent will be almost as much as your mortgage was due to bad credit. If you couldn't afford the mortgage how do you afford the rent?

Historically anytime there is an economic hiccup we have a war, look it up. I don't blame Bush for the dollar because like I said before he's a puppet. You see the biggest criminals in the country wear suits and run companies. The crazy thing is big companies like KBR, GD,NG are making billions off the war but it's providing 1,000,000 people jobs overseas. Those Americans spend that hard earn money back in the USA. It's taken over the place of small businesses. In the meantime US jobs in the states don't pay well and the citizen struggle to survive.
September 18, 2008 1:55 AM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

Converting honkies one day @ a time...

{{-_-}}
September 18, 2008 5:42 AM
 

theLMNOP said:

rednecks with sense unite! crazy respect for these dudes to not just go with the flow (i'm guessing they've lost friends over something like this - 'the right' can be pretty petty).
September 29, 2008 9:25 PM
 

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