T.I. Attends Cincinnati Trial Over 2006 Murder 
Published Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:39 AM
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    Tai Saint Louis

    One of two men implicated in the murder of T.I.’s childhood friend Philant Johnson went on trial yesterday (November 18) in Cincinnati facing multiple charges including murder and felonious assault.

     

    Authorities spent almost two years investigating the May 2006 chase and shoot out that left Johnson dead and three other individuals in the Grand Hustle camp wounded.

     

    It wasn’t until this past summer that police caught a break, which lead to the arrest of 40-year-old Padron Thomas and 36-year-old Hosea Thomas, who stands on trial alone in the crime.

     

    The elder Thomas brother, along with two others charged with federal gun crimes, contacted officials earlier this year with details of the incident, effectively pointing the finger at Hosea as the killer.

     

    According to Padron Thomas, he and his friends confronted T.I. and his crew over gaining entry to the VIP area at Club Ritz in the Roselawn area of Cincinnati. Following the ensuing fight, the Atlanta-based rapper and his entourage left the scene in two vans.

     

    They were chased by a green Jeep Cherokee, from which the shots were later fired.

     

    Padron Thomas has admitted to driving the vehicle and told authorities that his brother Hosea fired shots at the vans, one which was described as a “horror scene,” with blood and brain matter dripping from the ceiling.

     

    He also claims that at least one member of T.I.’s camp returned fire.

     

    While Hamilton County prosecutor Heather Gosselin indicated in her opening statement that the states case would “come down to witness testimony,” Hosea Thomas’ lawyer Charles Isaly pointed out that the character of those witnesses should be questioned.

     

    He insisted that all of the prosecution’s proposed witnesses are out to paint his client in a negative light in order to obtain reduced sentences for their own crimes.

     

    Padron Thomas’ plea deal has guaranteed that he will serve no time behind bars for his part in the incident.

     

    Prosecutors have allowed him to plead guilty to a reduced charge of manslaughter, dropping the murder charges he originally faced alongside his brother.

     

    They had also agreed to allow him to serve any sentence he receives concurrently with his federal prison sentence.

     

    T.I. is expected to testify in the trial, which will most likely extend into next week.


    Comments

     

    faithwalk said:

    I hope T.I stays out of trouble. He is really a talented artists. He needs to be alive to inspire our kids and his.

    http://faithwalkclothing.blogspot.com/

    November 19, 2008 1:46 AM
     

    Eight Mile Road Music News » T.I. In Court In Cincinnati Over 2006 Murder said:

    November 19, 2008 1:54 AM
     

    ALLday_EVERYday said:

    I think itz kinda fishy that the cops didnt have anything until T.I got knocked.....
    But im not sayin he snitched, but im sure the dudes on trial sure think he did!

    I'd pay to see T.I testify against them dudes..lol  

    Maybe WorldStarHipHop can make that happen?
    November 19, 2008 2:11 AM
     

    FLOWVERINE said:

    FUCK T.I
    November 19, 2008 2:21 AM
     

    DZA36 said:

    T.I. has talent and I truly wish him the best.  It's truly sad that we as human beings have to resort to violence when things don't go our way.  I was one of those who asked what the hell was T.I. thinking when the gun charges were thrown at him, but having the death of a close friend or loved one happen right before your eyes would make me want to arm up as well.  No matter how big your security detail is someone is going to exploit it and find chinks in the armor.  That's probably why so many artist/rappers carry firearms, your security can only do but so much.  Better to place your fate in your own hands.  As a high school counselor I ask young men to atleast explor the option of going into the military and they are quick to say "hell naw!"  But where's the logic?  You like running around in the streets with burners, gats, and ratchets so what's the difference?  I don't know I'm just tired of see brothers and sisters hurt and kill one another. Peace and One1!    
    November 19, 2008 2:22 AM
     

    J.Coop said:

    I comes a point in time where you have to choose. When your famous you have the same people watching you like your a terrorist. So you got be on your p's and q's. ish is messed up nowadays because the media/industry/government is setting the rap artist (us) up.  
    November 19, 2008 2:29 AM
     

    smokey2kone said:

    Man real talk I would of bought all those guns too. He saw a childhood friend get killed right in front of him. Shout outs to the family of the dude killed for real!
    November 19, 2008 2:36 AM
     

    Bertofab said:

    Ambiguous:

    1) open to or having several possible meanings or interpretations; equivocal

    This really is a prime example of an AmbiguousHipHop headline. T.I. was literally in a courtroom because of a murder in 2006, but he was not on trial for said murder. Interesting choice of wording here.
    November 19, 2008 2:38 AM
     

    poe said:

    I never really knew the details of this but it's graphic. keep ya head up TIP!
    November 19, 2008 2:42 AM
     

    Freecode said:

    T.I. buys jewelry from http://www.traxnyc.com
    November 19, 2008 3:16 AM
     

    Alaskan said:

    With the whole gun charge thing I forgot about this. Can't say he wasn't crazy for having all that firepower (shit was straight overkill, seriously) But I can't blame him for having a few after going through that.
    Also can't blame him for wanting to see the dudes that killed him in prison. No such thing as snitching if you're testifying against the person that murdered your best friend.
    November 19, 2008 3:52 AM
     

    mr.201973 said:

    November 19, 2008 4:22 AM
     

    Akaneon1 said:

    Bertofab said:

    Ambiguous:

    1) open to or having several possible meanings or interpretations; equivocal

    This really is a prime example of an AmbiguousHipHop headline. T.I. was literally in a courtroom because of a murder in 2006, but he was not on trial for said murder. Interesting choice of wording here.


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    Pretty much man... it definitely makes it sound like he killed someone in 06
    November 19, 2008 4:27 AM
     

    IRocJs23 said:

    MAN T.I WAS READY FOR WAR.. THATS WHY HE GOT INTO TROUBLE
    November 19, 2008 5:59 AM
     

    Latino Power said:

    Ay what was that shit T.I. said that pissed off all the Chicano MC's?? Im hearing alot of diss records being put out against eh. I heard it was something like T.I. said "All Mexicans should be deported", does anyone know??

    OYE CHECK OUT MY NIGGA JAKE DA GREAT A REAL LATIN MC HEAVY ON THE LYRICS LESS ON THE GIMMICKS, DUDE THAT STRAIGHT HIP HOP. www.myspace.com/jdgistheunderground  
    November 19, 2008 6:56 AM
     

    Supreme Mathematics said:

    I got love for T.I and I think he's a credible artist but things are beginning to look a little bit suspect......
    November 19, 2008 7:00 AM
     

    bigscosha115 said:

    this is routine testifying in a case that involved him and his crew he wants justice served on these dudes for poppin his mans......
    November 19, 2008 7:18 AM
     

    junclassic said:

    That situation was crazy... and they gettin maad descriptive wit the "horror scene talk" and alla that... "brain matter dripping from the ceilling"...

    TI HAD to buy them guns... I was tryin to explain that to this white lady one time... tryin to say TI deserved to be in trouble for what he did... I was like, "You ever get shot at? Ayyite then..."

    If you still open offa Obama winning, vote 4 another brother...

    http://www.urb.com/promotions/next1000/profiles/1277-Junclassic.php

    I appreciate cha!
    November 19, 2008 7:21 AM
     

    Eight Mile Road Music News » T.I. Attends Cincinnati Trial Over 2006 Murder said:

    November 19, 2008 7:28 AM
     

    Topchoice_1 said:

    No matter the outcome...Tip should probably lay low and run his biz for a while...too much bad news about him in the courtrooms lately....
    ..............
    http://www.SouthernRapNews.com
    November 19, 2008 7:59 AM
     

    mu$h da great said:

    after some shit like that happens how are you supposed to feel? you see your friend expire right in front of your eyes. I wouldn't feel safe with just security nether. I'm sure they had some kind of security there that night & look what happened.
    November 19, 2008 8:00 AM
     

    baltimoreson3000 said:

    ALLday_EVERYday said:
    I think itz kinda fishy that the cops didnt have anything until T.I got knocked.....
    But im not sayin he snitched, but im sure the dudes on trial sure think he did!

    I'd pay to see T.I testify against them dudes..lol  

    Maybe WorldStarHipHop can make that happen?
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    If u not saying it, then don't put that out there homey....it says the brothers contacted officials...
    November 19, 2008 8:10 AM
     

    Outlawnation860 said:

    Soundz like every1z tellin on each other.
    November 19, 2008 8:11 AM
     

    dakidreyes7 said:

    lolololol at these niggas giving this guy a pass hahah!!! this nigga is exposed he is a fucking rat!!!!!!! "caught with 12 machine guns only got 12 months"!!!!!!!! this nigga on americas most wanted now takig the witness stand at trials and niggas don't want to see this niggga coped a plea to talk!!! fuck ti he should burn slow this nigga is a clown!!!
    November 19, 2008 8:25 AM
     

    mike06 said:

    damn so all this shyt happens over a seat in VIP?.....thats crazy and the fact that they fought and left and these niggas chased em down is also some crazy shyt.....damn well i hope justice gets served.
    November 19, 2008 8:32 AM
     

    antstacks said:

    @dakidreyes7

    man your pretty ignorant there buddy! you telling me if your best friend was killed in front of you and the cops know that he was because everybody knows the situation and they asked you to tell what happened, just tell what happened because like lil cease n the lil kim case all he is doing is stating the obvious...you telling me you would be like "nah man thats snitching". if you feel that way God bless you and that just shows where your loyalty at.
    November 19, 2008 8:37 AM
     

    sm0ked0ut said:

    Outlawnation860 said:
    Soundz like every1z tellin on each other.




    For real.....
    November 19, 2008 8:39 AM
     

    sm0ked0ut said:

    Outlawnation860 said:
    Soundz like every1z tellin on each other.




    For real.....
    November 19, 2008 8:39 AM
     

    thaman1010 said:

    latino power nobody gives a fuck about mexican or chicano rappers except fucking mexicans. Tell your illegal beaner friends to quit sucking this country's resources up and go back to fucking mexico. They should start picking you cockroaches off at the border anyways. If ti "dissed" some mexicans then good. Nobody listen to fucking mexican rap except those ignorant mexican douche bag gangbangers out in cali. You fucks smell like tacos and ya'll can't dress either.
    November 19, 2008 9:00 AM
     

    thaman1010 said:

    40 and 36 year old men still trying to thug it out....what a waste of flesh they are. What were those old niggas doing up in the club anyways? Fucking washed up old niggas. They should each have their heads chopped off fuck the electric chair. Nobody will miss these worthless pieces of shit.
    November 19, 2008 9:05 AM
     

    dakidreyes7 said:

    Im telling you i would not take the stand! YES i am saying that. If my best friend was killed in front of me i would be on some eye for an eye shit str8 up. if my nigga is dead jail for them niggas who shot him aint justice to me. fruck this clown nigga! he coped a fucking plea for the machine guns now all the sudden there are cases he is testifying in fuck him die slow tip. u choose the street follow the rules you clown.
    November 19, 2008 9:06 AM
     

    dakidreyes7 said:

    im gettibg sick and tired of fake nigas gtting passes because they can spit. TIP with his americas most wanted cameo wezzy and his kissing dudes and fucking lip ring. the game and all his pussy shit, tatto on his face looking like a dick a tongue ring, going on tv shows trying to get a date. he wants to die he don't want to die. this hip hop shit is wack as fuck nowadays these niggas are clowns.  and these niggas get passes and niggas like that nigga game is real that niga wezzy is that nigga hahahahaha fuck these clowns.
    November 19, 2008 9:10 AM
     

    Hip Hop GM said:

    Funny. Niggaz are gangtaz till them boys get yo ass in a closed room and start beatin on the table. T.I. aint no real gunman anyway, he is a fuckin regular ass nigga who can't take that kinda pressure. Of course he is a snitch, from now on he will be that cause they got his ass on paper for them guns. His name will be forever on the list of FBI Informants. So all you fans can continue to be fans but face the reality, he is a rat. T.I. The Bull.

    Yall ATL niggaz better be careful out there.
    November 19, 2008 9:12 AM
     

    MrEPVet said:

    It's funny how everyone is calling TI a snitch. If your best friend was killed in front of you, you would take the stand too. And if you wouldn't, what kind of friend are you to not want justice for a dead homey. People talking eye for and eye. Your dumb ass would be in jail too. Grow up people. Its ok to tell.
    November 19, 2008 9:28 AM
     

    God MC said:

    I'm gonna call it like it is.  TI Clifford Harris is a fuckin RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Period, and I don't want to hear he testifying as a witness to the event, when in reality he is telling on these dudes because it was part of his plea deal in his Federal Case.  In which telling on someone to lessen ur crime makes u a FUCKING RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am not a gangsta, or a hardbody street dude I am a everyday citizen who goes to work, pay bills and takes care of his kid.  But I do know niggas who from the trap and represent that lifestyle don't live by a different set of rules, and they don't rat for no reason.  I could it understand if TI was testifying as a victim, but he's once refused to cooperate with authorities on this case.  Once he got in some shit personally with the feds, now he rattin on these niggas!!!!!!!!!

    TI is the pure definition of a RAT, great rapper but he most defiently lost all credibility for this PERIOD.

    Once again, if you are a victim of a senseless crime, as a direct victim or a family or loved one grieving you can go to the police and etc because you aren't implicating someone to save ur own ass.  But when u are doing as TI is is doing, telling on someone for their illegal actions to keep yourself out of jail YOU ARE A SNITCH, RAT PERIOD.  Everyone is saying that was his mans etc, but he refused to cooperate with authorities before his legal matters and than all of a sudden he is cooperating once he got into some shit himself.  THAT MY FRIENDS MAKES U A RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FUCK TI, I feel so bad for Meek Millz he running with A SNITCH ASS BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    November 19, 2008 9:32 AM
     

    mike06 said:

    it's funny no one is even sayin shyt about dudes own BROTHER who actually SNITCHED to get a lesser sentence, something TI aint do(in BOTH CASES) AND IS ONLY TESTIFYING BECUZ HE WAS THERE...COMMON FUCKIN SENSE.....yall niggas is ass backwards up in here, and it's crazy the way some of ya'll think
    November 19, 2008 9:34 AM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    Did I read this right???He told on his BROTHER???? SMH @ these so-called killas.... Not only is HIP HOP dead..The G-Code has been shot in the stomach and knee-caps and is dying a slow, agonizing, death.
    ...Real Brothers diming on real brothers...

    "Death B4 Dishonor"
    November 19, 2008 9:35 AM
     

    Davy da prince said:

    Alot of e-thugs on here. If u aint neve been in a street situation pliz keep ur opinion abt snitching to urself. Live ur life.
    November 19, 2008 9:35 AM
     

    LEXXBROWN(BAHAMAS) said:

    WHAT UP ALLHIPHOP FAM...

    NOW STR8 UP T.I CUT A DEAL WITH THE FEDS FROM DAY ONE.

    T.I WAS SUPPOSE TO GET LIKE 20 YEARS FOR THAT OFFENCE BECAUSE HE WAS A CONVICTED BEFORE.

    THE STREETS GOING TO CALL IT SNICTING I EVEN CALL IT SNICTHING BECAUSE ITS AGAINST THE STREET CODE.

    NOW WHO SHOULD T.I CHOSE? THE STREETS OR FREEDOM?
    IF HE FOLLOW THE STREETS HE WILL BE BACK IN LIKE 20 YEARS, IF HE FOLLOW THE FEDS HE MAY BE OUT FOR NEXT CHRISTMAS. ALSO THE GUY HAS KIDS THAT NEED HIM..

    I WOULD FOLLOW THE FEDS. WHY? WE NEED MORE BLACK FATHERS AT HOME WITH THEIR KIDS.  TO MANY OF MY FRIENDS ARE IN JAIL NOW AND CANT SPEND THAT TIME GROWING UP THEIR KIDS.

    LETS DONT BREAK T.I DOWN BECAUSE IF THOSE THOMAS BROTHERS DID THE CRIME DO THE TIME.

    T.I YOUR SNICTING BUT HURRY UP WITH THIS AND COME OUT AND GROW THOSE KIDS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE RIGHT DIRRECTION.

    EVERYONE "LIVE YOUR LIFE"

    HOLLA @ http://www.myspace.com/lexxbrown
    November 19, 2008 9:39 AM
     

    Haughville said:

    fuck t.i., the image....i dont mind the dudes music, but i do have a problem with the way he has flipped...one minute u spewin' all that tuff/real shit...next minute u on the stand pointin' niggas out....BITCH NIGGA!

    how do you go from this?
    "He also claims that at least one member of T.I.’s camp returned fire."

    to this!
    "T.I. is expected to testify in the trial, which will most likely extend into next week."

    everyone say it with me....mc 5k1!
    November 19, 2008 9:42 AM
     

    MrEPVet said:

    @ God MC

    TI didnt snitch, if you read the article. The brothers told on each other to save their on ass.

    "The elder Thomas brother, along with two others charged with federal gun crimes, contacted officials earlier this year with details of the incident, effectively pointing the finger at Hosea as the killer."

    Plus TI's federal case has nothing to do with a state murder case. The feds are not going to give you a plea deal because you may know something about a state murder case.
    November 19, 2008 9:43 AM
     

    GHOST17404 said:

    Padron Thomas’ plea deal has guaranteed that he will serve no time behind bars for his part in the incident.   How do you take part of a murder and guaranteed to get no time behind bars.  Even if you give up your brother?  Did he give up Pablo Escobar?  
    November 19, 2008 9:46 AM
     

    God MC said:

    mike06 said:
    it's funny no one is even sayin shyt about dudes own BROTHER who actually SNITCHED to get a lesser sentence, something TI aint do(in BOTH CASES) AND IS ONLY TESTIFYING BECUZ HE WAS THERE...COMMON FUCKIN SENSE.....yall niggas is ass backwards up in here, and it's crazy the way some of ya'll think

    ^^^^^ Bruh, I could care less about dudes brother he a fucking rat too.  But TI is the one we all know in the hip hop community.  But TI testifying about the events that went on gives the prosecution motive against the defendant, which easily puts him as the best suspect to point the finger at in the case.  Giving a jury motive and pointing and say I saw him do it is just the same damaging wise bruh.  TI, is a fucking RAT, dude seriously.  Look up the case when it happened back in 2006 he INITIALLY REFUSED TO COOPERATE WITH CINCINNATI AUTHORITIES.  Once he got knocked by the feds, he agreed to cooperate as part of his plea deal.  Also check how after TI got arrested and settled his plea deal these men were picked up on murder charges a year after the crime?  Now he is testifying come'on NIGGA Stevie Wonder can tell you, TI dimed these niggas out and now he testifying.  He initially refused to cooperate, and once he got booked for his own shit he agreed to testify against these men as part of his plea deal.  That my friend makes you a RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  TI being a man who represents the street code, and embodies it in his persona has no need to take the stand unless it's a crime on a citizen, child or elderly person.  Anything that is street related u keep it that, STREET RELATED!!!!!!!!!  And for the fact he is pointing these men out, after he was booked on federal charges make him even MORE OF A FUCKING SNITCH!!!!!!!!!  Yall niggas got the game twisted, TI is a fucking RAT and I can never take him serious whatsoever again.  Sorry Clifford Harris but u are a fucking FRAUD.
    November 19, 2008 9:50 AM
     

    God MC said:

    MrEPVet said:
    @ God MC

    TI didnt snitch, if you read the article. The brothers told on each other to save their on ass.

    "The elder Thomas brother, along with two others charged with federal gun crimes, contacted officials earlier this year with details of the incident, effectively pointing the finger at Hosea as the killer."

    ^^^^

    Just because one nigga came out and ratted on the situation doesn't give u the right to take the stand and cooperate as well.  Any statements, testimony that you give that helps a DA or prosecutor's case to put someone behind bars is SNITCHING bruh no way around it.  U can take the 5th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, this is a street situation it should remain in the street period.  Now if this is a citizen, child or elderly getting harmed, yes they are victims u can take the stand against them because they are exempt from the street culture.  But when u take the stand against a street nigga, and u a street nigga on some street nigga shit you are a fucking RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! period.  I don't care about them other niggas, they rats too period.  We talking TI, he's a rat, just as much as the brother is a RAT.

    If someone harmed my kids, family I would tell on them in a heartbeat.  I'm a CITIZEN, CIVILLIAN I have that right i don't live by that code.  But when u run the streets, and claim to be a street nigga, unless someone did something to children, citizen or elderly you keep ur fucking mouth shut period.  And to my man who said Feds won't help out a state case, ur wrong.  The feds and state do work together to bring someone to justice as best fit.  The feds can turn u over to the state, and the state can turn you over to the feds, whatever way they think they can get the most out of the deal they will do it.  I had a cousin, who was captured by the feds, and since the Feds aint have a great case against him.  They turned him over to the state, in which he was convicted and is serving life behind bars.  The feds, felt it was best to make TI a activist against inner city crime instead of throwing his ass behind bars.  But in that deal, they could easily say hey u have to cooperate in that murder of ur best friend in Cincinnati too.  

    Remember TI once refused to cooperate with Ohio police, once he got booked for his fed case he now agress to testify.  I know u might like TI, I do too but dude u got to call a spade a spade.  HE A FUCKING RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    November 19, 2008 10:00 AM
     

    tiny_nok87 said:

    Ay TIP doin too much fa da Gov!!!
    November 19, 2008 10:02 AM
     

    dakidreyes7 said:

    T I is taking the stand!!!!!!!!! wake the fuck up this nigga copped a plea. who gives a fuck about the brother telling yallniggas ne3ed to stop maskin this HE IS TAKINGTHE STAND and going to give his version of the events. If u from the street like this clown portrayed YOU DON'T FUCKING DO THAT END OF STORY!!!!!!!!!! its a wrap with for this nigga in my eyes. wll never take him seriously again,.
    November 19, 2008 10:04 AM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    Sooooo, let me get this straight?  T.I> is supposed to keep it street and handle it outside of the system? Say, pay some goons to seek revenge for Philant's death? What would Philant's family say if TI didn't even come to court to offer his story? Your best homey was murdered as a result of your entourage holding court in the VIP section and Jealous haters wanted to set it and you pretend to know nothing? I know it seems cool to seek revenge on a street level but remember, this man has had his share of legal troubles. If he was not willing to do the "hit" by himself, the last thing you need is someone ratting him out as the sponsor for some contract killing. I mean, the Cam'ron/60 Minutes " no snitching" story comes to mind. Child molestors, serial killers and cold murderers get away because you have some code to live by. It doesn't apply in those instances. I mean, if you're an entertainer and want a career in that lane, then by all means, stay there. If you want to live the gangster/thug life then do it. But don't bring along writers, cameramen, childhood friends to be casualties in a world you are not prepared to dwell in. It's not a sound business model for those seeking lasting wealth.

    We out!
    November 19, 2008 10:25 AM
     

    LEXXBROWN(BAHAMAS) said:

    THIS WILL KILL HIS STREET CREED, BUT IN THE END "JUST LIVE YOUR LIFE" THATS ALL WE CAN DO.
    November 19, 2008 10:28 AM
     

    GARDENGROVER said:


    thaman1010 said:
    latino power nobody gives a fuck about mexican or chicano rappers except fucking mexicans. Tell your illegal beaner friends to quit sucking this country's resources up and go back to fucking mexico. They should start picking you cockroaches off at the border anyways. If ti "dissed" some mexicans then good. Nobody listen to fucking mexican rap except those ignorant mexican douche bag gangbangers out in cali. You fucks smell like tacos and ya'll can't dress either.




    WOW you really sound an ignorant jackass. I guarantee if I were face to face with you you wouldn't be saying this nonsense. Now just because you're a middle age, lonely, balding man who spends his time on internet forums disrespecting other people's cultures does not mean that you have the right to say anything in a demeaning manner towards Mexicans. And by the way, my family has been in the Garden Grove area since this was Mexico ;)

    November 19, 2008 10:31 AM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

    dakidreyes7 said:
    lolololol at these niggas giving this guy a pass hahah!!! this nigga is exposed he is a fucking rat!!!!!!! "caught with 12 machine guns only got 12 months"!!!!!!!! this nigga on americas most wanted now takig the witness stand at trials and niggas don't want to see this niggga coped a plea to talk!!! fuck ti he should burn slow this nigga is a clown!!!  


    LET ME GUESS.....YOU A STREET CAT RIGHT?.........DUDE AN EYE 4 AN EYE? ITS FUCKED UP NIGGAZ LIKE YOU THAT KEEPS ON KILLING HIS OWN PEOPLE!!!!! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE CODE OF THE STREETS........ITS A MYTH! HIS PLEA AGREEMENT IS PUBLIC RECORD............IF YOU CAN READ.........YOU SHOULD READ IT!!!!!!
    November 19, 2008 10:40 AM
     

    reno nevada said:

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    i had forgot about the trial. brothers snitching on each other that's crazy!!! his mama gon' beat his ass. hope this works out and they get punished accordingly

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    November 19, 2008 10:44 AM
     

    God MC said:

    v4vendetta said:

    I mean, the Cam'ron/60 Minutes " no snitching" story comes to mind. Child molestors, serial killers and cold murderers get away because you have some code to live by

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Homey I agree what Cam'ron said was dumb as fuck, child molesters have no protection under the code, nor a serial killer of civillians or citizens.  But TI is a rat for the simple fact he initially refused to cooperate in 2006 and once the Feds got him he agreed to cooperate.  Cooperating with police, in a deal to lessen your sentence is a pure definition of a rat, snitch.  Period yall niggas who defending this shit, aint got no idea how the streets work.  And TI claims he represents the streets and embodies it so he had to uphold the codes, if not he a fucking fraud.
    November 19, 2008 10:47 AM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

    @ THOSE FRONTIN ON TIP CALLIN HIM A SNITCH!!!!

    HIS PLEA DEAL IS PUBLIC RECORD........FIND IT AND READ IT!!!!! AND "WHO" DID HE SNITCH ON? CAN ANY1 TELL ME THAT? NO! I ADMIT I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE ODD WHEN IT WENT DOWN.........BUT AFTER LOOKIN DEEP INTO THE CASE DUDE GOT A LIGIT BREAK! LET THE NIGGA LIVE! ALL YA'LL SOCALLED STREET/HOOD NIGGAZ GOT THE GAME FUCKED UP! INSTEAD OF SAYIN WOW......THAT NIGGAZ LEGAL TEAM WAS ON FIRE.........YOU SAY THAT NIGGA IS A RAT. GROW THE FUCK UP! TIP GOT KIDS AND A WIFE. TIP GOT REASONS TO LIVE! MAYBE YOU DONT! YA'LL CAN CALL IT WHAT YALL WANNA CALL IT........I CAN DETECT A HATER WHEN I SEE 1......OR2.......OR 3!!

    IF ANY1 CAN TELL ME WHO HE SNITCHED ON AND HOW MUCH TIME THEY GOT AND THE CHARGES AGAINST THOSE HE TOLD ON I WILL SHOW YALL SOME REAL NIGGA RESPECT..........UNTIL THEN.....FUCK YA'LL!!!! TIP DOIN HIS THANG LIKE IT OR NOT!!!!!

    ATLANTA GA!!!!!!!!! ZONE 1-6!!!!!!!!!!! STAND UP!
    November 19, 2008 10:52 AM
     

    T.I. To Testify In Trial Over His Murder Friend · SickHop - The Sickest HipHop Site in The World! said:

    November 19, 2008 10:55 AM
     

    canarydon said:

    T.I. ain't did shit wrong here...we not there to say he snitchin'...but that "T.I.P" commerical for the news station was ugly suspect...still like em' though
    November 19, 2008 10:59 AM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

     @God MC

    WOW..........DUDE THE SOCALLED CODE OF THE STREETS IS A FUCKIN MYTH!!!!! I CAME UP IN THE A-TOWN....ZONE 3!!!!IN THE 80'S AND EARLY 90S! ITS SURVIVIAL OF THE FITTEST!!!! NO CODE! NO HONOR EXSIST IN THE STREETS! SURE THERE ARE SOME "UNDERSTANDINGS" BUT NO CODE!!!!! TIP GOT FIRE ASS LEGAL ADVISE!!!!! ALL BECAUSE SOME1 YOU KNOW GOT SENT UP FOR BEING A DUMB ASS WITH A LAZY PUBLIC DEFFENDER DONT MEAN SHIT!!!!!! YOU CAN COME UP WITH ALL THE SO CALLED STREET RULES YOU CAN THINK OF......BUT IN THE END....NON OF IT MEANS A DAMN THING!!!! GROW UP AND BREAK OUT OF THAT HOOD NIGGA STATE OF MIND!!!!!! YOU WILL NEVER ELEVATE TO A HIGHER STATE UNTIL YOU DO SO!!!!!
    November 19, 2008 11:02 AM
     

    God MC said:

    MRGODBYROAD said:
    IF ANY1 CAN TELL ME WHO HE SNITCHED ON AND HOW MUCH TIME THEY GOT AND THE CHARGES AGAINST THOSE HE TOLD ON I WILL SHOW YALL SOME REAL NIGGA RESPECT..........UNTIL THEN.....FUCK YA'LL!!!! TIP DOIN HIS THANG LIKE IT OR NOT!!!!!

    ^^^^^^^^^
    Anyone who takes the stand for the benefit of the prosecution and doesn't plead the 5th is a snitch.  By getting on the stand and telling the situation that happened that night, TI, is giving the defendant a motive to committ the crime.  Which in it's self makes the prosecutions case stroner, which damages the the defense's case which in a way is SNITCHING.

    I know u from Atlanta, and u want to go to Magic City and dickride TIP when u see him at Lennox Mall etc but ur man is a SNITCH PERIOD BRUH.  Anytime u take the stand for the prosecution wether it is fingering someone, or retelling events you are SNITCHING their is no in between or middle ground.  U take the stand for the prosecution to make their case stronger u snitching bruh.



    November 19, 2008 11:03 AM
     

    tbirdandkoolaid said:

    @ God MC
    ------------------------

    you're right, folk. I said this since he took that 'plea'. FEDS don't give a fuck about money, they want info. you can not get caught with guns let alone fully's and be a felon and walk with a bullet..haha


    if you're a tax paying cizten it's your right to talk to the police, you're paying their salary....now if you're a so called 'trapper', hustler's, whatever it's called now a days. you don't talk under no circumstance.

    in his defense (i don't condone it at all, you do the crime you do the time) he;s got a 'career' and didn't want to do that bid of ten years so why not...the people will still accept him because he have 'talent'...i wonder when he look in the mirror what he see...he's prolly been working for them anyway...'7 time felon'

    the game been dead anyway...i doubt i buy an album from him...


    "and your son gotta grow up like, "This is my dad?"
    The labelling of a snitch is a lifetime scar
    You'll always be in jail nigga, just minus the bars"
    November 19, 2008 11:16 AM
     

    tbirdandkoolaid said:

    I like how people defend him....if you did a crime you do the time..a man takes responsibility, it's not a STREET CODE it's a human code...a man takes responsibility

    I get in trouble, but if a I do A and can be 'free' or take responsibility and suffer the consequence...
    November 19, 2008 11:19 AM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    @GODMC.
    TI is not a fraud he is an entertainer. Like most hard rappers. Yes, he's from ATL and trapped a little, but let's face it, kids, he's no superthug. At the end of the day, most rappers just want to get money, smoke some green, escape death and ride off into the sunset with the flyest Chick! I think you all put too much weight on his lyrics and hold him to some street standard which, for all intents and purposes, was shattered when Divine Evil passed the "Kingpin" statutes. Don't take those songs so literally. You want a street thug to inspire you? Look no further than the trapster on an Avenue or Corner near you. But by no means, expect some rapper to be this paragon of supreme gangsterism. And like the others said, read the friggin' plea agreement if you want to know more about his deal.

    We out!
    November 19, 2008 11:20 AM
     

    MrEPVet said:

    @GOD MC

    You need to grow up bruh. Its nothing wrong to telling on someone. If you listen to your logic, everyone in America is a snitch......And if you preach no snitching in the pass. Who's to say you can't change your position.
    November 19, 2008 11:22 AM
     

    God MC said:

    tbirdandkoolaid said:
    in his defense (i don't condone it at all, you do the crime you do the time) he;s got a 'career' and didn't want to do that bid of ten years so why not...the people will still accept him because he have 'talent'...i wonder when he look in the mirror what he see...he's prolly been working for them anyway...'7 time felon'

    ^^^^^^^^ Yeah I understand why any nigga snitch, u see the time and u freeze up.  But like u said only has to answer to nobody, me or anyone here debating about this but he's a RAT and i'm finally glad I see a nigga who feel what i'm saying.  Me, or any other tax paying citizen can go to police and the judicial system because we are the citizens and the laws are here to protect us.  But TI is endorsing the life of a street nigga through his music, which means he has to stand by his code and ethics and for him to bend them makes him a fraud.  I aint saying don't go buy a TI CD, or don't like him more just call a spade a spade the nigga is a RAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

    In other news, when the next TI CD come out I prolly will purchase it lol, but do I know he a RAT now yup. It is what it is
    November 19, 2008 11:27 AM
     

    Young Train said:

    Akaneon1 said:
    Bertofab said:

    Ambiguous:

    1) open to or having several possible meanings or interpretations; equivocal

    This really is a prime example of an AmbiguousHipHop headline. T.I. was literally in a courtroom because of a murder in 2006, but he was not on trial for said murder. Interesting choice of wording here.


    ---------------------------------------------------------

    Pretty much man... it definitely makes it sound like he killed someone in 06
    November 19, 2008 4:27 AM


    ---------------------------------------------------------
    T.I. Attends Cincinnati Trial Over 2006 Murder
    The keywod is ATTENDS we are just negativity lovers... I almost tohught the same shit until I thought about the situation. We so used to seeing rappers on trial its hard to believe a rapper was just watching one lol

    November 19, 2008 11:27 AM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

    @ God MC
    his best friend was murdered!!!!! sad to know know my people still think that way! sad!
    November 19, 2008 11:27 AM
     

    God MC said:

    "and your son gotta grow up like, "This is my dad?"
    The labelling of a snitch is a lifetime scar
    You'll always be in jail nigga, just minus the bars"

    ^^^^^^^^^^ Classic Line
    November 19, 2008 11:28 AM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

    if some1 killed some1 in your fam you wouldnt say shit?.......if not.......well.........you got a serious problem! grow up.
    November 19, 2008 11:29 AM
     

    tbirdandkoolaid said:

    I remember as a child don't be a tellatale. i remember being told take responsibility for your actions. i remember being told the so called 'code'. all these makes me the man i am. i'm not 'street' and don't claimed to be, i see a total lack of responsibility. that's what being a RAT is, plain and simple.

    that's what GODMC is trying to say. ti refused to 'talk' when it happen, only after he caught that gun case he had a change of heart...he's not doing it cause it's RIGHT, he's doing to save his ass. it's ok though, right? then we wonder why we're all fucked up.

    total lack of responsibility
    November 19, 2008 11:35 AM
     

    God MC said:

    MrEPVet said:
    @GOD MC

    You need to grow up bruh. Its nothing wrong to telling on someone.

    ^^^^^ Citizens and Civillians are exempt from the no snitching rule.  If you are a tax paying citizen, you can talk to police as much as u please.  Because you don't live by the code of the streets, but when you advertise urself as a street nigga, and promote that nonsense in ur music you are leading those to believe that is your life.  If TI is a street nigga as he claims than he is a rat for taking the stand to help the prosecution, period.  Everyone who tells isn't a snitch becuase everyone who tells isn't a street nigga and doesn't do dealing within the street culture.  People who are citizens have a right to deal with police and cooperate for the simple fact they are their to protect them, but when u are a hood nigga, you just don't let street matters get handled by police and u defiently don't rat on a nigga to plea ur way out of a case.  That is a rat trying to survive and it's not genuine.  Cops let these rats get away to bring another man down, when in reality they should both be locked up.  I don't condone snitching because, snitching promotes the shit thats going on.  Because u let another man continue to do what he doing, in order to catch another nigga.  That logic will never end, the shit thats goes on in our hoods because ur not getting both of them.

      MRGODBYROAD said:
    @ God MC
    his best friend was murdered!!!!! sad to know know my people still think that way! sad

    ^^^
    Why didn't TI cooperate with police from the beginning?  He initially refused to cooperate with police, because he was being  a so called street nigga.  Once he got into some shit, he starts helping prosecution, that my friend is the definition of a SNITCH!!!!!!!!!!!  U are telling on someone else to lessen ur time, TI is just as much of a danger to society than this man who is on trial.  TI had enough guns to to supply a Rambo movie nigga, u telling me he isn't a threat to society becuase he nice behind a mic and this other nigga is a bum ass nigga on the corner?

    FUCK OUT OF HERE NIGGA
    November 19, 2008 11:36 AM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    So the prosecution who wants to put this piece of Sh*t away for life is the incarnate of evil? This sludgeball should be taken out of circulation. Imagine if we didn't have prisons and the court system? The streets would be filled with vermin scum predators. I'd be picking them off with my 308 Winchester everyday. When you kill an innocent man in cold blood because he was balling out in a VIP section of a friggin niteclub, those hood rules don't apply! You don't go around murdering people because they are fly or look better than you. You don't get points for that. Any idiot can pull a trigger.
    And it's not gangsta to be quiet, that's just being stupid. An injustice to Philant's death.

    We out!
    November 19, 2008 11:37 AM
     

    tbirdandkoolaid said:

    After he 'plead' out I knew right then and there I wasn't buying his CD. The snitch has been glorified and as someone who try to live 'right' I refuse to support certain actions. I didn't buy Sammy the bull book..I hate RATS, real shit. I do.
    November 19, 2008 11:39 AM
     

    God MC said:

    MRGODBYROAD said:
    if some1 killed some1 in your fam you wouldnt say shit?.......if not.......well.........you got a serious problem! grow up.

    ^^^^

    Yes I would tell, IM A FUCKING CITIZEN, I GO TO WORK, I PAY BILLS I DON'T PUT MYSELF OUT THERE AS A QUOTE UNQUOTE STREET NIGGA.  I don't promote that lifestyle to youth, or use it to my advantage to establish power or wealth.  I REPEAT IF U ARE A FUCKING CITIZEN OR CIVILLIAN U CAN COOPERATE WITH POLICE, BE A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PERSON OR WHATEVER THE FUCK U WANT TO DO TO KEEP UR STREETS CLEAN AND SAFE.   Buf if u are a street/hood nigga who live and embody what the street is, u don't take the stand to help the PROSECUTION IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM PERIOD.  

    I REPEAT FOR THE LAST TIME IF U ARE A FUCKING CITIZEN OR CIVILLIAN U CAN COOPERATE WITH POLICE, BE A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PERSON OR WHATEVER THE FUCK U WANT TO DO TO KEEP UR STREETS CLEAN AND SAFE.
    November 19, 2008 11:40 AM
     

    WILLY KILLEM? said:

    FUCK THEM NIGGAS!!
    HANG THEM NIGGAS!!

    40?
    36?

    Them coward ass niggas KNOW they TOO GOTDAMN OLD to be up in a club actin' a fool....smh at head at these type of niggas that NEVER seem to have grown up....old ass men startin' fights in a young folk club.

    I SAY FUCK 'EM!!

    R.I.P BIG PHIL (Sorry you had to die because of jealous OLD Men)
    November 19, 2008 11:43 AM
     

    mrmarcus619 said:

    MRGODBYROAD said:
    @God MC

    WOW..........DUDE THE SOCALLED CODE OF THE STREETS IS A FUCKIN MYTH!!!!! I CAME UP IN THE A-TOWN....ZONE 3!!!!IN THE 80'S AND EARLY 90S! ITS SURVIVIAL OF THE FITTEST!!!! NO CODE! NO HONOR EXSIST IN THE STREETS! SURE THERE ARE SOME "UNDERSTANDINGS" BUT NO CODE!!!!! TIP GOT FIRE ASS LEGAL ADVISE!!!!! ALL BECAUSE SOME1 YOU KNOW GOT SENT UP FOR BEING A DUMB ASS WITH A LAZY PUBLIC DEFFENDER DONT MEAN SHIT!!!!!! YOU CAN COME UP WITH ALL THE SO CALLED STREET RULES YOU CAN THINK OF......BUT IN THE END....NON OF IT MEANS A DAMN THING!!!! GROW UP AND BREAK OUT OF THAT HOOD NIGGA STATE OF MIND!!!!!! YOU WILL NEVER ELEVATE TO A HIGHER STATE UNTIL YOU DO SO!!!!!



    That's 100% homie..niggaz alway flappin they yams about street code and honor...ain't no honor among theives...hell, i guess TIP shpilda just grabbed a choppa and handled it himself according to most of these cats on here...then ya'll would call him dumb for doin that shit..
    November 19, 2008 11:44 AM
     

    tbirdandkoolaid said:

    @  v4vendetta:
    And it's not gangsta to be quiet, that's just being stupid. An injustice to Philant's death.
    -------------------------------

    if that's the case why didn't ti "cooperate' in the beginning. he waited two years and 10 fully's later. he's not looking for justice for his homeboy and that's even more sad. only after he saw 10 years FED time, he decided to help bring his homeboy's killer to face the courtroom.
    November 19, 2008 11:45 AM
     

    ZUBU said:

    Wow, one of them niggas snitched on his own fucking brother! WTF is the world coming to? Not sure why the police couldn't figure this shit out before the niggas snitched on his brother.

    "Am I my brothers keeper? Hell fucking no."
    November 19, 2008 12:03 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    @tbird.. Hey, isn't that murder of Philant a state crime and not Federal? TI's gun charges were federal. Apples and Oranges. So when you talk of deals being cut, you have to cite me the specific terms of his agreement. Otherwise, it's just frenzied speculation. And you don't know what went through TI's mind in those two years. He's matured and wants to live. He's got family. Again, it's not gangsta to shoot and murder dudes out of sheer jealousy! The whole community would be better off testifying against this low-life piece of filth!!

    We out!
    November 19, 2008 12:07 PM
     

    rocafellareppin said:

    niggers
    November 19, 2008 12:09 PM
     

    This nicca snitched on his brother...T.I. shooting - Hip-Hop Hideout said:

    November 19, 2008 12:12 PM
     

    General Don said:

    What you clowns don't realize, in the midst of your snitch labeling campaign, is TI IS a tax paying citizen.  LOL

    November 19, 2008 12:16 PM
     

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    November 19, 2008 12:20 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    Lastly, I must say this.. If you know there is a speakeasy on your block, ok, none of my business. Same goes for a weed spot. Or the local stick-up kid finally got his and got murked. Or a rapist who ended up dead. I can see how some might look the other way. But a 5 yearold child being killed or some other senseless killing.. SPEAK OUT! They have tiplines if you don't do the court thing. If the quality of your life has degraded as a result of scumbags pervading your neighborhood, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, DON'T JUST SIT THERE, DO SOMETHING! THINK OF THE CHILDREN ALONG WITH THE RISK OF YOUR HOME BEING DEVALUED.

    WE OUT!
    November 19, 2008 12:26 PM
     

    loch121 said:

    @MRGODBYRD.Now I rep the A.I been following Tip's career since the first album.I don't know what happened,but as afelon myself that case is fishy dog.I'm not gone say he snitched,but ,Mike vick,the white dude from prison break,even Robert Downy jr,got more time for their crimes and had no criminal records.I hope he didn't,but it's suspect.I never heard of getting a year break from jail,then you go.

    @The folks who say testifying in his friends trial is snitching.I can't agree.If you weren't part of the crime with the people you tell on it's not snitching unless it's none of your business.Once somebody dies all the facts gone come out anyway.The niggas in the car with him are the snitches.
    November 19, 2008 12:30 PM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    @everyone that says that the Feds wont work with State....What courts have you all been in?? For the Thomas brother, they already said that he could serve Fed and State time Concurrent....Which means that there is some cooperation at the state on the Thomas brother, so his fed charge would be served.

    Read Donald Goines "White Mans Justice..Black Mans Grief"

    Second, all the money in the world cant get these White Execs out of jail (Enron, Adelphia, Martha Stewart), and they hundreds of millions.You think TI's got that kind of money and still has money. Let alone Big Meech and his team ($250 Million)

    This country has indicted\charged\prosecuted a sitting US President!!!! But not TI??? I dont know his personal situation, but there are rules to this thing that they call justice...And lawyers (or knowlegdheable people) are needed to navigate this maze of them.

    Finally, If TI states he was there as a witness...then he will have to testify about someone from his team volleying hotballs. becauz he has to be a credible witness.

    There is a reason that they say dont make a deal with the devil. It is never paid til he has your ENTIRE soul.

    Death B4 Dishonor
    November 19, 2008 12:33 PM
     

    loch121 said:

    I MEANT THEM NIGGAS AS IN THE NIGGAS IN THE CAR WITH THE SHOOTER ARE THE SNITCHES.WE NEED TO STOP KILLIN EACHOTHER AND SNITCHIN ON EACH OTHER.THERE IS A CODE TO THE STREETS NIGGAS JUST DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT IT.

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    November 19, 2008 12:35 PM
     

    tbirdandkoolaid said:

    @  v4vendetta

    -----------------------

    you're right. after two years of living the high life, i get popped by the FEDS, damn 10 years, no Prole. fuck what I should do....oh, yeah remember my homeboy got killed, i know who might have done it. FEDS love info. that's they business. FEDS and STATE can be friends.

    remember that fire ass legal team he had, they also represented lewis and what did lewis do...you see certain firms deal with cooperator and others don't... i wish ti the best, in all realness. hope he teach his children to take responsibility for their actions


    i'm done..
    November 19, 2008 12:36 PM
     

    HOT97 said:

    O fuck T.I.--These rappers are so tough in there music and in real life they are very soft and Pink..
    November 19, 2008 12:42 PM
     

    tbirdandkoolaid said:

    ok i lied. vick got two years for funding a dog fighting opreation. if he gave info on certain people (we all know who participate in this activity) he wouldv'e got probation, one year ban for football, forfiet some cash, PSA, etc.

    ti felon, get caught with guns, fully's (machine guns), silencer, and get ONLY a bullet. oh i forgot he had a fire ass legal time....why didn't i think of that
    November 19, 2008 12:44 PM
     

    tbirdandkoolaid said:

    Possessing or transferring a machine gun is punishable by up to 10 years in prison

    -----------

    if he got popped with a pistol and got off with a bullet, yeah I chop that off to his mouthpiece, folk had fully's and silencer...2+2=4....i have nothing against him, i've been listening to him for awhile now...i see bullshit and call it..


    i'm really done, though
    November 19, 2008 12:50 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    S.N.I.T.C.H=

    Sorry
    Niggaz
    Informing
    The
    Cops on
    Happenings..

    LOL. Sorry, I couldn't resist that one. That's original.
    Nicky Barnes was called a snitch because he turned. But when he didn't turn and did his time, he found out his man was screwing his wife! So he's like, why am I sitting here keeping it real and loyal, while my people are not loyal to me. And they eating good. F- that, Im gonna sing.. And he is now out of prison in a witness protection program with a new life. I say, Go Nicky. 'Cause at the end of the day, you are alone. You weren't born with your homeboys attached to your hip. Your freedom is essential. No ni99a gonna have me doing football numbers while he runs free. I like living and ladies too..



    November 19, 2008 1:04 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    That thunderbird and Koolaid combo must be a  killer cocktail!! LOL.
    November 19, 2008 1:07 PM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

      God MC said:
    MRGODBYROAD said:
    if some1 killed some1 in your fam you wouldnt say shit?.......if not.......well.........you got a serious problem! grow up.

    ^^^^

    Yes I would tell, IM A FUCKING CITIZEN, I GO TO WORK, I PAY BILLS I DON'T PUT MYSELF OUT THERE AS A QUOTE UNQUOTE STREET NIGGA.  I don't promote that lifestyle to youth, or use it to my advantage to establish power or wealth.  I REPEAT IF U ARE A FUCKING CITIZEN OR CIVILLIAN U CAN COOPERATE WITH POLICE, BE A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PERSON OR WHATEVER THE FUCK U WANT TO DO TO KEEP UR STREETS CLEAN AND SAFE.   Buf if u are a street/hood nigga who live and embody what the street is, u don't take the stand to help the PROSECUTION IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM PERIOD.  

    I REPEAT FOR THE LAST TIME IF U ARE A FUCKING CITIZEN OR CIVILLIAN U CAN COOPERATE WITH POLICE, BE A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PERSON OR WHATEVER THE FUCK U WANT TO DO TO KEEP UR STREETS CLEAN AND SAFE.


    lololololol!!!! whats the fuckin difference!!! people are people.............period!!!! people kill me tryin to justify stupid actions!!!!! grow up!
    November 19, 2008 1:11 PM
     

    BigKay said:

    Yall talkin bout Ti snitching. Homeboy brother is the one doing the snitching. Damn that fool snitched on his own brother.
    November 19, 2008 1:17 PM
     

    Theyztenz said:

    Ya'll bitches calling T.I. a snitch for testifying at the trial of the dudes who killed his BEST friend??  You faggots need to get off the computer and get a damn life.  NONE of you bitches are from the streets...NONE.  Ya'll learn the term snitch and now ya'll think ya'll some G's.  I ain't from the streets but I know if my best homey got shot and killed, I'll do anything to pay back them dudes who killed him, even if that meant testifying.  It's real easy to talk like you're from the streets when you're behind your computer.  Go back to listening to your Shawty Lo cds and pretend to be from the streets...faggots.
    November 19, 2008 1:18 PM
     

    BlackSean said:

    OK, for every smart dumb Negro reading this....

    -Stop watching The Wire, American Gangster, etc.
    -Stop reading Don Diva, FEDS, etc.
    -Stop listening to Fantasy Rap, I mean "Gangsta Rap" unsupervised if you too stupid to differentiate real life from entertainment.  

    Do cd's have to come with a "For Entertainment Purposes Only" sticker~ next to the Parental Advisory stamp?

    "TI snitched..... he broke the code of the streets..."  Huh??  Grow the ____ up, gain Knowledge of self, find your own voice instead of looking for a hero.  

    For the last time, its only snitching if A & B 'are both doing dirt', A gets caught up & in a pinch, fingers B.  Get it? Got it? Good.


    TI was most likely in court to make sure justice was served.  Only person snitched was a 40 yr old dumb nicca on his equally stupid 36 yr old brother.  HIS BROTHER! (Kane & Abel, anyone?)  
    Don't believe me:
    ******************************
    "The elder Thomas brother, along with two others charged with federal gun crimes, contacted officials earlier this year with details of the incident, effectively pointing the finger at Hosea as the killer."

    Padron Thomas’ plea deal has guaranteed that he will serve no time behind bars for his part in the incident.
    *************************
    Gather info, read it thoroughly, let it swirl around in ya head for a minute... then form your opinion.  

    -TI getting caught w/ a shipment from Guns & Ammo:  federal case
    -Philant Johnson murdered by the 2 Stooges in Cincinnatti: state case.  

    2 totally different jurisdictions.

    Say it with me, now --> T.I.  rcv'd the best justice money could buy, while the majority of these "keep it real" opinionated Negroes would get thrown under the bus.... by sum "court-appointed city official public defender that doesn't even know your name."  That's the real reason he got 1 year, while you &  I would get the book.
    November 19, 2008 1:19 PM
     

    K.A.K. DEUCE said:

    Wassup AHH

    There are some very interesting comments on here... I'm gonna have to side with all the people on here that think T.I. is, for lack of better terms, SUSPECT.

    What a lot of y'all don't comprehend is that there are a lot of dudes that go hard on that street tip, and I'm sorry to say but ain't none of them rappers... I don't know what y'all think it is, but you can't talk about something, especially with the conviction that T.I. does to MILLIONS of people and not really be about it. Yes he's a very talented rapper, and he's a very talented actor (in more ways than one).

    Y'all need to quit favoring these fraudulent rappers passes, cause if he wasn't a rapper y'all would have no respect at all for this guy. First he's the hardest n*gga on the planet, the KING actually, then he's a soft little girl when his friend dies, then he's the man-at-arms, then he's stop the violence, then he's back at it again talkin that gangsta sh*t, then he's testifyin??? Come on now, I would call it booty but something smell fishy.

    To be considered real, you have to be constant in your beliefs and actions. Sorry y'all, T.I. is a fraud.
    November 19, 2008 1:23 PM
     

    TMc said:

    Keep ya head TIP



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    November 19, 2008 1:23 PM
     

    MrBumpCap said:

    T.I.= Testifying Informant
    Point black period.
    LOL@ anybody that replies to someone on a message board.. get a life.
    November 19, 2008 1:24 PM
     

    WHEREDAHATERSAT said:

    FUCK T.I. YOU SNITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    November 19, 2008 1:30 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    The idea that the FEDS would drastically reduce his sentence because he gave information on a state murder involving a negro is HIGHLY UNLIKELY AND ASSUMES THAT THEY CARE ABOUT BLACK ON BLACK HOMICIDE. Ni99AS OFF EACH OTHER EVERYDAY. IT AIN'T LIKE A BIG AND 'PAC MURDER MYSTERY SOLUTION! A more likely scenario is he paid out the ying yang for some good legalese and he caught a break! Or informed on the supplier of the weapons but I guess we'll never know now will we?? If faced with a similar situation, I wonder how many of the Youtube/Myspace Bloods and Crips and digital thugs would turn??


    http://dish-n-dirt.blogspot.com/2006/05/tis-assistant-philant-johnson-funeral.html
    November 19, 2008 1:34 PM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    @everyone that says that the Feds wont work with State....What courts have you all been in?? For the Thomas brother, they already said that he could serve Fed and State time Concurrent....Which means that there is some cooperation at the state on the Thomas brother, so his fed charge would be served.

    Read Donald Goines "White Mans Justice..Black Mans Grief"

    Second, all the money in the world cant get these White Execs out of jail (Enron, Adelphia, Martha Stewart), and they hundreds of millions.You think TI's got that kind of money and still has money. Let alone Big Meech and his team ($250 Million)

    This country has indicted\charged\prosecuted a sitting US President!!!! But not TI??? I dont know his personal situation, but there are rules to this thing that they call justice...And lawyers (or knowlegdheable people) are needed to navigate this maze of them.

    Finally, If TI states he was there as a witness...then he will have to testify about someone from his team volleying hotballs. becauz he has to be a credible witness.

    There is a reason that they say dont make a deal with the devil. It is never paid til he has your ENTIRE soul.

    Death B4 Dishonor
    November 19, 2008 1:36 PM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

    bottom line the cold of the streets is bullshit.................morals superceeds that so called code of the streets............PERIOD!!!!! CLEAR TO SEE SOME OF YALL AINT GOT COMMON SENCE OR MORALS!!!! SAD!!!!
    November 19, 2008 1:37 PM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

      @BlackSean
    THANK YOU!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!! WELL SAID!!!
    November 19, 2008 1:39 PM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

      @Theyztenz
    GET EM!!!!! DAMN FOOLS WANNA BE DOWN SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD!!!!!!!
    November 19, 2008 1:42 PM
     

    MRGODBYROAD said:

    @ ALL YA'LL SO CALLED STREET NIGGAZ!!!

    STOP TRYIN TO BE SO DAMN HARD...........TRY BEING HONEST......IT WORKS!!!!!!

    LOLOL! @ ALL THE INTERNET THUGS!!!!!
    November 19, 2008 1:43 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    @MrBumpcap.. This *is* my life. I am a full time blogger, merchant and internet marketer. Every brother doesn't  steal and rob for a living or work the 9 to 5 grind. And I just responded to your digital thuggery. Feeling special now, buddy?
    November 19, 2008 1:43 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    Oh, I forgot to tell you to click the link on my previous posts. It's pics of Philant Johnson. He had a family. A beautiful daughter and  a life before it was snatched away by jealous, hateful middle aged dirtbags. And all you can throw around at TI is the word snitch? On a spineless, lizard? Y'all cannot be for real. Or from the streets.
    November 19, 2008 1:52 PM
     

    wizwey21215 said:

    real talk alot of yall talking this code of the streets shit yall niggas must not have been in the streets cause in these streets its every man for himself yea everybody sticks together until some shit goes down then your on your own when its time to rumble yea everybody together but when everybody gets locked up its every man for himself i have seen it to many times so leave that code of the streets shit out of it cause there is no code feel me
    November 19, 2008 2:01 PM
     

    Cephas said:

    Im glad he got his life together because he instigated that incident and them dudes finished it. its fucked up either way. i hate to see a black man die over nothing.
    November 19, 2008 2:02 PM
     

    DreamZiNaTi2 said:

    first, let me clear up thiz bitchassness and hating going on about this T.I. incident. My name iz DreamZ aka DreamZiNaTi since everyonez biting my stage name. I am from Cincinnati born and raised and know the nigga Hosea personally he is a washed up flunky. Let me explain how he was indicated for the murder. The nigga (hosea) worked for a dude named Reesee, Reesee was one of the biggest weed dealers in cincinnati and had caught a big case after the shootings. He (Reesee) is facing double life for various crimes such as bodiez/drugz. word on the street was that he was questioned about the shootings that involved T.I. and was offered reduced penalties for cooperating with the police and Reesee took the agreement and snitched on Hosea and His brother. Thats how the police found out who shot Philant, because nobody at home knew who did it but it was always speculated that Aristakrat records was involved in the shootings ( exempting K-Riley thats my nigga he straight)

    T.I. did not snitch on anybody It was Reesee real name Maurice Ferguson that started the domino effect of snitching that lead up to this murder trial .Reesee was Behind Aristakrat records with marquee artist K-Riley (see youtube K-Riley feat Gucci mane "That Boi Cold" Video) so yall know that was a front.

    So for all Yall talking that snitch shit, get a life. thats bottom feeding niggas for you some one becomes sucessful and yall try to assassinate their character and find a glitch and run with it.  Let that man live his life, his music hot and thats all im worried about

    Check out My bars at www.myspace.com/dreamzinati2

    I got Bars


    November 19, 2008 2:05 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    @cephas..

    And your facts are based off of???
    November 19, 2008 2:05 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    Go get em Dreamz....

    Pull those hater skirts up

    and it's better to spit bars than be behind them.. teehee
    November 19, 2008 2:18 PM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    And all you catz talking about there are no honor amongst thieves...that is a false statement.
    The game from the 70s and early 80's there were. After crack in mid 80's with these young cats not getting vetted, you got boyz looking at MAN time for making MAN money, and they never had to prove themselves as being able to hold water!  A thief is what you do, not who you are. You are a MAN first...That by definition means that there you are responsible for your actions.

    Second, that saying comes from the Russian thieves that were imprisoned by the royal families formed societies that still exist to this day and Indian Secret societies of Thuggees (Google it!)... By the way, this is where the word thug derives from. Thieves need networks to move goods. These networks have to be secure in order to work. And you have to be able to trust these networks to move\recieve goods and money.
    November 19, 2008 2:41 PM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    And all you catz talking about there are no honor amongst thieves...that is a false statement.
    The game from the 70s and early 80's there were. After crack in mid 80's with these young cats not getting vetted, you got boyz looking at MAN time for making MAN money, and they never had to prove themselves as being able to hold water!  A thief is what you do, not who you are. You are a MAN first...That by definition means that there you are responsible for your actions.

    Second, that saying comes from the Russian thieves that were imprisoned by the royal families formed societies that still exist to this day and Indian Secret societies of Thuggees (Google it!)... By the way, this is where the word thug derives from. Thieves need networks to move goods. These networks have to be secure in order to work. And you have to be able to trust these networks to move\recieve goods and money.
    November 19, 2008 2:43 PM
     

    sumhatesumluv said:

    Suspect, fishy, snitching. Could one of you self-proclaimed street dudes on this internet site break it down for me how this is suspect, fishy, or snitching? Snitching is you and I go into the store to rob it and I get caught then decide to bring you down with me. Snitching is not I give you a ride to the store you rob it then when they come looking for me I tell them I didnt know anything about it and point you out. T.I. had no ties or affilliations to those dudes. How can that be suspect, fishy, or snitching?
    November 19, 2008 3:00 PM
     

    HOT97 said:

     
    HOT97 said:
    O fuck T.I.--These rappers are so tough in there music and in real life they are very soft and Pink..
    November 19, 2008 12:42 PM
    November 19, 2008 3:02 PM
     

    Meatwad Get Da Money said:

    fickle fickle fickle hip hop fans...........damn son! that nigga tha police! fuck who you know and all these names you sayin. you wasn't in there wit dude. "if my best friend woulda got shot i'd tell it too" shut up nigga. like a nigga said about rick ross, it ain't the fact that he did it, its the fact that he lied. last year before his homey got shot it was "boy you finna get hurt, murked, put em in the dirt, boy you betta catch me first" if tha nigga hadda based his whole career off some feat. rihanna live ya life type shit it woulda been cool. but naw! this tha money hoes cars n clothes nigga! this tha dope boys in the trap nigga! this tha "fuck him fuck his whole family i wanna see him die" nigga! what i'm sayin is: if a nigga shoot my nigga and i know who did it damn right i'd testify, but i can do that because my image ain't based off me bein some super gangsta wit 7 felons who can get "a hunnid on the tab". and to you niggas defendin dude i know it hurt. i promise it do. it's like wakin up 1 morning when you like 4 or 5 and you catch ya mama puttin tha gifts under tha tree and signin "from santa claus" on em. i know it hurt findin out ya favorite rapper ain't what he portray. but get over that shit nigga!
    November 19, 2008 3:13 PM
     

    tbirdandkoolaid said:

    @   v4vendetta
    That thunderbird and Koolaid combo must be a  killer cocktail!! LOL.
    -------------------------------

    It is. That's some ole school shit, folk. Use either tropical punch or lemonade over ice. It's been a long time since I drunk it. Ran up in a few chicks with that mixture.....mix it just right and it'll sneak up on you.
    November 19, 2008 3:16 PM
     

    tha clear said:

    "you can snitch whenever you like yeaaahh"
     
    This whole snitching campaign is stupid to me. It all boils down  to self preservation in the end. If snitching gonna keep me out of jail, I'm all for it.
    November 19, 2008 3:22 PM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    It seems this whole debate can be boiled down to two sides. Cats that know what goes on in the streets...and cats saying what they would do if they got caught....

    But you made the correct decision early, by not living the street life. The MAN rule is that you dont do anything that you dont want to pay the consequences for!

    For the record, I am a citizen, but I know the rulez... . No one likes a tattle-tale. And as a man, it stinks of irresponsibility.

    Another fact: The FEDS have a 95% conviction rate. You mean to tell me that you think that he could beat that?

    DEATH B4 Dishonor
    "Truth, Honor, Respect, Loyalty, Courage"
    November 19, 2008 3:35 PM
     

    Howard McFly said:

    Same niggas callin somebody a snitch prolly the niggas that will sing like a mockingbird once they see football number cause half of yall havent been a misdemeanor let alone a felon,yall me kill wit this shit like yall sometime known killas or hustlas.....yall bloggers so stop worry about what he doin and live your fcukin life
    November 19, 2008 4:00 PM
     

    drewhood said:

    if yall watch the first 48 youll realize that eventually everybody snitches, if u lookin at a life sentence u prolly would too
    November 19, 2008 4:02 PM
     

    Daily Recap - 11/19/08 at SNICKA.com said:

    November 19, 2008 5:55 PM
     

    HIP HOP :: T.I. HEADED TO COURT…AGAIN? | said:

    November 19, 2008 6:41 PM
     

    gorgan said:

    According to some of you [real thugs] does this equate to T.I snitchin ? i know what i think , i'm just interested to know what the paremetors are
    November 19, 2008 7:45 PM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    Aint no real thugs...A man knows that if he aint prepared to do FOOTBALL numbers then he shouldnt be doing Football numbers shit!! What part of the game did catz get it twisted. VERY RARELY do you actually do something off the cuff, and get football numbers. You gotta commit a homicide or conspiracy to get them numbers...., or keep getting caught doing the same thing.

    What I see is a lot of people talking about the what internet gangsters would do.... LOL...

    Why is it hard to believe that there are men out here that ae responsible for their own actions. Meech did it. Minister Mac did it. Believe this....life aint easy and there aint no short cuts!!!!
    It seems that people are always looking for the easy way out...not the best way out. It is a difference. Like someone said already, you can be a prisoner while still walking on these streets


    November 19, 2008 7:59 PM
     

    DreamZiNaTi2 said:

    Like I said a few blogz up I see some of you dumb asses only skim through blogz I broke It down for all

    check Dreamzinati2 blog up top

    thatz how it went down T.I. aint have shit to do with them dumb fuckz getting caught, and fuck all you dick eating clownz because fuck that street code shit ya'll claim to live by because hell yeah I would testify against the niggaz that murked my nigga cause what would it solve ( retaliation ) just another dumb azz nigga in jail to cater to all the stereotypes.  yall want to retaliate? retaliate to them books maybe yall dumb ass would actually learn how to distinguish the difference between reality and entertainment, get a education better yet get a role model stupid muthafuckas!!!!!!!!


    and I got Barz www.myspace.com/dreamzinati2

    holla at me DreamZ
    November 19, 2008 8:20 PM
     

    gorgan said:

    the real world and the world rappers live in on there cd's are not the same place                                                    so lets see i'm facing 3 to 5 or 8 to 10 and all i gotta do is call out someone who ain't blood related to me
    and they killed my homie to avoid this , thus enabling me to eat the food i like when i like , be around my family , take a shit piss walk a time i like , have with sex with women , drive cars , by clothes and party , make beats and freestyle with my homies , come on the net and fuck around , watch sport on cable , make money spend money , give my family and people a helping hand and be there for my seeds and baby momma                                                                                                                                                               You really want me to answer what i would to ?                                                                                                                                                                      the term snitch was used by revolutionaries like the Panthers when niggas would would sing to the man about what the movement was doing                                                                                                                                                                    Snitchin does not apply to informing on class a drug dealers selling dope to mothers and young kids , neighbourhood burglars , robbers  , sex offenders , pimps and hooligans running round with guns and knives murdering and maming there own black people , and those who generally make the hood where you live a foul experience for you and your loved ones . anyone who comes on here and tries to diss me for what i'm saying is a punk ass bitch
    November 19, 2008 8:24 PM
     

    dicedabney said:

    HES A FUCKIN SNITCH (BOTTOM LINE)and all yal nigga covering for him.get off his dick he does'nt know you.so u being on his dick by defending him aint gonna get u a record deal,it aint gonna get u no money,it aint even gonna get u a hand shake from him.SO STOP.he got caught.now if he didnt rap gangsta and all that i live and die by the g-code shit.then yea who cares if he snitched.just like if it happen to kanye i would expect him to take the stand.But T.I Mr.You Dont Know Me nah he cant take the stand or everything he said in his raps aint worth nothin.Same wit Rick Ross i dont care if he was a C.O if he wasnt talking all that (biggest drug dealer shit).fuck it a jobs a job more niggas need to get 1.But i cant defend you if u talk 1 way and react another.JUST BE YOU FROM THE BEING.he should have told us he was a snitch in the begining than i lose no respect care!!!!just like i dont lose no respect for all niggas on here who are sayin yal would snitch too.and i defently cant wit none of yal rat has bitches on here yal aint no ridahs
    November 19, 2008 8:47 PM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    @ DreamZ...

    Getting Caught and doing time are two different things. Getting caught (arrested)...doing time(convicted).. Noone doubts you know the aunts starting late 70s early 80s. We were in the FAY., Winton Terrace, Clifton, etc...So all that code you shittin on...is a way of life that has been handed down for generations, and we good! |Took my teachings with to the DMV and still living and loving it.
    It seems to me that the cats that are saying that he should\could snitch would do it and cant believe that there are people out here living\dying by the code that you shitting on. It is funny how catz dont want to believe that there are retired soldiers out here, living as civilians and still willing to live\die by the CODE. Just because you have a new profession does not mean you are not the same man...Lifes streets aint got no U-turns...so pick your street correctly and stay in your lane!


    Death B4 Dishonor
    November 19, 2008 9:59 PM
     

    Latino Power said:

    Ahahaha Thaman1010
    That is the most biggest load of bullshit i have ever heard man. How many people here like Cypress Hill?? There Chicano MC's. How bout Kid Frost??  Anyways bro im not even going to reply in detail to what u said cos that is on the real the most dumbest thing i have heard in a while.
    November 19, 2008 10:07 PM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    November 19, 2008 10:11 PM
     

    Smokin420Aces said:

    @Gorgan..

    The term snitch has been used since the times of the Romans and the cats would snitch on the leader.

    As for the drug dealers..and pimps etc..In the 60's and 70's...do you think that race relations were so good between the boyz and blacks that we felt that we could call the police on them???
    Back in the day, we policed ourselves. WE handled rapists etc..but we were also a community.

    Read "Powernomics". Even in that book they are talking about how trust in the black so called community has be broken down even further by snitching.

    Take you on some 1800's shit...Out of all the slave revolts that were attempted...less than 1% were successful..why...They were ratted out by other blacks for short shit!!!
    November 19, 2008 10:22 PM
     

    AZtheVisualiza said:

    TI is a rat. Camron got shot 3 times, didnt say nothing, 50 got shot 9 times, didnt say shit. Shyne got a charge pinned on him, took a dime for it, didnt say a word. c-murder sat for a few years on a murder before he got a new trial, never ratted. prodigy got 3 years for gun charges, not a peep.

    the funny part is all these dudes that went through shit or are still going through it but kept it real, ive always loved their music. these are some of the best of the best in the rap game.

    but i never been a fuckin TI fan. hes just a small man with no heart and it has been proven now.
    November 19, 2008 11:56 PM
     

    VAgogetta said:

    MRGODBYROAD said:

    @ THOSE FRONTIN ON TIP CALLIN HIM A SNITCH!!!!

    HIS PLEA DEAL IS PUBLIC RECORD........FIND IT AND READ IT!!!!! AND "WHO" DID HE SNITCH ON? CAN ANY1 TELL ME THAT? NO! I ADMIT I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE ODD WHEN IT WENT DOWN.........BUT AFTER LOOKIN DEEP INTO THE CASE DUDE GOT A LIGIT BREAK! LET THE NIGGA LIVE! ALL YA'LL SOCALLED STREET/HOOD NIGGAZ GOT THE GAME FUCKED UP! INSTEAD OF SAYIN WOW......THAT NIGGAZ LEGAL TEAM WAS ON FIRE.........YOU SAY THAT NIGGA IS A RAT. GROW THE FUCK UP! TIP GOT KIDS AND A WIFE. TIP GOT REASONS TO LIVE! MAYBE YOU DONT! YA'LL CAN CALL IT WHAT YALL WANNA CALL IT........I CAN DETECT A HATER WHEN I SEE 1......OR2.......OR 3!!

    IF ANY1 CAN TELL ME WHO HE SNITCHED ON AND HOW MUCH TIME THEY GOT AND THE CHARGES AGAINST THOSE HE TOLD ON I WILL SHOW YALL SOME REAL NIGGA RESPECT..........UNTIL THEN.....FUCK YA'LL!!!! TIP DOIN HIS THANG LIKE IT OR NOT!!!!!
    ____________________________________________________


    the only statement that makes any sense out of all these posts.


    the realist shit i heard all day.

    the best explanation behind this shit so far

    CO-SIGN BIG TIME


    V-A ALL DAY
    November 20, 2008 2:24 AM
     

    Meatwad Get Da Money said:

    if it was suge knight takin the stand instead of t.i. niggas would be like: damn son you fuckin up ya gangsta image. fickle ass niggas. yall let ya personal opinion of a nigga cloud the shit that's right in front of you.
    November 20, 2008 5:41 PM
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