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Philly Rap Label Owner Ace Capone Gets Life In Prison

Friday, April 17, 2009 12:10 AM | 127 comments
By Mike Winslow

Ace Capone, the CEO of a Philadelphia-based Hip-Hop label was convicted under Pennsylvania’s “Kingpin” law and was sentenced to life in prison today.

 

Capone, born Alton Coles, was originally arrested and charged in August of 2005, accused of running a $25 million dollar drug ring in Philadelphia, Delaware, New Jersey and Maryland.

 

During his March 200 seven-week trial, prosecutors accused Cole and his cronies of moving over two tons of powdered cocaine and nearly a half-ton of crack between 1997 to 2005.

 

Prosecutors claimed Cole concealed his earnings through his businesses, which included a day care center, a water ice stand and Take Down Records, were fronts that helped mask his true source of earnings.

 

During his trial, prosecutors played a Take Down Records DVD titled New Jack City: The Next Generation which featured Ace Capone playing a drug kingpin involved in a brutal war for the city’s drug trade, along side artists on the label.

 

It was this DVD, along with the $500,000 in cash, 10 guns and 450 grams of cocaine found in his home in a suburb of Southern New Jersey.

 

"You never respect life, or the value of it, until it's taken away," Coles told Judge R. Barclay Surrick, who sentenced him to life plus 55 years.

 

"I never thought it would come to this," said Coles in tears.

 

Coles was found guilty of conspiracy to distribute cocaine, heading a continuing criminal enterprise that engaged in drug trafficking, conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering and weapons offenses.


Comments

 

HTOWNTX said:

Who??? Tough break nigga
April 17, 2009 12:21 AM
 

holyfool22 said:

All I can say is dont do the crime if you cant do the time. You have to learn to seperate fantisy from reality.
April 17, 2009 12:23 AM
 

linkfeedr » Blog Archive » Philly Rap Label Owner Ace Capone Gets Life In Prison - RSS Indexer (beta) said:

April 17, 2009 12:24 AM
 

HipHopManiac said:

DAMN......... PEACE NIGGA
April 17, 2009 12:29 AM
 

affliCted said:

Who cares?! Sorry ass dope nicca, ROT!
April 17, 2009 12:31 AM
 

AJRICH said:

Ross Boss
April 17, 2009 12:38 AM
 

Tye said:

lol @ King Pen....King pens don't live in the USA he was just another nicca with alot of cocain, and this is another example of niccaz trying to live out a movie, and it ended just like it ends in the theater..Death or Jail...theres only 2 options.
April 17, 2009 12:40 AM
 

lamarrion said:

"you never thought it would come down to this" that's alot of work but life. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
April 17, 2009 12:40 AM
 

Philly Rap Label Owner Ace Capone Gets Life In Prison | Eight Mile Road said:

April 17, 2009 12:43 AM
 

ReppnKing said:

*Waits for Rick Ross to do a song shouting him out after he uses Kumon to read this article, thought he never heard for the guy til now*
April 17, 2009 12:44 AM
 

TRUTHFROMDABOOT said:

It's one of these niggas in every metropolitian area in this country, the most flamboyant ones usually take the hardest fall..... DVD's, Billboards, big parties, fansy cars = Grown Ass Man time!!!!!!!!
April 17, 2009 12:45 AM
 

BIGGA_DG said:

"I never thought it would come to this," said Coles in tears."
Capone, born Ace Capone, y'all mixed up the names.

but what you think happen when you sell drugs bro. and even if you say it was a means then you met your end and kept going.

Tuff brake . smh
April 17, 2009 12:46 AM
 

slice1 said:

"During his trial, prosecutors played a Take Down Records DVD titled New Jack City: The Next Generation which featured Ace Capone playing a drug kingpin involved in a brutal war for the city’s drug trade, along side artists on the label"

i hope u people acting a fool on a dvd pay heed to this at least
April 17, 2009 12:46 AM
 

world champ said:

fuckin good wahts he cryin about theres people out on the streets dying and losing families cuz of that shit he thought he could make money off to only lookafter himself
April 17, 2009 12:49 AM
 

Texas_Playa said:

Life plus 55  years...WTF!!!!!

only 2 endings to this game usually....get in and get out...niggas be greedy
April 17, 2009 12:51 AM
 

She Luv Me Long Time said:

Freedom gone! I hope he fucked all da hoes he wanted to and drank all da liq and drove in all da cars cuz its a wrap!!!
April 17, 2009 12:51 AM
 

Tye said:

25 million from 1997 to 2005 + The time he got for gettin caught = minimum wadge.
April 17, 2009 12:52 AM
 

pleet said:

maybe his goons will break him out of prison?

hah. homie got what was coming.
April 17, 2009 12:59 AM
 

DABIZ said:

RAY J AND LIL KIM SPOTTED OUT AND ABOUT

http://www.atlnightspots.com/ray-j-and-lil-kim-spotted/
April 17, 2009 1:04 AM
 

MR.100STACKZ said:

DAMM SMH JEEZY SAID IT U NEVER KEEP THEM THINGS WHERE U STAY SMH

THIS GON ON DA NEXT RICK ROSS ALBUM

ILL PUT ANY MONEY ON IT THAT IN ABOUT 10 YEARS THERE GON  A RAPPER NAMED ACE CAPONE WHO GON START RAPPIN

ILL PUT MY MONEY ON IT

BROOKLYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 17, 2009 1:10 AM
 

shortnsimple said:

ouch
April 17, 2009 1:11 AM
 

Philly Rap Label Owner Ace Capone Gets Life In Prison | Hot 108 Jamz said:

April 17, 2009 1:12 AM
 

The_Genius said:

Intriguing, I guess he is now an Ace in the hole.
April 17, 2009 1:14 AM
 

Philly Rap Label Owner Ace Capone Gets Life In Prison | Hot 108 Jamz said:

April 17, 2009 1:15 AM
 

MRGODBYROAD said:

WHO CARES!
April 17, 2009 1:18 AM
 

KarEeMdaDreAm said:

damn.....that sux.....LOL
April 17, 2009 1:29 AM
 

junclassic said:

You know whats funny?

All the laughter and SMH's coming from heads yet we IDOLIZE cats who only RHYME about the EXACT shit this dude just got life for.

We'll watch Scarface all day but let somebody go thru it and no one cares...

Damn, guess the economy killed our compassion along with our employment.
April 17, 2009 1:35 AM
 

Hawlik said:

Okay, I personally don't like drug dealers, i feel that they fuck up there own neighborhoods and they only kill there own people.  But honestly, if this man was to "SNITCH" he could probably save america and niggaz like me and you would be allowed a better position in america.  What i mean, Of coarse he was not getting work from pookie round the cawna, this nigga knows the crackers responsible for alot of madness.  They don't count!  SNITCH em out, put Bush in prison.  Put them white boys who made you rich in there with you.

Honestly, I just hope his money went to somebody's college tuition, or rent/ bills being paid instead of the next nino brown.  Peace.  

Ain't nobody reading this blog shit anyway!
April 17, 2009 1:56 AM
 

Kappagem said:

LMAO...

Life + 55 yrs...

So, what ya'll saying?  This niccah happen to die, have his heart stp for like 2 minutes, but then happen to start back up, and then ya'll give him 55?

I never understood the whole "x life sentences served concurrently", or even life + x yrs...lol.

oh, I have no compassion for him.  Niccah cryin' talkin bout I never thought it would come to this.  Dumb azz....you just thought you would never get CAUGHT you dumb fuck!  That's what that NIGGA get and deserve.

ridiculous....
April 17, 2009 2:11 AM
 

Soul_Ambassador said:

co-sign: junclassic.... couldn't have said it better myself.

The things we do to get by..., end up taking the life away that we were trying to enjoy. We all know the card's arent dealt equally and in certain regions of the country the cost of living is ridiculous. So who's to blame!  Lord knows theres days I wanna beat the block bloody again, but "life PLUS 55"!!!!! MY NIGG.
That's a hellova deterance.... It aint a crime unless you get caught! My people, Theres got to be a better way!  



April 17, 2009 2:14 AM
 

RudePeruano said:

THAT NIGGA ACE CAPONE LOOKS LIKE FREEWAY AND BEANIE SEGAL'S LOVE CHILD LOL
April 17, 2009 2:20 AM
 

Soul_Ambassador said:

whats you life like?
April 17, 2009 2:20 AM
 

jase9 said:

@ junclassic

I don't teally like to co-sign anybody but I'm glad I read the responses cause i was about to type the same damn thing...

If I can add this point...not only is what you said 100% true.. BUT!!

cats will praise and vouch for rappers that talk this ish.. yeah so and so is really moving that snow.. and 90% of that is stuff they read online somewhere..

Then God forbid that rapper gets caught and sentenced .. and the SAME people that praise these rap cats be on these websites calling that rapper and idiot and all kinda names BECAUSE they got caught..

smh..

there are families that control the world economy behind the scenes and we would have to be complete idiots to think they're gonna let us keep throwing money at strippers and put platinum in our mouths.

The monetary system of the US is about to be changed completely and THEY WILL BLAME OBAMA for everything that goes wrong.. watch!
April 17, 2009 2:31 AM
 

M. Burmy said:

They give more time for running a drug dealership than they do for murder nowadays...

There's one thing the government can do to solve these street drug-lord problems, get the value to drop, and stop prison overcrowding-I think you can guess what it is (hint, it begins with the letter "L")
April 17, 2009 2:39 AM
 

Soul_Ambassador said:

" THEY WILL BLAME OBAMA "

I don't know about blame but Mr. President has a *ucked up job.

for all conspiracy heads...>>>>>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<The Obama Deception>

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756
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and the mother of them all...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<Zeitgeist>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ
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You be the judge...but at least you'll know who you are fighting.


April 17, 2009 2:57 AM
 

Philly Rap Label Owner Ace Capone Gets Life In Prison | rap.urmuzik.com said:

April 17, 2009 3:03 AM
 

Doobz-ashtray said:

i'm just suprised the water/ice stand didn't pop off.
April 17, 2009 3:27 AM
 

johnblacksad said:

3 ways out : death, jail and MADE ... the ones that made it are left out of the count!

"Some of us made it, most of us digressed
In the name of those who ain't made it, my progress
is your success please live through me!" Jay is that dude !

"I don't care what you do for stacks, i know the world glued your back to the wall, you gotta brawl, do that!" Jay is really that dude !

"Said where i would stop before i even started
When i get to one brick, then The Game i will depart with
Got to one brick then i looked to the sky, said
Sorry God, i lied, but give me one more try" Did I tell you that Jay is really that dude ?


"...It ain't a crime until you get caught" Jay (Jenkins)


nuff said !! get out while it's time !
April 17, 2009 4:34 AM
 

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April 17, 2009 5:02 AM
 

IRocJs23 said:

why cry now dude, you the did this shit to yoself patna!! now deal with it
April 17, 2009 5:20 AM
 

smackabitch said:

how n d hell a nigga could serve 55 yrs. plus life! gtfoh!
April 17, 2009 5:21 AM
 

anAbcd said:

a day care center? smh.
April 17, 2009 5:54 AM
 

Rachel_Summers said:

This is interesting?  Ross was hanging with Jay Z and Ace was friends with both of them, this is a fact that can be found on many related stories.  So it is fair to say Ross helped take him down.
April 17, 2009 6:16 AM
 

tippydickumdown said:

nigga played the drug kingpin in the dvd...sheesh
April 17, 2009 6:16 AM
 

tippydickumdown said:

nigga played the drug kingpin in the dvd...sheesh
April 17, 2009 6:16 AM
 

willie falcone said:

Ross snitched
April 17, 2009 6:36 AM
 

yaboi_D said:

damn...thats alot of time...he should have got out a
long long time ago..shit i know he seen bmf got caught, that should have been a hint for the "ACE THE KINGPIN to get out...drug dealers take note..do not make dvds, have parties, flawse whips,where lots of jewelry etc...you will get caught! you cannot advertise this lifestyle....:) this dumn ace dude  is making classic statements "i never thought it would come to this"..NEWS FLASH ACE: selling drugs is still illegal.. i wonder what he thought it would come to? probably thought he would become wealthy.LOL...niggas be trying to retire as a drug dealer....its get in and get out quickly or die or get football numbers....he should have gotten out and made a rap cd..shit he has a label and money to promote from the drugs,  he would have blown up since this is what rap is today...its about moving the work, women, shoes on the whip,ice on the neck etc..lol..good example: look at Rick Ross, all his songs are about this kinds of stuff, but he never did it..i thiink Rick Ross is smart..he had a 9 to 5 job, then jumped in the rap game and talked about stuff(moving the keys) people wanna hear and got rich...genious....thats making yourself marketable in music..
no i donot condone selling drugs, but i understand...i would never do it, in the end, going to jail ain't worth it..if people thought about what they are going to miss when they go to the cage, they probably would realize its not worth it..all that money is not worth it in the end when your in front of the judge, this is a never ending cycle, happens all the time.  I think the government is the supplier lol, they supply it and then watch the people they supply it to and when they start making money, they throw them in the cage..no its not a conspiracy to throw all black people in jail....just drug dealers, they were setup...:)...ACE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE CAGE... i know its hard out right now, i got laid off..it sucks..i know and understand..

get your cash up
http://cashcrate.com/1251517
April 17, 2009 6:52 AM
 

PISTOLGRIP said:

I don't see how you clowns can make front of a black man going to prison for the rest of his life.
April 17, 2009 7:24 AM
 

IAmMcFly said:

I don't see how you could take up for a nigga who poisons his own community? I don't give a damn if he white, black, mexican or asian. You reap what you sow. The nigga glorified a situation rather than trying to rise above it, now his ass gotta make license plates for .10 an hour. Fuck it.
April 17, 2009 7:57 AM
 

alski said:

i would of got out after my first couple of millions and move far away ...i dont want the streets or the fame, you get your money quietly and then you go...brothers love the life hope he can appeal or something thats enough time to break a dude down..
April 17, 2009 8:04 AM
 

baltimoreson3000 said:

Tye said:
25 million from 1997 to 2005 + The time he got for gettin caught = minimum wadge.  

EXACTLY
April 17, 2009 8:04 AM
 

hubcity129 said:

www.myspace.com/mrfoulstyles      yep, its sad but its relity. hold ya dome homie. the sanity is the 1st thing to go.

just listen to the 1st song and then u'll know what i mean!!!
April 17, 2009 8:05 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ hawlik

White boys? What you think Bush was slingin keys outta the white house? Fuck outta here. Yes white people sell drugs. Yes there is crooked ass white folks involved covering it up for their cut but my guess is the dudes you want to take down who control the game ain't white homey. They somewhere between white and black in color and live "slightly" south of the border.
April 17, 2009 8:26 AM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

Plenty of what I consider "Dumb @$$" comments, so I guess it's ok 2 add 1:

@ Hip Hop Maniac , Soul Ambassador , Pistol grip, Mr !00Stackz , Juneclassic , TYE , Slice 1 , She Luv Me Long Time , Texas Playa, Alski ( @ Alski: Spoken like a true " G " + 2 }: Some of the few  comments, I respect! +1

@ Those who feel Ace Capone got what he deserved / had coming :
IE: World Champ, Pleet, Kappagem , Iam McFly ( Especially IamMcfly...Slavery? Ok, I see where you @... Don't watch them videos Soul Ambassodor posted because they may make your head explode {Chappelle show / Clayton Bigsby style )

@ Yaboi D : The Fake Rick Ro$$? A Genius? 4 What?  Pretending to live Ace Capone's life , except lying about the ending to our youth...so they can follow the path in the hopes of succeeding in the game like " Bawse" ( Pronouced in a southern drawl, by an old inmate calling a guard / hack / bull / C.O..  Good thing that comment was near the end.. cuz you lost me right there. ( FYI )

Do you feel other drug dealers deserve prison? Big tobbacco? alchohol? Pfizer?

( Company's whose drugs ...er , "PRODUCT" are regulated by the F.D.A? )

Or just non-governmental drug dealers like Jamal & Raheem?

Or is there a difference between the drugs based on who selling the drugs? IE: "Just say no to drugs!" Campaign , designed by Barry Macaffery & paid for by Big Alchohol, Big Tobbacco , & Big Pharmecutical companies.... " Just say no to all drugs? Or just the drugs they ain't selling? GTFOH!

You can buy thier drugs from thier suppliers as long as they get a % of all the $$$$$$ ( IE: TAXES )

{ 4 The mentally delayed.... Anything regulated by the F.D.A. is a drug. Coffee , cigarettes , beer , liqour , wine , baby formula & yes... "BEEF"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J420Pw-y3lw

< Krs 1 Breaks down drugs in meat much better than I can. While your @ it : Compare this 20yr old "Rhyme" to your favorite rappers entire catalogue ( mixtapes & demo's included , down to 1st rhyme ever ) & post whatever lyrics are better than that! ( Imagine with Dr. Dre' beats , that instantly turn any MC / Rapper palatable. )

>>>>>Can 1 Finga type this , over Dre beat & go platinum.

Ni99a sells dope , etc., & jail is risked. Same Ni99a can get a liqour license , comply with law & sell beer that causes deaths from drunk driving , drunk fighting , alcohol poisioning , liver failure , divorce , job loss , etc. ( IE: Social issues ) & be %100 ok. ( As long as $$$ is correct. )

( IE: %100 ok , to sell ( poisonous to those who choose to use them , & even deadlier to those who don't. ( Second hand / unfiltered smoke ) cigarettes in store , but crime to sell the same cigerettes "LOOSE" for undocumented amount.... by same merchant /store. )

So yesterday it was so & so's "RAPS" , today Capone's DVD , tommorrow???? & Guess what , when they finally get to you , might not even be anyone left to heckle you , like you heckling him.

"Just say no to all drugs? Or Just the drugs that the government's dealers aren't selling?"
Getting high of thier drugs is legal , but if you buy from Jamal or Raheem , or are them , they will take your life. Same if you grow / make your own ( IE: Weed , Ecstacy , Mescaline Tabs ( Mesk ) { Ok , youngin's totally lost @ Mesk..Old heads NYC ROTFLOL @ Memories }

Jet fuel collapsed the towers? You believe watered down gas ( kerosene melted 5ft thick steel beams , sprayed with fireproofing & encased in concrete , & caused them to disintergrate & collapse & free fall speed , & will argue the point , like your 4th of July BBQ ends after 2hrs out of fear the BBQ will disintergrate & collapse if hit by baseball bat. Or even argue that if you sprayed fireproofing on the BBQ grill & then encased it in concrete , it would collapse quicker.

Or what WTC #7? The 3rd building that collapsed that day...why? Something like someone threw a lit cigarette butt into a trash can or something? ( If you know... please share WTC # 7 cause of collapse...Official theory ( There is none ) or your own.

Bush's Florida election was fixed...but they couldn't fix Obama's?

If America locked up every law breaker in the country, from weed smokers , 2 parking offenders , until not 1 criminal remained...A new law would be passed to create new criminals. Prison Industrial Complex rivals Military Industrial Complex , & the profits are corrupting...like the slave trade was & drug trade is.













April 17, 2009 8:27 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

How many people's lives do you think this dude permanently fucked up? Arrivederci mother fucker.
April 17, 2009 8:31 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

How many people's lives do you think this dude permanently fucked up? Arrivederci mother fucker.
April 17, 2009 8:34 AM
 

ANACOSTIA said:

Greedy!
April 17, 2009 8:40 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ edogz818

Come on man. Fact is selling crack and coke IS ILLEGAL. And comparing Pfizer to a crack dealer? Alcohol does cause a ton of deaths I agree there isn't that much difference in alcohol and cocaine as far as its adverse effects on society. But welcome to the real world...if you do something illegal and get caught be prepared to go to jail. You know what you are getting into when make that decision to sling. So all this moral equivalency stuff comparing alcohol to coke is moot. Not to mention you said yourself that alcohol fucks up lives and so does coke. So because of government is wrong about illegalizing one and not the other it makes it okay to destroy peoples lives. Fuck that. This conspiracy/ the man is out to get us shit is played homey. Whitey didn't make Ace Capone sling rock outta his crib. He did that shit on his own. His greed made him ignore the consequences. I guarantee he didn't shed one tear for a life he wrecked. Fuck him.
April 17, 2009 8:42 AM
 

tbirdandkoolaid said:

Coles was found guilty of conspiracy to distribute cocaine, heading a continuing criminal enterprise that engaged in drug trafficking, conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering and weapons offenses.

-------------------------------

LIFE plus 55 for this....No bodies. I see a businessman, not saying what he did was 'legal'. life though, GTFO.

10 tops, plus forfeit some cash to help the community.

Case closed. next case on the docket
April 17, 2009 8:44 AM
 

TheKillingJoke said:

He made a DVD with his face on it, then had all that money, guns and drugs in his crib.  Dude must not have listened to Biggie's Ten Crack Commandment # 5: Never sell no crack where you rest at.  That's what's wrong with black folks, always gotta show off to everybody that you living large.  I see it all the time around my way.  Got the Lacs sitting on 26 inches, candy coated paint, booming system, and you work part-time at Walmart?  Come on dog, it don't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.  Get your money, set up some businesses to bring in money, then get the fuck out.  The longer you in, the more evidence they can get on you.  He got what he got coming to him, by being greedy and stupid.  Tough break nigga!!  
April 17, 2009 8:44 AM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

@ MrNice guy: Here's a clue 4 u:

The ones who have the power...do the taking down. Avoiding take down , isn't as much about power , as it is skill. ( Even in wrestling )

Dodging the law vs Controlling the law? Not the same.

Paul Mooney said it best:
White Man can't Jump...but he don't have too...He owns the team!

Mayor Guilliani, of NY , during 9-11 , rose to fame as a prosecuter in NY & 2 months after 9-11 he claims he had no idea 9-11 ( WTC ) was a crime scene that should be investigated , so he sent all the steel & evidence to china , under guard & protest , to be melted down?

Terrororist paid him to destroy evidence of explosives? Or do you believe it's more of like some JFK's missing brain / "Farenhiett 9-11" Michael Moore type documentry , along the lines of " Nothing sinister here to look @ , just a bunch of dummies in action...STEP ON THE GAS FOLKZ"

"This $hyt is bigger than "NINO BROWN!"
April 17, 2009 8:46 AM
 

joe8383 said:

Stop the bloodclot cying!
April 17, 2009 8:47 AM
 

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April 17, 2009 8:51 AM
 

blackrome said:

The coke game is dead. Most niggas just to stupid to realize it. If your going to be in the drug game you better learn how to grow your own Hydro.

Everybody you know smokes weed. Crack does nothing but destroy our own neighborhoods. I don't see the suburbs of America falling down to Marijuana use.

Do the math.

There are more marijuana smokers in this country than any other so called illegal drugs.

More customers.

If you get caught with an 7 grams  of crack ($200) your looking at 2-4.

If you get caught with up to 15 pounds of marijuana ($60,000) you get probation.

There is no middle man if you grow. There are no feds trying to make buy's.

The crack game has been dead since the fed's came up with there federal sentencing guidelines.

Do the math. If you don't know the rules how can you play the game.  

April 17, 2009 8:53 AM
 

Pz-Gz-Huslaz said:

DAMN
April 17, 2009 8:56 AM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

@ Mr. Nice Guy:
%100 Agree:
Moral equvilency vs legal is BS. That's my point , except Morality is never BS. ( Personal Morals ) So if a conflict arises.... legal is on the BS side.

Yes, it is illegal. Right & Wrong have nothing to do with illegal. Technically , 150yrs ago , it would have been legal for you to be put to death for reading this, & equally legally , to sell your newborn , or rape your 8yr old , or wife , & could be legal again tommorrow with the stroke of a pen, & put into action quicker than the time it took Ace Capone to rise to the top, fall off , or even stay on.

Honestly though... we both know you already know this.

Legally , yes , %100 Guilty..then again, if the Carbon Tax issue generates a new law making it illegal to breathe..... would you be willing to break the law then????????
April 17, 2009 8:59 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ edogz818

Conspiracy theories are great. Everyone has one. You take all the evidence that has been laid in front of you and make an elaborate story to connect the dots. Its easy you can do it to I just made up a conspiracy theory about this comment. I work for the government and I want to see the black community's reaction to this story so I come on here and find the sympathizers for the piece of shit and I post inflammatory comments on how not to blame whitey and now you have  come out and defended this guy so now im investigating you through your computer. Crazy huh! but in reality im just stating my opinion on a website to you (now watch you get raided or something).

And you're right white men don't have to jump they own the team. If you don't like the game don't play it. Get a fuckin education like our President or Colin Powell or millions of other law abiding happy black folks.
April 17, 2009 9:02 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@edogz818

I agree moral is never bullshit. But in this case selling coke isn't moral nor is it legal.

And i think there is some truth to some conspiracies but we will never know so we do what we can inside the bullshit parmeters given us and we do whats best for ourselves, our families, and our neighbors.

searching for the truth is noble but i doubt we will ever know so lets move on
April 17, 2009 9:07 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

Actually getting caught with 15 pounds of pot will get you a mandatory minimum of ten years in federal prison. Trust me i know someone who was just sentenced a few months back for roughly the same weight. You can get less than mandatory minimum if you snitch... I mean cooperate with the feds.
April 17, 2009 9:15 AM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

@ BlackRome: "If you get caught with up to 15 pounds of marijuana ($60,000) you get probation.".......

You should put a disclaimer with the location. In the last month or 2 , I've personally seen a person get & do 30days in NYC, Mahanhattan ( Served time on the Island....& 30Days can feel like a lifetime , if it's your time. )

( Imagine the emotionally shock as you clutch your punctured lung , bracing for more deadly damage as well as minor damage like 150 stitch cuts from razor blades , & thinking:

" I'm BlackRome... I hit Ni99az! , I don't get hit!"...

I seen & spoke with someone who got home last night after doing 6yrs off a 10yr sentence in Iowa for 5lbs of Weed. That isn't even the crazy part. Not only was he a young , first time offender,.... he a whiteboy!

( Big UpZ & Welcome Home Eli...S.I., Ny. )

Honestly , if you a a judge, in power , then you giving some really reckless advice. The good thing is , you sound like one of those "Christians" talking about who is going to heaven & who isn't.

Funny $hyt is , when they start telling me who is or isn't going to heaven , & I reply like :

" Really? Wow! All this time I've been sitting her thinking it was up to God to decide who did or didn't go to heaven...& now I learn your the guy who decides who goes to heaven!"

Usually, the smart one's know it's time to STFU take the BS elsewhere!

April 17, 2009 9:19 AM
 

Black Hit said:

Co-sign Blackrome
April 17, 2009 9:22 AM
 

BIGGA_DG said:

Tye said:
25 million from 1997 to 2005 + The time he got for gettin caught = minimum wadge.


I need a minimum wage job with that pay lol
STEP YA MATH GAME UP HOMIE THATS LIKE 3 MILL + A YEAR
April 17, 2009 9:27 AM
 

tbirdandkoolaid said:

@blackrome

yeah growing is cool and all. you need to research how many plants you need to grow to not be charged with a felony. there's mandatory minimums for weed. don't get it twisted, there's individuals as a type this doing life for WEED.

You need to know what's what, and stay under that. I mean you can get a zip offa a plant and you don't need that much space to grow. dro is the way to go.

also when doing what you do, don't be heated while doing the transaction, or have heat in the same vicinity as the product.

as in everything in life, keep your mouth shut, stay on the unda, and you'll be cool
April 17, 2009 9:30 AM
 

Nex Gin said:

don't drop the soap
April 17, 2009 9:38 AM
 

ZHOOV-BOY said:

fuck him
April 17, 2009 9:38 AM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

@ MrNiceGuy: Thanx for clarifying the pot issue with Blackrome. I was gonna say "Judge BlackRome" , because I thought he was speaking like a judge...to you mentioned snitch. I stand corrected..I guess you can get probation in his case!

( Also , legal tech ? 9lbs 15 oz. = Fed also... I mean just asking! hahahaha )

Back 2 us:
I think both are = wrong / drugs. The difference isn't social or public safety.

http://www.drugpolicy.org/about/position/race_paper_history.cfm

Here is history on drug laws & in particular why weed is illegal.

"Harry Anslinger, head of the newly formed federal narcotics division, warned middle-class leaders about Blacks and Whites dancing together in "teahouses," using blatant prejudice to sell prohibition."

As an American Citizen, legally , the 1st ammendmant gives you the right to injest coke, dope , smoke crack, or whatever floats your boat. In reality, the issue comes down to less a drug of choice , that suppliers.

Phizer & Coke? Sigmund Freud sniffed more Yak than Sacrface's wife & extolled it's virtues. You can buy caffiens shots etc, to wake you up , but not coke? You can take all kinds of DR. perscribed downers to calm you down ( Think DR.'s recieved kickback...er , % , for perscribing certain drugs? ) but you can be forced into slavery for growing a weed plant for free & smoking it to relax?

Flipside that with all these little 5yr kids on riddlin, etc., 4 A.D.D. , etc.

Grown @$$ man wanna get yakked out his mind  vs drugging up a non consenting 5yr old?

Ok, Attention Defict Disorder you say? That's different? New disease? New Treatment? New problem? Or just New Drug?????????????????????????????????????????
April 17, 2009 9:43 AM
 

QLG87 said:

Damn Cuz dont even get a lil love 4 openin up a daycare center lol, but dat is alot of time 4 sellin dope, I seen a story on tv the other day bout a dude choppin up his wife and hiding her n the basement, he only did 18 yrs an he out, I'd rather live next door 2 da dope man than dat mufucka any day
April 17, 2009 9:47 AM
 

Black Hit said:

Cosign Tbird too
April 17, 2009 9:48 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

Yea 9 lbs is enough to get you with intent to distribute for sure. So yes thats federal charges brother. And the feds ain't your state cops/prosecutors they don't play around. They got the resources of the fderal government to come after you. AKA endless money. Stay clean.
April 17, 2009 9:50 AM
 

Black Hit said:

Yeah they be on that racist BS with how they use their sentencing guidelines.  In my state just recently this rich white lady was cruising around in her SUV and hit this homeless lady that was riding a bike on the street and killed her.  Two days later she  intentionally crash her suv into a parked car at a pharmacy to hide the damage from her original accident, but they caught her cause somebody seen her crash and took down her plate number as she was leaving the scene.  So anyway they go through the trial and all that and don't you know they had the AUDACITY to give this lady like a 3 year sentence with some probation.  She killed somebody and then tried to cover the crime up and gets 3 years!!!  This nigga here sold some product and get life in jail, where is the justice in that?
April 17, 2009 9:55 AM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

GOTTA PLAY THAT JAY-Z SONG ON AMERICAN GANGSTER

"FALLIN"
April 17, 2009 9:59 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ QLG87

I guess the government feels more strongly about you makin money without paying taxes then some nobody getting hacked up by her hubby.

Not to mention when you are servin on this scale you know how much crime (murders, shootings, assualts, etortion, etc, etc.) comes along with this shit. Whether you are charged with any of it or not you are going to catch the years for it. Thus the "Kingpin" law.

Its purpose is to make sure those in charge of running these operations are punished for ALL the pain and crime they caused.
Check the legislative intent on the bill.

Legislative intent is when those lawmakers creating the bill will write a summary about why they are making such a law and what it hopes to cure or prevent or in some cases to occur. It tells you alot about the law being created.

Church.
April 17, 2009 10:02 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ Black Hit

Is it always race with the sentencing differences or is it money or some combination? I believe in these sort of cases it is over whelmingly due to money and who you know and your legal representation.

Race will with some judges and prosecutors will play a role. But more than ever the only color that matters is GREEN. Its 2009 homey try to look for other anwers besides race.
April 17, 2009 10:05 AM
 

Black Hit said:

"[LEGISLATIVE INTENT] is when those lawmakers creating the bill will write a summary about why they are making such a law and what it hopes to cure or prevent or in some cases to occur. It tells you alot about the law being created."


And in the case of marijuana/cannabis the intent was to stop NEGROS and MESSICANS from copulating with the "pure" white women!  Fuck a legislative intent written by a bunch of rich WASP's
April 17, 2009 10:08 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ black hit

Where did you learn that? That's some dumb shit man.

Yea because if a white woman wasn't into a black man or a mexican there is nothing like a little weed to make her all hot and bothered.

Don't you think they would make liquor illegal if that was the case. Guarantee that had more to do with white woman fuckin blacks, mexicans and just about everyone in general than weed.

Fuck outta here with that shit homey.
April 17, 2009 10:15 AM
 

Hoeyuno said:

OUCH
April 17, 2009 10:18 AM
 

Black Hit said:

Not blaming race explicitly mr. nice (are you a cop or affiliated with LEO btw?) just saying that this judicial system is not set up for the POOR people and people of color to get a fair chance.  This guy was obviously not poor (he's a "kingpin" remember?) so he had to have a competent attorney and yet somehow he still is getting hit with a life sentence.  That is not my opinion that is a fact.  So if he wasn't poor and still gets the maximum do you wonder why that is or do you just accept it as "the way it is"?
April 17, 2009 10:19 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ black hit

Nothing like a spliff to turn a white woman into an interracial cock craving whore.

Fuck I guess that means I got to keep my woman away from weed. I got enough competition with one race don't need to be competing with blacks and (as you like to call them) messicans.

Don't understand how we got a black president, we younger more open minded generation (supposedly) and we got you writing how white woman turn whore for weed.

I wrote that shit about black women in here i'd be ripped a new asshole.

Difference is im not dumb enough to think that shit. therefore dumb sterotypes don't clutter my head leaving me free NOT TO DEMEAN OTHERS ON THE BASIS OF THEIR SKIN COLOR.
April 17, 2009 10:20 AM
 

Seen Da Dream said:

Damn.. yall comments are rough on here... yall really think homey deserves life plus 55 years for being a sucessful drug dealer????

I got a good friend doing only 30 years for double homicide....

"Ya get more time for selling dope than murder in this crazy world..."

I personally think Jezzy is about as sharp as a bowling ball but man did he hit home with that line!!!!
April 17, 2009 10:21 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ BLACK HIT

Im an criminal defense attorney
.
April 17, 2009 10:21 AM
 

Black Hit said:

"Where did you learn that? That's some dumb shit man.

Yea because if a white woman wasn't into a black man or a mexican there is nothing like a little weed to make her all hot and bothered.

Don't you think they would make liquor illegal if that was the case. Guarantee that had more to do with white woman fuckin blacks, mexicans and just about everyone in general than weed.

Fuck outta here with that shit homey. "

Yo brah YOU the one that need be doing some studying, you sound mad ignorant spouting off about things you know nothing about. But then again I pretty much already know what angle you're coming from, so doing research into these unjust laws ain't gonna really do shit for you except make you wanna lock up more niggas.  But in the off chance  you do want to expand your mind from what you think you already know you might want to check this out http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html  to start with
April 17, 2009 10:27 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ black hit

Actually im studying to take my bar in july. I graduated from law school in december.

The problem with the drug dealer who once had all the money in the world, once he gets busted most of hs assets are frozen. Yes he can come up with money for good legal representation (stash box) but i guarantee that his family don't play golf in the same country club as the judge. Remeber it is also who you know and how you got your money. That white woman's assets aren't frozen because she did not commit a crime where moving money was involved. Thus she still has money to make moves. However this is highly unlikely.

Killing someone in a hit and run i agree should get you more than 3-4. But sometimes guidelines are written for the judge to follow and sometimes he has discretion. Law is not always written justly (crack to cocaine laws).
April 17, 2009 10:27 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ seen da dream


It seems harsh if you look at it like he sold drugs he killed two people. But the kingpin law, which homeboy was prosecuted under, was written with the understanding that he probably ordered was involved with alot of other shit besides just actually moving weight.

I mean honestly do you think Ace hole was not involved in at least two murders over that period of time?

Now I think the law is just however I think that if a man commits murder during his kingpin days that you have to charge him for it. You shouldn't be (at least legally speaking) given a sentence for something you are presumed to have done because of your kingpin status.
April 17, 2009 10:31 AM
 

Black Hit said:

Ok I see you saying you're not a cop  mr. niceguy so I retract my previous comment insinuating that you are.  But the rest of my comments still stand
April 17, 2009 10:32 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ black hit

What part of criminal defense attorney dont you get? I don't lock people up I try to get them off or lesser sentences. At the minimum I make sure that their rights are protected against the police and the state in general.

CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY!

Here i will spell it out for you...

C R I M I N A L  D E F E N S E  A T T O R N E Y

And you're going to send me to a BLOG for the truth about this shit. I'd rather not waste my time on that shit. I prefer to do my own research. I dont buy into conspiracy theories and i dont dismiss them totally. I collect information analyze it and then come up with the answer that best fits the people's agenda involved and a come up with an assumption. Other times shit is just clear as day and laid out for you. And sometimes shit is just fucking moronic like your white women-weed theory. You're just wrong man. Nothing else to say. And no fuckin blog that you could have written is going to change that fact.
April 17, 2009 10:40 AM
 

HELLUPINPHILLY said:

Another black man lost 2 the drug game: AHH was being nice with the article tho. This nigga was 1 of the reasons it's HELLUPINPHILLY. The Article didn't talk about the murders. I just no every kingpin is dead or in jail.
That's why I don't no why yall be ryden Ross so hard, cuz if he was wip'n it real hard, his storie would be just like ACE or RAYFUL EDMUNDS.

It's a no win Game
April 17, 2009 10:42 AM
 

HELLUPINPHILLY said:

Another black man lost 2 the drug game: AHH was being nice with the article tho. This nigga was 1 of the reasons it's HELLUPINPHILLY. The Article didn't talk about the murders. I just no every kingpin is dead or in jail.
That's why I don't no why yall be ryden Ross so hard, cuz if he was wip'n it real hard, his storie would be just like ACE or RAYFUL EDMUNDS.

It's a no win Game
April 17, 2009 10:42 AM
 

HELLUPINPHILLY said:

Another black man lost 2 the drug game: AHH was being nice with the article tho. This nigga was 1 of the reasons it's HELLUPINPHILLY. The Article didn't talk about the murders. I just no every kingpin is dead or in jail.
That's why I don't no why yall be ryden Ross so hard, cuz if he was wip'n it real hard, his storie would be just like ACE or RAYFUL EDMUNDS.

It's a no win Game
April 17, 2009 10:42 AM
 

HELLUPINPHILLY said:

Another black man lost 2 the drug game: AHH was being nice with the article tho. This nigga was 1 of the reasons it's HELLUPINPHILLY. The Article didn't talk about the murders. I just no every kingpin is dead or in jail.
That's why I don't no why yall be ryden Ross so hard, cuz if he was wip'n it real hard, his storie would be just like ACE or RAYFUL EDMUNDS.

It's a no win Game
April 17, 2009 10:42 AM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ black hit

Be well man. I get upset when I see people make thoughtless comments about people that are incorrect and continue america's shameless tradition in discrimination and demoralizing others based on skin color. Whatever the color may be. And I would think (assuming you are black and a student of history *jack johnson pic*) you would be sick of the same thing.

April 17, 2009 10:44 AM
 

DRUNKENMAS said:

thats why they call it "the trap"......niggaz try to get that cheese ,then bam......55 years.
April 17, 2009 10:48 AM
 

Tye-Banks said:

Damn homie down goes another one! Now watch somebody else try to take his place.


http://www.TyeBanks.com
April 17, 2009 10:50 AM
 

JJmoras21 said:

Man that some real hard time how do they give you life plus 55 years when you die you still got 55 years more to do... That crazy time but he did have a good run when he was on top of everything... back to the music the yingyangtwins are back with new single mad check it out at myspace.com/yingyangtwins
April 17, 2009 10:57 AM
 

MrHimRightThere said:

corny @$$.. Horrormusic is rap, but that ain't hip hop. This dude gotta pay his debt to society. Paul Mooney said it best, "Everybody wanna be a nigga, but don't nobody wanna be a nigga", "Everybody wanna be a nigga til the cops come knockin". Cyber beef and thread beef is wack,played out,.. we don't believe you, you need more people.
April 17, 2009 11:09 AM
 

MrHimRightThere said:

I've sold it all from crack to Opium, in 3rd person I don't wanna see em... Chuuch... get off the same street corner, at the same time, wearing the same close. Stop standin on the same stoop, porch, bus stop. Jake know what's crackin. Switch yo style up, change to south paw. Or you minus well be saying CHEEZE to the cameras cuz One-time is seeing you through the eyes of that Fed Kodak camera. ..... damn ya blinked..
April 17, 2009 11:16 AM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

@ Black Hit : %100 correct on Marijuana Law ( White women & Messicans + 1 & 2 holes kicked in roof!

@ MrNiceGuy:

http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

Blackhits link was dead on:
Here's another , with the needed bibliographrical resources needed to independently verify , what Blackhit is saying & where to verify the facts for yourself!

Take the time to read it for your benifit.

http://www.drugpolicy.org/about/position/race_paper_history.cfm

Let's not forget Randolph Hearst ( Patty Hearst's Dad { Whole nother topic ( Patty Hearst ) had major beef with them Messicans. To be specific, Poncho Villa took 800,000 ( Minimum, maybe a 0 more ) acres of his timberplantation , when the Messicans " stole thier land back? ) & had a major grudge to grind. He also had a vested interest in ensuring paper was made out of timber from his timber plantations , instead of Hemp. ( Marijuana by product / paper )

You may be Mr. NiceGuy , but you are wrong on the racist origins of the U.S. drug laws. ( Of course Randolph Hearst Newspaper editorialized heavily on behalf of the Marijuana Laws & they were passed in secret. Also as tax issue , not public safety.

Good thing is, since Blacks were largely executed & lynched for reading , traditionally , in America , minimul care was used to hide racist intent!

Also, just for $hyt$ & giggles:

http://www.lizmichael.com/racistgc.htm

The racist origins of US gun control. Read the 1st gun control laws & see if you can argue to yourself that they were designed & drafted to keep newly "FREED" "SLAVES" from protecting themselves against racist violence. ( Government sanction , defacto & directly = Pogram )
April 17, 2009 11:30 AM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

Infact @ Mr.NiceGuy:

Search "Slave Codes" & see if that changes your opinions about the justice system you aspire to be part of! ( Glad it's for defense )

Also, you are right, Class comes in as much as race. As my homie once said in describing the Prison Industrial Complex :

"The fish likes dark meat, but when there is no dark meat..the fish will eat white meat!"

@ Black Hit"
Where's the Justice? look @ it like this " Just - Us" & see if you see it then!
Peace!
April 17, 2009 11:38 AM
 

phillytbg said:

Man I live in Philly where dude from dude was getting I cnt even front he the reason alot of Philly rappers got exposure in the city but on the flip side wrong is wrong can't get mad at the verdict
April 17, 2009 11:39 AM
 

yourconnexx said:

i dont see how this warrants life plus 55 years!!! he wasnt convicted of murder. people kill other people and dont get that much time ... thats a ridiculous sentence from an already unstble justice system we have ...... dui homicide in pennsylvania is 3-6 years.... selling drugs in pa = life???...mannnnnn its really hard to turn a blind eye to the fact that crimes commited mostly by whites carry lighter sentences even if they do more damage to their victims than the crimes mostly commited by blacks/minorities
April 17, 2009 11:59 AM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

DAM THAT SHIT MAKES ME THINK

WOULD YOU WANNA BALL OUT FOR 8 YEARS OF YA LIFE LIKE A MILLIONAIRE AND DIE OR GET LOCKED UP FOR LIFE OR BE A BROKE NIGGAS STRUGGLIN FOR YA WHOLE LIFE AND STILL RISK DIE'N AND GETTIN LOCKED UP. I CANT BE MAD AT DUDE. I SMELL A RAT THO.

I WONDER WHO TI SNITCHED ON?

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April 17, 2009 12:30 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

It's a challenge organizing young illiterate black men. Most of these drug kingpins are extremely superficial. Niggaz that aint never had shit always want to project the image that they got everything. Organized crime is about more than drugs. If you are just going to be a drug dealer, with no knowledge, political, and business affiliations I don't care how much money you make. They will simply take it from you.  The type of discipline and ruthlessness that is needed to succeed at organized crime is lacking in the ghetto. Your team should be diverse, the little dumb thugs have their place, but you should also be putting some young men and women through law school, business school, etc. People with CLEAN backgrounds, this is important. All these little niggaz want to do is get a chopper, spray up the block, go to the club and waste money showing off for 2-bit broads. Fuck that shit.
April 17, 2009 1:03 PM
 

IM_READY said:

Hold your head up my nigga.
April 17, 2009 1:15 PM
 

Professor Knowledge said:

Real Talk AHH I could always use some extra income. Let me write a story because this is GARBAGE. I guess the writer never heard of proof reading. SMH...

Back to the story, Philly.com had a good video describing it. http://www.philly.com/philly/video/090331_pc_mob_ep7_ace.html

I hope this clown burns in hell...



April 17, 2009 1:23 PM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

Good video! To bad I didn't see or hear one shred off evidence, in a "Legal" sense. Plenty of inflamatory stuff though. Honestly, based on the video , Al Pacino could be on trial. 3 & 1/2 hr Movie in theatres ( as opposed to half hr DVD , add a estimate of what you guess he could have made, & throw in licensed firearms & viola, same $hyt! Chrstopher walken in " King Of Ny" , Al Pacino in Godfather. Wanna give him life , add Carlito's way & Al is 3x loser. Str8 to SHU program!

@ Proffessor Knowledge: Fuk this Ni99a & his sentence eh? Tell me , do you not have anything regulated by the FDA? Eat Beef? Or Drink? Smoke? Coffee? Chocolate? Meds?  that's different y? Your supplier is more gangster than Ace Capone?
April 17, 2009 2:24 PM
 

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April 17, 2009 3:21 PM
 

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April 17, 2009 3:52 PM
 

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April 17, 2009 4:01 PM
 

CHAD239FLABOY said:

How dumb can you be man when I make my first mill I aint touching no more drugs that's all I need you can do a lot of legal stuff with that million to make more you gotta invest and make some smart moves all that work he did and all that money was just a big waist of time throwing your whole life away they call it fast money but in the end its gonna be the slowest money you ever made like Mike Epps said you think Minimum wage is bad wait until your in prison making a couple cent a hour
April 17, 2009 4:06 PM
 

MizPhenomenal said:

all im sayin is raphead.com
April 17, 2009 4:12 PM
 

No.1FlyBoy said:

Thats HUGE if he was doin it B.I.G. But it is wut it is gotta do tha time all i can say is be easy. I wish death or prison time on no man
April 17, 2009 4:18 PM
 

michael50 said:

Anybody who would name himself Capone, Gotti, Gambino, etc., deserves to rot in prison.
April 17, 2009 4:24 PM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

Anyone who feels someone deserves  rot in prison because of thier name  , deserves to rot in prison for public safety!
April 17, 2009 5:03 PM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ EDOGZ818 and BLACK HIT

Yo these blogs with bibliographies are great. I can write a book of bullshit filled with my agenda and my slanted point of view, publish it and then have someone with the same views post it on their blog and it still is what it is biased righting with nothing but an agenda to push. Im going to reasearch gun control and its origins and marijuana prohibition and its origins and i guarantee i can find plenty of blogs, articles, books and cited bibliography references to support an opposing view to yours.

We can find information for any angle should we choose the problem is looking at a story from a neutral (as much as possible) and indiscriminate mind state look at all the info (or as much as possible) and then see what makes the most sense. Maybe there is 100 articles and books published with your point of view but i promise i can find a 100 with mine or some other opposing point of view and then were will we be? Then we go off what makes sense to us. Your experience versus mine. Stuck in our ways arguing about it ad naseum. I just beg to differ. Passionately, especially about the white woman-weed shit.  

April 17, 2009 5:39 PM
 

mr.niceguy said:

@ edoz818

And if you think the FDA is corrupt (which it is) and worse than all these punk ass dealers selling their people down the river for money (they are pretty much the same) then what is Obama going to do about it?

If alot of it is race then our man for change will change this bullshit government agency.....................unless of course he's just as corrupt and bought off as the rest of his predecessors.

He has the power to restructure these agencies through a presidential directive. Either he believes that they are kosher or he's just as bad as the rest. Guess time will tell.
April 17, 2009 5:46 PM
 

Ace Capone: Ace Capone sentenced to life · Celebgalz.com :: Hottest World News Updated Daily said:

April 17, 2009 8:20 PM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

Sadly Mr.Niceguy:
It's a class / race / social issue. A Money issue.

What did Obama say about the 2009 video taped execution of Oscar Grant.  Nothing! No justice Dept investigation etc. Laws? Not even a speech... as opposed to the Pirates in Somalia?

500yrs we waited for what? A black president to bail out the bankers who are enslaving us? That $hyt was more importantant than addressing independance for Blacks? Reparations?

Do you think all the Bush brothers were simotainously elected to most powerful positions because they were the best? or luckiest?

Were those past election wrought / racked with fraud? Would be 1 hell of a coincidence that the first legit election produces a Black President. Who wins with Coporate sponsered elections?

The NWO needs a Black Face to pacify the masses & expliot Africa. First Obama Military excurion = what? Attacking Africa? ( Somali "Pirates" interferring with coporate violations of Africa's Natural Resources.

Bravo! Brother Man! Bravo! I'm sure he'll make ending slavery in the sudan a priority , either right b4 or right after he makes ending slavery in America a priority. ( Prison , income tax )

The Privately owned & controlled government ( Federal Reserve = Private Bank owed by Rockerfella's etc. ) is a business. What is the banking or any business' goal? Keep customers satified ? Happy? Or to make money?

The government for the people has become a government for itself!

Freedom is within the constitution. They tear at that everyday, & soon ( if not now ) it will have less civil rights than human rights. Obama isn't running the show!

Besides, this isn't even a 2 party system , it's a one party sytem with 2 factions.

Private bankers have indebted the government & it's citizens , post defacto , ( through "legal" theft ) to the piont where the government has to go to war , or enslave it's citizens to repay it.

That's what I see in America's future...Wait, I meant in today's morning paper! ( Prison, income tax , iraq / afghan )







April 18, 2009 6:27 AM
 

EDOGZ818 said:

Side note:

On Blogs / links i posted with bibliographies:

%100 true @ your piont. For nuetralty / nuetral facts , I used the bibliography to find the actual laws on the books & examine the literal text , & make decision from the accurate text!

On gun control:

Not sure what your piont is? Are you saying the 1st gun control law , passed right after 13th amendment that outlawed slavery , was to prevent whites from owning guns instead of Blacks / former slaves?

Why wasn't a gun control law passed b4 slavery ended? Courts were to busy deciding that ....

"the Black Man had no legal rights that a whiteman was bound to respect?"

( Play on words from Supreme court decision:

Dredd Scott v. Sanford , 60 u,s, ( How.19 ) 393 (1857 )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

To quote rap's favorite minstrel philosopher :( b4 he joined vh1's minstrel show ) Flavor Flav....."She Watch Channel zero" ( nation of millions album Public Enemy )

"Your blind baby, blind to that facts of who you are because your watching that garbage!"

I hope you become a great lawyer for our people!
( Lord knows we need 1 )


April 18, 2009 7:54 AM
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