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Breaking News: Jay-Z's First Response To Beanie Sigel

Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:07 AM | 211 comments
By Houston Williams

Jay-Z has responded to the barbed words of Beanie Sigel, in the aftermath of a diss song called "What You Talkin Bout (I Ain't Your Average Cat)" at a Canadian Press conference.


Jay-Z appeared at Montreal's Bell Centre to answer questions from writers and reporters.

 

Sigel, once a prominent rapper in Jay’s Roc-A-Fella Records, expressed a number of issues with his former comrade. These matters ranged from loyalty to allegations that he had Sigel removed from a concert in Philadelphia by police.

 

Jay-Z made no mention of most questions that bothered Sigel, but he did say he felt he helped his counterpart greatly in an interview conducted with larueduhiphop.com.

 

“Beanie Sigel, to be honest and you can look it up, just to be honest…was driving two Bentleys. I don’t know how,” Jay-Z said at a press conference to the Canadian Hip-Hop site. “Its impossible to drive two cars at the same time. With his momma in the sticks, selling 800,000. I don’t know what more you can do for somebody.”

 

“What people choose to do when they obtain that type of success, at some point you gotta look in the mirror and look at yourself,” Jay continued. “Beanie Sigel had a record deal, a record label and a clothing line…and never went platinum. Ever. I don’t know in the history of rap has anyone done so much with so little. So, I don’t know what more can you do for a person at that point. A record deal – that’s normal. A record label and a clothing line. If that’s not pushing the person…s**t.”

 

Friday morning (October 30), Sigel spoke to Philadelphia 100.3 radio host Charlamagne Tha God and aired out his grievances, which seemed more about loyalty than any other topic.

 

“I think I held my tongue long enough about this whole Roc-a-Fella situation,” Sigel. “I was the realest thing that happened to the Roc. The Roc was just a rock. I brought the Fellas to Roc-a-Fella Records; Hot 97, State Prop, y’all remember. I brought the street cred to that. I fought all them battles: Jadakiss, Nas, Dipset. Anybody you woulda told me to go after. Matter of fact, you ain’t even have to tell me. I frontlined for that thing of ours, for that diamond that people was throwin’ up. I’da took a bullet at that time.”

 

Sigel also stated the he wasn’t really dissing Jay-Z even though some of his raps seemed to counter that assertion.

 

The displeased rapper explained, "I'm not really dissing Jay. It's certain parts in there where my emotions ... it's an emotional record for me. When I listened to The Blueprint 3, I heard a lot of shots directed towards people.

 

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Comments

 

SEARS TOWER said:

THATS MY POINT!  ITS NOBODY FAULT BUT YOURS PLAYBOY

STOP PLAYIN VICTIM
October 31, 2009 1:19 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 1:20 AM
 

Hannibal_187 said:

s**tis crazy Yo. I hope something good comes from all of this.
October 31, 2009 1:21 AM
 

patrickBATEMAN said:

"THERE YOU HAVE IT, JAY ACTUALLY RESPONDS"...and he has a good point! as far as not seein' BC in prison, that's for them to discuss. maybe if beans had the same vision as jay, he may have cleaned up his act and made some real moves in the business, but who knows when it comes a real street dude?
October 31, 2009 1:21 AM
 

patrickBATEMAN said:

"THERE YOU HAVE IT, JAY ACTUALLY RESPONDS"...and he has a good point! as far as not seein' BC in prison, that's for them to discuss. maybe if beans had the same vision as jay, he may have cleaned up his act and made some real moves in the business, but who knows when it comes a real street dude?
October 31, 2009 1:21 AM
 

ThugPoetic said:

Two Bentleys? Beans is mad cuz Jay put kid Cudi on BP3 and not him lol
October 31, 2009 1:25 AM
 

SneakerTecato said:

life is nutzzz, success brings so much drama
October 31, 2009 1:25 AM
 

ansonreed said:

The saga continues
October 31, 2009 1:30 AM
 

b_goat76 said:

I said muthaphuckas are LAZY!!!!
October 31, 2009 1:37 AM
 

biggiebig07 said:

well, jay right, what more can u do for a n***a? and this is me bein a personal fan on Beans, but he gve u a record deal, u had a clothing line, record label, prolly more. its s**tu gotta do urself, u cant force the people to like your music or your clothes, and neither can jay, so u cant be mad at him for not takin care of u, u a grown ass man some s**tu gotta do urself, jay cant be holdin ur hand all the time
October 31, 2009 1:43 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 1:44 AM
 

KING JOFFY JO said:

HE HAD ALL THOSE THINGS BUT THEY ALL BACK DOORED HIM ON THE BIZNESS TIP..AT THE END HIS STUPIDITY DID HIM IN......NO BIZNESS SENSE
October 31, 2009 1:50 AM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

MAN THIS RAPPER WITH THESE HE BROKE MY HEART SONGS

IS KILLIN ME

THESE n***as ARE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE THE OLD MARY J
BACK SHE USE TO MAKE ALL THEM SAD HE BROKE MY HEART ASS SONGS


MISS ME WITH THE bulls**t

PUT ME IN THE n***as BEANS SHOES

I'LL SHOW YOU HOW IT SUPPOSE TO GO
October 31, 2009 1:51 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 1:51 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 1:54 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 2:07 AM
 

Yamoley Almighty said:

Beans should be happy he wasn't a part of that BP3 disaster....that deceitful camel is on some corny, techno, futurama type of bulls**t these days...let him collabo with a bunch of half-a-b***h n***as like Cudi and Drake. Beans style is too raw....and Jay ho ass is side stepping the issues Beans touched on, same ol song and dance with this clown. Whatever the tension is with the two and their able to patch it up, cool, but if not, it's no big deal....Sigel don't need Hov's b***h ass.
October 31, 2009 2:09 AM
 

Apostle13 said:

SEARS TOWER said:
MAN THIS RAPPER WITH THESE HE BROKE MY HEART SONGS

IS KILLIN ME
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cosign!  And then they're like "no...i love dude, i just had to say my piece.."  either its beef or its not...if you love dude, then straighten it out behind closed doors...smh.  the truth to the point is, Beans too straight gutter...and he wouldnt want to replace that image for something that could sell...
October 31, 2009 2:11 AM
 

UptsFinest said:

Beans is mad at the aftermath not what happened during the height of The Roc. Jay held him back from moving on, but wouldn't take him alone to the new "Roc Nation". Also Beans took offense to how Jay handled their recent encounter at the Philly show. Lets not get caught up in Jay's response, stating what he did for Beans 10 years ago.
October 31, 2009 2:15 AM
 

JoeyBeaver said:

Man honestly this is sad.........I dont know if Jay realizes it, but hes tarnishing his own legacy by shittin on the people that really had his back. How the hell you gonna agree to a contract that says you can't work with beans for life! I dont even think I can listen to the Roc la Familia anymore cause I know the love aint there. Seriously whos next........From Jaz-O the man who influenced Jay, to Dame, the man the helped him build The ROC, his childhood friend Desean or whatever his name is, and now Beans? What the f**k? I am usually enertained of hip hop beef, but this is just sad.........
October 31, 2009 2:17 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 2:18 AM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

MAN THESE RAPPER WITH THESE HE BROKE MY HEART SONGS

IS KILLIN ME

THESE n***as ARE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE THE OLD MARRY J
BACK SHE USE TO MAKE ALL THEM SAD HE BROKE MY HEART ASS SONGS


MISS ME WITH THE bulls**t

PUT ME IN THE n***as BEANS SHOES

I'LL SHOW YOU HOW IT SUPPOSE TO GO
October 31, 2009 2:19 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 2:24 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 2:25 AM
 

paradyme said:

JAY in the minds of many ain't supposed to be where he at. JAY is now a square a sucka by n***a minded standards. Niggaz don't wan't nothing and will not allow you to have anything either if you let them use their mindless brawn on you. Brawn is beat any day by intelligence. Brawn is then left with no opponent shadow boxing itself with no less than an appetite for self destruction.
JAY had to know it would come to this and he'll have to address the jealousy from the masses of failed individuals that surround his career. Let's hope he can do so peacefully. This is meager attempt to bleed JAY into a sympathetic surrender of his money and resources. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. This is what JAY said now and already in song to BEANIE. I think a rival fraction has bought BEANIE based on his obvious reluctance to really go in on JAY. The old ROC with acception of a few are really hurting because those individuals never grew legs enough to support themselves. Sounds like the ole crabs in a barrel.It's good JAY shed the ROC environment when he did or JAY-Z too would have ended up like PAC and BIG. Don't look back @ these fools...and don't argue either as your earlier recordings would say " NEVER ARGUE WITH FOOLS/CAUSE PEOPLE FROM A DISTANCE DON'T KNOW WHO IS WHO.
October 31, 2009 2:28 AM
 

Doe A. Fella said:

Where the song at????

I wanna hear that shiit.
October 31, 2009 2:33 AM
 

KING JOFFY JO said:

that aint a response 2 beans!!!! beans sed he didnt push him properly (meanin his albums) not give him a clothing line n wut can he do wit a record label wen he wasnt even completely supported by tha label he was on… u hafta b nationally known or at least a successful artist b4 u can start moldin n pushin ur own artists n beans wasnt quite there… not even jus that wut about wen jay aint let him off tha roc wen he was tryna sign wit g unit… i wanna kno wut hov got 2 say about that… or about removin beans from his show 4 no reason… wuts really good hov??
October 31, 2009 2:33 AM
 

JoeyBeaver said:

Beans V Jay
Philly V New York

What a coincidence
October 31, 2009 2:35 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 2:47 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 2:50 AM
 

Jimbus23 said:

I'm white and I love black people! It's not cool for white people to use the "n" word......in any situation. I don't use it and cringe when I hear people around me say it, and I step to them about it.

Nas....one of my favorite emcees of all time and I thought all his albums were dope in some way. I can agree with liquid on the five classic albums, Untitled was mad underrated and Esco got screwed out of a Grammy for it. But who gives a f%$k about those......

This diss is alright, could have went harder, I don't see jay responding.
October 31, 2009 2:57 AM
 

sy5551 said:

to be honest, if jay wants to keep the respect of the hip hop community as a whole, he has to get at beans lyrically, thing is u gotta look at the facts

every part of jays life has a detractor, is jay just the smartest dude from the block or is jay cutting ppl off when theyre no longer an asset to him?

back in the day=dehaven
start of his career=jaz-o
height of the rock=beans, peedie, oschino, dame, biggs
future=j cole, rihanna, kanye?

jay on some hollywood s**tbut lets hear u come at beans lyrically, but hov don't want it with beans, beans invented his style

jay a more refined version of beans like drake is a more polished version of wayne

hip hops the new WWF and beans just bodied jay

LETS HEAR A COMEBACK!

u can say that the game, joe buddens, jim jones aint on ur level, but beans is above u so i fu dont go back at him ur just a lame
October 31, 2009 3:02 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 3:02 AM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

this nicca Jay z musta started a new Bythch nicca religion..and he must be the messiah..

and yalls god is baphomet..


This nicca Jay z is the epitome of a coon ass bytch nicca..

and we got his fellow bytch ass niccas always riding for him..

cant u see this nicca is a sucka?

now only did he play out all his boyz..but the nicca played YOU.. the consumer out.


the nicca is in the KKK...hes a BOULE NICCA..he takes direct orders from the whiteman..


he prays to baphomet.. the horned homosexual goat god..


know what that means?  that means your boy is taking it up the rump..or playing the meat flute on sum old azz white guy..

and this is your hero niccas?


this is who u admire?   yall niccas think a Nicca bootlicking the whiteman is "making it sumwhere"


o yall call that.."at a higher level in the game " huh?


at least Tupac was smart enuff to speak out against the slavemaster and the all the homo shet they make u do to "make it"

he even paid for it his outspoken ness wid his life..

jay z and the rest of these cocksucka house nicca scumbags wont part threy lips in condemnation of what the whiteman makes them do..

becuz these niccas is scared to death..


but they sum mobsters huh?  sum killas....sum kingpins..huh?



yeah, a drugkingpin mobster who has the FEDS on speed dial...against another nicca he was supposedly down wid..



CANT YALL NICCAS SEE ..HE ONLY ATTAIN S THIS SUCCESS BECUZ ALL OF THE DIFFERENT WHITE PENIS IN HIS AZZ AND THROAT..

AND THEY TELL HIM AND BEYONCE TO DO SUCH AND SUCH..AND THEY DO ITY LIKE GOOD LIL HOUSE NEEGROES



LET jIGGABOO Z RAP SUM FIGHT FOR FREEDOM TYPE SHET AGAINST THE WHITEMAN ...AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS....


mark my words....when the whiteman is thru wid Jay z and beyonce and any other sell out azz nicca..



They ll kill him.

watch....big time celebrity boule baphomet nicca is gonna die...and all the sheep will cry he was the best to ever do it.


why dont yall niccas just wear a t shirt that says..


THE WHITEMAN IS SUPERIOR..HE GIVES US OUR HEROES AND IDOLS..HE TELLS WHAT TO THINK, HOW TO FEEL..AND WHEN TO DO IT..HE EVEN HAS US NOT BELIEVEING IN THE MOST HIGH

BUT WE BELIEVE IN OBAMA AND LIL WAYNE AND JAY Z..

BECUZ WE REALLY ARE 3/5THS HUMAN BEINGS AND CANT STAND ON OUR OWN TWO FEET..WE NEED THE WHITEMANS DIRECTION..HES OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR..
October 31, 2009 3:03 AM
 

JUDAH NAZURA said:

this nicca Jay z musta started a new Bythch nicca religion..and he must be the messiah..

and yalls god is baphomet..


This nicca Jay z is the epitome of a coon ass bytch nicca..

and we got his fellow bytch ass niccas always riding for him..

cant u see this nicca is a sucka?

now only did he play out all his boyz..but the nicca played YOU.. the consumer out.


the nicca is in the KKK...hes a BOULE NICCA..he takes direct orders from the whiteman..


he prays to baphomet.. the horned homosexual goat god..


know what that means?  that means your boy is taking it up the rump..or playing the meat flute on sum old azz white guy..

and this is your hero niccas?


this is who u admire?   yall niccas think a Nicca bootlicking the whiteman is "making it sumwhere"


o yall call that.."at a higher level in the game " huh?


at least Tupac was smart enuff to speak out against the slavemaster and the all the homo shet they make u do to "make it"

he even paid for it his outspoken ness wid his life..

jay z and the rest of these cocksucka house nicca scumbags wont part threy lips in condemnation of what the whiteman makes them do..

becuz these niccas is scared to death..


but they sum mobsters huh?  sum killas....sum kingpins..huh?



yeah, a drugkingpin mobster who has the FEDS on speed dial...against another nicca he was supposedly down wid..



CANT YALL NICCAS SEE ..HE ONLY ATTAIN S THIS SUCCESS BECUZ ALL OF THE DIFFERENT WHITE PENIS IN HIS AZZ AND THROAT..

AND THEY TELL HIM AND BEYONCE TO DO SUCH AND SUCH..AND THEY DO ITY LIKE GOOD LIL HOUSE NEEGROES



LET jIGGABOO Z RAP SUM FIGHT FOR FREEDOM TYPE SHET AGAINST THE WHITEMAN ...AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS....


mark my words....when the whiteman is thru wid Jay z and beyonce and any other sell out azz nicca..



They ll kill him.

watch....big time celebrity boule baphomet nicca is gonna die...and all the sheep will cry he was the best to ever do it.


why dont yall niccas just wear a t shirt that says..


THE WHITEMAN IS SUPERIOR..HE GIVES US OUR HEROES AND IDOLS..HE TELLS WHAT TO THINK, HOW TO FEEL..AND WHEN TO DO IT..HE EVEN HAS US NOT BELIEVEING IN THE MOST HIGH

BUT WE BELIEVE IN OBAMA AND LIL WAYNE AND JAY Z..

BECUZ WE REALLY ARE 3/5THS HUMAN BEINGS AND CANT STAND ON OUR OWN TWO FEET..WE NEED THE WHITEMANS DIRECTION..HES OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR..
October 31, 2009 3:03 AM
 

Six6SoCaliGuy said:

JAY Z IS LOYAL TO NO ONE BUT MEMP BLEEK!

I HEAR JAY'S POINT BUT HE CANT JUST MESS PEOPLE OVER LIKE THIS AND NOT EXPECT NIGGAZ TO TUCK THEY TAIL'S!!

JAY-Z AND P-DIDDY ARE LONG LOST BROTHERS LMAO

WESTIIIIDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
October 31, 2009 3:09 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 3:18 AM
 

b_goat76 said:

@King Joffy............Why Jay gota push Beans......Oh my bad Beans was too busy shooting folks in the stomach........takin care of street s hi t,................

Loayalty = Record deal, Record label, Clothing line......
October 31, 2009 3:22 AM
 

b_goat76 said:

JUDAH NAZURA  = Crab in the Barrel
October 31, 2009 3:26 AM
 

DonVitoDon said:

I guess Jay is trying to be like Switzerland. On some no beefing shit, so I don't need soldiers no more. That's why he ain't respond to all the shots coming at him from different cats. I guess that's cos of the ether he got few years ago. His soul has burnt slowly.
October 31, 2009 3:38 AM
 

BIGGA_DG said:

didnt jay give beans the bently? same one he had on volume 3?
October 31, 2009 3:42 AM
 

Beezwax said:

Yall can sit and specualate all you want but truth is no one knows the whole situation. And anybody who makes any judgement before knowing a situation in its entire is damn fool!! All yall know is what one man is claiming and now yall runnin wit it like its gospel. Is that all it really takes these days?? Now, i like the song...but...

I dont like the ending where i hear a man blaming another man for his misfortunes. At some point and time you gotta be accountable for your own shit. First of all the only reason people know ur name is because of Dame and Jay...and for that, and only that, u should be crediting Jay and Dame for... they put u on...period.  Now as for the rest....BROTHA U NEEDED TO MAKE THAT s**tHAPPEN FOR YOURSELF. U had albums, hit records, a label, movies..etc. How much did u really expect a n***a to do for u? What people fail to realize is that as much as hiphop is an entertainment, it is also a business! What u think your boss is gonna do if u miss a few weeks of work because u out f**kin off and now u caught some jail time. He gonna fire you!! And rightfully so. Your no longer producing for the company now and YOUR shortcomings are now becoming OUR shortcomings.  Dont get caught up in the bulls**t. Stop thinkin you got a friend. Jay aint ur friend, u didnt grow up wit Jay. Jay and Dame gave u an opportunity to blow...Its ur responsibility to now turn that opportunity into financial freedom!!  Real talk, n***as have made better careers with less!!!  Only friends u got are the ones u grew up wit...period. Thus Jay and Bleek, Fif and Yayo, and so on. There comes a time where u need to stop lookin for handouts. Like i said, You were given a home, a label, you made hit records, traveled, made movies...give 90 percent of brothas in the hood that opportunity and they would run wit it. Take it for what its worth and build on it. Stop blaming n***as and dry snitchin about how u feel they did u dirty....son you were given so much from the very start!!! Ur mistake was in thinkin it couldnt all be taken away as quick as it came. Beans crying about Jay didnt visit him in jail... n***a RECOGNIZE UR ROLL...stop thinkin you had a friend, you were signed, n***a you were an employee who made some dum ass decisions and caught jail time, and essentially became a financial liability to the wealth of the company. Simply put!! Shoulda did something with it when u had the chance.  I like both jay and beans and i hope they can sort this out, i really do. And now people talkin that Jay needs to respond...whats he to say? He gave a man an opportunity, is he supposed to hold his hand all the way? This wasnt no we been friends since the 3rd grade bulls**t. Fif said that he will forever be grateful to em and dre because they gave him an opportunity to blow...aside from that, HE did the rest!! Some people got it and some dont, thats just how it is. Look at Kanye. Dame and Jay didnt make Kanye. But they DID give him the opportunity to showcase himself and blow. Beanie, u were given the same tools, stop cryin. All u needed was the opportunity to showcase yourself and thats what u got and thats all u need now! U already got your name, your cred, your buzz, now just go out there and do you. U dont need Jay or anybody else holding ur hand through shit. Ur talented as hell and u spit better than most rappers out here still. This should be a learning lesson for Beans. The game is a "what have u done for me lately" type of game and the fans are the same way...if you aint producing, you're yesterdays news!!

this is why i really respect people like master p, the roots, slim thug, mike jones...they created they own buzz and kept they own name hot for as long as they could... BY THEMSELVES. Sold the s**tout they trunks on the streets just to keep the buzz goin. Even Soulja boy...created a buzz for himself on the net with silly dances and shit...whatever it takes!! Beanie, what have you done to create a demand for yourself?? Aint nothin given. Nowadays rappers lookin for someone else to do everything for them. And when they s**t falls they point the finger elsewhere.
October 31, 2009 3:51 AM
 

DJ Versatile said:

there would be no beanie siegel without jay-z. Dumb mooch needs to quit asking for handouts.  Can anyone name a beenie siegel record?  go get a real job and quit leaching off jay.  Beyonce was a blessing for him cause these losers are everywhere from every place and they hold people back.  shake these losers off and if they get mad, fk em.  they aren't your date you don't gotta buy em food and drinks.  this guy is hangin on like the t-1000 in terminator 2 on the trunk..haha what a dud
October 31, 2009 3:57 AM
 

b_goat76 said:

@Don...what is u talkin about.....none of that even matters......

Dudes takin shots has stopped WHAT?

Exactly
October 31, 2009 3:57 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

JoeyBeaver said:
Beans V Jay
Philly V New York

What a coincidence
-------------

empire state of mind cuzzo
October 31, 2009 4:19 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 4:20 AM
 

Its_BX_NYC_187 said:

Jay Won't Respond... He Acts Like He's Bigger Then The Music Now... He Was Going At Everyone's Head In Till NaS Eithered His Ass... And Now, For The Exception Of "Black Republicans" & "Ignorant Shit" Witch Are Both Old As Hell Already, He Won't Even Do A Collabo With A Real MC (Not These New Jacks That He Can Rap Circles Around And Still Have Much To Prove Lyrically) Like Jadakiss, Witch The Streets Been Waiting For Ever Since Jada Through Up The Diamond, Another Collabo With NaS, Eminem... I Wanna Hear Championship Title Bought Collabos Not Fixed Fights... No Disrespect To Drake, Kid Cuddie And J.Cole But Like I Said, They Still Have A Lot To Prove Lyrically... You Don't Get Recognized Or Even Mentioned In The Same Sentence As The Elite In Till You Drop A Classic Album... Them Tracks They Got Out Now Are Cool But Not Classic And That Goes For Cuddies Album Too In My Opinion...

And How Was Jay Not Able To Bring None Of His Artists With Him When He Left Def Jam But Was Able To Take Kanye West & Oversee Rihanna's Career Like A Puppet Master? Any One Who Believes That Is A Fucking Air Head And Is In Denial That Jay-Z Is A Little Grimmey... Why Would A Label Like Def Jam Let Him Take A Pop Superstar/Slash Super Producer That Sells A Bunch Of Records (Kanye) With Him And Still Work With Rihanna But Not Let Him Take Beanie Sigel And The Rest Of The Roc? Like Ed Lover Likes To Say, "C'Mon Son".... It Don't Take A Genius To See That That's A Bull-Sh!t Excuse For Not Holding His Artists Down... What's Roc-A-Fella/Roc Nation With Out Beans And The Hole State Property? A Guess A Bunch Of Gay Ass Pop Stars...
October 31, 2009 4:47 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 5:04 AM
 

Its_BX_NYC_187 said:

And For The Record I'm Still A Fan Of Jay-Z's Music But You Can't Really Blame Beans And The Rest Of The Roc... Them Cat's Weren't Getting Money Like That When They Were Touring With Jay... Him & Dame Was Telling Them It Was A Good Look Just For Them To Be Doing That, Basically Bamboozling Them, Witch Sounds More Like A Dame Dash Move... So When It Was Time For Them To Drop They Were Broke With A Crazy Ass Buzz In The Streets And The Industry... Hot Beats From Big Producers And Even Unknown Producers Depending On How Hot The Beat Is Costs Big Money And If You Don't Have That Crazy Production And Engineering Witch Also Costs Big Money Your Album Ain't Going No Where Period... The Label, Witch Was Jay, Dame & Biggz Wasn't Giving Them Real Money The Way They Would For A Jay-Z Album So You Can't Really Blame Them For Doing street s**tTo Get Money Because Thats What They Were Doing Before The Music... They Just Doing What They Know How To To Eat... The Only Thing You Can Blame Them For Is Slipping And Getting Caught And Getting Sent Up... Royalty Money Aint s**tIn Till You Drop... And Even Then You Have To Wait Till The Label Recoups Before You See A Penny From Your Album. And Those Checks Take A Little While To Come In. Tour Money Is Where The Real Money Is At... That's Why The The Hole Unit No Matter What People Say Is And Was Caked Up Crazy Off Of Touring With 50, Em & Dre... For The Exception Of Kanye Taking His s**tIn To His Own Hands Witch Was A Easier For him Because He's A Super Producer, He Can Make His Own Fire Beats And Even Get Fellow Producers To Look Out For Him... Most Rappers Don't Have That Luxury, Maybe A Hand Full Do... No One Else Really Popped Off After Jay & Dame Separated... It's Like Jay Said f**k Everyone, I'm Doing Me Witch Is Crazy Because They Were One Of The Nicest Rap Crews In The Game And Just Disappeared For No Reason... These Cats Need To Be Showing Loyalty And Unity Instead Of Breaking Up Over Egos And Political bulls**t... That's One Of The Main Reasons The Game Is Fucked Up Right Now Too... We Need To Go Back To Crazy Collabos Like "Verbal Intercourse", "Banned From TV", "Reservoir Dogs", "Usual Suspects", Etc....

October 31, 2009 5:26 AM
 

Apostle13 said:

@ JUDAH NAZURA
You here preaching but can't spell shit...go to school, take some spelling courses then approach on that intellectual s**tyou're spitting on...I'm tired of black folk putting each other down with the whole "coon" spiel...Why are Farrah Convicts always so mad???

@b_goat76
DonVitoDon has a point...Even Dame said after Ether that Jay lost track and wasn't in the right mind space.  To add salt to the wound, the comeback after that was a flop.  So in the words of Pac, "tell me who won???  They see me, they run..."  That sums it up homie...

October 31, 2009 5:38 AM
 

southsidakid said:

Jayz always been a snake ass n***a lol!!
October 31, 2009 6:53 AM
 

ExMcCloud said:

Its funny how NOBODY listened to what Beanz was saying...lol...He didn't care about Jay pushing him, or taking care of him....He cared about loyalty and friendship....He literally said "Jay I don't want yo money" and "I don't need no Santa Claus" on the record"...But Jay relates Beanz issue to money becuz THATS WHAT HE ALWAYS SAYS!! Comon bro be real he's pissed at the aftermath of everything and how Jay handled the WHOLE Roc-A-Fella situation....What really pissed him off was getting kicked out of the BP3 party...Also him asking Jay to be let out of his contract so he can do his own thing and Jay says NO becuz I need you but now he's saying dude never went plat so what else can I do for him? Lol...Man I love both of them but atleast acknowledge what Beanz is saying Hov literally didn't address ONE issue Beanz talked about in this interview becuz he cant
October 31, 2009 6:56 AM
 

Breed500 said:

This beef has two facets.First,Beans had a chance most would kill for..he had succes and all that comes with it.When you apply street morals to the music industry,you'll lose..there is no loyalty in this game,he should have learned that lesson early on.And lets not forget even within State Prop Beans had similar issues with some of the State Prop members.People not being compensated or just flat out jerked for their money.Jay been doing them dirty if you ask me.A lot of songs that are hits were State Prop members songs ("Give it to me" for example).So the pattern was already there.Second,if Jay felt he did all he could do for Beans he's missing the point.beans 's gripe with Jay is about loyalty not money.Which to me shows clearly that Jay has only one person's interest at heart at that is Jay-Z.From Dame and Biggs to DeHaven to Jaz, even Young Chris(he outright jacked his style,do the knowledge.. ) and the list goed on(Def Jam anyone?).So for Beans to be salty is suprising since Hova has a long trackrecord when it comes to shitting on people to advance himself..Beans had money and all that and should have carved his own lane,but he was content being a capo when he had 5 star potential.If you claim to be a boss..move like one..
October 31, 2009 7:13 AM
 

Outlaw76 said:

@Its_BX_NYC_187

You make some good points bruh.
October 31, 2009 7:45 AM
 

boomerz said:

jay-z seems a like a jackass. looks like he burned everyone around him to get to the top. he reminds me of p.diddy how he makes all this money and everyone around him seems to have horrible luck.
October 31, 2009 7:47 AM
 

boomerz said:

50's looking like a pimp once again. jay says no ones scared of 50. soon after g-unit's rumored to be looking at beanie sigel. 50 says jay is scared of beef and had beanie sigel handle it all for him. then here comes beanie sigel, dissing jay and bigging up 50. 50 is hands down the slickest dude in hip hop. jay's trying to play it off right here, but i bet inside, he's feeling a little scared of 50 right now.
October 31, 2009 7:50 AM
 

The_R_ said:

if y'all really heard the song, it ain't about money.
October 31, 2009 7:57 AM
 

StreetzRUS said:

This n***a Jay is Corney . We aint fucking with him no more.
October 31, 2009 7:57 AM
 

Seen Da Dream said:

How  come Beans kept saying it aint about the money and Jay responds by saying he drove two Bentleys????

WHAT IN THE F*CK??????????

N*GGA...... WHY DID YOU LEAVE UR MAN IN JAIL???????

and yall dudes riding with Jay are some girls......
probably backstab ur friends and blame it on jealousy too.....

damn halfway n*ggaz

October 31, 2009 8:13 AM
 

TheBossHimself973 said:

I think Im just gonna sit back and watch how this one plays out...........
October 31, 2009 8:15 AM
 

GrayMedium said:

It's funny how much everybody seems to know about this situation based on reading interviews and listening to songs... none of y'all were there when the cameras stopped rolling so nobody knows what the conversations were like between these two men.  

It's true that Jay didn't respond exactly to what Beans said was the problem... but in all fairness, Jay was asked a question by a reporter and he did give that reporter the exact answer.  A lot of y'all think Jay's response was to Beans song but that song just came out like a day or two ago so it's possible Jay hadn't heard it when he answered the question.  If you watch the video, you can see that the reporter didn't ask about Beans getting kicked out of a concert... the reporter didn't ask about loyalty.  So for one moment, understand that Jay Z answered the question that was posed to him so let's not make it seem like he sidetracked some question.  

Also, I have to agree with everybody that said that Beans is a grown man and has to do for himself.  Beans was down to ride for Jay because Jay was paying those bills... not because they were homies from way back when (because they wasn't).  But it's true, once an employee can't pull his weight that the company starts making cuts.  So as a grown ass man, Beans has to realize how far his employer's loyalty really goes.  Do you really expect your employer to jump in front of a bullet for you?  Well, if you are bringing all the money into the company he might.  But if you're the employee that's been given a corner office, a company car, extra holidays AND you're still not bringing in sales, then as soon as the company starts making cuts, guess who's going bye bye!  It wouldn't be a surprise to anybody with sense.  And it ain't nothing to be mad about either.  As a grown man with international fame (thanks to Roc-A-Fella), access to great producers, albums under his belts, a loyal fan base (all thanks to Roc-A-Fella again)... even if Jay did him dirty, he should know (because he's a grown ass man) that the music business is that way and just realize where you really stand with Jay.  Don't be mad.  Beans has more than enough to build a strong brand and if he can't do it, that's his problem to deal with.  I'd trade places with him in a heartbeat!  

And to even mention that you have info that could F*** up Jay's marriage... and then say this ain't a diss record.  Man, if one of my boys put it in the air that he has some info to F*** up my marriage and then said "this ain't a diss", I'd have to take it as a diss.  Because by Beans simply saying he has some info that could f*** up that situation is enough to cause a riff with Jay and his girl.  Where I'm from, even saying that much is a no-no because that little sentence is throwing salt in a n***a's game.  C'mon dude.  Then say it's not a diss?  They maybe even had a fight based off the fact that Beans said that little bit!  C'mon...
Just click my f***ing name, you lame bastards.
October 31, 2009 8:16 AM
 

Seen Da Dream said:

LMAO @ horned homosexual goat gods and being dead serious about it!

yall n*ggaz is killin me!
October 31, 2009 8:18 AM
 

TheBossHimself973 said:

  Seen Da Dream said:
How  come Beans kept saying it aint about the money and Jay responds by saying he drove two Bentleys????

WHAT IN THE F*CK??????????

N*GGA...... WHY DID YOU LEAVE UR MAN IN JAIL???????

and yall dudes riding with Jay are some girls......
probably backstab ur friends and blame it on jealousy too.....

damn halfway n*ggaz

100% Co-Sign!!
October 31, 2009 8:18 AM
 

HOT97 said:

HOT97 SAYS:Not a huge Jay-z fan, but he makes alot of sense..
October 31, 2009 8:23 AM
 

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October 31, 2009 8:29 AM
 

liquidswords95 said:

However you  put it, Beans is responsible for his own career, he a grown man, don't depend on the next man to handle  your business. i just want to hear Jay elaborate on the incident Beans is referring to, concerning him not releasing Beans, so he could sign with another Label. Everybody don't have the business acumen, of a Jay, Diddy, and 50 cent. That's why they need do research on the music business or hire a lawyer, to handle the paperwork.
October 31, 2009 8:33 AM
 

liquidswords95 said:

The truth and the Reason went gold respectively, I believe the Reason sold 800,000 copies, that's just short of platinum. He should of been making money, unless his contract was bad, or he just managed his money bad. If you putting up numbers like that, there's no way, you shouldn't of been making money.
October 31, 2009 8:41 AM
 

johnblacksad said:

boohoo beans..!!!!
Some of ya'll niggaz ain't serious, talkin bout it aint bout the money it's about the friendship... you know what Beans??!! Jay AINT your friend... ya'll are colleagues, no, matter fact, you his employee... your friends are the ones you grew up with. period. Jay is not your friend...
if what ya'll niggaz sayin is true, you know what ? i'd rather it be for the money at least it makes sense if a n***a shorted you... but a grown man gon cry because you don't wanna be my friend no more ? f**k that!!!
October 31, 2009 8:46 AM
 

Ashy2Clazzy said:

Co-sign Judah Nazura 100

"I feel for the 85s that don't have a clue..." Method Man on ODB's Rawhide.

FREE YOUR LIGHT
October 31, 2009 8:50 AM
 

disismyopinion said:

dis n***a jay like rafer alston...he skipped 2 my lou around errthang dat beans was sayin...aight cool u put him on, record deal, label, clothing line...but he wanna kno lol y u aint see him when he was locked up...y u aint send him a post card or do a soulja boy and kiss him thru da fone...hov need 2 answer errthang, but s**ti guess when u got bread u aint gotta answer errthang...guess beans do gotta take sum responsibility for sum of da shit, but hov played a part in dis s**t2...
October 31, 2009 8:53 AM
 

Chucky757 said:

Why wouldn't Jay try to down play tha situation by talkin about what Beans was driving and all that other shit, after that man said it wasnt about tha money. Just give him that one on one talk that he's asking for, and handle this situation like men. Or are you not man enough to talk to him face to face.

And as far as everything else, I'm not sayin I kno what's really going on, but I don't see Beans lying about this, I mean to many people sayin that Jay a snake. He don't need anyone else but Kanye and ol girl, cuz they his bread winners right now. Let's be honest State Prop can't sell no records the way tha music biz is now they to grimmey, music now is watered down, and wack as  hell.

So if Bleek willin to talk to Beans, Jay just man up and get off that high horse n***a, and holla at yo boy. And for tha record if you part owner and tha man on yo own label then it's your duty and yo job to make sure everyone is good. So not only do you promote yo shit, but you suppose to put in tha same effort for yo artist too and if you have to be on there first single (50, Nelly, the white boy, etc.) you do that to make sure they have a chance of being successful, cuz you gonna be eating off them to. But for ya'll n***as talkin bout if ya'll was in his shoes ya'll would do this and that, yea right. You know nothing bout the business, you only can do as much as they let you do without tha machine behind you,  and even then it's on there terms.

Clown ass n***as ya'll kill me
October 31, 2009 8:54 AM
 

liquidswords95 said:

Also if you go to jail, you shouldn't expect no one to come and see you, except your Mother and maybe your Woman, but to be real they not obligated, to come visit you either. People putting themselves in Jail and think they is entitled to a visit from folks, what kind of thinking is that?  I see some of ya'll points, but this is a business, like someone said, friend is people you growup with, or someone you knowing all your life. Beans was Jay employee, and that's how you got to look at it, nothing more, nothing less. Also, Jay know who to take along with him to the Roc Nation, Kanye and Rihanna is both international stars, Jay know who bringing in the cash, that's why he is a good businessman.
October 31, 2009 8:59 AM
 

johnblacksad said:

ha ha ha... i just heard the diss track... 7minutes long ? ha ha c'mon Sig... u can't be serious u gon cry that much?!! lol... 7 f**kin minutes

i'm laughin but this is actually a sad day for hip hop...
"i can say some s**tthat'll make B look at you different"... so you b***h niggaz are here co-signing this sh!t?! lol... i swear hate is blind... this is worse than a straight b***h move... this is a lesbian b***h move right there!!!

I love the n***a but nah... f**k BEANS... stoopid ass couldn't make a livin for himself... if ain't about the money, why is the track saying "i 'aint your average cat, I'M TRYIN TO MAKE CREAM AND JUST THAT"?... lol... nah, seriously, Bean sounds stupid as f**k though, at the very end, he like "the richest man is the one that still got his first friend"... well, guess what Beans ??!!: YOU AIN'T JAY's FIRST FRIEND... now man up and get the f**k out here before i realise that you're just a Broad... no Street Bully!!!


But ya n***as cosigning that snitching shit... ya'll some b***h niggaz... nah, worse, ya'll some hatin ass b***h niggaz!!!
October 31, 2009 9:02 AM
 

liquidswords95 said:

@BigEast76Cide

Whenever you come to this Thread, Mavericks 94, Lakers 80, what happened to your Lakers, you was talking the Mavs was going to take a Lost. The Matrix Shawn Marion was running wild on ya'll last night, don't sleep on the Mavs, they got a deeper team than i anticipated. Mark Jackson and Stan Van Gundy said the same thing, If they play Dirk Nowitzki at Center, it ain't to many teams that can matchup with the Mavs. Keep in mind Josh Howard is still hurt. Also the way Carmelo Anthony playing for Denver, Lakers will have a hardtime repeating as Champs.
October 31, 2009 9:06 AM
 

liquidswords95 said:

I agree, that's a b***h move, to say i got something on you that will make Beyonce look at you differently. That's like some female stuff right there.
October 31, 2009 9:13 AM
 

johnblacksad said:

I ain't seen Bean grind nowhere near half of the grinding my n***a Freeway did... I don't ever hear Freeway complain, if anything, he'll mention Hov always in a grateful manner.

So, REAL TALK : Niggaz OWE niggaz jail visits now ? c'mon, please somebody answer me seriously!

Niggaz tryin to sit down and settle with their boos and do the right thing, and they gotta go upstate visit niggaz in prison who still livin that reckless life and go to jail for attempting murders on teenagers? ...smh... answer me!!!
October 31, 2009 9:15 AM
 

Ashy2Clazzy said:

liquidswords95 said:
@BigEast76Cide

Whenever you come to this Thread, Mavericks 94, Lakers 80, what happened to your Lakers, you was talking the Mavs was going to take a Lost. The Matrix Shawn Marion was running wild on ya'll last night, don't sleep on the Mavs, they got a deeper team than i anticipated. Mark Jackson and Stan Van Gundy said the same thing, If they play Dirk Nowitzki at Center, it ain't to many teams that can matchup with the Mavs. Keep in mind Josh Howard is still hurt. Also the way Carmelo Anthony playing for Denver, Lakers will have a hardtime repeating as Champs.

------

Don't tell em nothing. The Lackers benefited from KG getting injured last year and now Denver, Dallas, and Portland are better--the Lackers didn't improve. Not to mention fake MJ #2 (LBJ) has Shaq now and Big Sheed is in Boston. Fake MJ #1 (Kobe) only added Artest (Rodman wannabe) and the rest of them clowns are feelin themselves to the point that they have gotten caught up in the HOLLYwood lifestyle; shotgun weddings & sh!t. SMH. Hell naw they aint repeatin!
October 31, 2009 9:22 AM
 

Ashy2Clazzy said:

johnblacksad said:

So, REAL TALK : Niggaz OWE niggaz jail visits now ? c'mon, please somebody answer me seriously!

Niggaz tryin to sit down and settle with their boos and do the right thing, and they gotta go upstate visit niggaz in prison who still livin that reckless life and go to jail for attempting murders on teenagers? ...smh... answer me!!

----

Say word! Ni99az be gettin mad at smart ni99az for isolating themselves from da dumb ni99az these days. I tell these young catz around here, man don't ever fucc with a ni99a who aint got sh!t to lose--cuz he wont have a problem puttin it ALL on da line even over some petty sh!t. But for real Beans, unless you willing to bow to that sh!t Jiggaboo is bowing too--you might wanna consider yourself lucky that he respected you enough not to try to initiate you cuz when ni99az like Beans get outta line with the men in black---IT's CURTAINS ni99a!
October 31, 2009 9:29 AM
 

TwistLs said:

I dont giva f**k about jay! point blank I like big L ova jay any day lol
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October 31, 2009 10:15 AM
 

enviabletruth said:

Beans was a grown ass man when he signed his contract with the Roc. He can't be mad at the end of the day when he spent all his money and tried to jump ship. n***as talk all this business s**tin songs but don't even understand how business works, its a shame. Beans is a talented dude its just sad to see grown ass men trying to depend on other grown ass men. Grow up!
October 31, 2009 10:27 AM
 

DAPHATMAN803 said:

is it me or does jay-z sound like he hating a lil cuz beans come up on a lot of s**tkinda quick. for real beans got on and hustled hard sold almost a mil. now jay-z sittin there like he give beans all that beans made them moves himself cuz if jay-z was just handing out labels, Clothing line why didn't everybody on the roc have them then. jay-z was jelly of beans for beans to have so much early in his career think about jay-z had to sell his soul to diddy to go platinum. and what to all the acts that where on the roc when they first came out the r&b group, da ranjahz all those people why and how did they leave the roc label
October 31, 2009 10:30 AM
 

livewyre10 said:

The music industry is a pimp and ho game! Stop gettin emotional!
October 31, 2009 10:35 AM
 

DAPHATMAN803 said:

jay-z didn't answer the question of why he did let beans out of his deal let him answer that shit.  jay-z does this interviews but never answers question straight always a lil joke then some kind of sarah palin type of answer with alot of i'm just sayin and that nervous laughing s**the got
October 31, 2009 10:40 AM
 

DAPHATMAN803 said:

but then again beans should have been up on his old school and he would have known

"Industry rule #4080/Record company people are shady. ..."

bottom line the muisc biz is and always be a pimp / hoe system


 livewyre10 said:
The music industry is a pimp and ho game! Stop gettin emotional!
October 31, 2009 10:45 AM
 

Bklyn817 said:

How ever you look at this situation there is fault on both sides, but the majority of the fault is with Beans. Yes he was given an opportunity that some fight a life time for. Lets not forget how he got the deal either (No demo, no song , just a freestyle in a club). Also he has had sit downs with Jay and Dame about changing his ways to become a better business man, but he couldn't commit to the change (fault #1). Then falls deeper and deeper into his drug issues something that many have tried to help him with, but he refused help and did him (fault #2). Then there is the shooting and jail time no ones fault but his (fault #3).

Then there is the label deal and SP. Beans was too busy riding around in his Bentleys trying to be like Dame and Jay with out the Business sense. Beans wanted to sign everyone of his philly boys but he forgot one thing rappers don't get signed to rap they get signed to make hit songs and good records something most of SP couldn't do. Good rappers yes no so good song writers. Beans was signed to ROC in 97-98 this is now 2009. If things were really bad we would have been hearing this along time ago. Over time Beans became a liability not an asset. Everywhere he went he got into brawls just because "he's that Real". Real cats carry themselves as such because that is what their environments call for but if you remove yourself from those surroundings then you are required to adjust to a new environment in order to survive that is just natural law. Why do cat become famous, get money, and move out the hood to just walk around with that hood mentality everywhere they go. That is not a formula for success it is a formula for failure.

Jay has done some folks dirty, He has turned his back on a few and neglected friends (Fault #1) He is also guilty of creating these phantom relationships with artists who think "yo this dude Jay is my brother, my friend for life" (Fault #2). Although Russell has had good relationships with his artists you may never here one of them speak about him like Beans is doing with Jay. Lyor, Mattola, Russell and many other executives avoid these issues by keeping things business nothing more nothing less something Jay has failed to do until he decides to cut you off then its all business.

In the end Beans like many artists new and old who complain about money, or lack of radio play, or sales or those who complain that Jay should move over and give others a shot can only blame one person for their lack of success THEMSELVES. 50 has become one of the richest entertainers in Hip Hop and has done so in less then 10 Years of true mainstream exposure (50 was on his grind and took his career in his own hands from jump) Em sells records doing his own thing making music his fans love. Kanye sells records doing quality music. Luda is consistent, Ross is consistent, Snoop, Fab, Wayne. These dudes have taken charge of their careers and have done well. Hard work takes you a long way because nothing is guaranteed and the only one you can rely on to get you what you want is YOU. This is the say in any area of business and at any position in the company, you will only go as far as the work you put in. From the mail room to the board room everyone must prove themselves and show that they were given this opportunity for a reason. A career is a long term Job something you saw yourself doing for the majority of your life, but that doesn't make it less of a job. If I worked at McDonalds and I was given the opportunity to flip burgers and I decided I was going to get arrested and do drugs and shoot people then my boss has alright to turn his back on me because I let him down. Sorry to say it but with all the opportunities Beans has had he messed up and let Jay down the fall of ROC may have been both Jay and Dame, but the fall of SP is Beans and Beans alone how can a business run successfully when the boss in locked up and on drugs. You do the math.
October 31, 2009 10:49 AM
 

DAPHATMAN803 said:

yeah jay-z answerd the question of what beans had but what do he do the help this man get that s**tdid he sit in the studio feeding him lines and give beans hooks or choosing beats for him or did he just shows up and  charge him for guest spots on records and for being in his videos

like fifty always says about the game i give him his first three singles
October 31, 2009 10:54 AM
 

ronblack1 said:

alotta u n***as missed the whole point of what beans was tryna say....it ain't about money....how many yall "street" dudes is from the streets like yall proclaim?...cuz it's lookin like not alot...if you and your homies come up together..get paper together..build the franchise together...then you hold that man down when he on a crutch..no matter what..cuz that's ya man rite?..he put in work for you..handled dirt for you so your hands can stay clean..so you wouldn't have to face harm...that's what beans was talkin bout...when a n***a who handles your dirty laundry gets locked up...u hold him down..cuz if the roles were reversed he'd do the same for u...and if u do him dirty.. he gets out, comes at u sayin he could get money somewhere else...u salute, give him your best wishes and let him go on his way.....which u don't do is use ya man's situation to benefit u the best...what you don't do is call the police on your most loyal soldier and have him escorted outta  the building at your show..what you don't do is let ya mans sit in prison and not holla at him once...
October 31, 2009 11:07 AM
 

ronblack1 said:

and alotta u dudes used jay's wealth and status as a suitable excuse for him to cut ties with n***as who helded get him where he is...wtf is that about??..it's ok to treat best friends like u don't know em when you make a couple dollars...it's ok when your mans fall down a bit, you in a position to put him in a better place, but you don't, u just act like you never knew that n***a anyway....i'm guessin its ok to say since i'm worth so much revenue...visiting jail ain't a good look to my business partners who wouldn't give a s**tabout me if something happens to me..but homie in jail would took bullets with/for me if need be...smh...that's what beans was talkin bout..and if u can't respect that and thinks that jay made the rite movements the way he did...then maybe alotta u n***as ain't as "real" as yall think...
October 31, 2009 11:14 AM
 

dynastydiva said:

OKAY...ROC NATION IN THIS SHYT AND I COME TO SPEAK FROM A REAL PERSPECTIVE... NOT AN OPINION FULED BY EMOTIONS I MEAN FACT...... FACT IS JAY DOES BIG BUSINESS WHILE THESE NAGGAS STUCK ON STUPID.

IF BEANS REALLY WAS GANSTER AND GULLY AS HE SAY HE KNOWS HOW THE GAME GOES...AS A MAN U STAND ON YOUR OWN TWO FEET WHEN U FEEL THAT A NAGGA HAS WRONGED AND U FEELING SOME SORTA WAY U MOVE ON WHAT U DONT DO IS START THE WHINING AND BOO HOO'N AND EXPOSE URSELF AS A BYTCH.

THE FACT IS JAY GAVE NAGGAS EVERY OPPURTUNITY TO MAKE IT IN THE GAME BUT REMEMBER...IT'S A GAME IF U AINT STRONG ENOUGH TO MAKE IT..... FALL BACK

DYNASTY DIVA
ROC NATION

http://www.roc4life.com/profile/Missbehavin203
October 31, 2009 11:32 AM
 

b_goat76 said:

Ya'll really on some retard s**twith this Loyalty sh1t.......
Beans had an opportunity and fumbled.......whats so hard to see......
So Jay suppose to give him a second opportunity....GTFOH.....

October 31, 2009 11:32 AM
 

dynastydiva said:

THIS IS SO STUPID
October 31, 2009 11:36 AM
 

chocolaterain said:

hey peeps. the movement by the fans against Jay-Zs shady ways has moved to twitter

heres what you do

just go on your twitter pages and type “BOYCOTT JAY-Z”
October 31, 2009 11:41 AM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

world champ said:
@BIGEAST

I goto school for 2 hours and come back and LAMELIGHT09 is back!!! LOl wanting attention so bad hes sittin in front of the comp at the local lib on his payed internet minutes trying to get you to say something so he has something to do all night!!LOL this dude need to partner up with SEARS COWRD and jump off that sears tower together!
________________________________________________
this sucka!

hi world cup!

there you happy
i spoke to you
October 31, 2009 11:54 AM
 

liquidswords95 said:

@chocolaterain

I'm sure Jay-Z don't care about no twitter, he can buy the whole twitter network.....lol. Also real guys don't tweet, Although, i bet it's alot og guys up here, be tweeting like Fabulous.
October 31, 2009 11:56 AM
 

Geno77 said:

Its three sides to a story. But one thing is real you going to jail for dumb s**tputting the roc label in a tight spot then Jay went to court with Beans and supported him to an exstint Jay dosnt have to be loyal he was the roc by himself way before Beans. I like both Mc's but real is real if I was Beans i wouldnt let my pride get in the way never let them see you sweat if he needed money or something he should have took it when Jay offered Plus he should have been in better control of his finances. I think realy that Jada over there with Jay thats a problem for him too hate shows in so many ways but no one realy can diss Jay because he's in a very safe place in his life period and he still on top.
October 31, 2009 12:02 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

JAY GET AT THAT n***a SIGEL

BLEEK GET AT THAT n***a SIGEL

ON VOL 3 THAT n***a JAY SAID:

I brought the suburbs to the hood
Made em relate to your struggle, told em bout your hustle
Went on MTV with do-rags, I made them love you
You know normally them people wouldn't be f**kin witchu
Til I made em understand why you do what you do
I expected to hear, "Jay, if it wasn't for you.."
But instead, all I hear is buzzin in your crew
October 31, 2009 12:27 PM
 

SaluateYaGeneral said:

JAY GET AT THAT n***a SIGEL

BLEEK GET AT THAT n***a SIGEL

ON VOL 3 THAT n***a JAY SAID:

I brought the suburbs to the hood
Made em relate to your struggle, told em bout your hustle
Went on MTV with do-rags, I made them love you
You know normally them people wouldn't be f**kin witchu
Til I made em understand why you do what you do
I expected to hear, "Jay, if it wasn't for you.."
But instead, all I hear is buzzin in your crew
October 31, 2009 12:27 PM
 

BIGJONMAN said:

Like that old saying goes.  You can lead a horse to water but you can't make em drink.  
October 31, 2009 12:32 PM
 

IM_READY said:

IM_READY said:
beans im feeling you dog, but if you gon aim to shoot........ then shoot to kill.



Just like in the streets, sometimes same rules apply everywhere, beans you may as well do what 50 did to JA and end Jay's career....




i know you can dog. Beans you got street credibility, in nowadays when Jay talks about drug dealin and shooting up shit, we all know he more likely to be on Wall street, he aint in the streets no more...


Im saying Beans.... end this n***a's career!. Rise to power, THE TAKE OVER!




"streets is watching".........remember?  at the end of the day business wise  the labels and the radio always want and play what most people want and as long as real beef sales you may as well do it beans.




Jay is  old anyway , he was suppose to be retired already, i aint no Jay's hater i love some of his music, but beans can have the mixtape game on fire, beans done this n***a!


October 31, 2009 1:03 AM
October 31, 2009 12:51 PM
 

khaos59 said:

@liquidswords95 the lakers did get embaressed last night but thats only because gasol wasnt playing i guarente the next time they play and they got fisher,kobe,odem,gasol and bynum they wont lose like that they just trynna find out what lineup best helps them to get back to the finals i was smh last night they looked sloppy as hell but they will be the top team in the west this year with denver in second i see the celtics with a healthy garnett goin to the finals against the lakers but this time the lakers get their revenge in 7
October 31, 2009 12:56 PM
 

mylifewright said:

damn whenever i happen to get on here i see majority of motherfuckas (not all) always talkin like they got the answer/remedy to other people lives like they know the moves certain people should make or what not and most of you n***as at hood critcs i dont know what to say

most motherfuckas pay to much attention and trying to figure out other people lives and bizness situtations where they forget about they own life. damn shame im started to think this internet s**tis ah escape route for those people who trying to run away from they own reality but as soon as they log off they own reality smack they fake ass in the face

and on that note i hope wateva stituation beans in mental and financial be iight


@ judah

man joe you spoke/ type some real s**tcuz its alot of devilish s**tgoing on from them corporate machines thats why we/my circle just stayin on this underground independent money route state ta state cuz them corporate motherfuckas will make a n***a kill they ass real talk



@ liquid

tell me joe wats tha difference from a n***a tweetin and a n***a on here gossipin bout other people lives huh even though i dont tweet (im into to much s**tout here) but if i did i would rather tweet to network with others bout some money then gettin on ahh gossipin bout other people lives ya dig






FREE MY LIL BRO' AND THEM POLICTICAL PRISONERS (CHUCH)






EAST SIDE CRAZY (CHICAGO TIL DA WORLD BLOW)

October 31, 2009 12:59 PM
 

fin333 said:

Bottom line. Dumb ass ni**az acting like they in a mafia family. Rocafella aint no gang its a record label. Jay-z 's job is to make smart buisness decisions, so is Seigals. Stop crying so damn much. What did seigal do with his chance...... shit, fucked them off with a dumb ass criminal case, while he had a label and a clothing line to run. He first was jocking Dash Music group then he blamed dame when that didn't work now its jays fault. Ni**a please, And as far as him being on Jays level, thats not even possible, he was jays son he is not now nor will he ever be as good as jay and anybody that thinks he was , is, or can be is out their fucking minds.
October 31, 2009 1:03 PM
 

khaos59 said:

@ashy2clazzy the lakers didnt benefit from kg last year they still would of one kobe wouldnt of let his team loose twice to the celtics in the finals did u see wat he did against the nuggets last year he had to work harder than ever and that showed that he was gonna do watever it took just to win people thought he was finished after that denver series cause he was winded thought he gave his all in that series and had nothing left but he proved everybody wrong averaging i think it was 30 or more a game in the finals against the orlando magics and the magics had a hell of a team but the lakers mad it look easy i see the celtics vs the lakers this year in the finals but the lakers get revenge from 08 in 7 games
October 31, 2009 1:13 PM
 

liquidswords95 said:


@mylifewright

I think tweeting is different from being on a website making comments about a topic. Not to mention tweeting is out there for everyone to see, at least on all hip hop, it's a community of people that's up here only. Also you don't follow people on all hip hop, when you twitter, they say follow me on twitter and all that crap. That's the difference, but if you want to tweet, do what you want, it don't matter to me. It seems like people that tweet on a constant basis, don't have a life.
October 31, 2009 1:16 PM
 

yomitsuki ongaku said:

and hopefully this will end all the bulls**t whiny talk from sigel.

but knowin some of you ignorant ass "street n***as", it wont be.
some moron somewhere is gonna gas beanie's head up as if he mattered, and try to make more bulls**t diss songs.
GROW UP AND GET A HOLD OF YOUR OWN LIFE. MAKE SOMETHING OF YOURSELF, ON YOUR OWN TWO FEET.
October 31, 2009 1:22 PM
 

thaman1010 said:

These lames on here talking about Jay is old and beans should end is career, who gives a f**k if jay is old he still runs all of the young dumb wack fucks in the rap game these n***as are young and are already washed up while jay is still making hits and selling records rapping circles around these young clowns. And neither beanie nor any other rapper could end jay's career it's already set in stone check his fucking catalog b***h n***as how many hit records do you have? f**k beans that ungrateful fat greasy f**k jay set this f**k boy up lovely and all beans could do was piss it away. Beans was never business minded he was too busy trying to keep it "real". The fat boy is mad because jay and dame won't mess with him and he can't sell and records that's all this is about. Beanie always gets arrested around his release dates and you can't arrested and go to court for free....
October 31, 2009 1:31 PM
 

thaman1010 said:

Oh yeah f**k a tweet you b***h made punks. n***as these days are tweeting while wearing their tight jeans this s**thas to stop.
October 31, 2009 1:33 PM
 

yomitsuki ongaku said:

hopefully this will end all the bulls**t whiny talk from sigel.

but knowin some of you ignorant ass "street n***as", it wont be.
some moron somewhere is gonna gas beanie's head up as if he mattered, and try to make more bulls**t diss songs.

YOU ARE 35 f**kin YEARS OLD DWIGHT GRANT AKA BEANIE!

GROW UP AND GET A HOLD OF YOUR OWN LIFE. MAKE SOMETHING OF YOURSELF, ON YOUR OWN TWO FEET.
October 31, 2009 1:38 PM
 

IM_READY said:

Let's talk about FACTS.........


DID JAY-Z call the cops on SIG, or he DIDNT?..........HE did....

THAT's WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.........

b***h made SNITCH!

i dont care how some people may tryina justify that s**tbut AS long as you affiliated with HIP-HOP, calling the cops and SNITCHING is a  NO-NO! especially in those circumstances! it was really uncalled for!

BUT F! right? in nowadays thanks to rappers like C.O RIck Ross! T.I a.k.a mister get knock with SUBMACHINE GUNS and get less than 1 yr in JAIL on FEDERAL charges!! its alright to party and walk with the Feds right? right 50? right JAY?

HIPHOP Today has lost its credibility! its starting to look more like the WWE of music..... strictly entertainment...


Hiphop used to have morals and codes...where they at now?

OH wait, some yall saying that if the money is right its alright for you to sell YOUR SOUL and Beliefs right?

MOfo's forcing real hiphop fans to go back and listen to the late 80's and early 90's  hiphop, coz s**tis bubble gum music today!

JUST FYI rappers, its ok to make real hiphop, stick to your beliefs and codes without selling your soul even if you dont go plantinum!
Look at some rappers like STyles P, he may never went plat but not only he still reps it for the hood and the people struggling he also aint living on welfare or sleeping on the streets nomore, which means yes u can still make money and live ok.

The problem is with those rappers that will go against their belief and hiphop's morals just to sell millions. They just as good as politicians that make promises that they wont keep!SLaves of WHite Corporate AmeriKKKa,  cowards!

Real hiphop still sells, maybe not millions but u wont be broke neither. So f**k all you sell out rappers! i feel no sorrow when their chains and watches get snatched in Africa! LOL that could never happen to Nas, Talib Kweli, STyles P , Dead Prez, Immortal TEch and many more! as long as you can still eat then why sell out ?
October 31, 2009 1:49 PM
 

Jritoc said:

If ya man see you eatin a seafood platter and asks for some of your fish and you give him some then you teach the nicca to fish, buy him a fishin rod and a row boat then he turns around sells the fishin rod and the row boat then starts stealin other niccas fish and jackin they boats then comes back to you askin for shelter knowin good and damn well you done gave him hella game but he just stuck in his ways how much more can you do for him? Seriously.  Some niccas just don't want to do for they selves.  Jay is one of my favorite rappers but as a person it's been proven time and time again that he aint the best morally or loyaly.  We all know this. Beans is a beast on that mic but he has a certain demographic he can reach cause he's just gonna do him regardless and I respect him for that.  But when you bring the streets to the boardroom you are never gonna win.  Jay taught all these niccas to fish so they should be able to eat off of they own plates by now.  Mac was on every Roc album from like 99-03 but there comes a point when as a artist YOU HAVE TO GROW.  Everything I need to know about Beanie Segal I learned on his first 2 albums and the State Property Albums.  I love good music just as much as the next man but how much dope can a nicca really push?  How many niccas can you kill on records then go out dumpin on niccas and doin drive byes and keep wantin ya peoples to get you out from situations that you caused.  If you got enough money to be pushin 2 300k plus cars you should have enough money to bail yourself out if need be. I can't keep listenin to all these rap cats that rap about keepin it real then start cryin when keepin it real goes wrong. Everybody got a story to tell here's mine

http://www.myspace.com/jritoc  or just click my name  
October 31, 2009 1:56 PM
 

Sovietnam said:

it was all good just a week ago.........
October 31, 2009 1:59 PM
 

mikeclassic said:

oh now he's not dissin him. he was just emotional. get soem balls.  jay cant sit em on his lap.
October 31, 2009 2:10 PM
 

mikeclassic said:

oh now he's not dissin him. he was just emotional. get soem balls.  jay cant sit em on his lap.
October 31, 2009 2:10 PM
 

gorgan said:

October 31, 2009 2:14 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

SYG

DONT FEED THESE ANIMALS MY n***a

THEY AINT READY

THEY STILL LOOKING FOR A GROWN MAN TO TAKE CARE OF THEM
October 31, 2009 2:18 PM
 

Shame_One said:

Stop hating on Jay. The is a lot more that goes into being a success in the music industry than you people realize. A good portion of it is almost uncontrollable. A lot of artist should have been bigger than they are. Also, comparing ANY G-UNIT member to Beans is not realistic. He is 1000X more gritty than any 2 of them combined. Them dude are polished to a shine. . . Beans wanted to keep his dirty image.

Which G-UNIT member has a clothing line, label or two Bentleys? NONE!!!
October 31, 2009 2:26 PM
 

mylifewright said:

@liquid



you mean to tell me if a n***a spend hours on here on a daily basis gossipin bout other people and commentin on s**tthat dont pertain to the own life that they got a life theyself? i can understand if a person get on here every now and then, comment on music they like or even certain issues thats going on in the world and move on(like myself) and focus on they own life but wheneva i happen to get on here i be straight seeing motherfuckas gossip like women bout other n***as choices and issues that other people going thru and then have the nerve to get mad about it lol like its affectin they life lol thats what im talking bout



and as for that twitter s**tdont majority of them be famous so im pretty sure they doing summthang wit the life and wasnt it built for a promo tool but i would say if a motherfucka not using ot as a networking or promo tool and using that s**tto gossip bout other people lives like women (point i was making bout some people on here) and if they see some street s**thappen on the street or in the club and run and advertise it on twitter  now thats some p***y ass/dry snitch s**ton my momma

and for the record ahh is not a community (common union) cuz everybody and the momma check this s**tout from all walks of life some more then others from squares,geeks,famous rappers,(seen it 1st hand),real street n***as etc... believe me when i tell ya because if i wouldve never came home in got house arrest in summer of 07' i wouldnt probally still never knew about ahh and gettin on the internet period (nothing to glorify its just the truth)




@the man 1010

damn lol readin yo s**ti wouldnt be surprise if you was pressin them buttons hard as hell lol calm down n***a but i do agree wit that skinny jean/homo s**tit do need to stop shitted it never should've started






FREE MY LIL BRO AND THEM POLICTICAL  PRISONERS (CHUCH)





EAST SIDE CRAZY (CHICAGO TIL DA WORLD BLOW)




October 31, 2009 2:29 PM
 

bree101 said:

First Beans is not talking about money. He just wanted to talk to Jay about the whole Roc break-up. Second Jay gave Beans a Bentley, so what does this have to do with loyalty. See all you cats on here talkin about Beans is a grown man, stop whining is missing the point. When some one is ur man they hold u down no matter what, but black people have no loyalty to each other they all about self thats why we the only race fight our self while everybody else is makin power moves, and Obama is not a power move. Jay called the FEDS on his man but he the realest nicca in the game? Jay did not call no one on the ROC to tell them it was over they heard it like we did on the internet. But this nicca is real. Im from BK, Crown Heights, Jay has broken ever rule for claimin to be a street dude. Be a man stop hiding and tell the truth. You use niccas and keep it movin. Jay has not only sold out his people but he sellin out BK with that Nets stadium because its only poor blacks gettin the shaft, so all u Jay d**k riders open ur eyes this dude dont give f**k about HIP HOP its all about HIM runnin the MAP.

And to all u half way niccas being friend is being there all the time. You bitchesssssssss.....lol
October 31, 2009 2:37 PM
 

StylesDC said:

Beans I aint tryn change you, jus give you some game,

to make the transition, from the streets to the fame
October 31, 2009 2:41 PM
 

liquidswords95 said:


@mylifewright

do you know how many people homes got robbed, because they was tweeting, I'm going to be out of town such and such date, that's stupid to give out personal info like that, Also who really cares about where someone is going to be or who they going to be with. Also like you said people do snitch via twitter, giving out personal information about people, You got to keep some things private. It ain't about being in the streets, ain't nothing in the streets, but trouble anyway. So i would rather someone be on a site like this, than hanging out in the street getting in trouble, at least you know you ain't doing nothing, that will get you lockedup. But to each it's own, I'm not the tweeting type.
October 31, 2009 2:58 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Lol...

At the end of the day, once folks are done callin' Jay the devil, sayin' Jay is evil, sayin' Jay ain't do this, and Jay ain't do that...

Once all that is said and done, it still comes down to this...

BEANS IS IN THE POSITION HE IS BECAUSE HE COULDN'T ACT RIGHT.

PERIOD!

I don't care if you like Jay, or you think Jay is the biggest snake that ever lived.  It didn't matter who put Beans on...he wasn't stayin' out the clink.  And if you in the clink, you can't promote your album, you can't promote yourself period.  You can't get money for doing shows, and everybody knows this day and age you need to be doing SHOWS to get money (unless you big name like Jay and get endorsements and business deals).

This niccah had a CLOTHING line!  GTFOH with all that dumb talk...

Beans d*cked himself.  Beans goes hard with the rhymes, but half his albums dropped while he was either in prison or on the way to prison.  He did himself in...with his attitude...

Quit blaming everybody for ya'lls issues...lazy n***as
October 31, 2009 3:10 PM
 

HotCharlotte said:

Beans is jus mad cuz he broke.
October 31, 2009 3:17 PM
 

BIG DAME 414 said:

JAY AIN'T DO s**tBUT WHAT EVERY OTHER DUDE THAT GROWS UP IN THE HOOD DO, STARTED DOING DOING THE RIGHT SHIT, WHILE OTHER CATS STILL WANT TO BE HOOD AND STREET. WHEN YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL, YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE PEOPLE SAYING YOU OLE THEM OR AIN'T LOOKING OUT. WHO ON HERE DON'T KNOW SOMEBODY,IF NOT YOURSELF, DIDN'T CHANGE THE WAY THEY LIVE AND THINK AND HAD UR FRIENDS SAY YOU CHANGE. EVEN THOUGH THE CHANGE MADE YOU A BETTER MAN OR WOMAN.
October 31, 2009 3:33 PM
 

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October 31, 2009 3:39 PM
 

general_J_Hood said:

lol GD till the world blow up , p stones runn it... classic
October 31, 2009 4:00 PM
 

mylifewright said:

@liquid


for the record lets make this clear my n***a f**k twitter lol ya dig


and as for the street thing my n***a take this how you take it but imma always be active in these streets but listen 1st not saying im still active in banging and still running wild and s**tlike that but imma always be active in these streets becuz i feel and showed myself and people in this neighorhood (eastsidecrazy aka southside) imma be one of those ones who make a differrance in these streets and stay connected to these kids and certain ones that wanna make a change or at least strive for a change for instance the weekend before the 1st day of school for the kids around here  me and a couple n***as from my circle spent hours cuttin about 30-40 kids hair  outside for free and from the heart and that comes from me staying active in these streets and hopefully by this coming spring we trying to get this blessing and grants to open up a temp agency/jobplace for only ex-cons ya dig and that comes from staying in these streets cuz i see wats going on 1st my n***a and thats the problem now a days most of these so-called n***a who say they was in these streets so when they get a certain age or a certain amount of money they try to avoid and i must say again avoid this s**tthats going own and most n***as who say they from the streets be lyin that might've lived in the hood but wasnt apart of the hood its a difference they might of went to school or work and took they square ass right back in the house but wit me and most i know  could never avoid this s**tif we wanted to cuz its knee deep and grew up in it but yes we all want the house in the hills but even when you get that my advice is stay active in these streets we come from and try an make a differrance


but like i said at the beginnin i not doing certain s**ton these streets no mo but it is some s**ti might still do which those on the outside lookin in might consider it wrong but in a clever way its life but some chances we take to prosper but i will say i aint bangin no mo cuz now a days im getting money wit those i disrespected at one time and even got real love for and will ride out for such as gd's ,bd's ect.. becuz imma man before im anything but my nation will remain in me and on me for life (bpsn)



and for the record you are right its alot of negative s**tgoing on in these streets but its all bout how you move out here and i see and interact wit more good/down to earth people i can relate to out here then i can see in this entertainment industry like i said its a lot of devilish s**tgoing on in that industry not say jay z cuz i dont know that man but i do know and see how that devilish industry is ran as a whole

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October 31, 2009 4:06 PM
 

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October 31, 2009 4:18 PM
 

ItsTheCity said:

Beans is trying to get himself back to being relevant, just like the rest of the n***as that diss Jay.  It's about being in the light.  If it's not about money, n you still got love for Jay, then what was the purpose?  "he owes me a conversation"..that's one of the MOST ridiculous statements ever..if the guy don't wanna speak, then he don't wanna speak..period..move on, n keep trying to succeed..Jay goes on Oprah, opens Glastonbury, not bail n***as outta jail or even visit jail TIME & TIME AGAIN..that's what did Beans in, not being able to stay out of f**kin trouble...ya'll "street n***as" call it being real..but when you running around with a million dollar enterprise, what the f**k does being a "street n***a" mean?  GROW THE f**k UP...

Jay looks out for Jay, period..we've been known this, so what's the news?  cause of who said it?
October 31, 2009 4:37 PM
 

cablos said:

I wasnt gonna say anything until Jay-z made some type of comment or response to this cause  to say Im disapointed as a Fan of Beanie Sigel is an Understatment  to see a Nicca I respected as one of the dopest Lyricist in the game become a f**kin Cliche damn right breaks my heart...what Sigel  sayin doesnt make any form of  sense  In the interview with Challamagne  his voice sounds shaky not because he sounding honest he sound more  a bunch of n***as are talkin into his Ear! Gassing him up ..personally he sounding like  a classic case of an Üngrateful Nicca".its like you can please black ppl ..what ever you us we  find a way to s**tthose that gave  help (Sidebar  :Im speaking from experience) ..according to Beans  interview Dame Dash did more damage than Jay did wat u mad about dat Jay didnt hold ur hand enuff ..I scream false ...as a Roca-fella fan back in the day  ...Jay rather Co-signed a Philly Nicca than New-York artist to The Hold The Roc Banner  why cause he felt Beans had soooooooooooooooooooooo much promise if only he LEFT THE STREETS ALONE ...!! Beans went from being a promising .G.O.A.T  to become a LEGAL and FINANCIAL LIABILITY! always in and out of prison and gettin caught up on that street s**tand hes  suppose to be a CEO of State Prop makin Boss moves ..instead ure runnin Ya block with homies who dont give a s**tabout you...Even if Right Now Jay said Im gonna take you on a world wide tour RIGHT NOW!! Beans Cant go cause he's  curretly on House Arrest for some Dumbshit ..Whos to Blame Jay  ?  Dame Dash..? .Nicca's jsut dont know how to  take Fully Responsibility for they actions ...There are two primary holes in Sigel side of the story ( 1) when Rocafella Broke Up Beans signed with Dame Dash instead of Jay-z ...yall Forgot THE BCOMING album was realeased under DDMG***DAME DASH MUSIC GROUP* after Beans got out of Jail  Jay-z  still signed him back to Rocafella why would Jay do that if he didnt care about his Career .? after Sig  chose side with his enemy he still took him back (2)  Sigel is the ONLY!! Nicca from Rocafella  he put on THE AMERICAN GANSTER ALBUM no Young Gunz who still ride hard for Jay No Bleek whos pretty much  Jay right hand .. No Freeway who's still cool with Jay No Kanye West  who's the BREADWINNER of the Roc ..Instead he Chose BEANS!! why would Jay do that..? Bleek Tours with Jay were ever he goes and Bleek hasnt been on Jays last 5 albums ..u dont here em crying ? ..Jay wasnt f**kin with Beans based on the SO CALLED STREET MENTALITY you cant deal with Corporate America coming on that thug shit  its just  not happening ..it is what it is and Jay knows that ...Im sure Jay may have done some questionable things  but Beans forced his Hand ..Jay aint perfect...I Respect Beans spit game I got The Reason album  and BP3 on whip Rotation  but I cant Co-sign his story ..You bit the hand that Fed you  
October 31, 2009 4:44 PM
 

more_than_thug said:

Jay kinda got a point.. ain't s**the can do if n***as don't go platinum
October 31, 2009 4:52 PM
 

Train_Of_Thought said:

@ JUDAH NAZURA

These jay z supporters must of forget what the term selling out means. This nicca Jay is the modern day front runner for the term. I can't believe its people that think this clown made it from the hood to where he at with hard work alone. This nicca got all kind of influences and secret societies in his pocket. No doubt.

Jay even said himself for you ignorant fucc's in run this town in the second verse Jay said:

"And ain't nobody fresher
I'm in MASON,  Martin Margiela.


How the fucc can you still deny it after hearing his own damn words.


Wake the fucc up people stop following dumb s**tblindly and read the subliminal messages these niccas be throwing at yo ass. That whole dam song was full of subliminal threats, and blatant bulls**t that only people with wool over they eyes will not understand.


I give you facts out that camels mouth. Nothing else to be said.


Hey Judah Nazurah Jay Z validated your comments all by himself. But your points are well said anyway.
October 31, 2009 4:54 PM
 

saracen4 said:

First time i've ever posted on this blog, but alot of this "ish" got me itching to say something . How could Jay-z have Beans thrown out of his launch party??BEANS??!! The same Beans who went to war for you, took the hits for you, fought the wars for you?? Beans, homie..really??...Alot of the dichotomies(yes ppl, my punk ass went to school) here has me spazzing. ppl want street cred,street affirmation yet call Beans out for wanting handouts. I don't roll with street codes no more cos I 'm in a different place right now but I know the rules.
Go to bat for your crew=street loyalty
Letting your crew go to bat for you when your intentions are "jinn"=Bitchassness
Being the biggest thing in hip hop=Good look
Being the biggest thing in hiphop, climbing over the corpses of your crew,who's shoulders you stood on,who took shots for you='jinn"bitchassness

Some have compared Jay to Diddy but I think jay-z was much worse. These homies all stood for you. acknowledged you as the leader of a movement, that was gonna be a good look for hiphop. you had the "smooth it out" brothas (Jay, Kanye), you had the grimey soldiers with cred(Beans, Freeway) and a band of soldiers, who did their part. Where they at now?? Jay-z worth couple hundred million, where his crew at?? Fif might get more than a few barbs thrown at him but even punkass Game would laugh if
October 31, 2009 5:03 PM
 

gouch3 said:

And there you have it folks.......beans had all the opportunity in the world to succeed and he blew it. Jay don't have to respond lyrically, BP3 says it all. it's like he knew this was coming. But I would really like to hear him respond so all these clowns on here can stop talking about how much superior Beans is than Jay lyrically......not saying Beans is weak, but he ain't "above" Jay by no stretch.
October 31, 2009 5:05 PM
 

Train_Of_Thought said:

I'm a Maison ........Martin Margiela.

Maison Martin Morgiela is a fashion designer.


He telling you he a Mason but subliminally by tying it in with this guys name. Like a magician who reveals his tricks but only if you read and study you will know this kind of shit.


WTFU. Wake the Fucc Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This nicca is fooling you cats that ride or die with this industry bulls**t that goes on. Dude is a snake. And anybody not with his new team is his. This nicca WAS CHOSEN he wasn't THE CHOSEN.
October 31, 2009 5:06 PM
 

bufezy said:

i come to this site to realize how behind we are. Want if there was no Jay what beans would have done then. The hood is full of lazy ass people.  Rappers would die to get the exposure beans got with jay. This n***a said jay didn't push him like 50 did his team, n***a if you wanna sign with 50 just say it.  #1 Point is sigel had state property, what happened? What happened to all the rappers he was responsible for on state property.  Where they at? Take control of your life and all you n***a that agree with sigal on this are not business minded. I like sigel i just don't agree on this one, Sigel had more exsposure then kanye, kanye just wasn't lazy and made relationships with powerful people. Beans blame your manager for sleeping on the job. Pow!
October 31, 2009 5:11 PM
 

gouch3 said:

All you cats knockin jay, just put yourself in his shoes. How long are you required to hold another mans hand? U bring dude into yo house, break bread, set him up to win....What more do u have to do? I came up with homies like Beans acting like the world owe them something and never accepting responsibility. It's time for Beans to man up and get his grind on. Stop crying B, move on.
October 31, 2009 5:14 PM
 

saracen4 said:

punkass Game would laugh if Fif said "least he got 2 Bentleys". F..king Yayo got 2 bentleys and more! Jay's move are opaque only to those with they hands over their eyes. pure bitchassness.

Money aint everything, ppl.He will never be able to spend all he got but where is his history? where all those cats that were there from the start??All burned bridges. I listened to the "diss' track and on it I heard truth, loyalty,pain , betrayal but still love. My respect for Sieg went up 100%, and tangentially as well, so did my respect for 50 cent! G-unit might not be the movement it was at it's height but NEVER have we heard of FiF abandoning his crew. All moves are made so WE can eat, not just he and its not as if he hasn't done enough for his crew all ready. F..king Buck was giving away Bentleys. look it up.That illustrates how much paper went thru homie's hands.
I ride with Sieg on this one cos without even being in the room when alot of these decisions were made, I KNOW what he talking is the truth, and Jay's response in the press conference after sealed it for me.All he could see  and addressed were dollar signs. And thats whats governed his every move. Pity no one told his crew
October 31, 2009 5:18 PM
 

Phanatron said:

Just a real quick factual update,

When Beans was on Trial, Jay and B was in court almost every day for support.  Jay has been consistent in saying that he doesn't do jail visits or writing letters (Emory).

October 31, 2009 5:23 PM
 

CKing520 said:

IM JUST GOIN TO THROW THIS IN THE POT,I FUCKS WITH JIGGA AND I FUCKS WIT BEANS THEY ARE BOTH TALENTED AND BUT JIGGA IS THE SMART ONE,OKAY YA'LL GOTTA LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS THE REASON WHY JIGGA DID WUT HE DID CAUSE IF YA'LL CAN GO BACK YA'LL CAN SEE WHY EVERYTHING FELL APART FOR ONE EVERYONE WAS BLINDED BY THE MONEY,CARS,AND JEWELREY,JIGGA IS TRYIN TO BE THE SMART ONE HERE BECAUSE HE TOOK CARE OF THEM n***as BUT LOOK WHERE IT LANDED THEM IN JAIL OR THEY JUST FELL OFF BECAUSE THEY WAS NOT ACTING RIGHT,s**tJIGGA LOVED BEANS U SEE EVERY JIGGA ALBUM BEANS ALMOST WAS ON EVERY SONG JIGGA TOOK CARE OF HIM AND HIS STATE PROPERTY CLICK,BUT ONCE JIGGA WAS SEENIN THEY WASNT ACTING RIGHT AND WOULDNT LEAVE THAT STREET LIFE ALONE JIGGA SAID ENOUGH IS ENOUGH HE WASNT GOIN TO KEEP BAILIN THEM OUT OF SITUATIONS THEY ARE GROWN MEN THEY GOTTA TAKE MATTERS IN THEY OWN HANDS,JIGGA IS ON THE RIGHT PATH AND HE WANTS TO KEEP PUSHIN TO THE TOP HE DONT WANNT GET BROUGHT DOWN BY SOMEBODY WHO JUST WONT ACT RIGHT,JIGGA SPENT ALOT OF MONEY ON THEM n***as BECAUSE THEM n***as BE ACTIN STUPID DIDNT KNOW HOW TO MANAGE THIER MONEY,JIGGA SPENT MONEY ON THIER PROMOTIONS,TOURS,STUDIO TIME,AND MOVIES BUT THEM n***as DIDNT HAVE s**tBECAUSE THEY WAS NOT ACTING RIGHT WITH THEY MONEY,YA'LL JUST GOTTA LOOK AT IT THAT JIGGA TRIED TO HELP BEANS WHEN HE GOT OUT PUT HIM ON THAT AMERICAN GANGSTER ALBUM AND RELEASED HIS ALBUM AND BEANS CAME OUT WITH ONLY ONE SONG ALL THE ABOVE FT. R.KELLY AND THAT DIDNT GO TO WELL,BUT BEANS WOULDNT LEAVE THAT STREET LIFE ALONE KEEP GETTIN HIS SELF INTO s**tSO JIGGA DIDNT WANNA WASTE HIS TIME JIGGA GOT ALOT OF THINGS GOIN ON,SO ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT JIGGA TRIED TO GIVE BEANS A CHANCE BUT BEANS DID NOT WANT TO ACT RIGHT SO JIGGA HAD TO LET HIM GO

TO THE OTHER RAPPERS TRYIN TO BEEF WIT JAY,THEY ALL TRYIN TO DO LIKE WUT FIF DID WHEN FIF WENT AT JAY THEN JAY CAME BACK WITH THAT "IM ABOUT DOLLAS WHO THE f**k IS 50 CENT" THATS WHEN 50 GOT NOTICE BECAUSE OF THAT ONE LINE RIGHT THERE NOW EVERYONE TRYIN TO DISS JAY BECAUSE THEY KNO JAY IS BIG AND IF SOMEONE WHOS BIG GOES AT SOMETHING SMALL THATS WHEN ALL THE PUBLICITY AND THE MONEY COME ROLLING IN,s**tEVEN CAM SAID IT HIS SELF IN THE SOURCE,WHEN CAM WAS GOIN IN ON JAY THEN WHEN JAY CAME BACK AT HIM ON THAT HUSTLIN REMIX,IT TOOK CAME TO DO ATLEAST 5 DISS TRACKS AND IT ONLY TOOK JAY TO DO ONE,CAM SAID JIGGA IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE BUT HE HAD TO TAKE SOME SHOTS AT THE KING OF THE GAME BECAUSE THATS WHERE THE MONEY IS AT,THEN THE GAME ITS EVERY OTHER MONTH HE'S BEEFING WIT JAY BUT THEN LATER ON HE AINT BEEFING WIT HIM,NOW FIF SHOULDNT BE SAYIN s**tBECAUSE IF IT WASNT FOR JAY EVERYONE STILL BE SAYIN WHO THE f**k IS 50 CENT,JIM JONES....ITS OVA JAY GOT AT U ON THAT BROOKLYN FREESTYLE HAVE NOT HAVE A HIT RECORD SINCE,AND BABY TRYIN TO SAY WEEZY IS BETTER AND NO ONE AINT FEELIN JAY,DONT GET ME WRONG WAYNE IS A MONSTER ON THE TRACKS BUT GOTTA THINK ABOUT IT WAYNE IDOLIZES JAY,JAY GOT ON THAT ROCK s**tTHEN WAYNE GOT ON THAT ROCK SHIT,AND T-PAIN,I KNO MOST OF YALL SAW THAT VIDEO HE SAID HE WAS DONE WITH AUTOTUNE AND HE BURIED THAT TOP HAT AND THAT BIG ASS CHAIN PENDENT

ALL I CAN SAY TO EVERYONE IS THAT JIGGA IS PLAYIN IT SMART CAUSE HE KNOWS WHEN SOME ONE TRIES TO DISS HIM THEY JUST TRYIN TO GET SOME ATTENTION BUT ONCE JAY DONT GO BACK AT THEM THEY ARE BUNCH OF NOBODYS
October 31, 2009 5:30 PM
 

Texas_Boi_Trill said:

DAPHATMAN803 said:
jay-z didn't answer the question of why he did let beans out of his deal let him answer that shit.  jay-z does this interviews but never answers question straight always a lil joke then some kind of sarah palin type of answer with alot of i'm just sayin and that nervous laughing s**the got

I co-sign 100% mayne ...........i dont know what else3 needs to be said after that statement mayne

***SONGS FOR HALLOWEEN***

Ganksta N.I.P.- "Horror Movie Rap"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJe0A3zcZFQ

Dr.Dre & Ice Cube- "Natural Born Killaz"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9tq87vOHJQ


October 31, 2009 5:33 PM
 

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October 31, 2009 5:37 PM
 

LawlessOne said:

f**k Camel Face.
October 31, 2009 5:42 PM
 

shorunner1 said:

Big fans of both and I see both sides, but to an extent, but I still tend to side with Sigel on this.  On one hand, Beans is one of the most frustrating people to get behind as a fan, because he always seems to f**k up whenever he's about to do something big.  On the other hand, you look at a situation like in 07 when Jay, Free and Beans all dropped albums under the Rocafella imprint within about a month and a half of each other, and although Beans and Jay were featured on each other's albums, there was almost no kinda cross promotion to help Free's and Beanie's albums sell, and it showed in the result.  And something like that wouldn't have even been that hard to do and could've actually been a good business strategy, because for real, how well would a "Return of the Roc" push have worked at that point?  People are trying to spin this situation as guys asking for handouts, but when these guys are signed to your label--especially if Jay really fought to keep Beanie from leaving--it's your job to make sure your people are taken care of.  And that's without getting into all the other allegations of Jay calling the cops and what not.  Long story short, no Jay shouldn't have to hold anybody's hand, but I don't think it's that simple with Beans; he definitely could've done more.
October 31, 2009 5:56 PM
 

Beezwax said:

Yall can sit and specualate all you want but truth is no one knows the whole situation. And anybody who makes any judgement before knowing a situation in its entire is damn fool!! All yall know is what one man is claiming and now yall runnin wit it like its gospel. Is that all it really takes these days?? Now, i like the song...but...

I dont like the ending where i hear a man blaming another man for his misfortunes. At some point and time you gotta be accountable for your own shit. First of all the only reason people know ur name is because of Dame and Jay...and for that, and only that, u should be crediting Jay and Dame for... they put u on...period.  Now as for the rest....BROTHA U NEEDED TO MAKE THAT s**tHAPPEN FOR YOURSELF. U had albums, hit records, a label, movies..etc. How much did u really expect a n***a to do for u? What people fail to realize is that as much as hiphop is an entertainment, it is also a business! What u think your boss is gonna do if u miss a few weeks of work because u out f**kin off and now u caught some jail time. He gonna fire you!! And rightfully so. Your no longer producing for the company now and YOUR shortcomings are now becoming OUR shortcomings.  Dont get caught up in the bulls**t. Stop thinkin you got a friend. Jay aint ur friend, u didnt grow up wit Jay. Jay and Dame gave u an opportunity to blow...Its ur responsibility to now turn that opportunity into financial freedom!!  Real talk, n***as have made better careers with less!!!  Only friends u got are the ones u grew up wit...period. Thus Jay and Bleek, Fif and Yayo, and so on. There comes a time where u need to stop lookin for handouts. Like i said, You were given a home, a label, you made hit records, traveled, made movies...give 90 percent of brothas in the hood that opportunity and they would run wit it. Take it for what its worth and build on it. Stop blaming n***as and dry snitchin about how u feel they did u dirty....son you were given so much from the very start!!! Ur mistake was in thinkin it couldnt all be taken away as quick as it came. Beans crying about Jay didnt visit him in jail... n***a RECOGNIZE UR ROLL...stop thinkin you had a friend, you were signed, n***a you were an employee who made some dum ass decisions and caught jail time, and essentially became a financial liability to the wealth of the company. Simply put!! Shoulda did something with it when u had the chance.  I like both jay and beans and i hope they can sort this out, i really do. And now people talkin that Jay needs to respond...whats he to say? He gave a man an opportunity, is he supposed to hold his hand all the way? This wasnt no we been friends since the 3rd grade bulls**t. Fif said that he will forever be grateful to em and dre because they gave him an opportunity to blow...aside from that, HE did the rest!! Some people got it and some dont, thats just how it is. Look at Kanye. Dame and Jay didnt make Kanye. But they DID give him the opportunity to showcase himself and blow. Beanie, u were given the same tools, stop cryin. All u needed was the opportunity to showcase yourself and thats what u got and thats all u need now! U already got your name, your cred, your buzz, now just go out there and do you. U dont need Jay or anybody else holding ur hand through shit. Ur talented as hell and u spit better than most rappers out here still. This should be a learning lesson for Beans. The game is a "what have u done for me lately" type of game and the fans are the same way...if you aint producing, you're yesterdays news!!

this is why i really respect people like master p, the roots, slim thug, mike jones...they created they own buzz and kept they own name hot for as long as they could... BY THEMSELVES. Sold the s**tout they trunks on the streets just to keep the buzz goin. Even Soulja boy...created a buzz for himself on the net with silly dances and shit...whatever it takes!! Beanie, what have you done to create a demand for yourself?? Aint nothin given. Nowadays rappers lookin for someone else to do everything for them. And when they s**t falls they point the finger elsewhere.
October 31, 2009 6:03 PM
 

Beezwax said:

Yall can sit and specualate all you want but truth is no one knows the whole situation. And anybody who makes any judgement before knowing a situation in its entire is damn fool!! All yall know is what one man is claiming and now yall runnin wit it like its gospel. Is that all it really takes these days?? Now, i like the song...but...

I dont like the ending where i hear a man blaming another man for his misfortunes. At some point and time you gotta be accountable for your own shit. First of all the only reason people know ur name is because of Dame and Jay...and for that, and only that, u should be crediting Jay and Dame for... they put u on...period.  Now as for the rest....BROTHA U NEEDED TO MAKE THAT s**tHAPPEN FOR YOURSELF. U had albums, hit records, a label, movies..etc. How much did u really expect a n***a to do for u? What people fail to realize is that as much as hiphop is an entertainment, it is also a business! What u think your boss is gonna do if u miss a few weeks of work because u out f**kin off and now u caught some jail time. He gonna fire you!! And rightfully so. Your no longer producing for the company now and YOUR shortcomings are now becoming OUR shortcomings.  Dont get caught up in the bulls**t. Stop thinkin you got a friend. Jay aint ur friend, u didnt grow up wit Jay. Jay and Dame gave u an opportunity to blow...Its ur responsibility to now turn that opportunity into financial freedom!!  Real talk, n***as have made better careers with less!!!  Only friends u got are the ones u grew up wit...period. Thus Jay and Bleek, Fif and Yayo, and so on. There comes a time where u need to stop lookin for handouts. Like i said, You were given a home, a label, you made hit records, traveled, made movies...give 90 percent of brothas in the hood that opportunity and they would run wit it. Take it for what its worth and build on it. Stop blaming n***as and dry snitchin about how u feel they did u dirty....son you were given so much from the very start!!! Ur mistake was in thinkin it couldnt all be taken away as quick as it came. Beans crying about Jay didnt visit him in jail... n***a RECOGNIZE UR ROLL...stop thinkin you had a friend, you were signed, n***a you were an employee who made some dum ass decisions and caught jail time, and essentially became a financial liability to the wealth of the company. Simply put!! Shoulda did something with it when u had the chance.  I like both jay and beans and i hope they can sort this out, i really do. And now people talkin that Jay needs to respond...whats he to say? He gave a man an opportunity, is he supposed to hold his hand all the way? This wasnt no we been friends since the 3rd grade bulls**t. Fif said that he will forever be grateful to em and dre because they gave him an opportunity to blow...aside from that, HE did the rest!! Some people got it and some dont, thats just how it is. Look at Kanye. Dame and Jay didnt make Kanye. But they DID give him the opportunity to showcase himself and blow. Beanie, u were given the same tools, stop cryin. All u needed was the opportunity to showcase yourself and thats what u got and thats all u need now! U already got your name, your cred, your buzz, now just go out there and do you. U dont need Jay or anybody else holding ur hand through shit. Ur talented as hell and u spit better than most rappers out here still. This should be a learning lesson for Beans. The game is a "what have u done for me lately" type of game and the fans are the same way...if you aint producing, you're yesterdays news!!

this is why i really respect people like master p, the roots, slim thug, mike jones...they created they own buzz and kept they own name hot for as long as they could... BY THEMSELVES. Sold the s**tout they trunks on the streets just to keep the buzz goin. Even Soulja boy...created a buzz for himself on the net with silly dances and shit...whatever it takes!! Beanie, what have you done to create a demand for yourself?? Aint nothin given. Nowadays rappers lookin for someone else to do everything for them. And when they s**t falls they point the finger elsewhere.
October 31, 2009 6:03 PM
 

TonyMalibu said:

Beanz is trippin...and the sad thing is that every dead end n***a who ain't about s**tis gonna ride with him!  Niggaz be feeling like if you blow up, you supposed to look out for them indefinitely.  You may look out for that person, but that don't mean you're gonna do it forever.  For that person, it doesn't mean that he can ease up on his own grind, and it damn sure doesn't mean that you're entitled to the same lifestyle as the dude who's looking out.  I mean damn!  n***as want you to not only feed them...they want you to cook the food.  They want you to hold their d**k while they piss and wipe their ass when they shit.  

As for him not getting the same shine as Jay, well let's put it this way.  The thing with the lime light is...either you got it or you don't.  It takes a special person to shine.  I honestly can't see Beanz doing the same s**tthat Jay does...one minute with Bill Gates, next minute with Oprah, etc.   I'm not saying he CAN'T DO IT, I'm just saying I can't see it as this point.   Beanz doesn't even know how to resolve a problem without puttin it on wax!  He just fucked what little he had completely up!
October 31, 2009 6:16 PM
 

HipHopHead4lyfe said:

@ liquidswords95 said:




this excerpt from  the other board RIP Mike Beck

A number of artists expressed their condolences via Twitter.



"R.I.P. Mike Beck!!!!!" Fat Joe Tweeted, as did Cool & Dre, DJ Khaled, Noreaga, Raekwon and others.


seems like everybody tweets to me I dont use it s**tseem to much like gossiping and only females do that guess I'm too old school.
October 31, 2009 7:23 PM
 

EST said:

"...frontlined for that thing of ours, for that diamond that people was throwin’ up. I’da took a bullet at that time."

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Then you sir are an idiot, this is the music business not some psuedo-gangster warfare. This isht is completely asinine, attempting to blame someone else for you perceived lack of success. Man up and be the captain of your own destiny but when your ship starts to sink don't get mad because no one throws you a life preserver.
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liquidswords95 said:

 
@HipHopHead4lyfe

Just because other folks tweet, don't mean i have to do it. I'm not a follower. like i said to each it's own. Just something about tweeting, that don't sit well with me, you feel me.
October 31, 2009 7:56 PM
 

HipHopHead4lyfe said:

Nah I definitely feel you I was just commenting on what you said about real dudes not using it, Just showing you alot of them MFs tweeting I dont need that much attention...



And why people keep saying Beans looking for  handout THIS AINT ABOUT MONEY Jay jumped ship leaving Def Jam ( nuttin wrong with that ) but Beanine didnt want to be on Def Jam if Jay aint  there and he shouldn't have to be...

He mad cause Jay didnt want to let him go and make some bread on his own Jay wanted to keep eating off Beans without having to help him f**k that n***a if you gon make moves on your own cool, but let me go make moves on my own and GET YOUR DAMN HANDS OUT MY POCKET!
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Why do n***a's give a s**tabout beef?  I could give to rat fucks if an artist is beefing with another artist.

Beef is like a Soap Opera for n***a's.

n***a's act like this beef s**tis gonna affect thier lives and shit!

This n***a Jay'z is 50 yrs old Beanie is 42 yrs old. Old ass n***a's fighting over loyalty or money or whatever f**k they fighting over.

What's done is done in the past ain't s**tu can do about now. That old ass n***a Beans might as well keep it moving!

And yall n***a's need to stop entertaining this beef bulls**t. You know yall n***a's was watching Guiding Light with you Mamma!

Yall b***h ass n***as watching the Young and the Restless with your girl with the blinds open. Ya boys looking at you through the window laughing at you n***a!

Beef= Another way to keep n***a's fighting each other over dumb shit!


White man: 210pts                                              n***a's: - 28pts


We losing the game. White man styling on n***a's.
October 31, 2009 10:18 PM
 

liquidswords95 said:

White man: 210pts                                              n***a's: - 28pts


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October 31, 2009 10:18 PM

___________________________________

I'm glad i ain't a n***a, and i ain't no whiteman, so i'm not losing the game. On the real though, you post made sense, until the end. Talking about n***as, if you referring to black people, then you should of put, Black People, just like you put Whiteman. See that's the real problem, black guys view themselves as n***as, and that's ignorance.
October 31, 2009 10:32 PM
 

Bigfella3000_DMV said:

NIGHTS LIKE THIS...I WISH THAT RAINDROPS WOULD FA-ALLL!!! DAMN JAY TREATING BEANS LIKE OLE EDDIE KANE JR.
Real crazy and anyone that knows me, knows I am a HOV disciple to the core but I am mad Jay you put Beans shhh out there like that  ... The Bentley shhh we all new you said it in the lyrics but don't put that shhhh out about Mom Dukes...that shhhh is personal and you know better.  

Normally Jay don't address this type of shhh this early which makes me think much of what Siegel says has merit or because of who it came from he felt he had to say something.

Its real simple though Jay never had to deal with the acts ... Biggs and Dame did that shhh ... Dame dealt with Beanie crazy @ss and then told hiim go to the studio, go to the radio station, go on your promo tour... I hate to say it but Jay still has an artist mentality where it is all about him ... until he retires which I hope is no time soon he is not ready to be an effective leader and in proverbial Zookeeper ... he gets tired of the animals and then says man I told you don't shhh where you eat already...why do I have to take you for a walk??  Sad and I need y'all to get this together because before you shut it down I need a Roc-4-Life tour
November 1, 2009 12:22 AM
 

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November 1, 2009 1:21 AM
 

DAMIT said:

@liquidswords

U right about i should've put Black people instead of n***a's.

I use that word to dam much. Like Tribe said we use it as a term of endearment. Well s**ti will try and stop doing that shit.

November 1, 2009 1:29 AM
 

El.CaMiNo_82BoY said:

If you're looking for a record label never sign with Roc-A-Fella... Bad Boy... G-U-Not! We all know Puffy been a snake since early 90s... We know 5-0 is a snitch on Murder Inc. and see now Jay-Z "hustlers" persona was only to "CON" NYC/East Coast hip-hop community since late 90s!

True Fact: Rappers will sign with whoever is giving out the most front $ But most will not do research on label CEOs and how they treat other artist! Mogul is the new term for Hip-Hop CEOs who sellout to corporations in order to become accepted in Hollywood

Jay-Z, 5-0 & Puffy get enough $ and hungry artist everyday... So the employees (aka Artists) become irrelevant and they use them til they run out of buzz or the artist won't suck on their balls anymore!

Rappers need understand they don't need a crews or label mates to top of the charts! Jay-Z been fraud just like Puffy and Suge Knight & 5-0. Those type of dudes use artist and take their $ then justify their snake-like actions as "I did all I could to help the artist that they cheated and raped over years.

Jay-Z is a jealous and crooked individual! And Jay-Z is a known MASON and fans continue to follow his every word like a cult. I always felt NAS was right about Jay-Z when he released Ether! I always felt like Cam'ron was right about Jay-Z jealous ways when Dipset Movement came over to Roca-A-Fella. All these Hip-Hop cats can't all be lying about how Roc-A-Fella CEO.
November 1, 2009 1:28 AM
 

Beezwax said:

its funny to hear ppl say Jay and Puff use artists up and milk them for what they can get....U CANT BE SERIOUS. Jay and Puff have enuff money that the average artists' pennies dont make or break they bank. The problem is, is when u take an artist off the streets and give him a deal, once that artist starts making some real money, that paticular artist must stop thinkin in "Street Terms" and now must transition his mindset into the "business mindset" in order to FURTHER his financial progressions. Jay figured this out...50 has even figured this out!! Y do people seem to take Jay serious? Because he can rap about his PAST life in the projects and keep it from the perspective that IT IS his "former life" and that now his life is much more distinguished. "I dont be in the project hallways talkin bout how i be in the projects all day." This is very hard for some artists and is usually why some cant progress to what they could be. They cant seperate themselves from what they once were. Lets keep it real, if u got a couple mil in the bank u aint livin in nobodys projects. Jay can appeal more so now to the business men rather than the common hip hop listener, which is why he is able to make the moves that he does. For as much as people dont think Jay keeps it real, he really does. His music and the things hes talkin about now displays his progression from cornerside street hustler/rapper to businessman/owner. Although Beans had practically everything anyone hoping for any sort of deal could have, he was not able to part with the street hustler side of himself to further his career. U cant be making millions of dollars and doin drugs, u cant be shooting people and think your label owners and the people who invested in you are gonna stick around and wait for you to rehabilitate. If Jay said to any of yall "you want to go on tour wit me and even spit some flows on the same stage" aint not none of you would say NO!! Thats too much opportunity right there. Now add in the fact that Beans was given a label, a record deal, he did movies, had a clothing line, traveled and shared the same stage as Jay many of times....wouldnt you call that the opportunity of a lifetime? Wouldnt you take full advantage of that just to catapult yourself into stardum? Thats what Kanye West did! I said it before: Jay nor Dame made Beans, nor Kanye. Both Beans and Kanye were given the same tools: AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWCASE THEMSELVES and it just so happened to be by the biggest name in hiphop. The difference: Beans could not seperate himself from the bulls**t to progress his own career. Kanye did. In life u dont get many opportunities but the ones u get you need to make the most of an run wit it. Em did it when he met Dre. Fif did it when he met Em and Dre. Kanye did it when he met Dame and Jay. Nowadays s**taint about what u know, its about who u know and who u can impress! So if you're a Young Beanie Seigel from Philly and you're fortunate enough to stand in front of Jay at a bar and he has the time to listen to you spit a rhyme from the top of your head, U BETTER TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND LEAVE AND UNDENIABLE IMPRINT on that brothas memory which will in return make him say, "we gotta sign this dude"...(which really happened). But from there u gotta keep strivin and dont get caught up in the bulls**t cause if you do...u got no one to blame but yourself when it all falls down. No one HAD to sign you, and if you really think about it, you're still in a better place now than where u were BEFORE u got a deal. U still got money. Ur moms is still livin nice. And if u stop and think about it, thats all u really wanted when u were broke!!!  Beanie, Think about that and be grateful. Many people would die to have the opportunity that u had, and still have. Your not washed up, and u can still spit fire! Just go out and do you, but be serious about it.
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@DAMIT

I know how you meant it. it's just you got other races of folks on this site, and they be reading the comments, and think we consider ourselves niggahs, then they think they could call us that, and that wouldn't be a good idea for them.
November 1, 2009 8:47 AM
 

georgiaboiz said:

even if jay had promoted him he still would not blow.only nigahs in philly and ny buy his shit.i never heard a nigah in the south, where i stay bumpin his shit, not even mention this nigah name .but mf kno of him couse he was on some jay tracks. u in a position to make it big and you gettin locked up .ole dumb ass nigah
November 1, 2009 10:50 AM
 

KtruHeaterz said:

....as usual everyone looking from the outside in he been stated this ain't about $$$$ but yet same ole fools on here making it out to be. Go start a magazine like Star or some s**tyou gossip'n azz no fact azz nimps. AHH be late as hell with this stuff. Guess they didn't wanna ride WSHH nuts by adding the video to this like they have. Even that wack azz nimp coonery azz site gets stuff b4 AHH lol. Beans talkin bout how he was did i see nothing in ANY ARTICLE about $$$$. nly person he said stole $$ from him was Dame PERIOD!! He said Jay getting big headed and he needs to come down to reality and how he suppose to be his man and he ain't come visit him one time while 50Cent uncle in same prison at time doin 17yrs and 50 there every week to see him and Jay can't come visit him 1 time but 50 was busy doin this n that but still made time to get up there to see his uncle while Jay ain't make time for nada. Read damn story and stop comin up with ya own versions of the story and what its about. Get cha mind right.

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November 1, 2009 10:58 AM
 

liquidswords95 said:


@georgiaboiz


I'm from the South, and live in the South., Beans get some play in parts of the South. Anyway, what's the relevance to  this topic anyway.
November 1, 2009 10:59 AM
 

dynastydiva said:

ITS CRAZY TO ME HOW MOFOS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON OF BEEF....SIMPLE AZZES:/

SO LET ME EXPLAIN THIS IN A WAY THAT LAMES MAY OR MAY NOT UNDERSTAND....

LETS SAY U HAVE WORKED 4 10 YEARS AT WORK FOR A POSITION.... U HAVE FRIENDS WHO DONT HAVE JOBS,PLANS OR AMBITION ....U GET THEM A JOB WHERE U WORK AND THEY START FUGGIN UP...NOW NOT ONLY IS THAT POSITION U WANT THREATEND BUT U ABOUT TO LOSE UR JOB. WOULD U SAY FUGG THAT JOB ...."U MY HOMIE" AND QUIT OR GET FIRED? NOW THINK ABOUT YOUR KIDS AND THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED U TO WORK, THINK ABOUT ALL THE WORK U PUT IN AND WHAT THEY DIDN'T AND U GONNA RISK UR LIFETIME FOR THIS CAT?PLEASE.....IM NO FOLLOWER OR FAILURE SO IF U AINT WITH IT U HAVE TO GO.

LONG STORY SHORT...I HAVE HAD THEM BUM AZZ FRIENDS THAT I KEPT HELPING  THEY HURT ME, PLAYED ME AND KEPT DOING STUPID SHYT SO I CUT THEM OFF. I AM THE LADY JAY....EVERYTHING HE SPIT I FEEL IN MY HEART AND NOTHING SUMS THIS UP MORE THAN.....

PROBLEMS I CALLED ON HIM/ HE CALLED ON ME / WE WASNT QUITE PARTNERS/ I HIT HIM OFF WITH MY CREAM/ LET HIM UNLOCK DOORS OFF MY KEYS/ YEAH WE SPOKE MUCH MORE THAN CORDIALLY/ MAN HE BROKE BREAD WITH ME;/MY VISION SPEARD QUICKLY/ THE FEDS CAME TO GET ME WE BOTH FLED QUICKLY/WASN'T QUICK ENOUGH TO JUMP OVA THE HEDGES WITH ME/GOT CAUGHT AND THATS WHEN OUR RELATIONSHIP/ STRAYED USED TO CALL ME FROM THE JOINT TILL HE RAN OUTTA CHANGE/AND WHEN HE CALLED COLECT AND I HEARD HIS NAME/ I QUICKLY ACCEPTED/ BUT WHEN I REACHED THE PHONE/ HE TALKING RECKLESS/SENSE DECIT IN HIS TONE/I SAID DAMN DOG WHAT NOW IM REACHING UR HOME/ HESAID YEAH DOG U THNK SHYT SWEET CUZ U HOME/ I JUST SAT SPAT NO MORE SPEECH ON THE PHONE/THEM CRACKERS UP THE BLEACHING UR DOME UR BEEFIN//THE WORLD DONT STOP///I GOT TO KEEP KEEP ON.... FROM THEN I SEE THE BEEF WAS/ RAN TO THE SPOT TO ADD NEW FEATURES TO MY PHONE...TO SEE IF I HAD BUGS AND LEACHES ON MY PHONE...

CANT BE 2 SAFE CUZ NAGGAZ IS 2FACED/////AND THE SHOW THE OTHER SIDE WHEN THEY CATCH A NEW CASE
November 1, 2009 11:49 AM
 

dynastydiva said:

JELEOSLY IS WEAK EMOTION
November 1, 2009 11:58 AM
 

odoggz said:

Yall made excellent points here!  Jay-Z shits on people who helped him get to where he is,  from beginning to end, that's been his pattern. It's sad to see it laid out like this. You can say it's jealousy, I'm sure that's part of it, but there is a level of loyalty to your crew.  When did your crew try to play you, JayZ? WTF? Jay-Z's skills are what the Roc marketed to get on, but of course it was the business saavy of Dame Dash that kept them from getting cheated by the industry, all those years and made them a force! Then Jay-Z just dumps on dude like that? Jayz acts like a Diva, for real, a woman you give too much money and attention to.  I used to respect dude, and although I'm not in the streets like that, I came from that, and I still don't let my people down.  I noticed he didn't say any of those dudes were riding his coat-tail so he cut them off, that would be grounds for his case but he didn't say that. Dude just did them like those corporate white dudes do people. I bet you the big wigs of music told him to disassociate himselve with those people, as payback to them from the stuff Dame used to do to Def Jam execs.  If that's the case, that officially makes Jayz a House n***a!
November 1, 2009 3:08 PM
 

SparkyF said:

@ JUDAH NAZURA

WOW!!! Never saw u post here before but after reading ur post I stopped reading right there!

That is some real live ish u said right there playboy... I definitely agree w/ a few of the points u made and for the record I always thought the clown was a fraud from day one I swear

Not only is he a fraud he's the epitomy of a sucker that lacks zero integrity.... u guys who look up to camel man are questionable and need to do the knowledge to what the homie Judah broke down in his post
November 1, 2009 4:36 PM
 

dynastydiva said:

OMG!!!!!!!! I SEE WHAT IT IS ON HERE....A BUNCH OF BROKE AZZ HATERS, WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A POSITION OF POWER...SAD!

WELL LET ME SPEAK FOR THE BOSSES...ITS REALLY "GET DOWN OR LAY DOWN" IN THIS GAME. I AINT SUPPORTING NO NAGGA TILL HE BLEED ME DRY FUX DAT..... I WILL LEAVE U FACE DOWN IN THE DIRT BEFORE U PUT ME THERE.

THESE CRYIN AZZ HOE NAGGAS "OH JAY DO EVERYBODY LIKE DAT" WELL IF U FUGGIN KNOW THAT WHY NOT MOVE THE FUX ON. IF I KNOW A CAT GOT SHADY WAYS IMMA PLAY THE GAME JUST AS HE IS BUT ONE STEP AHEAD. IF NOT THEN U ARE

"THE EPITOMY OF A SUCKER"

A PUZZY WAITING TO BE FUXED

PLENTY OF MOFO HAD THEY WHOLE LIVES RIDING ON ME...... I AINT THEY MOMS SO WHY SHOULD I?

ALL U CATS TALKING BOUT LOYALTY BUT THINK OF THIS .....
IF IT EVER CAME DOWN TO U AND UR BFF FIGHTING FOR UR LIVES, WOULD U LET HIM KILL U?
November 1, 2009 5:05 PM
 

dynastydiva said:

OH AND ABOUT THE FREEMASONS.....ILLUMINATI....SKULL AND BONES....THESE SOCIETIES HAVE BRED THE MOST BRILLIANT AND INFLUENTUAL PEOPLE KNOWN TO MAN... SO PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY IT IS A BAD THING THAT HE WAS CHOSEN BY THEM?

OH I KNOW....... WHY YA'LL STILL BELIVE THE DEVILWORSHIP AND VOODO BULLSHYT THAT ALL UR MAINSTREAM EDUCATION AND CHURCH TOLD U...WELL HERES A LIL PIECE OF INFO THAT WILL BOGGEL UR MIND....

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SLAUGHTERED AND IMPRISONED THOUSANDS TO WRITE THE MASONS OUT OF HISTORY THEN REWROTE PARTS OF THE BIBLE THEN TOLD U TO OBEY OR BURN IN HELL...HMMMM THAT SOUNDS SUSPECT TO ME.

BUT U DUMMIES FOLLOWED RIGHT OFF THE CLIFF...ROTFLMAO
November 1, 2009 5:20 PM
 

smackabitch said:

dynastydivawannabe said:
OMG!!!!!!!! I SEE WHAT IT IS ON HERE....A BUNCH OF BROKE AZZ HATERS, WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A POSITION OF POWER...SAD!

WELL LET ME SPEAK FOR THE BOSSES...ITS REALLY "GET DOWN OR LAY DOWN" IN THIS GAME. I AINT SUPPORTING NO NAGGA TILL HE BLEED ME DRY FUX DAT..... I WILL LEAVE U FACE DOWN IN THE DIRT BEFORE U PUT ME THERE.

THESE CRYIN AZZ HOE NAGGAS "OH JAY DO EVERYBODY LIKE DAT" WELL IF U FUGGIN KNOW THAT WHY NOT MOVE THE FUX ON. IF I KNOW A CAT GOT SHADY WAYS IMMA PLAY THE GAME JUST AS HE IS BUT ONE STEP AHEAD. IF NOT THEN U ARE

"THE EPITOMY OF A SUCKER"

A PUZZY WAITING TO BE FUXED

PLENTY OF MOFO HAD THEY WHOLE LIVES RIDING ON ME...... I AINT THEY MOMS SO WHY SHOULD I?

ALL U CATS TALKING BOUT LOYALTY BUT THINK OF THIS .....
IF IT EVER CAME DOWN TO U AND UR BFF FIGHTING FOR UR LIVES, WOULD U LET HIM KILL U?
======================================
NO HATIN JUST THE TRUTH!
November 1, 2009 7:13 PM
 

smackabitch said:

damn dat niggga's scary!
November 1, 2009 7:17 PM
 

El.CaMiNo_82BoY said:

I understand why Jay-Z wanted to separate himself from some of his former label mates & colleagues in order to get accepted with corporate big wigs!

I see why Jay-Z treated his boy Dame Dash like he did when Dipset relocated to Roc-A-Fella.

I realize how Jay-Z wont own up to his son... who he never talks about.

But Jay-Z painted his own picture of himself as a con & jealous snake just like puffy... Rap dudes who hide behind $!

I will never hate on a business power move because I understand what direction Jay-Z going. But how can Jay-Z justify the fact that he call the cops on Beans @ BP3 event.

I think Jay-Z and Dame Dash would still be running Roc-A-Fella if 2day if Jay-Z wasn't soo jealous of Dame Dash and Cam'rons relationship once Dipset went over to Roc-A-Fella

$ and good health is what we all strive for... But I'll never sell my soul and act shady for white society to accept me. Jay-Z is a legend in the business but I doubt other legends like Biggie or 2pac would've acted like this to Junior Mafia or Outlawz.

Beans did do some stupid things during his time @ Roc-A-Fella and Jay-Z had plenty of opportunities to release Beans but Jay-Z kept him around for his rap beefs and street cred.
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dynastydiva said:

DID U SAY I WAS A WANNA BE TRICK? THAT SCARF AND HAT U SEE IN THIS PIC WOULD PAY UR RENT FOR A FEW MONTHS

NO HOE.... I WORKED FOR ROC-A-FELLA FROM 2005- 2007,I HAVE HAD LUNCH WITH ARROGANT DASH AND HAVE SPENT AT LEAST 20K ON ONLY JAY SHOWS

WANNA BE'S POST FAKE PICS TO GARNER THEIR WHORISH NEEDS....I ON THE OTHER HAND AM JUST ME ...BAD AS FUX WITH ALL MY CLOTHES ON, A HUGE HOME A NICE WHIP AND MONEY TO BLOW.

SO AS FAR AS BEEF WITH U SMACK A BYTCH... IM LIKE JAY ON THIS ONE.... NEVER BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO ME TO TO ACCOMPLISH THAT SWEETHEART... BUT MENTALLY, I WILL AND CAN CRUSH U...

IN THE WORDS OF BYTCH BEANS " THIS AINT A DISS"
November 1, 2009 9:15 PM
 

xxmo0kszxx said:

one thing i hate is when n***as go on from HE said she said shxt and run with it. you dont know what n***as puttn out herre is the truth. yeah i get jay-z point. im not a fan of jay-z and to be honest i aint hear shxt beanie was on. but the ways beans going @ it is not in a manly nature. thats a bxtch move. yeah as MC's u battle and all go back & forth. but look jay-z almost 40 or is 40 or over it w.e the case is. its times when u grow up from s**tu used to do. and start on a new path. u cant be 50 yrs old still reppin ur hood and shit. how do you look????????? like a dumbass. talkn about beans streets. but do u see the streets taking care of him? hell no!!! all this black menatlity going around is garbage and this is why n***as never go no where and will NEVER be shxt. and this dude 50 cent commenting like who asked youu? always up on jay's d**k. like foreal look @ how he did rick ross on some childish shxt. nobody has time to go back and forth with people.
and by the way i think jay-z won out of him & nas. and i likee nas. but jay-z came @ it. even though some say jay admitted defeat. i just think he acknowleged the fact that nas had pulled some weight and got @ him. it was a good battle. nas has a diff type style but when u can incoroporate it with the NOW and do business with it thats when u become one of the greatest. like jay-z.
and look @ biggie and pac. two deaad MF's who couldnt give up the street life. you learn from other peoples mistakes.
so who really knows if jay actually called the cops on him maybe it was someone else. but all i know n***as alreeady know the only person loyal to you is yourself and once u hold onto to that you'll never be that bxtch n***a like beans. :)
November 1, 2009 9:31 PM
 

stfuyban said:

well well well. I really dont think Jay Z.'s owes that n***a a conversation. I mean dont get me wrong he did chump that n***a off cold as ice but the boss dont visit niggaz in jail. Beans you my n***a but alot of times as street niggaz we use this word loyalty too loosely.  Loyalty is based on a foundation that is not created transaction, loyalty is based on a foundation that is created by unconditional love. Yeah you was the front line soldier in the Rockafella army, BUT, why were you willing to take a bullet for rocafella. Because you was eating. Your whole "illusion of loyalty" was based on the fact that them niggaz was ya meal ticket. Now again its fucked up that them niggaz fanned the flame of your misconception of their hidden motives but its all in the game. It was a take and take relationship from the beginning. They were capitalizing on your street cred and you were capitalizing on the opportunity they presented to you. In the end your eyes were opened to the truth and its always fucked up when the puppet sees his strings so I understand the diss song. But how does the puppet master break the news to puppet that his whole world is a lie. He doesnt, because that would be defeating the purpose of being the puppet master and would be like shooting his own damself in the foot. I'm really giving you sheep way too much game right now but I FELT like being generous today. v%33 Y  if messed up that sometimes you gotta think for people before get mad enough to think for themselves....  
November 1, 2009 9:43 PM
 

xxmo0kszxx said:

how can you say that jay-z let his mans go to jail????????/ he let himself go to jail. SMFH.
then check it people sayn jay-z a sellout. as usual people are not seeing the business side of it. being as beanie couldnt stay out of jail and all why would he take that negro to roc nation. rhianna and kanye maken him money so why not. the game is ruthless. i know you've heard many rappers talk about it. so dont try to act like the game isnt a legit mafia.
smh open ur mind. jay-z does what he does. and u cant hate on itt. u nvr know what it is until ur in their situation
November 1, 2009 10:13 PM
 

dynastydiva said:

IM GLAD NAGGAS STOP CO SIGNIN BEANS... I MEAN REALLY HE GOT SIGNED FROM FREESTYLIN IN A CLUB...WHAT LUCK! THEN MAKE ALL THIS MONEY ALL THESE MOVIES BRING UR FRIENDS IN THEN GO RIGHT BACK TO THE STREETS? FAILURE! WHEN U MAKE A MAJOR DEAL EVERYTHING SUPPOSED TO CHANGE, INCLUDING UR STREET WAYS ...EVEN IF U IN THE STREET U ARE CAREFUL...NOT STUPID AND LOCKED UP. HE NOT ONLY LET HIMSELF DOWN HE LET THE VERY PEOPLE HE BROGHT IN DOWN...WHAT A LOSER....

NO LONGER A BEANS FAN
November 1, 2009 11:02 PM
 

EST said:

I swear some you illiterate posters need subtitles, translators or decoders to understand your comments, attempting to read some of this s**tis painful, damn.
November 1, 2009 11:06 PM
 

Dmobile215 said:

I am from Philly and I am not surprised this is happening. Jay Z made a good choice sometimes you got to let some things go and if its meant to be business then it will happen again. But I think those court cases is what messed beenie's money up.

Trust me I know those court cases can ruin you, along with the peoples who your cool with it can make you really go through something.

Beenie is just venting about s**tthat is jail house talk for real he will bounce back no need to choose sides or get nasty about it. Beenie has been through a lot. I am still fans of both artist not saying one is better then the other Jay Z is a business man. As well as a rapper but Jigga has to learn now what type of people he has to surround himself with because this type of drama can lead to people getting hurt. Real Rapp don't sleep on Beenie is a solider and I know Jay Z got New York but Sigel Street is nothing to play with trust me!
November 2, 2009 1:30 AM
 

charizma said:

"grown men wanna sit on my lap/ i dont have a beard and santa claus aint black."
November 2, 2009 7:32 AM
 

LImelight09 said:

Yamoley Almighty said:
Beans should be happy he wasn't a part of that BP3 disaster....that deceitful camel is on some corny, techno, futurama type of bulls**t these days...let him collabo with a bunch of half-a-b***h n***as like Cudi and Drake. Beans style is too raw....and Jay ho ass is side stepping the issues Beans touched on, same ol song and dance with this clown. Whatever the tension is with the two and their able to patch it up, cool, but if not, it's no big deal....Sigel don't need Hov's b***h ass.

beans need somebody...cuz the money running out son!!! man that song is wack....talkin all that cry baby shit...aint u the broad street bully....man the f**k up....n***a sound like a bunch of n***as on here.....look in the mirror son....u fucked ya self up.....by not knowing wut to do....800.000 sold but them n***as blessed u....oh yea for ya info...aint no ny vs. philly.........we run that town point blank.....they small fries........yanks look like they playing at home in philly huh??? thats cuz they is......
November 2, 2009 8:33 AM
 

Rundistownclown said:

beans need somebody...cuz the money running out son!!! man that song is wack....talkin all that cry baby shit...aint u the broad street bully....man the f**k up....n***a sound like a bunch of n***as on here.....look in the mirror son....u fucked ya self up.....by not knowing wut to do....800.000 sold but them n***as blessed u....oh yea for ya info...aint no ny vs. philly.........we run that town point blank.....they small fries........yanks look like they playing at home in philly huh??? thats cuz they is......


I don't like you lime but i must agree with you fam.
November 2, 2009 8:46 AM
 

oldboy1986 said:

why does everyone think that Jay selling out or going pop or whatever has anything to do with some conspiracy involving the white man. You idiots are giving "the whiteman" too much credit. Jay doesn't need any whiteman or any man to prosper. He sold out because that's what everyone does when they get to the position in life that he's in. It's the green devil, not the white one.
November 2, 2009 9:31 AM
 

Saint_Sinatra said:

For real. I don't see no conspiracy in all of this. Judah, I vibe wit a lot of what you be sayin, but I don't think Jay is prayin to no goat-god. His mama would whoop his ass and I don't think Mr. Knowles or Bey would appreciate him prayin to a homo-goat.

But on the whole Beans thing, it seems like most of Beans issues came  from the collapse of his clothing line and label. But those were ventures that he left in the hands of Dame. It sounds to me like he needs to be airin those grievances out on the other side of the Roc. From what he was sayin on 100.3, Dame was dippin in his cookie jar; Jay was tryin to put cookies in it. It sounds to me like Dame is the one that needs the diss song. I don't think Beans shoulda took it there...
November 2, 2009 10:26 AM
 

UrbanRebel88 said:

first off that situation is all crazy, cant take sides just hope beans and jay get that handled, um and

@dynastydiva

say homegurl, u can call ppl broke ass haters, but im doin my thing, just to be up front witchu, i only cum for tha news, and to drop an opinion, i dont have as much time to jump on this mofo, except wen im at work blowing sum time, but dont label erbody on here, no disrespect but this site is open to erbody homy

lemme quote, "OMG!!!!!!!! I SEE WHAT IT IS ON HERE....A BUNCH OF BROKE AZZ HATERS, WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A POSITION OF POWER...SAD!" um homy i work for NASA,

@liquidswords, and bigeast76cide

GO LAKERS, dallas gon get theres, lol
November 2, 2009 10:48 AM
 

BIGEAST76CIDE said:

@URBANREBEL88

WHAT IT DO HOMIE?
November 2, 2009 11:49 AM
 

CHOICEhiphop said:

I think Jay-Z's success where he's crossing into other realms and becoming a big time business is making others feel left out and even intimidated. I thought Beanie was one of them grimy dudes who toughed it out and for him to have the golden opportunity that so many want, and to not appreciate it, is sad. This mindset represents most of hiphop today - I remember watchin' "da band" and how they were complaining that Diddy made them walk to Brooklyn for some cheesecake and they were complaining!! I almost threw up cause I would have went to BK bare foot on broken glass to have an opportunity to work with Diddy.
November 2, 2009 11:55 AM
 

MrLexDiamondz said:

@ Beezwax

But you know EVERYONE n they mother got an opinion.
November 2, 2009 1:24 PM
 

WAYZE said:

yo first off im a jay-z fan and i dont agree wit jay gettin beans escorted out of the concert or whateva.. thats wack...
but as far as people saying jay need to go at beans lyrically.. for what???? n***as grind to make it out the hood and get away from all the negativity and drama and shit... beans aint puttin no money in jay pocket so why worry about that n***a?? why give him publicity??

and another thing is everybody sayin oh they aint push beans projects hard enough... thats every rapper story lol....

only point i agree wit beans on is he shouldve let that n***a out his contract when he asked to be release.

but f**k both of them and they issues, go listen to my music

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November 2, 2009 2:02 PM
 

UrbanRebel88 said:

@bigeast76cide

wudup homie, erbody tryna get at me bout tha lakers since they lost, theres 82 games in the season they need to kill that, but thats on sum otha s**twit beans and jay
November 2, 2009 3:06 PM
 

MackSwami said:

DAMN JAY JUST SILENCED THE "BEEF" WITHOUT EVEN RAPPING.
FUNNY HOW MUFFUCCAS FORGET THE PAST SOON AS IT ALL GO BAD FOR THEM.  BUT IT WAS ALL GOOD JUST A WEEK AGO. I USED TO ROCK WIT BEANIE FOR REAL FOR REAL BUT I LOST ALOT OF RESPECT AFTER THIS ONE. CZNT BE LIVE HE WENT OUT LIKE THAT.  ESPECIALLY WITH THAT "BEY" LINE. THAT s**tWAS NOT G AT ALL.
JAY DID RIGHT. HE GOT AWAY FROM THE HATE AND ALL THE bulls**t GAVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE. BLEEK THE MOST LOYAL NICCA AND HAS BEEN FROM DAY ONE AND THATS WHY HE DONT EVEN GOT TO RECORD TO MAKE MONEY. JAY f**kin WIT OPRAH AND OBAMA. STEP YALL GAME UP!!!!  
   
November 2, 2009 4:14 PM
 

UrbanRebel88 said:

@bigeast76cide

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November 2, 2009 6:39 PM
 

filthyrich3233 said:

Jay Z is mad shiesty and Shady  since let's say when 2PAC was

coming at him he never responded.......NAS Bodied him on Ether!!!!

He would send other lesser known rappers at them and hide behind

some "King of New York"  Persona.  He uses Auto Tune then makes a

Song against it.  After benefitting from it (Kanye West).  Beanie

supposed to be your MAN?????!!!! Let him out of his contract.  Jay

did not catch on until his 3rd Album with the "Hard Knock Life" song

There has always been whispers about this Dude and his Shady

Practice


November 2, 2009 6:43 PM
 

smackabitch said:

DID U SAY I WAS A WANNA BE TRICK? THAT SCARF AND HAT U SEE IN THIS PIC
WOULD PAY UR RENT FOR A FEW MONTHS

NO HOE.... I WORKED FOR ROC-A-FELLA FROM 2005- 2007,I HAVE HAD LUNCH WITH ARROGANT DASH AND HAVE SPENT AT LEAST 20K ON ONLY JAY SHOWS

WANNA BE'S POST FAKE PICS TO GARNER THEIR WHORISH NEEDS....I ON THE OTHER HAND AM JUST ME ...BAD AS FUX WITH ALL MY CLOTHES ON, A HUGE HOME A NICE WHIP AND MONEY TO BLOW.

SO AS FAR AS BEEF WITH U SMACK A BYTCH... IM LIKE JAY ON THIS ONE.... NEVER BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO ME TO TO ACCOMPLISH THAT SWEETHEART... BUT MENTALLY, I WILL AND CAN CRUSH U...

IN THE WORDS OF BYTCH BEANS " THIS AINT A DISS"
================================
GLAD TO SEE YOUR WELL OFF MO POWER TO YOU!

FOR AS MENTALLY CRUSHING ME.. NAW TO STRONG MINDED FOR THAT!

IM NOT A SIMP ASS NIGGAH!

BUT ON THE KOOL TIP NO BEEF SHIITS FOR THE BIRDS!

I JUST YOU THINK BEFORE CALLLIN SOMEBODY A BROKE HATER!

A LOT OF JUST GLAD SOMEBODY EXPOSED CAMEL!

November 2, 2009 6:45 PM
 

Carolina_Boyy said:

man i swear most of all yall ahh n***as got Jay-Z nuts on ya chins!!!
November 3, 2009 12:01 AM
 

dynastydiva said:

HERE'S MY POINT .....PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE JAY ARE USUALLY PEOPLE WITH NO AMBITION, NO DRIVE NO DREAMS. I MEAN SERIOUSLY PUT A LIL WAYNE OR GUCCI MANE FANATIC AND A JAY FANATIC 2GETHER AD U WILL SEE THEY SEE TWO ENTIRELY DIFFRENT LEVELS, WITH THEY JAY FAN FAR MORE ADVANCED.

IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN IN A POSITION OF POWER U WOULD UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN HOLD SOMEONES HAND, HELP THEM TREAT THEM WELL ONLY TO HAVE THEM BETRAY YOU AND PUT YOUR BUSINESS OUT THERE... TRUST ME I BEEN THERE AND I WONT GO BACK....FUGG ERRYBODY, NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!! ITS ME OR THEM.

WHEN I LOOK AT MY GENERATION SIDING WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THE SAME THING THAT ALL MY LEECH-AZZ YES MAN-AZZ FREINDS DID IT ANGERS ME. I SEE THEM SAME "BROKE AZZ HATER" THAT I SEE WALKING THE STREETS THAT I SEE ON THE WEB  
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