Chuck Philips

Chuck Philips vs. Jimmy Henchman – Vengeance In The Verdict


Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Chuck Philips has come forward to clear his name in the ongoing saga of music mogul James “Jimmy Henchman” Rosemond, who was recently convicted of heading up a Continuous Criminal Enterprise, the first such conviction in the history of the Hip-Hop business. I’ve known Chuck since around 2007, after a variety of investigative pieces were published, regarding Tupac’s shooting at the Quad, as well as his subsequent death in 1996, along with the murder of The Notorious B.I.G. in 1997.

When Chuck and I started communicating, I was a bit uneasy. He had a pretty bad reputation in our community, because of the numerous articles he had written on both of these touchy subjects. After awhile, I had received a few aggressive emails from Chuck regarding Diddy that I didn’t particulary appreciate, so I stopped replying to him. Things got even thornier after he published a controversial article in the Los Angeles Times, regarding Tupac’s shooting at the Quad in 1994.

The Los Angeles Times contacted me the weekend prior to their article being published to give me a heads up about the article, so I went ahead and published a story, on their story. Well that did not go over well with Sean “Diddy” Combs or James “Jimmy Henchman,” who both contacted me immediately (on my birthday, to top it all off), to debunk the story and claim that the allegations contained in the article were false. So everyone in this industry was shocked, when TheSmokingGun.com dropped a bombshell – The L.A. Times’ article contained phony “302” documents that helped sink the story – along with Chuck Philip’s career. He was laid off by the L.A. Times and no publication would touch his writings.

A few summers ago, I started meeting Chuck in Los Angeles, just to check him out. A mutual friend that’s not in the industry co-signed him, and by coincidence, we had the same friend, who also co-signed me. So, when we met in person, there was no ice. I have to admit, I like Chuck. He’s a very cool, authentic guy, with lots of crazy stories to tell. Below is just one of them, written by the man himself, exclusively for AllHipHop.com. Chuck does not mince his words in this piece. Since most people accused him of being unscrupulous as a journalist, it was only fitting that we publish his unedited work, just as we did for Jimmy Henchman, Dexter Issac or any of the other players in the Tupac Shakur shooting saga.

My name is Chuck Philips. I’m the white devil Jimmy Henchman loves to hate. The Pulitizer Prize winning cracker he claims fabricates fairy tales for the government. He calls me: snitch; fraud; stool pigeon.

He should know. He’s an expert. Frames friends, and foes. Got away with it for decades. Ask Tut. Ask Panama. Ask Jack. Better yet, ask Tupac – or maybe his hologram.

This time, it’s my fault. To hear Jimmy tell it, I am the root of all evil, the cause of his demise: his drug indictment in the Eastern District; his murder indictment in the Southern District. His entire rap sheet: Crack distribution. Money Laundering. Obstruction Of Justice.

According to Jimmy, I’ve been plotting against him since March 17, 2008 – the day The LA Times published an expose I wrote blaming him for Tupac’s 1994 ambush, a story he said ruined his reputation, and set the stage for his current predicament.

Tupac

Tupac

The article, titled “An Attack on Tupac Shakur Launched a Hip-Hop War,” was based on interviews with the guys who assaulted Tupac 18 years ago at the Quad. Pac blamed Jimmy, who had invited him to the studio that night to record a song with an artist he represented. Pac’s assailants blamed Jimmy too. They said he hired them to rough up Pac and make it look like a robbery.

My report was accompanied by FBI-302s I got from a case file in a Florida court months after finishing my investigation, official documentation that supported some of what my interviewed sources had said. Eight days after publication, the FBI-302s were exposed as fakes by thesmokinggun.com.

If you believe Jimmy, I’m the reason he was on trial. The gist of his defense is that my “defamatory” article, and follow-up reporting, inspired his co-defendants to frame him as part of a government conspiracy to bring a brutha down.

“Chuck Philips – who was fired by The LA Times after it was revealed that he falsified documents for a libelous story he fabricated about me back in 2008 – started writing dozens of letters to inmates serving considerable time in federal prison, begging them to cooperate in a grand jury convening on cooked up allegations against me,” Jimmy said in a statement released last year while he was on run. “The authorities employed Chuck Philips to spread baseless stories claiming that I was a rat. Their hope was to dupe susceptible people into cooperating with their bogus investigation.”

First off, the alleged FBI fakes did not form the basis of my article. My sources did: the very individuals he hired to attack Pac.

Secondly, I have never fabricated any document, or article, in my career. Nor have I ever begged any inmate to cooperate for a grand jury. Jimmy has a penchant for exaggeration, to put it mildly.

He twisted smokingun.com’s indictment of the fake 302s into an exoneration of his role in the Quad ambush.

Then he and his attorney, Jeffrey Lichtman, distorted smokinggun’s conclusions into a vile smear campaign against me online, attacking my credibility, demanding I be fired.

They got their wish. Jimmy and Jeffrey fleeced the newspaper for a quarter million bucks, snookered them into printing a false retraction, plus walked away with my head on a platter.

Lichtman has since been disqualified as Jimmy’s lawyer. The court ruled he had a conflict of interest. In the past, Lichtman represented a number of Jimmy’s co-defendants, and, according to Jimmy’s sworn statements, also accepted thousands of dollars in dirty cash as payment for legal bills.

Jimmy’s new lawyer, Gerald Shargel, spent 15 minutes of his opening argument in trial railing about me, by name.

Jimmy Henchman

Jimmy Henchman

I couldn’t believe my ears. I was sitting in the courtroom (I flew in to cover the trial) listening as he launched into a litany of anti-Chuck Philips accusations: Chuck Philips this. Chuck Philips that. Chuck Philips – the anti-Christ of 21st Century Journalism – published false articles with fabricated documents to purposely defame his poor defenseless little client: a hard-working, God-fearing, self-made African-American entrepreneur. Chuck Philips solicited prison inmates for the government, inciting them to snitch on an innocent, family loving, freedom-fighting humanitarian. It was surreal.

As I was about to leave the courtroom on the first day of trial, one of Jimmy’s henchmen served me with a subpoena – a summons to appear as a defense witness, to testify on his behalf.

The subpoena was not issued to ensure I would show up in court. To the contrary, it was a ploy to keep me out of court, to stop me from covering the trial. In fact, the very next morning, his attorney asked that I be ejected from the building, arguing that it would be unfair to let me witness the proceedings before I testified, because it might influence my upcoming testimony.

Right.

You might ask yourself how a white guy like me came to be such a thorn in Jimmy’s side? Who anointed me the expert on the East Coast/West Coast rap war of the 1990s – that unprecedented era in American history, which left a trail of body bags from New York to Los Angeles, and culminated in the murders of Pac and Biggie?

What qualifies me to write about rap in the first place?

Ever been to Detroit? That’s where I’m from. Race and ethnicity mean nothing to me, but if they do to you: My father was Armenian and my mother was Canadian, with descendants from England and Ireland. I was born in the Motor City nearly six decades ago.

The hospital where I took my first breath is barely a stone’s throw from Hitsville, USA – the tiny West Grand Blvd. house where Berry Gordy launched Motown Records, just around the corner from the once-famous, now-defunct New Bethel Baptist Church, founded by Aretha Franklin’s dad, the mighty American orator, Rev. C.L. Franklin.

Jimmy once texted me a quasi-racist taunt: “You’re not from our world, so you will always fall into traps, where you will be tricked and laughed about like a fool,” he said, impersonating the wife of a Brooklyn MDC inmate to whom I had written. “You talk real tough but [that’s to be] expected from a cracker who wants to be black and write about rap.”

Chuck Philips

Chuck Philips

Black. White. Yellow. Brown. Psalm 100 teaches us all to make a joyful noise. Music is a healing power, the purest art form on earth. I grew up on Grace and Mercy. I got something the cops cannot arrest. I got something the robbers cannot steal. I may not be from your world, Jimmy, but one kind favor I will ask of you. Hold my mule.

I came up loving all kinds of songs, from all types of music genres: Rock, Country, R&B, Pop. But if I had to pick, I’d say black American music is my personal favorite. Hands down. Black music, to me, is pure genius, the mother of it all: Soul, Blues, Jazz, Gospel, R&B, Funk, Rock and Rap.

Miles Davis, Sun Ra, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, James Brown, Louis Jordan, John Lee Hooker, Curtis Mayfield, Muddy Waters, Otis Redding, John Coltrane, Bobby Womack, Shirley Caesar, Al Green, Max Roach, James Cleveland, Gregory Porter, Jimmy Smith, NWA, Cube, Snoop and Dre dominate my CD collection, and make up the soundtrack of my life. These artists make me proud I’m American.

Prior to becoming a reporter, I worked a series of menial jobs: factory worker, phone solicitor, print maker, maintenance man. In my early 20s, I spent more time hitchhiking than working, skipping back and forth across the U.S., and Canada, up and down the West Coast.

My love of music led me to Rio de Janeiro, Madrid, Bogota, Barcelona, Paris, Cusco and all over Japan. I arrived in California 40 years ago at Venice Beach, lived here and there, settled in Santa Monica.

I came to journalism late in life. LA Times pop music critic Robert Hilburn helped forge my first beat, suggesting I cover the music industry as a business. I lucked into a lot of explosive scoops: 2 Live Crew, Milli Vanilli, Ticketmaster vs. Pearl Jam, corruption at the Grammys, unfair artist contracts, unscrupulous rehab programs, censorship, racism, sexual harassment and other unethical and illegal practices in the global corporate music business.

All of a sudden, rappers started having run-ins with the law. Snoop arrested for murder. Dre busted for punching a cop. Tupac detained for attacking a director. Death Row was always in trouble: Suge was either dangling somebody from a high-rise hotel balcony, threatening an executive with a lead pipe, or trying to bribe a prosecutor with a recording contract. By the time the riots erupted in LA, I was pumping out twice as many crime scoops as business articles.

I cut my teeth on street crime as the rap war commenced. Big Jake. Buck and L. Yafeu Fula. Stretch. Preme. Wolf. Big Meech. But I missed a lot of stories back then, including the Quad ambush, which, at the time, I mistakenly saw as a publicity stunt.

Still, Pac impressed me, so I wrote a lot about him: (1) a suit filed by the widow of a Texas trooper who was shot to death by a car thief who claimed Pac’s lyrics inspired him to pull the trigger. (2) the LA limo assault, (3) the crooked cop shooting, (4) the Parker Meridian catastrophe. The way I saw it, Pac had all the makings of a true American anti-hero – an insanely talented and severely flawed artist.

Tupac and Faith

Tupac and Faith

I interviewed him in 1992 by phone for Rolling Stone. In September 1995, he offered me his first post-prison interview for The LA Times. We met at a studio in Encino where I watched him laying down tracks for “All Eyez On Me.” (These were the sessions that yielded “Hit Em Up!”) I was so unaware I suspected absolutely nothing when I saw a sultry Faith Evans emerge that afternoon from the back of the studio. I didn’t ask a single question about the Quad. Not because I was afraid of the subject, but because I was too dense to comprehend the gravity of the situation. Didn’t ask anything about Puff, or Biggie, either.

At that point, I was oblivious to the rap war, engrossed in conversation, grateful to witness Pac’s mind in action. I remember feeling elated when suddenly, out of nowhere, he launched into a dissertation about Shakespeare, comparing the Crips and Bloods to the Capulets and Montagues.

Back then, I knew nothing about Jimmy. Heard his name once or twice, but he meant nothing to me. Before I started my 2007 investigation into the Quad ambush, I had no suspicions. Even after I found out who he was, and had determined his place in history, I never imagined he would come after me with such a vengeance.

What was I thinking? This was the guy who set up Pac. Why not me?

It never dawned on me, until last February, when Jimmy started distributing copies of a purported court affidavit to hip-hop sites. The affidavit detailed statements by an old friend of Jimmy’s (incarcerated at Ray Brook Federal Penitentiary) who swore under oath that he helped fabricate the fake Quad 302s and filed them in court, at a time when the inmate said he was corresponding with Jimmy.

It made me wonder whether Jimmy had participated in creating the content of the fake 302s (a cheap Rovian disinformation tactic used to discredit true stories), before I stumbled onto them in a Florida court file.

As Jimmy’s campaign against me began to take shape, I realized the fake 302s were not the reason he wanted me fired. Looking back on it now I’m guessing that he was less concerned about what I had already uncovered than about what I was certain to find out, should I be allowed to keep digging.

He had reason to be nervous. Jimmy knew I was communicating directly with his ex-partners in crime – old friends privy to his most damning secrets. I had crossed bridges he burned long ago. (I was already onto the drug ring).

His ex-pals not only knew that the high priest of rap’s anti-snitch underground was, in fact, a snitch. They told me that Jimmy and a powerful friend or two in the music business had bigger skeletons hiding in their closets.

Jimmy Henchman

Jimmy Henchman

The uproar surrounding the fake 302s was phonier than the paperwork itself. I did not fabricate the documents. I did not know they were fakes when I obtained them from a federal court file. It wasn’t even my idea to publish them. That decision was made by the LA Times.

Retracing the chronology of events, it is obvious that Jimmy and his attorney, Jeffrey Lichtman, knew the 302s were fakes long before my March 17, 2008 article came out.

“Any first-year lawyer could see that the FBI 302 reports which formed the basis of the Times’ story were fabricated,” Lichtman told MTV immediately after thesmokinggun.com report came out trashing my article.

What Lichtman failed to reveal, however, was that he personally had nearly three full weeks to inspect the 302s before my story ever saw the light of day. (I had faxed him the FBI documents 20 days in advance, seeking a response to include in my published piece).

Assuming Lichtman is competent enough to discern what any first-year lawyer might, why would he permit The LA Times to publish a defamatory article about his client that could irreparably damage his reputation?

If it was so obvious that the documents were fabricated, did he not have a legal obligation to notify Jimmy, and me, before my story came out?

You might ask yourself why an esteemed member of the 135-year-old New York State Bar Association would intentionally allow his own client to be defamed, particularly, when he had the power to prevent it from happening in the first place?

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  • TruthSerum

    Interesting read.

    Regardless of how much a liar this guy may or may not be, nothing changes what Jimmy is, a scumbag criminal who made millions in music and was still too greedy to turn his back on a street life he clearly didnt need anymore, who then turned into a snitch and tried to sink everybody he knows to get a lighter sentence.

    I dont see how any of you can respect this man. I personally dont respect drug dealers to begin with, I understand some cases of desperation but I still dont agree with it, so dude was at the bottom for me anyway, but even those of you bottom feeders who find something cool about selling poison must still take issue with the fact that he’s such a coward he tried to take everybody he knows down with him. Find a way to blame racism for this guy singing his heart out to the FEDS, lol, I’m sure some of you will try anyway….

    • Nah , no one outside his circle fuggs with Jimmy.
      On drug dealers:

      Hard to blame the unemployed brother on the street for selling drugs & in the same voice , praise the young brother , earning minimum wage at the local Rite-Aid , CVS , Pharmacy , etc. , for having a job…..selling worse drugs.
      ( Compared to weed , Ciallis , Lunestra , Viagra , Alcohol & all the other drugs advertised on TV , picture advertisements , etc.)

      Money makes the world go round.
      Jail & Mom’s house are the only 2 places you can stay for free.

      The kid who flips a nick , into 2 trays , 2 a dizzy , to a dub, onion, pig, etc, has shown more entrepreneurial skills , than the monkey see , monkey do , Public FOOL system graduate , who was only taught how to read , write & act.

      Not saying he will succeed selling weed , just that he took himself from clerk to CEO , on his own , for himself & probably his family.

      Blue Hill Ave Voice ( Mom Duke To Son Treston’s Voice , In Hospital With Baby Sister That just Smoked The Back Of Her 15yr Throat Out On His Crack ) :
      ” We gave you everything! A good home , family , schooling……Why did you choose to sell drugs?” < Crying

      In Blue Hill Ave's Treston's Voice : " Because I'm GOOD AT IT! " – With Stone Face & Crying At Same Time.

      Some cats chose too , some have no other option.

      Jimmy had other options.

      A crying , hungry baby , that won't take no for an answer , is the worse sounds their parent can hear. Your baby starving? 

      Can't blame no man for doing what he has to do to take care of his kids as long as he's not infringing on other people's rights.

      Jimmy ain't have no starving kids , there were options.

      If drugs were legal , could he even make $$$? The prisons? Courts? Related professions?

      Would people even use them?

      In Dope Fiend Voice : " Hey man! wanna stick this nasty a$$ needle in your veins & get high? No? How about spark that fat L of Roof Top  Kush?

      In Dr.'s Voice : " There is a cure for not being able to sleep , eat , relax, chill, etc, whenever , experimental drug X,Y,Z , but you have to sign a form stating you won't sue me if your liver shuts down , or it kills you & it will be $2, 837.62 a month ,  or $500 for the finest bud for a month , with no forms ……but you have to Spark one up b4 you leave…to verify the integrity of course."

      MiJac dead from using anesthesia to go to sleep.

      A Fat L & documentary on Jimmy Henchmen will put you in just as deep a sleep……probably without the Fat L.

      • TruthSerum

        ^^^

        Like I said, I understand it, I just dont respect it. If I had to do what I had to do to eat then I would, but I wouldnt be proud of it & I damn sure wouldnt boast about it.

        I have personal reasons tho, an idiot in-law with a kid at home thats on probation and goes to jail for 5 years because he got busted with  5 OZ’s of coke on him while he was still on papers, then writes letters wanting money for his account so he can get snacks & better shoes, I wrote him back and told him “If I had extra money I’d buy your son a gift with it”, lol

      • Ouch!

        I fell ya’ %100

        Everyone I knew that did it, had too , never boasted, then again, back then, drug dealers hid it from their parents & friends parents.

        I know one that left his house at 8am & came back at 6pm, like he went to work.

      • ItGoesDownINtheDM

        @ the end of the day for the cats that really trying to GET IT … it is a job

      • ItGoesDownINtheDM

        my work history dates back down to when i was 14yo …. imo something is wrong with you if your 100% healthy and the only work you can find is selling drugs ….. IJS 😉 …. damn edog i expected a better answer from you in regards to that ….. cocaine dealing salary can uplift countries ….. thats way too much money and risk to be going out on a limb on some OH IM JUST TRYING TO FEED MY FAMILY ….. #greed 😉

      • ItGoesDownINtheDM

         side note anyone will be good @ selling a product that already has a huge buying public and has serious sales history …….. thats like getting a truck load of jordan sneakers …. ILLEGALLY !! and then looking @ this kid like hes some genuis cause hes making millions off of something someone else already  built the demand for ……………………. ijs …. thats why i really shake my head @ dudes who selling death and still be broke … and thier only broke cause they have no concept of stacking and always having re-up money and stacking on top of that so you can move up that scale ………. and like i said that not just a drug thing …….. that process can be implemented into anything thats already has a demand out there ……. Now if that same person pulls a no name kid off the street and can turn him into the next jayz ….. THEN YOU MIGHT BE SAYING SOMETHING …. cause that will have to take some real effort and strategizing to make it happen ….!!!!!!!!

  • Tk_Z

    Why does Faith get a pass for this, fair enough she slept with the dude, it’s her business, but when you watch the movie and see how she was portrayed (the loving, perfect wife), its kinda saddening.

    This reporter sounds like he was a big Pac fan and was trying to get to the bottom of Pac’s story, which I can respect.
    But the rap game is messed up, all of dem are forever praising Pac whenever they can, but they hang out with the people who led to his demise. You got Game who name drops Pac in nearly every sentence and then who is Henchman’s right hand man, I personally just don’t understand how you can play both sides.  I hate to say this but Suge was right, how you gonna say Pac is Back (Rick Ross), when you are rolling with Diddy.

    Cant also get over the fact the Henchman was behind the stop snitching movement, this rap game is truly fake.

    • “I hate to say this but Suge was right, how you gonna say Pac is Back (Rick Ross), when you are rolling with Diddy.”
      Wow!

    • scullyson

      Not to mention Hypocritical…smh

  • WoW!

    Grouchy Greg done dropped a Biz Ziz Zomb with this!

    Dayum!

    Put him up in the TOP tier with this Chuck Phillips scoop.

    Damn good read , but this $hyt had me hollaRin:

    “Suge was either dangling somebody from a high-rise hotel balcony, threatening an executive with a lead pipe, or trying to bribe a prosecutor with a recording contract. “…..Chuck Phillips

    Vanilla Ice don’t mention that 5 Heartbeats :
    Suge >> ” My office hours are from…>>pointing finger at Vanilla Ice
    Van I >> Voice stammering , spongebob tears welling up as he finishes Suge’s sentence : 
    ” Nine to…..five!”  >>Breaks down , hysterically crying 

    Fugg around , Chuck Phillips gonna do a story about how P.M. Dawn won the 1st Grammy for rap & later on , were physically tossed like salad , off the stage by KRS 1.

    Good read 4 sure!
    Thanx Grouchy Greg & Chuck Phillips

    Searches for Hipper name for Chuck P
    Reporter P?
    Maybe just Chuck P

    On Fake 302’s:
    If they were in a court file , can’t blame Chuck for that.

    • This actually WAS a good read! They need to offer him a jon at AllHipHop lol I dont know who to believe in this big a$$ “soap opera” but this defintately raised an eye brow with me. Good stuff!

      • Hmm, Chuck phillips on Ahh?

        that would be a power move.

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  • MotorCityWarrior

    Well, well.  Jimmy Henchman gets his due.

    But when does the L.A. Times go to the slammer for its crimes?

    They apologized for–and suppressed–the truth tracked down by Chuck Philips about Tupac.  Fired Philips, then rewarded Henchman with a few hundred thousand dirty dollars.  All on the same day.

    Journalistic malpractice by the L.A. Times?  Guilty.
    Unfair employment practices?  Guilty.
    Contributing to the cover up of a murder?  Guilty.
    Betrayal of the principal of a free press–on which our democracy stands?  Guilty.

    The NYT stakes claim to “all the news that’s fit to print.”

    L.A Times, here’s a slogan for you:  “UNFIT TO PRINT THE NEWS!”

  • rep87

    Chickens coming home to roost for ol”Jimmy Henchman , as far as chuck i believe some of his story im sure he spice things up thats just the nature of the bizness , Tupac was set up and Jimmy hands are dirty and it may come out since jimmy back is against the wall

  • slumlord_vinny

    It aint about what it is but what it can be made to look like. The press is a MF. Jimmy Ace and Jack created several situations where your favorite artists can have careers, from the ground up. The got Jimmy set up as Public Enemy #1, when you get real money they will throw allot of unusual stuff your way.

    • Uncle Rush did the same, but no set up?

  • onhere

    Kinda interesting how nobody can see how strange it is that a Pulitzer Prize winner focused his career on this dude,but not the murders of Big or Pac..Greg before you set up a trial coverage,reveal you have been chums with the Great White Hope for years, early on..Writing an article WITH Chuck?Anybody wonder why this article is so West Coast/TUPAC heavy??Notice how he did the interviews in 92 and then 95?Well who would he owe his allegiance to?SUGE…He’s been behind Chuck the entire time..This is a Tupac memorial article..All of the sensationalizing CHUCK”S story to make it look like he was some crusader?Stand against the LAPD and find pacs killer than Geraldo..Its a fact Jimmy didn’t have anything to do with these two murders,yet your stalking him about a robbery?if Pac was a “thug”,then he handled it the best he could.As a rapper,dry snitchin on record..You Pac stans can’t read between the lines?This dude Chuck trying to present his “Black” card?Born near Hitsville,almost 60 yrs old?Your INTRO to our culture was through your Rolling Stones,and LA TIMES OPPORTUNITY!!to Interview Tupac who was a mainstream figure..Your influences are all 60 yrs old,why are you so preoccupied with Hip Hop?Are you doing articles on the Hip Hop Police,or who puts the Crack and Guns in the hood in the first place?No..You ride for Suge,for the Tupac exclusives.Maybe that sucka GREG is spooning you at night,thats why he gave his Great White Joke so much burn and did no fair journalism to question some of the obvious signs in this bullshit article.Putting Real dudes that Pac and ALL of these rappers mimic like Jack,Jimmy,and Tut on blast for what?It was the rappers that called on street help to substantiate their empty jackets..then they get mad when their inexperience reveals itself?Why would you think you can mouth of to real dudes in THEIR city,when you don’t even know a camo getup means it’s goin down?But remember,Pac never HAD A HOME..He went to Suge for protection,and then Suge got him up outta here..Now thats an even worse ending then Jimmy’s..

    • Point out what he lied about.

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

       “It was the rappers that called on street help to substantiate their
      empty jackets..then they get mad when their inexperience reveals itself?” <——- i was like no no no no until i hit this line …. #realshit 😉

  • thaGOD83

    responding to on here, its funny how suge is always to blame for pacs death, but he got hit with a stray and it almost got him outta here, yet puff walks around with no ties to bigg, when he had him riding around L.A., despite him NOT wanting to go, with BIG stickers all on the vehicle he was in, letting folks know he was in LA.  puff somehow made it throught the light, yet big didnt, and he got killed by a freakin handgun, that hit only his side, and no one else was hit, how they know big was in the front, and none i repeat none of his so called goons returned fire, or helped with a lead, bt puff is the hero, and suge is the devil, yet pac won his appeal, and no1 was getting him out, and suge did and kept him safe, for the time being, pac would have gotten killed in rikers..i see puff with no scars, blemishes, yet he is the hero, suge was so feared by so called jews/whites and he was 6’3 300 pounds, so he could have his ass whipped…suge is a genious, no other label has sold so many records with GREAT music that stood the time till this day..im not a suge maniac, but shit why does puff go without any blame, when he was at the scene also,makes no sense at all, people like i said forget suge was grazed.  suge was one of the best businessmen ever, that tried to but together a rap health care, and a black owned distribution that was ratted on by “your boy hov” and he has been blackballed everysince..what has puff done for any1, he seems more snake like than any1,now he rolls with ross, and compares him to BIG, thats as snake as it gets, you never heard suge co-signing a pac a like…i  respect your suge plight, but one question, what about puff

    • thaGOD83

      responding to on here, its funny how suge is always to blame for pacs death, but he got hit with a stray and it almost got him outta here, yet puff walks around with no ties to bigg, when he had him riding around L.A., despite him NOT wanting to go, with BIG stickers all on the vehicle he was in, letting folks know he was in LA.  puff somehow made it throught the light, yet big didnt, and he got killed by a freakin handgun, that hit only his side, and no one else was hit, how they know big was in the front, and none i repeat none of his so called goons returned fire, or helped with a lead, bt puff is the hero, and suge is the devil, yet pac won his appeal, and no1 was getting him out, and suge did and kept him safe, for the time being, pac would have gotten killed in rikers..i see puff with no scars, blemishes, yet he is the hero, suge was so feared by so called jews/whites and he was 6’3 300 pounds, so he couldnt have his ass whipped…suge is a genious, no other label has sold so many records with GREAT music that stood the time till this day..im not a suge maniac, but shit why does puff go without any blame, when he was at the scene also,makes no sense at all, people like i said forget suge was grazed.  suge was one of the best businessmen ever, that tried to but together a rap health care, and a black owned distribution that was ratted on by “your boy hov” and he has been blackballed everysince..what has puff done for any1, he seems more snake like than any1,now he rolls with ross, and compares him to BIG, thats as snake as it gets, you never heard suge co-signing a pac a like…i  respect your suge plight, but one question, what about puff

    • ” How you gonna scream ‘Pac back , while rolling with Puffy ” ….Suge

      Suge was grazed in head, but , more important , settled Pac’s mom’s lawsuit in what ? 90 Days? & gave her everything?

      He wasn’t gonna fight his homies mom’s in court.
        Puff continued to exploit BIG after his death , but GOD works in mysterious ways , & BIG left no music……. 

  • thaGOD83

    people said pac was dry snitching, as i said myself in the past, but a blogger (i wish i knew his blog name to give credit) made a great point, Pac knew that puff was getting extorted “pufffy getting robbed like a bitch) and he knew they were afraid also, but he hoped that the friendship they had would have forced them to scream from the balcony, hey pac dont come up here, thats what true friends do, but they didnt and the shooting took place..pac still knew that jack, jimmy were no joke and he couldnt get them directly, so he went after their investment “bad boy” and he started to attack their franchise players, and it worked..pac still had respect in/for new york so he played that to a “t” , he signed with their biggest foe (whom had power/money) so the war could take place in hurting them from the bottom (big, puff) to the top (jack/jimmy) jimmy never recoverd after that shooting and that followed him until today, PAC was an icon, big was a legend, big difference…so any1 that hurt that ICON, or may have had something to do with his demise, will never be respected, and jimmy as a last resort tried to use to pac think to help him, but it didnt..i used to shake my head when folks use “against all oddS” but from a fan standpoint i feel them, because they felt pac, and pac, whether dead or alive, WON, with his strategy because he crushed them..and trust me puff aint happy either, dont let the mansions fool you, he is hurting inside prob more than SUGE, because he cant turn back, he and jimmy are one in the same, and if puff wasnt so media whorish, i meant a face that cant be exploited by his handlers, he would be blackballed or gone also…but i give credit to PAC, we is the winner in this instance in my book…fucc puff and chuck

    • Urban Flavorz

       I’m a tupac fan, but tupac sensationalized alot of things.  Lil Cease Had NO IDEA tupac was going to get robbed. He wouldnt have came down during the robbery. The reason why tupac was mad at them was the fact that while he was locked up they are still rolling with  the Jimmy and all them.  More or less scared.

      • Pac was mad because BIG , out of all them , should have put the brakes on $hyt! 
        ( Quad )

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  • jubileeshine

    Google chuck phillips waymond anderson.

    Chuck yo name is dirt in l.a. stop quoting charles mingus.

    • scullyson

      Jube whatup playa?  Whats Good In The Bay area? Miss them gems you use to drop in this piece…

      • jubileeshine

        Aye everything is everything. & you? Ya im here in south central l.a. as always. I was just on the bay tip cause they had moved the oscar grant killer cop trial to l.a.
        Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless

        —–Original message—–

      • scullyson

        Oh alite thats whatsup Jube, Its all good on this side of the map just staying busy as usual. no rest for the weary. Watching this Boston/Miami game hoping boston pull it out….

  • Urban Flavorz

    So chuck is blaming Henchman and his lawyer for not stopping him from posting the false info. SMH.  Who is Chuck going to blame for him writing Biggie was in Las Vegas the night of the murder and gave the crips the gun. I guess that is Ms Wallace fault for not telling him that was false before the story came out.

  • Urban Flavorz

    Does Chuck still beleive Biggie was in Las Vegas the night of the murders and gave the kilers the gun?

    • jubileeshine

      Phillips and the L.A. TIMES was official cover for LAPD &c. Phillips blew his gig when he tried to implicate sean combs in pacs quad shooting without corroboration.

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