F**K N.W.A. – “Why N.W.A Should NEVER Be In The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame”

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TRUTH Minista Paul Scott has never been once to mince words and he’s not on the topic of seminal group N.W.A. He’s got no love for them – straight up. In fact, he says the group should be put in “Hip-Hop’s Hall Of Shame.” TRUTH Minista Paul Scott blames NWA for many problems that are still facing the Black community almost 25 years after the release of NWA’s first album. He says that NWA replaced the conscious Hip Hop of the era with a culture of death and destruction. Scott is asking that fans of real Hip Hop contact the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and demand that NWA be removed from induction consideration.

See the video below.

For a decidedly alternative view, read: Ten Reasons N.W.A. Should Be Inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

  • Blaq_Boi

    I agree with dude. And although many of the gangster rappers claim they are merely relaying their lives over the mic, most of them encourage and in even dare people in their music. Talent and logic have been replaced by popularity long before the young money/G-Unit eras.

  • 1hiphophiphop

    I understand what he is saying but the stuff was going on before and was still going to happen after N.W.A.

    • Dave Williams

      true

  • Sean Power

    I want mark this as spam EAZY E wrote te blue print for jay-z and all other CEO rappers btw Eazy made to white house before jay-z too he was very large in make wish foundation and yes they rap about how there hood was but also up lift there hood too

    • Eazy was a gangster…in the truest sense.

      IE: Dr. Dre

  • disqus_wP9qaQP4Hv

    So NWA shed lights on whats already going on in the community, how do we fight the power when we are not honest about the drug dealings, about the killings etc i mean what the f..k is his argument. He’s able to see things one way but there’s always a B.side to every story and NWA was the first to shed light on the B.Side of things. Don’t y’all just hate when there’s no balance in arguments? Think about flip side to things before you go make a fool of yourself. Silence this fool

    • @Real_SirJamie

      Who DOESN’T know that the hood is filled with drugs and violence? Shed light on it? you sound CRAZY. For instance, If you are trying to drink spoiled milk, and I KNOW it’s spoiled, I should inform you it’s spoiled, and take it away. What good does it do to go around screaming “THE MILK IS SPOILED!!!” if it’s already stinking up the place? THEN ON TOP OF THAT, to go around SELLING the spoiled milk talking about… “I’m bringing awareness to it”. WTF???

  • Terrell Moses

    I don’t agree, your generation as a whole is to blame for the destruction in the hood. None of you old niggas fought for yourselves let alone us, so look at yourself and ask how did we let this happen to our community? Stop blaming others for the things that you failed to accomplish. #West

    • Picasso Micheaux

      Even if you think its just fiction, ask yourself, why did Jesus say “Forgive them…they know not what they do” DURING his crucifixion? Cuz he understood that you dont blame the deceived, you don’t convict the brainwashed…
      But that begs the question, Who is the deceiver?
      Don’t act like you don’t know…
      Don’t make the mistake of blaming your forefathers…there’s no spiritual profit in it…NWA was a group of kids and young adults…Paul never mentioned Jerry Heller..
      It seems like we’re too quick to let the real smooth criminals off the hook…
      People talk about crabs in a barrel, but they never mention who put them in the pot and turned up the heat…

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Don’t try to act as if Eazy, Dre, and Cube were oblivious to what they were doing. Remove the spaces and read that article from 1989, or google, “The Truth About NWA (all lower case letters). Eazy talks about how it’s just all about the money, not uplifting or teaching, or trying to help pull us OUT of the ghetto. :::EDIT::: Disqus won’t allow links, I’ve posted it 3 times. I have it on my facebook. It’s Rok the Royal.

    • Homegrown Chicks

      Nigga,….it was called Reganomics and the 80’s drug era! And THAT’S what “destroyed the hood”. And the attack on the black community/family was systematic and ongoing since the 20’s! You blame “old niggas”. When it was really big business, and government. They’ve been trying to destroy your black arses since day one! And when they can’t do that, they enjoy living off of your servitude.

    • @Real_SirJamie

      If none of those “Old n****z” fought then what was the Black Panthers? What about the civil rights movement? Or what the Militant Minded Movement is still doing today? The real question is WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

  • The Arsonist

    This dude is an idiot, N.W.A was conscious rap you idiot, theres a huge difference between Gangsta Rap and Gang Bang rap, N.W.A had records like Niggaz 4 Life and Express yourself that talked about the injustices in the community while Snoop and Death Row talked mainly about Gang Banging selling dope and being a gang member, on top of that how are you going the blame a group for replacing conscious rap lol.. They didn’t go to the radio stations and put a gun to the program directors head and say play only our music, you sound stupid. The destruction in the hood came from black fathers going to jail at three times the rate of white males, getting twice the sentence for the same crime, how many youtube videos is this clown making about that. It comes down to the chicken or the egg scenario, what came first the hood going down or N.W.A and for anyone with common sense they would know that N.W.A was regurgitating everything that was already happening, I remember when I first heard Dope Man as a kid, I was like WOW!!!, but in the same breath my big homies in the hood were selling dope robbing and killing. He should be making a video about how the Ronald Reagan administration helped the real RICK ROSS, put tons of crack on the streets of america. This is a crab in the barrel N*gga N.W.A was the messenger and he’s trying to shoot the messenger instead of the message.

    • @Real_SirJamie

      Both “Gangsta Rap” and “GangBang” rap are the SAME THING. Are you not aware that Eazy E was a Kelly Park Compton Crip? and perpetuated the SAME NEGATIVE stereotype that other gangs did in his music?

      • The Arsonist

        Bro Im from Compton I know where Eazy is from my brother worked for Eazy and Ruthless all the way up to the day Eazy died, Ive also engineered sessions for Ruthless artists like Above the Law, worked at Audio Achievements studios in Torrance,Ca where N.W.A began, EAZY Never mentioned his Crip affiliations on a N.W.A record. He didn’t really let that cat out of the bag until the 187’um album which was a response to the death row disses. Find me a N.W.A record that spoke about them being gang members.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        If you’re from Compton as you say, (Like me being from Oakland) then you know what gangmembers do. And EVERYTHING THEY DO is what N.W.A. rapped about. All that other stuff you stated I’m not impressed with, nor do I care about your brothers affiliations or how you engineered for them. All that means is that you helped further the cycle. With all due respect sir.

      • The Arsonist

        Im really not here to Impress you. The fact of the matter is you and many like you fail to address the real problems in the black community but rather place blame on those who are symptom of the community that they came from, Instead of consistently trying to put a fire out after the blaze has been started your focus should be to prevent the blaze in the first place so I will reiterate my stance, this dude has no idea what he’s talking about, there was gangs drugs and crime in the hood way before N.W.A every set foot in a studio, how many times have you voted to repeal mandatory sentences? How many anti gang rallies and protests have you been a part of what difference are you making brotha? Pointing fingers and laying blame is lame.I don’t know one single gangsta that started banging because of N.W.A I don’t know not one single Crip or Blood who said N.W.A influenced them to be a crip or blood I don’t know one single Drug Dealer that claimed N.W.A is the reason they sold dope. But I do know many Gang Members and Dope boys who’s sold dope and banged because of the environment they live in so to blame N.W.A is a huge and ridiculous idiotic cop out. Turn your energy to real black community issues. If you haven’t made a youtube video discussing the true issues of the community then you’re poverty pimping just like the rappers using a popular platform to gain you’re own prestige.

      • Dubz

        “Instead of consistently trying to put a fire out after the blaze has
        been started your focus should be to prevent the blaze in the first
        place”

        Real statement right here…Challenge the people next to you….to not allow this stuff to happen.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        That’s what we’re doing. These entertainers aren’t above us. It’s the fans that celebrate and king these guys making them feel holier than thou. I challenge the FANS to get better quality music and the artists to MAKE music with some integrity.

        nowarningshotsfireddotcom

      • Dubz

        I respect the movement!!!

      • @Real_SirJamie

        You obviously don’t know about the Militant Minded Movement, our Podcasts, Or Truth Minista being on CNN. Or him Chasing Malt Liquor trucks out of the hood. (Which is all on video and radio). It’s easy to say we haven’t done anything when you aren’t searching. I along with brothers like Yasin 360 wiseguy, Jasari X, (who was JUST in my city at a drug rally) uplift through music and MANY OTHER AVENUES. Giving out free literature that most schools would charge for. No drug dealer is going to tell you that T.I. or Gucci Mane, Or freddie gibs, or Young Jeezy is the reason they are killing and robbing and drug dealing, But what do you think they’re listening to in their cars or “in the trap” while they are concocting that poison? They aren’t bumping Lord Jamar while doing drive bys. I don’t mean to attack you by saying What are YOU doing to help our youth and people, we’re looking for soldiers to help fight this nonsense. Are you a part of the solution? Or are you just trying to argue for the sake of argument? Because my time can be spent trying to educate someone who’s actually LOOKING for a way out.

      • Wan Corlione

        Dude, shut the hell up!!!!!!!

      • E B

        If you open the can of “But what do you think they’re listening to in their cars….” So what were the brothers listening to before NWA? Because the killings and drug dealings were going on long before NWA. So if they were listening to Afrika Bambaataa Grand Master Flash and all of the pro-black conscious rappers are they too to blame?

  • Jayson C Williams

    Everyone’s right with their arguments but ppl are responsible for tier actions. You can’t place blame on the art because ppl can’t separate tv & reality… Fact is we have no voice because higher ups fear that tremendously. So they’ll find a way to push our product but only to spoil it in its essence. My opinion

  • Godson

    NWA spoke the truth to what was or is still going on in the hoods. But I also agree that they glamorized gangsta music and feeding to the minds of our youth, who then wanted to become gangsta. Music & T.V. can pollute peoples minds just like drugs you inject or take can be toxic to the body. That’s were parents need to play their roll. By teaching their kids not to listen to or watch garbage. At this point why try to prevent them from being nominated for the Rock N Roll hall of fame, damage has been done.

  • stop blaming music,thats like saying chief keef is the reason why Chicago is riddled with violence

    • @Real_SirJamie

      He isn’t the reason, But he’s keeping it alive and well by perpetuating the negative stereotype. Even with all the nonsense he does, NO ONE can say Kanye, or even Common (Who has called for rapper like Keef to do positive things, with NO ANSWER) has contributed to the violence that has stricken Chicago.

      • poverty,weak school systems,corrupt politicians cops & government and bad parenting is keeping all this nonsense alive..music no,music artist and their antics,no..music is powerful but its not that powerful to where it can effect peoples everyday life..

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Children want to be more like Rappers than they do teachers, politicians, and police officers you can’t deny that. . And what does the music teach? Violence. So YES. The music is a MAJOR part of the problem.

      • there’s no valid proof in that,but if that was true,that’s not a rappers fault,instead of using all that energy to bash rappers,use it on bad parenting and poor school systems,because that’s more important than anything.music doesn’t teach violence,the streets do..before hiphop there was always violence and lost kids in the “black community”…9 times out of 10 a violent ignorant kid had a terrible upbringing…

      • @Real_SirJamie

        The damage is systematic. You are quick to disprove the point that music has a valid and detrimental effect on ones psyche. Rappers make it cool to rob steal and kill. The devil of course introduced it, but rappers make it acceptable, fashionable, and there’s more rappers in the world making it cool, along with people like you who just want to argue invalid points, instead of getting out there and showing them a more POSITIVE influence.

  • @Real_SirJamie

    This is Rok The Royal Minister Of Defense of the Militant Minded Movement. I will be dropping the Moniker “Look At Me King”. While you are on here attacking Truth Min. for SPREADING THE TRUTH. Attack these RAPPERS for glorifying the MIND STATE that leaves our children and neighborhood riddled with bullets and drugs.

    • Preach Minister!

    • Dubz

      Naw, I’m not attacking “Rappers”…I’m attacking dead beat dads…and rachet a** mommas…You want to make a change for the future you look at the next generation that’s up. Challenge your peers sitting next to you…encourage them to challenge the peers next to them…Preach personal responsibility….while also teaching them that its ok to share knowledge…Tell your kids or nephew or niece that they are worth something…I respect the movement tho.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Each One Teach One brother. The respect is Mutual.

    • Damn I remember you Rok…woulda never guessed you was Look At Me King, that’s ill. Respect fam.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Yes Sir. You were always another one with straight forward, and unforgiving truth. Respect to you as well.

    • Immortal

      Man I don’t know whether to say congrats on the new name or not. Now that I know who you were, I was used to that guy. But we all evolve and our priorities change so if this is where you want to go, and who you want to be, then do the damn thing and don’t quit. As far as debating opinions, hope that much stays the same. Much respect man……now give me that damn Loaded Lux av lol

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Haha I’ve always been Rok. I just chose “Look At Me King” as a moniker. Seemed appropriate for debating and building. His whole approach to that Calicoe battle was admirable and inspiring.

  • jubileeshine

    the rock and roll hall of fame has moral standards huh

    & denzel gotta give up the oscar too then..

    This one goes out to the four brothers from Compton.
    You’re almost there, but the FBI has a little message for you:
    “Nowhere to run to, baby. Nowhere to hide.”
    Good luck brothers.
    — 100 Miles And Runnin’

    • @Real_SirJamie

      Rapping cannot be compared to acting. Acting is playing a ROLE. A CHARACTER. These rappers (Especially Eazy E, Just read the L.A. times interview where he was proclaiming to be so “real” and how he had actually seen and done the things he rapped about) claim to be the exact opposite. Authentic and genuine and NOT perpetrating a fraud or playing a role. And they weren’t on the FBI list for being outstanding citizens or being pro black either.

      • jubileeshine

        so eazy lacks the moral character to enter the rock and roll hall of fame in the 2014 class of fellow nominees:

        Nirvana,
        Chic,
        KISS,
        Hall and Oates,
        the Replacements,
        the Meters,
        Linda Ronstadt,
        the Paul Butterfield Blues Band,
        Deep Purple,
        Peter Gabriel,
        LL Cool J,
        Cat Stevens,
        Link Wray,
        Yes,
        the Zombies.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Most of those are white rock bands. We’re talking about N.W.A. sir. Not Kurt Kobain. If you’re point is that not just N.W.A. is to blame then yes you’re correct. But THIS POST is about N.W.A. and it’s affect on the BLACK community. Black Drug dealers aren’t bumpin “Smells Like Teen Spirit” or “I can’t Go For That (No Can Do) by Hall & Oates. You think gangmembers are singing “I wanna Rock and Roll All nite” by KISS? No.

      • jubileeshine

        this post is about soliciting people to contact the rock and roll hall of fame to have a nominee removed as lacking moral character.
        not the militant minded movement hall of fame.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        It’s more than “moral character”. And the M.M.M. is spreading AWARENESS and opening eyes. You are acting as a deterrent. Please stop. If you don’t agree then why continue to badger?

      • jubileeshine

        Mmm guidelines don’t apply In a rock and roll hof Iinduction.

      • DJ7

        This guy is an agent…Edogz called him out on it multiple times in the past…he used to be the copy/paste king on AHH…without that method he is just a tool who tries to appear non bias and self righteous b.u.t. to those of us that have been around the block know better and dismiss this fraud for who/what he really is

      • @Real_SirJamie

        I remember him from the old board DJ. I think he was the one who kept telling Edogz “Word is Born”. LOL

    • @Real_SirJamie

      And just because the FBI has a file on you doesn’t mean you’re so “Pro Black” they wanna ban you. It just means you’re a THREAT. For instance, The FBI’s 93-page file on ODB, revealed in a Freedom of Information request, connects the rapper with a litany of serious crimes in the late 80s and 90s. But if the FBI had so much on Ol’ Dirty Bastard, why wasn’t he taken down? Simple: he was reinforcing a status quo that our CIA was totally cool with.

      • jubileeshine

        that not what dirty say!

        youtube[DOT]com/watch?v=rawki5sf_jw

      • @Real_SirJamie

        What are you talking about? I’ve seen this video before. He said himself that they were watching him all throughout that video. So what are you trying to disprove of what I said? This video PROVED my point sir.

      • onehunglo

        somebody should explain to him how professor griff’s statement (which was 100% factual by any account) ended PE.the label deliberately pushed the other acts on the label while spending very little time with PE,and barely marketed their next album THEN discounted it early,also did not set up events and interviews where they could plug their new album. CHUCK D stated all this

  • @Real_SirJamie

    If y’all haven’t figured out that it is the PLAN AND MAIN OBJECTIVE of people like Jerry Heller, and Jimmy Iovine to keep a negative stereotype of BLACK MUSIC then KEEP DRINKING THE KOOL AIDE, but don’t get mad when brothers like Truth Minista come along and SMACK THE GLASS from your mouth, leaving you with a confused look and RED ON YOUR SHIRT. Better RED on your shirt then BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS. People like Eazy E wanted the MONEY NOTHING ELSE. Listen to KRS-ONE and De La Soul, and Queen Latifah. X-Clan, Brand Nubian, There’s so much more to our neighborhoods than violence. what about the mothers who are trying to get OUT of the hood? Where’s the uplifting songs like 2Pacs “Changes”, “Hold On (Be Strong)”, “Keep your head up”? “Baby Don’t Cry (Keep your head up 2)” ?

    • Dubz

      But if you kill the root, the plant won’t grow…that is the mindset some of us have….Rappers are not the root of the problem.

      • onehunglo

        research media’s impact on popular culture,and you’ll understand WHY promoting a CB4 over the top violent representation of youn black men is so harmful to the culture as a whole.

    • Bodie

      You kinda look like KRS ONE..

      If he did Coke

      • @Real_SirJamie

        I hope you’re a female judging a male on his looks. If not I’m married sir and care nothing for your indirect advances.

      • Bodie

        just a roast, calm down

    • Immortal

      You have a point, BUT we allow what was started to continue. We allow these “industry” rappers to get paid, live their dreams, and get out of the hood, where some of us are still there in it. We need to wake up and smell the coffee. Ross, Jeezy, TI, these are just examples. I’m not singling out southern rappers versus any other, but these guys are all fake, we know they are fake, but they’re loved for some reason. Everyone speaks good of Common. Where are his album sales? And it doesn’t help that middle to upper America likes rap now either. To them it’s a joke; a place where you go to get high, but you leave as soon as you get your sh*t. When someone comes out denouncing the current state of rap, they’re instant haters, or you’re not getting the message. What message are you talking about? Trinidad James, Soulja Boy, Chief Keef, none of their songs really make any sense, but for some reason they sell. Ortiz tells it like it is, has a solid Hip Hop resume, but is solid Tupperware in sales. Until there is a shift in the music the problems will still be there. And the Jew thing? That’s BS because Diddy has done in how many artists, how many groups over his time? LOX anyone? We’re our own greatest enemy, and our own greatest friend. We as a people need to go out and “get it”. Go out and find that indie rapper that is more than the cookie cutter trap star, but is actually a true fact star. More Mos Def and Nas than Rosay and Snoop

      • R U Serious

        I can appreciate the thought…but the OU symbol is making me def!!!! to you words…

  • Mel

    Nigga please Eazy E and NWA of life

  • Mel

    Eazy showed rappers how to own their own and get paid while Def Jam was raping the east coast. It’s always a black that speaks out about our successful blacks. Get yo money up minister. How many white people have you heard of trying to stop a white group from getting into the rock hall of fame. Nigga is straight dumb. Look at all the so call conscience rappers that you named all of them have either sold out or they are no longer relevant. Queen Lateefa got a weave now Flavor Flav is a white girl loving crackhead X clan gone. Need I saw more if it don’t make dolla it don’t make sense. Wise up…….Even Al Sharpton and Mister Louis F have learned to shut up and get paid and own somethings because as Eazy E taught us Hip Hop artist money is power.

    • @Real_SirJamie

      Go to BreakdownFM dot com. and look for the “Still Ruthless” interview with Jerry Heller. THEN say Eazy was “Getting Money”. He was pretty much IN DEBT to Heller but if you don’t understand publishing and royalties you’d think otherwise. Disqus won’t allow posting of links or I’d post it. Everything else you said is either speculation, plain false, or just absurd. Who a person falls in love with has nothing to do with their character Sir or ma’am. Be more concerned with helping the situation than dissing people who you have no idea what they’ve done to help.

    • Flavor Flav was never a conscious rapper. His role was solely to soften the image of what P.E. was bringing. Dude kinda BEEN a puppet. And LATIFAH’s weave shouldn’t have anything to do with her MESSAGE

    • onehunglo

      EASY E WAS BEHOLDEN TO LYOR COHEN (A JEW) easy e died with a home mortgage and 97,000 in the bank. lyor cohen made 34 million off nwa as he brags in his book

      • R U Serious

        Dude… EZ worked with Jerry Heller not Lyon Cohen… get your facts “straight out of Compton.”…. son!!!!@

      • onehunglo

        Indeed,your right I mixed the 2 jews up,lyor cohen was the one who left rakim,epmd,stastasonoic,and a tribe called quest broke.

      • R U Serious

        My brother being a black man; I indeed understand. However, I understand why you say what you have said in regards to the rap groups labeled as they are, but anytime we can compliment the brothers…lets give them something for breaking through what has been a hard, difficult wall…..music or life…Respect due to you and PEACE!

      • onehunglo

        They deserve neither praise nor scorn, they themselves never understood the harm their manurfactured personas and music caused,they were simply 4 youngsters from an impoverished backround and little education who were offered a way to make millions. JERRY HELLER IS THE ISSUE

      • onehunglo

        If in life you accept the status quo,that’s all you;ll ever have

    • @Real_SirJamie

      You really are uninformed about music. Tipper Gore didn’t want ANY ROCK MUSIC on the shelves PERIOD. But they linked up with artists like Ice T and made sure that murdering garbage got put out.

  • Mel

    Which is worse a broke person with character or an ignorant billionaire. Ask that ever so wise homeless person you pass every day on the way to work Rok The Royal

  • Mel

    Eazy left a legacy of hip hop artist. Without Eazy there would be no Dr. Dre no Em. no Detroit rap scene. No Ice cube no Mike Epps no Chris Tucker No Game No snoop No Suge Knight. No Bone thugs.. No Biggie No bad boy record no Roca fellano Jay Z no East coast rappers that curse on wax. No Black independent labels. List goes on and on Eazy E started this gangster shit and this is the thanks he gets Love or Hate it.

    • @Real_SirJamie

      You obviously know nothing about music to insinuate that there would be no Detroit rap scene without Eazy E. No Mike Epps or Chris Tucker? I can tell you think Ice Cube gave them exposure. Chris Tucker and Mike Epps were comedians separate from the hip hop scene. No Black independent labels? Ruthless wasn’t independent OR black owned. You’re reaching too far. Actually do some research on a subject before you speak. Then again, this is “The Internet, Where you can be whoever you want”.

    • onehunglo

      Absolutely baseless assertions,

  • Mel

    No 50 cent no G unit and so on and so on

  • Brindle

    consious hiphop came along after NWA was already on top. get your facts straight FALSE Profit Paul Scott. good excuse to get something published…

    • @Real_SirJamie

      NWA released their debut album in 1988. Afrocentric or “conscious” rap made its debut 2 to 3 years earlier or around the same time with groups like Brand Nubian, X-Clan, Queen Latifah, De La Soul and more. Hell P.E. was doing it in 1982 even before I was born. Does anyone do research before they discredit others? Or does it just look so good when they type it they don’t care if it’s wrong?

      • Brindle

        1st of all, YA MOMMA… 2nd, I don’t care what google told you, half the groups you named where after NWA… during NWA, you had Eric B, P.E… where you get X-clan, latifah, etc…. Xclan was early 90’s… and if you was on the “debut album in 1988” you was late. NWA was on 1580KDAY long before the “debut album”… Uncle James Festival in Los Angeles is older than everyone you named and NWA was performing at that before we knew that had individual names… and 3rd of all, YA MOMMA… I know more than your google…

      • Brindle

        you research, I’ll remember

      • @Real_SirJamie

        I don’t need google sir, I OWN these albums.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        And the N.W.A. YOU speak of wasn’t popular. When people speak of NWA they don’t mean those early members like “Arabian Prince”. Of course they were known in LA WHERE THEY STARTED. They DIDN’T GET POPULAR until they signed REN in 88 and released THEIR DEBUT ALBUM. I was in Oakland at the time. Queen Latifah “All Hail the Queen” was released in 1989 on Tommy Boy records. NOT THE 90’s. I could say the same thing about you. “If you heard them in the 90’s you were late”. But my aim isn’t to impress immature people with “Yo momma” Jokes. It’s to spread the truth. Not bend it with meaningless trivial timelines.

      • Immortal

        Bruh man don’t forget Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five with “The Message” rap about the goings on in the hood, no killing involved, Also Afrika Bambadda and the Zulu Nation. So there was conscious rap well into the early 80’s. You are right.

      • Brindle

        every form of music has always existed but as for as the movement, it didn’t start til late 80’s

  • @Real_SirJamie

    In March 1991, ‘The Godfather of Gangsta Rap’ – rapper Eazy-E – accepted an invitation to the White House for a luncheon benefiting the Republican Senatorial Inner Circle, hosted by President George H. W. Bush. Though Easy-E announced he wasn’t a republican, the rapper was reported to back Bush for overseeing Operation Desert Storm – and the Godfather of Gangsta Rap made a $15,000 political donation “for a million dollars worth of press”.

  • wickedjones

    There always has to be a balance, i love NWA just as much as I love Public Enemy. I respectively disagree with what he is saying. And there’s not one way to do anything.

    • onehunglo

      It’s not a simple question of “do you like both their music styles” One caused a great deal of harm,it’s just impossible to quantify.

      • wickedjones

        truth be told. I didn’t know LA had crooked cops until I heard NWA. Also, express yourself was not a bad record at all.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        1. On other comments you claim to be an “Old Head”. But yet you didn’t know there were such a thing as crooked cops?

        2. How didn’t knowing this HELP you?

      • wickedjones

        Well for one thing youngblood, i never been on the west coast so i thought it was all hollywood. including the black folks. And 2nd, The delivery was different but the goal was the same. wats the difference between PE’s Night of the living base heads. and NWA’s dopeman.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        I knew there were crooked cops by the age of 11. So I guess AGE doesn’t equal MATURITY or LIFE EXPERIENCE. And if you don’t know the difference between “Dopeman” and “Night Of The Living Baseheads”… Let ALONE Public Enemy and NWA. That’s…. most unfortunate. But I’ll tell you simple and straight to the point. If you don’t understand hip hop or lyrics (Or you just want to argue like so many on this board) then it will show in your response. SIMPLE AND PLAIN, Public Enemy and the song “Night Of The Living Baseheads is Education, and a warning. Remember the video? NWA (as a WHOLE) and the songs “Dopeman” (remember there are 3 versions) is EXPLOITATION and GLORIFICATION sir.

  • @Real_SirJamie

    Listen, The stupid/rebellious side of me likes N.W.A. But I like Ice Cube, and Tupac, and Brand Nubian, and Public Enemy more. Notice in Pac’s violent music he specified his ADVERSARIES, ENEMIES, b***h a** n****z, and so forth. He never talked about murdering random blacks. N.W.A. literally rapped about pulling up along side random blacks SPECIFICALLY and robbing and murdering them. (See songs “Always Into Somethin” and “Appetite For Destruction”)

    • onehunglo

      Exactly.

  • mayne u hatin ass nihhuh mayne NWA is legends mayne dnt hate mayne

  • mayne shit remind me of dat good southern pork Cajun barbeque my baby momma make shit finga lickin good mayne I swea dats the best pork on da west of da missisippi mayne, u kno watt I mean

  • onehunglo

    NWA WAS THE REAL LIFE CB4. REMEMBER EASY TELLING HOWARD STERN HE KILLED”LIKE SEVEN PEOPLE” AND THE SOURCE MAGAZINE “I WATCHED A WOMAN GET TORTURED AND KILLED” all that silly stuff fans actually believed, TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THAT PICTURE AND TELL ME YOU DON’T SEE A BUNCH OF KIDS TRYING TOO HARD TO LOOK TOUGH. LYOR COHEN PUT THIS GROUP TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH THE “GANG MEMBER PERSONA” FOR THEM,he wrote in his book, (which no black person read)he describes setting up publicity stunts for mtv shoots ect…..basically he was bragging about how he sold them to the rap fans as “real,dangerous,authentic,gangstas” ANOTHER GIFT FROM A JEW TO THE KIDS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY “GANGSTA RAP”

    • EVOLONE

      @disqus_GGXYlNWqFV:disqus You can say a lot of things about NWA but seriously you said “LYOR COHEN PUT THIS GROUP TOGETHER AND CAME UP WITH THE “GANG MEMBER PERSONA” Negro, when Boyz N the Hood dropped they were not even signed to a major so at what point did Lyor Cohen put the group together? I understand the point you are attempting to make, but none of it is factual rather you said it or Liar Cohen wrote it.

      • onehunglo

        I am familiar with the song but never heard it when it was out(I am in NY)what Lyor cohen DID DO it bring NWA to national audience all the while cultivating an perfecting a “these guys are real killer gang members” manurfactured image.what if I PUT TOGETHER 4 YOUNG WHITE SINGERS then manurfactured an false persona for them as dangerous,racist,killers,and had them wear kkk robes and hoods on stage and video? then spoke of their music which would glorify beating and killing niggers and white power as “reality” and “they just describe what it’s like to be young and white in America” Do you think that white people would let such a vile depiction of their young men be pushed onto a national audience? Well that’s what that jew did to the image of young black men at that time.

      • R U Serious

        You should have heard it (The Song) when it came out ! Then, and only then, maybe you would be able to speak on it!!! To speak on it now is too late! When things happen, they happen for a reason…not by happenstance!

      • onehunglo

        WOW……. you are a imbecile.

      • R U Serious

        Game recognize game!! Dude you don’t even have your facts straight…who’s the imbecile…check your facts then call names….

      • onehunglo

        explain “game recognizes game” because I don’t think that phrase means what you think it means,

    • SBRon

      Yeah, I feel you!! They should’ve called themselves, N.W.I.A. Niggaz With (Indifferent) Attitudes because they were more than willing to glorify black on black destruction!! Meanwhile, the white/Jew owned labels stopped promoting and/or signing the PEs & PRTs in the game, slowly “killin off” the Conscious movement…WICKED!! Let’s see, promote the themes of knowledge of self & revolution (Pro-black Activism), OR…let the “geri-curl activists” tout murder & mayhem?!?

      And someone on here actually seemed proud Eazy was the 1st to be invited to the WH?!? It was a thank you for aiding in his own people’s demise!! They had already dropped train loads of AK-47s & coke in the hood, now the pawns to glamorize the impending genocide was the icing on the cake!!

      • onehunglo

        Bringing ease-e to the white house was like a minstrel show for the white viewers who saw his white house appearance in the print and news media,all it did was reinforce in white peoples minds what the”dangerous,inner city young black man” appeared like in person.Imagine if the wh invited members of the Gambino family to the white house,or an Italian with a dancing monkey and a organ grinder,or the wh invited a Chinese guy wearing a black and white kung foo outfit and a coolie hat, THEY WOULD SCREAM BLOODY HELL! AND ACCUSE THE WHITE HOUSE OF PUTTING FORTH A NEGATIVE IMAGE OF THEIR RACE,AS REPRESENATIVE OF THE REST

    • R U Serious

      Your argument that the two, Malcolm and NWA, don’t have correlations is laughable! AS A Matter of fact for you not to understand what it takes to get a reaction out of someone is laughable…I got a response from you and you responded as did society with NWA. There are no clear way to make people react! As you can see…and for you not to appreciate and understand why these brothers choose the road they took proves our people hate what they don’t understand…You can call it what you want but reality is just that. These brothers did not invent black on black crime. Their views were and continue to be a present in the changing of American history’s reality. Laughable is your denial of the contribution of NWA to music and American History. Let us not forget it was, remember, Public Enemy’s and their production crew ,who jumped on board and backed ICE CUBE!!!! However, New York environment was different that Los Angeles. NWA and PE knew Americans needed to hear an more vocal point of view !!!!!
      Even the record label sand the executives did not understand the beast they helped birth!!
      X Clan, NWA, ICE CUBE, ICE T, P.E., Paris, Tupac, Geto Boys, Common, Run DMC, all broke chains!

  • R U Serious

    It is hard to believe you fixed your mouth to accused NWA of the detriment American Society has placed on MY PEOPLE !!! You should be a shame!!!

    The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a fake!!! The Name of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is Bull Shit and stolen from the true rockers…they place more of them into the “Hall Of Fame, ” than they do the individuals who created The Rock and Roll and people, want to fault groups like NWA who helped shine a light on the brutality and injustice in the faces in the system and those who govern the system!!!

    What??!!!

    You would rather the mayor’s, governors, prison system and police had continued to beat, rape, vandalize and brutalize our communities. People did not like what Malcolm had to say either in the 60’s.

    It took those Malcolm’s and NWA’s to speak up and not be afraid! Some officials continue, even today, to place brothers like this in prison without a cause!

    Man, please…. think about what those brothers stood for when people wanted blacks to keep smiling and dancing. If you hear anger in my voice you should; the same way the people heard anger in the voice of NWA!!!!

    All I can say is read between the lines. Violence????!!! Even God has warriors!!!!
    No shots fired?? Wow, dude take off the hat…you fired a lot of shots…
    It’s not their fault our people took it as a license to kill….that is why we riot in our own communities….my brother, I have to ask

    R U Serious!!!???

    • onehunglo

      comparing MALCOLM X to this CB4 group is laughable, Malcolm x was teaching blacks to act as a collective(use their numbers) to demand social justice,80% of what Malcolm x taught was ECONOMICS and the power of media and a social system that keeps blacks without hope and acting as sheep in day to day life.but you wouldn’t know that because you never read his works,all you know is he was a agitator,and anti police because that’s what the media played up

      • SBRon

        Word is born! Blasphemy!!!

    • Immortal

      R U Serious? You talk a good game about who is fake but I don’t see nor hear about you picketing or even making a statement about the current state of Hip Hop. You have our “own” people continuing the cycle of recidivism, and glorifying it through their songs. You mentioned “You would rather the mayor’s, governors, prison system and police had continued to beat, rape, vandalize and brutalize our communities..” you fail to mention the sheer numbers of hate crimes we do to ourselves through genocide in regards to selling drugs. That’s not the white mans problem, that’s OUR problem. As far as the cops and everyone “raping” us; that’s rather dramatic. You should get an Oscar for that one. When we stop chasing the dollar at any expense that would hurt our own then there will be something to talk about. When we have more blacks in academia, science, investing, land owners, businessmen, doctors and lawyers that are not associated with the criminal justice system, then there will be something to talk about. While we make our women so insecure that they have to go to extremes like fake asses and breasts to impress us, we have failed our own. There needs to be a talk about that. And Violence? What good is that going to do? destroy what’s left in the communities and claim it was because we were upset? GTFOH with that. You want some real violence? Get kids in school. Get good teachers for them. Have parents that don’t see them as mistakes or more money for food stamps but as the blessings they are and the future Kings and Queens they are destined to be. Take the sports away from them as the “only” way out. Violence? Have that child or young man beat the hell out of that schoolbook and get accepted to an Ivy League school based on his mental rather than his physical. Violence of the mind, not action from the body in a negative and unproductive way is the answer. Maybe you’re the “sheep” everyone talks about that really can’t see through your haze of hate.

  • Eli Pinilla

    I gotta respectfully disagree with you. I think, not only was nwa a group of its time, it was a group that was needed. Weather they lived what they rapped about is irrelevant in hind sight. They spoke for a people that felt and went through exactly what they were speaking on. Schooly d and ice t had already took it the gangsta rout. And criminal minded even came out before straight outta compton. The consciousness still existed and thrived more after nwa than before. De la dropped their first album after nwa. So nwa didnt really affect them at all. They managed to be successful in spite of nwa being so big., x clan, jungle brothers, a tribe, latifah all did their best in the late 80’s and early 90’s. If you speak on musical legacy, not only was the music great, but it spawned more successful careers than any other group. Bone thugz, cube, easy, dre, eminem, snoop, dogg pound, game, west side connection and many others are a direct tangible result of what nwa brought. Its not like they were lieing and glorifying thug life. Police was really whoopin dudes asses and muthaf*ckas was really dien like that. If nwa cant be in the hall of fame, then neither can bdp, grap, eric b rakim, slick rick, pac, or any other artist to speak on any negativity in the hood…..

    • Immortal

      I feel ya on this, but NWA did glorify the violence in the hood along with telling the story of what was actually going on it in. Straight outta Compton was nothing short of glorifying “the life”. The rest you listed should all have a chance at getting in because they talked about what was going on, rather than the harm they would do to you in it.

      • Eli Pinilla

        My thing is, weather its 3 or 4 songs or a whole album, talkin that street shit is talkin that street shit. Trust, ill never compare nwa from a message standpoint to bdp or pe for that matter. But if we’re speaking from a moral standpoint and a place of right and wrong and so and so steared people the wrong way, then that can be said of any artist who made songs of that matter.

      • LaurynHernandex

        Ice Cube should be in the Hall of Fame for his first three albums,but outside of Cube the others just wanted to be gangsta

      • R U Serious

        There is no Butts!! These brothers needed to speak and they did…violence was already happening to say they glorified anything; say they glorified, “stop beating my ass in an alley, in the middle of the night, in the hood, Mr. Police Man!!!!

        I see you put up the OU symbol, …simple question for you….How many black athletes have graduated in the last 20 years from the University of Oklahoma? Hardly any is the answer. Please don’t go there with NWA, until you stop representing the oppressors!!! Taking government money…financial aid; but the lowest number of black athletes graduating from a major university in the nation? Come on…?

      • Immortal

        Dude once you say there is no other opinion other than yours and the way you see things, then you’re no better than those you “claim” enslave us. As far as the athletic dept goes at OU or any other major NCAA school, that rate would be low, so that train of thought is moot. What have you done to make it better? You seem to be full of problems, but I haven’t heard you mention any solutions. I cannot make anyone graduate nor can I make them attend. I can show them there is a better way after a degree, but these kids aren’t kids. They are of free mind and body and can make decisions on their own; not have them forced down through a one sided opinion like you seem to have. The fact they are even trying is one step farther than many would take.

      • onehunglo

        the “Life” that NWA glorified is a imaginary life,A life where 4 gang members who have killed numerous people,pick up microphones and become the number one rap group in the country,all while still doing drive by murders(ya know like they TOLD us they do intheir raps) all the time,because THEY were REAL. how absurd

      • Immortal

        Well to a point you’re right, but although I’m not a superfan of his, MC Eight was well known in the streets before he picked up a mic, and I think his best was “Straight up Menace” because it told the story, but to me I felt that he was also telling you to stay away from this. That’s my opinion, it stinks and I can live with the funk. Boss was another that poled major holes in the whole “gangsta” lifestyle with her cd. Made it sound all hard, but allowed the truth about her upbringing to come out to make a point.

    • SBRon

      Your points are well taken! BUT…(no disrespect) myself and a few others on this subject are coming from an enlightened, Pro-Black perspective!! It’s undeniable that in order for the ultra-rich majority (who actually run this place) to remain in power, there can NEVER be a REAL, UNITED BLACK REVOLUTION! United with common goals to better ourselves economically, educationally, etc…

      Said movement is still possible, but the odds were better when the aforementioned groups were spreading their positive messages!! In that regard, (IMHO) N.W.A’s negatives outweigh the positives…I guess their biggest impact was the fact that after they “blew up” more so than any other “gangsta rappers” before or during, other groups and MCs felt they had to “crossover” not to Hip-Pop, but to gun pop!! It was either that, go/remain underground (i.e. KRS), or hang up the mic…

    • @Real_SirJamie

      Why do you and others keep bringing up that they “Spoke on it” or “brought awareness” to it? Who DOESN’T KNOW THE HOOD IS TRASHED??? Why do you think white people stay out of the hood unless it’s re gentrification time? Every single one of those groups you named that NWA so called “spawned” (Aside from MAYBE Bone) are all about murder, drugs, gangbanging, and degrading women. You really can’t put Pac in that bunch either. Most people don’t even understand what pac was about. They listen to his enemies and the media. What about Pac wanting a political party JUST FOR MINORITIES? I see you also try to elude to NWA was before a conscious movement. X-Clan was more than just music and their MOVEMENT was from 82 and on. Same with Afrika Bambatta and others. But NWA made it cool to wear all black, say nigga and shoot people. No they didn’t START it, But they reinforced it and made people think it was ok.

      • Eli Pinilla

        Because thats what they did. People didnt know compton was fucked up like that till they brought awareness. And nwa was a product of the environment that already existed. I can put pac in there cuz he spoke murder shit and street shit too so while you praise pac, he died doin the dumb shit your speaking against. Nwa was exactly that. A representation of the average black male livin that life at that time. Rodney king and the riots really happened. It had nothing to do with nwa’s success either. They shed a light on that…conscience hiphop existed before nwa, im not arguing that, but the progressive movement was more successful AFTER nwa than before it. De la, queen, the tribe, black sheep, brand nubian, jungle brothers all made a bigger impact after nwa than before it. That just cant be argued, its fact. So I guess if you want to say they poisoned the most minds, I guess you can. But weather you poison 1 million minds or 10, a poisoned mind is a poisoned mind and pac, biggie, bdp or anyone elses who has spoken that street shit is guilty of the same.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        By your logic theft is equal to murder, just because they’re both crimes. So should little Jimmy stealing snickers get lethal injection like Timothy McVeigh? Smh. “People didn’t know Compton was f****d up like that…” Where in North Dakota? Who NEEDS to know? I was in South L.A. at a VERY young age (6 or 7) and even I knew. You’re missing the whole point. People weren’t walking around in ceremonial garb like Afrika, they weren’t dressing like the furious 5, They didn’t wear flower print like De La, or A Tribe Called Quest, They wore black beenies (in 96 degree weather mind you) and black jeans. Raiders hats, and Dickies. Pendletons (AGAIN IN 99 DEGREE WEATHER) and Locs (sunglasses) because NWA made it cool. AGAIN THEY DIDN’T START IT. With all due respect engaging with you is proving futile. You contradict yourself a lot and seem to purposely neglect other valid points. If you’re just arguing to be arguing this is counter productive and is helping no one. What is your angle or stake in this? And whats with your “spreading awareness” comments? Why go around yelling “THE MILK IS SPOILED!!” If everyone has already smelled it? Then go SELLING the spoiled milk as if you’re “Bringing light to it”. “No one knew Compton was like that”. Come on seriously? There are census reports, crime rates, movies and other various avenues that report these things. My cousins in BATON ROUGE knew what Cali was like. So did people overseas at that time.

      • Eli Pinilla

        Your comparing apples to oranges….. So pac wasnt as successful as nwa?!?!? Didnt pacs beef lead to actual death?!?!?! How many people died in relation to nwa?!?!?! Who needed to know?!?!? Anybody that would listen. If you were there than you knew how serious it was and how fed up your community was about the abuse they went through. To the point that they rioted. …..So people werent walking around with african medallions on?!?!? So woman wasnt dressin like latifah?? So dudes wasnt gettin the xclan cut with dreads on top of the fade?!?!? This movement that you feel nwa overshadowed was successful at the exact same time. It takes a nation came out after nwa…..with all due respect, I wasn’t talkin to you to begin with. My opinion wasn’t addressed towards you. You aint have to respond to my comment that had nothin to do with you. And your the one on here with 30 comments like your fighting the good fight when your arguing over weather a rap group should be in the rock and roll hall of fame. You feel that strongly about the hall of fame?!?!? The “rock and roll” hall of fame!?!?? Does the opinion of mountain climbers with electric guitars mean so much to you that you feel nwa isnt worthy of their praise?!?! Nwa to dirty for their hall of fame?!? You want a better representation of your people?!?! Your like samuel jackson in django homie. Wanna tell the white man why these black guys over here shouldnt be allowed to sleep in the house.

      • onehunglo

        how about an r&b hall of fame, then maybe a hip hop hall 20 years after.Me i’m not looking forward to a rap hall of fame,watching the media cover it ,and it looking like “the players ball.

      • onehunglo

        pac couldn’t draw the line between fantasy and reality he BECAME his music, PAC didn’t look too gangster when he was doin the humpty dance,or goin to the school of the performing arts,lol

      • onehunglo

        Everyone should read the last three lines of your post.THAT is the issue they seem to be having trouble with understanding.

    • infinit221

      The problem that I have with this whole conversation is that it credits the NWA for popularizing gangsta rap…When in fact it was Ice T and Schoolly D that dropped street heat first (Hell, Colors is still one of the hardest tracks ever made to this day). And those dudes really lived it, While the movie CB4 was probably based off of NWA (those dudes were connected, but not gansters). The only people deserving of attention in this article are the consumers themselves, cause in a way we said we’re bored with the happy conscious stuff and we want the grit and grime of the streets which is reflected by record sales. We need to check ourselves, and push our artist to increase their subject matter. But it’s the people that made NWA popular, and that’s why you can’t blame them or ignore their accomplishments.

    • onehunglo

      the problem with nwa was the manurfactured image they sold to people,

  • R U Serious

    NWA in the Hall of Fame …..HELL YEAH !!!!

    Also, ICE CUBE should be in with the group and for checking the group !!!!

    @Brutus..and Minista Paul…. .don’t start none….. won’t be none!!!!

    Oh yeah…Shots fired Now!!!!

    • onehunglo

      One…your an imbecile Two… your manner is that of an adolecent

      • R U Serious

        Names calling “adolescent,” Woo, the education shows through. If your putting down brothers who achieved more than you; angers you…who’s adolescent??? Grow up and stop holding down your people and spreading poison to make yourself feel better. Like Minister Paul you pull the brothers back down, why don’t you!!! One word of positive from them and none from you. Crab mentality is worst than I thought.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Putting brothers back down? What about the platform he gives artists on his websites, videos and podcasts? What about Scotty Reid giving artists radio time on his shows when other outlets are worried about sales? I still don’t see what people like YOU are doing to help our people. These brothers are MOVING and HELPING. HELPING mothers, children, and grown men alike.

  • Brooklyn Stoop

    my issue with NWA was the fact that they was supposed to be the opposite of pubic enemy
    and that alone is telling

  • scottytreid

    When did gangsta rap become part of the Rock & Roll genre? They made one great song, “F**K The Police”, thats it. The rest was just COINTELPRO Propaganda getting negroes to bop their heads to a nice beat while shooting at each other, selling drugs and treating Queens like pieces of sh*t.

  • He makes a point.

    A valid point. And it is probably the truth seen from this point of view.

    We all celebrated NWA when they came out. All their music is still
    in my personal Top 20 Albums. I have this in my mind as a crazy
    time. I would describe it as Rock & Roll. A Kurt Cobain can be on
    Heroin and kill himself, so why black artists can’t do this.

    The downside.
    1. Excessive use of the N-Word. NWA used the word N1gga as
    much as it has been used on all earlier rap albums combined.
    2. Drug use and dealing became cool.
    3. Instead of striving for a better life, we resigned and became
    proud of being Ghetto.

    The conclusion.

    Those Jews who pulled the strings.
    Not just for NWA. Public Enemy were also casted by the same
    label bosses. With the intention of selling a very credible
    product. Those people are intelligent. More intelligent than we are.
    They have scientific analysis how black people react and a long
    term forecast on how the sales will go on.
    They know that black people are generally emotional people.
    Which can be manipulated easily. No matter if they sell you a
    KRS ONE posing like Malcolm X with a gun or NWA calling
    themselves Nigga. They know black people can’t distinguish
    between reality and a movie. So they just incorporated us into
    that movie.

    I love NWA for the energetic hardcore music. But they are not
    real. They never were. They were just like CB4 actually.

    It helped the powers to be to downgrade the value of a black
    person living in the western world. Before they could just show
    Africans as uncivilized. But racial profiling really changed
    during the crack era. A black person can go to any country
    in this world and nobody will value the persons intellect very
    high. They will think the black man might be good at sports.
    But running a corporation. Let whiteman handle it.
    they will show somebody like Jay-Z or Damon Dash on TV
    not to admire their work. Rather to laugh about how long
    this Media Zoo animal can still sell himself as a multimillionaire.

    Chuck D said it best. Don’t believe the hype…

    • onehunglo

      BRILLIANT.. These guys were marketed to the youth at that time so brilliantly that I remember a 15 year old kid at the time living in Far Rock actually believing these guys actually did drive by’s and believed easy when he said he killed about 7 people, that kid was ME.

  • Aaron Davis

    Who cares about the stupid Rock n Roll Hall of Fame anyway? We need a Hip-Hop hall of fame. Idk who’s great idea it was to put rappers in a rock n roll hall of fame as if rap & rock are the same thing. No rap group or artists should’ve ever been inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame from the beginning so this whole issue is irrelevant. How can u claim to be “conscious” & not see this?

  • onehunglo

    This thread seems to have attracted a lot of insightful intelligent people,

    • Immortal

      It should. Not everyone on AHH is some stupid ghetto cowboy. We have smart people too. Just gotta bring it out of em

  • R U Serious

    Again…NWA provoked thought and helped society and as whole critical thinking is the thing NWA inspired.

    For those who feel they did not please read all of my comments and notice the reaction from those I provoked just by saying NWA should be in the Hall Of Fame.

    To Brutus and Matt, thanks for proving me correct. Also, to AHH, thanks for the platform. This has been my first and last time responding on this site.

    Have a prosperous life and remember hating on others achievements only makes you look bad!!

    With one paragraph, I was able to provoke responses and anger over “words.” Til next time Respect others and they may respect your opinion as well!!!

    Out !

    • Immortal

      Good riddance. No one got mad over anything. You’re running away because your arguments and debating skills are as weak as your screen name.

      • onehunglo

        I’ts as if no one ever gave his ideas attention in his life,he certainly has never been in college,because if he had he wouldn’t be so giddy over the fact someone engaged him in a debate

    • onehunglo

      Yes you realized making statements and putting forth opinions contrary to intelligent people will compel them to educate you,congratulations. did you think you could only get our attention by taking absurd or contrary stances on the issues?

    • @Real_SirJamie

      Actually Truth Minista’s ARTICLE is what sparked this all. Horrible attempt to take credit though. Oh yea, while you’re gone… Explain how songs like “She Swallowed it” “Helped society”.

  • soyhiphop

    dudes an idiot n!ggas been killing each other before rap existed. before nwa we had avalons pirus rich rolling hoovers sur 13 out here in l.a. and in nyc thousands of crack related murders a year nwa made non sugar coated rap songs just like what the furious 5 and schooly d did as well boogie down productions did as well…quit trynna find a scape goat fool! he acting like n!ggas in 1983 wouldnt pull up to a muthafu%ka and blow their face off while bumping cool in the gang or the thriller album nwa did not start black on black crime n!ggas did drive bys listening to james brown quit it cuz

    • onehunglo

      PLEASE WATCH CB4

      • soyhiphop

        yea but cb4 they were posers not a threat homie….the same reasons a kid joined a gang in 1973 is still the same reason he will join one now i know gangs one on one most dudes come from f*ckedup homes

      • @Real_SirJamie

        They didn’t have gangs like that in the 70’s. I’m from Oakland.

      • soyhiphop

        ok and im from la them gangs been around

      • onehunglo

        CB4 was satirizing and lampooning the over the top gang killer persona and manurfactured image of NWA and los angeles in general, did you get that when you watched it? or did you think it was just a movie about a up and coming rap group

      • soyhiphop

        of course i knew that…but what does that have to do with my comment in the first place? im responding to his video.. and nwa had 3 real gs eazy and ren the rest were fake

      • onehunglo

        pretend you had to argue in a court of law, convince me they were “3 real g’s” and provide your evidence

      • @Real_SirJamie

        He won’t be able to. He has the typical street mentality. No morals and uncouth. “I don’t need proof cuz, it’s true because I SAID SO.”

      • onehunglo

        It’s almost as if their train of thought doesn’t allow them to,there’s no thought progression,that’s why marketing is so simple in America it’s almost childish,

      • onehunglo

        lol.poor old yella never could “sell” the image,

    • @Real_SirJamie

      You missed the whole point or are purposely misunderstanding just to be an internet bully. You’re probably a gang member with language and grammar like that taking up for your “homies”. If so aren’t you needed on the streets? What are you doing on allhiphop? Shouldn’t you be killing and raping? If not then actually listen to what he has to say. If you’re trolling you’re not needed.

      • onehunglo

        well said.

      • soyhiphop

        never trolling cuz

    • onehunglo

      I can tell you’ve never seen real violence up close, re read your post and try to figure out why those that are familiar with violence know immediately you are not.

  • arrdeesss

    So the self proclaimed “truth minista” is mad because fans preferred “gangsta rap” over “conscious rap” from a rapper who got into a physical altercation with PM Dawn pushing them off a stage, which most people would consider black on black crime, and a group whose member smokes crack, not to mention the flavor of love thing. Everything these cats rapping against, they doing it. How the fugging fug you “da truth minista” and only telling half the truth. You wasting your monkey azz time trying to stop it from happening anyway because you failed to tell yourself the truth, these crackers don’t care about you, your mammy or the damage it did to black communities. truth minista needs to check himself or change his name to coon minista, it’s a more fitting title. Soon as you monkeys quit thinking every rapper that makes music owes you something the better off everybody will be.

    • @Real_SirJamie

      Why so disrespectful? Can you articulate better than that? This music breeds your type of ignorance. (Notice I didn’t say stupidity, because not only can you be taught, but I think you’re perpetrating) KRS One pushed PM Dawn off stage because he’s WACK. We NEED some of these rappers THROWN off stage. And P.E. has done more good for us than NWA ever will. Disrespecting this mans name is childish, and calling him a “coon” is racist. Check yourself. P.E. performed at Stop The Violence rallies. Where was NWA? FURTHERING the violence.

      • arrdeesss

        Wack is a subjective term, and seeing as they’ve probably sold more music than he has some people would beg to differ. Not sure what you feel i’m perpetrating, but have it YOUR way. Ignorance is as ignorance does and it takes ignorance to know ignorance, and your comments are full of said ignorance. Your statements are just as contradicting as the lyrics KRS spat. Seems more like FANBOYISM on your part. Word of ADVICE to you sir, don’t believe everything someone says just because they claim to be a “minista”. Since I strongly feel that this clown’s mother didn’t name him “minista” I didn’t disrespect his name, I disrespected his made up persona he uses to boost himself above me. I OWE no RESPECT to an idiotic COON who attempts to tear down a group of his own people and RUIN the celebration of their craft based on his own AGENDA. Please don’t be one of THOSE morons who feels that music is anything more than ENTERTAINMENT. No one ever expected Wesley Snipes or Samuel L Jackson to uplift black people with positive roles in movies did they? How positive were Charles Barkley and Allen Iverson? CHECK yourself first, then you can try telling others to check themselves.

      • Troll_E_G

        Discussions like this may not be for you if feel music is just Entertainment

      • arrdeesss

        It is entertainment that’s why it’s sold not told. Wake up homiie.

      • onehunglo

        like the phrasing, sport.

      • arrdeesss

        Ok.

      • onehunglo

        It’s about raisng your standards…………moron

      • arrdeesss

        Better comments needed Dumb azzzzz. But thanks for playing.

      • onehunglo

        Hard to comment, it’s a post of idiocy.

      • arrdeesss

        Well next time keep your dumb azz mouth shut.

  • And the Award goes 2 those Nixxas with attitudes ! GTFOH
    If you were around when the nwa was pumping and didn’t catch a
    Charge , or see central cell block… take your puck azzes back to playing
    Candy Crush. everything “Truth Min & Rok” said is True…..u can only argue with the TRUTH.

    • Carlos

      I was around, never went to jail. Grew up in the hood, did the gang thing. From my experience most ppl end up in jail because they get careless. By careless i mean for example, they sell dope out the house they live in and hang out at smoking all day.

  • johnblacksad

    dayum…. what a thread! ninjas went in…

  • Troll_E_G

    The commercial success of NWA helped usher in the dysfunctional music of today….I.e keef,Gucci, and all those countless unsigned gangstas on WSHH….from a avg mind, u can’t see the effects but if u have knowledge of self then u know the detriment of certain acts and songs….its a difference with glorifying and giving pros n Cons of street life….But NWA should be in the hall of fame not from a black stand point nut because they were vital in the demise of the conscious black mind. ..fast foward today and its cool to kill your own n die young I.e chief keef image

  • onehunglo

    Anyone watch the Flavor Flav minstral show when it was on?

  • $18592567

    This dude is mixing up art and reality… He appreciates the positive, but is blind to the negative… This dude needs to get off of his soapbox…

  • $18592567

    he’s a fuckin lame

  • Az1@tik-blkmn

    Do any of you even know how crips even came about, what it’s original purpose was and what sister city group gave them the literature and doctrine for their main cause?

    Also what the acronym was for it?

  • Juan Spin Serrano

    Dont blame a rap group for bringing atention to the violence that still till this day goes on in california. But u don’t hear that anymore cus the industry doesn’t want more rappers from the real streets bringing these problems to light..to most people who don’t know might think that california is in a better place than it was 20 yrs ago…but nope. Everything is the same. Don’t blame nwa or any other group for bringing these issues like police brutality to light

    • onehunglo

      I think you wish NWA was real.lol, police brutality to light? listen, EVERY ghetto has police brutality and corruption, it wouldn’t be a ghetto without it,same as fiends,violence,and quarter drinks ,these things make up a ghetto,so don’t give me that “brought to light” nonsense or the “they are bringing truth” line, LOOK nwa were so over the top with their claims of mayhen and violence both in their music and in interviews that they turned la into a cartoonish world ,people sorta laugh at gangs now, Eddie griffin does a hilarious act on gang members,check it out.BUT back in the late 80’s early nineties youngsters were extremely influenced by their “killer gangster” image to their detriment

  • Afi Keita James

    NWA was about REAL issues and social justice, it paved the way for public enemy, Nas, Tupac shakur, Immortal Technique and more recently Kendrick Lamar.

    • THEguyWHObonedURmoms

      paved the way for public enemy ?, r u dumb?,public enemy came out b4 NWA..just shows u don’t kno what u talking about

  • Carl

    “Minista Paul Scott” (whoever the hell this clown is) can also eat a fat dick, straight up.

  • New York Nigga

    They bought negativity to the game, which we still see today in rap. They were all fake studio gangsters. They had nothing to do with social justice.

    • Eric Cartman

      The Jews are the problem

    • Carlos

      we still see it today, but didnt we see it before.

  • Draco Himself

    Ya’ll are so lost its Pitiful…NWA were manufactured to be stool pigeons and lead us into the ‘Gangsta Rap’ generation that has gotten so many of us Killed and locked into the prison industrial complex at this point !
    These clowns.. (Every last One of’em) had No clue what they signed up for when they were shown some lil BS advance money !
    People tend to say, ‘Dont Blame them for saying whats going on in the streets !! I dont.. But i do blame they punk asses for Promoting and Glorifying the bullshit…
    You’ll Never hear a Sane man say to his grand kids “Once upon a time, i Shot two niggas and robbed 4 more after that !”

    • onehunglo

      lol. ,Indeed.

    • MrsOno

      You might hear them say that if they’re speaking the truth to let them know what not to do. Alot of people have testimonials…remember that.

  • SpliffThaMobbaholic

    once again lets blame everything on Hip Hop…these things were going on decades before NWA…matter of fact lets go back to slave days when blacks turned on their own kind…Ice T was out before NWA & this guy didnt mention him in the interview…NWA rapped about reality so did Ice T…the Jewish profited off of it yes…but to put all the blame on NWA for destruction of the black community is completely far fetched & & a lie…now Ice Cube has been doing alot of positive music for years…does he get credit for that? NO…& what do u expect…a group of 18, 19 , 20 year olds able to make music at a time where they find out they can have free expression…cut the crap…fuck a critic

    • onehunglo

      that’s called a “straw man argument” which renders debate useless.

  • WAKE UP

    ALL YALL HATIN ON NWA NEED TO KILL YA SELF N STOP PLACIN SO MUCH POWER IN CELEBRITIES N RAPPERS..ITS JUS MUSIC..PPL MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES IN LIFE N GONNA DO WHAT THEY’RE GONNA DO REGARDLESS..IF THERE WAS NO RAP MUSIC SHIT WOULD STILL B THE SAME..PPL ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS NOT NO FUCKIN RAPPERS N MUSIC…IDIOTS

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      • onehunglo

        word?

    • onehunglo

      Your superficial knowledge of the issue is embarrassing.

  • TRE

    What an idiot.

  • Monk Wone

    does dude relize that NWA was the product of the 80’s (the crack era) when the hood was the bottom of the food chain…NWA was a release of that era. it was reality…

  • kixxxers

    And the Beatles should be kicked out because they promoted and glorified hallucinogenic drugs and free love … GTFOH NWA symbolizes a truth in history warts and all!

  • Dominick Brown

    If NWA hadnt a done it then someone along the road wouldve done it anyways.

  • Mr.CPT

    He is a dumb ass person!!!!!!!

  • black god

    Rap music didn’t put drugs into your community, the CIA did.

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  • iamwhoiam

    That’s hip hop. Art imitating real life. NWA was a product of they’re environment, they rapped what they saw and lived. Crack had been around at least 5 years before they came out, the killing was already happening, there were plenty of pushers in the streets of many black communities across the country. NWA brought those issues to white Amerikkka right to they’re living rooms. There are many types of styles in hiphop, NWA was raw and uncut but they still had a message with the music. To say they don’t belong in the hiphop hall of fame is craaazy! Not to mention we got Dr. DRE and Ice Cube out of the group. C’mon man, they were a controversial group but you goin a lil overboard.

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  • Carlos

    He has a right to his opinion but he tripping. N.W.A. didnt change anything. I had the n.w.a albums when i was 11 or 12 around there. I had already seen all the stuff they talked about, so thats why i related to them. I do not blame them for whats happening now. N.W.A. even had a say no to weed/drugs attitude. Actually I believe their music helped me let out frustations that i would have probably taken out on other ppl. for example if a cop harrassed me, i can go home and listen to f-ck the police instead of running my mouth to the cop and ending up in jail. Plus Ice t was the one who started gangster rap, why not blame him, he paved the way for them. The only ppl who can blame n.w.a are white ppl as i believe it did affect them more as they were not used to hearing about what is really going on in the hood. PPl forget that music is art, like movies and paintings. No one complains about violence in shows which you would think have more effect on the youth as you can actually see. Minista, the problem is the parents, not the music.

  • ganymede3010

    Art is a byproduct of one’s culture. The thug culture permeated our neighborhoods once nefarious Government forces colluded with crime syndicates to funnel guns and drugs into Black communities. Once this happened conscious rap was supplanted by what they called at the time “reality-rap”. While you may disagree with the subject matter it’s counter-productive to attack the messenger. Plus, N.W.A’s message illustrated how to survive in the inner-city cesspool that they were subjected to. A point that many detractors seem to completely miss.