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Hip-Hop Rumors: Is Beyonce Dissing Jesus?

With this chick its either Beyonce can do no right or Beyonce can do no wrong.

The latest is that people are claiming that at a recent concert Beyonce deliberately blocked out Jesus at a concert. She put up an instagram pic of herself in front of an image of the last supper. Well, she placed herself in front of Jesus – smack dab in the middle. But, what’s so abnormal about this? There is a major uproar though, because people are swing it was done on purpose to block out Lord Jesus! And on a Sunday too? Oh, its ON! Seriously, I know people are calling this an act of the Illuminati, but do you REALLY think it is? Below is the image straight from her instagram.

So….is she dissing the son of God?

I think the fans created this, not Beyonce. Look at what they do? And then they get mad when its time to “bow down.” SMH.


You get the idea. You call Jay “Hova” so why can’t Bey be your Jesus. Just saying.

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  • Shavella Watson

    The majority of her stupid ass fans started this “Beysus” crap. I LOOOOOVE Beyoncé & I’m a stan myself. But the majority of these stupid fans, mostly these bored internet fans are very pathetic. I never found that joke funny. I’m not religious at all but them calling her Beysus & making these pictures are pathetic.

    Seriously I wouldn’t be surprised if one her fans, if not some, ACTUALLY worshipped her. They’re crazy. I can’t deal with them most of the time on twitter, they make her seem so overrated & they’re the main reason why some peeps actually think she worships satan or whatever you call that illuminati crap.

    • SBRon

      Well, I’m NOT much of a fan, but I agree with your assessment…

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  • $18916246

    Man the haters should be ashamed…promoting this all too common n*gga rhetoric….so by all means haters, have a sh*t slurpy over crushed glass….tasty huh?

  • hoeyuno

    Haha…. the one with the Rio Jesus is hilarious..

  • Kel

    Yonce is on another level, beefing with Jesus LOOOOOL. This is just ridiculous now, do people actually believe this????

  • Meeks

    yall so easily deceived if you really think this wasnt an attack on Jesus. n AHH aint shit for their bias stance in this article. you report the news, dont make it what you want. clearly defending this blasphemy.. AHH part of the propaganda.

    • Jared

      Attack on Jesus? LMAO…I really can’t believe people take the Bible as factual, SMH

      • Olu

        The bible is one of the most reliably accurate books of all time. Of course, some of it is allegorical, but the new testament that describes Jesus’ life and purpose was intended to be historical and factual.

      • Meeks

        from front to back, the Bible and every word in it is true.

      • Jared

        That is the dumbest comment I ever heard but since the masses around the world believe that I understand why you would say that.

      • Meeks

        you are entitled to your opinion.

      • Jared

        You are as well, no disrespect. Dialogue is always needed.

      • Meeks

        dialogue yes. dialogue is good. insults, no. attacks, no.

      • SQL

        So are you telling me that you believe that the world was formed from a big bang billions of years ago and that humans are made up of stardust as science suggest?

      • SBRon

        Carbon, for sure…

      • PBM1986

        If you believe that, you havent studied the bible… B.I.B.L.E = Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth… (It’s not a history book)…. And if you cant read hebrew, you have no idea what the real bible says…

      • Meeks

        if you think the Bible is a bunch of made up stories, then i cant help you.

      • PBM1986

        The majority of bible allegory, including the story of Jesus’ birth, can be found on the walls of egypt dating back thousands of years before Christianity… The bible says to seek the truth… If you believe there’s an invisible man in the sky, who gets mad if you’re a bad boy, you might as well believe in Santa Clause… Simple minded people believe in fairy-tales put forth to control you… Intelligent people can decipher the laws of physics as the laws of God… Think about it… The creator cant be jealous, like the bible says… It makes no sense… If you read your Bible, you’ll also notice the words, God, Lord God, Lord, etc. dont refer to the same person… Go study before you just take things in as reality…

      • Meeks

        there were no records of Jesus on any walls long before His coming.. you have been deceived. i bet you also believe the Bible is plagiarized off of ancient greek mythology, huh… theres so many lies out here, and all the naive ignorant people bite all the fruit.

      • PBM1986

        Homey… You’re the most ignorant naive person posting… You have not studied history, the hebrew version of the bible, the history of king james, world history, etc. yet you preach as if you know the truth…. You dont know shit.

      • Meeks

        what do you know.

      • PBM1986

        Apparently more than you… You still “believe” in God… To believe means you cant prove… I “KNOW” God… You know a book… There’s a difference…

      • SBRon

        BOOM!!!

      • Meeks

        i dont know God? who are you talking about.

        you are really on a roll here.. thinking you know somebody lol. but it dont matter what you think. i have a great relationship with God. dont matter what YOU say or think like you are somebody important.

      • Jared

        Being an engineer I have nothing but respect for this response. If the masses even understood the concept of quantum mechanics, general relativity, and string theory the world would be a much different place. No wonder the U.S. education is in decline, smh

      • Meeks

        if people actually understood the word and had a relationship with God and accepted Jesus, there wouldnt be anybody like you.

        notice how much the stats have changed since they took God out of school and put science in His place? take away God and force feed some satanic propaganda…. irony, right?

        they say you “shouldnt force God on anybody”.. so what do they do, take Him out of the school, but swiftly replace Him with something that negates Him… very contradicting, right? if you shouldnt force God on anybody, then you sholdnt force that scientific theory trash on anybody either.

      • Realist4200

        Religion, god, and prophets are all fading away just like the concept of a flat earth, just like our beliefs that “witches” should be burned, and so many other conclusions that were jumped to out of ignorance. Ignorance as in lack of understanding of the situation at hand.

        I live my life how I want to live it. If there’s a god, I’ll be judged by my genuine actions; the things I did or didn’t do for myself and others – without the expectation of a resulting reward or punishment. You, on the other hand, need the motivation of a heaven to be a good person.

        You’re like a dog being trained to sit. Once they know the game, any dog will sit for a treat. But when they sit down even when you have nothing for them, that’s what’s respectable.

      • Meeks

        unless you accept Jesus as your personal Lord and savior, forfeit yourself to God, be baptized in holy water, you wont be accepted into heaven.

        you can live the perfect life, but unless you accept Jesus, it means nothing.

        you have the free will to live and feel what you want… but that doesnt mean you live it without God and Jesus in your life and heart.

        why do people think we are here? satan asked a simple question that lit a question in all the ignorants hearts…”what is the purpose of life”… but to the christian, to the one that has a relationship with God, knows exactly what the purpose is.

        so you can go ahead and walk your life blind, im good and fine living mine with God and Jesus as my Lord. i have no mysteries in life. only trust and faith.

      • Realist4200

        Then your god has ego issues. It should treat all good deeds the same, no matter if the do-gooder suckles upon it’s falice or not. Enjoy your life though.

      • Meeks

        Hes everybodys God.. whether you accept that or not, doesnt change the fact. God Bless.

      • johnblacksad

        tell me more about this Satan dude… I have a real hard time with its concept…

      • johnblacksad

        You have accepted Jesus and you’re tryin your best to live a righteous live within God, and I command you for that. Yes you will be saved. I just hope you don’t get mad the day God forgives Hitler and the rest of the sinners and makes on room on the table for all of them to come sit with ya’ll and feast altogether… no one will be left behind… otherwise, we’re still not talking about The Most High… trust me (no blasphemy) He Got It Like That! It’s hard, if not impossible for us humans to imagine someone like Hitler can be forgiven uh? How else is God gonna show is power if he doesn’t pull out what you thought was impossible?!

        The only difference I see between people like you that have accepted Christ and the rest of the sinners, is you might get in on the vip list, while others will have to wait in line… that’s about it… everything else about an almighty God that, despite all this time, still hasn’t found a way to permanently get rid of this so called Satan dude… I have a hard to time to conceive.

        Giving you free will, God knows you can go left or right, so to prevent we don’t fcuk it all up, he gave us access and control to our body and spirit… but the sould is like the Windows System Files, you do not have access to them, can re-write, over-write, nothing… that’s the part of you that’s already saved and within God as we speak… you could’nt detach yourself from God if you wanted to… so choose to believe in Jesus, or live a criminal life, all there is to it is that you’ll get to experience completely different things depending on the life you choose, but that’s it… in the end… the very end, I’m talkin about the very end, God wins, everybody is forgiven, everybody feastin on that big azz table with the G.O.D., even Satan, if he exists of course…

        (now don’t misinterpret what i’m sayin… just because everybody will be forgiven doesn’t mean it’s a free pass to go killing, robbing and sinning left right, your experience on earth will be different depending on the life you chose… but your soul, I swear, all of our souls are already locked and secured with God)

        Peace
        (I know i be cynical and saracstic with it, but still tho, try to peep the message behind… in the end, I believe in God, you believe in God, but you also “believe in” Satan… and that’s the main difference between us)

      • Sean Taylor

        “You have accepted Jesus and you’re tryin your best to live a righteous live within God, and I command you for that.”

        The word you’re looking to use is commend, not “command”.

      • johnblacksad

        props… each one reach one teach one… I commend you for that!

      • Meeks

        i cant read all that right now, but i couldnt help but notice you say nobody will be left behind.. thats false. hell is a real place and it is where majority is headed.

      • johnblacksad

        You wish… luckily, God is not like you… he is very forgiving.

        Why does it have to be two different spaces for eternity? why couldn’t it be otherwise? why couldn’t it be that we all go to the same place but at a different time? I would like you to think about that, but, respectfully, it might fly over your head.

        Time and Space… your (most) conception is that there are two different spaces… heaven and hell, and we stay in either one for eternity… I believe, I know, that God almighty, being smarter than that, made sure we all go to the same space, but at a different time… let’s say Hitler being last to get in for instance…

      • johnblacksad

        That’s so human… you’d hate for people to be saved when they didn’t put nearly nowhere the effort to be righteous like you… what can I say? that’s on you.. You wish there was a hell where the ‘mean’ people and the sinners and the people who never even had the opportunity to hear about Christ and thus accept him, would go to… but the good news is you are saved already… it’s the gift from God… if there’s a Satan, he is defeated already… do what you want… be righteous if you want and reap the benefit from it, go rob and kill people and suffer the consequences from it, you’re still saved in the end! You might regret having wasted time robbing and killing tho… but that’s all… God is Good! He’s definitely shooting for the best scenario… and I really don’t like yours…

      • Jared

        You need to open you mind for real bruh

      • Meeks

        i did.. and Jesus found me. and nothing can take me out of His grip.

      • Jared

        According to who? So the earth must be 10,000 years old, LMAO. Just because Christianity is the more dominant religion around the world doesn’t it make it accurate, lol.

      • Jared

        I assume you believe the earth is 10,000 years old. Is that a fair assumption?

      • Jared

        You really believe that Mary, Jesus’ mother produced by immaculate conception? That honestly makes sense to you?

      • Peter Morris

        Maybe it’s more believable to say that when you die you go to heaven with 40 virgins (because God is all about sex)- Islam. Or maybe reincarnation is more “believable” to you because jumping from body to body makes sense- Hinduism. If not Christianity, not Islam, not Hinduism then what’s next? Scientology where they believe God is in a space ship above. More believable! I know.. you don’t have a faith or you don’t believe in anything. You believe that the earth, galaxy, oceans, people, animals, evolution, particles and everything else that makes life happened by 2 rocks hitting together. That is more believable.

        The fact is regardless what religion got it right.. none of it would sound “realistic”. But you’re here. And you’re just a human.. just like Beyonce, regardless of how many records the bitch sells.. she still takes a shit like the rest of us. No hate on Beyonce, she’s just not Jesus.

      • SBRon

        Where/when did she say she was…?

      • Peter Morris

        When she blocked him out and stood in his seat at the last supper.

      • SBRon

        I’m not passing judgment until I hear what she has to say about it. IF she says anything at all…

      • Meeks

        aint you the naive one.

    • chiboy773

      of course this is blatant. These music companies are satanic and most artist indulge in evil worship. People love these entertainers so much, they will go against Jesus just cause they dont wanna believe they would do such. Satans plan is working well to deceive the public of Jesus existence. People better wake up

      • Meeks

        thats just stating the obvious. none of these attacks surprise me. God / Jesus / Christianity / Christians have been under attack for quite a while from all angles, from tv, tv shows, news, music, papers, stand-up comedies, movies, etc… none of this is a surprise to me.

      • Jared

        Hilarious. You need to get up on your religion’s history. Christians under attack? You need to go back and read up on the both Crusades. Who were the aggressors? it is a FACT that not only killed Muslims(religion goes hand in hand with war) but they also cooked them and ate them so go due the knowledge and use another reference besides the Bible.

      • Meeks

        i love when people bring up the crusades… living the present 3-4-5 hundred years ago… how ever long ago that was.. yea, things do change… also funny when people attack God using mans imperfections and inconsistencies.

        bottom line is, God, Jesus, christians, and christianity has been under attack.. and a lot of if subtle / subliminal… some blatant, and some is finessed. i wouldnt expect the blind to see it tho … cuz i can sure feel it.

      • johnblacksad

        You are not talkin about inquisition, are you?

      • johnblacksad

        You know Nelson Mandela being freed only in 1990 after 27 years of wrongful incarceration has to do with the white south african motherfcukers interpretation of that book you defend so much right?

        God/Jesus/Christianity ain’t the only victim… all religion have been or are under attack… you should see the fire the muslims are catching these days…

        A lof of evil has be done in the name of the bible also… so chill with the victimization

      • Meeks

        the Muslims attack is seldom compared to christianity. besides, when have you seen muhammad being attacked? cuz i see Jesus / GOD being attacked all the time.

      • johnblacksad

        Probably takes a satanic to recognize one… I personally couldn’t tell if those music companies are satanic or not… matter fact I don’t even know who this satan dude is… all I know, all that exists to me, is the almighty G.O.D., no competition… no satan, no other bullsh!t… period.

        Funny how you so called righteous people keep satan’s name alive in your mouth more than anybody else

        see no evil, hear none, speak none… peace.

        Now back to what you was sayin…

    • johnblacksad

      So that’s Jesus on the pic behind her? didn’t know… I thought it was a Da Vinci’s painting

  • KLewis

    Before we start making up stuff or baseless conspiracy theories, could we get another angle of the photo?

  • Immortal

    Man every time something happens, AHH throws out the illuminati tag. Fired chicken – illuminati, Jello-O – illuminati, Twerkin – illuminati, Call of Duty Ghosts – illuminati. Just stop with the illuminati references.

  • jesus could make his own beats, write his own lyrics, mix, master, promote, and bust a dance routine…just saying…

    • Nemesis_Enforcer

      LOL

      • think u read my post wrong bro

      • bisolabliss

        I think ‘Nemesis’ gets it…my first reaction to you comment too was LOL. We know you are mocking the so-called ‘queen’ that can’t write and hasn’t written a line of any of her lyrics EVER.

  • Slim

    Obviously this was deliberate, it’s not like they freestyle their performances. They do rehearse, and what was the purpose of the use of that image anyway? It’s just like Miley Cyrus twerking at the MTV awards, all that shit was planned, it was rehearsed! They don’t just get on stage and addlib with random images.. that just sounds stupid, especially for a performer as big as Beyonce, but I’m not forcing my beliefs on anyone, just sharing my opinion.

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  • AlbertoRipRon

    Queen of the hive minds…

  • Judah Nazayar

    dont argue wid these buffoons. and these entertainers worship the whiteman as god. Dont believe me? 32 degree shriner masonry is “man is god”… who created that? ESAU..ISAIAH 14=LUCIFER IS A MAN..A PPL.. WHO CONTROL THE WORLD..AND HAVE SLAVES WHO CAME TO AMERICA ON SLAVE SHIPS. But i know.. this too deep for simple mimded chimps.. Thats why you see the shift from RAP and HIPHOP..to so called “CONSCIOUNESS movement”. U see the smart brothers on Youtube.. we done moved from the Ni99ery..to intelligence. Catch Judah Nazura on Youtube..battling wack Kemetian cats and Pan Hamfricanist wid their boolshet. U will see many other brothers as well. GMS, FOPE, WGN,World of Blacks,Sa Neter, Sara Suten Seti, Polite, Nasi the Israelite, Loaded lux,..and a whole slew of real PPL.
    NO BLONDE HEAIRED COONS..AND MONKEY MINDED NEGROES.. U STICK TO ESAUS BRAINWASHING ENTERTAINEMENT COONS. U SEE THESE ARTIST NOW TRYING TO COME TO US. I ALREADY HAVE JESUITS BEGGING ME TO STOP TEACHING THE TORAH TO BLACK PPL.
    NOPE!! ISRAEL IS THE NEW “HIPHOP”.. GOOD LUCK ESAU INFILTRATING THIS MOVEMENT. SHOUTS 2 EL BARK, EDO G,ISK, BEN REAL

    • Immortal

      Man I understand what you are saying and the message you are trying to convey, but when you are trying to get someone to see your side of a point, you shouldn’t have to resort to name calling and eventually turn them off to your ideas, and ideals. You have an intelligent idea and a forum to use it in. Sell it to us, make those that aren’t “enlightened” want to become “enlightened” and those that do not see your frame of mind, wish them the best in their endeavors with an open door to come back.

      • Judah Nazayar

        UMMM… IF NIKKAS IS EMOTIONAL LIKE FEMALES.. THE MOST HIGH DONT NEED YOUR SERVICE. U CAN CONTINUE TO WEAR SKINNY JEANS AND WORSHIP RAP COONS.
        BLACK ISRAEL>>>>>>>>>BAPHOMET RAP MUSIC COONS

  • just_some_bastard #ALCOHOLIC

    I’m tired of all of this religious stuff.

    • Judah Nazayar

      u dont have to worry about it.. youll be starving to death in a lil while..
      NEW WORLD ORDER== ALOTTA BUFFOONS ARE GONNA BE EATING THEIR JORDAN 11 S FOR DINNER!! PRAISE THE MOST HIGH FOR THAT

      • just_some_bastard #ALCOHOLIC

        Who is to say the cancer they’re putting in the water won’t kill me first?

  • Cloud Air

    this was definitely on purpose.. the beatles did the same stuff back in the 60s.. they mock Christ while they’re alive but when they die they end up in hell upside down in a cauldron

    • Realist4200

      Lol. People believe this stuff?

    • Meeks

      Galations 6:7
      “do not be deceived, God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.”

  • Cloud Air

    people need to stop worshiping “idols” its the same as what the pagans used to do except instead of sacred cows its beyonce and her shitty feminist music

  • jd

    Was Nas dissing Jesus on Streets Disciple album cover? FOH with this.

  • Nicolas Aquarelli

    trash article illseed you are a faggot

  • Satchmo

    Hahahaha all of the people that are saying that God is real. There is no difference between Christianity/ Scientology/ Greek myths/ Catholicism – it’s all just a way for humans to believe in something bigger then themselves. The worst part is it’s not working. Look at this message board for proof – bunch of ignorant fuckers on either side of the argument. Religious people won’t believe science or even join into intelligent debate instead referring to a book written by MEN for MEN. Then the people that believe in science as it has been PROVEN through numerous tests, experiments, etc. get all ignorant and call religious people dumb. RELIGION IS A TOOL THAT KEEPS PEOPLE DIVIDED – if we could all just look at the bible and other religious scriptures as more of what they actually are: stepping stones for how to live a good honest life rather then ‘the man in the sky will spite ye’. THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT THEN GRIMMS FAIRY TALES – the lessons are meant as a way for us to know right from wrong. Nothing else. There is a higher power and it’s called NATURE and it is pissed because of the way we have fucked this planet up. Stop being ignorant – love and respect one another as human beings and not children of a ‘God’.

    • SQL

      So where do you stand? are you an atheist, christian, scientist??? what?

      • Satchmo

        Good question. I lean heavier to science but I don’t stand for any of it really. I stand for taking care of one another, remaining humble, giving back to the community, working hard and doing at least one decent thing for the planet a day (picking up trash on the side of the road well walking my dogs, walking to work rather then drive, etc, etc).

    • Christina Snatchko

      Dude, I am feeling really sad for you. Why don’t YOU STOP BEING MAD IGNORANT & wash your mouth out because nobody wants to hear a bunch of stupid ish’ you talking about! Obviously you yourself must really be disappointed & upset that there truly is GOD (a one & only) not what you have mentioned in the very last line……’one another as human beings and not children of a ‘GOD’! So I’m assuming you have grew up thinking there a whole bunch of different GODS around us every day! I am going to pray just for you Satchmo! You do need help. 😐😕

      • Satchmo

        Easy Christina. I was not raised in a household where there were a bunch of different Gods. My parents are both very Christian, I even went to church as a child. Do not assume to know me as I do not assume to know you. Perhaps you could see through the usual trappings of a religious debate and understand that I am not hating anyone for their views. I care less what another person believes in as long as they are taking care of each other, taking care of the planet and helping in the community. Is that not what the bible teaches? Tolerance? Please do not pray for me as I do not need them, save the prayers for you and yours as it’s something that HELPS you and makes YOU feel better. Nothing wrong with that – just keep me out of it. I go to the gym or volunteer in my community when I need to feel better.

      • Christina Snatchko

        Easy Satchmo! Ease up some! That’s right, you just continue doing what you do & I continue doing what I do. No matter what, GOD has the final say anyways! Nay GOD bless you. 😬

    • Jayson Brown da Poet

      “It’s all just a way for humans to believe in something bigger (THAN) themselves?” Since when have humans operated in that manner? Humans always think they are the reason for. What on GOD’s green earth are you talking about?

      • Satchmo

        Siiighh humans have always reached to explain the unexplainable through stories or ‘faith’. If the Greeks believed that their were monsters that caused natural disasters as did the Japanese (forgive my broad strokes on this but i believe that earthquakes centuries ago were believed to have been caused by a giant catfish under Japan) which were all proven WRONG by science then why is it so far fetched that an invisible being could be made up as well? Human beings have wild and wonderful imaginations and some of the best stories and lessons have come from it. Again, I could give a shit less what you believe in – if it works for you fine. As I said in a post earlier – I know that this first post I put up was a little inflammatory but at the time I was frustrated by both sides of the argument. Do you, I’m not hating just don’t pop up on to a soap box and try and change my mind. All I ask is that people do the knowledge and not just read ONE book – take a look at the contradictory books as well. It’s how science has been able to explain so much because they can be WRONG too and accept that…

      • Jayson Brown da Poet

        Brother I accepted it when I told you I’ll pray for you. I am done.

      • Satchmo

        Word! Save the prayers though homeboy. Thanks for the discussion though.

      • Jayson Brown da Poet

        LOL, you still think it’s about you? It is for me. You just happen to be the source.

      • Satchmo

        Sure thing.

  • LOL @ AHH
    I prefer to look at a blonde black woman rather than at a blue eyed Jesus.

    Religion is only good to keep the people who don’t want to use their brain busy.
    And if you need soldiers to sacrifice themselves for whatever stupid cause and reasoning wars have.

    Lol at those who believe the majority of people on earth are Christians. There are probably more Hindus on earth.

    • Meeks

      i never seen a picture of a blue eyed Jesus. ever. and i saw a lot of pics of fake Jesus’.

      • Look. I have a job. So I don’t have the time to do work you can do by yourself.
        Just Google Jesus. And check for images. I bet with you exactly half
        of all image results show a Jesus with blue eyes and light brown hair.

      • johnblacksad

        Unless Blue is the color that Bloods rep, Jesus eyes are blue on a whole bunch of pics.

      • Meeks

        never seen Jesus portrayed with blue eyes.. even if you seen a “PICTURE” of Him with blue eyes…. what does that got to do with HIM lol. logic is never logical with angry atheists. they just spit a bunch of non-relevant rubbish that only other mindless atheists like.

      • SBRon

        Michelangelo’s cousin, son…it’s called RESEARCH (not BLIND FAITH)!! He, Michelangelo, was commissioned in 1519 by Pope Julius II to paint a “new” image of Christ, the one most of you have hanging prominently in your houses of worship…

      • Meeks

        now tell me what does that picture mean? are you saying that picture is holy? that it is to be worshiped? you are talking about the catholic religion and thats a whole nother blasphemous conversation.

        bottom line, a picture means nothing. please tell me what some meaningless picture mean. nobody on this earth currently has seen Jesus.. not even in 1519.. so explain clearly what this means? what is the significance? does that picture mean Jesus really has blue eyes?

      • SBRon

        You know what you seem to not realize…? THAT “meaningless” picture was painted right about the time the Transatlantic slave trade was jumpin’ off! Hmmm…? Coincidence? Tell a African to accept your lot in life as that of a slave!! “See, Jesus is white, that means God is white. So, if you obey your white (of God) master, you can get to “Heaven” (after we’re done raping, beating, screwin’ up your mind & working you to death)!!!”

      • Meeks

        who said Jesus is white? hes jewish.. but we dont know what jews were like back in HIS time… Jesus, you know, that man … GOD CAME DOWN IN THE FLESH. “HIM”…

        jews back then, I THINK, are like middle easterns today..

        why dont you stop believing in lies and holding a whole group accountable like everybody believes that. it only harms you if you believe it.

        you got anger problems.

        i understand im probably the most consistent christian on here, so that makes me a target.. and you having that pride issue, you like to sound off like you know something i dont. when all you have displayed is ignorance. im a need you to get it together.

      • SBRon

        Was I typing “angry” or something..? You fail by trying to project YOUR anger on me. I told you WHO said Jesus was white AND why they said it!?! You Bible dudes are really hopeless and completely shutoff to anything contradictory to what you believe (hence ZERO peace on earth)!! Done with you…

      • Meeks

        done with me? your whole conversation is irrelevant.

        it dont matter who said it and why.. what does that have to do with Jesus? this is what you fail to realize. and you fail to explain the importance. ive asked a few questions that you completely ducked.

        Shalom, brother. & God Bless.

        (EDIT: “im done with you” sound pretty angry to me. you type with much anger thats easily sensible. who are you kiddin..)

      • SBRon

        The ONLY thing irrelevant is your bible, but God Bless…

      • Meeks

        but your a christian, right?

        shalom.

    • johnblacksad

      Asher, you be spittin low key ether…

      “There are probably more Hindus on earth” POW!

      Lookin at it like that… Christians need to chill with thinking they’re the only one saved and sh!t

      • I just like to offer some real thought

        The fact there are over 4 billion people living in Asia
        should be reason enough to question many statements
        we just make out of comfort. Just because ppl are born
        into a society that is majorly following one type of religion
        it does not mean the rest of the world is doing exactly
        the same.

      • Sean Taylor

        Real thought?

        What you said is plain false, think about that.

      • Satchmo

        Asia is the world’s largest and most populous continent with a population of 4.3 billion people. Located primarily in the eastern and northern hemispheres, Asia covers 8.7% of the Earth’s total surface area and comprises 30% of its land area. With approximately 4.3 billion people, it makes up 60% of the world’s current human population. <~~~~ soooo explain this then? Typical of those that can't think for themselves. Dude is talking FACT not FICTION.

      • Satchmo

        Even if Christianity makes up 33 percent of the worlds religion (as per 2011 poll) that’s only 1/3rd of the population. There are more people that DON’T believe in Christianity in the world. Religions and the disagreement between them has been the top reason for war and death throughout history. Don’t believe me? Research it. Research the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, etc., etc. if these people were supposedly doing ‘Gods work’ then God must be a wrathful and vengeful being. Disappointing that as grown folks we still must argue over FACT.

      • Jayson Brown da Poet

        1 Peter 1:1-12

        GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

        Greeting

        1 From Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ.

        To God’s chosen people who are temporary residents in the world and are scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia. 2 God the Father knew you long ago and chose you to live holy lives with the Spirit’s help so that you are obedient to Jesus Christ and are sprinkled with his blood.

        May good will[a] and peace fill your lives!

      • Satchmo

        I can’t help you if you can’t help yourself man. Like I have said numerous times previously. If God is what gets you by – all the power to you. It, he, she doesn’t do that for me – the lessons are great sure but a floating deity or all powerful creator? Nah, that doesn’t work for me however it doesn’t make me any less of a human being then you.

      • Meeks

        God doesnt get you by? are you not alive and breathing right now? have you been eating? you have enough money to survive? you have a home? a bed to sleep on?

        if God didnt get you by, then you would be dead right now.

      • Satchmo

        Jayson, appreciate the healthy discourse. Thank you for that. I’m glad that we can agree to disagree – if there were more Christians like you I wouldn’t have such a bone to pick. I don’t need the prayers but appreciate the positivity nonetheless. I disagree with some of your ‘proven facts’ but you come across intelligent and together and that’s all I can ask for when it comes to discussions like this.

        Meeks, you on the other hand, I finished with you last night as I find your posts to be of a shallow nature that leaves you just enough wiggle room to escape logic. That’s totally all good – do you homeboy. You are too deep down the rabbit hole for me Alice.

      • Meeks

        you completely lack logic if you dont believe God. this has already been established. you had no argument thats why you ran.

      • Satchmo

        I’m not running idiot. I’m done with your non sensible ass, you can’t agree to disagree so why should I bother with you? If you can’t let me have my opinion because of something your book says that’s your M.O. I have stated NUMEROUS times if God does it for you – all the power to you.

      • Meeks

        attacking again, huh. name calling. anger. thats very atheist of you.

      • Satchmo

        Hahahahaha. Come at me bro! Allow me to re-iterate – if God is what YOU need in your life – all the power to you. It’s not what I need though so save the diatribe. I look at religion the same way as homosexuality – feel free to practice what you want if it isn’t hurting anyone but don’t try to convert me. Is that too reasonable for you to understand?

      • Satchmo

        Hahahahaha come at me bro! Word, I am very atheist – thanks for noticing. Look bud I’ll say it again – good for you that YOU believe in God however I don’t. I’m not looking to convert you however I am just asking you to tone it down. Look, I’ll break it down like this: Religion is the same as homosexuality – if it’s what makes YOU happy and you are not hurting anyone then I have got no issue. However, just because it’s something you believe in doesn’t mean I have to nor should I have it forced on me. I could debate/ talk for hours about the inconsistencies I see in your statements but vice versa I’m sure you feel the same way about mine. So why not just agree to disagree? Is tolerance not part of your religion?

      • Meeks

        i stopped reading at “hahaha come at me bro! word i am very atheist”

        what is this world coming to? you got serious issues that only God can fix. you are are a example of atheists all over the world…

        memo to other atheists.. come get your boy.. he making yall look even worse.

      • Satchmo

        Hahahahaahahhahahahahahhhahaha take it easy. I have read every comment you have written to me, answered every question you asked and even gave you props for your conviction of faith. So how is it that you can’t do the same? Cause I’m backing up what I’m saying? Because I can talk about this stuff by referencing FACT and not just pages of a book that was written by MEN? I should know better – the fact is that arguing with people on the internet is like the special Olympics cause even if you win…you’re still retarded.

        And on that note: Hey God you should probably beam your boy Meek up, he’s making you look bad.

      • Meeks

        your ignorance pains my soul.

      • Satchmo

        The feeling is mutual Meeks.

      • Meeks

        oh no. great comeback. so mindless you cant even think of something to say. you were better off leaving this alone.

        over & OUT.

      • Satchmo

        So because I feel the same way about you that you do about me I’m mindless? You are a sad sack of shit Meeks, your passive aggressive bullshit is laughable. This hasn’t been an intelligent debate because you can’t debate – you got tunnel vision homey. This entire time I’ve told you I respect you for your beliefs and yet you keep ignoring that. I spent the time to read EACH one of your replies and respond accordingly, granted these last replies have gotten a wee bit less mature but when you’re dealing with a child who repeats the same shit for 24 hours and brings NOTHING NEW to the table it can become frustrating and start to sound like jokes. Jokes Meeks, do you get jokes? Do you understand sarcasm? Cause I love that shit man. Tell you what: When you finally pull your head out of your ass I hope the light don’t hurt your eyes too much cause it’s an amazing world out here. So much to learn and understand, so many good BOOKS with so many differing opinions and view points. Truly it’s a beautiful world.

      • Meeks

        you dont impress me. you dont interest me. you a hypocrite. you are clueless.. and a waste of time. you are also funny, in a non funny type a way

        you are also pretty angry from the look of it..

      • Satchmo

        Hahahaha. Yup, angry that your mother didn’t abort your retarded ass. I’ve had a smile on my face this whole time homeboy! Thanks, it’s been a slice! Keep sipping the kool-aid and keep that flat brim low over them eyes cause it’s obvious you’re blind anyways. Peace!

      • Meeks

        *shots fired* got me there. good one. your so clever.

      • Satchmo

        Come on Meeks! It’s “You’re so clever” not your. YOU’RE proving my point on that abortion thing…

      • Meeks

        i know what it is but im careless when im uninterested. i could have just put “yur” or “ur” or something. you should be glad i gave you that much spelling.

      • johnblacksad

        if you knew God will look out for him too, you wouldn’t be…

      • johnblacksad

        but you are logic with this Satan bullsh!t… lmao at God having a nemesis… please!

      • Meeks

        you are also clueless. why do you think we are here.. its a battle for souls. why do you think satan challnged God and took a 3rd of heavens angels with him.. SATAN FOOLED A 3RD OF HEAVENS ANGELS.. LISTEN TO ME.. SATAN FOOLED A 3RD OF HEAVENS ANGELS INTO BELIEVING SATAN IS MORE POWERFUL THAN GOD HIMSELF..

        so if satan can fool a THIRD of heavens angels.. angelsTHAT KNOW GOD PERSONALLY, then how easy would it be for him to fool some lowly human like you that never met God?

        let that sink in for a minute.. but i dont think thats capable with ya shallow brain.

      • Jayson Brown da Poet

        You are right! It definitely does does not make you any less of a human being “than” me. I just thought I rebuttal on you statements. My job is to except you opinion, love you, and pray for you. I gave you my inductive, researched, interpretation of biblical studies that are not only proven facts, but events. So God bless and I wish you the best.

      • Jayson Brown da Poet

        Just because Asia practice another religion does not make them right for doing so. IT IS WRITTEN ASIA WAS CHOSE TO LIVE HOLY LIVES WITH THE SPIRIT”S HELP SO THAT THEY ARE OBEDIENT TO JESUS CHRIST… so what they do differently is on them. Probably why Revelations speaks on China being a major factor in the Apocalypse.

      • Sean Taylor

        POW what? Christianity is the largest religion.

  • Meeks

    you notice how all the atheists are on here screaming and “HAHAHA’n” and LOL!!’n” all over the place and casually and loosely throwing around insults??

    its always easy to spot the heart of a atheist. but they swear God aint real.. no… they lack God cuz they dont accept Him. and it shows, clearly.

    • Satchmo

      You are just as guilty bud. Don’t judge less ye be judged is in your ‘good book’. All for intelligent debate but don’t hop on a high horse.

      • Meeks

        funny when people throw that scripture around like they understand what it means. where have i “judged”? and you are a atheist trying to bring in scripture to “judge” somebody… you just judged me by saying i judged or i been throwing around insults.. please show me where, if you would be so kind.

        and what intelligent debate can you have with somebody attacking you?

      • Satchmo

        Oh I totally agree with you – both parties need to be willing to debate. I’ve read through a lot of the comments on here and you are quick to jump to attack as well so forgive me if I stand slightly stunned by your response. I have read the bible, the Qur’an and numerous papers on Buddhism, Scientology, Greek mythology, etc., etc. So when I throw scripture around I do understand it’s meaning. The thing I’ve come to realize after reading through it all – the stories are similar but the takeaway is specific to each religion

        You ever played that game when you were a kid where somebody would tell you something and then you told the next person and on and on and by the time it comes back to the first person the story is twisted entirely? Now imagine that through CENTURIES – and you’re going to tell me that you don’t think shit got just a wee bit twisted through the ages? It’s disappointing to me because we are such an intelligent species but we can’t seem to grasp the fact that these are STORIES told by MEN.

      • Meeks

        you dont understand cuz if you did, then you would know the truth. IQ and wisdom are 2 different things. you can know something but not KNOW it, if you get what i mean..

        for example, you may know the lyrics to a song, but you dont really know what the song is really about.. or you may be able to read a foreign language, but cant understand what its saying.

        its 1 thing to learn something, another thing to adopt it and keep it within you and live it. ive already talked to many people like you who claim to have studied a bunch of different theories, religions, philosophies, etc. so this conversation is just a re-run to me.

        but your example of the childs game is fraud. difference between kids telling a secret in a circle and translating written scriptures from language to language.

        take “Jesus is God” for example. take that and translate it to spanish for me.. then translate it to french for me.. then translate it to german for me, etc etc… in every language, that it is translated to will read, “Jesus is God”.

        ive heard that argument so many times, but its really not thought out. its almost like a reactionary excuse to not believe it.

      • Satchmo

        And here lies the age old fork in the road. I look at your response and see childish reasoning but that is my opinion. Adults are just as guilty of spreading false information or re-telling history if it is a benefit to them. It’s become a lot harder to do so since the age of global connectivity but back before electricity, internet, phones hell even mail it would be a lot easier to write off strange phenomena or fabricate stories. IQ and knowledge are two totally different things I agree and I am impressed that you have such conviction. Good for you man. It takes balls to believe in something so strongly that you cannot be convinced otherwise or even accept alternate possibilities. I’m not looking to convert you, I just ask that everybody do their own research and come to their own conclusions but settle on ONE universal set of rules (ie, be good to each other, don’t lie or cheat, etc.,,etc.).

      • Meeks

        i dont feel strongly about something unless i know with my heart.. and i can say my heart and soul knows. i know 1st hand the transformation that Gods capable of putting you through.. and others.. and i know 1st hand his blessings.

        but what is childish reasoning? i havnt said anything childish. the closest thing to childish that was said was the kid example of a group of kids telling a secret in a circle, trying to compare that to written scriptures being translated from language to language throughout the years. you dont think God is capable of having His word translated properly to the world? what did Jesus die for?

      • Satchmo

        Ugh, it’s frustrating trying to convey tone through text. I feel I explained the childish reasoning in my last reply – please re-read it. I am simply stating that people are known to embellish stories, even some of the most famous non-fiction has been taken to task for falsehoods because it’s a PERSONS interpretation or memory. I can’t honestly believe that that couldn’t also happen with the bible especially over the number of years it has been told, written, etc…

        If YOUR heart and soul knows that’s good for you. You get what you need from it, more power to you. My heart and soul believe something different – I have a great life, I get what I need out of it and give back so that I can (hopefully) leave the earth a little better then when I came in. No harm, no foul.

      • Meeks

        do you think the Bible is a book of false teachings and false events? so you think Jesus is made-up.. but you say you studied different religions.. didnt you ever study the muslim religion? they also have documentation of Jesus’ existence… they just didnt believe Him to be who He said He was.. they believe muhammad. theres more proof of the biblical events to be true. everything is actual events, actual people.. they even found peter, mary, lazarus buried by each other in JERUSALEM. real people. real events. real teachings. nothing but the truth in that Book.

        EDIT: not moses, PETER. my mistake. typing too fast. i actually would have to check again. not 100% certain. but it was 1 of Jesus disciples.

      • Satchmo

        All good. Agree to disagree. I’m tired homeboy. My point is can we not just be good people? Religion or not?

      • Satchmo

        I’ll admit I came off crazy ignorant in my first post on here but am just so frustrated with both sides.

      • Satchmo

        Have it your way kid. Peace

      • Meeks

        already said its not my way. God Bless.

      • Satchmo

        Nah I’ll pass on the blessing but thanks though. Keep that for yourself.

      • johnblacksad

        LMAO…

        blessings are always acceptable tho

      • Meeks

        it can be frustrating when you are not in the truth.. once you accept the truth, everything is smooth sailing, spiritually.

      • Satchmo

        Dude, you are seriously pissing me off now, can we not have differing opinions? I’m done.

      • Meeks

        lol you said something to me, i responded. im sorry that you posted again.

      • PBM1986

        Homey, I believe in God… And you cant contest anything I said… I can prove it all… If you think the bible is completely true, you’re an idiot… And that’s coming from someone who accepts God as the creator… The king james version of the bible is VERY VERY VERY flawed and is not the exact translation of the hebrew bible… Jesus was hebrew, right??? So if you haven’t read the hebrew for yourself, what are you discussing??????? You dont know what you’re talking about because you havent studied…

      • Meeks

        “I believe in God… And you cant contest anything I said… I can prove it all.”

        “God is not a Him”

        what has modern day christians come to… they are watered down. difference between being a believer and a christian.

      • PBM1986

        Christianity is a religion that has killed more people than Aids… “Believers” are the biggest murderes in history…
        You think that’s Godly??? Study the antichrist in revelations and think catholic church while you read it… That’s also the church that gave you your bible, and sodomizes kids… Think for yourself and dont be an idiot… Translate the hebrew as soon as you can homey…

      • Meeks

        “you think thats Godly?”

        why are you bringing up something that happened hundredsss of years ago? what wars has christianity started? you must be talking about muslims… they kill and kill proudly..

        again, why are you taking God under trial for mans imperfections.. its been made more than clear that no man is perfect and that we are all sinners.. so how can you put a God on trial for a sinful man?

        i see your pride runs thick and ignorance runs high. thats a common problem to have tho. 1 usually comes with the other.

      • PBM1986

        why are you bringing up something that happened hundredsss of years ago? *** The Bible happened hundreds of years ago, so why are you bringing it up..lol*** what wars has christianity started? You cant be serious…

      • Dubz

        All religion has blood on its hands…not just Christianity.

      • Meeks

        1 way into heaven, my good man. not my rules. its written.

      • who was it written by tho? Human men, so no matter what that bible is flawed.

      • Meeks

        im done explaining. especially when everything thats said is the same ol gibberish repeated by mindless non-believers.

      • and everything that said is repeated by “believers” so its no difference. and for the record i belive in god.. but the bible has been watered down for centuries… the roman emperor compiled it, and chose what was to be in it, so not only did a flawed human man write the bible, but a flawed human man compiled it and chose what stories are in it. lets not gloss over those important facts.

      • SBRon

        I’ve gone at it with a couple of cats on here in recent months trying to get these facts to sink in. They CHOOSE to gloss over anything that would put a “black eye” in their belief system…

      • i know.. and theres nothing wrong with loving god and praising jesus, but they have to remember to think for themsleves. because man is flawed. every man/women is… they tend to forget that.

      • and plus u gotta look at it like, god wants your undying loyalty.. well so does a con artist. u kno

      • Meeks

        you have been deceived in so many ways.. you believe every lie that you read / hear…. i see the lies clearly.. why does satan spread lies? to keep people from turning to God and accepting Jesus… to make the Word seem “watered down” so its not important…. and YOU eat it all up as if you havnt ate for days… n spread it like hot butter.

        dont say nobody ever told you when that day comes.

        God wrote the Bible through man.. man didnt write the Bible. theres facts in there that no man could have known. this is a fact.

        God Bless. Shalom.

      • really? because that was my own conclusion. i dont need to read other opinions. ok god wrote the bible right? but guess what?? the roman emperor compiled it as it is today and decided what went into it.. this is a fact. and god working thru man still involves man and man is flawed!!!

      • Meeks

        nothing i can tell you. wont waste my time if you really believe all this rubbish you spew.

        you know what Jesus did when he went to a city where nobody would listen to Him? He left.

      • do i belioev man is flawed? yes. so do you. did the roman emperor decide what to put in the bible? yes he did. you cant handle that? lol..

      • Meeks

        And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

        Rev. 22: 18-19

        God is the creator and keeper of His word.

        you cant handle that?

      • you see there it is, u quote the book that was written by a man, and compiled by a man. u have failed to think for yourself. and gues what the book in not complete because it was taken from in the 1st place by the roman emperor!!!

      • Meeks

        the Bible was written by the Holy Spirit.. in other words, it was written by God.. you have a hard time understanding this.
        again, there is facts in the Bible that no man could have possibly known in that time. and these are facts about the world and universe that we have just come to know and find out within the last couple hundred years to decades ago.

        again, you have been deceived and fail to understand which is why you are easily persuaded.

      • wheres the proof god wrote? oh because the book said so? thats it? and what facts?? and again u keep glossing over the fact of the roman emeror who decided what went into the bible.. does that scare you? i havent been deceived, my mind is open to all possibilties. and i see how many wars have been raged in the name of religion. the same passion u have is the same passion a muslim has, the same as a buhdist, and so on and so on. to me when god threatens non belivers that tells me he is slightly petty. love and understanding reigns supreme.

      • Meeks

        in how many more ways will you not understand that God is the creator and keeper of His word. i cant keep telling you.

        and facts that “science” just come to find out… why dont you look them up. its about air, stars, the ocean, earth, etc… theres many facts in the Book that would blow your mind cuz you have been fooled to stay away from it.

      • i understand that god is the creator, and i belive in god, and praise jesus, but everything isnt what it seems, the bible has been watered down, thru translation and the selection of what went into it that was made by the emperor. He literally tossed sections out of it that didnt fit with what he wanted the people of rome to act and think. you cant gloss over these FACTS!!! thats why its important to question everything and think for yourself!!

      • Meeks

        you are a mess. you need God. fully. not picking and choosing.

        You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you.

        Deut. 4:2

        But He answered and said, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.’”

        Matthew 4:4

      • I am with god. every passage in the bible was picked and chosen. not by god but by the roman emperor constatine. you have trouble understanding that

      • Meeks

        and never compare muslim and christians. we are not the same. muslims start wars over their religion and kill proudly.

        clean up your understanding. you are sloppy.

      • yes i know they are not the same, except we worrship the same exact god. and christians start wars to buddy cmon now. you are sloppy

      • Meeks

        christians start wars? please, list them. if you cant list them, then by all means, tell me the last war christians started.

      • ok the war we are in now.. started by the christans government for the consumption of oil. we have raped the lands of the muslims.

      • Meeks

        our government is not a christian gov’t. they are anti- christian. do not be deceived. they would like you to think they are christians, but too much proof that they are not. have you not noticed? or have you just not been paying attention.

        i knew you were going to think american gov’t is christian. thats a lie. and saw that coming from a mile away.

      • hey that could be the truth, but theres a lot of christian souljers on the field fighting that war for them. Thats why its important to think for yourself, like i said before, the governemnt uses that to make us do what they want, and the same could be tru of the bible. i hope that isnt tru, but u cant rule out that possibilty.

      • Meeks

        the gov’t is evil. whether there are chritian soliders or not doesnt make our gov’t a christian nation. we are more muslim than christian.

        why? because christians solider were ordered to stop witnessing christianity… meanwhile, muslim soliders are bowing down to muhammad in the white house….

      • you cant give complete faith in any man, or anything man made. the bible falls under this distinction, i know u will point to that bible quote, but what if a man wrote that just to decive you? put your faith in god and not in anything made upon earth by man. or even touched by man. just god and eternal love. i dont fear god i love god.

      • Meeks

        i have complete faith.. there is no doubt. what doubts you? the lies that made you doubt yourself.

        im saved, i have the Holy Spirit within me, so im not easily deceived. i see lies easily. lies that people believe fully without doubt, but they soon start questioning their “faith” in this lie.. that tells it all.

      • i have no doubt in myself. but i am aware i am a man, so i am not nor will ever be perfect. even you are not, and thats with the holy spirit inside of you, and you said the holy spitit wrote the bible, threw a man, kinda like how u have it in you and yet you are flawed.

      • Meeks

        i have the Holy Spirit within me. that comes with faith and being saved. God spoke directly through His Holy Spirit through the prophets and disciples to write His word. again, facts that man could not have possibly known were written thousands of years ago…. that man has just came around to knowing. thats not man.. thats God talking to us through the Holy Spirit through His chosen select few.

        were those prophets perfect? no. not at all, but God chose them to work through from being pleased with them.

      • and yet you are flawed. are so were the men he spoke thru/to… and again man certinly could have known what ever it is your are talking about, state a specific fact and ill tell u if man could have known that. there are some things that def interest me in those regards. like how water came on earth, thats very interesting but of course that still cant be proven today so thats still up in the air as to being a fact

      • Meeks

        for example, bottom of oceans has valleys and mountains.. the stars in the heavens are not numbered, the earth is round like a ball… and a bunch of other things, like light, etc…

        you still are not understanding how God wrote the Bible through man… this is critical in your journey in life. you need Gods word as much as you need food. its written and i already quoted that scripture for you.

      • well man has seen many a floods, knows that water can cover land and they can see how the terrain is above ground, so yes man could conclude that… if u look up you see tons of stars so yeah they def couldnt count them so thats something they could have very well known, the moon is round like a ball, so is other planets that are visable during certin times at night, so that can be concluded… i understand how god wrote the bible, thru a man… man is flawed. jesus, was also flawed, because he was a man. gods word is still in the bible, but its flawed thru the use of man to write it, meaning some of it can be false, (not to mention what happend after the bible was written, thru the roman emperor compiling the bible and picking and choosing what HE wanted in the bible and leaving other passages out, AND thru the many different translations of the bible, have u ever heard the term lost in translation? because there no doubt that when u go back and compare an english version with another some meaning change) I hope i have opened your eyes a little to the full spectrum of whats really going on. god has brought me here maybe to help you, and maybe vice versa, or we both helped each other a little bit.

      • Meeks

        open my eyes? this aint about me. you still dont get it. you are making excuses as to how they could have known when it was just as recent as a couple hundred years ago that the ocean bottom was believed to be flat… and the stars were believed to be numbered… and man didnt know light was a physical substance until recently… and man was still under the belief just as recent as the 1800s that the world was flat..

        now improv some more about how they could have known…

        im glad you hopped in your time machine, traveled back a couple thousand years and seen what they were living like so you knew what your average man knew and how they knew it.

        please, hop back in it, and tell me what color Jesus was and how was his hair, and if you could measure His height, that would be interesting. oh and dont forget His autograph.

      • im not making excuses for how they could have know IM TELLING YOU HOW THEY COULD HAVE KNOWN!!! belived to be flat by who?? lol… who belived the stars to be numbered? some random scientists that didnt know shit>> lol you cant speak to man as if they are all the same, individuals think different from each other… all it would take is one clever man who can look at the world and make his own conclusion, which hammers home my point of ALWAYS THINKING FOR YOUR SELF!!! you only helped make my point.. back then scientists didnt represent everyone and everyone didnt know about them and what they belived..

      • Meeks

        so you didnt even know that the info in the Bible was exclusive for a couple thousand years?

        you didnt know that man thought the earth was flat?? you didnt know that they thought there were only a couple thousand stars in the sky?, etc… i thought you were smarter than this.

        thanks for letting me know not to engage in anymore talk with you. the truth always comes out.

      • you keep talking in absolutes, like every man thought the same… nah, its not like that… do actuall research before u talk out of your ass. so u dont think they tried counting stars and found out theres much more? cause that all one person had to do to dispel that misconception, u didnt think they could count?? lol.. to be honest i didnt think u were that smart to begin with.. because u cant think for yourself.

      • Members of the Historical Association in 1945 stated that:

        The idea that educated men at the time of Columbus believed that the earth was flat, and that this belief was one of the obstacles to be overcome by Columbus before he could get his project sanctioned, remains one of the hardiest errors in teaching. During the early Middle Ages, virtually all scholars maintained the spherical viewpoint first expressed by the Ancient Greeks. From at least the 14th century, belief in a flat Earth among the educated was almost nonexistent, despite fanciful depictions in art, such as the exterior of Hieronymus Bosch’s famous triptych The Garden of Earthly Delights, in which a disc-shaped Earth is shown floating inside a transparent sphere.

      • Meeks

        yada yada. yada yada. get a clue. hopefully it aint too late. continue to make excuses to not believe because you think you know better. i spent way too much time on here.

      • i bet you think columbus was the 1st to travel across the ocean.. lol.. you live in the dark ages yo.. do research

      • Meeks

        that was very much on topic.

      • the mayans knew the world was round, they had calenders that are more accurate then we are with time today from calculating the orbits of the moon and earth around the sun… dumbass

      • keep god in your heart, not in your fears.

      • Meeks

        God is in my heart…. why wouldnt He be.

      • because the bible says you should fear him. i dont agree with that, i think you should love god.

      • Meeks

        you do fear God. you better fear God for what He can do to you. your life is in His hands.. and you dont fear whatGod can do to you? i fear Him…. i ask for forgiveness all the time, even when i don know if i did something wrong… thats fear for what He can do to you. but you obviously live for him because you love Him.

      • i dont belive in fearing god, i beilive in love. thats what evil people do, use fear to get what they want, i do not belive god to be that petty. i ask for forgiveness but not thru fear but because i dont want to disapoint those i love. but if a person is clearly evil or just scum and a horrible person they better fear god… if your heart is filled with love there is no room for fear.

      • Satchmo

        How about the crusades? The Spanish Inquisition? How many thousands of people have had to die for the bible? For the Qu’ran? For their beliefs? How many more have to before we see that it’s all for naught? Your comment about Muslim soldiers bowing and practicing their religion in the White House is out of line and inflammatory at best. You are trivializing soldiers and their fight by saying such things. There should always be a separation between religion and state (says so in the Constitution) yet we still swear on a bible in a court of law? Huh? 1/3 of the population believes in Christianity, 2/3 don’t. Thems the facts kid! Don’t believe me? Look it up! I might be able to find some couple hundred year old paper I could scribble it on if it would help you believe… I joke. Again, all good with your beliefs just don’t be so blind to other points of view..

      • and what facts?? The facts that you take at face value?

      • johnblacksad

        The TRUTH is not, can not, by definition, be exclusive to this book.

        A piece of the truth is still the truth

      • Black Jay

        And Beyonce sparked all of this from you? Damn you need a life.

    • johnblacksad

      You can not lack God… even if you wished to!

      Otherwise, it wouldn’t be God.

      • Meeks

        you lack Him by choice.

      • PBM1986

        And God is not a “Him”…

      • Meeks

        no? then show me scripture saying otherwise.. cuz i can show you a million scriptures referencing God as Him…

        you shouldnt talk with such certainty when you obviously dont know what you are talking about.

      • PBM1986

        The hebrew word for God is both masculine and feminine… You’re an idiot…

      • Meeks

        you really have no idea what you are talking about, huh… tell me more. tell me more about my Heavenly Father that i dont know.

      • Lorenzo Middleton

        The scriptures are written by man. Man is guilty of ego, ego is what got man to have you believe whatever is pushed into your head. Unless you have met God to know, how can you make such claims because that’s what you were taught? People are also taught the world was flat, Santa Clause is real, and that the tooth fair exists.

    • i_am_LOUD

      I am a atheist. I don’t see the anything wrong. Stop loving a fake god that white jesus. If your ancestors wasnt brought to America in a slave ship would you be believing that Christianty fairytale. Wake up free your mind there is no god

      • Jacob R.

        Seeing as many African nations also practice Christianity then yes its quite possible.

      • i_am_LOUD

        You are dumb stop replying to me

      • Jacob R.

        LOL how the hell is that dumb? You said they would not be Christian if their ancestors weren’t brought to America on a slave ship but what does that say for countries like Ethiopia which have a huge Orthodox Christian population?? aha ignorant retard.

    • Lorenzo Middleton

      The funniest part is when others assume that if one doesn’t believe in God that they’re an atheist. What makes you an Atheist is not believing in any supreme beings whatsoever. There are many religions which have supreme beings in which people follow and not believe in God in particular.

    • Sham Pu Keilyn

      god is black.

  • ihatefaggots

    This bum bitch is annoying.

  • RealAngel7

    I Love Jesus Christ, I Love The Holy Spirit and I Love Life. The illuminati is sheep, small thinkers who believe them are large, they come with little kids words and try to defend their opinions, if you do not agree with them you are stupid and further, those people are not as smart as they think and let them see themselves in the mirror, i will expose this people, you will see what you don’t see, the world does not need Secret child groups or the devil, Beyonce and Jay Z Is Illuminati clowns. The World Need Love, Freedom and Justice. Jesus Christ Is Real and Don’t Listen To Illuminati Sheep. People Never Wins and The Devil Never Wins, Only The Holy Spirit Who Wins. God Bless The World and All.

    • i_am_LOUD

      No you are the sheep. Believing all that bullshit. There is no god.

      • RealAngel7

        I Love Jesus Christ, I Love The Holy Spirit and I Love Life. I Will Love To See The Love Of The Holy Spirit Flow All Over The World With Love So Pure It Will Clean Up The World and Bless Up The World and I Will Love To See The Blood Of Jesus Christ Flow All Over This World. You Say You Are A Sheep, You Say You Are A Loud Sheep, I Think You Are Smarter Than What You Write, I Feel Sorry For You, I Have Read Much Of What You Said On This Page, You See I See Things Clearly, People Like You See Things 4 Sides, You’re Talking About Something You Do Not Know Anything About, Just What You Think You Know, People Will Have A Spiritual Awakening, You Think God Is 4 Sided, God Is Pure, God Sees Everything Clearly, God Is, Was and Forever Will Be. Freemasons Was Long Before Jesus Christ’s Time, People Who Are Like Illuminati Are Writing About In The Bible, Just Not By Name, You Are In A Time You Are Tested, People Will Open Up More and More, Jesus Christ Is True and Real, and The Devil is Real. You Know I Could Have Write Things That Go Deeper Into The History, People Like You Are Losing and God Does Not Want This World So 4 Sides As It Is, But It Is Humans Created With The Free Will They Was Born With. Things Change Throughout History and When you die, your soul Goes Through The Body. You Decide How You Want To Live Life For Yourself, You Learn and Live, When You Learn To Live, Things Are Not So 4 Sides As You Think. God Bless The World and God Bless All.

      • meanygreene

        ever heard of the exorcist?

  • richard_b_hard

    I thought beyonce was GOD! You mean to ttell me I have been deceived???
    Heavens noooooooooooooo!

  • johnblacksad

    The Bible, everything that’s in it, and everything that’s not in it… leads to God.

    God can not be witheld within a few thousand pages… all paths lead not to Rome but to Him!

    Everything is everything like my man Cappadonna said!

    Peace

  • shes so talented… even thou she needs 10 producers and 7 writers for each song… even tho the song lyrics are some dumbed down repetitiveness.. lol OVERRATED

  • brotha_man

    A man has the right to change his name to vatever he vants to change it to. And if a man vants to be called Muhammad Ali, godammit this is a free country, you should respect his vishes, and call the man Muhammad Ali!

    Saul “coming to america”

    • >> In Ali’s voice to Frazier :
      “What’s my Name?”
      >> Stiff Jab
      “What’s my NAME?”
      >> Two more stiff jabs land
      “What’s my NAME? Say it!! C’mon SAY IT! Moo-Hum-MAD Ahh-LEE!”
      >>Two more stiff jabs land followed by devastating str8 right, left hook combo

      Muhammad Ali “The Thrilla In Manilla”

  • Kevin Anthony

    Who am I? a mere mortal, Jesus is Love. I can’t judge this woman. Kevin Anthony-21 soundcloud . c o m

    • #IJS

      She took Big’s “It’s All A Dream” ( I used to read “Word Up” magazine ) Juicy
      & made the phrase ALLA (Ala, Alah, Ela, Elohim, etc.) (*Schoefield’s Bible 1st *Edition…..they made him change it years later after seeing Alah, long after they had advertised it as the most accurate translation ever. (The notes )

      It’s no secret they are dissing GOD, why is the question?
      Maybe if it was JUST the last supper, but the BIGGie (Subliminal) is a tad bit too coincidental to be a coincidence, IMHO.
      YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)

      • Kevin Anthony

        Ha! Yea I feel u bro..I dont know what to make of it..nobody can fool God though Ed. We live in crazy times man so anything is possible. Im a fan of her work, I just hope she keep giving us good music..who knows what she going thru behind the scenes u feel me..

      • No doubt!

        She puts on a helluva show!

  • i_am_LOUD

    Who cares aint no god anyways people always getting mad over nonsense

    • RealAngel7

      I Love Jesus Christ, I Love The Holy Spirit and I Love Life. I Will Love To See The Love Of The Holy Spirit Flow All Over The World With Love So Pure It Will Clean Up The World and Bless Up The World and I Will Love To See The Blood Of Jesus Christ Flow All Over This World. You Should Think About What You Say Before You Say It, You Say You Are A Sheep, You Say You Are A Loud Sheep, I Think You Are Smarter Than What You Write, I Feel Sorry For You, I Have Read Much Of What You Said On This Page, You See I See Things Clearly, People Like You See Things 4 Sides, You’re Talking About Something You Do Not Know Anything About, Just What You Think You Know, People Will Have A Spiritual Awakening, You Think God Is 4 Sided, God Is Pure, God Sees Everything Clearly, God Is, Was and Forever Will Be. Freemasons Was Long Before Jesus Christ’s Time, People Who Are Like Illuminati Are Writing About In The Bible, Just Not By Name, You Are In A Time You Are Tested, People Will Open Up More and More, Jesus Christ Is True and Real, and The Devil is Real. You Know I Could Have Write Things That Go Deeper Into The History, People Like You Are Losing and God Does Not Want This World So 4 Sides As It Is, But It Is Humans Created With The Free Will They Was Born With. Things Change Throughout History and When you die, your soul Goes Through The Body. You Decide How You Want To Live Life For Yourself, You Learn and Live, When You Learn To Live, Things Are Not So 4 Sides As You Think. God Bless The World and God Bless All.

  • KingsCountyCrooklyn

    did’nt know they had table strippers at the last supper…Since she blocking white jesus I wonder if he had a smile on his face…..

  • Kierra Jenkins

    Why everybody trying be Jesus and not buddha, allah or the pope? And always uses his name in vain? Oh yeah its because He’s real. Jesus is mentioned in all religion s and can’t be denied. He is the only God that is constantly attacked along with His followers WORLDWIDE. This was very disrespectful as usual therefore I don’t listen or follow secular music b/c it controls your thoughts & actions that Jesus does not approve of point blank #TeamJesus. # He’stheJudge #HeLovesAll #heforgivesAll

  • Freshly Snipes

    um Jesus is not everyones version of God…and Beyonce is almost talented but not quite so we really shouldnt give two cents abt this ?? Allhiphop fails again