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Buckshot & Ebro Have Heated Debate About Hip Hop Radio, Battle Rap & "Minor Artists"


(AllHipHop News) Back in December, Black Moon member Buckshot called out Hot 97’s program director Ebro Darden on the Combat Jack Show. Buck’s issues with Darden stemmed from the radio personality’s comments about his Duck Down crew made on an earlier CBJ show.

During his interview, Buck not only took offense to Ebro’s statements, but also said Ebro “f**ked up” New York Hip Hop and called him an “Uncle Tom.”

[ALSO READ: Buckshot Addresses Hot 97′s Ebro Darden & The Current State Of NYC Radio]

The two finally sat down face-to-face to discuss the incident. According to Buck, it was Ebro saying that his music and shows do not appeal to women and the misuse of his power as a gatekeeper to the masses is what bothered him the most.

“See, you hold a lot of power,” Buck tells Ebro. “Your criteria of what it takes to become a star today – that wouldn’t have made a Biggie, that wouldn’t have made a whole bunch of emcees.”

Ebro’s response is that in order to reach a certain level of success rappers have to include melodic elements into their music in order to attract a female audience. He cites The Notorious B.I.G collaborating with and sampling R&B singers as an example.

The conversation gets heated as both men attempt to make points about why mainstream radio is or is not failing at the moment and the idea of “minor artists” versus “major artists.”

[ALSO READ: Hot 97′s Ebro Darden Appears On Combat Jack Show]

Watch Buckshot and Ebro debate Hip Hop radio, the ability to break records, battle rap, DJs vs emcees, and more in the video below.

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  • MrNoName2K

    Cant no one tell Buckshot sh*t..it was a pretty good debate though

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  • Sinbk Legend

    I don’t know why NY rap niggaz go back and forth with that dude…FUKK Ebro! They argue with this lame from the west coast and at the end of the day he still will say fukk new York music. …I don’t know how you hire someone from another coast to determine another regions music play list anyway

    • SBRon

      Yep, ULTIMATE FAIL…

  • ItsMrStealYourComment

    Ebro needs to go..true story

  • KurtNiceHHL

    Everytime Ebro speaks he puts another nail in the coffin of Hot 97 and rap radio in general. This dude pretends to know about Hip Hop but he’s really just a sellout for mainstream ideology, suckerism and a dead format.

  • ItsMrStealYourComment

    Really vlad?…Your comment is awaiting moderation.

  • KurtNiceHHL

    Deejays and radio fucked up Hip Hop. Continually spinning whack niggas and puttin bombs on it, pretending cornballs are hot.

  • KurtNiceHHL

    Buckshot trying to sell his shoes so he really didn’t go in.

  • KurtNiceHHL

    Somebody gotta ask Ebro how it feels to preside over the decline of Hip Hop radio. What is there to be proud of in a job like that, a weekly check with no pension? When the station is long gone, Ebro’s name will be carved in the history books as one of them niggas that was at the wheel when the shit crashed.

    • D. Rose in the paint

      true…..and you can add Charlamagne in that batch….he is hip-hop hater as well….NY needs to give these niggas the boot

      • Traestar

        I do like Charlamagne over Ebro tho, he do make good points on different issues, especially with Kanye. And he’s not afraid to ask question or rant in front of you, he’s hurt alot of people’s feelings in the past. But then that same mouth of his made him look stupid as well.

  • ANDRE SALAZAR

    Buckshot’s a god MC & responsible for a lot of artists getting their shot back in the ’90s into the 2000’s!! Ebro represents the decline in urban music on the radio & the forward movement of the talentless artist. Ebro enjoys his power & classifying artists based on ridiculous criteria that doesn’t apply equally to each individual participant. He’s ready to suck Rick Ross’ dick or Khalid but they haven’t put in the work that Buckshot has to earn the type of respect Ebro adorns on them regularly, but shows “0” respect to Buckshot in his own town??!! #blasphemy #whack Also, Buckshot proves that you don’t need a major-label to remain relevant & make money while maintaining a relevant brand (e.g. Black Moon still relevant; Sean Price still relevant; Duck Down Records still open making money INDEPENDENTLY since ’92!!!

  • Black Jay

    Man…. Ebro be on some sh*t….. I can’t stand this dude. Which means he’s probably doing the job that Hot 97 paid him to do. Hahahahaha. This is a paid hater. Bottom line. Instigator supreme.

    • superh8

      True dat

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  • Polecat

    DJs did f*ck hip hop up playing that garbage non stop in the club, I agree..# get to know me better at reverb nation/ Novacane 1

  • Papi Peligro

    Man this was real. I feel both sides. Ebro right though. Cause these dudes need to work. KANYE WEST NEEDS TO WORK.

  • Truth Powell

    Buckshot gotta send Sean Price to knuckle down Ebro.
    Buckshot is right. With Ebro’s and the industry’s attitude at the moment we would have never have had Nas, Biggie, Wu Tang, Common, etc. Cuz even tho those artists dabbled in the softer sounds since, they got on the map and built their legends off the raw shit.

  • disqus_wP9qaQP4Hv

    Camera in the face and people start tripping. The amount of time he used my nig.a just put me off 4 minutes into it. Choice or words sometimes. Now i see how that camera in your face is as bad as the internet or thumb thugs. Its called Camera thugs, Ha!

    • Tre C

      You clearly don’t know what “acronym” means

      • disqus_wP9qaQP4Hv

        Okay please Teach. Allhiphop lecturer 🙂

      • Tre C

        no need, just use words you understand.

  • FRUKOH

    Troll_E_G is a fag!!!!!

  • brotha_man

    dont like ebro but he keeps us debating hiphop and he keeps it more hiphop than this website as of late.

    ebro = don lemon of hip hop
    “ebro saying he made hov, made hov say ok so make another hov”
    I guess we all should thank ebro for making artist…i swear NYC act lame as hell sometimes.

  • Very interesting….at least we know where authentic New York Hip Hop went….and sorry Ebo I personally know niggas paying to be played on both Hot 97 n Power 105 mix shows. You will never put people like Dyme a Duzin, Joey Badass, Currensy, Etc. or any NYC artist on rotation…if u guys pay attention it’s only on a mix show. You can’t determine what the people or us ladies want to hear when ur trying to dictate what u think we like…..There’s a reason independent music represents 15% of sales and the majors have been diminished til the point there’s only 3 major labels that umbrellas everything else. I truly do admire Ebro as an individual however u can’t be a NYC music director playing hardly anything from the city u representing. Hot 97 would not be hot 97 if u guys were not known from the 90’s as the place where new sound can be heard whether r&b, hardcore, or club hits….u would have denied us Wu tang, Nas, Common, Taliban, MOP, Smooth the Hustla, etc. And yes I’m a woman and these are not “woman” music but they appealed to me and inspire me….so please unless u wear spanks, don’t be a sexist by trying to dictate what women want….we want NYC to be the trendsetters we are known for….I don’t care to the same southern artist all day, we know the major labels keep u guys a flow hence why u don’t play indie and don’t respect the movement enough to break a record not affiliated with a major….But please coming from a true hip hop head don’t try to tell “We The People” what we want to hear.

    • Traestar

      This right here I want Ebro to see, this would straight play him

  • Future Patrick

    Unless I heard wrong, Ebro just co-signed what Buck been saying all along….In one breathe Bro states that the WHOLE station moves as a UNIT….then he says, “If I say it aint moving, it don’t move.” So, how he gonna talk about unity at the station but then say he has the final word?????

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  • maya

    Cute sneakers.

  • matown2

    ITS OFFICIAL NY Hip Hop will never be on top again THEY GOT TOO MUCH INTERNAL CONFLICT GOIN ON

    • maya

      Conflict brings creativity. The only problem with New York is that the rent is too damn high.

    • ihatefaggots

      This uncle tom ebro is not a new Yorker

      • Arrie Mental Woodard

        where the hell is his bitch ass from anyway? dude is a straight sucker!.

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  • Slaughtr

    New York hip hop has not gone anywhere just some uncle remis ass negroes destroying the game with todays bullshyt. I’m wit buck all day and to be honest I haven’t bought shyt for years……the new rappers aren’t fazing me, and saying nothing. Payola been kickin ass for years it’s at a all time high and it’s kept quiet but needs to be put on blast and stop creating fake ass hip hop stars. Again most are rappers not MC’s so now we have rap music not hip hop. For anybody who feels passionate about hip hop and what it really reps I applaud you for still speaking on this shyt because really it’s headed toward extinction. If you put yourself in my shoes a young budding MC at 12 years old the radio was the shyt now it’s become shyt. I respect and big up Lamar because he woke some of you rap negroes up and all the responses were not needed because most should have been real with hip hop since day one. Fck the radio!!!! and fake ass wannabe thorough rappers…. give me some content and fck your money!.

  • Frank

    I ain’t listen the fcking radio since I was a Lil boy. I’ll be old wit my CD’s. Open the package n shit. Read the fcking thing like a story n shit. Man FCK radio.

  • Pierre Elliott

    PEOPLE THIS IS WHAT THEY DID TO ALL OF OUR STATIONS ACROSS AMERICA-
    IT AINT JUST NY, ITS CHI LA BOSTON PHILLY——-ALL WE GET IS RADIO JUKE JIVIN STEPIN FETCHIT JUNGLE WHITE APPROVED NlGGER SWILL.

    LOOK AT MAINO–HE CHANGED UP HIS STYLE TO GET ON—NOW HE AND THE REST OF YOU DlCK RIDERS LOOK STUPID——-

    ANY OF YOU DUDES THINK HA EVEN THINK NY HIP HOP IS DONE YOU STUPID-
    FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NYC NOT TEXAS NOT ATL NOT INDIANA NOT MIAMI.

    THIS IS AND WILL *FOREVER* YOU HEAR ME ***FOREVER BE THE GROUND ZERO
    FOR HIP HOP**** NOT RAP.

    THERE ARE SO MANY ARTISTS FROM THE SOUTH NORTH EAST AND WEST THAT ARE ***NOT***GETTING AIRPLAY—–

    THEY HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE 1997 IN NYC—-

    EBRO——–FROM WHAT I HEAR IN THE STREETS, YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED AS DIRECTOR AND SOME OTHER HEADS IS GETTING PUT TO BED AS WE SPEAK-

    THERES A NEW DAY EMERGING IN NYC HIP HOP—-FROM THE BRONX TO SHAOLIN——ITS ABOUT TO BE AN ONSLAUGHT.

    AND ALL YOUR DANCING AND TRAP AND STRIPPERS WONT BE ABLE TO SAVE U

    __queens run rap, ask Russel Simmons—-NAS ( Ether )

    • ImDrunkNwillTROLLu

      he never said queens run rap he said “Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons”

      • Pierre Elliott

        I LIVE IN NYC I WAS THERE AT 1212 PLAYIN SEGA GENESIS PLAYIN MADDEN BETTIN JAM MASTER JAY 20$ A GAME—
        WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT GERTZ MALL DICK RIDE ASS NlGGA..??

        NlGGA I LIVE AND LIVED THIS——YOU A LOSER LOOKING TO SUCK C0CK FOR INTERNET LIFE.

        LIKE NAS SAID AND CHECK THE 9th WONDER REMIX OF ETHER

        ******QUEENS RUN RAP—-ASK RUSSEL SIMMONS*******

        BlTCH

        SHUT THE FCUK UP–DICK RIDE IN A CAN ASS NlGGA

      • ImDrunkNwillTROLLu

        if what u say is true, that would put you in the 30+ year old bracket, you should of matured by now, yet you talk like you are 14 trying to be hard…

      • Pierre Elliott

        SHUT THE FCUK UP TROLL

      • ImDrunkNwillTROLLu

        the thing is i wasnt even trying to troll you, you just trolled your self

      • Pierre Elliott

        *penalty* 5 Yards FOR MINDLESS DUMBSHlT

  • ebro always speaking the truth.

    • drac215

      Yeah youre right, hes basically saying do what I say and youll be a star!!! If you knew any better, you would know the foundation of hiphop is be yaself and rep where you come from and what you are. Seems like he wants everyone to do what he says, lmao!!!!!!!!!! Get ya hiphop up bro, peace

  • I don’t know ANYBODY that listens to that station anymore! And I don’t know 1 person with that Hot 97 app or Flex’s app let alone listens to music on those app’s. SMH! Who are they lying too? I know a whole bunch of people with Pandora and Spotify though. I’m sure there’s some peanut brains that believe his nonsense too. SMH! They think they rule Hip Hop… And not just in NY either. SMFH! Ebro was defensive like a motherf*cker because the truth hurts. You can not continue to force feed trash music to the city and alienate a whole age bracket while the “radio director” acts like a dictator. That’s a recipe for failure. It’s time for new DJ’s that actually break records and supports their own city. If you notice, this is all he talks about because the pressure is getting to him. He has nothing else to talk about. I guess this is his attempt at a last stand. I’m sure he’ll act like he was doing something for the city when they fire him and call EVERYBODY tired of him ungrateful… LMAO.

  • radio is dying,its getting swallowed by satellite radio and the internet..i dont know why cats are complaining in NY,if chief keef can do it without radio y’all niggas for damn sure can x10…southern fans support southern artist…can you say the same for east coast??

    • Arrie Mental Woodard

      thats the whole point fam, its not that buckshot needs radio. DuckDown has maintained relevency by touring and putting out good product but at the same time there should be hometown love shown. Southern fans support southern artists.. true indeed but southern radio supports southern artist first and foremost…. my man Trae the truth got banned from houston radio for a long ass time but now they are embracing him again. NY needs to support everyone including their own.

      • just like in the east,southern radio supports only mainstream sh!t
        now,im down in louisiana there used to be a time where you would also hear local sh!t on the radio but that’s dead and gone now just like in the east….in louisiana i remember back in the day when the east was running mainstream,thats all you would hear on the radio was music from the east,but they would also play local southern sh!t,they don’t do that anymore,so it might seem like southern radio is supporting southern artist but that’s only because southern music is running mainstream just like the east did back in the day..radio nationwide ain’t messing with that local sh!t…

      • Pierre Elliott

        SPEAK THE TRUTH—CAUSE WE ALL GETTING HATED ON.

  • drac215

    What cracks me up is these “kids” come out of no where and give themselves a title like “program director,manager,ceo,etc… Buckshot and bootcamp put in work in the streets,clubs,cities across the world(im from philly and my crew was bootcamp crazy wit maad chicks wit us!!! Now they home caring for the kids while we at the shows!!!). How this suburban corporate kid with no credentials get to ask questions like hes ever did anything creative in his life!?! Cats like these wasnt excepted and was quiet as a mouse when we came up in the early eighties/nineties, now cause they figured out how to make$$$ they think they really control it, lmao!!! In these streets where trends really start off, hes(elmo/emu,ebro(electronic brother???) never there, he just creates his fake world via power(tv,radio,internet,etc…) from the big wigs(clear channel(mtv,bet,vh1,hot97,interscope.etc…they all connected) hes a slave to. Jesus is hiphop!!! peace

    • MADNEWYORKER914

      That’s what happens when white people and corporate America gets involved with our schitt!!!

  • drac215

    He said we got a plan,a protocol? That means we have a program for you peoples. Who writes this protocol(a mountain climber who plays an electric guitar?) dude you and ya bosses are fake. He changes his voice for the radio(madd growling nigga) then in meetings(well spoken hispanic/white person who hates niggas but live off their craft) damn ebro(electronic brother) peace

    • Arrie Mental Woodard

      Nice Gza reference homie… 215 to the death!!!

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  • AlbertoRipRon

    I know shortys that get into the hip hop and they don’t need R&B to get them to listen. They played themselves.

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  • MADNEWYORKER914

    “BUCK” told the truth!!! Not just Ebro, but Flex and a number of other has phukkked up New York radio. That’s a damn shame!!! If it wasn’t for New York radio, than a lot of these other stations around the country wouldn’t be doing the schitt that they’re doing these days!!!

  • MADNEWYORKER914

    New York radio hasn’t been the same ever since DJ Red Alert, Marly Mal, Mr. Magic, Chuck Chillout, and Kid Capri (Kid Capri radio show on WBLS) left the airwaves!!! New York radio is phukkked up right now!!!

    • Pierre Elliott

      YEPPPPPPP

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