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Holy Hip-Hop: Hostile Gospel
Published Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:05 PM
By Deepa Shah
Holy Hip-Hop – it is not just for the deeply religious and positive thinking. Today, rappers from the mainstream are moving away from the secular and reconnecting with a Christian faith that was once just a hush-hush topic in Hip-Hop circles. With a Rap community that is filled with misogyny, drug and alcohol abuse, and endless violence, Hip-Hop's need for a balance has turned many listeners and artists back to their faith in order to reconcile a society's turmoil.


Former Three 6 Mafia member Mr. Del, rapper Shawn Pen (formerly Lil Shawn) and producer Rockwilder are just a few prominent names who have recently revamped their music into Christian Rap. And smaller and up-and-coming artists like 2Five are still fueling the Christian Rap movement with their own brand of in your face preaching.


The integration of Christian values within the realm of Hip-Hop isn't a new concept. Tupac nearly put himself on a pedestal right next to (and even above) Jesus himself as he filled his music with images of himself leading his disciples to a better life. On the cover of his first posthumous record, The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, the image of Tupac nailed to a cross pinned him as a Hip-Hop martyr. Though Tupac used his thug image to come off as a gangster to be reckoned with, he always portrayed himself as a "Black Jesus."

"In times of war we need somebody raw, rally the troops/Like a Saint that we can trust to help to carry us through/Black Jesus He's like a Saint that we can trust to help to carry us through," rapped Tupac on The Outlawz’ “Black Jesuz.” Tupac's connection with Christian and Muslim ideas is an obvious part of his upbringing; as a son of the Black Panther, he took his personal struggles to the street and found solace in his faith. His music relayed himself as a warrior of God just trying to make it in this world.




As Tupac took a no holds bar approach to his music, other well-known artists have flirted with ideas of Christianity in their music. MC Hammer took off as a pop star joke in the 90s, but even after the fame of "U Can't Touch This," Hammer's biggest US hit was his Christian-infused song "Pray" (peaking at #2 on the Billboard Charts). Hammer even went on to start a short-lived pastoral career – the truth remains even after being Hip-Hop's punch line, MC Hammer wasn't afraid to out his Christian side ("up" was the only direction for him to go at that point).

[MC Hammer "Pray"]



Even the dawg himself, DMX has fluttered between his street cred and Christianity to come to new terms musically. In 2006, DMX released the Scott Storch produced "Lord Give Me A Sign," calling out to Jesus as his savior. "In the name of Jesus/Devil I rebuke you for what I go through/For trying to make me do what I used to." While Tupac infused his music with the whole world around him (druggin', bangin', hoochin', and believin'), it begs the question, does a few Christian themed songs make you a real Christian artist? Today, more and more Hip-Hop artists are not only being "saved," but they are also bringing their Christian values to the forefront of the music.


http://allhiphop.com/photos/blog_pictures/images/19752970/290x375.aspxWhen Memphis-based Three 6 Mafia hit the scene, Hip-Hop was taken by storm with the group's new brand on "crunk" music. With chart-topping albums and nationwide exposure, Mr. Del was getting ready to release his own solo album when his musical career and personal faith took a turn.


"While sitting in service not really paying attention, God spoke to me and said, 'Come out and I want you to do exactly what you're doing now but do it for me,'" Mr. Del says. "My response to God was you have to take care of me and he said, 'Trust me.' So, I have been rolling with God every since."


But bringing faith into his music didn't change Mr. Del's love for Hip-Hop. "I came from Three 6 Mafia, and I was able to bring the same passion and drive to what I'm doing now which makes me different from the norm."


[Mr. Del “U Can Do It 2”]



Today, Mr. Del heads up The Holy South Movement – his own musical imprint. Pushing aside the idea of the "Dirty South," Mr. Del started his faith-based record label in attempt to allow artists with a heavy Christian backdrop to shine musically, and to bring the idea of the "Holy" South back into mainstream Hip-Hop. "Hip-Hop currently lacks substance and the Holy Hip-Hop movement can provide that substance through God's anointing," Mr. Del says.


http://allhiphop.com/photos/blog_pictures/images/19752994/290x375.aspxWhen you lose faith in the streets and everything you knew growing up, where do you turn? For Shawn Pen, rekindling his faith was the next best step for him to grow personally and musically. Shawn Pen went from rapping about his pimp status and gangsta lifestyle on his 1992 album The Voice In The Mirror, to serving a five-year federal prison sentence. With a hit Notorious B.I.G. collaboration, "Dom Perignon," turning his music towards faith was never expected.

"Coming home after a five-year Federal stretch, I lost all faith in the streets after being snitched on by street dudes who I considered close friends," Shawn Pen says. "Also, I personally didn't feel right being a negative influence lyrically to the many kids that listen, love and purchase the music."


But for Shawn Pen it wasn't just a change in ideology that led him back to religion – it had always been a part of him. "When I was in the streets getting money, I always had a foot in the music industry. What they knew of me personally never coincided with the music I made because the two were so night and day."


Christian rap music has in some form or another always been part of the Hip-Hop community (does anyyone remember Sketch and Frankie's choir rap "Are You Down With G.O.D." from Sister Act 2?) – unfortunately, it's been easier for record labels to promote profanity and music with high production value. "The spotlight is put on the only thing we have and that is the glorification of where most of us come from," Shawn Pen says. And that's where Christian rap artists like Shawn Pen take a stand and start rapping about what they know best, and that's God. "The reason why there's a wedge between Gospel rap and secular rap at radio is because one didn't keep up with the other when it came to the production and the rapper's flow causing it to fall short in quality," he says. "All it is, is positive."


Hear it right, Christian Rap is a movement of its own. Some may say its gaining popularity because of listeners' boredom with mainstream rap, but the music does have its own following. It is a different world of artists who are accepting their personal faith and spreading positive values through God. Shawn Pen's not a perfect man with a clean record (and who really is these days?). "The kids in my neighborhood knew me for three things: rap, coke and jail. Now, they still respect me on many different levels because they've seen me ball, fall, leave and return with encouraging words about staying in school, remaining sucker free and doing it legally."


http://allhiphop.com/photos/blog_pictures/images/19752985/secondarythumb.aspxIn the same realm, rapper 2Five has been coming up in the industry as a heavyweight Christian artist, but for him, it's not about pushing religious values onto others; instead, he's using Hip-Hop as a platform to spread his message of savior. "Gospel rap tends to cater to the 'already saved' where as I've been called to reach out to the streets, the broken, the lost, etcetera," 2Five says.


So many from the Hip-Hop community, including artists and audience, are stuck in this 'hood mentally where "making it" means reaching a goal by any means necessary. Today's mainstream rap music has cultivated the ideals of the street gangsta, but that's where Christian-themed rap music comes in to foster a new way life. Current Hip-Hop is "in a state of denial," says 2Five. "It lacks substance lyrically, musically. The passion to do it is found in what some folk can get out of you with their nonsense, instead of pouring something good into your life. The wack ones won't admit it 'cause it's working for them right now."

[2Five  “We Won’t Stop”]



Christianity within any music is viewed as a taboo subject, the only acceptable form being Gospel. Specifically within Hip-Hop, Christian values as a basis for music is seen as a weakness, and a dependence on faith is only for Christians, an opinion 2Five disagrees with. "The contemporary Christian music market and Christians in general keep calling it 'Christian/Gospel Rap,' therefore it means they only want Christians to buy it!" 2Five says. "How dumb is that when we're supposed to reach the lost?"


And while 2Five uses his music to give hope to those lost in negative values of the streets, Christian Rap music is slowly finding acceptance within Hip-Hop. "In the past, HHH has not met nor exceeded standards for quality, talent, creativity, and basic uniqueness," 2Five says.


In 2002, KRS-One's released gospel rap album Spiritual Minded, which failed to break any musical barriers, but a mere two years later, Kanye West took the mainstream by storm with "Jesus Walks" proving that religious ideas within Hip-Hop have a place and production value doesn't have to suffer because of it. Today, that's all changing as we see bigger names entering the Christian Rap realm. Grammy Award winning producer Rockwilder is giving mainstream Hip-Hop a rest and taking his music back to his roots in church as he works with new Christian artists, and even DMX plans on taking another stab with his upcoming gospel rap double album Walk With Me Now and You'll Fly With Me Later.

[Kanye West “Jesus Walks”]



So even though the future of Christian Rap is unknown, it is fact that this branch of Hip-Hop is not just another form of art. Christian Rap is a movement that has embraced many of the fallen, but will this music save the current state of Hip-Hop from destroying itself? Maybe, but only when Christian Rap is accepted fully and integrated into the community as a norm. "[We need to] start calling it Hip-Hop with a message," 2Five says. "[And start to] embrace and foster positive relationships with our communities instead of pushing religion."


As Christian Rap barrels through the boundaries of mainstream Hip-Hop, more and more artists are using faith to serve a positive message to a community in dire need of saving. It's time for Hip-Hop as a community to stop glorifying violence and materialism, and what better way than using the common ideals of religion for an audience to relate to? For a musical genre branded with a bad rap, Christian Rap may be able to break this negative cycle. Hip-Hop could be on the verge of musical resurrection with a faithful backing.


Comments

 

j.johnson said:

shouts out to the Cross Movement...they been holding it down for years on the gospel hip hop...they can really go too!
April 29, 2008 1:21 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

April 29, 2008 1:26 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

116 clique
April 29, 2008 1:27 PM
 

ReppnKing said:

That's what's up. "The whole dang world need Jesus".

To the previous comment, I thought this movement was about the message of the cross? I assume you're Christian, one of yours (2five) on here repping the movement yet it seems like the same old who's better routine, name dropping etc. This is how you rep the cross. Showing your hearts.  Seems that you wish it was your preference instead of Jesus being pushed here, seems like you want your favorite rappers pushed homie.  

Shout out to 2five and all  others for repping the cross. And all other artist's who's down with that movement. Hip Hop needs this.
April 29, 2008 1:44 PM
 

chocolaterain said:

Da' T.R.U.T.H is the dude u wanna check out. Have all his albums
April 29, 2008 1:46 PM
 

ReppnKing said:

SMH at stan Christians just trying push their favorite artist.
April 29, 2008 1:54 PM
 

illseed said:

christian hip hoppers are iller that like 99.9% of all rappers out. whats even better is their message is very much apart of the music as opposed to when DC Talk and them were around. its like hip hop when it first started. talking about the facts and reality of life, from their point of view.
April 29, 2008 1:54 PM
 

ReppnKing said:

Word to Illseed. He knows what he talking about.
You're right Illseed. the stories aren't fabricated to just sell music. It's from he heart and their lives, like when Hip Hop first started. You know your music Illseed.
April 29, 2008 1:59 PM
 

bigty79 said:

Illseed, that was on point.
April 29, 2008 2:20 PM
 

doeboi5000 said:

yall forgot to mention Bizzy Bone...he reps God/Jesus all day in his music now..
April 29, 2008 2:22 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

ReppnKing said:
That's what's up. "The whole dang world need Jesus".

To the previous comment, I thought this movement was about the message of the cross? I assume you're Christian, one of yours (2five) on here repping the movement yet it seems like the same old who's better routine, name dropping etc. This is how you rep the cross. Showing your hearts.  Seems that you wish it was your preference instead of Jesus being pushed here, seems like you want your favorite rappers pushed homie.  

Shout out to 2five and all  others for repping the cross. And all other artist's who's down with that movement. Hip Hop needs this.  
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First, Homie Understand that I just want people to know that there isin't just a few Christian Rappers... I chose LeCrae because his music is simply better that 2five... I used to be frustrated when I was growing up because people wanted me to listen to Christian rap.. I wanted to as well but all the MC's were wack.... Lecrae has a flow that is unmatched in the Gospel Rap game.. So here's my question to you.. I'm going to introduce you to Hip Hop and you've never listened to it before.. Do I bring you a Jay-Z CD or Vanilla Ice???  And I'm not saying 2five is the worst but Lacrae is easier to listen to.. His flow is on point.. I get bored if you have a week flow.. That's just how it is. I don't care what you're rapping about..

You know just as well as i do that in Rap it's about your delivery.. That's the difference between the best and the worst.. You can say great things but if you can't make them sound good then no one is going to listen...So keep it real...

Now Back to Lacrae I shouted him.. Also because many people don't know about him.. he is a truly Spirit filled Christian and God has blessed him with the gifts to be able to give us a message through his music..

if you don't like my post then don't read it...  

And to call someone a stan... hahaaha... Do you know what a Stan is??? You seem to be an IllSeed stan...




I'm gonna pray for you...
April 29, 2008 2:23 PM
 

bigty79 said:

JJGREENIS, come on champ, Christ is bigger than that cuzzo.
April 29, 2008 2:33 PM
 

bigty79 said:

Leave the bickering to Lebron and Deshawn.lol
April 29, 2008 2:36 PM
 

ReppnKing said:

jjgreenis

So u couldn't make the other artist known without competition?
You know well those Christian brothers aren't about that, yet you create an unwarranted perspective of what their music isn't about. Both 2Five & othes will disagree with your stance here.
I think it's pointless to discuss this with you cause you presupposed what you did is right, so right on.

I doubt, your will sincerely pray for me with the pride and ignorance you're displaying on here. God bless bro

April 29, 2008 2:43 PM
 

iymanni said:

YO THERE NO REASSON FOR US AS CHISTIANS TO FIGHT ABOUT WHOS BETTER WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN POINTS ON THAT SO LET'S NOT GET WORLDLY!!!!!!!!!!!! THE POINT OF THE MATTER IS THAT BOTH ARTIS ARE REPPING CHIST IN AT THE END OF THE DAY THATS ALL THAT MATTERS YEA THERE ARE MANY GREAT HHH OUT THERE ,BUT WE HAVE TO STAY IN UNITY TO GET THE WORD OF GOD OUT THERE .........SO ON THAT NOTE LET,S ALL GO AND REP CHIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 29, 2008 2:52 PM
 

K.r.u.n.k.y said:

cant not respect dmx, 2five and the others
April 29, 2008 2:55 PM
 

what.it.iz said:

Great article and well said. Of coarse it's not going to name all Holy Hip Hop artists, I've never even heard of Shawn Penn but praise God for em'! Saying your favorite is better than those mentioned is hating on the point of this whole article and is clearly your own opinion. I can name many that could've got mentioned but thats not the point.
Again, good write up, keep em' coming!
April 29, 2008 2:59 PM
 

Esq. of LastLeveL said:

I hate the phrase 'Gospel Rap.' Always have, to me, Hip Hop is Hip Hop. Whether west coast, east coast, midwest, no matter the preference Hip Hop is what it is. I feel like classifying someone as a 'Gospel Rap Artist' is really placing a limit on the creativity as to say, 'this is all I'm about.' And in reality, that's why the market (Gospel Rap) has yet to truly flourish. I've SOME artist shatter that mold and come with concepts that were just phenomenal, with ill lyrical and great conceptual. (no pun intented) For those who still feel like talking about religion is corny, they'll never give it a chance. Most people, black, white, purple, or blue, don't won't give a 'Gospel Rapper' half a chance. Because it's like it's just limiting, and you already know everything that they're going to say. Everyone is different, and has their own ideals and beliefs. Whether talking about God, or Jesus, Allah, or even Buddah for that matter, doesn't matter to me. As long as you're real, and express who YOU are and are actually TALENTED, with lyrics, concepts, substance, production quality, and originality with what it is that you do, you, to me, are a rapper. I have a friend, he's a DEVOUT follower of the Christian faith. He has GREAT lyrical talent, but when I first ran into him, he was a bit lost as far as the music went. All he did was preach, but, the thing was, he wasn't really talking about LIFE. Life has so many different elements, the good and the bad, that are left untapped, and he made a concious effort to explore the mind of not only Christians, but ALL people who go through a struggle, or, are doing well for themselves, to better be able to spread HIS message so they could understand where he's coming from. To me, I think that is the most important and difficult thing to be able to do in Hip Hop. Make GREAT music that anyone, and everyone can relate to, because it's as I said, everyone is different. We all go through something at some point in our lives. I just feel like Hip Hop is supposed to be about life. So it should be related as such with no limitations. That's just my opinion on it.
April 29, 2008 3:00 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

ReppnKing said:
jjgreenis

So u couldn't make the other artist known without competition?
You know well those Christian brothers aren't about that, yet you create an unwarranted perspective of what their music isn't about. Both 2Five & othes will disagree with your stance here.
I think it's pointless to discuss this with you cause you presupposed what you did is right, so right on.

I doubt, your will sincerely pray for me with the pride and ignorance you're displaying on here. God bless bro
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Okay you right about one thing.. And I didn't mean to make it a competition.. I just want people to listen to who would keep them interested.. LeCrae is a MC..  He was a battle rapper... All i'm saying is that people that listen to hip hop always turn a def ear to "gospel Rap" because of the stigma that Gospel rappers are wack... I used to think that myself.. it wasn't until I heard someone with delivery and the rest of the components of good rap that i was able to listen to it..

Don't get me wrong on this whole thing.. I want Jesus on the forefront... Here's my last analogy .. would you go to a church where you can hear the word preach clearly and understandable. or would you go to a church where the preacher speaks in a monotone vioce or he has a bad stuttering problem??

When It comes to God I would want us to put our best foot forward.. Just Like in Gosphel music... Would you want to listen to someone who sings or someone who can Sang... That's all I'm saying.. I just didn't want people to overlook the Crossmovement 116 clique..

I had no issues until you put the whole Stan thing in there...

So if i offended you I apologize as a man of God..  

And don't doubt it, know that i'm gonna pray for you..

We allgood homie
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Sorry i had to fix it.. It came out all wrong..
April 29, 2008 3:19 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

@ everyone else that had something to say to me..

It also wasn't my intention to take anything away from this Article...

But at the bottom it asks a question.. it say "what do you think?"

I gave my opinion.. That's what the comment section is for..

I was simply trying to let people who don't already know about Lecrae and 116 Clique Cross Movement.. I now understand I went about it wrong and I'm man enough to admit that...
April 29, 2008 3:22 PM
 

what.it.iz said:

jjgreenis said:
"I just want people to listen to who would keep them interested.. LeCrae is a MC..  He was a battle rapper... All i'm saying is that people that listen to hip hop always turn a def ear to "gospel Rap" because of the stigma that Gospel rappers are wack... I used to think that myself.. it wasn't until I heard someone with delivery and the rest of the components of good rap that i was able to listen to it.."

^ Quit. Please. We get it... you like Lecrae.
April 29, 2008 3:24 PM
 

Matt Jeezy said:

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MUSIC GOES OFF...........

THE THE END OF THE DAY, FAITH THROUGH CHRIST JESUS ALONE IS THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN... A TRUE RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM... WE CAN'T SHARE HIS GLORY HEAR ON EARTH... LIFE IS ALL ABOUT JESUS AND NOT MERE MAN
April 29, 2008 4:44 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

Matt Jeezy said:
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MUSIC GOES OFF...........

THE THE END OF THE DAY, FAITH THROUGH CHRIST JESUS ALONE IS THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN... A TRUE RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM... WE CAN'T SHARE HIS GLORY HEAR ON EARTH... LIFE IS ALL ABOUT JESUS AND NOT MERE MAN


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Great Words.. Thanks
April 29, 2008 5:02 PM
 

Dove said:

Good article. Shout out to GRITS too!
April 29, 2008 5:25 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Shout out to the Christan Rappers! I hope we can see a lot more ill lyricist in the Christan Rap game but a positive message is always on point.
April 29, 2008 5:51 PM
 

BogishNiggarosis said:

GOD SAYS IN ALL THINGS REMEMBER ME, I THINK THAT WOULD INCLUDE MUSIC, IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP YOU HAVE TO ALLOW HIM IN EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR LIFE. I DONT LIKE THE TITLE GOSPEL RAP ANYMORE THAN I LIKE THE TITLE GANGSTA RAP, IN THE BEGINING IT WAS HIP HOP. BACK IN THE DAY GOSPEL CENTERED RAPPERS WERE WACK AS HELL, I WENT TO A HHH CONCERT A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND ALL THEM GUYS WAS RAW DEAL, I HAVE YET TO HEAR A MAINSTREAM RAPPER AS DOPE AND TRUTHFUL AS THEM SINCE. BOTTOM LINE IS THE MESSAGE BUT ITS ALSO THE TALENT EVEN IN TRADITIONAL GOSPEL YOU DONT HEAR SONGS FROM PEOPLE WHO CANT SING. BUT RAP HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABUSED BY THOSE WHO FELT ANYBODY COULD DO IT, THE OLD SCHOOL HOLY HIPHOPPERS WERE PROBABLY GOSPEL WANNABES WHO COULDNT BUST A NOTE.
April 29, 2008 6:02 PM
 

Nuncio78 said:

Okay Illseed, first off I gotta' say forgive me cause I had no clue that you listened to "gosple" rap. I had you stereo typed. I use to do "gospel" rap but now I just rap because to be truthful with you the streets are turned off by the "sound" of "gospel" rap cause they're trapped in puttin' up a front for others in their circle. I'm just an emcee that reports what I see through the eyes of God and His principles.

What a lot of people who front like I don't listen to secular rap don't know nothin' about these artists: LMNO, The Percussionist, The Healing Fruit, Lupe Fiasco [Godly values], and many others who are behind "enemy" lines. Shout out to Joshua & Kelab!!!

Dang I have so much to say about this over-due editorial I'mma' put a vlog up on youtube.com/nuncio78 in about 2 days. Dang dude you got my gears turnin'!
April 29, 2008 6:25 PM
 

Nuncio78 said:

To jjgreenis:

Okay I like the front.. I mean really I do. Look at what you're doin'... It's sooooo sloppy lol! How are you gonna' tryna' rep like "Awww yeah 116 and LeCrea is better than those mentioned at top" but you ain't say nothin' about them being better than the mainstream rappers? THEN on top of all that look at the link to your name to your myspace page! The only reppin' of Christ I see on your page is those who comment [and that's a few]! You don't even have 116 or LeCrea as music played on your page but got this G. Clyde dude rappin' about lust on your page!

Straight hypocritical! And it's people like you that give true children of God a bad name. Don't front my dude like "Awwww yeah about time somebody said somethin' about gospel rap". Man check ya'self and keep it real. God ain't pleased wit' that at all. You messin' up the game addin' more fakeness to the flame.

I guess you thought nobody was gonna' click on ya' name to see what you really about huh? Fake!


To others:
This is ya' boy Nuncio! www.nuncio78.com

Peace In [Confusion Out]!
April 29, 2008 6:55 PM
 

Nuncio78 said:

To jjgreenis:

Okay I like the front.. I mean really I do. Look at what you're doin'... It's sooooo sloppy lol! How are you gonna' tryna' rep like "Awww yeah 116 and LeCrea is better than those mentioned at top" but you ain't say nothin' about them being better than the mainstream rappers? THEN on top of all that look at the link to your name to your myspace page! The only reppin' of Christ I see on your page is those who comment [and that's a few]! You don't even have 116 or LeCrea as music played on your page but got this G. Clyde dude rappin' about lust on your page!

Straight hypocritical! And it's people like you that give true children of God a bad name. Don't front my dude like "Awwww yeah about time somebody said somethin' about gospel rap". Man check ya'self and keep it real. God ain't pleased wit' that at all. You messin' up the game addin' more fakeness to the flame.

I guess you thought nobody was gonna' click on ya' name to see what you really about huh? Fake!


To others:
This is ya' boy Nuncio! www.nuncio78.com

Peace In [Confusion Out]!
April 29, 2008 6:55 PM
 

eyewitness888 said:

Check out tihs biblical response to "Hostile gospel" part 2 w/ Joel Ortiz

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nWl7mIwBAlI

April 29, 2008 10:11 PM
 

AçE\V/MăxX \ﭏ/ {Ž}NINJA said:

hahaha hiphop a quote "Culture" unquote with an entertainment genre where there is never a dull moment, years and still going strong, HOLY FUCK!

upps, I mean "Holy HipHop!"

yeah that's it right!!

WWOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!
April 29, 2008 11:01 PM
 

AçE\V/MăxX \ﭏ/ {Ž}NINJA said:

first things first, "Rappers and Hiphoppers" need to get it straight, GOD and Jesus are not you fucking tools!, Christianity stems way beyond Music and culture, GOD is somebody you should have with you no matter what if you truly do love him, music or not! poor or rich! good times or bad times, when it comes to god we (especially us TRUE Christians, who don't use
Christianity for promotional gain) gotta realize we are dealing with a higher being, we should be going to him (GOD) out of
love and respect in all humbleness, not when you wanna push ulterior motives and show how much skill you got and how well
you can rap and only when you wanna vent about shit that pisses you off, Christianity is not a rap/hiphop thing, it's not a hiphop verses traditional/original Christianity thing, GOD Speaks to people of all cultures to bring one Holy "whole" Message, it 's
the gospel truth according to GOD not the gospel truth according to what Hiphop and the  Hiphop community and man dictates, God doesn't give a certain set of standards for one cultue/one set of people and gives a certain set of different standards for another!, GOD is GOD he doesn't have a split "personality" and he does not change, he was here way before hiphop/music was, what ever he says or does stands/reigns supreme  so it's really not about music or further more entertainment or cultural differences/preferences, in fact if it was up to him "right now" this second this very day there would be none of these "hindering divisive differences" among our societies and communities, Christianity is not about what you and only you wish and want to happen, you gotta look out for your fellow man sometimes you know, this shit is deep, if you're a true Christian at some point in your life you're gonna have to make sacrifices, organize yourself and get shit correct!,despite what people may say or think!, you're going to have to make sacrifices and sow those seeds and lay that foundation, and push the petty shit aside and lead by example, Christianity is not a fucking popularity contest, anyway let me stop now......

lol before I get too in-depth and in tune with wisdom and fuck up the whole page with long azz insightful paragraphs, giving
motherfuckers brain tumors.

um respect to the Christian rappers and that whole holy hiphop movement, the more heads/minds we Christians put together the more we can get done/achieve, respect to Christians as a whole and non righteous/religious people and allhiphop
http://www.myspace.com/acevmaxxvninja    
April 29, 2008 11:13 PM
 

mixonc said:

2Five is nice!!! LeCrae is the man too. I'm still waiting for Kanye West to give us another Jesus Walks!!!
April 29, 2008 11:54 PM
 

mainwun said:

RIP SEAN BELL
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April 30, 2008 1:16 AM
 

Holy Hip-Hop: Hostile Gospel - The BN Village said:

April 30, 2008 1:49 AM
 

BIG KEEF said:

Cross Movement

Shai Linne

it's some dope Christian emcees out there....people just stereotype em...too bad
April 30, 2008 2:59 AM
 

DJGETBUCK said:

I remember Mr. Del he did that song azz & titties with three 6 mafia, he came a long way from that its good to see him doing some positive things he was one of the better lyricists out of the group
April 30, 2008 3:22 AM
 

Quis4sho said:

If it's dope then I fucks wit it...!!!
April 30, 2008 3:40 AM
 

dbonezone said:

LeCrae is the shit with Christian rap. I think Dmx is doing somthing good for hip hop with his new album. Along with Cassidy and even Lil Wayne with couple of his songs.
April 30, 2008 6:23 AM
 

adopefemalemc said:

I've always put my spirituality in my raps, but never wanted to be a "Gospel Artist" b/c it preaches to the choir and I wanted to infiltrate the mainstream listeners. Gotta big up 2Five for taking the words right out my mouth.. Also, on the honest tip, I still wanted to have fun w/ the music, and let my music grow w/ my personal growth, rather than being limited to only talkn about Jesus. I also wanted to grab the attention of the mainstream (the same mainstream that influenced me) and then drop gems on them, about life, as well as Jesus. So it didn't make sense for me not to reach out to the audience and platform I grew up on, and Christian Rap seemed to be in it's own world. This is real peculiar that I been askn God lately to lead me in the direction He wants me to walk w/ this gift He gave me, then my Comcast got upgraded today, and I was watchn some of the music videos/ rappers on the Word Channel, trying to picture me being a "Gospel Rapper". I just sat down 2 hours ago 2 write a rhyme bout God and settled on the concept and the beat to write to before I went to bed & I go on AHH real quick b4 I lay it down and find this?? Hmm... Lord, u tryna tell me smthn?  Anyway, u'll see what I mean bout my rhymes, check out the video of me and my girl Shady Jones spittn our rhymes about God on my myspace, as well as my song Let It Go, the whole 3rd verse is a letter to God. And much love to Pac for that song "Who Do You Believe In" because, on everything I love, that's the song I was listening to on a plane on repeat the 1st time God chose to speak to me and let me know He was real. Can't forget Scarface's "Heaven" and Yukmouth's verse on his song "Smile". (Bay Areaaaaa!!) Ya'll go check out that video of me and my girl spittn on my page. Holla!!!---Keyanna Bean
April 30, 2008 6:46 AM
 

adopefemalemc said:

" DEAR GOD,
I know you know my heart and soul
and everything that makes me whole,
But by this world, I've been abused
my innocence has been misused.
I wonder if I'll see my dreams
my mind is bursting at the seams,
But emptiness engulfs my heart
until sometimes I fall apart.
The pain is raw, the wounds are deep
I pray before I fall asleep,
And hope my dreams are in your plan
if no one else, you understand.
This life has been so cold to me
it's been so hard emotionally,
Sometimes I dread another day
but I'm not leaving till You say.
I thank You for my blessings here
and everything that I hold dear,
I'm sorry for the times I've been
un-Godly and for all my sins.
I wonder if you DO look down
upon my life and if you frown,
I get distracted with this world
I never meant to let You down.
I pour my heart out through my eyes,
my paper, pen, AND prayers tonight,
To get this burden off my chest
with faith that it'll be alright.
I know You know my heart and soul
and everythihg that makes me whole,
So through it all, please hold my hand
You're all I have that understands."
--A poem written by poet/MC Keyanna Bean, at age 18 in 2003
Oh yeah, copywritten, don't get it twisted. Just wanted to share it with ya'll. --Adopefemalemc named Keyanna Bean!!!
April 30, 2008 6:58 AM
 

eyewitness888 said:

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April 30, 2008 7:33 AM
 

D.P. of Dunamis Records said:

I'm just thankful to be apart of such a move of God and to see the "Great Commission" begin to be fulfilled through the medium of rap as its been purposed to.  The world can call it what they like but The Hand of God is being extended to a group of individuals that society has alienated but has also alienated itself and he is showing them that he is not a black God or a white God but a Spirit and is desiring those that will worship him in Spirit and in Truth (aka keepin it real).

Those of us that have been shown a glimpse and have obtained an understanding of what the Lord is doing with this, need to remember to be patient with the others that haven’t and remain faithful in "Your Call" whether it be to preach to the choirs(which some need as well) or to speak to the streets.  

In layman's terms speaking in regards to obedience to your specific call, do you and everything will all pan out in the end the way it’s supposed to.  God is in total control and he is a perfect gentleman.  He's not forcing himself on anyone who don’t want him but he is still not willing that anyone should perish physically or eternally......Heed His Call.... Holla atcha boi DUBL-PORTION .....Oh yea www.dunamisrecords.net on our mixtape page we have over 70 songs available for free download.  We also have a couple of projects just release available for purchase as well.  Check it out its all fiya and enjoy!!!! Get Right or Get Left!!!!
April 30, 2008 8:21 AM
 

Iopnr said:

anybody up on Knine?

ya'll may wanna check this out...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42cHenEhJg8

dude is real nice
April 30, 2008 9:41 AM
 

ReppnKing said:

Download 2Five's mixtape @ Dubcnn: http://www.dubcnn.com/mixtapes/djnikbean-2five-talkischeap/

Check out the artists too.
April 30, 2008 10:07 AM
 

Real_Muzik said:

Check out this dude named Nahledge, he has a dope song with 2Five on his myspace page www.myspace.com/nahledge412

I'm really feeling the whole christian rap movement right now.  It's really been opening up my eyes to alot of things regarding life and my own way of viewing things.  Nice article!

April 30, 2008 11:20 AM
 

Active-One said:

THA GIM outta Fresno, CA is dope.   Check him out.
http://www.myspace.com/thagim
April 30, 2008 11:27 AM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

RAPPERS KNOW GOD
ERYBODY DONE GOT ON THEY KNEES N PRAYED AT LEAST ONCE

WWW.MYSPACE.COM/THAGRINDAHOLIC
MY LIFE IN MP3 FORM
April 30, 2008 11:51 AM
 

Real_Muzik said:

Also check out Japhia Life and Rob Hodge

www.myspace.com/japhialife
www.myspace.com/robhodge
April 30, 2008 12:02 PM
 

Real_Muzik said:

Also check out Japhia Life and Rob Hodge

www.myspace.com/japhialife
www.myspace.com/robhodge
April 30, 2008 12:02 PM
 

MrLolaLegacy said:

wearing the Agape Cross on their necks LOL if they only knew Ma'at Hotep
April 30, 2008 4:05 PM
 

CHRiST_N8iON said:

This article is good because it opens the door to talk about Jesus !  The artist I listen to are Da T.R.U.T.H.  the whole cross movement, TEDASHI ,TRIP LEE, 116 CLIQUE, TONEX , J.R., LECRAE, THE WHOLE REACH RECORDS AND if u aint got SHO BARAKA ya need to cop that !!!  ILLSEED need to post one of SHO BARAKA'S SONGS in the rumor section that would be dope !!  you can go to his myspace and check that out !!  

I thought christian hip hop was wack !!!! Then it came to a point where I really couldnt listen to all the secular hip hop anymore they blaspheme God on almost every cd and we're commanded to love God above everything else !! You wouldnt just stand there and let someone disrespect your mama all up in your face you'd be offened !! HOW MUCH MORE SHOULD IT OFFEND YOU WHEN THEY ARE DISRESPECTING GOD ! God is tired of the mixing Y'ALL! HE says in REVELATION that because you are neither hot or cold HE is gonna spew you from HIS mouth ! Meaning you mix your worldlyness and His holyness and it makes Him so sick that HE wants to throw up !! After playin ball you dont wanna drink warm water you drink cold water ! You dont want warm soup you want it hot thats when it taste better !!!!  ;-)

Mathew 7:21 one of the most scariest verses in the whole bible !!  All  these secular artist dont have a clue !! And most people think its koo to support them but read Romans 1:32 it says if YOU even approve of other peoples sin your just as guilty as them and worthy of death !! Jesus died for our sins so how can we the church approve of them glorifying SIN !! You wouldnt go to a church if YOU KNEW the pastor was all up in the club and drinking and smoking so why wouldnt you hold yourself to the same standard I mean you are the church !!! Anyhow check out the myspace I have alot of christian artist on there read the blogs too !! myspace.com/CHRiSTN8iON  PEACE and GOD BLESS !!!
April 30, 2008 4:29 PM
 

romil said:

K-Nine is the man, but I have a couple things that concern me about the holy hip hop culture.  I dont see anything wrong with being competitive being hip hop is a competitive music genre it came up off everyone trying to be the best at what they do.  People arguing in school, barbershops etc. on whose the hottest cat out.  So why get mad because one man says he thinks so and so is better than jon doe? Thats jus his opinion, and hes jus biggin up his fav artist.  As long as they all reppin christ thats all that matters, but I would never down an artist basically calling them wack when they are repping the king.  Jus 2 rep jesus and stand up for him would make me respect any of em. I like what I hear from 2 five I think he's hot and got some quality in his material. I can admit like one cat said back in the day the christian rap had Low quality but its stepped way up in 2008!  But I have been to alot of holy hip hop  shows and watched the artist tear down the others and I dont get it. I would hate 2 watch the holy culture fall off becuz of Vanity!
April 30, 2008 5:07 PM
 

andaleis3 said:

This dude right here is the best rapper alive..period. Check him out.
April 30, 2008 5:08 PM
 

BIG KEEF said:

Illseed is on point...check out MuzeONE or Phanatik or Christcentric....it's not about whose better than who...it's more real christian emcees makin real Hip Hop...minus the cosmetics...sometimes underground without the grimey messages some of these other emcees
April 30, 2008 6:09 PM
 

romil said:

I jus checked out andale dude is fire! co sign on that.
April 30, 2008 6:17 PM
 

HatersDieSlow said:

Check out my boy Apostle J.. up and coming christian rapper outta the midwest!!

www.myspace.com/apostlej2006

www.cdbaby.com/apostlej
April 30, 2008 6:39 PM
 

Wit said:

Big ups to AHH for posting this article. 2five is a good dude, my peoples are real close with him. Please go out and support dude.

Also, if yall want to hear some relevant Christian Rap thats smashin what a lotta these mainstream dudes are doin...check out FRONTLYNAZ.

New album titled GAME OVER...can be found on itunes,cdbaby, etc.

SUPPORT REAL MUSIC!!!
April 30, 2008 6:53 PM
 

Wit said:

my bad...heres the FRONTLYNAZ link...


www.myspace.com/frontlynaz

April 30, 2008 7:01 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

Nuncio78 said:
To jjgreenis:

Okay I like the front.. I mean really I do. Look at what you're doin'... It's sooooo sloppy lol! How are you gonna' tryna' rep like "Awww yeah 116 and LeCrea is better than those mentioned at top" but you ain't say nothin' about them being better than the mainstream rappers? THEN on top of all that look at the link to your name to your myspace page! The only reppin' of Christ I see on your page is those who comment [and that's a few]! You don't even have 116 or LeCrea as music played on your page but got this G. Clyde dude rappin' about lust on your page!

Straight hypocritical! And it's people like you that give true children of God a bad name. Don't front my dude like "Awwww yeah about time somebody said somethin' about gospel rap". Man check ya'self and keep it real. God ain't pleased wit' that at all. You messin' up the game addin' more fakeness to the flame.

I guess you thought nobody was gonna' click on ya' name to see what you really about huh? Fake!


To others:
This is ya' boy Nuncio! www.nuncio78.com

Peace In [Confusion Out]!
___________________________________________________

As you attempt to attack me with your Hollier than thou attitude maybe you should understand that what you are doing is trying to judge.. Now by no means did I say I was perfect. I sin just like you do.. G. Clyde happens to be one of my Close friends.. But I don't need to justify anything to you.. My Maker is the one that will judge me.. I'll worry about the Crowns I get and you worry about yours..

So try again with you feable attempts to judge someone with someone else..

I take no offense to what you said because you E-judged me.. Which i think is rather Hilarious...
April 30, 2008 7:17 PM
 

what.it.iz said:

since we're plugging artists I'll do a nation wide plug:
West Coast: 2 Five, Tha GIM, Sevin....  easily the most popular and hottest I see on the underground out there.
South: Lecrae, Trip Lee.... all day.
East: Cross Movement, Frontlynas, Lampmode.... dopest crews!

my...OPINION.
April 30, 2008 7:22 PM
 

KINGDOM FLOWZ CO-CEO 1 said:

I'm happy to see "Message Music" getting some exposure.
To keep it real with everyone, whether it's Kanye, DMX, Hammer, or any of the names mentioned above who've
recorded Christian Rap songs, it's all about their motives.
Are their motives Christ-Centered or Self-Centered? I'm
thankful that I've been blessed to become an active member
of the Christian Rap Movement and I look forward to more
artists coming out of darkness and into the light!

April 30, 2008 7:30 PM
 

D.P. of Dunamis Records said:

@ romil
What up my dude...DONT SLEEP ....DUBL PORTION (THE GODSPEED ALBUM), INDI-GLO(FREEDOM WRITER ALBUM coming soon), 4-RUNNA, SAINT B. L JUDA......and the list goes on!!!
Dunamis Records Mixtapes(free downloads)....   Get right or get left YAAERRRDME!!!!!!

www.dunamisrecords.net

www.myspace.com/dunamisrecords
April 30, 2008 8:24 PM
 

romil said:

wuddup D.P.   (preachin 2 hard headed goons I reach em thru my tunes,)  lol I like that one keep doin ya thang imma check ya project out!  I rap and make beats too but I still buy and support music cant wait till I put something out.    D.P. is Certified yall!  Oh yeah holy hip hop keep invading the airwaves, we aint gotta do it there way shout out to AHH for puttin this post up.
April 30, 2008 9:18 PM
 

romil said:

Oh yeah 4 got to mention yall check out D.P. album cover TIGHT!
April 30, 2008 9:20 PM
 

KINGDOM FLOWZ CO-CEO 1 said:

D.P. hit me up at kingdomflowzradio@gmail.com
or www.myspace.com/juvante
April 30, 2008 9:49 PM
 

Tommygoofano said:

Support christian hiphop go to

http://groups.myspace.com/hiphop4jesus
April 30, 2008 10:44 PM
 

chocolate1 said:

Nuncio78 said:

To jjgreenis:

Okay I like the front.. I mean really I do. Look at what you're doin'... It's sooooo sloppy lol! How are you gonna' tryna' rep like "Awww yeah 116 and LeCrea is better than those mentioned at top" but you ain't say nothin' about them being better than the mainstream rappers? THEN on top of all that look at the link to your name to your myspace page! The only reppin' of Christ I see on your page is those who comment [and that's a few]! You don't even have 116 or LeCrea as music played on your page but got this G. Clyde dude rappin' about lust on your page!

Straight hypocritical! And it's people like you that give true children of God a bad name. Don't front my dude like "Awwww yeah about time somebody said somethin' about gospel rap". Man check ya'self and keep it real. God ain't pleased wit' that at all. You messin' up the game addin' more fakeness to the flame.

I guess you thought nobody was gonna' click on ya' name to see what you really about huh? Fake!


To others:
This is ya' boy Nuncio! www.nuncio78.com

Peace In [Confusion Out]!
------------------------------------------------------------
"Do not judge so that you will not be judged.

For in the way you judge, you will be judged;and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

Why do look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

...First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye".

Matthew 7:1-3,5

@Nuncio78:
Nobody's perfect brother-at some level we all have contradictions (or have hypocritical moments)...it's called sin.

It sounds like u really have a heart to live in a way that represents Christ, but in your passion, you've crossed another brother by being demeaning, name-calling, and pointing and criticizing his flaws. You seem to have felt that him making a competition of different artists or what he did or didn't represent on his myspace to be not "Christian like"...but the very things that you've said to your brother are just as less favorable in the eyez of God.

Yes,the scriptures tell us that as Christians, we are to spur one another on, and also hold one another accountable for our actions- but at the same time we are called to do that in love. And to come at him and attempt to call him a fraud and essentially dismiss him as a Christian brother is not your job, it is the job of our loving, merciful and patient Savior. Let's not let the enemy win and divide us, thus weakening the cause. None of us are perfect.

On the real-

choc1
May 1, 2008 1:30 AM
 

chocolate1 said:

Not to dig this into the ground too tuff...but:

Nuncio78 said:Okay Illseed, first off I gotta' say forgive me cause I had no clue that you listened to "gosple" rap. I had you stereo typed.
-----------------------------------------------------------
See we all make mistakes...and we all need forgiveness...

and know that the mistake that was made was fueled from the desire to express who has blessed him and and who was used as a tool to bring him to Him. Look at the heart of it ya'll.



Aiight...i'm off my soap box...please forgive me :)

choc1
May 1, 2008 2:36 AM
 

DJ Links said:

Man this is wild!!  

Let me talk to the cats doing the Holy Hip Hop/Christian Rap/Gospel Rap or whatever you want to call it.  All this promo for different artists is not a good look to cats who haven't heard us before.  We shouldn't be creating a perspective of competition in the eyes of cats who have never heard this style of Hip Hop.  Who we should be biggin' up is the Lord.  Promo Him and let the people decide what artists they are feelin.

To the cats who have never heard  Holy Hip Hop/Christian Rap/Gospel Rap I encourage you to check it out.  With the state of Hip Hop today all you are getting in the mainstream are cookie cutter artists that labels create with their preset formula.  Most cats have gotten to the point where all that gun talk, street crime and sexin' is old.  What I am seeing cats wanting is change.  People want substance!!  I am seeing cats starting to know they need something within that goes beyond the physical.  Having said all that I just ask that you be open minded and check out some artists on the Christian side of the spectrum.  I'm not going to name any artists here, but hit me up on myspace and I'll give you some sites where you can listen and judge for yourselves.

Blessings and Respek!!!
Solus Christos
May 1, 2008 10:54 AM
 

D.P. of Dunamis Records said:

@romil:
No doubt.  Much appreciated....Holla at me on the myspace kid.

@KINGDOM FLOWZ CO-CEO 1
Thats whats up.  I'll hit you a lil later on today 5/1  

@ DJ Links:
Question Links.  Is it not ok to shout out your favorite rapper(s)?  Is it not ok to big them up and build some type of buzz for them or anticipation to hear what it is they have to say?  "How shall the people hear without a preacher?"

This is the issue that I am combating and I believe we put ourselves in a box when we make a seperate title or category for what it is we do as ministers of the Gospel that just so happen to rap.  Why it cant just be rap or hip-hop.  You and I both know that 85% of the people that hear that you are a quote unquote Gospel Rapper/Holy Hip Hopper already shutting you down out tha gate before you even open up your mouth cuz of "the stigma".  At that point you as an MC are un affective then cuz their respect, mind or heart hasnt been won.

That defeats the whole purpose of a hip-hop ministry as far as out reach is concerned.  If the guy or gal of the Most High is official, then they dont have to wear naya title on they sleeve to represent the truth and to be catalysts to draw people to God through faith in Christ cuz you gonna know them by they fruit.

You also pointed out the issue of not naming any artist but you invite the people off of this site, onto another site to present to them????? artists????  

Come on.  Thats what the culture is searching for is the realness only found in Christ.  If a dude is tight he tight and If he need more work he need to go back to the drawing board till he get it right!  There are other elements that need to be taken into consideration to effectively translate/convey the Gospel if you using the medium of rap.  If you dont want to accept that fact then thats cool but then you might as well hang ya mike up turn the music off and just pick up a Bible and str8 witness without the rap period.  

Paul even gave the command follow me as I follow Christ.  Please see my above comment regarding the differnt types/calls of rappers in ministry for more clarification.  Due to the fact that this is an e-response,  I just wanna let you know my tone is mild and i pray you accept my opinion in love kidd.....Oh yea..... holla at us...

DUBL PORTION  new Release GODSPEED.....fIYA!!!!!!

www.dunamisrecords.net
(FREE MIXTAPES OVER 70 SONGS AVAILABLE FOR FREE DOWNLOAD!!!)  over 200,000 copies sowed!!!!!!!!!!  Glory to God!

www.myspace.com/dunamisrecords

GET RIGHT OR GET LEFT!
May 1, 2008 12:05 PM
 

duceconstant said:

HIP HOP IS JUST TAKING THE GOSPEL TO WESTERN CIVILIZATIONS RARE FORM!! MURDERING ,CONQUERING AND SLAVE CAPTIVITY IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!! SO ACTUALLY US AS THE HIP HOP COMMUNITY IS A BETTER FORM OF THE DEVILS GOSPEL (GOOD NEWS)
May 1, 2008 12:44 PM
 

phillydisciple said:

www.myspace.com/epistle1
www.myspace.com/youngjoshua
www.myspace.com/317media.com
May 1, 2008 12:51 PM
 

WILLY KILLEM? said:

I TOTALLY DIG THE IDEA OF PRAISING THE LORD IN MUSIC.
With all the negativity associated with hip-hop & the personal drama in the lives of our hip-hop superstars...they BETTER believe in GOD!

No rapper should believe that their success is because of THEM, yes...you worked hard to get where you at but GOD opened the doors for you in the first place so EVERY NOW & THEN you should pay homage & give it up to the most high.

Now whether or not a WHOLE album of this type of music will sell very well is a different story.

I say EVERY album should have atleast a song or two about spirituality & salvation.
May 1, 2008 1:50 PM
 

DJ Links said:

@ D.P. of Dunamis Records

You missed the whole point of what I was trying to get across.  Let me make it crystal clear.  

Personally I don't think Christian artists should come on here and push themselves or anyone else for that matter at this stage of the game on Allhiphop.  Right now its not a good look.  Here's why?  

We look like everyone other person on allhiphop pushing a record.  We basically come across as opportunists!!!  We get one article and then its like a feeding frenzy....this artist is hott, check my site out, check this out.  We looking like car salesmen right now.  You don't think some cats ain't thinkin that?  

As far as me telling cats to hit me up on my myspace here is the reason.  I am not going to come across as a salesman on the site and out of respect for Allhiphop I am not going to promo anything.  I am inviting cats to hit me up at my myspace where I w