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Onyx: Cold Getting Dumb 
Published Friday, August 22, 2008 10:05 AM
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By DeVaughn Douglas
In the world of crime investigation a cold case is defined as a crime or accident that has not been solved and is not the subject of current criminal investigation, but for which new information could emerge from new witness testimony or re-examined archives. As the times change it’s possible that new technology or a fresh look at the case years later can help lead to solving the mystery. Hip-Hop is all too familiar with the idea of the cold case with the notable deaths of top artists like Notorious BIG and Tupac.

With that comes the release of Cold Case Files: Unsolved Murders on August 19 by Jam Master Jay protégés Onyx, a collection of unreleased tracks recorded during the mid nineties. With this release Onyx reopens a file of music to their fans that haven’t heard from the group since 1995’s Triggernometry. The group has managed to maintain a profile amongst fans with group members Sticky Fingaz and Fredro Starr having a prominent presence in the film and television world.

Here the group speaks on, amongst other things, their latest tribute to Jam Master Jay, reflects on how Hip-Hop has changed since their appearance in 1993, and Fredro Starr candidly discusses the controversy surrounding recent appearance on Youtube.


AllHipHop.com: You have a new album dropping in August but it’s all old material. Why are you deciding to release it now?

Fredro Starr: Yeah, it’s called Cold Case Files. My brother (Whosane) and I were just sitting in the studio puffin’ on some trees and listening to a lot of old material that he had held onto. I mean he had tapes, DATs, and all types of s**t. We just sat there and listened to tapes for about three hours and I just thought the s**t sounded crazy. I thought it be good to give our fans something they would appreciate. We not trying to change the world with this album….this is Onyx collectables for Onyx fans.

We have at least 60 tracks - this is just the first volume of unheard material. It gives old fans something they can hear and if we get some more fans along the way that’s cool. This is a representation of Onyx from 1993 until now. This will let them know how Hip-Hop used to be because right now…there’s still some ill n****s but it’s not being really put out there. When you look at the top ten videos all the artists are from down south. When was the last time a New York artist went platinum? New York fell off. We ain’t been the same.

Sticky Fingaz: This is vintage Onyx for the Onyx fan. I don’t even know why we didn’t release….well I know one reason why. We didn’t even know a lot of these tracks existed. If it wasn’t for the brother Whosane all these tracks would have been lost. He’s the biggest Onyx fan on the planet and he had all this stuff we had forgotten about. This is old s**t that we had that was just collecting dust.

“I apologize for being absent from Hip-Hop and letting these corny ass n****s take over the game. See what happens when a n***a takes a vacation?” -Sticky Fingaz

AllHipHop.com: Even though the music was recorded around a decade ago the tracks don’t sound outdated and deal with relevant issues occurring today.

Fredro Starr: Songs like the track we have with Method Man [“Evil Streets Remix”] are just soulful. That’s my favorite track and the beat sounds like it could have come out today. I mean I see what Kanye and RZA do now so the soulful sound is still relevant. It’s still relevant because we’re still relevant. Method Man is still relevant. We’re still here. The world is still going through the stuff we rapped about then. The ghetto is still feeling the same pain. The world hasn’t changed. We’re still at war—we’ve been at war for twenty years! When we came out the first time Desert Storm was over. We’re always at war. Two of my n****s got murdered two days ago so nothing is changing.

Sticky Fingaz: A lot of music isn’t outdated. The music is timeless. What we’re talking about is timeless. I wouldn’t want to be conceited and say we were ahead of our time or anything, but the music we recorded is still hot right now.

Evil Streets f/ Method Man - Onyx

New York is the start of Hip-Hop. We don’t sound like n****s from Atlanta. We don’t sound like n****s from Tennessee. All that Dirty South s**t sounds the same.” –Sonny Seeza

AllHipHop.com: Even though the times may not have changed Hip-Hop music has made drastic shifts. What do you attribute those shifts to?

Sticky Fingaz: It’s regional. Every regions gets it’s time. When Onyx came out the west coast was on and the east coast was kind of soft. We had A Tribe Called Quest, and don’t get me wrong I love A Tribe Called Quest, But Dr. Dre was killing the game with the hardcore music. Then Onyx came and we started smashing s**t. Now the music is on the southern tip so each region has it’s time to shine. The south is shining, but all good things come to an end.

Sonny Seeza: I think you’re looking at it from the wrong way. That’s rap. Rap is basically on some other corporate s**t. We come from the Hip-Hop standpoint. Today rap is prevalent because it’s corporate but what’s going on today is not Hip-Hop.

Fredro Starr: Very true. When we came in the game we were signed to Def Jam. That meant something. Beastie Boys. Run DMC. LL Cool J. Public Enemy. The industry had integrity. People’s brands meant something. Now….it’s not the same. It went regional.

Sonny Seeza: New York is the start of Hip-Hop. We don’t sound like n****s from Atlanta. We don’t sound like n****s from Tennessee. All that Dirty South s**t sounds the same. So now it’s turned into a regional game. New York is not popping so the corporate side is not looking for a rapper out of New York. Record labels and executives shut down New York. We started the 100Mad movement so we could build up the integrity and voice of the east coast. We want to build up east coast music. We want to give artist from the east coast a chance to be heard.

Fredro Starr: 100Mad is short for 100 mad n****s with guns. We’re putting out compilation albums from artist in the tri-state area and the east coast that have no outlets. We’re going to put these records in the store and give these kids a chance because the rest of the industry isn’t. We’re going to be out there looking for talent.

Onyx "Shiftee" Video




AllHipHop.com: Well you have been around as the music has changed so did you see the change in music coming? Was it gradual to you or all of a sudden?

Sonny Seeza: That started at the start of the new millennium. It had already started with Cash Money and Master P. We saw it. We worked with it. We watched many east coast rappers become confused about who they were but we stayed the same. We calculated and planned so we could be here today.

Fredro Starr: When we came up there were down south rappers out. You had artists like the Geto Boys and Luke. The South was there. When we came out they were growing and then their voice got bigger than our voice. I just never saw that coming. But everything evolves and it’s going to come back around.

Sonny Seeza: It’s back around right now. Whatever the f**k that dance is…Soulja Boy….n****s ain’t trying to do that no more. Right now we are getting it together so that we can take Hip-Hop back from the corporations. It’s time to take the hood back.

Fredro Starr: We going to come with an Onyx dance [laughs]. We black rock stars. We rappers but when you go to one of our shows it’s like a rock concert. You’re going to thing you’re in the wrong venue.

“We came out with ‘Slam’ and some other tracks and I’m going to keep it real, n****s in the street made comments. S**t like, ‘Why ya’ll on that white boy s**t?’” –Fredro Starr

AllHipHop.com: Aren’t you releasing an album of new material with more of a rock edge?

Fredro Starr: Yeah, Black Rock. I think the Black Rock album should have been released in ‘94. It should have been our second album. We came out with “Slam” and some other tracks and I’m going to keep it real, n****s in the street made comments. S**t like, “Why ya’ll on that white boy s**t?” We made a U turn from those types of records because n****s in the hood wasn’t feeling it. But it’s not about the n****s in Brooklyn it’s about what we represent, and we represent high energy music.

When we did songs like “Last Dayz” (All We Got Iz Us) we showed people that we can spit. That album proved we were ill lyricist. When we did the “Slam” record we never capitalized off it. We never did Lollapalooza or a show with the Beastie Boys. We stayed away from that lane and that was our lane. Why should we just stay in the Hip-Hop market when we can appeal to the rock crowd as well? We are Hip-Hop but we’re going to put on the mad face and Mohawk and bust n****s ass on stage. We’ve already done that in rap and our show is our strongest point. I like rock music and its energy matches our energy so that’s why we’re coming with the Black Rock album. Hopefully the Hip-Hop fans in Brooklyn will feel it but it’s really not for them. It’s Hip Rock. It’s for the Lollapalooza n****s.

Sticky Fingaz: Really it’s for everyone to understand what Onyx is about. It’s for the fans that feel and love what Onyx is doing. That’s what it’s for. If you ain’t with that we’ll see you later.

Sticky Fingaz: He’s right, we were scared of that lane. The president of Def Jam Lyor Cohen basically had to talk us into doing a track like “Slam.” We were so hood and so hard that we didn’t want to do that s**t. I mean our show is like a mosh pit. Overseas 90% of our audience is white. We are still going to release a street album, but don’t knock this rock s**t. This rock s**t is hard. It’s not like this is soft rock. Lil Wayne is the highest selling artist out right now and he comes out on stage with a f******g guitar. It’s not just to appease the Rock & Roll crowd. But it’s for everyone. Really it’s for everyone to understand what Onyx is about. It’s for the fans that feel and love what Onyx is doing. That’s what it’s for. If you ain’t with that, we’ll see you later.

Fredro Starr: It’s the same lyrics--different beat. Same struggle—different beat.

Sonny Seeza: We’re trying to be the ones that open up the doors for others to come through. Trailblazers. We’re not going to stop being who we are regardless of the media or anyone else.

50 is a smart businessman and at the end of the day we gave him respect. We put him on records when we was at the top of the game. He didn’t even have a car. We gave him respect on the strength of Jam Master Jay. What did we get in return? Someone talking slick on mixtapes? Swinging on n****s? So now I feel like it’s a problem. -Fredro Starr

AllHipHop.com: On that media note, Fredro there’s video of you on the Internet making a few comments about Brandy, Dipset, and 50 Cent. Care to speak on any of it?

Fredro Starr: The video…I’m going to be real…I played myself. I did a video where it wasn’t the right time…it wasn’t the right place. I was feeling myself a little too much. At the end of the day everything has a justification—even the Brandy thing. I never meant to put her on blast and say she gave me head. It was a joke and the media ran with it. That’s what it was. The comments about Dipset…Dipset is doing them. I can’t judge what they’re doing.

Now the comments about me and 50…that’s a problem that we have. It’s just a problem…I don’t consider it beef. He said some things out of his mouth. I started working with Bang em Smurf. I don’t know what was going through his mind. But when you try to swing on me…we have a problem. He never called my phone and tried to explain what was going on. I never got any messages. 50 is a smart businessman and at the end of the day we gave him respect. We put him on records when we was at the top of the game. He didn’t even have a car. We gave him respect on the strength of Jam Master Jay. What did we get in return? Someone talking slick on mixtapes? Swinging on n****s? So now I feel like it’s a problem. We never put it on wax. So if you want to do it that way we’re ready to entertain. We ready. I’m ready. 100 Mad is ready. This was before he said f**k Jimmy Iovine. This was when he was a big dude.

But what did G-Unit sell on their last album? Good, now we’re on the same playing field. Now it’s even. You want to say something about Onyx I will be more than happy to address it. If he calls my phone and want to put it behind us my ears would be open, but I ain’t get that phone call yet. I don’t give a f**k. I mean, every interview they ask me about this n***a. I can’t get away from it. So I think he just made it so we’re always relevant. Hopefully we can entertain some people and see who is really spittin’ that s**t.

Onyx f/ 50 Cent "React" Video



AllHipHop.com: You and Sticky Fingaz are also well known for being in other aspects of the entertainment industry. How is it balancing mainstream acting careers while making hardcore music?

Sticky Fingaz: There’s no problem. Ice Cube puts out comedy and family [movies]. The two worlds pretty much remain separate.

Fredro Starr: Hollywood don’t care. If you’re selling records the people at the movie house don’t give a f**k….they just want people in the seats. Same hustle to me.

“Now I’m not about to fall off of the movies but we are going to hit the music stronger. Ask Eminem who his favorite rapper is and see whose name comes up.” -Sticky Fingaz

AllHipHop.com: Do you feel like the acting may have taken you away from rap too much?

Sticky Fingaz: The acting definitely took us away from rap. You can’t do everything at once. Some people have a good machine behind them where they can do both. Some people can’t let the music fall off because that’s how they feed their families. We’ve been lucky enough to be able to do both. Now I’m not about to fall off of the movies but we are going to hit the music stronger. Ask Eminem who his favorite rapper is and see whose name comes up. We got a lot of stuff coming out but if you ever wonder what’s going on go to onyxdomain.com.

Fredro Starr: Yeah, I can say that. Sometimes I’ll walk down the street and see a white girl and she’ll say “Oh s**t, that’s Malakai from Save the Last Dance!” She doesn’t know about my music career. I think when you know how to balance it works for you. I mean, Sticky wrote a movie that will have me and Mekhi Phifer, and Bokeem Woodbine where all the dialogue is rapped. It’s just bringing both our worlds together. We have a lot of stuff that’s going to be coming out soon. Things that we’re producing and working on ourselves that I can’t even speak on yet. We do have a documentary about Jam Master Jay called Two Turntables and a Mic which just shows people more about his life. We’re going back before Russell even knocked on his door looking for a DJ. That’s one of the projects that we’re really proud about.
 
Sticky Fingaz: I have a movie coming out under Lionsgate that I wrote produced and directed. All the dialogue is rapped. And this isn't] rappers but A-List actors in the movie. I learned a lot from being an actor in a lot of movies. I’ve got connections, I got a crew, and I got money so I shot the beginning of the story. I showed it to Lionsgate and they told me not to show it to anyone else. We want to do this. I have another one with that same rap concept coming out with Vivica Fox, Cedric the Entertainer, Angie Stone, Joe Torre and some others.

AllHipHop.com: When you’re listening to the old recordings, what’s biggest difference from the you on tape and the you listening today?

Sonny Seeza: I think I was ill then and I’m ill now. It shows the relevance of what I’m doing now. It just gives me insight to my mind state and vibe. That period is now etched in stone because of those recordings. Sometimes I listen and I don’t even remember saying some things. Sometimes I’m still surprised that I feel the same way about certain things.

Sticky Fingaz: That’s just the old me. Every second we change. You can’t be the same 20 years ago; you can’t be the same ten minutes ago. I’m about to release another solo album because people need to see more Onyx. I feel like people are trying to write us out the book of rap. I look at ten year reviews, or things about Hip-Hop past and I don’t see Onyx. We don’t get mentioned and that’s bulls**t. VH1 has that Hip Hop Honors…we haven’t been honored. I see 50 Cent climbing stages—I started that s**t. I see Method Man jumping into the crowd—I started that s**t. I see Busta throwing water—n***a I started that s**t. And people act like they don’t know.

When Def Jam was in the hole Onyx brought them back. Not only them we brought the whole east coast back. I’m not going to let people forget that. Some of the people coming our right now are just young. They was two or three years old when we first came out but them n****s need to know their history. You know what, I don’t give a f**k if they know their history or not…they need to know their present. We’re coming back out. Jay-Z says he’s getting nicer and he’s over forty. I’m only thirty four and I’m in the prime of my life. So right now I apologize for being absent from Hip-Hop and letting these corny ass niggas take over the game. See what happens when a n***a takes a vacation?

Fredro Starr: I still feel the anger in my heart. I still feel the pain we go through in the ghetto. Really nothing has changed. I honestly feel like one year has gone by. I don’t know where the years went but I still feel young. This Hip-Hop music keeps you young.

Comments

 

Mightydog said:

1st?
August 22, 2008 10:27 AM
 

vega_diamond said:

They talked slot of shit in this one I hope the can make good on it. I use to bump them hard back in the day...LOL I, buy the album just cuz its them!


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August 22, 2008 10:47 AM
 

vega_diamond said:

They talked slot of shit in this one I hope the can make good on it. I use to bump them hard back in the day...LOL I, buy the album just cuz its them!


Now listen to my shit!

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August 22, 2008 10:47 AM
 

D.O.C said:

I LIKE ONYX

GOOD INTERVIEW
August 22, 2008 10:54 AM
 

T-ROC said:

Nothing new. article was boring.
August 22, 2008 10:54 AM
 

miamicool1 said:

These Dudes Are Crazy Azz Hell! If They Had Fans, They Would Have And Other Albums, Im Not Crazy For Dance Music, But I Still Respect Soulja Boy And Others, Niggas Who Aint Selling Always Dissing Others Who Are Why? They Movies Are Cool, But No Block Busters? Brandy, Dissing Her For Being Friends With 50? He Will Have To Diss Everyone Of His friends, Get A Life Yo!
August 22, 2008 10:59 AM
 

PhuckDatt said:

"i hate your fu**in guts and i hope dat you die"
-sticky fingaz

that was a classic album.  i love onyx
August 22, 2008 11:34 AM
 

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August 22, 2008 11:35 AM
 

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August 22, 2008 11:35 AM
 

Doobie Ashtrayz said:

BIG UPS TO ONYX.. VERY UNDERRATED ... THAT SONG 'VERONICA' WAS TIGHT BACK IN THE DAY..  ILL COP A NEW ALBUM FO SHO
August 22, 2008 11:44 AM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

I USED TO LISTEN TO ONYX GETTIN JUICED B4 BASKETBALL N FOOTBALL GAMES THEY SICK

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August 22, 2008 12:03 PM
 

HOT97 said:

I was interested, untill the part where the hate for 50cent came in..Like okay you helped 50 and put him on some records when he was down and out..Now he is on the top of his game and he owes Onyx what?

Then they complain about EastCoast being weak, while your adding to the situation bye hating on 50, an Artist from your own home town?
This is the reason why East Coast is lost because we have too many Talented Artists on the same block that are too busy beefing......

And besides 50 Cent made it very clear that he does not respect rappers that been in the game for too long and are not doing anything..Like Onyx taking more than 10 years to release music, is a perfect example..
August 22, 2008 12:04 PM
 

Darnell004 said:

Onyx is one of the best groups out. I will be getting that album.
August 22, 2008 1:20 PM
 

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August 22, 2008 2:03 PM
 

TheKillingJoke said:

Yo check out my new album

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August 22, 2008 3:27 PM
 

HOT97 said:

Thats why when Rappers fall they fall hard...Using all this material from one timeline to the other is just wrong..Leave that old ass shit in the 90's were it belongs..Every single Artist has music that never made it to their official albums..Now i could see if it was a year later or something to that effect..But over 10 years ago and they are not even dead yet..?

It a reason why some songs dont make it to the final cut..Just leave it alone man..If your that good (which i do believe) why not just make new material and return with a bang....
August 22, 2008 3:35 PM
 

Yung Sosa said:

Yo on tha real dat nigga HOT 97  dont know what the hell he talking about! you gotta give respect where respect is due..ONYX are legends, they contributed to REAL hip-hop not that corny/gimicky stuff that niggas from the south put out.  ONYX embodies REAL hip-hop.  They were originators, doing it before Jay-z, before Biggie, before Nas.  And on the real, them dudes was right when they mentioned 50 Cent.  50 Cent is garbage, his lyrics are trash, his two best rappers got kicked out of the crew because they were both better than him (big up to Game and Buck) and his side kick loyd banks is two times nicer than him.  50 Cent is ungrateful. Read the article more clearly HOT 97 and you will see they didnt ask 50 cent for anything, they didnt say 50 owed them anything.  They put 50 on, if it wasnt for them, (and the fact that he got shot 9 times) he wouldnt be where he is today) and all he can do is come out his mouth and talk slick about them? These are the niggas that put you on and you cant big them up? you cant show them loyalty or gratitude? Read his book and you will see that he uses people.  50 Cent is trash he is a clown and he should give up rapping cause he the reason why nas said HIP HOP IS DEAD.  And if they want to put out music that was recorded from the 90's let them.  Its always good for people to put on only music and reminice.  ya mean? STop hatin and give credit where credit is due ya heard?
August 22, 2008 4:04 PM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

@Hot 97. You're 100% right.
As much as i love NY. Niggas there are faggots.
Please leave the beef alone. Do music, just like
the south does. They are just making music, so
they are selling.

i hope ONYX can live up with what they said.
We are seeing at least 5 veteran groups every
year promising the world but drop disappointing
Albums and later blame their label for a no support.

I very much respect Q-Tips attitude not to
record new tribe material, because they know
they cannot deliver any better albums then
their previous ones. So why the effort?  
August 22, 2008 4:32 PM
 

billy_gramz said:

Oficial Nasty Niggas...100Mad...whateva niggas wanna call it, yo I'm ready for the shit to drop. I always fucked wit Onyx hard, South Suicide all day. Niggas need to definately know their history!! "EVERY BODY WANNA SOUND GRIMEY!!!!!!"
August 22, 2008 4:38 PM
 

DA KILL said:

HOT97,
you are a punk..
like a motherfucka make a story, then even 50 years motherfuckin later...fuck 20...
Kids  cant say, oh yeah that shit is real, thats really what was happening at this time, n get in the mood, get in the story...
So, that cold case shit is the same...
New kids learn...
And even old people, say oh yeah, thats the real shit...fuck that...
And these fucking songs are dope as hell, n still related 2 2day..
i mean, there are still struggle n shit, aint nothing stop, life keep goin on n on, but tomorrow new struggles, blah blah blah...
Yo fuck y'all, that shit is just something that get you in the mood, n u dont giva fuck anymore...
its all bout wildin out, they rock band, crazy motherfuckaz killin shit on stage, make ppl scream n shit...
thats onyx the black rock...
so fuck yall niggaz, ima nigga, but a wild nigga, n im down with that shit whatever its hip hop hard shit, or hip rock....whatever
im down with that hardcore shit, that real shit...fuck yall
motherfuckaz wastin my time, wheres my cd..ghetto way o
August 22, 2008 4:51 PM
 

MRGODBYROAD said:

I'M A TRUE ONYX FAN TO THE CORE......................HOWEVER




“New York is the start of Hip-Hop. We don’t sound like n****s from Atlanta. We don’t sound like n****s from Tennessee. All that Dirty South s**t sounds the same.” –Sonny Seeza


YES WE ALL KNOW HIP HOP STARTED IN NY...........BUT COME ON! THAT WAS SOME FUCK BOY SHIT TO SAY! SONNY AIN'T EVEN THE TIGHT! PEOPLE KNOW ONYX BECAUSE OF STICKY AND FREDRO!!! STAY IN THE THE BACK GROUND NIGGA!!!

OUTKAST DONT SOUND LIKE BALL&MJG
UGK DON'T SOUND LIKE 3-6
TIP DONT SOUND LIKE LUDA
SCARFACE DONT SOUND LIKE NO DAMN BODY!!!!
GOODIE MOB DON'T SOUND LIKE THE GHETTO BOYS!

GET THE PICTURE!!!!
August 22, 2008 5:41 PM
 

Doobies Ashtray said:

@mrgodbyroad

aint that the truth.... but what did you expect from sonny seeza?  some pearls of wisdom? lol...   honestly i have never heard of duke...  dudes probably been working in a wharehouse for the last 10 years (there is nothing wrong with that)..  
August 22, 2008 6:10 PM
 

SPATE Magazine All Day said:

Sticky funny

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August 22, 2008 9:38 PM
 

Intelekt said:

Man, I felt them on some shit, but they were talking real slick about the South. What's with people man? Can't we stop discriminating? The south has some hot shit! A lot of great music comin out from below the Mason Dixon line. There's a lot of artists in NY that aint on their job. Not that I'm hating on my own state lol but it aint a regional thing, man. Judging music based on regional shit is stupid.
August 22, 2008 9:39 PM
 

Walwyn said:

"When was the last time a New York artist went platinum? New York fell off. We ain’t been the same."

ever heard of jay and 50 in 2007??????
August 22, 2008 11:58 PM
 

SPATE Magazine All Day said:

Well I just have to say New York has to make hot records. We have the best lyricists but what is lyrics without the right hook and music behind it. Nothing but a but of slick metaphors. That don't sell records.


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August 23, 2008 2:04 AM
 

Isis said:

To be honest, nobody can sell records the coventional way anymore. Everything is digital and internet driven these days. These record labels need to learn how to re-adjust their stratogies of selling their product. And not just ringtones either. Every artist can have a hot record, or make hot music. Plenty of artista re sitting on a bunch of hot music. The problem is, how is it getting heard? How are the labels distributing their product?



August 23, 2008 3:36 AM
 

punksjumpup2getbeatdown said:

thats funny even back in the day, in the source, thier interviews were mad wild just sayin whateva.ny r.i.p.!!
August 23, 2008 8:24 AM
 

Hollywoodmyboro said:

ALL HOPE IS ALMOST GONE...IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR OUR DREAMS OF FINALLY HAVING A MINORITY IN THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAT SINCE OBAMA HAS ANNOUNCED Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate. OBAMA's first step to gain ground against MCCAIN is confusing but I hope it was the right decision. I was personally hoping he would have pick Hillary Clinton. I will not be surprised if Hillary Clinton end up back in the election just to take votes from Mccain. That's the only way I can see OBAMA winning.

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August 23, 2008 8:38 AM
 

Hollywoodmyboro said:

ALL HOPE IS ALMOST GONE...IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR OUR DREAMS OF FINALLY HAVING A MINORITY IN THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAT SINCE OBAMA HAS ANNOUNCED Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate. OBAMA's first step to gain ground against MCCAIN is confusing but I hope it was the right decision. I was personally hoping he would have pick Hillary Clinton. I will not be surprised if Hillary Clinton end up back in the election just to take votes from Mccain. That's the only way I can see OBAMA winning.

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August 23, 2008 8:38 AM
 

Hollywoodmyboro said:

ALL HOPE IS ALMOST GONE...IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR OUR DREAMS OF FINALLY HAVING A MINORITY IN THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAT SINCE OBAMA HAS ANNOUNCED Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate. OBAMA's first step to gain ground against MCCAIN is confusing but I hope it was the right decision. I was personally hoping he would have pick Hillary Clinton. I will not be surprised if Hillary Clinton end up back in the election just to take votes from Mccain. That's the only way I can see OBAMA winning.

http://naapalmrecords.bandvista.com/
http://naapalmrecords.bandvista.com/
http://naapalmrecords.bandvista.com/
http://naapalmrecords.bandvista.com/
August 23, 2008 8:38 AM
 

Hollywoodmyboro said:

ALL HOPE IS ALMOST GONE...IT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR OUR DREAMS OF FINALLY HAVING A MINORITY IN THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAT SINCE OBAMA HAS ANNOUNCED Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate. OBAMA's first step to gain ground against MCCAIN is confusing but I hope it was the right decision. I was personally hoping he would have pick Hillary Clinton. I will not be surprised if Hillary Clinton end up back in the election just to take votes from Mccain. That's the only way I can see OBAMA winning.

http://naapalmrecords.bandvista.com/
http://naapalmrecords.bandvista.com/
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August 23, 2008 8:38 AM
 

DA KILL said:

"We’re not going to stop being who we are regardless of the media or anyone else."
word..
August 23, 2008 6:51 PM
 

Murk_CartelLaFa said:

fredro starr's album firestarr was classic to me. i love onyx. and 50 dissed onyx first so they got a right to say sumthin.
August 24, 2008 11:59 PM
 

wootah203 said:

to anyone givin onyx shit for dissin 50, you need to know your history. Onyx aint sayin 50 got big because of them. theyre saying they gave 50 a verse on their song when he was a nobody. they did it as a favor. 50 then immediately disses them. it's fucked up no matter how you look at it.

i cant wait for new shit from onyx. their first 3 albums are classic, no one argues with that. and even onyx themselves admit they didnt really like the shit they put out on d3 (d3 put out nothing but barely official garbage). if there's one crew ill enough to bring back hardcore hip hop its def onyx.
August 25, 2008 8:20 AM
 

gorgan said:

 HOT97 said:
I was interested, untill the part where the hate for 50cent came in..       delirious44 says i don't know how old you is HOT97 but killers in the club was a big tune back then, and would have been just as big wethetr 50 was on it or not . IN SAYING THAT 50s 16 was really hot and its a shame we don't get that now from him , and onyx said in this interview they never rersponded lyrically to 50s dis in how to rob [sticky gimme the cash before i empty 3 i beat yo ass like that whiteboy on mtv] but i'm sure on stickys version of jackin for beats he came back with a lil something
August 25, 2008 8:36 AM
 

Stand_Alone said:

I was just fucking with that "All We Got Iz Us" album a couple of days ago. That joint had some tracks that was the shit. Some of them shitz was sounding relevant as fuck. Where the fuck is All City?!?! That nigga Mega was nice...
August 25, 2008 9:05 AM
 

gorgan said:

  Stand_Alone said:
I was just fucking with that "All We Got Iz Us" album a couple of days ago. That joint had some tracks that was the shit. Some of them shitz was sounding relevant as fuck. Where the fuck is All City?!?! That nigga Mega was nice... Delirious44 said. . . apparently  the RUMOUR is when All City was signed to MCA they was running with onyx wyling out and ran up in the labels building with they toolies asking whats up with either money or the record releases , and to state the obvious thats why we ain't heard of them in a minute
August 25, 2008 11:08 AM
 

Nosweat said:

I like Onxy I use to buy all their music forreal I'm a fan and I'm from downsouth so all that downsouth hate them ni**as can kill that and lets be honest sonny popping all that south ain't hip hop dude youre that waekest link in the group kill yourself. 300 Da Year Of The Spartans Coming Soon http://www.myspace.com/nosweathiphop
August 25, 2008 11:43 AM
 

Stand_Alone said:

@gorgan

Good lookin' on that info. Damn...i hope them niggas somewhere still at it.

@Nosweat

Yeah, niggas do excessively hate on the south. I use to feel Sonny might have been the weakest, but they all play their lane well IMO...

Fredro [flow]
Sonny [grime/energy]
Sticky [punchlines]
August 25, 2008 12:36 PM
 

DA KILL said:

stick is the illest...he killed 50 in jackin 4 beats joint...a monster he is..fuck yall
August 26, 2008 10:51 AM
 

R.I.P X1 said:

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                    Tilt your head to the side biches
August 31, 2008 10:22 PM
 

villan-uk said:

that 50 and onyx tune react was hot as hell
September 4, 2008 6:16 AM
 

Frizzodetroit said:

Peep out the movie trailer for the new upcoming film "Darling Nikki" Starring Fredro Starr, Noel G, Mike Allen, Clipperman, Myself and more on my myspace http://myspace.com/frizzodetroit . Big ups to Onyx.
September 4, 2008 7:27 AM
 

Distrakt said:

Low down gritty and grimy!!!
===============
If you like normal today rappers, you’ll hate me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok7N2f3VES4
September 4, 2008 10:19 AM
 

madfaceinvasion said:

I remember buying the  bacdafucup tape when I was twelve y.o. I stayed home from school one day and blasted the entire tape on the "living room system". My neighbor told my mother that evening and she kirked out on me. She took all of my tapes that had the p.a sticker, but what she didn't know is that I had dubbed most of my favorites on to other original tapes by filling in the holes at the top. (ya'll remember that). My mother ended up giving all my tapes back to me after a few months.
September 4, 2008 11:45 AM
 

stylz682 said:

i was born and raised in new york (harlem to be exact)...but i gotta say i hate it when new york niggas talk greasy about people from the south and their culture.

by the way, lets not forget that a good portion of us new yorkers have parents and/or grandparents that moved to new york city from the south in the first place. our fucking roots are in the south too, stupid.

plus, that kinda shit is just plain stupid!! talking shit about each other like we're better than the next man cause we live in new york...

nigga, when you look at the big picture we're all just crabs in the same fuckin barrel no matter where you from.

and we all want the same shit..good chinese food, a decent place to live and raise or families, some weed, and enough loot to put a lil gas in the whip.

(doin my best rakim voice) ''it aint where you from, it's where you at''. dont ever forget that.. and stop it with all the slick talk.

oh, AND i fucks with onyx too!! LOL
September 4, 2008 12:14 PM
 

stylz682 said:

btw, i got a onyx trvia question for yall...

anybody remeber when sticky fingaz got his ass whooped on mtv by a whiteboy a few years back??

if not...check this shit out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRHXZARsX0k

all them muscles and gangsta talk didnt save is punk ass that night!! AND he fights like a girl (no disrespect ladies).

bwahawhawhawhawhaw!!!
September 4, 2008 12:28 PM
 

stylz682 said:

p.s. the cat that fucked him up is simon woodstock, a skateboarder from cali.
September 4, 2008 12:29 PM
 

thekidd211 said:

First of all...any of you cats who ever laced up the gloves and sparred for even a round KNOW that boxing is WAY different from fighting. Even still, that match was not an ass-whooping like people try to say.

Murk_CartelLaFa said:
fredro starr's album firestarr was classic to me. i love onyx. and 50 dissed onyx first so they got a right to say sumthin.

I co-sign to the nth power!!! Firestarr is one of the most underrated albums of all time in my opinion. So was Sticky's Black Trash album.

Anyway, this cat Hot97 must be wild young or something. I'm 28 and too old for all that murder-murder kill-kill talk, but I appreciate Onyx for their creativity. They actually went against the grain when they came out.I STILL got their first 3 albums in heavy rotation on my iPod so I welcome another cd from them. I have to agree that Sonsee is/was the weakest link in Onyx but at least he was better than Big DS!!! It's a shame X-1 is gone 'cuz I thought that kid was BANANAS!!!

On some real shit though, this ain't a up north-down south thing!! There's a Fredro quote that's relevant for black men everywhere. "Fuck peace I want justice, I'm a nigga with a gun and the right mind to bust this." We shoulda been saying that in Louisiana when that Jena 6 shit popped off. We shoulda been saying that in NY when Sean Bell got killed. We shoulda been saying that in LA when Joe Joshua got killed. Now keep in mind this quote was on an album released in '95. You think what they was saying back then ain't relevant now!!?!??!
September 4, 2008 1:44 PM
 

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September 4, 2008 2:14 PM
 

tab58064 said:

leave it alone guys. nobody wants to see a bunch off damn-near 40 year old niggas with screw-faces/psychotic mean muggin'.  i grew-up with these guys shit & it was coo, but if they think they are going to take the game back when in all actuallity I only remember them being slightly above mediocre in the 90s.  Rap as a whole is wack, but niggas who are probably grandfathers talking a bunch of wild-out or kill-a-nigga shit is only adding more wack shit to the pile of wack shit!!!
September 4, 2008 3:25 PM
 

gorgan said:

@ thekidd211 said:
First of all...any of you cats who ever laced up the gloves and sparred for even a round KNOW that boxing is WAY different from fighting. Even still, that match was not an ass-whooping like people try to say.
                                                                       delirious44 said: cosign thekidd211 , i saw the video it was a closely contested bout that the judges said the other guy just edged .
incidentally was that steve wilkos from the gerry springer show refereering that fight ?    THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF KIRK JONES by sticky is a masterpeice    
September 4, 2008 3:32 PM
 

Quis4sho said:

I'm a fan of decent music but that wuz sum ol' bullshit to say bout da south but then again wut would you expect from anotha washed up ass NYC group who wanna hate jus be'cuz niggas ain't supportin' they asses...  I got every Onyx album, but let's face it they weren't classic or tight at all... Just a few decent singles... And Sticky's solo wuz a disgrace & need to be placed in the hiphop hall of shame... Niggas in interviews need to stop wit da hatin' ass comments and jus show improve & let da music speak 4 itself...
September 4, 2008 3:52 PM
 

stylz682 said:

okay, maybe i have to fall back off the ''ass whoopin'' comment a lil bit. i think i was simply trying to make a point that for a nigga who talks and acts so hard he simply didnt come across that way in the ring.

i mean, if you hard enough to bust ya gun, then at least be able to fight OR box too.

i know the dude aint a professional fighter and all that but street niggas (like sticky constantly reminds us that he is) dont put on gloves when they slug it out...maybe he shoulda considered this when he agreed to step in the ring with that tough-guy persona.

he was carrying on like some superman and took an L to a skateboarder who let his hands to all the talkin for him.

maybe some of yall dont consider this an ass whooping but i do and i know a lotta niggas who feel the same way. mostly because onyx is portrayed as the hardest group of their time and all the shit they talk on their records.
September 4, 2008 4:19 PM
 

Mr.GoodBrother said:

Nobody talks shit like the mad face crew...Hahahahahaha Sticky's my dude for that shit talk...For reala Brooklyn Lives-Those crazy Boys...
September 4, 2008 4:56 PM
 

stylz682 said:

shit talking is something to be proud of??

wow!! good night yall...
September 4, 2008 5:04 PM
 

madfaceinvasion said:

@stylz682

Image is everything and intergrity doesn't exsist.
September 4, 2008 5:10 PM
 

Shtaylor said:

One of the hardet verses written.

Sticky Fingaz)

NOW StickY Fingaz, I'm still alive
that mean the greatest rapper of all time ain't never died
I'm underground
Too hard for the radio
MTV won't even play my video
They scared to death motha fuckas tryin to ban me
I'm the one who told Ol' Dirty to shut down the Grammys
You think they thinkin kid well me Stick
I burn all o' ya
I don't care if Puffy do ya remix!
I'm crazy, runnin up in Def Jam with a handgun
Fuck a royalty I'm a hold Russell for Ransom
I'll make you sleep where the worms do
I couldn't care less if you ate shit and died and turned blue
Niggaz like us gonna bring the game back
There's so many wack rappers out here I don't know where to aim at
I swear to God ain't nobody touchin me
Next time you see me gonna be the last thing you ever see
September 4, 2008 5:12 PM
 

Duckman XL said:

Onyx makes crazy hype music, but they need to stop dissing the south. there are bastard rappers like Pretty Ricky, Rick Ross, and Briscoe, but there are people like LUDA, Scarface, Outkast, and Z-Ro that make crazy music and make crazy shows. The Reason NYC fell off is because rappers refused to evolve into more intelligent beings.
September 4, 2008 8:58 PM
 

gimisumo said:

used to like this group waaaay back in the day. sad to see they have to resort to hating on the south like the rest of the fallen new york rappers. but if you think about it they fell off way before the south came up.
September 5, 2008 12:18 PM
 

SEVERE SWAGGA said:

WELL LETS C WUSS GOOD THEY MIGHT B ABLE TA MAKE A COME BAC..I KNOW THEY HADD DAT FIRE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP DAT REAL HARD STREET SHIT DATS HARD 2 GET NOW.....EVERYBODY TURNED BITCH WIT ALL THESE SOFT ASS SONGZ ...WE NEED DAT REAL GUTTA SHIT BAC 4 DA REAL NICCAS ...100
September 5, 2008 1:48 PM
 

SEVERE SWAGGA said:

WELL LETS C WUSS GOOD THEY MIGHT B ABLE TA MAKE A COME BAC..I KNOW THEY HADD DAT FIRE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP DAT REAL HARD STREET SHIT DATS HARD 2 GET NOW.....EVERYBODY TURNED BITCH WIT ALL THESE SOFT ASS SONGZ ...WE NEED DAT REAL GUTTA SHIT BAC 4 DA REAL NICCAS ...100....
September 5, 2008 1:49 PM
 

Haughville said:

first of all shouts to jam master jay.....GOD bless the dead...this is his bloodline, both onyx and fif, they shit is really family bizness...secondly, i'd support onyx return to the music game...we can use some diversity, and them cats always was different...."now everybody wanna sound griiiiiiiimey!"
the new cut with meth is cool, i can dig dat....and on the wild shit these cats say in interviews, that's just them, they done spit the ignant in the source, murder dog, rap pages, and yo mtv raps...lets not read too much in their comments...lol
September 5, 2008 1:50 PM
 

KOSGOD said:

Remeber when Sticky got beat up on MTV?

We'll NEVER forget that moment Stickyyyy!!
September 5, 2008 1:54 PM
 

KOSGOD said:

LOL@stylz682
September 5, 2008 2:18 PM
 

Fulano said:

Finally!!!...Its like Onyx heard my cry for help.  They feel the same way about this Plague of wack ass south music that is brainwashing the youngins.  Im feelin these cats.  These always been relavant one way or another.  This wack shit will be extinct before you know it.  
September 5, 2008 5:04 PM
 

thefirm97 said:

Gotta quote 50 from how to rob: "Tell Sticky give me the cash before i empty three, I'll beat yo ass like that white boy on mtv"
September 5, 2008 7:04 PM
 

IRONMAN81 said:

I remember when Onyx came out when I was in grade school. Those guys were the shit back in the day, lol at Sticky's lazy eye. Matter fact another member of the group got a lazy eye. LOL at both of them niggas  
September 5, 2008 8:55 PM
 

Mr.WickedJones said:

are u niggas insane?, talking about the south. outkast and ugk got yall faded. And they been out for a minute. I like when u old mofos be saying all that back in the day shit. " oh, we the one put 50 on." yall sound like bitches, move on.
September 5, 2008 9:26 PM
 

Pomato Dragon said:

Looking forward to this one.
September 6, 2008 5:46 AM
 

QueensNY said:

I mean I dont like 50 cause I think he a b-tch but he dont owe onxy anything.

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