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New Evidence Surfaces In Tupac Quad Shooting

Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:24 AM | 212 comments
By Martin Berrios and Chris Richburg

Nearly 15 years after Tupac Shakur was pistol-whipped, shot five times and left for dead outside a New York recording studio, new evidence has surfaced implicating two associates of entertainment mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs for orchestrating the rap icon's ambush, AllHipHop.com has learned.

 

In an upcoming article written by Chuck Phillips on the latest developments, the Los Angeles Times claims that Combs was notified in advance that the trap for Shakur had been laid, according to sources familiar with the incident.

 

"Tupac was mostly right about what he wrote about [in his songs]," author Chuck Phillips told AllHipHop.com, although he admitted Shakur "had a couple of things wrong" in regard to Bad Boy’s possible role in the shooting.

 

The article claims that Combs was present in the Quad Recording Studio with at least two dozen Bad Boy Records associates when the assault took place 10 floors below, in the lobby.

 

"Tupac’s shooting at the Quad was really catalyst for everything that happened afterwards including his own death and including the death of Biggie," Phillips said. "It started the whole thing off and if you lay it out in a timeline which I do, you can just see; it’s obvious and kind of sad for two guys to be this talented. I ended up with a much larger story than I imagined."

 

Sources familiar with the incident state that James "Jimmy" Sabatino and Czar Entertainment CEO Jimmy "Henchmen" Rosemond were among those that Combs met on the night in question.

 

Sabatino, the son of a reputed captain in the Colombo crime family, reportedly told Combs personally that Shakur would be attacked at Quad Recording Studio.

 

Rosemond, who people speculate paid Shakur back for being slighted over prior agreements, is also said to have formed a close relationship with Combs following the attack.

 

"One of the people involved in what happened to Tupac has family associated with the mob. It wasn’t by them; it didn’t have anything to do with the mob," Phillips continued. "This person was at Quad studios that night, and this person knew Puffy and Biggie and Jimmy Henchmen and Haitian Jack. A white Italian guy; he’s now in jail. He’s involved in this and frankly I never knew anything about this situation."

 

Soon after Shakur’s 1994 assault, sources claim that Sabatino allegedly introduced Combs to mobsters and escorted the music executive to mobbed-up nightclubs in New York and Miami after he was welcomed into Combs' inner circle.

 

Combs reportedly invited Sabatino on his 1997 No Way Out tour, where the alleged mob associate used fake credit cards to charge up hundreds of thousands of dollars in bills for posh hotel suites, limousines and parties allegedly on behalf of the Bad Boy entourage.

 

Sabatino’s relationship with Combs allegedly continued as he worked with the mogul’s Bad Boy Records until his 1998 arrest in London.

 

Sabatino was later extradited to the United States, where he was convicted and jailed.

 

He is currently serving 12 years in a federal penitentiary in Pennsylvania for racketeering and wire fraud.

 

According to the Los Angeles Times, Sabatino maintained a presence at Bad Boy by financing a recording made by Shakur’s musical rival, Christopher "The Notorious B.I.G." Wallace, that was released after the East Coast rapper’s murder in 1997.

 

The implications are the latest in a series of events surrounding the murder Shakur, who was shot to death in 1996 in Las Vegas, and Wallace, who was slain the following year after leaving a party in Los Angeles.

 

Phillips admits he came across the new details surrounding the Quad Recording Studios shooting while investigating the still-unsolved murder of Wallace in New York.

 

Upon following up on leads, the writer claims he uncovered FBI records to support what he found, as well as interviewing key people with ties to the incident.

 

Conspiracy theories surrounding the Quad Recording Studio shooting have run rampant.

 

While some believe Wallace and Combs set up Shakur at the venue, others maintain the pair had nothing to do with the shooting, but had prior knowledge that Shakur was going to be robbed.

 

"I don’t believe that Biggie and Puffy set Tupac up [to be shot]," Phillips said. "According to these people I have interviewed and according to these documents, they knew about it," he said. "But they didn’t know they were going to get shot. They knew he was going to get beat up. Then it kind of went haywire when it all happened."

 

In addition to the new information, Phillips' story uncovers an ongoing New York federal grand jury that is currently investigating a series of unsolved Hip-Hop and rap-related crimes, including the 1994 Quad assault.

 

As recently as a month ago, interviews have been conducted surrounding a number of open cases.

 

Those interested in obtaining new information on the Quad Recording Studio shooting will be able to examine photo galleries, copies of confidential documents related to the shootings.

 

An interactive timeline as well as audio of lyrics and videos from Shakur and Wallace will also be featured when Phillip’s story on the incident becomes available Monday (March 17) on the L.A. Times website or by visiting http://www.latimes.com/tupac

 

Interestingly, the case has ties to the murder of Jason "Jam Master Jay" Mizell as well.

 

One of the men present when Shakur was shot, Randy "Stretch" Walker, was later gunned down in Queens, New York on November 30, 1995, exactly one day to date of the Quad shooting.

 

Sources have long stated that Walker's alleged murderer, Ronald "Tinard" Washington, was also one of the men suspected of acting as a lookout when Jam Master Jay was gunned down on October 30, 2002.


Comments

 

samydman said:

first
March 15, 2008 11:52 AM
 

samydman said:

and second
March 15, 2008 11:53 AM
 

Juicy_J said:

WHOA!
March 15, 2008 11:54 AM
 

samydman said:

i would like to thank my mom, i would like to thank allhiphop, i would like to thank me, cause if i had a life none of this would be possible

thank you
March 15, 2008 11:54 AM
 

So_Irregular said:

bad boy baby cant stop...wont stop...uh eh uh eh
March 15, 2008 12:01 PM
 

Chris24m8 said:

WOw throw diddy in jail
March 15, 2008 12:02 PM
 

livewyre10 said:

i dont know what to believe, it's all bull$h!t!!!
March 15, 2008 12:03 PM
 

SOUTH DEKALB404 said:

This shit here is heavier than got dam Jennifer Hudson...No further comment...

R.I.P Tupac and B.I.G...

I will always think what would've been...They were THE GREATEST...
March 15, 2008 12:04 PM
 

Eight Mile Road Music News » New Evidence Surfaces In Tupac Quad Shooting said:

March 15, 2008 12:04 PM
 

Haughville said:

this is major....to be continued.
March 15, 2008 12:05 PM
 

samydman said:

yo, this is some crazy shit man...i always knew jimmy henchmen and jack had something to do with that...

i got a message for puffy: the sun don't shine forever...and you best beleive the ghost of the deads will never rest in peace before this case is close


March 15, 2008 12:09 PM
 

odeisel said:

powerful stuff
March 15, 2008 12:18 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

woah, this is too much to take in at one time, let me read this one more time...

In Jay-Z voice: WHAT THE FUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK!!!
March 15, 2008 12:20 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

"Tupac’s shooting at the Quad was really catalyst for everything that happened afterwards including his own death and including the death of Biggie," Phillips said.

TUPAC WAS ANGRIER THEN EVER AFTER THIS AND HE STILL BELIEVED DIDDY AND B.I.G., SET HIM UP. I NEVER WANTED TO BELIEVE THAT. I WISH IT WOULD'VE GOTTEN SETTLED AND THEY WERE BOTH STILL HERE.



"It started the whole thing off and if you lay it out in a timeline which I do, you can just see; it’s obvious and kind of sad for two guys to be this talented. I ended up with a much larger story than I imagined."

NO DOUBT.
TUPAC HAD TO MUCH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE UNDERMINDING OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PLUS HE HAD THE ATTENTION OF EVERYONE. DEADLY COMBINATION AS THE CIA WOULD SEE IT. :SMH:
March 15, 2008 12:20 PM
 

MOB4L said:

So...when I'm 48 I'll get to find out EXACTLY who did what in '96 and '97....don't know WHO or WHAT to trust as far as this "unraveling" information is conerned. One thing I gotta say is that knowing something bad is about to happen to someone and not warning them is just as bad as doing the action yourself.
March 15, 2008 12:25 PM
 

DJBabiBoi said:

I always knew it, Always!!

Ima bad boy killa jay z die 2, lookin out 4 mobb depp nigga when I find u
March 15, 2008 12:30 PM
 

chicagolove said:

they know alot more than this
March 15, 2008 12:46 PM
 

chicagolove said:

its a crazy world
March 15, 2008 12:47 PM
 

wherethegoldat_iwannaknow said:

is it new?!..everybody knew dat shit already...wateva
March 15, 2008 12:48 PM
 

slice1 said:

who said there's no such thing as conspiracies?!?
March 15, 2008 12:51 PM
 

dizzy izzle said:

i can't believe this !!!! they killed pac and biggie and left us with diddy!!! goddamn!
yo somebody kidnap diddy ! this nigga needs to confess some shit!! hollaback!
March 15, 2008 12:54 PM
 

dwill1 said:

boy some of these rich nigga's we see on t.v. going to jail in the next couple years. hope they karate classes will help they punk ass when they in jail where don't nobody give a fuck bout you being a star. we thought it was over but murder 's stay open til somebody get caught it could be 30 or 40 years and the police show up at your crib on some murder shit and you old with grand kids and have changed your life. if all this is true the boy HENCHMAN been a problem in this industry since like 93, 94. now i know what 50 was talking about on the song EMOTIONAL when he talking about HENCHMAN being an O.G. (old goat) and that nigga's wanna tell me bout who they murk like 10 years ago. boy O.G. nigga's GET THAT WORK PUT IN ON A NIGGA, now i see how this is connected with JMJ AND 50. peep JMJ and 50 kool with SLIM who in return is kool with SUPREME and HENCHMAN O.G. wanna talk but i don't know these's nigga's. ain't did know buiness wit'em i don't owe these nigga's. he going against the grain of what these nigga's want. they have a hold on alot of these nigga's we have seen since around 94. JAY-Z connected to HAITIAN JACK, PUFFY connected to HENCHMAN. and when some foul shit happen in this game since 94 them 2 nigga's names come up. but these days snitching is the new keeping the G-CODE. alot of nigga's that was on these street's putting work in are COPERATING. we will see in the next couple years maybe shorter exactly who did what when them INDICTMENTS start coming up.
March 15, 2008 12:55 PM
 

Jiggagirl007 said:

Damn, I'm speechless. I mean it does make sense but then its kinda hard to believe that P.diddy or Biggie knew about it and didn't say anything. I thought Biggie and Pac was better than that. The truth will eventually come out one day.

Rest in Peace Biggie and Pac.
March 15, 2008 1:00 PM
 

The_R_ said:

Damn, bee
March 15, 2008 12:59 PM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

haha,why they need 15 years to find about this, when they have the alleged shooters all jailed?

Sounds quite strange to me.


When is the book in stores???
March 15, 2008 1:02 PM
 

dwill1 said:

who killed BIGGIE SMALLS we don't get them they gone kill us all. man PUFFY know who hit that nigga man that nigga saw.
March 15, 2008 1:08 PM
 

Charbs said:

R.I.P. both of them.......Fuck bad boys peeps......no luv for them. All they do is bring the industry down. Tupac was 'real' and true....maybe same for B.I.G. but i ain't much of a fan of biggie.......this shit right here ain't new 2 most of us.....but for those who had no idea.....its ashame that we had 2 lose much talent and so young. Henchmen is a sucka and always will be. Diddy can be sent 2 jail and they gone' smoke em'.....for real Diddy claims hes an artist....but he no artirts or even a business man.....hes just a fake ass with no talent. Money hungry motha fucka!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK DIDDY!!!
March 15, 2008 1:18 PM
 

DwayneTheDreamPsychic said:

HEY PEOPLE! ! ! !

DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE ! ! ! !

I THINK ALL HIP-HOP and other news media are being used to create atmosphers like they did in the 60's..

March 15, 2008 1:34 PM
 

Nah Right » Blog Archive » Evidence Says Big and Puff Knew of Pac Ambush said:

March 15, 2008 1:45 PM
 

Donnie_Brasco said:

First of all, R.I.P. Makaveli...

FUCK Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mofuckin crew!
March 15, 2008 1:52 PM
 

Dragntrac23 said:

Tupac said it all ..

Peep me, I take this war shit deeply
I see too many real playas fall to let these bitch niggaz to beat me
Puffy, lets be honest you a punk
or you gonna see me with gloves
Remember that shit you said in vibe about me being a Thug
You can tell the people you roll with whatever you want
But, you and I know what's going on
Pay back I knew you bitch niggaz from way back
Witness me strapped with macs knew I wouldn't play that
All you old rappers trying to advance
It's all over now, take it like a man
Niggas looking like, Larry Holmes flabby and shit
Trying to playa hate on my shit, you eat a fat dick
Let it be known this is how you made me
Love it how I got you niggaz goin crazy, against all odds


I heard he was light skined, stocky with a haitian accent
Jewelry, fast cars and he's known for flashing (what's his name)
Listen while I take you back and lace this rap
A real live tale, about a snitch named Haitian Jack
Knew he was working for the feds, same crime different trail
Niggas picture what he said, and did I mention
Promised a payback, Jimmy Henchmen, in due time
I knew you bitch niggaz was listening, The World is Mine
Set me up, wet me up, niggaz stuck me up
Heard the guns bust, but you tricks never shut me up
Touch one of mine on everything I own
I'll destroy everything you touch, play the game nigga
All out warfare, Eye For An Eye
Last words to a bitch nigga, why you lie?
Now you gotta watch your back nigga, watch your front
Here we come gunshots to deck, now you stuck
Fuck the rap game nigga, nigga This M.O.B
So believe me, we enemies, I go, against all odds

March 15, 2008 2:07 PM
 

mantecaentertainment.com said:

It kills me when these old white guys that don't know what happened write some bullshit to get everyone gassed. The streets know who got Pac. If you were in the streets in the 90's, you know who was robbing everybody. If that soft ass nigga puff would have walked out of that studio, he would have gotten stuck! The funny shit is, (niggas ain't gonna like this) Pac knew who did it, he didn't want to fuck with them niggas. Them niggas were real strong. Kill you and your fam strong. 15 years later, niggas names still ring bells in the city.
March 15, 2008 2:12 PM
 

infamous118 said:

I see diddy got Bitchassness in em
March 15, 2008 2:19 PM
 

Oath said:

Damn sounds like Tupac Speakin from the dead..... I sw the smirks on Puffy nd Biggie's face when they was interviewed on MTV saying they did know anything.... RIP 2pac (Greatest Rapper of all time) Stop hatin!!!!!!
March 15, 2008 2:27 PM
 

jamel said:

puff and big knew pac was walking into a trap period and let it go down, and these phony dudes act like they were clueless,but i knew pac wasnt rydin on these dudes for nothing.same for suge had pac wet up about some money,he owed pac millions and didnt want to pay up so he had pac killed his brotha,and oh yeah he had biggie wet up to,to make it seem like retaliation.like pac said be careful who you fuck with and who you dont fuck with.
March 15, 2008 2:32 PM
 

Tupac - Neuigkeiten… « Tupac, Evidence, Surfaces, Shooting, AllHipHopcom, Quad, Diddy, Shakur « SWISS SECTION said:

March 15, 2008 2:39 PM
 

ikon4life said:

The STREETS TALK ...PAC WAS MOSTLY RIGHT ABOUT THE SET UP.
JUST LIKE IN THE VIDEO...ANSWER THE PHONE  IN THE MOVIE ANSWER THE PHONE..
COMBS KNOW THE SET UP WAS GONNA HAPPEN...
HE WAS TOO HOT AT THE TIME MAKING SHIT HAPPEN WITHOUT THE HELP OF NWEYORK FOLKS
HE WAS SEEN AS A THREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 15, 2008 2:48 PM
 

TRUE: Diddy Linked to 2Pac Quad Shooting | The Exactly said:

March 15, 2008 2:56 PM
 

jaeda said:

As Hova once said the Rap game is like the Crack game. Im a NY nigga that always liked PAC ova BIggie. I always felt Pac verbal attacks were true. Pac from time to time would tell why he felt he was set up by Puff and Big. Its crazy what many in the streets here in NY knew who were connected to the industry back then is news like 15 years later. The cops took no time to find out why an Actor from Broke back mountain died but they cant find out who robbed Pac in Busy ass Manhattan, in a building with better cameras then the fuckin BANK. I dont think there will ever be an arrest but I hope there will be soon. I think Puff had something to do with Pac robbery as well. Those were probably his goons. Make no mistake Im a Bronx nigga allday but I just cant respect how Puff moves. On the outside He acts as if hes a nigga that just trys to do him and help others, but he no different than those fat ass white executives that dont give a fuck about people and will try to take out anybody in his way. If a nigga openly says puff paid me to robb pac, that nigga puff is going to have to get another 10 bodyguards on the pay roll because niggas is going to put him on ice. Dont get it twisted its niggas in NY that will still ride for Pac til this day!!
March 15, 2008 2:56 PM
 

Accusation: Diddy Setup Tupac Shooting at SNICKA.com said:

March 15, 2008 2:58 PM
 

BKsDrDRE said:

GET THE FUCK OUTTA HEA!!!!!
THIS IS BULLSHIT!
THAT STORY MADE NO SENSE---HE INTRODUCED A NEW "FIGURE" IN THIS CASE, BUT LATER SAYS HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT?!?!

KEEP TRYING BUD
March 15, 2008 2:58 PM
 

Diesel Locc said:

Pac told everyone that diddy and biggie set him up . Even if they did't do it they still knew about it, they just wanted to take him out of the rap gamee



Rip pac
March 15, 2008 3:00 PM
 

coko_kane said:

yep..they knew..u could see it on their faces in that MTV interview..Puff is not a loyal dude..he has never been one and the world has the evidence..dude is driven by money..look at Shyne we could go on and on..Pac knew what the fuck he was talking about..real recognize real..shit i was 13 at the time and knew what was up..u don't have a bunch of niggaz and one spot and only one nigga targeted..if u gona rob a nigga u taking all the niggaz down with money..them fake ass niggaz from Puff to Junior Mafia(cause Cease was in on the he didn't know what was going on bullshit too) knew the real..look at how Kim don't fuck with them no more...Pac wasn't no industry type nigga..he told it like it was and i'll ride with his words til all fake niggaz are aired and exposed..
March 15, 2008 3:01 PM
 

SouthEastLA said:

WTF!!!!!!!!!! I FUCKEN KNEW THAT PUFFY KNEW ABOUT HTAT SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND AS FOR HENCHMAN... THIS DUDE IS TALKING ON BEEF 3 ABOUT GAMES BEEF WITH 50 AND TALKING ABOUT THEM 2 FUCKING UP HIP HOP WHEN HE ALREADY FUCKED IT UP BY HAVING PAC SHOT... AND THAT LED TO PACS MURDER AND BIGGIES MURDER... AND PUFFY HAD HIS SUPOSIVLY HOMEBOY TAKIN OUT!!!!! HE KNEW WHO KILLED BIGGIE!!! YEAH HE KNOWS.... A PUFF YOU CAN HIRE ALL THE LAWERS YOU LIKE BUT THIS SHIT WILL CATCH UP TO YOUR BITCH ASS
March 15, 2008 3:02 PM
 

MaryJanesHusband said:

I like to climb trees...
March 15, 2008 3:25 PM
 

SAC_KING07-08 said:

So_Irregular said:
bad boy baby cant stop...wont stop...uh eh uh eh

YOU A DUMB SON OF A BITCH.

@LTBROWN......

WHY IS IT THAT EVERYTIME THERE IS A STORY THAT IS POSTED ON AHH YOU COMMENT LIKE YOU KNOW EVERY MOTHERFUCKER THE STORY IS TALKING ABOUT, DAMN YOU MUST KNOW EVERYONE IN THE FUCKING INDUSTRY HUH? STOP SELLING WOLF TICKETS, ACTUALLY YOU SHOULD STOP POSTING ALL TOGETHER OR CHANGE YOUR AVI, YOU LOOK LIKE A TRANSEXUAL.
March 15, 2008 3:26 PM
 

SAC_KING07-08 said:

BUT ANYWAYS, DUH EVERYONE KNOWS PUFF AND BIG HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT SHIT, BASTARDS, YEAH I SAID IT MOTHERFUCKERS, PAC KNEW IT TOO...."HOW THE FUCK YOU GONNA SAY YOU THE DON OF NEW YORK AND YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT ME GETTING SHOT, IN YOUR OWN BACK YARD...BUT YOU THE DON OF NEW YORK"?

TUPACS WORDS ON THE BIGGIE BEEF AND HOW IT STARTED, DO THE MATH, PAC DID WAY BACK THEN AND NIGGAS NEED TO QUIT COVERING FOR FAT ASS WHEN HE KNOW HE COULDNT FUCK WITH PAC, NOT THEN, NOT NOW, NOT EVER...KEEP TRYING WITH THEM "DUET" CD'S FAGS!
March 15, 2008 3:28 PM
 

Cuttathegreat said:

yo I don't agree with Pac being the best rapper ever. He's prolific true...but not the best. As for Puffy whatever you do in the dark will always come out in the light. "Against All Odds" might be the REALEST song ever! It's just a shame that so much blood was shed over this bullshit. I hope Sean Combs have find some sort of peace in whatever soul is left in him. RIP BIG but if everything is true he kinda had it coming...This whole shit is just sad. Let this be a lesson to all the rappers...Do you really want to die over this shit?! We just need to learn from them not become them.


One
March 15, 2008 3:29 PM
 

SAC_KING07-08 said:

JAEDA SAID:
The cops took no time to find out why an Actor from Broke back mountain died but they cant find out who robbed Pac in Busy ass Manhattan, in a building with better cameras then the fuckin BANK.

EXACTLY!
March 15, 2008 3:30 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

"NO RAP MURDERS WILL EVER BE SOLVED BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT HATES RAP MUSIC".-

"TUPAC GOT SHOT ON THE VEGAS STRIP, AFTER A TYSON FIGHT. HOW MANY MORE WITNESSES COULD YOU HAVE?"-

"ARE YOU TELLIN ME THEY COULD GO FIND SADDAM IN A HOLE AND THEY CAN'T FIND WHO KILLED TUPAC?"-

CHRIS ROCK "NEVER SCARED"
March 15, 2008 3:36 PM
 

SAC_KING07-08 said:

I don’t believe that Biggie and Puffy set Tupac up [to be shot]," Phillips said. "According to these people I have interviewed and according to these documents, they knew about it," he said. "But they didn’t know they were going to get shot. They knew he was going to get beat up. Then it kind of went haywire when it all happened."


O SO ITS OK FOR YOUR HOMIE TO GET BEAT UP BUT NOT SHOT RIGHT? YEAH FUCKING RIGHT..... PAC JUST WASNT A BITCH.

"Are you confused ?
You wonder how it feels to walk a mile inside tha shoes
of a nigga who don't have a thing to loose
When me and you was homies
no one informed me it was all a scheme
You infiltrated my team and sold a niggas dreams
how could you do me like that ?
I took ya family in
I put some cash in ya pocket
made you a man again
and now you let tha fear put your ass in a place
complicated to escape
It's a fools fate
without your word
your a shell of a man
I lost respect for you nigga
we can never be friends
I know i'm runnin' through your head now
what could you do ?
If it was up to you
i'd be dead now
I let tha world know nigga you a coward
You could never be live
until you die
see tha mothafucken bitch in your eye
Type of Nigga, that let tha evil of tha money trap me
when ya see me nigga
ya better holla at me (holla at me)
can't let tha evil of tha money trap me
So when ya see me nigga
Ya better Holla at me

TELL ME WHO PAC WAS TALKING ABOUT WITHOUT EVEN SAYING A NAME?

ENOUGH SAID ABOUT THIS WHLOE STORY...READ IT WORD FOR WORD....OR GO AND RE-COP THAT CD...BEST ONE EVER HANDS DOWN!

AND IF YOU DONT THINK SO YOU BETTER "HOLLA AT ME"...
March 15, 2008 3:37 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@ SAC_KING07-08

WHY IS IT THAT EVERYTIME THERE IS A STORY THAT IS POSTED ON AHH YOU COMMENT LIKE YOU KNOW EVERY MOTHERFUCKER THE STORY IS TALKING ABOUT.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

WHERE AM I TALKING LIKE I KNOW EVERYBODY IN THE STORY?

DID YOU NOT HERE ANY OF TUPAC'S SONGS OR INTERVIEWS AFTER THIS HAPPENED? :SMH:  
March 15, 2008 3:39 PM
 

fupayme said:

yo dat nigga diddy is deadman. and wtf jimmy henchmen had something to do wit it too. this shit ain't ova i'm telling ya'll
March 15, 2008 3:47 PM
 

hollaAtme08 said:

yo thats straight bitch move... puffy is a bitch made nigga... they had to shoot pac that night cuz he had his burner the realest nigga... R.I.P 2pac and BIGGIE the greatest ever
March 15, 2008 3:49 PM
 

DaWildchild said:

most people try to write off shit Pac said as hearsay but if niggas is on the streets and got people out there, they know someone is gonna tell especially if they pulled the trigger cause people's ego's get out of control, especially when they get on that gun play.  The power people feel when they got a gun and they put a few hot ones in some people is unreal, and you know somewhere down the line when you're involved in that type of business you either gonna piss the wrong person off or its gonna come back to haunt you cause of somebody's family being affiliated.  Against All Odds, Bomb First, hell the whole album told a tale and put out there just who was involved in the shit.  Money can get niggas out of jams quick and I wouldn't be surprised if Puff had shit like that set up cause I mean damn just look how Shyne got left out there to do a bid and Diddy walked away free and clear.  It's always a fall guy when a rich nigga bout to get implicated.  I'll just be glad when they get this shit figured out so the people involved can get dealt with.  It's a hefty price involved for fucking people over.
March 15, 2008 3:49 PM
 

Realness187 said:

it obious puff and big knew about it.

fuck BAD BOYS

I lost respect for you niggaz
we can never be friends
(PAC)

March 15, 2008 3:57 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Some of you have some good points like: dwill1, Dragntrac23, jaeda and SAC_King07-08. We will see what happens in the next year or so...
March 15, 2008 3:58 PM
 

SAC_KING07-08 said:

SO LETS SEE HERE, JIMMY SUPOSSEDLY KNEW BOUT PAC GETTING SHOT, THEN 50 GETTING HIT...(NOT THAT IM DEFENDING 50)...BUT DAMN I SEE WHY A NIGGA MIGHT WANT TO SMACK UP HIS KID... FOR REAL THO, YALL SAYIN YAYO WAS WRONG, THERE AINT NO RULES TO SHIT NO MORE MAN, YOU DO SOMTHING TO ONE NIGGA, WHOS TO SAY HE WONT WACK YOUR WHOLE FAMILY?

MY POINT- DONT FUCK WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

LIKE DAZ ONCE SAID "MY KIDS GOT ENEMIES NOW BECAUSE OF THIER FATHER" SHITS TRUE, WHAT YOU DO CAN CARRY OVER TO YOUR FAMILY WITH CERTIAN NIGGAS.
March 15, 2008 4:07 PM
 

GizProductions said:

This ain't nothing knew, Pac always said Hatian jack and Jimmy Henchman set him up, he was mad at BIG cuz he knew and didn't warn him.

Basicly Pac was running with Hatian Jack and Henchman while he was in NY making "Above the rim". They took care of him buying all kinds of expensive shit for him, in return they wanted him to sign to Bad Boy. Pac said no and Henchman felt disrespected and wanted to teach him a lesson.

They only came to rob him, but Pac went for his gun and the rest is history...
March 15, 2008 4:08 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@  DaWildchild said:
most people try to write off shit Pac said as hearsay but if niggas is on the streets and got people out there, they know someone is gonna tell especially if they pulled the trigger cause people's ego's get out of control, especially when they get on that gun play....................Against All Odds, Bomb First, hell the whole album told a tale and put out there just who was involved in the shit.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

COSIGN. BUT I GET ACCUSED OF ACTING LIKE I KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS WHEN I SAY IT. EVEN THOUGH DAMN EVERY POST SAYS THE SAY AS MINE. IT'S JUST A COUPLE IDIOTS ON SOME "KEEP EM DUMB" SHIT.

AND...,
SOME JUST CARE MORE ABOUT LOOKING STUPID THEN ACTUALLY SAYING SOMETHING, THEY'LL EVEN CHANGE NAMES TO DO IT TOO. BUT BULLSHIT IS TO HARD TO CAMOUFLAGE.

I MUST BE #1 ON THIS SITE CAUSE ALL THE LAMES WANT TO BEEF WITH ME. LMAO DAMN THAT. THE TRUTH HURTS IS WHAT IT IS. SO BE HURT CAUSE I'M GONNA BE ABOUT THE TRUTH AND I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH LOOKING HARD ONLINE OR ANYWHERE ELSE. I CARE ABOUT REACHING ONE AND TEACHING ONE. I WILL NOT STRAY FROM MY MISSION JUST LIKE MANY BEFORE ME.

CORRECTION:

DID YOU NOT "HERE" ANY OF TUPAC'S SONGS OR INTERVIEWS AFTER THIS HAPPENED? :SMH:  

"HEAR"

ONE LOVE!
March 15, 2008 4:11 PM
 

Cypha Da Weapon said:

"Who shot ya? Mob ties like Sinatra?"
March 15, 2008 4:13 PM
 

SAC_KING07-08 said:

@THE TRANSEXUAL....

NA NOBODY WANTS BEEF WITH YOU 50.....

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HIS PAST POST YOU CAN SEE WHERE HE TALKS LIKE HE JUST GOT OFF THE PHONBE WITH THESE NIGGAS OR SOMETHING...LIKE YOUR "YOUNG BUCK".."SOLDIER BOY" ECT.... COMMENTS A WHILE BACK

BUT CHANGE YOUR AVI THOUGH DAMN SHITS KILLING ME OVER HERE...

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March 15, 2008 4:17 PM
 

Dose210east said:

I heard he was light skined, stocky with a haitian accent
Jewelry, fast cars and he's known for flashing (what's his name)
Listen while I take you back and lace this rap
A real live tale, about a snitch named Haitian Jack
Knew he was working for the feds, same crime different trail
Niggas picture what he said, and did I mention
Promised a payback, Jimmy Henchmen, in due time
I knew you bitch niggaz was listening, The World is Mine
Set me up, wet me up, niggaz stuck me up
Heard the guns bust, but you tricks never shut me up
Touch one of mine on everything I own
I'll destroy everything you touch, play the game nigga
All out warfare, Eye For An Eye
Last words to a bitch nigga, why you lie?
Now you gotta watch your back nigga, watch your front
Here we come gunshots to Tut, now you stuck
Fuck the rap game nigga, nigga This M.O.B
So believe me, we enemies, I go, against all odds

_______________________________
@Dragntrac23

i had to correct one word in this line that you wrote,i think you just heard it wrong unless anyody else can say  otherwise

Here we come gunshots to Tut, now you stuck

I always wanted to know who is Tut???
March 15, 2008 4:23 PM
 

Str84Ballin said:

Donnie_Brasco said:
First of all, R.I.P. Makaveli...

FUCK Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mofuckin crew!

-------------------------------------------------------------

and if you down with badboy FUCK YOU TOO! chino xl FUCK YOU TOO! MY 4-4 make sure all ya gets don't grow! DIE SLOW MUTHAFUCKAS! DIE SLOW!
March 15, 2008 4:25 PM
 

SPATE Magazine All Day said:

Thats wild

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March 15, 2008 4:28 PM
 

GizProductions said:

Tut is King Tut who was a major drug kingpin in NY, Supreme was small compared to this guy. Jimmy Henchman supposedly had ties to him...
March 15, 2008 4:28 PM
 

Str84Ballin said:

lol i had to do that but anyways, Stretch Walker the dude that did the song, "PAIN" with PAC supposdly knew about the shooting too. That's why PAC stopped fuckin with STRETCH, soon after they dropped THUG LIFE VOL.1, a year later STRETCH got shot in the head while driving in a van, some shit like that...KARMA? hmmm idk but I know Karma gonna hit suge and diddy in the face...word to GOD..
R.I.P. PAC!
March 15, 2008 4:30 PM
 

J-DUBB THA YOUNG HECTIC said:

pac and big prophetised their own deaths

"moms clucthed over the casket sreaming bastard, y'all know who killed him, filled him, with the slugs from the rugers or the desert" - biggie

tell me that aint true
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March 15, 2008 4:30 PM
 

Str84Ballin said:

Donnie_Brasco said:
First of all, R.I.P. Makaveli...

FUCK Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mofuckin crew!

-------------------------------------------------------------

and if you down with badboy FUCK YOU TOO! chino xl FUCK YOU TOO! MY 4-4 make sure all ya gets don't grow! DIE SLOW MUTHAFUCKAS! DIE SLOW

i mean KIDS! KIDS! lol
March 15, 2008 4:31 PM
 

Dose210east said:

@GizProductions

Thanx 4 the info

An interactive timeline as well as audio of lyrics and videos from Shakur and Wallace will also be featured when Phillip’s story on the incident becomes available Monday (March 17) on the L.A. Times website

Im peepin this monday morning
March 15, 2008 4:32 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

@   SAC_KING07-08 said:
@THE TRANSEXUAL.... [LTBROWN]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
GET A LIFE REALLY OR MAKE A POINT, WILL YOU. I'M NOT INSECURE. YOU GUYS LOOK LIKE FANS OF HOMOSEXUALITY BY ALWAYS TALKING REFERENCING IT. DUMB.

-------------------------------------------
NA NOBODY WANTS BEEF WITH YOU 50..... [LTBROWN]

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HIS PAST POST YOU CAN SEE WHERE HE TALKS LIKE HE JUST GOT OFF THE PHONBE WITH THESE NIGGAS OR SOMETHING...LIKE YOUR "YOUNG BUCK".."SOLDIER BOY" ECT.... COMMENTS A WHILE BACK

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THAT'S HOW A FEW OF YOU SEE IT. WELL......WHATEVER, IT'S NOT YOU'RE BUSINESS SO FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO CONCLUDE.
--------------------------------------------------
BUT CHANGE YOUR AVI THOUGH DAMN SHITS KILLING ME OVER HERE...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
MY AVY IS BEAUTIFUL JUST LIKE ME. ONLY REAL MEN CAN SEE IT, OBVIOUSLY. JEALOUSY IS GAY TOO.

"I MUST BE #1 ON THIS SITE CAUSE ALL THE LAMES WANT TO BEEF WITH ME."

YOU GET THE AHH "NEGRO PLEASE" AWARD FOR THAT COMMENT.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I TOOK YOUR AWARD THEN. SORRY.

I KNOW I STRUCK A NERVE IN ALL YOUR ALIASES. IT'S TRUE AND VISIBLE. EVERYONE IS SAYING THE SAME COMMENTS BUT YOU COME AT A GIRL. LMAO MAYBE THERE IS ALOT OF BITCH IN YOU FEW. JUST GET A LIFE. LOL
March 15, 2008 4:32 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Damn LTBROWN, You always getting n some ish with somebody ROFLMAO!!!
March 15, 2008 4:44 PM
 

SAC_KING07-08 said:

na your a man...

lets take a poll...all the real niggas who think this nigga looks good say "i"...

if you dont see no "i's" below this then yeah i have made "my point".

fag
March 15, 2008 4:52 PM
 

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March 15, 2008 5:00 PM
 

GizProductions said:

Let me just add something I left out on King Tut... He wasn't really known for drugs, but was a major figure in the Black Mafia, which is believed to have been the  people "behind" Bad Boy in the mid 90's. He and his people was mostly known for robberies, they was allegedly extorting the Supreme team, the A-team and others. In other words they were not to be fucked with...
March 15, 2008 5:12 PM
 

jP... said:

Diddy is foul
March 15, 2008 5:14 PM
 

ReD spAdEz said:

R.I.P Pac
March 15, 2008 5:16 PM
 

The Mexican said:

I've never been a biggie fan because of this shit.  I'm not saying I was sure of it all, but it was always suspect and if it's suspect in my eyes I won't touch it.  I have never boughten a Bad Boy album and never will.
March 15, 2008 5:21 PM
 

D.I.C.E. said:

all imma say is Puff and suge better watch they back
March 15, 2008 5:48 PM
 

ikon4life said:

@ LT- up date your avi and stop all  the guessing
March 15, 2008 5:50 PM
 

dwill1 said:

@EVERYBODY READ THIS SHIT                                                                                                                                                                       04/11/05

The following comes from the latest issue of Vibe (December 2005). Jimmy Henchmen is a member of BMF and former 'friend' of 2Pac. Tupac later accussed him of setting him up for rape and having him shot. In the song 'Against All Odds' on the Makaveli album, Tupac makes reference to him:

'And did I mention/ Promised a payback, Jimmy Henchman/ In due time/ I knew you bitch niggas was listening/ The world is mine/ Set me up/ Wet me up/ Niggas stuck me up/ Heard the guns bust/ But you tricks never shut me up/ Touch one of mine/ on everything I owe/ I will destroy everything you touch'.

More details are found here

It's pretty pathetic that this guy is coming out 10 years later with bull shit.

Full article from Vibe is below.

Embittered by the shooting and his conviction, Tupac continued his "jihad" against the East Coast hip hop scene from behind bars and put Henchmen in his crossharis, telling friends, Interscope execs, and fellow prisoners at upstate N.Y's Clinton Correctional Facility that Henchmen was involved with the ambush.

"I called him and said ..Yo, stop putting my name in this bull****!" Henchmen says..."He was getting me upset man, trying to sensationilize his bull****".

Henchmen always has denied any involvment in the Quad shooting, he also questions Shakur's account of the assault , suggesting that the rappers gunshot wounds may have been self-inflicted.

"Tupac went for his gun and shot himself, and it all makes sense to me because if you got shot five times, while laying down, you wouldn't do all that running around like he was doing in the studio." says Henchmen

"Later on i heard that the gun went off, and he got the shyt beat out of him and was gun butted"

A few weeks later, Henchmen confronted Tupac backstage at D'angelo and Groove Theory show at the L.A House of Blues..."The Whole Death Row clique was up in there, and i remember going to him..I had some Crip dudes with me...and I said , "Dude, you gotta stop telling people that shyt" Henchemen recalls.

"For real nicca, I don't give a **** , it could go down right now!, why you blaming Puffy and Biggie? Them niccas ain't got nothing to do with this...Nobody came to rob you, they came to discipline you, that's what happened!"
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March 15, 2008 5:56 PM
 

coon66 said:

Didnt Diddy just say BITCHASSNESS is fuckin up the community? He wasnt bullshiting.  he's a BITCH(say it to missys' beat)
March 15, 2008 5:59 PM
 

live fast-get money said:

all yall sound like some bitches pass my weed
March 15, 2008 6:17 PM
 

Jiggagirl007 said:

Even though the truth will eventually come out it doesn't change anything. We lost two great rappers and the rap suffered tremendously. All we can do as fans is remember the great legacy that both of these rappers gave to the game. Just preserve their memories.

I'm a great believer that if people do not suffer for the ills they have caused here on earth, they will when its time to walk thru them gates...that is my peace with everything.

Puffy may be living the life now, but one day he will pay for his choices...
March 15, 2008 6:26 PM
 

Jiggagirl007 said:

Even though the truth will eventually come out it doesn't change anything. We lost two great rappers and the rap suffered tremendously. All we can do as fans is remember the great legacy that both of these rappers gave to the game. Just preserve their memories.

I'm a great believer that if people do not suffer for the ills they have caused here on earth, they will when its time to walk thru them gates...that is my peace with everything.

Puffy may be living the life now, but one day he will pay for his choices...
March 15, 2008 6:26 PM
 

westcoastdon said:

If I ever see P diddy in the streets I gotta say I WILL BEAT HIS ASS UPP
March 15, 2008 6:28 PM
 

MurderCityDogg said:

PUFFY IZZA BITCH. JIMMY HENCHMEN IZZA BITCH. BAD BOY RECORDS ALWAYS WAS A CUPCAKE AZZ LABEL. NIGGAZ DONT 4GET SHIT! ONLY HOEZ DO THE SHIT THEY DO. SO TREAT 'EM LYKE HOEZ. PAC WAS LIKE ME AND U, IF WE FEEL SET-UP WE GONE BE MAD AS HELL TOO! PUFFY FUCKED SHYNE. AND BASICALLY FUCKED BIGGIE BECUZ IT BOILED DOWN TO 2 RAPPERS. IF I SAW PUFF I WOULD WHOOP HIS ASS 4SHO. I SAW JIMMY HENCHMEN AND HEZ A BITCH TOO. OH, AND LETS NOT 4GET JAM MASTER JAY. JAM MASTER JAY NIGGA?! YA'LL CONNECTED WITH HIS DEATH TOO?! EVERY GHETTO NEED TO GET AT THEY ASS! FAST! AND THOSE TYPE OF ACTIONS IS EXACTLY WHY EAST COAST RAPPERS GOT THE GAME FUCKED UP. FOLLOWING LAME ASS NIGGAZ AND DONT KNOW THAT MOST OF THEM NIGGAZ AINT TRUE TO THE PURPOSE OF RAP IN THE FIRST PLACE. WE ALL KNEW PUFF WAS A HOE.
HOLLA @ ME!
March 15, 2008 6:32 PM
 

westcoastdon said:

yeah one day somebody will kill P diddy for this
March 15, 2008 6:32 PM
 

JINX29 said:

Glad they still care about the greatest rapper who ever lived!


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March 15, 2008 6:32 PM
 

FORTY MILLION said:

DIE FAST -GOT MONEY TOOK  WATCH YOUR MOUTH HOE ASS NIGGA.YOUR MOMMA A BITCH I WAS ON HERE YOU BETTER ADDRESS WHO YOU SAYING.


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March 15, 2008 6:33 PM
 

MurderCityDogg said:

PUT PUFFY FACE ON THE CURB MANE. PERIOD. JIMMY TOO. AND ANY NIGGA IN CONNECTION. NIGGAZ DONT SEE HOW THOZE MUTHAFUCCAZ FUCCED UP THE RAP GAME. NOW THE WHOLE INDUSTRY IS PUFF DADDY! MORE SHINE THAN GHETTO/WORLD  REALITY. IM READY TO RIDE ON THEM FOOLZ RIGHT NOW!!! I WAS WAITIN 4 THE DAY WHEN WE FIND OUT THE FACTS. I LOVED RUN DMC, 2PAC, AND THE WHOLE VIBE AND ELEMENT THEY BROUGHT. AND ALL IT TAKES IZZA BITCH TYPE MUFUCCA 2 DESTROY iT ALL. AND AS FAR AS BIGGIE? HE KNEW PUFF WAS A LAME BUT HE STAYED AND LET HIM WRITE HIS ENDING. HOW REAL IS THAT?
March 15, 2008 6:40 PM
 

B.Corder said:

MMMMMAAANNNN FUCK ALL THIS EVIDENCE BULLSHIT!!!..... LET ME KNOW WHEN THEY KNOW FOR SURE WHO DID WHAT.... INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY DRAWING THERE OWN CONCLUSIONS UP... UNTIL THEN ITS ALL BULLSHIT.....
March 15, 2008 6:41 PM
 

IrishPride_ahh said:

Puffy may have known Tupac was gonna get robbed that night, but did Biggie?
March 15, 2008 6:41 PM
 

westcoastdon said:

That's all bullshit nobody could fuck with Tupac not even the Crips & bloods. Tupac had love everywhere he go. How did 2pac died? He died by the gun. He died by some chicken who can't fight the hands.
March 15, 2008 6:52 PM
 

live fast-get money said:

live fast took 40 million from a myspace clown.....hoe ass nigga
March 15, 2008 6:52 PM
 

Ryansocal909 said:

Some how i knew that "diddy" and Biggie where in on this....Fuck Bad Boy You guys fuckin suck at makeing Hits and that naking the band show is a piece of shit diddy!...- plain and simple
March 15, 2008 7:01 PM
 

Nyeshia Brown said:

what's in the dark will soon come to light
March 15, 2008 7:30 PM
 

2pacsoldier5084 said:

RIP 2PAC, the greatest rapper of all time.

And fuck Puffy if this shit is true.
March 15, 2008 7:43 PM
 

billy_gramz said:

sad sad story...two of the greatest caught up in sum shit dat was bigger than them. I feel fucked up when i realize niggas lost their lives, niggas be like we lost two great artists, nigga them niggas had to feel them shots, not us! THINK ABOUT THEM!! niggas died at the hands of other niggas (not even the shooters, but the niggas who told the shooters to shoot). I ain't sayin what I don't know, but Ima say this. 2Pac got hit up in a way that just don't seem justifiable to me. 2 niggas sittin in a 500 BMW side by side...niggas roll up, Pac gets hit 5 or so times in da chest and shit, his whole side of the car is riddled wit bullet holes, and the driver of the car is perfectly fine...I don't believe it.

As far as Quad Studios...Not sayin Pac deserved it, but look at this shit from all angles...BIG had nothin to do wit none of this bullshit. Cease came up from the lobby and told BiG dat Pac had got hit up. Pac is in a fucked up perdicament. Locked up, shot up, and all that...Devil in the Red dress to da rescue...anybody remember DMX song da snake da rat da cat da dog? apply that to 2pac relationship wit Suge...tell me it don't make sense.

In a puppet show, the audience only see the puppets. the niggas pullin the strings is not in the publics view...think about it. Why Puff wasn't ridin wit BiG, why BiG was in the front seat?...making himself a target in LA... why did niggas that was around BiG let that shit happen like dat...BIG...everybody recognize this man. If you his peoples, why let him put himself in harms way? Even though BiG was like fuck it, I ain't shook if its whateva, if you his peoples, you don't let that nigga go out like dat... shit got me mad now
March 15, 2008 8:12 PM
 

NEW EVIDENCE BIGGIE & DIDDY KNEW ABOUT THE 2PAC HIT | said:

March 15, 2008 8:12 PM
 

bknewstash said:

This isnt new news. Who didnt have this in the back of their minds.but i see alot fof rontin going on.All this diddy hating.I know if some of yall saw diddy tomorrow you would get an autograph and a damn pic to put on myspace and AHH.The media just wants people to choose sides.Black men die everyday over beef and bs.Biggie and Pac just happened to be famous.Rappers didnt have as much security back then.there was no hip hop police.there were always fights at award shows.Papoose and Uncle Murda looks like they about to take it there.Ignorance is bliss.

and F.T.R  Biggie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pac
March 15, 2008 8:16 PM
 

ThaUndergroundG said:

The story is that Tupac was shot because of some
dealings with some shady people in New York known
as the "Black Mafia." These people, it is
rumored, financed Bad Boy records. Tupac met some
of these people in New York, including the mysterious
Trevor aka King Tut who later admitted to
some undercover cops that he had been involved
in the shooting and it was because Tupac "needed
to be disciplined."  Who paid for Tut's legal
bills?  None other than Puffy who still denies it.  
It is said that these "Black Mafia" characters
demanded that Tupac sign on to Bad Boy
records since Bad Boy still really wasn't on
the scene and needed an artist like Tupac but
Tupac refused the demands. Tupac was supposed to
die that night. This was punishment for saying no.
If you remember Tupac, in his first interview
after being shot, said in Vibe that people
were trying to kill him. These were those people.
That is another reason why Tupac went to Death Row,
because Suge could provide the protection
he needed. Puffy played the real role in this
shooting, although Biggie knew about it. Puffy
didn't order the shooting, he however, helped set
up Tupac. Also, if you recall, Tupac never said
Puffy did it, he said he was set up by Puffy.

There is also another possibility behind the
motive of the shooting which is different from
punishing Tupac for not signing with Bad Boy.  
After the rape case started, Tupac blamed Jacques
Agnant a.k.a. Haitain Jack for setting him up in
the trial.  This was suspicious because Tupac
got the absolute maximum penalty for the charges
he was found guilty of while Agnant received
like 3 months suspended sentence and he was
rumored to be a federal informant which is why
Pac called him a snitch.  

In the N.Y. Daily News, in an article by a
reporter who was talking about the rape case,
the reporter, Pac and Mickey Rourke were in a
restaurant and Pac dissed Jack in the article.  
In Vibe, Pac said that Nigel (Haitain Jack)
introduced him to Booker(Jimmy Henchmen) and that
Jimmy knew somebody that Pac had major beef with
meaning Jack and Trevor aka Walter (King Tut) Johnson.  
King Tut was the one that Tupac said, in
the interview with Tech and Sway on KMEL,
that a week before he was shot Tut walked in with
Biggie and Biggie told Pac not to fuck with him.  So
right there, you can see that Biggie knew the
shooter quite well. Also, in that jail interview,
Pac was asked if the shooters were both black
men and Pac said that they were black men in their
thirties.  Both King Tut and Jack were both in their
thirties.   They both shot him up and it was Jimmy
Henchman that called him up. So this other motive
is that King Tut shot Pac because he "needed to
be disciplined" for dissing Jack in that article
because he was Tut's homeboy.

There were still a few issues which didn't seem
to fit. Originally, Pac thought that the police
had set him up.  He kind of abandoned that
accusation but here is a quote about the scene
after the shooting:"Officers arrived on the scene
soon after the call was placed. When officers
arrived, Tupac was greeted by the same officers
which hadarrested and testified against him in
the sexual assault trial. Thiswould lead many
to believe that the police may have had something
to dowith it or the rape victim was seeking revenge
but these wouldapparently turn out to be false
accusations."

This seems more than coincedence because New York
City has a special case squad located in the
13th precent. The detectives in this squal handle
all high profile cases within NYC. They would have
been called to the scene immediately after confirmation
that this was a Tupac related incident.  But who
shows up, the same officers that arrested Pac.  
Coincedence or conspiracy?

This is the story of the 1994 shooting in New York
City. Think of it what you will but realize that
there is more to the music business than the ordinary
media will show. With all the details emerging from this
shooting nearly 2 and a half years later, we must ask
ourselves if the shooting in Las Vegas was just
another jewelry robbery or if it was the complex
situation like that which surrounded the 1994
shooting. Keep in mind that Tupac was shot in 1994
because he didn't sign a contract therefore not
making money for Bad Boy and it was covered up
with the front of a robbery. Now we must ask, was
Tupac shot in Las Vegas in 1996 because his
contract was over with Death Row and it was covered
up with the medallion robbery story. Did history
repeat itself? You be the judge.
March 15, 2008 8:19 PM
 

Albeezy said:

As much as I like Puff and Big- i dont think they would have tried and shoot and /or KILL Pac......... but i can see a situation where they knew he was going 2 get beat up and Not say anything....

but then again... Who Knows.... hopefully time will tell
March 15, 2008 8:19 PM
 

jaeda said:

LtBrown said @ SAC_KING07-08

MY AVY IS BEAUTIFUL JUST LIKE ME. ONLY REAL MEN CAN SEE IT, OBVIOUSLY. JEALOUSY IS GAY TOO.

"I MUST BE #1 ON THIS SITE CAUSE ALL THE LAMES WANT TO BEEF WITH ME."

YOU GET THE AHH "NEGRO PLEASE" AWARD FOR THAT COMMENT.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bitch please Your picture is garbage. If I sent a picture of you to my hommy in prison he would never speak to me again. I told you bitch a nigga in jail wouldnt fuck you. YOUR A MAN!!!!
---------------------------------------------------------
NOW back to the story at hand:

Puff is a bitch and like I said if it comes to light that a nigga OPENLY admits Puff hired him or Set Pac up, then Puff is going to be a dead man walking. I hear alot of hear say from time to time but I never seen any hard proof that Puff set this shit up. Dont get me wrong I suspect PUff hand a big hand in that PAC shooting but I need just alittle more evidence before sighn off 100% on the fact PUff did the shit.
March 15, 2008 8:52 PM
 

duceconstant said:

Sac King you killed em with this pac verse  for real   i feels ya!!    pac was talking bout that nigga stretch!!  he said you can never be live!! u know stretch had that group the live squad!!  (you ifitraited my team and sold a niggaz dreams!!) ...its funny that nigga got killed exactly a year and a day after pac got robbed..i always though pac had that done!!             Are you confused ?
You wonder how it feels to walk a mile inside tha shoes
of a nigga who don't have a thing to loose
When me and you was homies
no one informed me it was all a scheme
You infiltrated my team and sold a niggas dreams
how could you do me like that ?
I took ya family in
I put some cash in ya pocket
made you a man again
and now you let tha fear put your ass in a place
complicated to escape
It's a fools fate
without your word
your a shell of a man
I lost respect for you nigga
we can never be friends
I know i'm runnin' through your head now
what could you do ?
If it was up to you
i'd be dead now
I let tha world know nigga you a coward
You could never be live
until you die
see tha mothafucken bitch in your eye
Type of Nigga, that let tha evil of tha money trap me
when ya see me nigga
ya better holla at me (holla at me)
can't let tha evil of tha money trap me
So when ya see me nigga
Ya better Holla at me

TELL ME WHO PAC WAS TALKING ABOUT WITHOUT EVEN SAYING A NAME?

ENOUGH SAID ABOUT THIS WHLOE STORY...READ IT WORD FOR WORD....OR GO AND RE-COP THAT CD...BEST ONE EVER HANDS DOWN!

AND IF YOU DONT THINK SO YOU BETTER "HOLLA AT ME".
March 15, 2008 9:00 PM
 

DaOne said:

Like a someone before me said this aint no knew info, Pac has been saying this for the longest in his rap and even in the interview he did. The crazy thing is people are so dumb to think that he was wrong for hating them dudes. What the fuck what you do if you got shot 5 times and these niggas looking at you like damn why r u still alive? Yall niggas act like Pac is supposed to be all lovie dovie with these niggas... Believe what you want but fact is Puff and Biggie was there I believe the nigga that got shot 5 times and lived to tell about.
March 15, 2008 9:02 PM
 

MiRKED said:

DAMN I knew puff had something to do with it!!!!
March 15, 2008 9:12 PM
 

jilezy said:

This link has been around for years now. Not that it's anything new, but if you're interested:  

http://www.tupac4u.de/english/nyshooting.htm
March 15, 2008 9:25 PM
 

Cabana da Don said:

puff didn't do it he just knew about it.
March 15, 2008 9:42 PM
 

t-townrep said:

Damn, yo diddy,lil'cease and biggie was wrong for not warning pac about that shit.
everybody thought pac was crazy when he said that they owe him more then to turn thier heads and act like they didn't know them dudes was trying to blow his head off.
look at that interview of biggie and diddy on Tupac Resurrection when they was saying they had nothing to do with the shit.
diddy looked scared and biggie was hiding behind his shades.
how is it that diddy was a punk back then and now he thinks he's bad now?
i hate to say it but if henchman had something to do with these then what happened to his son was probably Karma.
damn and everybody thought 50 was crazy too!
that's some crazy shit and i can't wait til all of this is over.
the '94 quad studio shooting,the '96 las vegas shooting,the '97 l.a. shooting and the '02 queens shooting.

R.I.P
2pac
Notorious B.I.G.
Jam Master Jay
Stretch Walker

what's in the dark will come out one day!
March 15, 2008 9:43 PM
 

bon1bon said:

This is some footage of biggies shooting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iy7Grv3QQM
March 15, 2008 9:45 PM
 

SouthEastLA said:

YEAH I KNEW FROM THE GET GO THAT PUFF HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS SHIT... PAC DIDN'T RIDE ON SOMEBODY JUST TO RIDE ON'EM, HE HAD A REASON TO RIDE ON'EM BEFORE HIT'EM UP HE DIDN'T DISS ANYONE ON WAX TILL THAT SHIT POPPED OFF..... THIS BUSTER PUFF IS FOUL.... I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT JIMMY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS!!!!!!!!! AND THE THING ABOU THIS IS THAT PUFF HAD HIS OWN HOMEBOY SMOKED CUZ OF ALL OF THIS!!!!!!!


R.I.P TO THE LEGAND OF ALL LEGANDS 2PAC

FUCK BAD BOY AS A STAFF RECORD LABEL AND AS A MUTHAFUCKIN CREW AND IF YOU DOWN WITH BAD BOY FUCK YOU TOO!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU PUFF!!!! KARMA IS A BITCH!!!!!!
March 15, 2008 10:02 PM
 

Jpcrack said:

This story grows each year.......don kno what to believe anymore....The only Questtion I have is WHY ?
March 15, 2008 10:04 PM
 

links for 2008-03-16 | rakontur blog said:

March 15, 2008 10:23 PM
 

Str84Ballin said:

Some more about Stretch:

Stretch would be one of Shakur's entourage when Shakur was robbed and attacked at a recording studio in Manhattan. Shakur was shot while Stretch wasn't, which would later raise his suspicion that he was set up and that Stretch, Biggie and others were involved. Stretch and 2Pac had a falling-out afterwards, and the date of his death has bred rumors that 2Pac carried out or influenced the shooting. On the song "Against All Odds" from the Makaveli - the Don Killuminati: 7 Day Theory album, he raps a supposed reference to Stretch:

   And that nigga that was down with me
   Rest his head
   Switched sides, guess his new friends wanted him dead

On this song he also raps about Jimmy Henchman, Haitian Jack and King Tut, the men that supposedly carried out 2Pac's 1994 shooting. [2]

Stretch also had small roles in Shakur's films Juice and Bullet. He also appeared in the film Who's the Man?.

On November 30, 1995, Stretch was killed in an execution-style murder in Queens. This was exactly one year after Tupac's first shooting.

RIP PAC n all the fallen
March 15, 2008 10:26 PM
 

AlmightLatinKingNation said:

@Sac-king07-08...lmfao!!...i know rite...that bitch retarded and she look like a fuckin dude...a ugly dude at that!!!!!
March 15, 2008 10:36 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

dont have time to read this now

but chuck phillips is a professional liar for the latimes & local machine.  he was exposed in a lengthy piece in rolling stone you can google it it's pretty comprehensive.

phillips most recently was colluding to reverse the life sentence & testimony of a arson/muder convict whose testimony connects lapd to biggie's murder.

phillips is maneuvering to have his conviction thrown out in exchange he "forgets" his knowledge of lapd RAMPART cops david mack & rafael perez' connection to big's murder.  mrs. wallace trial against city of l.a. was declared mistrial after lapd detectives were caught concealing files which implicated their cops.  the city was ordered to pay mrs. wallace $1.2 million in legal costs.

the re-trial is scheduled but very recently was ordered in to forced negotiation to encourage settlement.  the city of l.a. is desparate to avoid trial.  

anyway, chuck phillips is a fraud.  google the rolling stone expose.

it is also interesting that the quad shooting originally implicated jimmy henchman, game's manager.
March 15, 2008 10:53 PM
 

JRucker said:

Tupac said:

"I hope my true mutha fuckas know,  this be the realest shit I ever wrote..."

R.I.P. Tupac!
March 15, 2008 10:56 PM
 

bon1bon said:

L.A. Times Responds to Biggie Story
Posted Jan 12, 2006 10:31 AM

To the editor:
Randall Sullivan's claim that The Los Angeles Times tried to keep the lid on evidence implicating rogue police officers in the murder of Notorious B.I.G. lacks any foundation in fact [see The Unsolved Mystery of the Notorious B.I.G.].

The main elements of the murder-conspiracy theory Sullivan expounds were first reported in the Times -- the same Times he now accuses of trying to bury the truth.

Consider just one article from the newspaper's extensive coverage of the B.I.G. case, one published Dec. 9, 1999, on Page One, under the headline: "Ex-LAPD officer is suspect in rapper's slaying."

The article said police were investigating allegations that David Mack, a corrupt ex-cop, conspired with rap entrepreneur Marion "Suge" Knight to have Biggie killed, and that Mack's friend Amir Muhammad pulled the trigger.

Among the supporting details: Mack's black Impala resembled the getaway car; Muhammad looked like a composite sketch of B.I.G.'s assassin; a witness placed Mack at the scene as well; detectives found a shrine to the late Tupac Shakur in Mack's apartment; and much more.

The Times was the first to report this information. When subsequent developments cast doubt on the conspiracy theory, the Times wrote about those as well. But Sullivan makes no mention of the original articles, even as he parrots their contents (without acknowledgment).

In so doing, he forfeits any claim to be taken seriously.

There is no point detailing all of Sullivan's factual errors and false accusations.

Two examples suffice to expose his shoddy tactics.

He faults the Times for overlooking "many details about Muhammad," and cites one: Muhammad's 1998 arrest on a misdemeanor weapons charge. The Times "overlooked" this incident because it was not known at the time to police or to the newspaper -- or to Sullivan, whose 2002 book LAbyrinth, makes no mention of it. Muhammad gave police an alias and a fake birth date and driver's license. Neither police nor the courts picked up on the deception till long afterward.

Sullivan also tries to debunk Chuck Philips' September 2002 article in the Times that said B.I.G. had helped plot the shooting of Shakur, his bitter rival, in Las Vegas in 1996.

Sullivan writes that the piece relied entirely on two named sources. In fact, as Philips' article made clear, he drew on multiple sources, including gang members who witnessed the shooting and one who helped plan it. Their identities, for obvious reasons, could not be revealed.

Sullivan also claims that the Times "was forced" to publish a follow-up article acknowledging evidence that placed Biggie in New York at the time of the shooting. The "evidence" Sullivan refers to did not prove B.I.G.'s presence in New York, and the Times published the story under no compulsion whatever, other than its desire to print the reactions of B.I.G.'s associates and family members.

Philips' story has withstood all challenges to its accuracy, including Sullivan's. It remains the definitive account of the Shakur slaying.

Sincerely,

Marc Duvoisin
Assistant Managing Editor
The Los Angeles Times



Sullivan Replies:

It's irritating to have to waste time defending myself against ridiculous accusations when the real issue is the dishonest reporting of The Los Angeles Times. But, for the record, I did acknowledge the 1999 article Mr. Duvoisin cites, first in my book LAbyrinth, and again in the article I submitted to Rolling Stone. [Editors note: This citation was cut for space from the final article.] That L.A. Times article, by the way, was described by its primary source, former LAPD Detective Russell Poole, as "fucked up." Poole's made it pretty clear that he thinks differently of my work.

What's actually important here, though, is the manner in which the Times undercut its single attempt to report on Poole's theory of the case: With an article (by Chuck Philips) that was one of the worst reported news stories I've ever read, riddled with factual omissions, and failing to address any of the questions raised by Det. Poole.

The LAPD most definitely did know about Amir Muhammad's 1998 arrest for allegedly pulling up alongside an SUV in a black sedan and pointing a gun at the two people inside: in fact, a detective who has testified under oath that he met on numerous occasions with Chuck Philips to discuss this case was the one who investigated the incident for the LAPD. Obviously the Times "overlooked" this incident; they have never reported it.

The Times 2002 article that implicated B.I.G. in the murder of Tupac Shakur was as reckless a piece of reporting as I'm aware of by a major American newspaper. I did not write that the Times relied entirely on two named sources, but merely that only two sources were named in the article. In fact, neither of these two individuals were the source of the claim that B.I.G. paid gang members to murder Tupac; that information came entirely from an anonymous Crip whose claims are so obviously dubious that to rely on them in even a limited sense was questionable, and to make them the sole basis of such a sensational story was utterly irresponsible.

Prior to my recent article's publication, I spent hours on the telephone with Duvoisin and Philips, in what they insisted must be "off-the-record" conversations about their sourcing for the articles in question. Their demand for confidentiality had nothing to do with protecting sources, and everything to do with protecting themselves from the humiliation of having their shoddy work made public. Duvoisin's claim that B.I.G.'s estate has failed to establish his "presence in New York" at the time of Tupac's murder is especially outrageous. It isn't up to the Wallace family to prove anything -- that responsibility lies entirely with the L.A. Times, which made the claims that are in dispute. In the more than three years since that article ran, the Times has not produced a single witness or a shred of evidence to suggest that B.I.G. was even in Las Vegas, let alone involved in Tupac's slaying. Marc Duvoisin's efforts to convince me this wasn't necessary were so pathetic that it embarrasses me to remember them.

I'm hardly the only or even the harshest critic of the L.A. Times' reporting on the Rampart investigation and the Notorious B.I.G. murder. The lead attorney for the Wallace estate, in its lawsuit against the City of Los Angeles, has described the newspaper as "a co-conspirator in the cover-up." In the short time since my critique of the Times appeared in Rolling Stone, those observations have been echoed by numerous Los Angeles-based bloggers and Web reporters, most of them overjoyed that a national publication has finally spoken out about this. Many of those writers have described the relentless distortion of the facts by the Times' as a "scandal." I think that's an appropriate word.

Randall Sullivan
March 15, 2008 11:07 PM
 

luke mccain said:

TUT is the guy that stuck pac up and shot pac at Quad studio he is a O.G from east new york Brooklyn(cypress hills projects) Haitain jack Henchmen   Tut they all know each other TUT is locked up for good the feds got tired of his ass,you see these elite gangsters were extorting bad boy at one time Biggie or none of his crew could deal with these guys so with the extortion comes robberies and so on.When pac was in Clinton correctional faulcility he got cool with alot of new york niggas who knew what happened to him and didnt like TUT so they let pac know what happened and it was on.the truth is in the music just listen to the song feels so good by mase he says in the song rock itching TUT cant get it up while he flashed his rolex in front of the camera the reason he said that is TUT was locked up and Bad Boy wasnt gonna get extorted anymore those cowards were happy as hell....
March 15, 2008 11:13 PM
 

Nola boy said:

IN THE WORDS OF SWEET DADDY, PUFF YOU IN TROUBLE !
March 16, 2008 12:26 AM
 

de brick said:

Good luck Diddy lets not tell everyone the truth EASTSIDE EASTCOAST WE won this shit. lol
March 16, 2008 12:42 AM
 

bipro20 said:

Pistel whipped??? Was that Necessary Ahh?

PAC ALWAYS SAID THAT "PUFF AND BIG" KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

BIG RAN WITH PAC'S IMAGE! HE STOLE GET MONEY!
BIG WAS NEVER POOR!!
BIG WAS NEVER A ROBBER OR KILLER!

IF U LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTRY "THE SHOW"
BIGGIE ADMITS TO WRITING FAKE SHIT!!

March 16, 2008 1:06 AM
 

bipro20 said:

IF U LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTRY "THE SHOW"
BIGGIE ADMITS TO WRITING FAKE SHIT!!

March 16, 2008 1:07 AM
 

aj22 said:

Very interesting.....

50 did name dropped Henchmen in da August 07 issue of the XXL :

50 referred to him as killer Jimmy, then he mentioned what Tupac had said about Henchman in one of his song.

Someone getting shot instead of getting beat up is not too far fetched it does happen all the time sadly, no one really controls another persons actions once $h!t really pops off. I think there is a lot of history that the general public has no clue about and until that comes out who knows.....

Very interesting.  
March 16, 2008 1:28 AM
 

New evidence implicates diddy in 2pac shooting. - Nation Of Hip Hop said:

March 16, 2008 1:39 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

not for nothing tupac was shot soon after he shot 2 atlanta cops & got off on self-defense.

congresswoman delores tucker was on him, FBI been on the scene since NWA.  

Tupac Amaru Shakur is the son of the Black Panthers.  

the people who killed them shot him.  let there be no mistake.

why do you think he ran out the hospital to jada house?

chuck phillips is a counter-intelligence propogandist.

this whole ruse is to apply pressure to the BIGGIE court-ordered settlement negotiations.  DONT SETTLE VOLETTA WALLACE WE WITH YOU!!!
March 16, 2008 2:10 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

i wrote this summary last year-
-----------------------------

Wednesday, April 18, 2007

 Notorious B.I.G.'s family files lawsuit alleging conspiracy
Category: News and Politics

the broadening of accusation beyond convicted armed bank robber while lapd
cop david mack to lapd rampart division crash (like da movie) "community
resources against street hoodlums" unit kingpin cops rafael perez (caught
stealing $1mil in cocaine from evidence room, caught last year trying to get
false license at dmv) & partner nino durden (charged w/attempted murder,
cops to obstruction &c.) & accusing city of los angeles of cover-up is also
indictment against councilman former chief bernard parks for rampart
"clean-up", current chief william bratton for perpetrating "reformed",
"transparent" force, los angeles times for false reports accusing "gang
members" & coastal "rap war" to also throw off tupac murder questions
(already exposed by rolling stone magazine:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/9142533/la_times_responds_to_biggie_story),
the fbi who were heavily involved in 'investigating' tupac & biggie's
murders, the u.s. dept of justice who entered into consent decree w/lapd
after rampart exposure to oversee "reform & progress".

we must have community control of police: all-elected, all-civilian, police
control board!

(check attached pics of biggie & tupac *identical* hits... no connection?)

Notorious B.I.G.'s family files lawsuit alleging conspiracy
The slain rapper's relatives contend that LAPD officers linked to the
Rampart scandal played a role in the musician's death.
By J. Michael Kennedy, Times Staff Writer
April 18, 2007

The family of slain rap star Notorious B.I.G. has filed a lawsuit alleging
that Los Angeles police officers closely connected to the Rampart corruption
scandal were involved in his 1997 killing.

The suit, filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court on Monday, alleges that
former Officers Raphael Perez and Nino Durden were involved in the shooting,
which took place as Notorious B.I.G., born Christopher Wallace and also
known as Biggie Smalls, was leaving a music industry party at the Petersen
Automotive Museum in the Mid-Wilshire district.

The suit alleges that Perez conspired with David Mack, a former police
officer now in prison for bank robbery, to kill the rapper and that Durden
was Perez's partner when the murder occurred. Both Perez and Durden were
later arrested and charged with stealing drugs and other offenses in the
Rampart scandal.

The suit contends that Perez "has made specific statements that he, together
with David Mack, conspired to murder and participated in the murder of
Christopher Wallace."

Wallace was waiting at a stoplight in a sport utility vehicle when his
killers pulled up in a dark Chevrolet Impala, opened fire and sped off. The
assailant has never been found.

The killing spawned numerous books, documentaries and magazine articles
exploring possible conspiracy theories involving rapper Tupac Shakur, who
was killed six months earlier.

The suit alleges that Perez was a member of a street gang and was working as
a "covert agent" for Death Row Records at the same time he was working as a
police officer.

The suit estimates that financial losses as a result of Wallace's death
could be as much as $500 million. In addition to Perez and Durden, the
lawsuit also names the city of L.A. The suit contends the city covered up
Perez and Durden's involvement because it would have made the city liable in
a lawsuit.

*

----------------------------------------------------------
michael.kennedy@latimes.com

March 16, 2008 2:12 AM
 

SEAN-THA-SUKAFREE-DON said:

FUCC GETTIN AT PUFF OR JIMMY FOR GETTIN PAC JUST SHOT.............................................................................................................................................................................................SUGE HAD HIM KILLED!!!......................FOR ALL THEM MASTERS!!!!!!!!!
March 16, 2008 2:19 AM
 

jubilee.shine said:

here is the rolling stone piece that show that la times' chuck phillips is a fraud in the service of the enemies of hiphop-

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/notoriousbig/articles/story/8898338/the_unsolved_mystery_of_the_notorious_big
March 16, 2008 2:22 AM
 

goopunch2456 said:

puff and suge sat down had a meeting and laid out a plan to get them both up outta here puff should be charged with his death we already know pac was on the verge of finding a new deal after his death row deal.

its funny because when i read this article i wasnt surprised at all because i had no doubts that puff was behind most of that east coast west coast b.s. been tellin niggas for a long time puff aint no squeeky clean type dude. hes a street nigga without the bullshit thug image. he took too many L's when shyne bussed off in that club. lost an artist and one of the baddest chicks in the game. behind closed doors puff run it like a real criminal enterprise
March 16, 2008 2:37 AM
 

TRUTHFROMDABOOT said:

Puff is a second generation gangsta, here me out before you start to hate.  His father was a Street nigga well connected with Frank Lucas and other Harlem gangsta's.  He is the future just like the KKK is not rolling around on the back of pick up truck lynching niggas anymore instead of Jim Crow his son is James C. Crow MBA, loan officier who refuse to give a nigga a loan.  Tut, Lucas, and Black Mafia knew that this lil nigga was smart and seen that he could make decent Music yall forget puff got into music doin R&B Jodeci, Mary, and Al B. Sure type shit they decide to put some bread behind him to make themselves some legit money clean up some dirty money.  Them gangsta's bank rolled this nigga, but his lil punk ass got a lil street in him and street rules apply, you mind you own business when hood shit is about to take place.  PUFF and BIG damn well knew the shit was about to pop off but they could say shit.  If they would have open their mouths the world would not know who Big or puff was today because them niggas would have broke the rules and regardless of who puff father was he would have got dealt with.  ANY REAL STREET NIGGA KNOW THIS.  It's sad but it's true by the same token everybody understand why PAC was upset and aired the shit out.  I love PAC and think he is the greatest of all time at the same time I cant blame puff or BIG for not saying anything, warning PAC means taking on the BEEF them lil niggas didn't want that on them.  Big was like 22 in 94' puff was like 25' them niggas didn't want that heat and I cant blame them!  ONE    
March 16, 2008 2:51 AM
 

FORTY MILLION said:

jimmy wife keep crying about her lil boy getting smack,hoe wut you gone to do when jimmy in that box bitch.dats sum fuck up shit i still miss my nigga rip pac,the game aint the same and these niccas still in the game like the shit aint never happen.they know pac was the truth much love to his moms they should lease be real and gone esplain they true side of the story why they did it,if you can respect it or not.the game the rapper i did like but fuck dat nigga, i didnt know dats the same jimmy he working for letting dat nigga still eat.they bleed just like you,i usually dont be on shit like dis but its fuck up its so many hoe ass niggas in the game.puff you got to pay me to stay off your ass i will see you.


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March 16, 2008 3:14 AM
 

GLOBALHUSTLA said:

Here we go I'm speechless and not because of the distorted facts lol I'm dyng at the sista thinking pac got killed because he knew government. shit the story is semi true if you so called authentic niggas from N.Y. got your ears to the street 4 real you know what really happend I noticed TUT's name and Wolfs name R.I.P. was left out... leave it alone SMH !and to the dudes saying puff should go to jail what happend to all the niggas need to keep it street bullshit yall talk? so its okay to snitch if your fav rappper is dead lol....  I know I'm going to get smashed for saying this first off R.I.P. to stretch what yall niggas know about live squad nothing Queens stand up.. But Pac was not whut you niggas think period he was a actor a real talented one at that. The funny shit is pac would have never even dissed NY if niggas from uptop would ave bonded him out..... Pac got caught up in a life that he wasnt really built for.this I know as Truth anybody from QUEENS know what it is pac and all the drama he got into later in his career was based on trying authenticate his self as a street dude same with BIG neither one of them dudes  were heavy in the streets before there rap career. Its a sad case  of big fish in lil water but what happens is sometimes those lil fish get thrown in the sea.. And to the person who mentioned the atlanta police incident it was two off duty cops and rumor has it it wasnt even pac who did it but dont act like pac was out there guns blazing shooting uniformed cops.........TUPAC WAS A TALNTED DUDE WITH ALOT TO SAY BUT HE LIVED A CONFLICTING LIFE  he didnt know who he wanted to be and I feel yall do him a disservice. When yall paint him as this thug. its sad because pac basiccally got killed for trying to be down.. and to all you semi thug 1/4 pimps that are going to talk big shit behind my post do a lil research before you fill the box with ignorance...
March 16, 2008 3:18 AM
 

Tha_Cypha said:

Pac said it all in "Against All Odds".. Hell even 50 dropped some knowledge bout the situation in "Many Men"..

I personally have always believed that Puffy was a fake ass n***a... And that Biggie either knowingly or unknowingly turned his back on a good friend. They made their beds and lie in them to this day. We may never know for sure, I just hope they're resting in peace.

Oh and a sidenote.. It's a pretty well known fact that Pac had Stretch killed the year after the Quad Shooting..
March 16, 2008 3:41 AM
 

el unico said:

this mess is old.  you dont know what to belief anymore.  question is... is life imitating art or is art imitating life or are they all just lying?
March 16, 2008 4:09 AM
 

J-DUBB THA YOUNG HECTIC said:

some of y'all dudes givin up more info than the article. we as fans miss the hell out them brothas, thats all i know, thats all i sayin!
http://www.myspace.com/jdubbthayounghectic  


March 16, 2008 4:44 AM
 

Ronnie Mo said:

The homie Pac was right. I never wanted to believe the nigga but this nigga aint lying.

Where there's smoke there's fire.
March 16, 2008 5:02 AM
 

ONEdeepNOsleep said:

tupac wasnt no dumb nigga he knew who tried to kill him....all that shit he was rapping about was true....u see all them names this dude callin out shit they the same names in tupac songs
March 16, 2008 5:44 AM
 

T.Hearns said:

King Sac, I can't believe u came out with that Daz quote.  That was some archive shit, off of that Dillinger & Young Gotti album.  I don't know what to believe anymore.  Just like we won't know what happened to JFK until 2029 because the government files are sealed.  They know what happened.  They know what happened to Big.  They know what happened to Butto.  We will be old as fuck before we get the full story.  
March 16, 2008 5:46 AM
 

Yadadamean said:

Im takin back all my Sean John shits and throwin away my Unforgivable...yeah, dats right....take dat, take dat, take dat!
March 16, 2008 6:01 AM
 

westcoastdon said:

damn I hate you P diddy,, let me see you face to face
March 16, 2008 6:39 AM
 

BigSarge4 said:

Media is what is wrong with this world today. You tell me how the  fuck this white "reporter" dig this deep in the Hip Hop Underworld to unmask this shit! Who the fuck is gonna talk to this guy? I do believe Pac but I do think he even he wasn't thinking on a broader spectrum and this is way bigger than B.I.G, Henchman and Diddy.
March 16, 2008 8:06 AM
 

Evidence Says Big and Puff Knew of Pac Ambush « 4hiphop’s Weblog said:

March 16, 2008 8:16 AM
 

K.r.u.n.k.y said:

Fuck badboy as a staff, a record label and a motherfuckin crew !
and if you wanna be down with Bad Boy then FUCK YOU TOO !
March 16, 2008 8:29 AM
 

KOSGOD said:

I don't get it. Why is it ok for people to accept 2Pac lyrics of him explaining events that went down in his raps.. cool.

But when 50 cent did it, he's considering being a snitch?

What's up with that?


Also, Puff doesn't have that much clout to make something like that happen. Yea, they probably did know about it but he surely couldn't have made it happen as if he's some "NY Mob Don".

With friends like that, who needs enemies.

March 16, 2008 8:35 AM
 

TRUTHFROMDABOOT said:

@KOSGOD

FIF was talking about more than the shots he caugth, he start speaking on Preme and them money and how they was getting it.  When he went to the police station and filed that Restraining order against Murder INC. we all know he was down there talking about shit he had no business.  Telling the police who you think shot you is one thing but trying to take down Murder Inc. and Preme personally not lyrically which he did but by working with them people was a no-no.  When he started talking bout preme that brought heat on a lot of people SUGE on the west and the King of the streets down south J. Prince.        
March 16, 2008 9:03 AM
 

TRUTHFROMDABOOT said:

THE Fact is BIG and Puff knew he was about to get dealt with.  G-Code says you mind yo own business unless you want the same heat that nigga is about to catch.  PAC must thought they were crew obiviously Puff and Big didn't think so or they would have gave him the heads up and dealt with the situation however it came.  I only know 1 dude besides my family I would catch that type of heat for.  ALL you dudes dissing puff and big for not saying anything, think about how many niggas you will give your life or do life for because that how hood conflicts end.  Then ask yourself do you blame them for not letting him know the shit was about to pop off.  Pray for him, he supposed to be a street dude so he knows the rules to the game.  Hope for the best.  That nigga didn't die and I think puff and big was happy that he didn't at that moment, it really was nothing they could do if they didn't want that beef to come to them.      
March 16, 2008 9:53 AM
 

MusicWorth! said:

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March 16, 2008 9:53 AM
 

BumpHipHop: The Hip Hop News Source » New Evidences Surfaces In 1994 2Pac Shooting said:

March 16, 2008 10:04 AM
 

bv3000 said:

@  TRUTHFROMDABOOT
THANK YOU! you get it! it was also said after big died that he tried to tell pac several times,he called pac to have a meeting  and he kept saying  he was to busy to meet with big.

If pac was just supposed to get "roughed up" by some mob figures you not gonna get involved. unless you want that Big tried to drop pac a jewel. pac didnt think it was urgent. it goes down pac is mad cause now he knows for sure BIg knew about it cause he tried to tell him.
Yall forget or maybe dont know that once you get to a certain level of success or to get to a certain level of success you have to deal with  BIG TIME people.  BIg and Puff were pawns no real power only star power, and would be used they war real power wanted to use them, thats reality (real gangsters want you to do something they aint asking they telling!)
March 16, 2008 10:40 AM
 

JAH JAH said:

I think TUPAC is alive..the concept of Machiavellian is to come back after faking your existance. He made his money and ran like a legend. he saw what hip hop was turning into a bunch of bull Fighting.. I bet if he was still in the game 50 Cent would be working his ropes at taking down TuPac.
The Industry is a fake now.. Check this site to see how many songs,videos,  and art was ripped off from me.. a white female rapper

        http://www.mcjahjah.com
March 16, 2008 11:44 AM
 

Jiggagirl007 said:

T.Hearns,
I was thinking the same thing when I first read this story, people know who did it, and it will be some years down the road until we find out.

March 16, 2008 12:04 PM
 

The Mexican said:

@ KOSGOD
because 50 told the police to listen to his lyrics to answer their questions.
March 16, 2008 12:11 PM
 

mr.shortfuze said:

big and puff was supposed to be friends with tupac but they knew he was gonna get robbed and didnt say anything so yeah it was a set up and pac knew it and u just cant rob a thug they had to shoot him i blame puff
March 16, 2008 12:59 PM
 

Angelito1986 said:

Oye first of all we already know Puff is a foul dude. Hes been dirty a long time but it'll catch up to him. I can totally understand why Pac did Hit Em Up. He was a good dude who didnt deserve to get dogged the way he did. He got heated just as anybody would. His fatal flaw was letting his emotions take over rational thinking. Calling peoples names out without thinking is bound to make a whole list of enemies. Yo I love Pac but then again i got MAD love for Chino XL. There was no need to call him out. Anyway its so sad that this shit had to go down and foul shiit like this still happens among us everyday. Puff aint gonna live forever though. Things catch up
March 16, 2008 1:16 PM
 

GLOBALHUSTLA said:

And as far as fif I wish you niggas stop watching the DVDS like I say on every post I am from 134 and guy brew the block that curtis is from its One block so don't run the you dont know him shit. as for the so called restraining order it wasnt fif it was marvin and that was done because murder inc was on top and yayo was trying  to get payed. second off if you idiots  have every been in a fight where police is involved.... the state has the option to pick up the case and by law they put the 100 feet order in effect.. as far as him talking about the supreme team @ the boot.. all info he said about the team was all public knowledge that you could have read in the daily news when the feds cracked up the team smh you lil dudes say anything.. you can't even get supreme. BIMI (WHO WAS A.R AT DEF JAM FOR AWHILE. BLACK JUST R.IP. who actually finnanced JARULE when to say 50 snitched. Thats like saying AMERCAN GANGSTA IS SNITCHING do you know what snitching is do you know what it is to turn states evidence...Shit you cant even get my Nigga smurf to say he a snitch. leave the dvds alone man. Infact the fact that young jeezy must be a snitch by screaming BMF.. MY POINY IS YOU CANT SNITCH ON SOMEONE who has already been convicted of a crime DUH. like somebody said  If FIF  is a snitch isnt pac a snitch and ac had no street cred period  and I'm not saying you need to be a crimanal to be talented it really doesnt matter good music is good music.. But I promise pac was snitching in VIBE and on records and nobody was in jail i t was a unsolved incedent that happened at the studio and he str8 said names times and dates so I'm thinking pac may be a lil snitchy lol
March 16, 2008 1:28 PM
 

coolidgeforpresident said:

Pac was a snitch period! he put his opinion public when at the time nobody was putting current events life street events in music like he did with all his name dropping....this was a different time. this is the 90's.  You have to put that in perspective.  everyone on here is commenting that puff is soft or he knew something.  This is a time with no cell phones no nothing digital.  If he did know how was he supposed to tell pac.  and if he did know why would he tell him.  Pac was a grown man with a personality that rubbed a LOT of people the wrong way.  Puff was not strong enough to stop anything.  Puff was in his early 20's. "IF" there was a plan he was not on the level of the names involved.  These are people that you dont get in their way.  Pac had his own personal relationship with all of those involved, and he was an outsider.  And to be honest I dont believe this story at all.  how would someone not involved know what people involved didnt know...lol  now because of pacs mouth running people that deserved respect are being questioned.  And he put together this conspiracy in his rhymes because he purposely wanted to cause issues on the media. he had a plan and his plan included him still being around.
March 16, 2008 1:42 PM
 

dwill1 said:

@GLOBALHUSTLA                                                                                                                                                     1ST OFF MUCH RESPECT, THAT WAS A VERY ACCURATE DISCRIPTION OF PAC AND BIG. BUT I THINK MOST OF US NEW THAT HE WAS NOT RAISED A THUG. PAC WAS A SMART DUDE THAT ATTENDED A PERFORMING ARTS SCHOOL. BUT HE WAS ALWAYS AROUND THE THUG ELEMENT CAUSE HE FROM THE PROJECTS SO BEING A THUG DAM NEAR CAME NATURAL. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT. THIS IS ABOUT HIM BEING SET UP, BASED ON THE FACT HE WENT AGAINST THE GRAIN. ONE THING I KNOW FOR SURE, IS THAT NOT EVERY THUG WAS A THUG SINCE BIRTH. SOME THUGS WERE FORCED TO BE THAT, THEY PUT HIM IN A POSITION WHERE HE HAD TO BRING THAT SIDE OUT IN FULL EFFECT. YOU ARE RIGHT HE WAS NOT WHAT ALOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT HE WAS, TO ME PAC WAS A MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER FOR NIGGA'S LIKE MYSELF BACK IN THE EARLY 90'S. WE WERE IN THE STREET'S EVERYDAY THUGGING WITH OUT A LIMIT. AND THE WAY THIS NIGGA  DELIVERED HIS FLOW WAS DAM NEAR LIKE HE WAS WITH YOU THE PREVIOUS NIGHT YA FEEL ME. I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT WHERE YOU FROM BUT OUT HERE HE GET LOVE FROM YOUNG AND OLD. SO FOR THESE NIGGA'S TO SET UP AND ULTIMATLY KILL A NIGGA THAT WAS REACHING A WHOLE GENERATION OF THUGS IS UNFORGIVABLE. IF THIS COMES OUT TRUE SEAN "PUFF DADDY" COMBS, ANDRE "SNEAKY MOTHERFUCKER" HARREL, JACQUES "HATIAN JACK" AGNANT, JIMMY "HENCHMAN" ROSEMOND AND I AM SURE A COUPLE OTHER MUTHFUCKA'S WILL BE INDICTED AND START SINGING LIKE ALICIA KEYS WHEN SHE LIVE ON STAGE. THESE RICH ASS NIGGA'S DO NOT WANT TO GO TO PRISON. ROSEMOND AND JACK MIGHT STAND TALL. BUT PUFFFFY AND THAT OTHER GOOFY LOOKING MUTHAFUCKA OWE THEY GONE TELL YOU CAN BELEIVE THAT.        
March 16, 2008 1:49 PM
 

New Evidence Surfaces In Tupac Quad Shooting | SP1200 said:

March 16, 2008 1:55 PM
 

MiRKED said:

R.I.P. TUPAC

DIddy your hoe..what comes around goes around
March 16, 2008 1:58 PM
 

Dr. E said:

People romanticize Tupac because of his lyrics, but let's not forget he was a back up dancer for Digital Underground. Pac was a clown and he owed some NY dudes some money. First they set him up on that rape charge then they went to beat his ass. Pac went for his gun and the rest is history. Not a single bit of this is new. I do question Puff's level of involvement though. Somebody close to the situation knew when and where pac was gonna be, but that didn't have to be Puff. Henchman still got people all over everywhere. Dude just shot up Yayo's mother's crib you think he needed' Puff to help him set up Pac? He's obviously been doing that street thing for a long time, I think he could've handled that without help from the spoiled son of a Harlem gangster. Picture Phil Leatardo dealing with AJ Soprano.
March 16, 2008 2:13 PM
 

TWON THE DON said:

One love, one love, one thug
One nation, twenty-one gun salute)
I'm hopin my true motherfuckers know
This be the realest shit I ever wrote
Against all odds, up in the studio, gettin blowed
To the truest shit I ever spoke

Twenty-one gun salute, dressed in fatigue, black jeans and boots
Disappeared in the crowd, all you seen was troops
This little nigga named Nas thinks he live like me
Talkin bout he left the hospital took five like me
You living fantasies, nigga I reject your deposit
We shook Dre punk ass, now we out of the closet
Mobb Deep wonder why nigga blowed them out
Next time grown folks talk, nigga close your mouth
Peep me, I take this war shit deeply
Done seen too many real players fall to let these bitch niggas beat me
Puffy lets be honest you a punk or you will see me with gloves
Remember that shit you said to Vibe about me bein a thug
You can tell the people you roll with whatever you want
But you and I know what's going on
Payback, I knew you bitch niggas from way back
Witness me strapped with Macs, knew I wouldn't play that
All you old rappers trying to advance
It's all over now, take it like a man
Niggas lookin like Larry Holmes, flabby and sick
Tryin to player hate on my shit, you eat a fat dick
Let it be known this is how you made me
Lovin how I got you niggas crazy
Against all odds
Hopin my thug motherfuckers know
This be the realest shit I ever wrote
Against all odds, up in the studio, gettin blowed
To the truest shit I ever spoke, against all odds
Hopin my true motherfuckers know
This be the realest shit I ever wrote
I heard he was light skinned, stocky with a Haitian accent
Jewelery, fast cars and he's known for flashing (What's his name???)
Listen while I take you back (NIGGA SAY HIS NAME!) and lace this rap
A real live tale about a snitch named Haitian Jack
Knew he was workin for the feds, same crime, different trials
Nigga, picture what he said, and did I mention
Promised a payback, Jimmy Henchman, in due time
I know you bitch niggas is listenin, The World Is Mine
Set me up, wet me up, niggas stuck me up
Heard the guns bust but you tricks never shut me up
Touch one of mine on everything I own
I'll destroy everything you touch, play the game nigga
All out warfare, eye for eye
Last words to a bitch nigga, "WHY YOU LIE?!?"
Now you gotta watch your back, now watch your front
Here we come, gunshots too tut, now you stuck
Fuck the rap game, nigga this M-O-B
So believe me we enemies, I go against all odds
I'm hopin my true motherfuckers know
This be the realest shit I ever wrote
Against all odds, up in the studio, gettin blowed
To the truest shit I ever spoke
I'm hopin my true motherfuckers know
This be the realest shit I ever wrote
Against all odds
Puffy gettin robbed like a bitch, to hide the fact
he did some shit he shouldn't have did, so we ride em for that
And that nigga that was down for me, restin dead
Switch sides, guess his new friends wanted him dead
Probably be murdered for the shit that I said
I bring the real, be a legend, breathin or dead
Lord listen to me
God don't like ugly, It Was Written
Hey Nas, your whole damn style is bitten
You heard my melody, read about my life in the papers
All my run-ins with authorities, felonious capers
Now you wanna live my life, so what's a hasa Nas?
Niggas that don't rhyme right, you've seen too many movies
Load em up against the wall, close his eyes
Since you lie you die, GOODBYE
Let the real live niggas hear the truth from me
What would you do if you was me nigga
Against all odds
I'm hopin my true motherfuckers know
This be the realest shit I ever wrote
Against all odds, up in the studio, gettin blowed
To the truest shit I ever spoke
[repeat]
Against all odds
[Twenty-one gun salute]
One love to my true thug niggas (Outlaw! Outlaw! Outlaw!)
Twenty-one gun salute to my niggas that die in the line of duty
Representin to the fullest bein soldiers with military minds
that play the rules of the game, twenty-one gun salute
I salute you my niggas, stay strong
I ride for you, I rhyme for you, I roll for you, it's all for you
To all you bitch made niggas, I'm comin for you
Against all odds, I don't care who the fuck you is, nigga
You touch me I'm at you
I know you motherfuckers think that I forgot
Hell no I ain't forgot nigga
I just remember what you told me
You said don't go to war unless I got my money behind me
Aight, I got my money right here, now I want war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytrbFlqrex0
March 16, 2008 2:19 PM
 

TWON THE DON said:

Hot dogs: The Cancer Prevention Coalition recommends that children should not eat more than 12 hot dogs per month because of the risk of cancer. If you must have your hot dog fix, look for those without sodium nitrite listed among the ingredients.

Processed meats and bacon: These meats almost always contain the same sodium nitrite found in hot dogs. You can find some without nitrites, but you'll have to look for them in natural grocers or health food stores. Bacon is also high in saturated fat, which contributes to the risk of cancers, including breast cancer. Limiting your consumption of processed meats and saturated fats also benefits the heart.

Doughnuts: Doughnuts contain hydrogenated oils, white flour, sugar, and acrylamides. Essentially, they're one of the worst cancer foods you can possibly eat. Reader's Digest calls doughnuts "disastrous" as a breakfast food, and many experts agree it's probably one of the worst ways to start the day.

French fries: Fries are made with hydrogenated oil and fried at high temperatures. Some chains even add sugar to their fry recipe to make them even more irresistible. Not only do they clog your arteries with saturated fat and trans fat, they also contain acrylamides. They should be called "cancer fries," not French fries.

Chips / crackers / cookies: These generally contain white flour and sugar as well as trans fats, but it's not enough to simply look for these ingredients on the label; you have to actually "decode" the ingredients list that food manufacturers use to deceive consumers. They do this by hiding ingredients (such as hiding MSG in yeast extract, or by fiddling with serving sizes so they can claim the food is trans fat free, even when it contains trans fats (the new Girl Scout cookies use this trick).

Besides avoiding these foods, what else can consumers do to reduce their risk of cancer? The main things are simple: Eat unprocessed foods and base your diet largely on plants. Consume foods that have omega-3 fats and other essential fatty acids. Eat lots of fruits and vegetables; many common ones have known cancer-fighting properties. Get regular vigorous exercise, since tumors cannot thrive in highly oxygenated environments. Keep your blood sugar stable to avoid being an all-you-can-eat buffet for cancer cells.

Eat foods high in natural vitamin C, a nutrient that deters the conversion of nitrite into nitrosamine and promotes healthy immune function. Make sure you get adequate amounts of cancer-fighting vitamin D through exposure to sunlight -- about 10 to 15 minutes each day if you have fair skin, or ten times as long if you have dark skin pigmentation. Stay well hydrated to ensure that your body rids itself of toxins. Avoid smoking and don't use conventional fragrance, cosmetics and personal care products -- virtually all of them contain cancer-causing chemicals.
March 16, 2008 2:23 PM
 

TWON THE DON said:

1. Every person has cancer cells in the body. These cancer cells do not show up in the standard tests until they have multiplied to a few billion. When doctors tell cancer patients that there are no more cancer cells in their bodies after treatment, it just means the tests are unable to detect the cancer cells because they have not reached the detectable size.

2. Cancer cells occur between 6 to more than 10 times in a person's lifetime.

3. When the person's immune system is strong the cancer cells will be destroyed and prevented from
multiplying and forming tumors.

4. When a person has cancer it indicates the person has multiple nutritional deficiencies. These could be
due to genetic, environmental, food and lifestyle factors.

5. To overcome the multiple nutritional deficiencies, changing diet and including supplements
will strengthen the immune system. Read:  a cheap used copy of: "Foods To Fight Cancer" by Richard Beliveau Ph.D., I put those words into ABEBOOKS search engine and got:

 Foods to Fight Cancer (ISBN: 0756628679)
Beliveau, Richard Bookseller: Mary's Store (Bohemia,, NY, U.S.A.) Bookseller Rating: 5-star rating
Price: US$ 10.00 Book Description: DK ADULT. PAPERBACK. Book Condition: New. 0756628679 BRAND NEW FROM PUBLISHER. Bookseller Inventory # DK.249 ---- SO IT IS OUT THERE!

6. Chemotherapy involves poisoning the rapidly-growing cancer cells and also destroys
rapidly-growing healthy cells in the bone marrow, gastro-intestinal tract etc, and can cause organ
damage, like liver, kidneys, heart, lungs, etc. So think carefully. There are vegetables that chemo you.
broccoli rappini. There are substances that kill topical cancers. BLACK SALVE

7. Radiation while destroying cancer cells also burns, scars and damages healthy cells, tissues and
organs. Again, seek organic chemo and organic black salve.

8. Initial treatment with chemotherapy and radiation will often reduce tumor size. However prolonged use of
chemotherapy and radiation do not result in more tumor destruction.

9. When the body has too much toxic burden from chemotherapy and radiation the immune system is either
compromised or destroyed, hence the person can succumb to various kinds of infections and complications.

10. Chemotherapy and radiation can cause cancer cells to mutate and become resistant and difficult to
destroy. Surgery can also cause cancer cells to spread to other sites.

11. An effective way to battle cancer is to starve the cancer cells by not feeding it with the foods it
needs to multiply.

CANCER CELLS FEED ON:
1. Sugar which  cuts off one important food supply to the cancer
cells. Sugar substitutes like NutraSweet, Equal,
Spoonful, etc. are made with Aspartame and it is
harmful. A better natural substitute would be Manuka
honey or  molasses but only in very small amounts. Table salt
has a chemical added to make it white in color. Better
alternative is Bragg's amino's or sea salt. (MY
Comment: Use Agave as a sweetener)

2. Milk causes the body to produce mucus, especially
in the gastro-intestinal tract. Cancer feeds on
mucus. By cutting off milk and substituting with
unsweetened soy milk cancer cells are being starved.
(My comment: Use organic rice dream or small amounts
of organic soy milk)

3. Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment. A meat-based diet is acidic and it is best to eat fish, and a little chicken rather than beef or pork. Meat also contains livestock antibiotics, growth hormones and parasites, which are all harmful, especially to people with cancer.

4. A diet made of 80% fresh vegetables and juice, whole grains, seeds, nuts and a little fruits help put the body into an alkaline environment. About 20% can be from cooked food including beans. Fresh vegetable juices provide live enzymes that are easily absorbed and reach down to cellular levels within 15 minutes to nourish and enhance growth of healthy cells. To obtain live enzymes for building healthy cells try and drink fresh vegetable juice (most vegetables including bean sprouts) and eat some raw vegetables 2 or 3 times a day. Enzymes are
destroyed at temperatures of 104 degrees F (40 degrees C).

5. Avoid coffee, tea, and chocolate, which have high caffeine. Green tea is a better alternative and has
cancer-fighting properties. Water-best to drink purified water, or filtered, to avoid known toxins and heavy metals in tap water. Distilled water is acidic, avoid it.

March 16, 2008 2:24 PM
 

Cizaman said:

first fuck Puffy and Bad Boy as a staff and a label, Puffy is a bitch nigga, yea he got the mob on his side and that is the only reason he alive, Second PAc and Big a be alive if he wasnt a bitch, see Puff has been Mob connected since the beginning of his pussy ass label, anybody wanna flex for Puff come on, he is a bitch i would spit in is proactive face and beat his pussy ass, as a real rap artist puffy couldnt sign me  ever
March 16, 2008 2:28 PM
 

Diesel Locc said:

puffy is sofft ass bitch   this nigga should be the one who got shot  . FCUK BADBOY RECORDS



March 16, 2008 2:36 PM
 

Cizaman said:

P.S. its Black Ciza Sosay and im at www.myspace.com/fammgodfather I am in Alabama now but from New Orleans, Puffy or any Bad Girl wanna fuck with a real nigga holla, Puff been a bitch since he and Heavy D got them people killed in the concert n NY at the Community College, remember DAt? Oh Puff lovers you to can be a rapper, his fake Mob connected as got writers all across the country cause he is talentless, is Pac and Big was talent, Biggie is death cause his "friend" let him get hit up in LA, a hit for a hit, Cocksucker, you got blood on your hands, your time is soon up, Maybe not the Mob gets nice money laundred by the label any nigga can see it, Puff is a BITCH. www.myspace.com/fammgodfather
Oh, Im connected to, eard of the Gambino Family? Fuck wth Bad Girl I fucking dare you and your Mob bosses. You know he don't own Sean John right, the mob needed more money so Puffy girl had to license his name he gets like 8% if dat. do your reseach. www.myspace.com/fammgodfather,
PUFFY IS A BITCH MADE mob puppet.
March 16, 2008 2:38 PM
 

ACCESSMUSIK.COM Hip Hop BLOG | News, Reviews, Rumors and Rap Music Videos said:

Nearly 15 years after Tupac Shakur was pistol-whipped, shot five times and left for dead outside a New York recording studio, new evidence has allegedly surfaced implicating two associates of entertainment mogul Sean "Diddy" Combs for orchestrating
March 16, 2008 2:48 PM
 

dwill1 said:

@TWON THE DON said:
Hot dogs: The Cancer Prevention Coalition recommends that children should not eat more than 12 hot dogs per month because of the risk of cancer. If you must have your hot dog fix, look for those without sodium nitrite listed among the ingredients.

Processed meats and bacon: These meats almost always contain the same sodium nitrite found in hot dogs. You can find some without nitrites, but you'll have to look for them in natural grocers or health food stores. Bacon is also high in saturated fat, which contributes to the risk of cancers, including breast cancer. Limiting your consumption of processed meats and saturated fats also benefits the heart.

Doughnuts: Doughnuts contain hydrogenated oils, white flour, sugar, and acrylamides. Essentially, they're one of the worst cancer foods you can possibly eat. Reader's Digest calls doughnuts "disastrous" as a breakfast food, and many experts agree it's probably one of the worst ways to start the day.

French fries: Fries are made with hydrogenated oil and fried at high temperatures. Some chains even add sugar to their fry recipe to make them even more irresistible. Not only do they clog your arteries with saturated fat and trans fat, they also contain acrylamides. They should be called "cancer fries," not French fries.

Chips / crackers / cookies: These generally contain white flour and sugar as well as trans fats, but it's not enough to simply look for these ingredients on the label; you have to actually "decode" the ingredients list that food manufacturers use to deceive consumers. They do this by hiding ingredients (such as hiding MSG in yeast extract, or by fiddling with serving sizes so they can claim the food is trans fat free, even when it contains trans fats (the new Girl Scout cookies use this trick).

Besides avoiding these foods, what else can consumers do to reduce their risk of cancer? The main things are simple: Eat unprocessed foods and base your diet largely on plants. Consume foods that have omega-3 fats and other essential fatty acids. Eat lots of fruits and vegetables; many common ones have known cancer-fighting properties. Get regular vigorous exercise, since tumors cannot thrive in highly oxygenated environments. Keep your blood sugar stable to avoid being an all-you-can-eat buffet for cancer cells.

Eat foods high in natural vitamin C, a nutrient that deters the conversion of nitrite into nitrosamine and promotes healthy immune function. Make sure you get adequate amounts of cancer-fighting vitamin D through exposure to sunlight -- about 10 to 15 minutes each day if you have fair skin, or ten times as long if you have dark skin pigmentation. Stay well hydrated to ensure that your body rids itself of toxins. Avoid smoking and don't use conventional fragrance, cosmetics and personal care products -- virtually all of them contain cancer-causing chemicals.
                                                                                      LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! BOY YOU CRAZY AS HELL BUT IT IS ALL TRUE.    
March 16, 2008 2:55 PM
 

DEKALBCOUNTY said:

All the niggaz who were suppose to be down for pac, so called "gangstas" ride or die to the end!  Did nothing just sat back like little bitches and fell off into oblivion
March 16, 2008 3:45 PM
 

TWON THE DON said:

  @dwill1  
JUST TRYING TO KICK THE SHIT WE NEED TO LEARN
March 16, 2008 3:58 PM
 

dwill1 said:

FEDS DIDN'T KNOW MUCH WHEN PAC GOT SHOT. GOT A KITE FROM THE PENS TOLD ME TUT GOT KNOCKED. I AIN'T GONE SPELL IT OUT FA YOU MUTHAFUCKAS ALL THE TIME. ARE YOU ILITERATE NIGGA YOU CAN'T READ BETWEEN THE LINES. IN THE BIBLE IT SAYS WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND. HOMO SHOT ME THREE WEEKS LATER HE GOT SHOT DOWN. NOW I REALIZE I AM HERE FOR A REAL REASON. CAUSE HE GOT HIT LIKE I GOT HIT BUT HE AIN'T FUCKING BREATHING.
March 16, 2008 4:04 PM
 

SuperGangster said:

nobody cant rob a thug, they needed to kill him with the gun.. 2pac said it ,, live by the gun so you die by the gun... fake scared ass p diddy nigga....
March 16, 2008 4:21 PM
 

BiGGIE & PUFFY KNEW!!!!!! - TalkAboutRap.com said:

March 16, 2008 4:27 PM
 

stateofgrace said:

YOU BLACK GUY'S ARE PATHETIC. YOU GOT TOUGH GUY'S LIKE SAC_QUEEN AND JEADA DISRESPECTING A WOMAN. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MAKE'S BLACK MEN FEEL TOUGH BEATING ON THEIR WOMAN. CALLING THEM UGLY. I HEAR YA'LL LIKE TO BEAT YOUR WOMAN. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T LIKE TO SEE YA'LL WITH OUR'S. YOU DON'T HAVE NO CLASS.

YOU GROWN MEN WORSHIPP TUPAC DON'T YOU. I'AM SO HAPPY HE'S DEAD. GET OFF YOUR LAZY ASS. GET A JOB AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR CHILDREN AND WOMEN. GET THEM OFF WELFARE. STOP CRYING OVER SOME DEAD HOODLUM THAT'S BEEN DEAD FOR 15 YEAR'S. HE WAS A BUM JUST LIKE YOU.

IF YOU LOVE HIM SO MUCH WHY DON'T YOU KILL YOURSELF SO YOU COULD BE WITH HIM.

HEY SAC_QUEEN. I SEE YOUR INCOME TAX CHECK CAME IN. YOU ARE SUCH A LOSER. I'LL KILL MYSELF IF I WAS YOU.
March 16, 2008 5:06 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Everybody that wants me to hack into "stateofgrace's" cpu and delete his account say I...
March 16, 2008 6:18 PM
 

dwill1 said:

I
March 16, 2008 6:38 PM
 

Da Realeast nigga Out said:

To Homie Who Put Pac "Against All Odds"  Lyrics Up This How Shit Get Twisted If U Knew This Story First Hand/It's Gun Shots To "Tut" Find Out Who Dat Is,Not Gun Shots To "Deck"Dats Why Shit Fucked Up N These Streets Now Second Hand Info Errbody Wanna Know Da Wrong Shit In Life!
March 16, 2008 7:05 PM
 

Da Realeast nigga Out said:

I Too 4 Da Stupid Ass Steroid Boy!~
March 16, 2008 7:06 PM
 

True Patriot Love » Blog Archive » [ Rap and Hip-Hop ] : More information on Tupac’s attempted murder at the Quad in Manhattan…. any thoughts? said:

March 16, 2008 7:21 PM
 

jaeda said:

@stateofgrace

Listen up white boy. You are white trash. White people have been baeting up on every race for years! Did you forget how yall stole the native americans land? Oh I bet you think this country belongs to you uh? Suck a dick white boy. Go to one of your rallys out in Utah where yall marry your own cousins and sisters. And for your own info there are more white people on wel-fare than anybody. Look at all the school shootings, tell me what do they have in common. Oh, white people did them, what a surprise! Who's running this country into the ground? Oh, a white president. Dam, I guess white people dont have it together like you think. You are lucky I will never see you, because I would spit in your face and dare you to do something about it.
March 16, 2008 7:56 PM
 

Diesel Locc said:

@stateofgrace

why tha fuk are u on this website  i seen nuff white ppl on wel fare . White race is the one who is messing up this world  
March 16, 2008 8:34 PM
 

FORTY MILLION said:

@stateofcracker go suck on you a fake tittie, you plaine fuck face bitch.quit worrying about the next man and get your shit together talking about people who gone.you probably got all tupac cds in your house ,you the one getting us rich bitch trying to be down.what the fuck you read wut everybody else saying if you aint just talking bull shit.
when you talking bout the dead you gotta be real fucked up, dat shit aint cute at all, are funny.god gone get you and you going to hell to burn but i aint going to judge you.im still going to pray for you and wish the best, you really need help its nobody else you should worry about, cause you really messed up..your wife look like she suck a mean dick to,tell her go black so she want go back you lil cock cracker. you look gay ass hell like a drag queen.im benching  350 thats on everything ,so we can fight for some geeze and put it on you tube ,put the money where ur big ass mouth is you cracker.you know how to find me its nothing.....

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March 16, 2008 8:58 PM
 

FORTY MILLION said:

@stateofcracker go suck on you a fake tittie, you plaine fuck face bitch.quit worrying about the next man and get your shit together talking about people who gone.you probably got all tupac cds in your house ,you the one getting us rich bitch trying to be down.what the fuck you read wut everybody else saying if you aint just talking bull shit.
when you talking bout the dead you gotta be real fucked up, dat shit aint cute at all, are funny.god gone get you and you going to hell to burn but i aint going to judge you.im still going to pray for you and wish the best, you really need help its nobody else you should worry about, cause you really messed up..your wife look like she suck a mean dick to,tell her go black so she want go back you lil cock cracker. you look gay ass hell like a drag queen.im benching  350 thats on everything ,so we can fight for some geeze and put it on you tube ,put the money where ur big ass mouth is you cracker.you know how to find me its nothing.....

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March 16, 2008 8:58 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

globalhustla sd: And to the person who mentioned the atlanta police incident it was two off duty cops and rumor has it it wasnt even pac who did it but dont act like pac was out there guns blazing shooting uniformed cops.........
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fk yr rumor dum fk.  pac ate the charge for shooting 2 atl cops.  then he beat the charge.

say he's an actor again clown.

why you markin for the feds?  

tupac is the child of the black panthers.  or you wanna say lee harvey oswald killed them too.
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wasteofspace get off hiphop dick.
March 16, 2008 9:42 PM
 

stateofgrace said:

HEY JAEDA IF YOU WANT ME TO TREAT YOU LIKE A MAN ACT LIKE ONE. YOU ACT LIKE A ANIMAL I'LL TREAT YOU LIKE A FUCKING MONKEY. LEARN TO RESPECT WOMEN. YOU STUPID ASS.

AND YOU JUBILEE.SHINE IF YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH A WHITE MAN TELLING A BLACK MAN TO RESPECT HIS OWN BLACK WOMAN. YOUR'E A ASSHOLE TOO.

ALL YOU JERK'S COULD GET AS MAD AS YOU WANT. LEARN TO RESPECT WOMEN. DIDN'T YOUR PARENT'S TEACH YOU THAT. DON'T YOU DUMBASS APE'S LOVE TUPAC. HOW DO YOU THINK TUPAC WOULD FEEL ABOUT YA'LL DISRESPECTING THAT WOMAN THE WAY YA'LL DO. SAC_KING AND JAEDA ARE FUCKING ASSHOLE'S. GET MAD AT THAT. DON'T GET MAD AT ME FOR POINTING IT OUT.

GET UPSET ABOUT THEM TWO BLACK ASSHOLE'S THAT KILLED THEM TWO COLLEGE GIRL'S. I KNOW YA'LL DON'T RESPECT AND LIKE TO KILL BLACK WOMAN. BUT IF YA'LL THINK WHITE MEN ARE GOING TO STAND BY AND LET YA'LL KILL WHITE WOMEN YOU GOT ANOTHER THING COMING. TWO BLACK ASSHOLE'S ARE ON HERE DISRESPECTING A WOMAN AND YOU ASSHOLE'S  GETTING MAD AT ME FOR TELLING THEM NOT TOO. THE BLACK MALE IS PATHETIC.
March 16, 2008 10:41 PM
 

stateofgrace said:

TUPAC IS DEAD HAHA. ELVIS LIVE'S HAHA. EM IS THE KING OF HIP HOP HAHA. TIGER WOOD'S WISH HE WAS WHITE HAHA SO DO MICHEAL JORDAN HAHA
March 16, 2008 10:44 PM
 

» ALLHIPHOP.com: L.A. Times to release new evidence in 1994 2Pac Shooting; Links to Jam Master Jay Murder | Highbrid Nation | Because Knowledge is Power said:

March 16, 2008 10:57 PM
 

SouthEastLA said:

@stateofcracker


HAHAHAHAHA YOUR A FUCKEN DUMB ASS RED NECK!!!!!!!!
jaeda SAID IT ALL!!!! YOU DON'T SEE US MEXICANS OR BLACKS FUCKING AROUND WITH OUR OWN SISTERS OR MOTHERS LIKE YOU SICK FUCKS!!! IF ANYONE IS A FUCKEN HOODLUM OR A THIEF ITS YOU FUCKEN WHITE OUT LOOKING MUTHAFUCKERS!!!!! YOU FORCED BLACK PEOPLE TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY TO DO WORK THAT YOU FUCKS DIDN'T WANNA DO!!!!! NOW WHO'S THE LAZY FUCKS I GUESS THATS WHY THERES MORE OF YOU FUCKS ON WELFARE!!! AS FOR THE MEXICANS & NATIVE AMERICANS YOU STOLE LAND THAT BELONGED TO US SO YOU BASTERDS ARE THE REAL THIEVES!!!!


SO HERE IS WHAT IMMA DO FOR YOU, IMMA BE HERE MOWING MY OWN LAWN DRINKING SOME A BEERS & TEQUILA LIKE A REAL MEXICAN DOES AND ENJOY TAKING MY LAND BACK FROM YOU DUMB FUCKS AND ENJOY WATCHING MY BROWN PEOPLE & THE BLACK PEOPLE FUCK YOU GUYS UP WITH INTEREST SO THAT WE CONTROL THESE STATES AND CALL IT "THE REAL UNITED STATES" AND PUT YOU BASTERDS THROUGH ALL THE SAME SHIT YOU PUT US THROUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND ENJOY IT!!!!

March 16, 2008 11:54 PM
 

SouthEastLA said:

AND NOW ABOUT PAC!!!!

IF YOU REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO HIS MUSIC BEFORE HE DISSED BAD BOY, HE NEVER DISSED ANY ONE EXCEPT FOR THE POLITIONS & CROOKED COPS.... SO WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN WOULD HE DISS BAD BOY, BECAUSE HE HAD A REASON TOO... HE WAS SET UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 16, 2008 11:58 PM
 

SouthEastLA said:

AND NOW ABOUT PAC!!!!

IF YOU REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO HIS MUSIC BEFORE HE DISSED BAD BOY, HE NEVER DISSED ANY ONE EXCEPT FOR THE POLITIONS & CROOKED COPS.... SO WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN WOULD HE DISS BAD BOY, BECAUSE HE HAD A REASON TOO... HE WAS SET UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 16, 2008 11:58 PM
 

dwill1 said:

@stateofgrace                                                                                                                                                         there is nothing i can say that will help me get in arm length of your PUNK ass so i will just laugh at your dumb ass. muthafuckas talk alot of shit in a safe place, fucking PUSSY.
March 17, 2008 12:24 AM
 

aj22 said:

@ EVERYONE
March 17, 2008 12:54 AM
 

aj22 said:

@ EVERYONE

Please do not give this piece of crap stateofgrace any attention people like that are so unhappy with themselves and they life they try to bring people into the bu!!$h!t.

I laugh at people like that too funny for real, he is garbage and unsatisfied with his life, boo whoo go get a tissue homie, get on meds if you not, suck that $h!t up.

Them be the ones driving trucks trying to run me over LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 17, 2008 1:03 AM
 

J-DUBB THA YOUNG HECTIC said:

about that white devil..

dude is on OUR website, that says it all! dont let these crackas get u mad cause they know what their fate is after earth, they are the DEVIL'S PRODUCT! that why they have sooo much HATE! dude is a nobody who probably live in a trailer home in south dakota. ALL WHITE BURN IN HELL!!!!  @southeastla i co-sign with ya fully, they got the nerve to call us lazy when we built this fuckin country BY FORCE. I HOPE ALL WHITE PEOPLE BURN IN HELL!!! AND IF ANYBODY GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME WISHING THAT THEM GAT AT ME,CLICK MY LINK AND LEAVE ME A MESSAGE!
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March 17, 2008 1:42 AM
 

MARCHITECT said:

WE LOVE YOU PAC!!! THE BEST THERE EVER CAN BE!!!
March 17, 2008 2:14 AM
 

Kappagem said:

Any and everybody who has read anything about all that happened with Pac, Puff, Big, etc, knows this info to be accurate.  Puff and Big knew Pac was gonna get jumped, Pac went for the strap, Pac SHOT HIMSELF, and they shot Pac.  In fact, the Police say when Pac went for his pistol his gun went off, and the cats robbin' him shot him out of fear.  If you listen to everything Pac said when he was alive, you already know Puff and Big KNEW who had Pac setup, and just didn't say anything about it.  Pac knew who was out to get him that night.  The crazy thing is NONE of these dudes was really gangstas.  In fact, Pac went WILD with Thug Life AFTER he got out of prison.  BIG never claimed to be a gangsta, and we all know Puff was on his "corporate hustle"....

Thing is this....if you KNOW someone is gonna jump yo potna, you don't just "shhhhhhhh" on that ish.  PAC never said Puff and Big set him up...but he did say they KNEW who set him up, and they didn't do anything to let him know.  Whether they did or didn't is in question....

But this much is true....Pac was taken out because he wasn't on his P's and Q's with these New York "gangstas" he was running around.

It's sad, but true...

As for Big....that's really on Puff's hands.  He knew cats was tryin' to get at BIG.  Big was really gettin' death threats and everything.  Big wanted the West to love him the way the East still loved Pac, even though Pac was beefin' with them.  Sadly, BIG didn't get that "universal" love until he was dead and gone.  

But NONE of these dudes were real street....they were rappers, tryin' to get "acclaim" AFTER the fact....tryin' to be gangstas AFTER they had blown up.  

It's not to knock either of them.  PAC is, and will always be, my favorite Rapper of All time...

But ultimately, this story didn't tell us anything we didn't already know....

Not at all....

RIP to Pac and BIG.

As for these dirty ass dudes names who keep coming up...it's not a coincidence...but karma is a BIATCH!
March 17, 2008 3:03 AM
 

poe said:

March 17, 2008 4:52 AM
 

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March 17, 2008 4:58 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

I always thougth they knew bout it, Puff wudovbeen merked had He tryied to stop anyfin, but He was suppose to B friends with Pac, I cudnt let Me friend get hit if I knew bout it

I herd that The Supreme Team where connected to it???

I always wondered Y did Stretch got merked exacly year after, if He was part ov it, Y they kill him??? Was He gonna own drop dime???
March 17, 2008 6:16 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

LAPD killed Pac eventually anyway, and We know LAPD work for MOB so that still makes sence.

Puff knew bout Biggie gettin merked to,

Wouldnt U ride up front with Ur boy after A show???

Puffys only lookin out for number one, the ways He sees things is, every man for himself, like, its Him or Me
March 17, 2008 6:20 AM
 

Rdot929 said:

yadda yadda ya
March 17, 2008 9:24 AM
 

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March 17, 2008 9:28 AM
 

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March 17, 2008 10:16 AM
 

EReal said:

Take That Take That Take That....
March 17, 2008 10:49 AM
 

Yadadamean said:

READ THIS SHIT MUFFUCKAS AND READ THE WORDZ OF THE MAN HIMSELF!

THE FOLLOWING IS A GENUINE INTERVIEW WITH TUPAC AFTER HIS SHOOTING IN NEW YORK NOVEMBER 30, 1994. The interview was first published in April 1995 and is the best account of events of the shooting, given by the man himself. He gives his views on who was behind the shooting and tells us exactly what happened and when and why. The interview was conducted by Vibe Magazine, and is therefore property of Vibe Magazine.

VIBE: Can you take us back to that night at Quad Recording Studios in Times Square?
TUPAC: The night of the shooting? Sure. Ron G. is a DJ out here in New York. He's, like, "Pac, I want you to come to my house and lay this rap down for my tapes." I said, "All right, I'll come for free." So I went to his house-me, Stretch, and a couple other homeboys. After I laid the song, I got a page from this guy Booker, telling me he wanted me to rap on Little Shawn's record. Now, this guy I was going to charge, because I could see that they was just using me, so I said, "All right, you give me seven G's and I'll do the song." He said, "I've got the money. Come." I stopped off to get some weed, and he paged me again. "Where you at? Why you ain't coming?" I'm, like, "I'm coming, man, hold on."

VIBE: Did you know this guy?
TUPAC: I met him through some rough characters I knew. He was trying to get legitimate and all that, so I thought I was doing him a favor. But when I called him back for directions, he was, like, "I don't have the money." I said, "If you don't have the money, I'm not coming." He hung up the phone, then called me back: "I'm going to call [Uptown Entertainment CEO] Andre Harrell and make sure you get the money, but I'm going to give you the money out of my pocket." So I said, "All right, I'm on my way." As we're walking up to the building, somebody screamed from up the top of the studio. It was Little Caesar, Biggie's [the Notorious B.I.G.] sideman. That's my homeboy. As soon as I saw him, all my concerns about the situation were relaxed.

VIBE: So you're saying that going into it...
TUPAC: I felt nervous because this guy knew somebody I had major beef with. I didn't want to tell the police, but I can tell the world. Nigel had introduced me to Booker. Everybody knew I was short on money. All my shows were getting canceled. All my money from my records was going to lawyers; all the movie money was going to my family. So I was doing this type of stuff, rapping for guys and getting paid.

VIBE: Who's this guy Nigel?
TUPAC: I was kicking it with him the whole time I was in New York doing Above the Rim. He came to me. He said, "I'm going to look after you. You don't need to get in no more trouble."
Doesn't Nigel also go by the name of Trevor?
Right. There's a real Trevor, but Nigel took on both aliases, you understand? So that's who I was kicking with-I got close to them. I used to dress in baggies and sneakers. They took me shopping; that's when I bought my Rolex and all my jewels. They made me mature. They introduced me to all these gangsters in Brooklyn. I met Nigel's family, went to his kid's birthday party-I trusted him, you know what I'm saying? I even tried to get Nigel in the movie, but he didn't want to be on film. That bothered me. I don't know any nigga that didn't want to be in the movies.

VIBE: Can we come back to the shooting? Who was with you that night?
TUPAC: I was with my homeboy Stretch, his man Fred, and my sister's boyfriend, Zayd. Not my bodyguard; I don't have a bodyguard. We get to the studio, and there's a dude outside in army fatigues with his hat low on his face. When we walked to the door, he didn't look up. I've never seen a black man not acknowledge me one way or the other, either with jealousy or respect. But this guy just looked to see who I was and turned his face down. It didn't click because I had just finished smoking chronic. I'm not thinking something will happen to me in the lobby. While we're waiting to get buzzed in, I saw a dude sitting at a table reading a newspaper. He didn't look up either.

VIBE: These are both black men?
TUPAC: Black men in their thirties. So first I'm, like, These dudes must be security for Biggie, because I could tell they were from Brooklyn from their army fatigues. But then I said, Wait a minute. Even Biggie's homeboys love me, why don't they look up? I pressed the elevator button, turned around, and that's when the dudes came out with the guns-two identical 9 mms. "Don't nobody move. Everybody on the floor. You know what time it is. Run your shit." I was, like, What should I do? I'm thinking Stretch is going to fight; he was towering over those niggas. From what I know about the criminal element, if niggas come to rob you, they always hit the big nigga first. But they didn't touch Stretch; they came straight to me. Everybody dropped to the floor like potatoes, but I just froze up. It wasn't like I was being brave or nothing; I just could not get on the floor. They started grabbing at me to see if I was strapped. They said, "Take off your jewels," and I wouldn't take them off. The light-skinned dude, the one that was standing outside, was on me. Stretch was on the floor, and the dude with the newspaper was holding the gun on him. He was telling the light-skin dude, "Shoot that motherfucker! fuck it!" Then I got scared, because the dude had the gun to my stomach. All I could think about was piss bags and shit bags. I drew my arm around him to move the gun to my side. He shot and the gun twisted and that's when I got hit the first time. I felt it in my leg; I didn't know I got shot in my balls. I dropped to the floor. Everything in my mind said, Pac, pretend you're dead. It didn't matter. They started kicking me, hitting me. I never said, "Don't shoot!" I was quiet as hell. They were snatching my shit off me while I was laying on the floor. I had my eyes closed, but I was shaking, because the situation had me shaking. And then I felt something on the back of my head, something real strong. I thought they stomped me or pistol-whipped me and they were stomping my head against the concrete. I saw white, just white. I didn't hear nothing, I didn't feel nothing, and I said, I'm unconscious. But I was conscious. And then I felt it again, and I could hear things now and I could see things and they were bringing me back to consciousness. Then they did it again, and I couldn't hear nothing. And I couldn't see nothing; it was just all white. And then they hit me again, and I could hear things and I could see things and I knew I was conscious again.

VIBE: Did you ever hear them say their names?
TUPAC: No. No. But they knew me, or else they would never check for my gun. It was like they were mad at me. I felt them kicking me and stomping me; they didn't hit nobody else. It was, like, "Ooh, motherf*cker, ooh, aah"-they were kicking hard. So I'm going unconscious, and I'm not feeling no blood on my head or nothing. The only thing I felt was my stomach hurting real bad. My sister's boyfriend turned me over and said, "Yo, are you all right?" I was, like, "Yes, I'm hit, I'm hit." And Fred is saying he's hit, but that was the bullet that went through my leg. So I stood up and I went to the door and-the sh*t that fucked me up-as soon as I got to the door, I saw a police car sitting there. I was, like, "Uh-oh, the police are coming, and I didn't even go upstairs yet." So we jumped in the elevator and went upstairs. I'm limping and everything, but I don't feel nothing. It's numb. When we got upstairs, I looked around, and it scared the sh*t out of me.

VIBE: Why?
TUPAC: Because Andre Harrell was there, Puffy [Bad Boy Entertainment CEO Sean "Puffy" Combs] was there, Biggie... there was about 40 niggas there. All of them had jewels on. More jewels than me. I saw Booker, and he had this look on his face like he was surprised to see me. Why? I had just beeped the buzzer and said I was coming upstairs. Little Shawn bust out crying. I went, Why is Little Shawn crying, and I got shot? He was crying uncontrollably, like, "Oh my God, Pac, you've got to sit down!" I was feeling weird, like, Why do they want to make me sit down?

VIBE: Because five bullets had passed through your body.
TUPAC: I didn't know I was shot in the head yet. I didn't feel nothing. I opened my pants, and I could see the gunpowder and the hole in my Karl Kani drawers. I didn't want to pull them down to see if my dick was still there. I just saw a hole and went, "Oh shit. Roll me some weed." I called my girlfriend and I was, like, "Yo, I just got shot. Call my mother and tell her." Nobody approached me. I noticed that nobody would look at me. Andre Harrell wouldn't look at me. I had been going to dinner with him the last few days. He had invited me to the set of New York Undercover, telling me he was going to get me a job. Puffy was standing back too. I knew Puffy. He knew how much stuff I had done for Biggie before he came out.

VIBE: People did see blood on you?
TUPAC: They started telling me, "Your head! Your head is bleeding." But I thought it was just a pistol-whip. Then the ambulance came, and the police. First cop I looked up to see was the cop that took the stand against me in the rape charge. He had a half smile on his face, and he could see them looking at my balls. He said, "What's up, Tupac? How's it hanging?"
When I got to Bellevue Hospital, the doctor was going, "Oh my God!" I was, like, "What? What?" And I was hearing him tell other doctors, "Look at this. This is gunpowder right here." He was talking about my head: "This is the entry wound. This is the exit wound." And when he did that, I could actually feel the holes. I said, "Oh my God. I could feel that." It was the spots that I was blacking out on. And that's when I said, "Oh shit. They shot me in my head." They said, "You don't know how lucky you are. You got shot five times." It was, like, weird. I did not want to believe it. I could only remember that first shot, then everything went blank.

VIBE: At any point did you think you were going to die?
TUPAC: No. I swear to God. Not to sound creepy or nothing-I felt God cared for me from the first time the niggas pulled the gun out. The only thing that hurt me was that Stretch and them all fell to the floor. The bullets didn't hurt. Nothing hurt until I was recovering. I couldn't walk, I couldn't get up, and my hand was f*cked up. I was looking on the news and it was lying about me.

VIBE: Tell me about some of the coverage that bothered you.
TUPAC: The No. 1 thing that bothered me was that dude that wrote that shit that said I pretended to do it. That I had set it up, it was an act. When I read that, I just started crying like a baby, like a bitch. I could not believe it. It just tore me apart. And then the news was trying to say I had a gun and I had weed on me. Instead of saying I was a victim, they were making it like I did it.

VIBE: What about all the jokes saying you had lost one of your testicles?
TUPAC: That didn't really bother me, because I was, like, shit, I'm going to get the last laugh. Because I've got bigger nuts than all these niggas. My doctors are, like, "You can have babies." They told me that the first night, after I got exploratory surgery: "Nothing's wrong. It went through the skin and out the skin." Same thing with my head. Through my skin and out the skin.

VIBE: Have you had a lot of pain since then?
TUPAC: Yes, I have headaches. I wake up screaming. I've been having nightmares, thinking they're still shooting me. All I see is niggas pulling guns, and I hear the dude saying, "Shoot that motherfucker!" Then I'll wake up sweaty as hell and I'll be, like, Damn, I have a headache. The psychiatrist at Bellevue said that's post-traumatic stress.

VIBE: Why did you leave Bellevue Hospital?
TUPAC: I left Bellevue the next night. They were helping me, but I felt like a science project. They kept coming in, looking at my dick and shit, and this was not a cool position to be in. I knew my life was in danger. The Fruit of Islam was there, but they didn't have guns. I knew what type of niggas I was dealing with. So I left Bellevue and went to Metropolitan. They gave me a phone and said, "You're safe here. Nobody knows you're here." But the phone would ring and someone would say, "You ain't dead yet?" I was, like, Damn! Those motherfuckers don't have no mercy. So I checked myself out, and my family took me to a safe spot, somebody who really cared about me in New York City.



Interview was taken with Vibe Magazine.
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