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The Lox Speak On Who's To Blame For The Fall Of NYC Hip Hop

(AllHipHop News) The state of New York Hip Hop has been endlessly debated over the last several years. The conversation came to the forefront this year after Kendrick Lamar’s “Control” verse and Trinidad James’ “the South runs New York” comments.

Veteran rap group The Lox came back on the music scene this month with their Trinity EP, and the Yonkers natives gave their opinion about where NYC rap is at the moment. Jadakiss, Styles P, and Sheek Louch shout out Fabolous, Troy Ave, Mack Wilds, and Joey Bada$$ as some of the New York talent holding it down for the city.

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“New York is feeling great right now,” Jadakiss tells Hot 97. “It’s beautiful. It’s a lot of things going right.”

The discussion eventually led to accusations that the radio station’s program director Ebro Darden is one of the main reasons New York Hip Hop fell off.

“Y’all do play all south music though,” Styles tells Ebro. “You the program director so you gotta take in on the chin.”

Styles points out that Hot 97 had not been supporting a lot of the young New Yorkers like Action Bronson, Troy Ave, and Joey Bada$$. He and Kiss also admit it is not just radio’s fault for the fall of New York Hip Hop. The artists, DJs, and clubs from the city take partial blame for losing the NYC sound.

[ALSO READ: Buckshot Addresses Hot 97′s Ebro Darden & The Current State Of NYC Radio]

Watch the interview below.

  • Charismatic eNegro Jef Vinson

    He’s right.

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  • $18592567

    LOX= East Coast UGK
    LOX= East Coast Gods

  • ursocalledgod

    im not from nyc but thats some real shit! thats how the DJs in the D are. these bitches play whatevers popular and make no effort to bring some shine on the talent in the D. as goes anywhere there is a lot of wack ass shit out of the D but its also some gems out here if your willing to look. big up to Styles the God is always keeping shit 100.

    • Big Crimes

      i went to school in Windsor and they had a radio show that played some good sh** that broadcast into Detroit. 99.1 CJAM Wednesdays midnight-2AM. they used to bring Detroit artists over and give them airtime. I’m not sure if this is still the case but you might want to check it out. (its a college station so the rest of the time they play a huge mix of other programming)

      • ursocalledgod

        Good looking out. Will do.

    • eddieknucks

      So much talent in the dirty glove as a whole. The DJ’s won’t play it and the dudes in the streets won’t even listen. I was in Cali when I first heard Black Milk on that Caltroit joint with Bishop Lamont.

      • ursocalledgod

        I’m telling you homie it just baffles me why these punk ass excuses for djs won’t show the local boys any love. Only one they do is Eminem. I like em but I don’t know any street catz or hip hop heads banging em shit out they ride. Real spill

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  • Nemesis_Enforcer

    only at Hot 97 in New York does the PROGRAM DIRECTOR talk on the radio like a personality. Yo don;t see this in other cities. You don’t even know what they look like.

    • It’s like when the ceo of the record company starts rapping. that’s when you know the company is on trouble.

    • PL

      I hear ya..Ebro wanna be Puff…

    • sesa

      I used to work in radio for five years, and it is extremely common for the PD to also be an on air talent. They just go under a different alias.

  • Pierre Elliott

    I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS–AND WHEN I SAID IT BACK IN 2003 NlGGAS WAS TELLIN ME I WAS BEHIND THE TIMES.

    NO I WASNT, I JUST SAW WHAT THE BLIND DIDNT SEE.

    JUST LIKE THE BROTHER SAID ABOUT THE D; ( they don’t play d artists)
    its the same ALL OVER—–NYC-LA. CHICAGO-DETROIT.

    ITS TIME TO MOBILIZE, BRING BACK THE HOT REAL MUSIC.

    THE FAKE SOUTH NOT THE REAL SOUTH—–HAS TO GO.

    WHERES UGK? GETO BOYS? OUTKAST-GOODIE MOB EVEN LUKE?

    ITS TIME TO WAKE UP!!!

    THIS IS A RESULT OF PAC DYING===B.I.G. DYING.

    AND IN THE D WHERE MY NlGGA DILLA FROM—-AND THEY DONT PLAY HIS RECORDS……

    ITS TIME FOR THIS TRASH HIPSTER SHlT TO GO….

    BEATBASEMENT DOT COM FOR THE REAL HIP HOP NOT FAKE STRIPPER CLUB MUSIC……******************* I CANT RATE IT ANY HIGHER…

    • eddieknucks

      Preach.

  • therealdjfade

    Nobody in the south listens to anything from New York except the old artists like jay-z or jadakiss and then it is rarely . all the artists you mentioned couldnt fill up a small bar in the south if they through a concert.

    • Pierre Elliott

      BOOOOOOOOOO HATER.

      YOU JUST KNOW THE CLOCK IS TICKING DOWN..

      KEEP TELLING YOURSELF YALL RULE EVERYTHING

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  • Kevin Anthony

    Always had a lot of respect for the Lox, grew up on these guys man I will always support them, and anybody who makes good music. Real music. As you should. Its politics, everything is groundwork for us artists now, thats why we need you the viewer’s support. If you like something and you think its hot or appeals to u PLEASE show support. Spread the word. Coming from the east coast..its a little harder for us now but Look, im on here promoting..what I feel to be one of the ILLEST mixtapes out right now called “food for thought” over on soundcloud. com Kevin Anthony-21

  • chippc

    No disrespect, but stop complaining that all you here on NY radio is southern artist. Y’all dominated our airwaves for decades. It makes no sense to keep regurgitating this same topic.

    For the longest time our local station K104 only played southern artist after damn near ten oclock.

    I swear I thought the Geto Boys and UGK was from Fort Worth cuz those were the only cats we heard that sounded like us on the radio during peak hours.

  • King Kredible

    People don’t understand, that’s how Atlanta took over. I was down there when it first jumped off. The DJs, radio stations, strip clubs, and local TV were ONLY messing with Atlanta artists. You didn’t even have to be from Atlanta, just had to rep Atlanta. I’ll give it to those dudes, they’re about that paper. Dudes can be shooting it out in the streets, but they’ll dead it long enough to record and get that paper together, then back to beefing. I’d never seen anything like that before I moved there. My hats off to those dudes.

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  • Mr.CPT

    Right now the WestCoast is running rap music.

    • E McArthur

      I agree, people just didn’t catch up yet. YG, Kendrick, Nipsey(who I slept on until I heard his joints with YG), Problem just to name a few>>>>

  • brotha_man

    DMX needs to get his act together

  • Doc Franchise

    ebro is corny…

  • RIV

    Stream & Downlaod a well put together music project, search “RIV Progression” on DatPiff & it’ll show up…

  • RIV

    This is coming from the LOX, so how valid is there point?

  • RichFromBX

    don’t you want to see some level of diversity – while maybe the temporary bragging rights are fun at the end of the day different regions should have their moment to shine…I can’t hate on the south, they’re what’s hot right now but like when NY had it and like when the west coast had it, their time will come to end.

    hip hop wins no matter what – the back and forth regional sh!t is just petty we should be sitting back and appreciating the different sounds and styles. Besides, NY don’t have to do sh!t – we gave birth to hip hop, we should just be proud to see our children growing up…

  • atlantahiphopshop

    Im from NY and live in ATL since 99 and one thing I can say is they show love to anyone who comes in their city and wants to make hip hop records, period. Everyone has a studio and likes to vibe. There are tons of east coast rappers and producers contributing to the whole southern movement. Now NY on the other hand is arrogant and judgmental of every damn thing. You cant use the “we was first” thing forever. Redesign your sound. Every NY rapper sounds like Wu or Premier. Action Bronson? He is Ghostface in white skin. SMH Change muhfu(ka!!!! Stop all that sampled BS and make a beat!

    • Ray from Harlem

      I couldn’t agree w/you more. Pride, Arrogance, and lack of Creativity is the downfall of New York rap.

  • the blame goes to the same people who made it hot again….Jay-z is the number 1 guy. he would always deliver quality music but made sure to put out that catchy club banger as a single…that help lead to a generation of rappers who make a whole album of nnothing but club music which is perfect for the south IMO

  • AlbertoRipRon

    When the south first started rising, it was cool. Jada was on a Lil John track. Jay Z gave Tip the pass. Fat Joe started working with southern producers and cats. Now they took over and the world gotta problem.

    Everything is in cycles.