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Charlamagne Tha God Debates Tomi Lahren On Beyonce, The Black Panthers & Jay Z (VIDEO)


(AllHipHop News) TheBlaze television personality Tomi Lahren caught significant backlash for her comments about Beyoncé’s homage to the Black Panther Party during her 2016 Superbowl performance. Lahren’s Final Thoughts segment included the 23-year-old conservative commentator blasting Bey’s husband Jay Z for being a former drug dealer and referring to the Black Panthers as a group that used violence to “overthrow white domination.”

[ALSO READ: Jay Z Responds To Tomi Lahren’s “Drug Dealer” Comments]

One of the critics of Lahren’s statements was Charlamagne Tha God. The Breakfast Club co-host gave Lahren “Donkey of the Day” for having a problem with Beyoncé’s message against police brutality. Lahren invited Charlamagne to her show to discuss Bey’s “Formation” video, the Black Panthers, and the Black Lives Matter movement.

“For [Beyoncé] to have a video where she specifically said ‘stop shooting us.’ I don’t see how anybody could have a problem with that,” said Charlamagne. “If you have a problem with Beyoncé saying ‘stop shooting us’ then that means you must agree with them shooting us.”

He added, “I think you’re very misinformed about the Black Panthers as well. They were founded by Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale. Huey P. Newton had a PhD from the University of California. Bobby Seale studied engineering and politics in college. [The Black Panthers] were created to resist police brutality and the killing of blacks. They used violence if necessary.”

Charlamagne also pointed out that the BPP was also responsible for instituting social programs such as free breakfast for children and they worked to implement a Ten-Point program for earning freedom for the black community. In addition, the conversation featured CTG acknowledging Jay Z as an example of an African American man that overcame poverty and criminality to be able to employ and inspire other African Americans to follow his lead into legal business.

[ALSO READ: PBS To Air Documentary About The Black Panthers On ‘Independent Lens’]

Watch “Tomi Lahren vs Charlamagne Tha God” below.

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  • Tall Shon or T.S

    CTG got her ass.. Good job my brother..

    • Dox

      She gotta let me smash since I’m black to prove she ain’t racist.

      • TheAfroRican

        I wouldn’t be surprised she would let a black dude smash. Heck, Glenn Rice dicked down Sarah Palin.

      • Dox

        Damn, I didn’t even know that!

      • Tall Shon or T.S

        Yup that happened fam.. lol

      • TheAfroRican

        Yeah, I think it happened when he was in college and she was a news reporter. Google it.

  • Leonard Tarver

    If the they consider the Panthers a terrorist organization then they’re last on the list to commit crimes. The US Government is a Terrorist organization…

  • disqus_wP9qaQP4Hv

    Why continue to even give this stupidity the time of the day…. Simply annoying to know that this young girl is suppose to represent her network or a corporation or wherever she works.. Is she a news anchor or just a troll cause her dumbness is just unbelievable and to know she represent America, the supposedly empire makes the rest of the world look at the nation like Really? it’s really upsetting to know that people like her does exist and i’m not trying to go the black or white way but that she’s utterly miss-informed… Oh well Its the USA that a white girl walks around claiming to be black and really believed it. I rest my case… something below to share 🙂

  • TheAfroRican

    I applaud CTG for his debate, but it was a waste of time. That misinformed, ignorant future Faux News correspondent was trying to create controversy.

    • Dox

      She def doing it for ratings, and it is working wonderfully. Smart on her part.

      • TheAfroRican

        Yeah, unfortunately…..

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        wrong 2 times – no it aint working , and talking dumb aint smart

      • To her audience and the anti-black lives matter folks she’s speaking the truth. Her ratings are sky rocketing off of this segment

      • Dox

        Precisely…without her trolling, she would not get any attention. Skip Bayless tactics

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        wrong – not telling the truth is not speaking to truth to Nobody – and her raitings are not rising , only for 2 days , now people see the dumbness , her raitings have fell

    • A.P. Millz-CT

      She’s only 23 years old… lol Why even debate with her..

      • TheAfroRican

        She looks older than 23 years old lol

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  • Xxplosive 1

    Why even give this hooker anymore shine

  • STEPH

    She was in denial the entire interview, she tap danced around topics like the late great Gregory Hines. After he explained the Black Panthers to her and told her what they were about, she still considered them a terrorist organization and said that’s why the federal government shut them down….The federal government was just as racist as it is now, and deemed them a threat because they were informing black men and women of the rights that they had as American citizens. They didn’t approve of drug dealing in black neighborhoods (as we know now the same drugs the federal government was pushing on the black community). I’m glad CTG set her straight, but it fell on deaf ears. 23 years old….I couldn’t imagine what that girl had to do to some old ass executive to get to the position she’s in smfh LOL!

    • ZUBU

      Well stated my brotha! This chick is 23… SMH She is just a stage prop… Jay-Z, Reasonable Doubt: “YOU BROKE WHAT THE FUKK YOU GONE TELL ME.” Essentially she is a kid WTF she gone tell me…

  • I don’t think Charlamagne will get invited back. He neutralized all of her talking points. Actually he made her look like a dumb blonde (lol)! Charlamagne represented on this one. It’s refreshing to see a brother use his intelligence for something other than coon sh*t (which he normally does). 😂😂

  • baller187

    im black and its true bey fucked up she should not have don that, superbowl shouldnt be about black white or purple wrong platform, this is an easy one. I dont even know who this white THOT is

    • Anytime someone says “I’m black” it usually means they’re not. You and your message are suspect….😂😂😂😂

      • baller187

        suspect my nuts, it was the wrong platform to do it, thats common sense fool

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        no it aint

    • they both only have surface knowledge. trash. i agree, he should have shut her down

      • Myleage

        he did. what are you talking about? he spit way more than surface knowledge

      • only someone with surface knowledge would say that. he didn’t. there are too many other ways he should have shut her ass up. he didn’t know enough, but it wasn’t bad attempt. He hell his own.

      • Myleage

        he shut her ass up brilliantly. there was no need to go any “deeper” into the black panthers. listen to the vid. there was absolutely no need to give a 1000 page rendition of the Black Panthers biography. he spoke about the founders, where they were from, the programs they help implemented, and their stances on political issues. that was much more than surface knowledge.

      • He didn’t need to get into the black panthers, but ok. I’m not disagreeing with you. I just know he could have said more with less words and more facts.

    • Myleage

      you’re wrong. it’s not that “the superbowl shouldnt be about black or white.” it is “it shouldnt matter if the superbowel is black or white.” as in if a performance celebrated irish pride, then americans, african, europeans, or asians, shouldnt care or take offense. even if a performance celebrated white pride in general in a way that doesnt deman nonwhites, then blacks and latinos and asians should not take offense either. if J-Lo did a latino performance, would whites say she is being racists? if so, thats stupid.

      my point is, blacks shouldnt care about a performance celebrating white pride w/o and demeaning nonwhites, and vice versa. Beyonce didnt denounce whites, she denounced racists whites and police officers who are brutal.

    • Knickfan4life

      That is the best time to do it you have everyone talking

  • ApricotNapalm

    when ngas go on these shows they need to polish up- Charlamagne shoulda shut her down…but he had that surface knowledge.

    • Myleage

      he did shut her down. what are u talking about? he did not have surface knowledge. did YOU know who started the black panthers and their accolades? how is that surface knowledge? he went in depth to how the panthers were founded and their message

      • ApricotNapalm

        u should read more than a wiki page

      • Myleage

        you need to re-listen to the vid. there was no need to get more in-depth than a wiki page. he debated her while going deep enough about the black panthers at a high level.

      • ApricotNapalm

        basic is never enough at war. but u got it bruh

      • Knickfan4life

        I understand what you mean but he did get into her enough boyce Watkins would have destroyed her and left remains.

      • ApricotNapalm

        word, he not the guy for that….Yee woulda ate her tho, she talk slick

    • bless us all

      ‘shut her down’-why is that to be the goal vs solve the issue…we need to come together as Americans or WE are going down.

      • ApricotNapalm

        we need to come together as a species- & its too late, we’re already headed for extinction

      • GNM

        She shouldn’t be encouraged to continue to perpetuate false information about the handful of civil rights leaders and role models in the Black community. With that kind of power i.e. an audience, she should have facts! She states Martin Luther King Jnr’s contribution to the Civil Rights Movement as the only acceptable way to make a difference! Is that how the American forefathers (who were White) gained independence from Great Britain? By praying about it? It’s hypocritical to constantly infer that Black liberation movements are the only violent ones. And she should know, better.

        Beyonce DID NOT salute anyone. It’s a stretch to even link her to the Black Panthers. EVEN, if by that stretch; (which Tomi seems vehement in holding to,) Beyonce DID in fact start mentioning Alice Walker or other famous Black Panthers, Tomi repeatedly neglected to LEARN that The Black Panthers were never formed to terrorise police despite certain individuals resorting to violence as a means of self-defence. This is important. And arguing to the contrary needs to be SHUT DOWN.

        Self-defence using firearms is not terrorism. Nelson Mandela’s ANC was labelled a terrorist organisation until 1994. Now, people like Tomi worship revolutionary leaders like him and MLK Jnr as though they were angelic, faultless deities. THEY WERE REVOLUTIONARIES! Things got heated at some point. And it took more than “talking about it”. Tomi should be wiser in her use of words, and if she doesn’t want to be, she does need to be SHUT DOWN. Or at least, shut her up!

        Back to what Beyonce actually DID do: she protested police brutality. At a football match. Onstage with a Latina, an Englishman and a bunch of dancers, including Asian-Americans, Native Americans and all other manner of combinations of interracial citizens. Can we stop this ridiculous nonsense of acting as though Beyonce had the intent – or even has the power – to “solve the issue”. If you want the “issue solved”, take to the streets or call your local senator or congressman/woman. But before that, let’s agree on what the real issue is. Let’s have informed, intelligent, constructive commentators define it for us. Otherwise, SHUT DOWN these crazies who misinform the public!

      • bless us all

        thank you for your respectful feedback–this is the type of problem solving that is needed…would it not be more prudent to correct Tomi’s misinformation and understanding than to shut it down….i do appreciate you presenting this perspective/insight….

        but i do think to keep BLM’s integrity and purpose honorable-the actions of these BLM participants need to be shut down…

        ***this is were i tried to paste a report from ‘the blaze’ on teens id’ing themselves with BLM that harmed/beat a vet but it keeps getting sensored***

        had the Black Panthers ‘shut down’ internal chaos–done so early within their organization the image left of its group may not have been of violence–as you stated the Black Panthers were not originally formed to be violent but the end result is what was is remembered….regretably -not with its origination as doing good and providing positive productive efforts.

        let me ask of your thoughts on Ben Carson..Star Parker…Mia Love…Tim Scott…Elbert Guillory…Herman Cain….Charles Paine…Juan Williams…comment on one or two at least would be appreciated…some are of congressional position that you suggested calling to start the problem solving..the others i view as additional great achievers .

      • bless us all

        also what are your thoughts on CL Bryant and his movie RUNAWAY SLAVE
        also THE LIBERAL PLANTATION…
        pls google it-i’d put the websites up but this site wipes it off..

        also google BLM teens beat up vet…that reports keeps getting censored also…

        Great respect for ALLEN WEST…sorry i didn’t think of him with my first reply…he is one congressman you can call for problem solving..
        absolutely would like to see this man run for President…

      • bless us all

        just read #blackpantherpbs tweeting out hate for the nra..scalia..reagan…

        whaaattt? need to shut that down right?

  • hoeyuno

    “If you go to a aids rally are you going to stand up and say what about cancer!?”
    That was dope! Unfortunately this dumb biiitch was too busy hearing herself talk to learn anything. Innocent people getting shot by the police and other people selling drugs do not belong in the same category and conversation no matter how you twist it.

  • trilltalk1

    No one can understand what it is to be black, unless they are black. You can sympathize and genuinely feel thoughts of concern and guilt to a degree. But they will never know how it felt and still feels when we discuss this with them. The way he broke it down the simplest of minds can grasp a hold of it. But because she has never experienced or does not know anyone that has experienced, police brutality or racial profiling she cannot fully understand. They only believe what is safe to believe.

    White people love to reference Dr. Martin Luther King because of there favorite safe Negro speech, I Have A Dream. But the speech the day before he died, is the speech that should be remembered. That is the speech that he came to a realization. It is a speech that breaks the I Have A Dream fantasy. His ideas at that time, had they been put into action. It would have changed the land scape of this country. It would have created real power, not just the power of entertaining people and spending money, because that is power. But POWER that would have changed all of our lives.

    • W.E.B. Du Bois

      explain how the Dream Speech is a fantasy

      • trilltalk1

        Simply put, know matter how much we want the country to be as one. We will always have a division because, we were slaves and in there eyes we will never be equal. So for him to dream that would be is a fantasy. That is just my opinion on that.

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        Simply put , you wrong – we Never wanted the country to be as one ,just all the same support and doors opend – and we are not slaves in their eyes because we were never slaves and they were never owners , those people died over 100 years ago – and not being equal ?, no we’re better , in every arena be it sports , racism , politics, etc , the Best always get the most thrown against it because everyone is fearful of losing because here is the Best – and being as one with them was Not MLK’s fantasy , it was having same governmental support doors opened – so your opinion is wrong

      • trilltalk1

        Like i said it is my opinion, let me guess your opinion is right. We could go back and fourth and all that. But my opinion is my opinion young man. I will say this, if you believe that most white people don’t feel superior to us then you are not living in reality. Before his speech on 4-3-1968, Dr. King was looked at as a dreamer, after that speech he was a threat. Google the speech i am referencing and you will have a better understanding of what i am saying. Far as the slave trade it did end long ago, but the dominance and control they achieved during that period is still alive today.

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        1 – yo dumbaass already said its yo opionion , that’s when I showed yo opinion wrong , 2 – you did no back and forth because you have not started yet with a forth , 3 – no white feel they are superior , they only think the focus is off them, 4 – MLK was not “looked at” in any way cept what he is , and can only be “looked at” as what eyes see fool , 5 – my knowledge come from living Life , and I google nothing your proven dumbass google , 6 – the dominace of the slave trade is long gone dummy , ended by the years since 1590 My people fought and died so I don’t live in it

      • trilltalk1

        smh you go ahead and believe that if you want. are you even a black man, i doubt it you on here trolling. also you didn’t prove me wrong, you proved that SAMBO is alive and kicking. 4-3-1968 is the speech to remember. all this name calling and bullcrap you can have that. what i typed was real and most Black Men either agree or understand.

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        all that you just typed meant what ? … Nothing , just empty words proving again your stupid , by thinking saying Nothing will pass as saying something

      • Mocha23

        Very well spoken.

      • Mocha23

        Your opinion is NOT wrong you are correct.

    • wes mc

      What if I eat a load of fried chicken will I understand then?

      • trilltalk1

        To you that may be funny, but that is the exact reason that there is a division in this country.

  • VENDETTA

    everybody is feeding into this shit, when she only said what she said to become more famous. before this, i never heard of this white girl, but now her audience will grow ten fold. they do it at fox news all the time. these people are educated and know they are not making sense,…. but who cares when the money comes rolling in..by responding to foolishness we are actually helping there agenda

    • THE.

      Exactly, its a win win for this white broad, she surpassed her own goal, now we all know who she is!

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        wrong – nobody cept you does , once she showed she talks typical white dumb – she’s forgotten

    • Mocha23

      Yep. They should have ignored the bytch!

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  • disqus_Wz58Qq14ii

    Damn, he destroyed her!

    • bless us all

      gosh i viewed it a good 2 way conversation on the issue…neither were destroyed

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        the white girl achieved the white’s agenda of making viewers of the news look at others , and not white’s millions of child porn vids they show you they get away with by disableing , like the government and media does , your firewallls

      • GNM

        Looooooooooooolest!

      • wes mc

        Mutha fucca you still here talking abouts kiddie porn you gets to chill and get,counselling for your urges to keep watching that

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        your weezil race ass cant deflect with your stupidity here , like the rest of America does , from the fact that its YOU in these vids , filming , posting , and sharing them

      • wes mc

        It’s apparent to me that you’re white, a submissive white male a cuck if you will who is obsessed with the black form.

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        cant think of nothing with your worthless race ass

    • Getatme

      no he did not

  • little mix

    She is misinformed

  • Markus

    She’s trying to make a name for herself and her show and didn’t bother to research what she took offense to. If you go at Malcolm X or the Black Panthers or Assata Shakur without fully knowing the totality of their exploits ,then she basically failed in her job as a media host who should be just as if not more informed than her guests on the issues they discuss. Respect to Charlemagne. Held it down.

  • Getatme

    And now we’re all up in arms over this little girl who no one knew about 3 days ago. This is why they make erroneous commentary like so. Bcuz we feed the trolls. Dont feed the trolls.

  • Q.

    This shallow debate is proof that the generation as a WHOLE has been dumbed down…both Black and white. CTG damn-near sounded like a scholar compared to the girl.

    • Getatme

      right lol. This aint even close to a real debate. This is more like an arrogant student on an inadvertent fact finding mission and Charlemagne is teaching her under the guise of defense.

  • J.C.

    well done Char

  • Its crazy how people dont understand the difference between anti-police and anti-police brutality. Some real dumb ass people out there.

    • viz

      She knows. It’s just bigger ratings to paint B as a cop attacking monger of hate.

  • ThatOneIsCarmen!

    Damn. He handled her. White people seem to think that they get to approved of our leaders.

  • NBK

    Charlemagne did a great job of countering her arguments and informing her. Way to stand up for Beyonce and her message.

  • Mocha23

    Tomi is misinformed about the issues. Tomi doesn’t care about black people at all!

  • Anthony Mason

    1. Beyonce did not pick the theme of the show or the general wardrobe. She was chosen to perform and the powers that be planned this all… She is a willing vessel….not a mastermind or political activist. Beyonce cashes checks and smiles for cameras and goes home to cry….

    2. This b**** is a prime example of a millennial who does not know history… yet the media is making her the face that group because they don’t know any better. She is a blonde uppity white chick who would cry if she got a piece of spinach stuck in her perfectly white teeth…

    3.CTG was telling truth and kicking some facts (for once). I am clearly not a fan of his but he presented the “nature of the threat “(Shout out Rass Kass). Yeah….anyone who has not heard that song….listen to it RIGHT NOW…

    4. This is media manipulation. This showdown is staged for attention and distraction. A little thing called false opposition….

  • Drake’s 3rd best Ghostwriter

    These crackers are crazy out there mind for real. Just because Jay Z sold crack for 14 years, shot his own brother and stabbed someone doesn’t make him a bad person. Lame AF white folk I swear to God

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