Pushing sixteens or pushing whips– Karen Civil, recently spoke with Tax Stone — and provided insight into the often tumultuous relationship between Jay Z and Cam’Ron. With her introspective anecdote, she reflected on an incident that transpired between Killa Cam and Hov. Although, no apparent road rage ensued, this incident stemmed from a parking spot.

The place was Def Jam,  the time was many many moons ago.  “Jay Z was pulling up in his Maybach, right? You know how Def Jam was on the side of the Universal building at the time? So Cam was in this turtle top like parked right there and he was talking to Duke, we were near the car,” reminisced the music insider.”

Then the Harlem rapper demonstrated his disregard for his boss. “And then this Maybach wants to pull up and they honk. I’m like ‘Oh I think that’s Hov’ so I back up. Cam’s like ‘Chill out.’ So then the car beeps again. And Cam ain’t move. So then Jay had to get out the car and he walked over cause he wanted to see who was in the car, like who wouldn’t move out the way. So then he came over, he looked…,” she revealed.

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“Dipset was out of the building the next week. And so we set up shop in Juelz’s studio for a little bit…I’ll never forget this,” she matter-of-factly stated. Employing his power, Jay Z then allegedly used his people to handle the lightweight issue. “He dapped everyone, he nodded, he made a mental note,” was Jay’z reaction to the situation.

Later, Hov  then exerted his will. “Then they said, I think it was HR or whatever, is like, ‘Hey guys I’m gonna need you to wrap this up cause technically you guys aren’t here.’ It was such a crazy experience, but Cam is Cam, he don’t care. He’s still the same now on his Instagram. You gotta love him for who he is. He doesn’t switch up,” said Karen Civl.

Check out the full interview: