Hip-Hop Rumors: Did The Man Use Hip-Hop To Increase Prison Populations?

(Rumors) This letter was sent to and I found it amazing. Read on. The writer charges that a group of music industry heavies gathered over two decades ago to use rap to increase the prison population.


After more than 20 years, I’ve finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society. I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I’ve simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren’t ready for.

Between the late 80′s and early 90’s, I was what you may call a “decision maker” with one of the more established company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80’s and quickly established myself in the business. The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren’t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music’s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practices I’ve ever seen.

The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn’t seem to be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. 

Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn’t find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the “unfamiliar” group collected the agreements from us.

Quickly after the meeting began, one of my industry colleagues (who shall remain nameless like everyone else) thanked us for attending. He then gave the floor to a man who only introduced himself by first name and gave no further details about his personal background. I think he was the owner of the residence but it was never confirmed. He briefly praised all of us for the success we had achieved in our industry and congratulated us for being selected as part of this small group of “decision makers”. At this point I begin to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering. The subject quickly changed as the speaker went on to tell us that the respective companies we represented had invested in a very profitable industry which could become even more rewarding with our active involvement. He explained that the companies we work for had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons and that our positions of influence in the music industry would actually impact the profitability of these investments…


  • $25506309

    Um ok? I didnt get anything from this long boring ass homo letter, alot of irrelvant crap and a waste of time

    • did you actually read the whole thing that continues over on illseed’s website

    • StackzScrilla

      To make a long story short…. WE BEEN KNOWING ABOUT THIS! Read between the lines my brothas and sistas. For those of us that are not completely brain washed or have a programmed mind lets keep it real! This reminds me of the conspiracy theories of the Crack Epidemic. Someone or something comes out 15-20 years later on some “Air out the dirty Laundry” sentiment. For those of us who think a little deeper and understand the world machine i am sure there is SOME truth to this. But to believe everything is crazy. If you don’t stand for something, you will fall for anything.

  • immackulate

    i couldnt make it thru his weak azz disclaimer or 1st paragraph w/o commenting 1st …

    1. you a punk for not mentioning names
    2. you been sitting on this information for 20+ and decide now’s the time
    3. you solely responsible for 90% of the b.s. we endure as fans when we turn on the radio
    4. phuck you in yo phace punk!

    • Proof or not, this is more than believable. Everything he said about the prison industrial complex is true, but he only mentioned the tip of the iceberg. This thing runs deep and not just in the prison system. Watch “The Future of Food” or “Food, Inc.” (streaming on Netflix) and you’ll see them same kind of behind-the-veil activities, designed solely to benefit the wealthy 1%, big business. This country is NOT run by the people or for the people. It’s run by corporations for the benefit of their shareholders. This is not a conspiracy theory. The facts are there. The food we eat is routinely tainted and the FDA, which is supposed to protect us is headed by the same people who were in executive positions at the companies producing the tainted food. It’s no different than what this person alleges happened in music. Listen to the rap from the late 80’s and listen to what passes for hip hop now. There is a distinct change. I came of age listening to hip hop and it was a very different thing than it is now. I won’t let my kid listen to most of the stuff that’s out now. He listens to some of the real old school stuff and the music that gave rise to A Tribe, Public Enemy, KRSOne, Poor Righteous Teachers…conscious lyrics, rather than the misogynistic and morally bankrupt lyrics out today. Not to sound like a grandpa or anything, but the decline in basic morality and civility across society is also part of the problem. Does the music drive the behavior? Maybe not, but it definitely validates it. There’s been a wearing away of basic courtesy and ethics, which encourages, or at the very least does nothing to discourage the kind of behavior that lands you in prison. Making more money for the corporations. Think about the money to be made in producing food for the prison system, clothing and supplies for the inmates, jobs for the guards and other staff. Millions upon millions and it’s all privatized…for profit business. Companies operate in order to make money, in this case, the commodity is prisoners, who by the way, are not only worth money from the government, but in turn, generate revenue because the prisons have agreements with other industries such that the prisoners provide cheap labor. Inmates work either within the infrastructure of the prison (kitchen, laundry, etc., saving money of salary and benefits that would be paid to civilian workers) or they work real jobs, assembling various things, etc. and they’re paid, in some cases, less than a dollar a day, but the pieces they produce sell at many times the cost of parts and labor and generate a profit for both the prison and the company for which the items are being produced. Does this remind you of anything? . . . .That’s right, slavery. Very good. Now, go read something edifying and turn the radio off.

      • Casor_Greener

        MAn please stop with that secret plot mumbo jumbo, buy yourself a burger, and relax….

      • immackulate

        GUTTER still aint buying into no conspiracy theories lol

      • EL_BARK

        Man who this???????

        Identify ya self, if you dont mind?????

      • immackulate

        caught you niggahs off guard huh … NDTX they completely locked out that acct where i couldnt get my POST UP on

      • EL_BARK


        I thought i recongnize, the type style, lower case,
        But all caps on specific words.

        They need to fix this chessey mobile site, i getting tired of switching to desktop mode on every page.

      • immackulate

        #trav – i dont doubt its some sort of truth to the ANONYMOUS letter
        you mentioned the MONEY to be made … did you know BOB BARKER (price is right) is AMERICA’S LEADING DETENTION SUPPLIER (food, clothes, toothpaste, toothbrushes, them flexi pens, etc)

        my only issue (and i jumped over to illseed dot com to read the rest of the article) is why wait 20 yrs after the damage is/has been done then send out a blind item w/ no names or factual information to go off <<<< PUNK SHYT AT ITS FINEST! 

      • well, break that shit down then. forever it’ll b broken.

  • immackulate

    read that whole article … opinion still didnt change from the latter … private owned prisons?!?!?!?

    • they are a real thing.  seriously look into them.

      • immackulate

        trust … i know its all to real AND the corralation between the elite running these record labels and how they PRIVATELY invest in these private owned prisons DOESNT SEEM FAR FETCHED TO ME AT ALL … but the whistles already been blown on the SCENARIOS given … i’d like to know WHO WAS INVLOVLED if it really happened

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  • water_ur_seeds

    Crazy letter, not sure what to believe tbh, why get so many people involved??? someone could of easily given anonymous tip off to a media outlet and exposed the meeting… seems so far fetched, but im not overly surprised


    I think this letter was written under a false pre text or guise.
    If thats a word . In other words the person who wrote the letter,
    Wrote its based on hypothetically speaking.or a plausible scenairo,
    That meeting like this were taking place at the time.
    Also why not gives names & companies involved????

    This letter is to provoke thought, as to say this could or did happen in the early 90′.
    Stop reading the rest…..

    Illcoon could had posted the whole letter.

    Also he not telling nothing new that people aint been saying for years.

    Where bp1 @ he been talking bout this ish for a while.
    Just saying. Music is just one avenue the jew mafia used to usher in their agenda.
    But its deeper then music.

    They used music to brain wash us into hating each other………
    Thats the real problem, And thats why we deep in the prison systems.

    Who do fear more
    A. White person walking down the street at night by yourself.
    Or a niggah in a hoodie walking down the street.

    • Brian Andrew Smith

      the whole letter is posted on his website.  but you are probably right, i was thinking the same thing when i read this about how its probably someone creating a fake scenario, that  may have actually happened but not exactly like this.

    • Casor_Greener

      Yeah this is some fake bull$#IT.  If it was real, the person would be giving out names. also if it was real and they decided not to give names, they would ahve spoken up sooner.

      Regardless, I have never been one to put so much onus on rap music.  Yeah they promote criminal rap, but it’s still on the idiots who go out and try to live out these rhymes.  not to mention piss poor parenting.

      • EL_BARK


        True, and you know me well enough to know, that i
        Buy into some conspiracies theories, but i dont eat everything feed to me. If a cats was going to put somebody on blast, they scream names, if the matter is really an issue with them.
        Shet i learned more stuff from foia (freedom of info act) then i did in 12 years in private school.
        And one thing i noticed about some white people. If they anti-gov
        Or against the system, they go HAM, when exposing the truth.
        For dude to wait 20 years, then still leave out names, screams bullshet.
        Plus many rappers, activists, OG’s & rap pioneers,
        Been speaking on this same issue. How the industry counter,
        The black pride rap music, and usher in the gangsta rap music,
        In the early 90’s, as a counter attack. Think early 90’s when gangsta rap took over,
        And look at it now. But in my opinion, its goes back to the 60’s
        70’s when the gov dump drugs in the hood. To counter the civil
        Rights, & black militant movements. That where the problem started,
        Crack in the 80’s was the finish him move. Cause now you had adults strungs out.
        Lil niggah like me & your age, selling the shet, or seeing the consequences of it.
        Cause pops in jail or moms, is high. (not me & yours)
        But in general. Then after that, you got the generation later,
        90’s babies, and late 90’s babies. Who aint got a dad or was raise by the grandmom,
        And all they got left, is these lityle niggahs listen to ross & jay, & pac,
        And believe the shet, these rappers talk is true or reality.
        I agree its starts with parenting first, but how many cats in the hood,
        Aint got parents around cause they dead or in jail,
        Or not around now, because crack hit so hard, 25 years ago.
        Yo go to world star, & read some of the comments on there.
        Yo i think that site got all 15-20 years old on there.
        Cause not only are they gullable, a majority of the people on there is zombies.
        I actually spit out my yak a couole of times, reading the comments on meek
        Videos. Yo real talk lol, dont underestimate how these youngins look up to rappers,
        Because some of them, thats all
        They got to look up to…….. If you let wshh tell it meek is a stone cold killer, lmao
        Yo one lil niggah even swore on his life that meek, was a killer,
        All off of i’m a boss track, & raps.
        Niggas curse me out, like you dikhead meek aint fighting he a got damn shooter.
        But now days, that the shet that sells. The labels know it.
        Ross know it, back in the day cats rap abiut the streets,
        But the style was differernt. Now the game is all about having a gimmick.
        But these lil niggas do eat the shet up like reality. But thats because they aint got shet else to look up too.

  • BestDeathEver

    While I know privately owned prisons are real, I don’t buy this nonsense.  If it’s true that ” Rap acts that talked about politics or harmless
    fun were quickly fading away as gangster rap started dominating the airwaves,” how do you explain A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, etc? 

    • Carlito_Sosa

      how often do you hear artists like mos def, talib kweli, pharoah monche, jean gray, immortal technique, jay electronica, etc.. on the radio? its almost a fact that any rapper that spits something intelligent will get zero air play… you have to spit dumb, ignorant, ish to get spins… its been like this for a long time too…. some people laugh at conspiracy theories, but think about it… why is it that only dumbed-down music gets on the radio.. even Jay-Z said: ” I dumbed down from a audience to double my dollasThey criticize me for it yet they still  yell hollaif skillz sold truth be toldI probably be lyrically Talib KweliTruthfully I wanted to rhyme like common sense(but I did 5 mil) I ain’t been rhymin’ like common since”

  • The letter isnt that shocking…Whats shocking is reading the comments and seeing just how little people know about the world around them.  Privately owned prisons have been around for a long time. 

  • s0rethumb

    It’s plausible. Reagan, Ollie North and Freeway Rick Ross helped just as much. Perhaps these suits and sellouts saw that the brainwashing would be easier if the hardcore became pop culture. A rapper reminiscent of a James Brown singing I’m black and I’m proud was not what music execs wanted to perpetuate hence why X-Clan and Paris no longer were on Mtv or BET…Those who control the message control the minds…Not so much anymore if you are stuck on stupid you want to be there.

  • Negro Peligro

    We are deep in the prison system because Private Prisons make the laws in a place called ALEC. The same reason the US is locking up more illegal immigrants and housing them in Private Prisons.  

  • jamaicanbornanbreed

    not surprised….granted the tone of the letter has a false intent to it….but i do believe the powerful coperations has a sway or control on certain aspects of everyday life…..however this letter has all the attributes of a fake…could be wrong………… cuz i dnt put nothing by these crackers

    • immackulate

      why would you even look to negate the letter by calling it a FAKE when it clearly states what THE NATURE OF THE THREAT IS and its not a diss twoards US as a community – ITS ACTUALLY AN EYE OPENER FOR THE BLIND AND CLOSED MINDED – but niggahs so got damn stuck on stupid WE dont recognize game til it knock our mf heads off

      • jamaicanbornanbreed


  • Great, another conspiracy letter bullsh*t. i didn’t believe a single word n the letter. if what is stated in the letter was real, then why wait 20+ yrs 2 finally put it out. Makez no sense.

    • immackulate

      open yo mind myG

  • rep87

    Many of us witness this who came thru that era when they started blowing up gangstr rap and they havent let up and now they pushing all the other garbage as well .The Hon. Minister Louis Farrakhan spoke on this during the 90’s Professor Griff and Chuck D have spoke about how radio is control and only artist who spew ignorance and mindless garbage is getting airplay and thats fact ! I hate this brother who was to afraid to tell his brothers and sisters what was going on can now look at the damage that has been done pants hanging off their azz acting like going to jail is a badge of honor We can only pray to God to help bring our youth out of the sick state of mind they are in ,It will be those who want believe this because they are so blind to the tricks these devils have pull by using our young black youth to spread their message The fear these devils have is for the mass of people to wake up to his tricks and wicked ways

    • Carlito_Sosa

      this is the most intellectual post i have ever read on this website

  • Black people lack this thing called accountability.  I have been fully aware for years that 99.9% of these rappers don’t live the life they portray.  It’s not the music that has increased the prison population, it’s the black man’s desire to obtain the fake lifestyle they see on rap videos and hear in songs.  The sad thing about it, the predominantly black television channels who keep replaying these videos and songs are the main perpetrators.  Thanx BET!

    • immackulate

      take accountability for fallen into the same traps … but you have to also be aware of who is setting the traps

  • This article sounds truth-based, unfortunately. I believe Alicia Keyes spoke about how gangsta rap was a ploy to get Black folks to kill ea other & they shut her down.

    In other news, check out my Paradoxal Diss twd Nicki Minaj on Soundcloud “Did It On Em”

    look up Keyanna Bean on soundcloud & listen/download!!

  • This is all over the web. Research Tavistock institute.

  • Texasbosshawg

    BET is owned by white people not a black person any more. he sold it some years back. 

  • ok so everybody ‘gets it’…now what are you going to actually DO about it?

  • a clear attemp by illseed to get more views on his website lol..

  • This could certainly be true. But I see one potential problem with it: The author claims that hip-hop was used to increase private prison populations. Not public, but specifically private, which makes sense b/c private prisons, unlike public ones, are in the business of making a profit. The issue is that less than 10% of US prisons are “private.” And that’s now, in 2012. Back in 1991, that % was much, much smaller. So while it is possible that the “story” is true, the argument that it was used to make $ for private prisons doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

    • Big Ice Bastardman ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Yeah the math doesn’t check out. An increased population of public prisons would cause a net loss for the government (it costs a lot to keep someone in prison.)  You could make the argument that the only reason private prisons exist is due to how expensive it is, and overcrowding of federal prisons, but this seems sketchy if we’re talking ’91.

  • immackulate

    immackulate 1 comment collapsed Collapse Expand why would you even look to negate the letter by calling it a FAKE when it clearly states what THE NATURE OF THE THREAT IS and its not a diss twoards US as a community – ITS ACTUALLY AN EYE OPENER FOR THE BLIND AND CLOSED MINDED – but niggahs so got damn stuck on stupid WE dont recognize game til it knock our mf heads off

  • Big Ice Bastardman ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    It’s kind of funny, cause gangsta rap isn’t making the money it used to. People loved it cause it was new and honest, which is why white people liked it. Gangsta rap wouldn’t have done those numbers or had that much exposure if white people weren’t buying it. If it was such a conspiracy, why isn’t it being pushed as much anymore? Look at the most popular artists that the labels are pushing now. Black Eyed Peas. Rihanna. Kanye West. All these guys talk about is fashion, parties, and sex. Te closest you get to anything violent is Odd Future, but that’s basically high-school horrorcore. The actual gangsta rappers like 50 Cent and DMX haven’t sold anything in a long time cause nobody wants to hear it anymore. 

    • Only problem with that is, the average fairweather mainstream fan dunno WHAT the fukk they wanna hear, they take whatever Viacom and Clear Channel feed em and just ride with it with not a single question asked.  If the gangsta shit was still what was bein pushed on BET, MTV and radio, that’s what everyone would still be jammin.  It’s a different agenda now though, now it’s all about the pussification of the American male and especially the Black male.  And before niggas get to tossin the “conspiracy theory” flag on the play, just stop and take a look around you…..shit just in my area alone it’s an epidemic of these lil young niggas comin out the closet, niggas that used to pull ALL the hoes once upon a time…..a broad told me just a couple weeks ago she found out her nigga served another man up.  The shit started when Lil Wendy started rockin the skinnies and jeggings kissin Birdman (I REFUSE to call another grown ass man Baby) in the mouth, but the second Lil B’s bitchass came out with that bullshit album title it was a mufukkin WRAP for manhood as these youngins knew it.

      Trust me, in a business as large and powerful as the music industry, NOTHIN happens by accident.  It don’t just go for music but pretty much any aspect of business, politics, etc.  Them mufukkas thinkin 10 steps ahead at all times and when they ain’t, they got someone doin it for em.  Trust and believe.

      • Big Ice Bastardman ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        I dunno about that and I’ll tell you why. It canm’t be that easy to turn people gay. It doesn’t make sense. That would mean that all black men are incredibly stupid and naieve. All it takes to turn an ENTIRE generation of black youth gay is an album title and a cellphone pic? That’s pretty insulting to the intelligence level of these kids, as well as REALLY insulting to the artistic integrity of someone like Lil B.

      • I can dig your point but never underestimate the power of subliminial messages my guy, just remember how easily they had people actin like they were gangsta during the NWA/Death Row days…think about how effortlessly they got people to start shuckin and jivin now, thinkin gettin money automatically cancels out everything else.  I ain’t sayin the pic and album title’s all it took, of course it’s gonna be deeper than that…..Nicki Minaj openly pushin the lesbian act, Aubrey tellin niggas bein soft is where it’s at, etc. etc.  What I’m sayin is, when these young cats see the rappers they idolize engagin in bullshit like that, in their mind it’s sayin that type of shit’s ok…..just like the kids of my generation thought it was ok to emulate what they saw Snoop and Pac and all them doin and sayin, which was just as destructive.

        Dig this…’s no secret a huge percentage of Black males had to come up with no real father figures in the household, leavin em with a void in their life and searchin for somethin to identify with.  Couple that void with the fact that youth are already impressionable as all hell to begin with, and it really ain’t all that far-fetched to see how easily they can be manipulated to follow any agenda put in front of em.  Honestly, how many young Black males did you see rockin the skinny jeans before Wayne started doin it?  Compare that to how many started doin it after he did.  I know cats who were goin to the HANNAH MONTANA section of the store to get their skinnies, no bullshit…..and I just can’t see it as a coincidence that them same lil niggas are fruity as a jumbo pack of Skittles right now, and they’re all on the Lil B bandwagon.  Again, I’m just speakin on what I’ve observed with my own eyes.  If it insults the intelligence level of the kids participatin in the fukkery or the “artists” perpetuatin it, I really can’t help that.  It ain’t a shot at ALL the youngins, cuz I know plenty that ain’t with that bullshit whatsoever and have good ass heads on their shoulders.

        And sorry, but I simply can’t respect the “artistic integrity” of ANY man who calls himself a pretty bitch.  LOL

      • immackulate

        true you cant just turn someone gay by feeding them images HOWEVER you can change how NEGATIVE a person feels about it by feeding them images that support homosexuality coupled with laws created that support gays in military, gay marriage, child porn etc…

  • Profylin

    they aint telling us nothing new…  went from fight the power, to aint nothin but a G thang, to bling bling, to sitting on white bricks wrapped in duck tape, to lick me like a lolli pop, to techno homo style pop music…hip hop is buried underground somewhere breathing through a straw

    • And underground’s exactly where it needs to go back to, that’s the only way to set this whole shit straight…destroy and rebuild, let it come full circle and return to the roots it was birthed from:  the STREETS, not the boardrooms…..the STRUGGLE, not this meaningless materialistic bullshit.  Pure Hip Hop will NEVER get another run on a mainstream level cuz it provokes too much thought in its listeners and we start askin too many questions.  Plus you gotta consider the fact labels stopped hirin A&R’s who were actually in tune with the streets and what was happenin, and started hirin cirriculum-based kids fresh outta college, who don’t even listen to or like Hip-Hop, to decide what’s “hot”.  They don’t even do artist development no more, cuz they ain’t interested in actual artists…..long as a nigga can make somethin that sounds like everything else that’s allegedly poppin, that’s all they give a shit about.  We saw that with the rash of singles deals and ringtone deals a few years back, labels wasn’t even interested in whole albums from niggas….long story short though, it’s time for this thing of OURS to be taken back so maybe there’ll be a chance of still salvagin and rebuildin from the remains.

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