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Hip Hop's Anger Over Macklemore's Grammy Win Is About Respect Not Race

(AllHipHop Editorial) There has been a lot of discussion in the press the last few days about the Hip Hop community’s reaction to Macklemore and Ryan Lewis’ win for Best Rap Album at this year’s Grammys Awards.

Most of the attention has focused on Macklemore being a white rapper as the cause for the blowup.  However, centering the conversation around race is an inaccurate deception of why the Hip Hop community was pissed. In reality, it had nothing to do with the color of Macklemore’s skin and everything to do with the quality of his product.

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For some reason, there are people that want to display core rap fans as racist for not embracing Macklemore’s triumph on Grammy night. Those same people clearly do not understand the history of Hip Hop. While the culture was started by Black and Latino youth in the 1970’s, it has long incorporated participants of every race and nationality.

You can just look at a superstar like Eminem as a prime example. Em gets his fair share of hate, but he is also well-respected by many rap purists. You can even go back to the Beastie Boys and MC Serch, or currently look at artists like Mac Miller, Alchemist, Necro, or El-P.

Plus, the Hip Hop community includes hosts of white journalists, visual artists, DJs, and producers (including the legendary Rick Rubin) that have greatly contributed to the culture. Even Macklemore has been championed for years. He was selected as one of XXL magazine’s freshman class members in 2012, and AllHipHop did an exclusive feature on him that same year.

Hip Hop has never discriminated against race. It does have an aversion for disrespect, and that’s what Macklemore’s Best Rap Album win represents for many in Hip Hop. It’s this feeling that the “The Establishment” still doesn’t respect our art form enough to actually give credit to the works that deserve to be recognized.

Let’s be clear, Macklemore and Ryan Lewis had an amazing year. Their album went platinum. They had two number one singles on the Billboard charts. The reached a level of success that should be celebrated and rewarded, but the question at hand is: Did they release the best rap album of the year?

Most followers of rap music, both the press and the fans, would most likely say no. It’s not a stretch to assume Hip Hop listeners think that honor should have gone to Kendrick Lamar’s good kid, m.A.A.d. city. K. Dot’s major label debut is arguably one of the greatest albums of any genre over the last several years. Music critics hailed it as a masterpiece evidenced by its Metacritic.com rating of 91/100 (The Heist’s rating is 74/100).

Macklemore himself stated publicly that GKMC was the most deserving of the award telling The Source, “In terms of [that category], I think it should go to Kendrick… We obviously had massive success on commercial radio, and I think that, in ways, The Heist was a bigger album, but Kendrick has a better rap album.”

So if good kid, m.A.A.d city was the favorite to win Best Rap Album based on critical acclaim, support from rap fans, and a fellow nominee calling for its victory, why didn’t it win?

One excuse has been because Macklemore is a more mainstream artist. Well, Kendrick’s album sold nearly as many copies as Macklemore’s: 1,143,000 to 1,269,000. Kendrick has videos on YouTube with over 20 million views, and he also appeared on nationwide magazine covers for GQ and ESPN.

Not to mention he was clearly well-known enough to garner 7 Grammy nominations including Album of the Year, so it would seem Grammy members were aware of who he is. And if it was just about name recognition, wouldn’t Jay Z, Kanye West, or Drake have taken home the award? They are all more famous than both Kendrick and Macklemore and each already have at least one Best Rap Album Grammy win.

There’s no way to really tell why the Grammys decided to award Macklemore with the title of best rap album of the year. It could have been voters selected someone that resembles the person they see in the mirror (which happens in all aspects of life). It could have been that the left leaning Academy decided to honor Macklemore’s pro-gay marriage stance. It could have been inside industry politics. Who knows? Whatever the reason, it was not because Macklemore had the better body of work which should have been the only criteria that truly mattered.

This is at the heart of Hip Hop’s beef with the Grammys; it’s not anger at Macklemore or his race. After 40 years in existence (outliving other genres of music); after being co-opted into television commercials and print ads to sell products; after producing cross over megastars like Will Smith, Jay Z, LL Cool J, and Queen Latifah; after the President of the United States proudly confesses his love for the culture; after all this, the finest example of our artistry is still not properly celebrated by those who claim that their sole purpose is to do just that.

We lived through some of our greatest representatives like Public Enemy, Nas, 2Pac, The Notorious B.I.G., Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube, Run DMC, and many others getting completely ignored by the Grammys.

We lived through the fact that four decades later, only two of our albums have ever won the Grammy for Album of the Year despite such musical masterworks as Paid in Full, Midnight Marauders, The Chronic, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, The Marshall Mathers LP, and The College Dropout.

We lived through questionable Grammy decisions before like Young MC’s “Bust a Move” beating Public Enemy’s “Fight the Power” in 1990 for Best Rap Performance or the Black Eyed Peas’ back-to-back wins in the Best Rap Performance Duo/Group category in 2005 and 2006.

We know how this has all played out in the past, but this is the one time, with all the across-the-board acknowledgements given to Kendrick’s classic LP, that we hoped the Grammys would finally respect Hip Hop for its artistic excellence, and not just reward the hype.

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  • Black Jay

    Cosign the hell outta this article.

    But to dismiss the incident as nonracial isn’t accurate. Sure we’re mad as hip hop fans at being disrespected. And sure we’re mad at the voting system. But in the greater context and experience of being a BLACK MAN LIVING IN AMERICA, this was some serious racial sh*t. This goes at the very heart of The Black Man’s inability to see past any and all things being a “secret attempt at keeping the Black Man down”. But it also goes at the post-racial White Man that wears the button of “Why does it always have to be racial” and “My ancestors did that but I didn’t”. This incident outright attacks both individuals who, in all fairness, both may be 50% right. That’s why it’s so wrong and it stings so much. Because Kendrick and Macklemore aside, racism attacks the Black perspective AND the White Perspective. Racism attacks what America is aspiring to be. A place in which you are judged on skill and not color. But when you have a FOX NEWS and a few people out in ARIZONA throwing racist MARTIN LUTHER KING JR PARTIES, add that to the GRAMMY FIASCO, in that context, Black People AND White people have a right to be furious. So dismissing this incident as nonracial isn’t too honest. Everyone in America should be pounding their fists and demanding action when something like this happens. Because it hurts America. Blacks and Whites.

    • Chris

      Good read.

    • Jonathan Bacher

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  • i’mreloaded!

    Everyone knew Mack was gonna win. I can’t honestly say who had the better album because I never listened to Macklemore’s album and Kendrick’s album was good. I really didn’t think Kendrick’s album was all dat great but it was probably the best of the nominees in dat category. GKMC has some replay value.. Whoever Mack’s management team is creative because if it wasn’t for that pro-gay song he had, I don’t think he would even been nominated. My only gripe is why Macklemore is in the rap category when he’s clearly pop? Hard to lose when you got the whole gay community behind you and a lot of the execs and industry big wigs that control this type of stuff are for the most part down low homosexuals or straight up gay.

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  • Grammy Winner Taylor Swift

    Your commenters disagree.

    All the commenters in the “Macklemore wins!” post are talking about Black vs White and being generally homophobic.

    It’s as simple as that.

    • Black Jay

      You definitely need to read my comments below. This bud’s for you.

    • Jon

      The black community is a very insecure and prejudice one, right?

      • Black Jay

        Are you trying to be funny or something, or are you serious?

      • Chris

        History tells us that no other race of people have been more insecure and more prejudice than whites. No hate, just facts.

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        real talk…..

      • Ionithus

        Truth

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        Insecure whose the one that walks around repeating the word nigga this real nigga that and it happens to be a mutated albino how embarrassing.

      • tnrc75

        Right, it’s white people who are freaking out that the country is going to hell when black people’s wealth has suffered way more in the last 10 years.

      • Jonathan Bacher

        So white people are generally more informed/educated ?

      • tnrc75

        No…..I was being sarcastic….pointing out that even though black folks’ wealth has diminished more in the past 10 years, it’s white people who have thin skin.

    • tnrc75

      And the people are always right!

  • david3528

    The hip hop community knows who’s its winners are. Just look at the prior grammy stats. Young MC over Public Enemy? Black Eyed Peas over Anything? I remember being appalled as a 12 yr old white kid when the Fresh Prince beat Run DMC’s “Tougher Than Leather”. We all know that the award should have gone to GKMC or maybe even an artist with lesser commercial appeal. But to act shocked at the decision is ridiculous. No hate on Macklemore. Dude had a great year and can rap his ass off. I liked (didn’t love) his album. Better him than some dance act spewing nonsense. Let’s keep it moving.

  • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

    I generally don’t even recognize white artist as rappers. They are entertainers hip pop if you will. I mean the last ten years of rap has been garbage anyway with the exception of a few regardless of color. Rap has been around for about 35 years so you can choose from 3 decades this one doesn’t count. WATERED DOWN WHITE BOYS CORNY AS HELL.

    • Splatter

      aight Lord Jamar

    • water down black dudes corny too… and they make up a much larger percentage of hip hop then white dudes.. dumbass

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        Younger black dudes are making allot of bad rap.But white people don’t even have the right go listen to blink 182 or metallica you know the shit you guys use to listen to while putting rap down.You no culture having idiot.

      • younger black dudes? there also a ton of older ones too.. lol.. blik 182? i dont ever remember putting down rap, i love rap. Love rock too. So i guess black people who rock out have no culture then… i guess the roots stole white culture.. lmfao.. u need to learn u sumpin

      • reg joe

        Seriously, young man. You should just stop posting.

    • reg joe

      Corniness doesn’t have a color and isn’t owned by any genre, or people. To prejudge a rapper based on his color without even so listening is flat out racist. When we Blacks were treated in a certain manner simply based on our skin color, you had a problem with that. Now you want to turn around and do the same thing. You should change your name. There is nothing intelligent about you. BTW, no ones touching Em lyrically, White, Black, Purple or Green. No amount of racism will diminish that dudes skill. He is a student of the game. Maybe you should become a better student of life.

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  • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

    White guys rapping calling each other niggas they don’t even know who they are anymore. But the culture is so boring and plain so the next thing to do is try and emulate another culture that’s what white people have always been that’s what they will always be.

    • what white guys are rapping and calling each other niggas??

    • acapwn

      There were people like you back in the day that were white complaining about black men and women straightening their hair to look like their white and in some cases “pass”. We called them racists.

  • Slick Blak

    Macklemore won because he had a PRO GAY AGENDA….DUH …the power makers in music and entertainment especially the GRAMMY COMMITTEE are GAY!..HELLOOOOO? As soon as they mentioned who was up for the awards months ago I stated “BATTY RAP” winning hands down. Batty is how we refer to a homosexual in the islands.

    • Darkfather504

      That the agenda they’re pushing

      • Slick Blak

        What people killing me with is they trying to talk bout race or even that his album was pop. He could have had the same songs minus the pro gay ones and K.Dot would have won. The gays took licks early now they are winning and they control majority of the top influential decision making post. That’s FACTS, Heterosexuals are the minority and probably might be extinct in about 15 years. EVERYBODY will be skeeting in batty and have their ankles behind their necks. I mean they use music and TV to grooming us in to just accepting this lifestyle as the more accepted one currently. If you want to make it in music or entertainment enter as a homosexual versus a heterosexual and see who moves up quicker.

      • reg joe

        I agree except that his album was not pop. What do you think made it Pop? The fact that it didn’t talk about killing and shooting and denigrating women in every bar? Is that why you think its Pop? Because it isn’t about the ghetto? It doesnt have to be about the ghetto to be rap. Youll figure that out in time.

      • Willie Stewart II

        It was pop cause of that corny ass Can’t hold us song.

      • Batty Rap? LOLOLOLOLOL

    • Executive

      Batty rap? Lmfao you just made snot fly out my nose mane.

    • Jonathan Bacher

      You sound like an idiot and you mustve heard nothing more than that song

      • Slick Blak

        I heard your momma wailing while I was giving her back shots.

    • wes mc

      That was a very camp sounding Helloooooo.

  • s0rethumb

    As someone who grew up in the era of Planet Rock and forward, it has been interesting to watch the balloon expand in hip hop. I liken PE, Tribe, Stetsasonic etc..being the beta in the VCR vhs vs beta tapes. Macklemore is the modern day vhs and the betas will go the way of the others. For better or worse. There is room for many lanes in music, even if the grammys choose controversy at the expense of hip hop’s popularity to make news.

  • Immortal

    Folks can think what they want to about Mac, but IMO he took it not because of his stance on anything or even that his album was better. I think he took it because he was a breath of fresh air in an overpopulated society of industry made rappers. K Dot was better and he too was different and needed in Hip Hop, but in Mac’s album was there any mention of violence? Was there any hate spewed towards anyone? If I’m wrong I’ll gladly admit it, but we’ve been complaining about how RAP not Hip Hop has not had a real shift in how business is done in over 20 years. I know Mac should’ve won best RAP ablum hands down, but K Dot owns the best Hip Hop award hands down. Shame there isn’t a category between the two styles.

    • Agreed.

    • Charismatic eNegro Jef Vinson

      It was more radio friendly. But that doesn’t mean it was a better album.

  • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

    It’s just not authentic coming from this guy. It’s over hyped radio music and that’s not hip hop that’s hip pop. Kind of like Katie Perry Justin Bieber crap it’s not genuine.

    • Jonathan Bacher

      It is genuine
      Be honest, did you listen ?

    • dude drake jayz kanye rick ross is all hip pop. wake up bro

  • Jovaughn

    Great article

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  • steveadore

    The idea that Macklemore being a more mainstream artist is not valid. Their was a time when popular albums that had great music where award as the Grammy winner but the Grammys has created an illusion that they are more into quality and not quantity in regards to sales. For example, Kanye lost album of the year to Herbie Hancock and then Eminem lost album of the year to Arcade Fire. What the Grammys is really saying is that they don’t consider real hip hop to be quality music.

    • yeah but you gotta think the other people made quality music too.. so..

  • Executive

    Too much ass kissing in the game.

  • hiphop doesn’t need the grammys are respect from them so fucckem x10..i cringe every time a hiphop artist performs at the G, that shit is too polished and plastic for hiphop man.

    • have you seen the sold out rappers the past however many years??? lol.. most of them fit right in..

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  • Mofos need to stop crying. To be honest gkmc came out about 2 years ago. i loved tm103 and my name is my name too. you odnt see me crying about it. what they at don’t make you shit. it dosnt give the artists anymore or less money. unless its in their contracts, but besides that its just music.

    • reg joe

      Nice theft of the J.Cole lyrics, but it absolutely gives them more money and exposure. Take a look on iTunes. All of the winners are promoted.

      • It’s actually a Jay-Z line genius. Blueprint 1 “aint no love”. do your research.

      • Willie Stewart II

        Sorry dude but you get a thumbs down for not recognizing when J Cole takes a Jay lyric.

    • Willie Stewart II

      So was Mackelmore’s album. It was actually released weeks before gkmc.

  • Carlos

    i think a lot of real hip hop fans do not care what the grammys think, we always get screwed. Macklemore had a good album but lets be realistic, he got the award because of that gay song he did (not disrespect, i like song).

    • he got the award for selling recorda, making good records, and doing good things. i dont like him but it is what it is.

  • Opposite Of Everyone

    Hip-hop doesn’t care about the Grammy’s. Hip-hop is from the streets, The grammy’s are from Hollywood. Who in the pantheon of Hip-Hop thought for a second that whoever run the Grammys would be able to discern the best hip-hop album?

    The Grammy’s blatantly have no meaningful connection with Hip-Hop; but then again nowdays, neither does rap music….

  • John Q. Public

    Kendrick is just a better rapper plain and simple. Its only about “race” when it comes to these internet comment sections… and Grammys don’t know sh*t (Pac & Nas never won Grammys so that’s how smart they are)

    • they truly don’t know sh!t and its not just hiphop..if im not mistaken i think Bob Marley didn’t get any grammys..

      • John Q. Public

        Didn’t know that. Crazy

  • Splatter

    he won cuz he was non violent, he white, he’s pro gay and he’s pop. people who choose the winner aren’t in your neighborhoods and parties listening and observing what the masses think is good. they read soundscan, they watch commercials to see who’s music is being endorsed. They listen for who has the less curse words, who has a non threatening persona and who there children at home are listening to. Hip Hop should form a summit like they did when violence was on a rise. The summit should ask the Grammys to not give out an award in hip hop or just boycott the show as a whole. Macklemore probably dreamed of winning a grammy before he became famous and now that he has them, he doesn’t even feel deserving of it. should be a committee started in hip hop to give out theyre own awards. (Not BET awards) but a real show that resembles the old Source awards.

  • “L” Judge and Jury

    What pisses me off is he won a grammy for a song thats not even considered acceptable in hip hop. Like you wouldnt (as a god fearing Christian) follow a druken preacher so how could a genre that doesn’t fully accept homosexuality be represented in the grammys by an artist that’s clearly pro homosexuality…….p.s it was a good song but that is no excuse!

    • reg joe

      Hip hop is a constantly changing entity. To say its not accepted is obviously incorrect and moronic. No, it shouldn’t have won, but to say the album isn’t accepted, despite selling 1.2 million copies, is pretty dumb. White folks have been buying the majority of rap for well over a decade now. Thats common knowledge.

  • JerZeBoy

    Everyone is going to have different opinions but he did have a more versatile album instead of the same old drug selling, shoot your family Im a millionaire music that is constantly put out, he searched for other subjects, vibes etc. you have to respect his grind, they did this all independent, didn’t have the majors $$$ to back them. It’s a Grammy though, do they really have much a clue?

    • “L” Judge and Jury

      I remember people thinking Wiz Kahlifa didnt have any major backing and all along he was with atlantic, and before then he was with warner brothers if not mistaken, and it was all a part of his promotion, this is probably the same situation

      • JerZeBoy

        I hear you but Even if he somehow was, he is not signed directly to a major and isn’t seeing the same $ as a headline artist on a major. That’s a fact. Do you know about payola schemes and what not by big/major labels it crazy to try to get airplay with out that. Big names want there name all over it so the other labels know who is king.

    • Opposite Of Everyone

      Grind/work ethic is irrelevant. As a listener I would rather a lazy-ass sh1t-kicker with skills than a hard-working but pointless MC

      • JerZeBoy

        it is relevant in saying he creates his own luck. you consider him a pointless emcee? really?

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        no, I wasn’t commenting on Macklemore; it’s the phrase ‘respect his grind’ that irks me. I judge art on it’s own merit (the finished result) not the amount of work that’s gone into it. Some people might take years of grinding to produce the same result as what anothers efforts produce within days.

      • reg joe

        Agreed.

    • reg joe

      The Heist had only two hits. K.Dots entire album was nothing but classics.

    • Willie Stewart II

      Did Kendrick have I’m a millionaire / drug delear / shoot your family in his album or did you not listen to it? Yeah the nigga is from compton where as he stated in a mixtape, everyone he knew was either a blood or a crip. He told his story. You can’t expect him to rap about somebody else’s life but even considering that, he’s not rapping about the same garbage you here on the radio. The album actually has a concept and story behind it that follows the name.

  • Opposite Of Everyone

    actually, we should remember this is a ‘best rap album’ award, not a ‘best hip-hop album’ award…

    • “L” Judge and Jury

      Uhm,good point

    • reg joe

      idiot. Hip-hop is the culture. Rap is the music of the culture. Nice try though.

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        incorrect, adolescent. Plenty of Rap music has nothing to do with the culture of Hip-Hop. Spice Girls, Gangnam Style and a thousand other pop acts have featured rapping… were they hip hop though? Exactly.

        Furthermore, Rapping predates hip-hop culture so it’s impossible for all rap to be part of the culture..

        There’s hip-hop rap that embraces the other elements of the culture and then there’s just plain old rapping that ain’t got sh1t to do with hip-hop.

  • Jared

    Not because he is white but his overall content does not compare to a rap album that true Hip-Hop heads would consider to be rewarded.

  • Cloud Air

    if anyone is pro gay today they are accepted by this sick disgusting world

    fagglemore gave gays a pro-gay people an anthem to sing. i haven’t even heard the damn song i just know about it cuz people are always talking about the guy with the gay song

    the grammys are not legitimate.. we all know that

    i thought rap was bad in the 90s.. now we got gay dudes making gay anthems?

    rappers wearing skirts, making songs about being gay, and your fave rapper is in the illuminati.. the rap game is trash lol

    fagglemore u need to repent

    gay dudes get aids, then they die and end up in hell

    and i’m not being hateful i’m just telling u.. u need to stop cosigning bullshit perversions

    no one wants to hear your songs about incest or whatever fucked up shit u got coming next u car salesman looking faggot

    • Slick Blak

      ouch!

    • wes mc

      Did some old white dude molest you? So much animosity. Also cloud air that’s a pretty gay name, you ain’t rollin with no thugs with such a homo pseudonym

  • kurt_kobane

    EVERYONE IS WRONG,THATS NOT THE PROBLEM,IM A MEMBER OF THE VOTING GRAMMY COMMITTEE,AND NOT ENOUGH INDUSTRY URBAN AND HIPHOP ARTIST/PRODUCERS/WRITERS/ETC….APPLYING FOR VOTING MEMBERSHIP….which leads to situations where the the real winner gets outvoted by people who dont know about that catorgory. as a voting member there are catorgories that i dont know one artist from the next like best instrumental world artist ..if a name is familiar then thats who i vote for..lol…just because that name is familiar to me…us multi platinum and experienced veteran industry people need to get more of the younger industry hiphop /urban artist/writers/producers/engineers to become voting members then this will no longer be a issue…..it has nothing to do with color,sexuality,its a issue of our own people not getting involved in the voting process….we too busy partying and trying to be seen at the grammys and not voting….

  • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

    The. so called corny white guy doesn’t really even understand the culture of hip hop or rap. When Guns n Roses finally played out went completely crazy and immediately after Kurt Cobain with the grunge sound committed suicide. You all had nothing to latch on to because so called metal and grunge played out. So you had to find something else to latch on to and because rappers were much better back then you couldn’t break through back then. Around 2002 something strange happened white boys started trying to walk like us a little bit talk like us a little. With the world becoming more transparent and faker each year you then have white guys I guess you would say trying to act hood and saying whats up my nigga and getting low fades. You know doing the shit that we do sometimes. So between that and the rise of social media you somehow lost who you were or was supposed to be. Now you so called white lyrical geniuses are giving advice to black people about rap and hip hop. Do me a favor RAP GODS HAHAHAHA !!!!!!! This shit is unreal figure out who you are first my nigga. FAKE UNAUTHENTIC TRANSPARENT !!! I figured out who you were in 15 minutes why can’t you?

    • Orus Dias Delaney

      3 white Rappers were the 2nd Group making Rap tapes. Ever heard of the Beastie Boys. None of these kids can nor ARE rapping anymore. Drake had guitars playing and was just reading fast w/out rhyming on SNL. That 2nd set was R&B. What he needs to stay with.

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        My favorite rap group of all time is RUN DMC…..That was a different time the Beastie BOYS were the Beasties Boys. Crazy ass white boys rapping having fun and most of all being themselves I have much respect for that.

  • kurt_kobane

    VERYONE IS WRONG,THATS NOT THE PROBLEM,IM A MEMBER OF THE VOTING GRAMMY COMMITTEE,AND NOT ENOUGH INDUSTRY URBAN AND HIPHOP ARTIST/PRODUCERS/WRITERS/ETC….APPLYING FOR VOTING MEMBERSHIP….which leads to situations where the the real winner gets outvoted by people who dont know about that catorgory. as a voting member there are catorgories that i dont know one artist from the next like best instrumental world artist ..if a name is familiar then thats who i vote for..lol…just because that name is familiar to me…us multi platinum and experienced veteran industry people need to get more of the younger industry hiphop /urban artist/writers/producers/engineers to become voting members then this will no longer be a issue…..it has nothing to do with color,sexuality,its a issue of our own people not getting involved in the voting process….we too busy partying and trying to be seen at the grammys and not voting….

  • Black Jay

    Man….. Normally I don’t do this but some of y’all are on some serious racial sh*t. So let me re-post my comments from earlier…..

    Cosign the hell outta this article.

    But to dismiss the incident as nonracial isn’t accurate. Sure we’re
    mad as hip hop fans at being disrespected. And sure we’re mad at the
    voting system. But in the greater context and experience of being a
    BLACK MAN LIVING IN AMERICA, this was some serious racial sh*t. This
    goes at the very heart of The Black Man’s inability to see past any and
    all things being a “secret attempt at keeping the Black Man down”. But
    it also goes at the post-racial White Man that wears the button of “Why
    does it always have to be racial” and “My ancestors did that but I
    didn’t”. This incident outright attacks both individuals who, in all
    fairness, both may be 50% right. That’s why it’s so wrong and it stings
    so much. Because Kendrick and Macklemore aside, racism attacks the Black
    perspective AND the White Perspective. Racism attacks what America is
    aspiring to be. A place in which you are judged on skill and not color.
    But when you have a FOX NEWS and a few people out in ARIZONA throwing
    racist MARTIN LUTHER KING JR PARTIES, add that to the GRAMMY FIASCO, in
    that context, Black People AND White people have a right to be furious.
    So dismissing this incident as nonracial isn’t too honest. Everyone in
    America should be pounding their fists and demanding action when
    something like this happens. Because it hurts America. Blacks and
    Whites.

    • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

      When will we learn that we can’t expect our oppressors to have sympathy for us…they still haven’t given us a dime for slavery. You think that class ceiling at your job is just your imagination? You actually think that you are getting passed over for that position because you are not qualified? THIS COUNTRY IS BUILT ON THAT GLASS CEILING…WAKE UP!!!

      • Black Jay

        Cosign most of what you said… Except the classification of EVERY JOB having that same oppressor sitting behind the scenes. Sometimes we do it to ourselves. I’m not saying that racism isn’t rampant. But there are some Brothers I wouldn’t hire to take out the garbage. And that’s the God’s Honest Truth. There are a lot of White idiots in the world. But there are a lot of Black Idiots in this world too (as demonstrated by some of the comments on this thread). I just try not to generalize whenever possible. Because every White dude ain’t trying to keep me down. Sometimes it’s the brothers.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        I KNOW EVERY WHITE PERSON ISN’T TRYING TO KEEP US DOWN, BUT THE PEOPLE RUNNING THIS COUNTRY KNOW EXACTLY WHO WE ARE, AND ITS THEIR PRIMARY CONCERN TO KEEP THEIR FOOT ON OUR NECK…YOU SEE ANY BLACK PEOPLE IN THE PERCILLIAN CLUB, PHOENIX CLUB, AND SKULL AND BONES; AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING THIS COUNTRY…IF THEY REALLY WANTED DIVERSITY IN THE UPPER RANKS OF THIS COUNTRY, YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD BE RECRUITING MINORITIES INTO THESE FRATERNITIES, BUT THEY DON’T WANT THAT…

      • Black Jay

        I’m just from the school of thought that you fight what you can see. That’s just reality for me. Whenever racism rears it’s ugly head I do my best to chop it off. I can’t be concerned with sh*t I can’t see because I can’t battle it on a logical level. That doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be careful and that I should forget the past. It just means that there is a time when you have to be fair in life. Enemies in America are of all races. And they all come at you based on different things. Limiting my vision to just one ethnicity is definitely setting myself up for destruction. Just because someone looks like me doesn’t mean they think and feel like me. Ain’t no such thing as “my brother’s keeper” in this country. Ask the biggest sell out ever. Ask Herman Cain.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU CAN’T TRUST SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE IS BY DESIGN…HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE WILLIE LYNCH LETTER…THIS IS JUST THE OLD METHOD OF “DIVIDE AND CONQUER”…JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN’T SEE SOMETHING, DOESN’T MEAN IT DOESN’T EXIST…YOU MIGHT NOT BELIEVE THAT THE POWERS THAT BE HAVE A SECRET AGENDA TOWARD YOU, BUT YOU COULDN’T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH…ASK YOURSELF WHY AREN’T THERE ABORTION CLINICS IN THE RICH NEIGHBORHOODS OR WHY JEWISH PEOPLE DON’T VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN; OR ASK YOURSELF WHY THERE AREN’T “SAVE-A-LOTS” IN WEALTHY PARTS OF THE CITIES…G00GLE “AGENDA 21” OR “MAGARET SANGER”(THE FOUNDER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD)

      • Black Jay

        I hear what you’re saying. You do have to ask yourself a few questions about “unseen obstacles” affecting your life. But the easiest test for me is this…. I look at my son and think how can I bring him up minus all of the bullsh*t I was exposed to. What’s relevant to his survival? Is it helpful to b*tch about some White dude at my job? Or is it better for me to go out and start my own business so that he doesn’t have to be exposed to that sh*t? Do I tell him to worry about secret societies and “White” people holding him down? Or do I give him the history of our people and tell him to go out into the world and form his own view of life and it’s obstacles? Contrary to the average man, I don’t want my son to be like me. I want him to be a better version of me. The world will be completely different in 10 or 20 years. I don’t want my kids to be trying to outlive fears and phobias I’ve put in their heads because of my experiences. Life will be different.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        I RESPECT YOUR POINT OF VIEW, BUT IN 10 TO 20 YEARS, THIS COUNTRY WILL BE IN A WORSE PLACE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW…THIS ECONOMY HAS A BOND BUBBLE THAT’S GOING TO MAKE THE HOUSING BUBBLE LOOK LIKE A WALK IN THE PARK…BUT BESIDES THAT, THERE IS A BLACK MAN MURDERED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT EVERY 40HRS…THERE ARE LAWS LEGALIZING GAY MARRIAGE, BEASTIALITY, AND TALKS OF PEDOPHILIA IN THE NEAR FUTURE…THE GOVERNMENT IS BUILDING PRISONS BASED ON THE 4TH GRADE SCORES OF OUR YOUTH, AND 1 IN EVERY 3 BLACK MALE IS LIKELY TO END UP IN PRISON…G00GLE “THE INDUSTRIAL PRISON COMPLEX”…THE PRISON POPULATION HAS GROWN 20% IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND WHO DO YOU THINK THE PEOPLE GOING TO PRISON LOOK LIKE…THEY LOOK LIKE YOUR SON…BLACK AND HISPANIC PEOPLE MAKE UP 90% OF THE PRISON POPULATION, WHEN WHITE PEOPLE COMMIT 70% OF THE CRIME IN AMERICA…YOU THINK THAT’S NOT BY DESIGN?

        ITS LIKE CHESS…IF YOU DON’T KNOW YOUR OPPONENTS END GAME FROM THE BEGINNING, YOU ALREADY LOST THE GAME…YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE YOUR OFFSPRING KNOW THIS…I MAKE SURE MY SON KNOWS THIS

    • Myleage

      i agree with you. some blacks say whites are being racists for choosing macklemore and whites say blacks are racists for choosing kendrick when really its a mix of both. macklemore had hits but you cannot say him being white had absolutely nothing to do with it. we had black stars bigger than macklemore in their first year and didnt win a Grammy like Drake. if drake was white and had all the same songs he prob would have won some. me personally i dont see race but whites do tend to be in a different culture than blacks and thats probably the problem with these award shows. ppl who probably are not even that much into traditional hip hop vote on it. these so called experts are prob white and have more of a preference for hip pop and crossover songs and so they vote for stuff that they hear in their neighborhoods and the places they frequent which prob rarely play kendrick or mos def. i rarely heard macklemore on stations like v-103 that played straight hip hop but he was played heavy on top 40 stations. hip hop isnt like a strict, cult-like genre like other types of music are. For example, in order for someone to vote in the folk music grammys that person has to be heavily integrated in the music culture and be able to distinguished all of the nominees. since folk music isnt mainstream, the expert in this field had to really be on they shit. but hip hop on the other hand is more mainstream and now just a casual listener to the top 40s has the authority to vote whats hot in the hip hop grammys based on what they like, which is why a more hip pop artist like macklemore who ripped the pop charts but was lukewarm on the rap charts won.

  • Richie Martin

    “Hip Hop has never discriminated against race.”

    Come on now … that statement couldn’t be further from the truth.

  • Truknown

    THATS REAL what you say, but I still stand by what Scarface said. I like mackemore, and I think he is a good rapper. He not to blame for this, and I also agree that maybe people just voted for what they heard the most? You know that mackemore mixes hiphop with pop, so it might serve as an example for rappers to expand their music to other demographics.

    • John Q. Public

      Scarface is one of my favorite rappers ever and I bump the Diary monthly. But he was sounding crazy when he was talkin about kkk infiltrating hiphop industry a while back. He was trippin.
      Could be the fact hes pushin 50yrs old, from a racist state like Texas and himself has a history of parinoia and bipolar depression problems.
      I love Face’s music but agree wit him no bit on that.

  • Orus Dias Delaney

    20-25 years ago it’d been a big deal if the Beastie Boys got AOTY or something. None of these kids are really rapping anymore. They’re sounding more Rock-n-Roll. Kanye is sounding more like a wanna-be Prince than a rapper. Drake’s 1st set on SNL just sounded like he was reading too fast while guitars were playing. He at least has some R&B skills.

  • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

    When will we learn that we can’t expect our oppressors to have sympathy for us…they still haven’t given us a dime for slavery. You think that class ceiling at your job is just your imagination? You actually think that you are getting passed over for that position because you are not qualified? THIS COUNTRY IS BUILT ON THAT GLASS CEILING…WAKE UP!!!

    • cj

      lol people like you are hated

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        THAT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY…

    • Orus Dias Delaney

      Spike Lee called, that’s his game.

      • John Q. Public

        U mean DJ Lance

    • Myleage

      we need our reparations

  • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

    When will we learn that we can’t expect our oppressors to have sympathy for us…they still haven’t given us a dime for slavery. You think that class ceiling at your job is just your imagination? You actually think that you are getting passed over for that position because you are not qualified? THIS COUNTRY IS BUILT ON THAT GLASS CEILING…WAKE UP!!

  • Oknas

    The grammys is not for us, its owned by rich white people so of course they are going to pick their own due to racial bias(racism) and not based on art. They own it, put their money in so they are in 100% control. If 2 people, 1 white, 1 black made the same exact song with the same lyrics,flow and everything, who would you choose to win?
    The real question is why to blacks beg to be accepted by whites? Thats the real issue

    • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

      Real shit love your inner circle first and foremost. know your self worth.

    • Big_Chill

      Exactly, I never understood why these submissive soul negros look to whites for validity, who are they to be equal to?

  • John Q. Public

    And for everyone out there crying racism and Grammys always want a white person to win… U sound dumb. Grammys suck at picking winners but don’t act like only white people have Grammys. Im pretty sure they worship Beyoncé and Jay Z just as much if not more then they do Macklemore and other white artists.

    • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

      But J and Bey once have sold their souls to the devil…..

      • Black Jay

        Quick question…. If Jay and Bey sold their souls to the devil, who owns the title for Bill Gates and Warren Buffet’s soul? Like my man Chris Rock said,
        “If Bill Gates or Warren Buffet woke up one morning with Oprah Winfrey money, they would cut their wrists!”
        There’s a difference between being rich and being wealthy. Black folks need to stop shooting down those that have made it. Because I don’t see a gang of White People shooting at Bill Gates and calling him Illuminati. And he’s THE RICHEST DUDE IN THE SOLAR SYSTEM!!!!!

      • wallace

        That’s some true shit.

      • John Q. Public

        Race Card & Illuminati… 2 great ways to sound like an idiot in a discussion

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        Race card one of the most over used terms. I say what I say could care less if you or anyone agrees. Remember it’s social media you usually find the most fake people on these sites. just my opinion I’m no authority neither are you just venting a little bit I don’t take this shit that serious.

      • Dope

        See how it works. When a black artist looses to a white artist you all claim it’s racist america’s fault. When black artist wins over white artist you say they sold their soul.. seems like you just want to blame the ”white america”. And that makes you a racist.

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        I don’t even pay any attention to you all to be honest the only white rap artist that I have ever purchased has been The Beastie Boys and 3rd Bass. The rest of that bullish you cats can have that. that shit is like some hot garbage. Real niggas don’t listen to young nigga shit and corny white boys that shit is a disgrace. The young cats I do like Kendrick Lamar,Wale,B.O.B. That’s HIP HOP.

  • wei sheng

    grammy wins don’t define good musak, we love hip hop and should expect this from the elites who simply push artist like this to the fans, marketing, spins etc etc is what got wacklemore the win. keep supporting real hip hop, we’ll make it out of this executive slump soon enough

  • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

    That’s me saying they are part of hip pop now. Pop radio music that’s what niggas do chase money forget where they come from you understand. Phuck a damn Grammy that’s white folks shit.

  • Iris

    Yohance Kyles, this is a great article that brings a historical and cultural perspective to the conversation. Thank you.

  • Kmac_Jones

    Hip Hop ever since Kurtis Blow has been control by the white elites. The white elites
    control radio spins and which record will get spins and who will get the most
    spins throughout the day. The white elite award shows control which hip hop
    artist will get recognized nationally for their music in that year. The same
    can be said about national magazine and TV publications as well, and through
    all these media vehicles the white elites have been able to control and give
    their own interpretation of what Hip Hop music is. Black people in the form of hip
    hop have tried to gain control of its own destiny, yet has been still forced
    through systematical means to conform to White American standards.

    • John Q. Public

      “turn off the radio… turn off that b*llshit”, Dead Prez… The radio or the media will never define what Rap music is for me.

      otherwise I would be singing “Vesace Vesace Vesace”

      • Kmac_Jones

        Are you telling me not to listen to the radio or all of America! Its gonna be hard to tell all of america to not listen to the radio. I don’t listen to the radio… For the fact that I know the white elites are brainwashing everyone with their interpretation of what my people’s music is… They prove that to all of america when they chose to honor mackelmore instead of kendrick… They want more americans to believe that mackelmore was the biggest thing in hip hop in 2013 but in all honesty in the real hip hop community he was barely noticed… the control is real

      • John Q. Public

        wudever u say farrakhan

  • jacksjus

    Ninja’s are racist and that’s it. I loved Kendrick’s album but it was focused on a certain demographic whereas, Macklemore made more worldly music that touched millions. He sold more than Kendrick with no label backing. Only a racist would deny this fact. My opinion is Kendrick had the better album, but the numbers don’t lie and clearly more people were feeling Macklemore’s work.

    Besides who gives a shit about the Grammy’s when it comes to HipHop? Name me one true HipHop album that has one Album of the Year? No The Miseducation and Speaker Box do not count.

    • John Q. Public

      exactly

      • $17637591

        John Q. Public and Jacksjus sound like IDIOTS trying to say Macklemore being white had nothing to do with him receiving several UNDESERVED hip hop Grammys. Not one hip hop publication gave Macklemore a higher rating than GKMC which is proof the Grammys dont know nor UNDERSTAND hip hop. Niether do you two IDIOTS.

      • jacksjus

        Poorichboy…..You just proved my point. I can tell you were sweating bullets typing that response. Y U mad?

      • $17637591

        When you tell the truth you dont gotta sweat. Was Macklemore sweating when he admitted GKMC was a better album than the Heist? Was he sweating when he admitted he won because hes white?

        DETROIT HARD HEADZ

      • John Q. Public

        Macklemore had a rap album more friendly to the pop charts. The Grammys seem to award the most Pop Chart friendly records and albums. I believe that is why he won. (And why Drake’s album beat Nas last year). To say that the Grammys conspire to make white ppl win more then others is stupid.
        In my opinion Kendrick put out the best Rap album in recent memory and definitely deserved to Grammy, its annoying he lost but how many ppl really thought he would win vs Macklemore. Macklemore ruled the charts all year round and that’s what the Grammys care about.

    • $17637591

      To Jacksjus: No your wrong…..more WHITE and GAY people were feeling Macklemores album. Macklemore himself admitted Kendricks album was better so how is that a “racist” opinion? Last time I checked the Grammys holds itself as a Critically acclaimed award so total amount of albums sold should be irrelevant. White people who are not hip hop “purist” are the ones that give Grammy nods and those same White people elected to give a white man several undeserved awards.

      DETROIT HARD HEADZ

    • Kmac_Jones

      Name me one true HipHop album that has one Album of the Year? No The Miseducation and Speaker Box do not count.

      Bro the article CLEARLY STATES that only two hiphop albums have won album of the year in the last 40 years! smh your question is not only hella stupid but highly irrelevant.

      • jacksjus

        Do you think those were true to form HipHop albums?
        Not implying that they were bad albums but neither could be truly categorized as HipHop in their entirety. That is why I said they don’t count. Smh!

    • Celz

      It’s not about race.. When Steve Nash won all those MVPs over Kobe it was like damn.. But homie was ballin.. It was a tough decision and Nash was puttin up legendary numbers those years. Mackelmore got bars but he’s hardly legendary..

    • Celz

      And the Miseducation and Speakerboxx/ Love Below are more Hip-Hop than 99% of the trash that comes out as Hip-Hop today.

  • Non Slacker

    Double turn-table record spinning pioneered by a Jamaican-which gave way to Puerto Ricans cutting the first record by ‘beat sampling over a funk-disco tune-then an African American became the first mainstream rapper.
    Now; in the same way they took Jazz, Rock-n-Roll and Pop. White Americans has signaled in 2013: “WE OWN HIP-HOP”
    The ‘Injuns’ better off living in dwindling reservations: Has “GOD” given America and all of America to the European?
    As one American pastor boasted, “It’s A-Miracle, not America.”

    • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

      Ooooo you know your shit I like that. But they own HIP POP it will never be as authentic as when it’s done by a person of color HIP HOP to me is a culture a movement not understood by white people

  • jacksjus

    There are enough Black artists throughout history to create our own awards show. Why hold the “white man’s” award show to such a high standard if they continue to ignore Black music. Why not hold more value in a BET or Soul Train award? Quit looking up to daddy to acknowledge us and take this ish by the balls and honor ourselves. That’s a little something for you that can’t seem to get over what ha always been. They don’t even air the HipHop category anymore and yet ninjas are still whining about it. FOH.

    • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

      I agree with you one hundred %.

    • PrimeTime

      The “White Man’s” award show gets shown on National TV…K. Dot won album of the year at the BET awards, isnt that all that matters?

  • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

    What happened to white boys having names like Billy Ray, John John, and Prutis. Now you have white boys calling themselves colorful nick names like MGK, Paul Wall you mean like MJG Mac Mall sound familiar. BONIFIED BITERS Copying is your whole histories work.

    • david3528

      How about black folks calling themselves Gotti, Frank White, Ceasar, Rocafella, Mackavelli, ect… All white people. I could go on forever. Stop throwing rocks at the throne COCKROACH

      • david3528

        White people created the internet you’re typing on too. The cars rappers brag about. The clothes rappers buy. I could go on and on. Go get a job and stop spending all of my tax dollars.

      • Guest

        Don’t forget the GUN. We created that too. Black folks LOVE GUNS

      • Guest

        Correction: All Americans love guns.

      • Kmac_Jones

        Hi my name is david and Im a racist who loves black music… I’m confused

      • david3528

        Correction, I hate everybody. We’ve earned our stereotypes. I acknowledge and embrace them. After a long day of work I came on here and saw some racist sh*t so I fired back. That’s all. It is what it is.

      • Celz

        I’ll take science, math, and medicine. And you can send all of Europe’s languages over to India, you ignorant piece of shyt.

      • Celz

        People would love to romanticize that America is #1 because it is the greatest. Or since we live in a westernized world European’s are the superior race. But the success of America and Europe hinge on 1 easily explained factor, resistance. Water naturally flows to point of lowest resistance, so does power. When the great civilizations of the ancient world i.e. Indus Valley, Mesopotamia, Nile Delta and various others wanted to expand they had to enter rival groups territory. So when the Greeks and Romans were educated on civil engineering and science in these far away places they brought this knowledge back to Europe where there were not any advanced civilizations. Being little to no resistance Europe was easily conquered, The same thing occurred with the Native Americans. Once the industrial revolution hit might was measured by money and industry not armies and agriculture. So the Americans needed replacement natives since they killed most of them off, the definition of slavery was changed from indentured servitude to meaning a person and his offspring’s life perpetually. So in coming years you can expect the country with the largest and least respected work force to rapidly gain power ( Hello China!) where in the past power was determined by farmland acreage and being isolated from other advanced civilizations.

        It’s funny how you want to take credit for a stranger developing science but ignore its findings on race.. Lol hopefully you are young enough for the ignorance to be cured.

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        Italians that’s good entertainment no biggie.

    • wes mc

      Prutis?? Da fuq? So are all black people called Jamal? Gay ass John Lennon glasses wearing bitch.

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        Yea you can talk shit on line not my style.

      • wes mc

        All you do on here is talk shit, you are neither intelligent nor a hoodlum you’re just a shook bitch

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        Sensitive mutated albino it’s not that serious. I already know you could not see me in reality calm down punk ass white boy.

      • wes mc

        Sensitive mutated albino lmao you mind if I use that for the name of my first album? You’re a bigger bitch than dude with the Elmo sweater. Seriously though, I’m sorry that old white dude dressed as Santa molested you back in ’83. You don’t have to hate a whole race over that shit, you should consider therapy

    • wes mc

      You should call yourself Mitch

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        I could care less what you think I should call myself.

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        if you ‘could care less’ that means you must care a bit. Surely you mean you ‘couldn’t care less’ which means you already don’t give a f?

  • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

    When will we learn that we can’t expect our oppressors to have sympathy for us…they still haven’t given us a dime for slavery. You think that glass ceiling at your job is just your imagination? You actually think that you are getting passed over for that position because you are not qualified? THIS COUNTRY IS BUILT ON THAT GLASS CEILING…WAKE UP!!!

    • david3528

      I agree. However, my family came here from Italy in the 1920’s, stood in bread lines, fought in two wars, and worked extremely hard. I don’t owe anybody SH*T

      • Kmac_Jones

        Yeah you do, you owe hip hop a nodd for fighting hard against systematic racism and still losing cause selfish people like you don’t care what blacks have to fight against and when we do make better music the white boy still gets the award even if he doesn’t think he deserves it himself. Who gives a shit what your grandparents did, what are you doing to change to world and make it better?

      • david3528

        Same thing you are. Just working hard trying to make it in America. Being a good father, providing for my family. See my friend, my culture helps each other out. How are you guys doing at that?

      • Kmac_Jones

        your culture? If youre not apart of this hiphop thing then why are you here talking with us about our issues… You come here and spout that same racist ignorance your culture has always spouted. You and the gammys love looking down on blk folks but cant get enough of our style…

      • david3528

        Style? How about those cars? How about those clothes? Last time I checked Gucci and Lamborghini were Italian. I’m a hip hop fan just coming on here addressing some racist comments with a few of my own. Just because I’m white I can’t fire back?

      • Kmac_Jones

        bro your sense of rational is dumb, you seen some racist shit so you decided to be racist also… Do you know how much racist shit black folks see on a daily. I came here after working and had to deal with your dumb racist ass. Just another part of my day as a black man. Thanks for making my day that much harder MR. WHITE MAN.

      • ColorBlindness

        Sorry but you are being racist. It is extremely frustrating to see what people are saying in the comment section. I for one would love it people would stop pulling the race card. It is so played out. Get a new move. Maybe the new move can be to work hard and break through the glass ceiling (you say is there). I am a woman so I have to do the same to succeed in life. Focusing on race and the negativity is not good for your health.

      • Elayorx El

        Color, you do have much potential, but please know that the whole deck is comprised of race, so every card is made up of such. I do agree with the last sentence a great deal though.

      • Elayorx El

        I feel you on this one K, but truth be told, don’t even give them anymore of your precious God given energy. Let’s just concentrate on those of our own, who do truly love, and care about us, and eventually, we will be rewarded with that. It’s a challenge, but not even close to being impossible. Respect.

      • Celz

        Last I checked the Chrysler 300 was designed by a blackman and EVERY car company in the entire world. Literally everyone, has taken desgin cues from that car since its debut. Why do you think grilles, fenders, and rims got bigger on every model car in the early 2000s? Where do you think the chrome accents came from? Over 80% of music worldwide has African roots. Country and Rock are just as black Hip-Hop. So you are right you don’t owe us anything but our ancestors built this country with no current pay or residual pay that comes from owning land. So you have indirectly benefited from my ancestors free labor. So you should be grateful for that.

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        Hey and they are not worth a damn….. Amen brother!!

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        AND THOSE SAME DOORS THAT WERE OPEN TO YOUR FAMILY WERE CLOSED TO THE PEOPLE WHO SLAVED TO BUILD THIS NATION…SO WHILE YOUR FAMILY WAS THANKING GOD FOR YOUR JOB OR BUSINESS, IT WAS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY…SO IN ALL ACTUALITY, YOU OWE US MORE THAN YOU THINK YOU DO…

      • david3528

        That was actually a good point. No nation or empire in history was ever built without blood or slavery unfortunately.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        AND TO THIS DAY, EVERY SINGLE EMPIRE HAS CRUMBLED…

      • ColorBlindness

        White people don’t owe a damn thing. Slavery was horrible and should have never happened. I agree with you on that. However, the people that live now did none of this so they don’t owe anything. If we continue this topic of white people owe black people because of something that happened so long ago. We will NEVER move forward and learn to love an respect each other and show Color blindness.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        I’M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING, AND WHILE YOU’RE HOME, I WANT YOU TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT…

        IF YOUR FATHER STOLE A MAN’S WALLET, AND THEN STARTED PAYING HIS BILLS OUT OF IT…THEN ON HIS DEATH BED, GAVE THE WALLET TO YOU AND TOLD YOU HOW HE GOT IT…WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WOULD YOU CONTINUE TO PAY YOUR BILLS FROM THE WALLET OR GIVE IT BACK TO THE MAN IT BELONGED TO?

        THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT’S GOING ON TODAY…THE BIGGEST COMPANIES OF THIS WORLD WAS BUILT ON HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF FREE SLAVE LABOR…SLAVES WERE SOME OF THE FIRST STOCKS TRADED ON WALLSTREET….LEHMAN BROS OPENLY ADMITTED THIS…SO IF THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT THE WORLD ECONOMY, AND I DO MEAN THE WORLD ECONOMY, DON’T DESERVE ANYTHING FOR THEIR FREE LABOR, THEN WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT THE WORLD…EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD REVOLVES AROUND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE US STOCK MARKET. WE ARE TALKING TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEING MADE…AND THAT MARKET WAS BUILT OFF THE BACKS OF MY ANCESTORS…

      • $17637591

        Much…much respect to you Elder Rawchaa!!! Theses bloggers have absolutely no idea who you are but I am very familiar with GOCC and the LIGHT you guys bring to the unaware. Ive seen hours of your classes and I agree with %95 of your teachings. Does GOCC have anyone in the Detroit area that I can connect with directly?

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        THANKS FOR SUPPORTING THE WORK…AND MAKE SURE YOU SPREAD THE MESSAGE OF TRUTH TO THE PEOPLE, BUT I’M NOT ELDER RAWCHAA…I JUST SUPPORT HIS WORK…THE GOCC DOES HAVE PEOPLE IN DETROIT…JUST SEND AN EMAIL TO GATHERINGAS1@AOL(.)COM

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        Dude keep spreading that knowledge ….people can’t take the truth because they don’t know what truth is.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        THANK YOU BROTHER…YOU DO THE SAME…WE HAVE TO WAKE OUR PEOPLE UP…

      • Elayorx El

        I see you Elder. Keep shining the light.

      • Elayorx El

        Again, you have a partial point, but there is a lot of genetic predisposition no one ever talks about, and furthermore, if today’s generation is doing nothing about what happened then, on a predominant level, then does it really matter, at the end of the day? We can start by truly educating each other properly.

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        You didn’t have cointelpro redlining and specific Jim Crow laws exacted specifically towards your race either My ancestors built this shit for free lets not get on that bull shit.

  • Frank

    Mackledudes songs that I hear ain’t rap I want to hear. I’ll keep my J Cole, Em, Guilty Simpson, Soul Tapes, etc.. I can’t even remember but I know I got waaaay better shit in my collection than that.

  • Splatter

    on some real shit. Macklemore seems like a cool dude and has talent my only problems with him are his off beat flow and the fact that he’s with Ryan Lewis. the fact that we call his music pop besides the lyrics is because of the sound. Ryan Lewis makes his sound which is that gay pop shit. nobody ever talks about him much but id be willing to bet that dude probably the gay one. (not that i give a shit who’s gay) but the sound is what dictates the lyrics sometimes and his sound is totally POP.

  • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

    I love being a person of color you non colored people should love having barley any color and love your culture that rap shit is ours no matter how many white boys try rapping remember it came from us people of color.Brown & Black people Latino people put in work almost 40 years worth you cats trying to sneak in the back door. THANK YOU FOR LOVING OUR CULTURE.

    • ColorBlindness

      Ok, Your a racist. If that is how you feel then why do blacks and latinos insist on being included in on things are considered part of white peoples culture?
      Everyone should be able to be included in anything they want to be no matter their race. If they are good then what is the problem? Everything each race has fought for to be included in is because they want equality and for people to not see them for the color of their skin. GET OVER YOURSELF!!!

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        White people have culture hmmm… I did not know that thanks for informing me.

      • brotha_man

        their culture is stealing from everybody else’s and claiming it as there own.

      • Elayorx El

        Color, you have a point, but the meat of the issue is the predominant “white” race, is so ignorant to other peoples’ cultures, especially original people, that when the same cycle repeats itself over, and over, like we have here, these are always going to be the reactionary results. Respect.

    • wes mc

      Barley?? Also trying to prove yourself right in an argument by typing everything with caps lock on is some 3rd grade type of dumb shit.

  • fire lion

    The first mistake was acknowledging the Grammys. Who gives a f about them?
    The only thing that matters is the amount of heads bopping up and down to the music.

    Stop watching the grammys and start your own awards.

  • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

    The real shit is what you play in your car you can’t pull up in a 89 tricked out Monte Carlo bumping some god damn thrift shop. HaaaaHaa ha that shit is hilarious white people are phuckin nuts.

    • You need to go back to 88 or older on them Monte Carlo g body’s potna, you talking bout the round body style, I like the boxes…I get ya point tho bruh and you absolutely correct.

      • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

        I think you are right on that body style I love that shit. That box don’t play out.

      • I know I got an 87 luxury sport tucked in the garage, it’s on rick ross box chevy video on the bridge scene. It was night time but u get the picture…..

  • RobJMars

    That was actually an incredible article and point made by Yohance.

  • marvin simpson

    Well the Isley brothers got the lifetime achievement award but it wasn’t televised but the only two beatles got live air time soooo……

  • Allone

    Wacklemore is not talented at all he sucks as a rapper and he should be murdered in cold blood for pushing a gay agenda in a genre that firmly denounces homosexuality in all shapes and forms. NO GAYS in Hip Hop that includes Lil B and all these other degenerates of society. Wacklemore is ruining hip hop, he should go be a rockstar or a country singer because he’ll never be eminem, and although Kendrick’s album was over hyped trash with sub par production, I do wish he would have run.

    • Opposite Of Everyone

      Several of Hip-hop’s pioneers were gay.

      • moonfromsoufcack

        name 5….GO!

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        I think you’ll find one will suffice; namely Bambaata.

    • Razz

      You’re an idiot on a level few could ever hope to reach.

  • Guest

    For those pulling the race card, K. Dont won all kinds of BET awards, isnt that all that matters?

  • PrimeTime

    Kendrick won 7 awards at the BET awards, isnt that all that matters

    • guest123

      no one important shows up to the BET awards. lol gtfo

  • 420420

    GKMC was hands down best Album of the year i did like the heist but not as much as macklemores 2011 mixtape. “Otherside is the shit

  • To be honest I haven’t heard mackelmores album and might check for it but it’s highly doubtful, I do wanna say that if you break Kendrick’s cd down that s*** was pretty much excellent conceptually and musically. It truly was classic. No hate. To be honest I can give credit where credit is due if you are talented regardless of color. I like a couple of white rappers and all but I don’t really rock with them hard like that, I think my reasoning for this is because I have very little things in common with a white rapper. How can a white rapper truly relate to things going on in a black mans life through a culture that people of color created? Have they ever been racially profiled by cops? Have they been stereotyped before even opening their mouths? Were their ancestors sold as slaves? I could go on and on but you get my point, what the f*** can a white rapper tell me bout this life WE live. They can never relate to me about how hard it is out here for us brothas and that s*** real in my opinion. I welcome any challengers to this theory, if you prove me wrong I’ll acknowledge it. Hell, can a white person even be RACIALLY profiled by the police? Lmao, I mess with white rappers a lil but not too seriously in hip hop. Don’t hit me with the racist tag either the only hip hop white boys I used to like was the Beastie boys so miss me with the bs. I do think its funny tho how white boys used to hate rap when I was in school now they walking, talking, and acting like rappers in the 2000’s. Hip hop is powerful mayne. People always throw Eminem out there like he the great white hope also, he is very talented but it’s plenty niggaz that don’t get no shine that will put it on his ass.

    • Elayorx El

      Had to give it to you here. Great post!

  • Oh and I see allhiphop does have a person that can write an article, I ain’t mad that Macklemore won if his music is good. Never heard one song from bruh but I see a lot of you have by the comments. No one says his music was bad so what’s the fuss about? Who watches the Grammys anyway for hip hop , it’s a white folks show so why r we surprised?

  • Trujudah

    cool coommets… but kcuf the grammys. why are we expecting them to respect or even recognize our culture??? these awards dont mean anything at all. and if we do care we should create our own awards and actually support them. period.

  • Live Well

    Where was all this “Macklemore ain’t Hip Hop” talk when he was on the XXL Freshman cover? Now he should retire, why, because he won a Grammy? FOH. He ain’t the first overrated rapper to blow commercially. Ever heard of Drake?

  • AK

    They should bring back the Source Awards

  • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

    Kendrick Lamar to me is some what of a contrast between Outkast & Erykah Badu. I mean I was losing faith in hip hop until this guy came along. INCREDIBLY CREATIVE…..BIG ups Kendrick. Who needs a Grammy when you have a true following and you can’t buy that..

  • itZ Tamar

    I am so glad macklemore won . Though I am black I would rather my child listen to a white rapper who is creative with his rap rather than a black rapper whos music is filled with such hate and filthy lyrics. Every line they rap is plagued with the bword, nword and every cussword in the book.. What was so funny and it shows u just how stupid black rappers are is that they weren’t even invited to the grammys but all of them took post outside “the mansion” and partied their butts off. #just stupid. Rather than get themselves together they took post outside of an event and partied to an event they weren’t invited to..I look at black rappers with disgust

    • Intelligenthoodlum Hoodlum

      You are a Uncle Tom ass nigga.

    • Some black rappers don’t use profane language or filthy lyrics, some black rappers refuse to use the n word in their rhymes. You said a black rapper meaning all black rappers, which I just proved to be false. I’m not going to name names I just hope that you research those guys first before you send your kid to white rapper academy, you may be surprised my Afro American brother…lmao I kinda feel the second part of your post though, I didn’t watch the grammy’s so I don’t know why they would attend an event that shows them no respect either. I know I wouldn’t be shucking and jivin outside of their award show

    • brotha_man

      i take it u didnt listen to a single song off good kid…
      you the don lemon type.

    • EniggaMA

      f@#k you n@#$a b#$%h

    • Hamze Ahmed

      Ummmmmm I’m guessing you never heard Eminem he is creative but he always cussing and shit taking about he gone rape his mom and kill his wife. Not all white rappers are polite and all black are violent. By the way GKMC was a very unique and good album ay better than Macklemores pop album.

  • Eric Nomiddlename Wilson

    Let’s set a few things straight ( based on some of the ill-informed comments). “Italian” leather and silk is a farce. Gators and silk are not indigenous to Italy. Those materials are imported from AFRICA. Secondly, the only way racism is true is when one person or group of persons hold power over another and CAN and WILL use that power to keep a person(s) from another race down. Therefore, blacks cannot be racist being we don’t own anything, including the abundance of gold and diamonds in AFRICA and we don’t make the rules/laws governing this world. That (RACISM) is a white thing.

  • while macklemore is creative so is k.dot and i think he definitely deserved to win. cant believe rap is being stolen from us too.

  • regal84

    All I knw is Kanye is lookgin like a prophet right now…When he did a rant a couple of weeks ago stating he never won a Grammy against a white artist, I thought it was Kanye bein Kanye…Now it all makes sense…

  • SpazMataz

    Hip hop fans are both racist and homophobic. S*uck it.

  • VentKing11

    Since when did we as hip-hop fans care so much about their trophy? There was a time where we protested against this establishment and now some cry when we don’t get their love? I don’t need or care what some un-hiphop-educated grammy voter thinks is the best hip hop out there. I like them not knowing. Only the chosen few should know what it is and only the chosen do. I didn’t need an grammy to tell me “It Takes A Nation of Millions…” was one of the best LPs, not just hip hop, but best LPs ever or that “Paid in Full” was the ish. I didn’t need them to tell me LL, N.W.A., Cube, Wu-Tang, Nas, Pac, or Biggie was the illest ish I evr heard back then and I don’t need them to tell me Jay-Z, Drake, Ye, or K. Dot is the ish now. Matter of fact, I miss the days when the establishment refused 2 acknowledge hip-hop with their awards and said we were not going to last, it made us what we were. A force against the system that didn’t luv us ala Drake. So while he may hv swung and missed on some things, my man Flavor Flav said it best:

    “Who gives a f#$% about a $%# dam grammy!” As long as we know…WE KNOW.

  • Macklemore’s quality did this nigga just say that? Macklemore’s album has like 10 hit records on it on steady rotation which all kinds of people can relate too.

  • im sorry i cant stand lookin at this queers face

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  • RJ

    EVERYTHING is about race nowadays. Get over it, oh archaic ones. Your ruining the internet

  • Elayorx El

    Very enlightening content, both from the article, and the comments. Like many echo here, why are the Grammys even important anymore, especially considering the track record they have had regarding original music. We all know it’s political, and is about who you know, which is why almost everyone, including Macklemore knew he would be taking that award home. It is why those that should have won in the past, did not, and will be the same reason why this will continue to happen in the future. It is why that artist “Lorde”, I think, just got on the scene, and took home awards. It is all preconceived, and mostly fake, and until we start realizing this, and wake the fluk up, we’ll always be considered “beneath”, “minor”, “less than”, and all of those other colorful sounding put downs regarding us.(which is weird, because why would you take from something “sub-human”) It’s like being here for eons, following around, and wanting to be like something that has only been here for 5 minutes. It would be nice to be fairly included, but c’mon now, we know the game. Say hello to the resurrection, of Reconstruction.

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  • Montezuma1

    Who is hip hop? Definitely not a Macklemore fan but he was smart. He had the “right” message in his music and got rewarded. It’s their awards and they can give it to whom they please for whatever reason they want. Kendrick is solid but lets be honest could Kendrick have competed in the 90’s? No. Kendrick is riding the wave of the old “West Coast” “Dr Dre” hype and Macklemore is riding the wave of the new “gay is cool” hype. None of this is about music. The minute people focus on anything other than your music your music loses credibility. What we have today are artists who solicit fans through a plethora of gimmicks; Regional support, gender support, racial support, gay support, etc. Just making a hot record seems to be off the table. And what’s a hot record? One the people naturally gravitate to without feeling obligated for non musical reasons. This entire industry has turned to shyt.

    • hoeyuno

      I have a hard time seeing the super amazing rapper ppls try to make out of Kendrick. no doubt the boi is talented but he’s not a NAS or a hov for that matter..but It is all opinion though and taste….

  • Embassy

    If Kendrick had a track about culturally embracing homosexuals then he would have won. Too many people in the music industry were waiting for a track like Same Love to hit big, so when it happened of course they will take their chance to reward it.

    • Phatt Killah

      THIS makes sense

  • regla987

    HAHA! I love reading these posts about “blacks cant be racists”…”whites steal everyone else culture”…as usual the hypocrisy coming from many posters is so telling of the level of ignorance. Rap in and of itself is a rip-off and most of the “c-rap” that is out there isn’t worth mentioning. Bring back the Source Awards?? Why, so more of the rap cultures proclivities can be televised and shown to millions for the degenerate behavior it glorifies? Keep hating on this guy because hes white while crying about culture theft..keep crying and as usual the rest of the world will move ahead without you…

  • steve jobs ghost

    Think different! Not winning a grammy is like a badge of honor for a rapper. Think of all the good company kendrick lamar has joined…if I was any rapper worth listining to and was rejected by the grammys I would feel I’ve done my job. Rappers should start complaining when they are considered. Make it a bad thing and make sure people know if you are nominated then your work is probably sub standard.

  • btp248

    I think it’s kind of backwards to say that the artists being white was in no way the reason people were upset that they won, and then turn around and say that being white might have been one of the reasons they won in the first place. (When you said voters may have voted for who most resembled what they saw when they looked in the mirror). If you imply they won simply because they were white (Which you did) then their being white is an inherent part of why some people are upset that they won. You can’t have it both ways. Not to detract from the meat of your article but I think that deserves to be pointed out.

  • WhiteBlack

    they just legalized gay marriage, dude made a song called “same love” “coincidentally” before that even happened officially..of course there’s inside industry politics..wtf else would it be smh

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  • Andrew Stephens

    IMO, this article is almost demanding that Kendrick win the award, not disputing Macklemore’s art. It’s almost like the author is a Lamar fan and salty over the fact that many of us Hip Hopper don’t like him at all ever since he compared himself to Pac. Personally I couldn’t tell you a single Lamar track off the top and have tried to appreciate him since his leaks several years ago.

  • Andrew Stephens

    And also, the attempt to cover the racist comments in this article were futile…it is quite apparent that the author is a bigot.

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  • Ripshot de la Culebra

    The only reason Macklemore won is because of his love for gay men.

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