damn first ,I doubt jay knew about this

5 bill, that's crazy!  And what kind of research do you have to do in order to find out someone is linked to the slave trade?

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this is hilarious to me. I don't think it'll hold an ounce of water in court but it's interesting. But shit, if they wanna talk about some reparations, fuck 5 Billion, how about 50 trillion. That's about what we're owed anyway. That'd work out to about 100k per black person.

check this out,

http://j-full.com/2007/10/23/cut-the-checkreparations-affirmative-action-and-other-things.aspx

More on Jay-Z here:

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and

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oops i meant about 500k/person

5 billion!!!!

this is Bullshit. Every company that was out back then benefitted from the slave trade. In fact, all white people and all of their descendants bbenefitted off of the trade.  Companies you support daily benefitted on the trade. why is it an issue now when they want to name the arena after barclays

Nigga please!!!! The judge should have Kool herc checked by a doctor than then thrown out of court head first for trying to pull this shit.

Niggas is wylin! LMAO!! why does Kool Herc and these other niggas think they're entitled to the $5 billion???? damn and I thought Peedi Crakk's attacks on Jay were pathetic lol.

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This has to be one of the DUMBEST lawsuits ever. We all know it ain't gonna hold up in court, but let me play devil's advocate for a second. If Kool Herc DID win the lawsuit, is he gonna give that money back to the descendents of the people who were allegedly enslaved?? Since they have research claiming that the bank used slaves SURELY they can find the descendents of those slaves right? Just some food for thought ya'll...

Besides, reparations wouldn't solve nothing anyways. Give every black person or family in America 500K and then what?? Like that's gonna REALLY solve all our problems...

slavery was horrible. I just finished Frederick Douglass' Autobiography. Makes you realize how hard they worked.

LET THAT BITCH BREATHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Counting other peoples riches and hating on them = not Kool!!!!

WOW i don't even have anything to say

It's sad to say, but we're all benificaries of the slave trade. This whole country was started on the backs of slaves. Although I'm not happy about slavery or the pain caused. I'm happy to be here in the good ole US of A. Something bout hot ass Africa that don't look appealing to me...maybe I'll visit one day and it'll change my perspective.

this is some bullshit, hes waisting his money on legal fees because it wont hold weight.  Jay is prob laughing his ass off.

wow....this is an exclusive "nigga please" moment...hip hop at its finest....I don't know what's crazier...the 5 billion lawsuit or the slave trade accusation....I mean damn...I know about the 40 acres and a mule...but 5 million dollars and a jackass...get it right people...get it right

amazing. wtf is this?

Reparations are long over due but damn... Herc is trippin. That attack should be launched somewhere else.

I feel what Kool Herc is doing but on the real to real just like articledon said, may companies even til this day is still profiting from slavery. I don't know if money is the way to go, because when u think about it what would people do with 500K to each household. now judging how black people are when they get they tax return i guarantee u the money will be squandered faster than they got it. there should be a NATIONAL ACCOUNT, set up to help "PEOPLE OF COLOR" acquire education, shelter, food, clothing, & transportation. The people running it shouldn't be the ones benefiting most from it, it should be the family. someone should assess "EVERY DAMN HOOD or BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD" and come up with estimates on how much it would cost to get the community up to standards. Things can be done with the money but if the wrong or greedy person is running it, they'll only pocket the money for themselves.

@ KST2G

...????

500K wont solve any of ur problems....

u talkin straight out ur ass.... lol..

student loans...

mortgages...

credit cards...

car notes...

bank loans...

and to all those who believe that every black person is just going to blow they $$ like its nothing is ignorant as hell...

thats a weak ass way to think.

5Billion-kajillion-fafillion dollars!!! Mwaahahahaha!!! lmao dat nigga aint gettin' shit lol

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@ c_a_k

I agree with some of what you're saying. It's like Cedric said in Barbershop, if black folk get reparations, Cadillac gonna be the #1 dealership in America. That and Jacob the Jewler is gonna become a bazillionaire.

I don't think that there "should" be anything done. The past is the past for real. That's like you paying someone's family back for some money that your great grandfather borrowed from them like 120 years ago. Black people need to stop looking for the eazy way out and stop blaming the world and society for all of our problems.

...

I'm telling y'all that you better go back and rethink the negative shit that you saying about Kool Herc..Sit down and think about it on a larger scale..I've been saying the same thing for months and niggaz was acting like a nigga was way off base..If a regular nigga like me saw this shit and a nigga is actually suing them because of it it's bigger than what's on the surface..They said they are in the business of enslaving black people and you know most people that did it on a larger scale back in the dayz did it the through psychological warfare and their main purpose for doing it was to control the money..I never thought i'd ever see it happen like this but i'm running with Kool Herc..Y'all niggaz better understand Jay ain't no different than nobody else..He getting money but at what cost..There's no morals or loyalty in that cat and if y'all think he give a fuck about y'all then you're sadly mistaken..Check this out..Every since been and Pac died Jay takes over and whatever he tells us to drink(armadale, grey goose, belvedere, cristal),  drive, wear (clothing, cologne) and everything else we do it..We are the number 1 consumers and are among the poorest of ethnic groups..How is that? That's why they allow drugs to come in the way they do..Because we are going to sell they shit and let them lock us up and sell our labor in jail..They've always used pawns to do their dirty work..Don't be so naive..It's always been niggaz put in certain positions to direct us while getting their strings pulled by them crackas..I ain't saying I know 100% that's it's true but don't be so quick to brush it off..It's a reason he got rid of his homebwoyz that helped him build the Roc and a lot of other people..It takes a lot of money to make a nigga that got a few 100 million to just flip like that..The majority of the black people in America don't know MLK Jr. was a pawn to a certain extent..That information J. Edgar Hoover had on him wasn't kept a secret for so long for nothing..It's a reason it took damn near 40 years for all them pictures with him and them white women to come out..We let them build our leaders like Jesse Jackson and he was connected to MLK Jr..What is that nigga really fighting for? He carefully picks and chooses his battles..Like someone is directing him..Y'all niggaz better stop listening to so much rap and pick up a book and pay attention to these "so called" leaders actions..Just because Jay is an artist don't mean it's a reason to discredit his influence..Y'all can think it's by accident that him and Bob Johnson in the same positions after giving something important up and after they did their net worth increased substantially within a year to a year and a half..Both sold out for the money, both have NBA teams, both are responsible in their own way for the destruction of the youth..Listen to how Jay changed the game with the materialism shit..He was the frontrunner in it no matter how you want to look at it..Bob Johnson for BET period..He knew what was going to happen after he sold it and he had control for awhile after himself..Stop acting like 2 plus 2 don't equal 4 because you like some of these entertainers...If you think about shit things add up..

@c_gutta

so lets say you pay off your student loans, mortgages, credit cards, car notes and bank loans... Then what? You expect to live a life of peace and tranquility surrounded by green grass and daffidils or something? If you think money solves problems then you must not have ever made some...

I see they updated the article. So it wasn't Kool Herc after all.

I didn't think Kool Herc would be involved in a publicity stunt like that...good to see he isn't


http://thehiphopnerd.blogspot.com/

DID ANYBODY REALLY READ THIS ARTICLE? IT'S NOT KOOL HERC SUING JAY. THAT WAS A MISTAKE, ITS THE ACTIVIST CLIVE CAMPBELL FROM BK. DIFFERENT GUY.
But this lawsuit is a sad attempt at reparations. I really do think that Blacks should not trade equality for the cheddar. Imagine how whites will act when they finally think that the pain of slavery is no longer an issue, when they feel its resolved cuz yall got what all wanted (money) how will whitey act then? If you shitted on while they know this is over their head, what's gonna happen when they are excused and the slate wiped clean? Equality and eradication of racism is a better way to resolve this cuz Blacks need respect more than money. Money comes respect can last so much longer.

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WTF???
Slave trade... and Jay-Z?
Last time I checked Jay Z wasnt a slaveowner, nor was anybody in his family.... so if you gonna sue for reparations, sue somebody who's relatives actually owned slaves.

wow. i wonder if Clive will buy land with that 5 bil and gimmemy 40 acres

this is nuts....next

I think that's a good idea for him to sue Jay. Jay got money. Life is about survival. If that man gets nothing, then he back were he started, If he get $1,000 He came up. I hope he can sneak a couple hunid thou from Jigga. Im tryna to sue niggas for they mistakes, that's a career i want to look into, especially if this nigga win. I think he got the right idea. Just make up some bullshit and take him to court..That's American like the word nigga.

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kreem said:
really do think that Blacks should not trade equality for the cheddar. Imagine how whites will act when they finally think that the pain of slavery is no longer an issue, when they feel its resolved cuz yall got what all wanted (money) how will whitey act then?




if u still even think about slavery u wack. Fuck them old niggas we don't owe they ass shit. They was slaves cause they was dumb. u can look at it however u want. We not slaves cause we not THAT dumb (niggas ain't smart yet, but they not that dumb). Yeah Yeah the civil right movement, blah blah blah. If u broke in America at this point in time U DON'T DESERVE TO MAKE IT. Ya'll niggas need to go to the favelas (slums for u dumb niggas) in Brazil. Thats poor. If u stop playin the victim u might get some where, but black people don't owe black people shit.

kreem said:
really do think that Blacks should not trade equality for the cheddar. Imagine how whites will act when they finally think that the pain of slavery is no longer an issue, when they feel its resolved cuz yall got what all wanted (money) how will whitey act then?




if u still even think about slavery u wack. Fuck them old niggas we don't owe they ass shit. They was slaves cause they was dumb. u can look at it however u want. We not slaves cause we not THAT dumb (niggas ain't smart yet, but they not that dumb). Yeah Yeah the civil right movement, blah blah blah. If u broke in America at this point in time U DON'T DESERVE TO MAKE IT. Ya'll niggas need to go to the favelas (slums for u dumb niggas) in Brazil. Thats poor. If u stop playin the victim u might get some where, but black people don't owe black people shit.

it specifically says...

"This story originally reported that the Clive Campbell who filed the lawsuit was the real name of DJ Kool Herc, a found of Hip-Hop," The Observer noted. "In fact, it is a DIFFERENT Clive Campbell. Mr Campbell is a Brooklyn-based activist."

focus people. damn. lol.

umm...did you guys read the article......it was not kool herc, but someone with the same name....

Jay is an innocent victim in this... it's like Don Imus and Hip Hop. There is no relation. Don Imus fucked up and should have suffered the consequences solo just as Bruce Ratner and Barclays bank should be held accountable. If Jigga new his partners profitted from slavery, he should have chose better business partners. He shouldn't be held responsible.

"They say if you wanna hide something from a 'nigga'...put it in a book."

...the sad part is, EVEN if they read it they still won't comprehend."

The Observer noted. "In fact, it is a different Clive Campbell. Mr Campbell is a Brooklyn-based activist."

some of y'all, my BLACK PEOPLE! need to take time a read.  I mean READ more literature other than Allhiphop.com (period)  The comments y'all postin iz nutz!"

wtf?

Curry Media said:
umm...did you guys read the article......it was not kool herc, but someone with the same name....
February 25, 2008 4:45 PM

EXACTLY!

Real talk @ Capital Hill...if he wants to get $5 billion for some outrageous case, gimme mine and his his, and hers hers

That's what's wrong with black folks, read the damn article. It's a different Clive Campbell.

some of ya'll need to read the whole article......IT'S NOT KOOL HERC PEOPLE....!!!!!  *sigh* the benefits of reading & comprehension.....

#1: the dude filing the suit is NOT kool herc folks...the body of the article explains the name issue...

#2: Like ya'll, i think $5B is quite a bit of money, but on the real if that bank had anything to do with the slave-trade in Africa & America then there may be some merit for the lawsuit.......

#3: You gotta watch who u gettin' in bed with.....maybe even more-so when u gotz several M's in the bank (Shawn) and if he slipped up and got hooked in with some WRONG folks, then expect to pay and expect somebody out there to be looking for that doe.....

#4: the "Clive" who's bringing this lawsuit up must have done his/her homework cause it sounds like all parties need to pull-back and re-evaluate....

#5: Even with jay being the "proverbial" innocent victim he still is gonna be named as a party in the suit and subject to pay if this goes further....

It's a shame Jay's gotten himself wrapped up in something like this (if it's really true), but if this bank profited from the African Slave trade, then fu*k'em and let'em pay the maximum penalty..!!!  

.....not jay, but the banks should pay the maximum penalty...just to clarify before one of ya'll come screwed at me....LOL

Hahahahha! All you niggas are so quick to jump to conclusions! I guess every one wants to be first. SMH

But for real, if the Bank had somethin to do with the slave trade, and Jay knew about it, I could see merit for this... I just doubt Jigga knew. You don't know everything about everybody you do business with, ya know?

Y START HERE. ALL THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, USA WOULD BE A GREAT START. THEY BEEN DOING IT AND DID IT AGAIN AFTER KATRINA.

c_a_k said:
I feel what Kool Herc is doing

Read the entire article sweetheart, it wasn't Kool Herc.

Sounds like Hov got himself into some "Inside Man" type ish. The lawsuit will be dismissed though, 5 billion? Wow. Brooklyn residents may be upset that homes will be razed as a result of the develoment, this may be an effort to slander Hov in return.

@Kreem said:
DID ANYBODY REALLY READ THIS ARTICLE? IT'S NOT KOOL HERC SUING JAY. THAT WAS A MISTAKE, ITS THE ACTIVIST CLIVE CAMPBELL FROM BK.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

BLACK FOLKS DID. NIGGAZ DIDN'T. THEY NEVER DO. LMAO

damn jay-z name gets involved in everybody's problems
http://www.myspace.com/jdubbthayounghectic  

WTF???

ITS NOT KOOL HERC.

@gawgabwoy

read this lemme know what you think

http://j-full.com/2007/10/23/cut-the-checkreparations-affirmative-action-and-other-things.aspx


The reason I don't think this lawsuit would hold up in court is because every corporation, financial institution damn near could be sued for the very same reason. I think suing Barclays is just the tip of a ginormous ass iceberg

but fuck barclays, they got a credit card on my credit report and they won't take that shit off. I ain't ever seen the card or used the card in my life lol

But on some real shit, if Clive wins the lawsuit, he needs to share that with the people, don't pull a sharpton and pocket it

wtf? niggaz be suing just to try to get some kind of money


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LMAO!!! kool herc is not suing...its sumbody else with the same name. bein a dumbass aint where its at... Cut that shit out

Lol, this is so funny. First off, KOOL HERC is not the person behind the lawsuit just as others have clearly stated. You guys need to re-read the article. Secondly, if this true than why not sue every other company and organization that has either enslaved or opressed africans. Hell, if you go back and research your ancestors you may even find that you are kin to some slave owners who have multi-million dollar businesses so get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. If you gonna sue one then sue all, thats all I am saying. A man cant even make a living for himself these days without some hater coming behind him trying to get a piece of his/her pie. Aslso what would this Cambell nigga or the Defense League the beneficiary of reparations from any such lawsuit???

@ aaxnapalm1

I co-sign everything said and I want to go a little further in depth about the kids with rich parents getting in off donations...What it is they have a point system set up at all schools so that's their way of getting around affirmative action..I read an article on it a few years back and it spoke of how the alumni kids get more points than affirmative action recepient would..They actually have quite a few different things that combine to give them more points if their parents are alumni and most black people couldn't get into them schools back in the day..All them white people with money ain't going to allow their kids to be cheated (in their eyes) to go to the school that they want to go to..It's just like when we won the separate but equal case and were allowed to go to the same public schools..Next comes zoning, which allow people with more to pay more taxes and that pays for better schools..It's crazy how they find a way  to hold us back while acting like they are evening out the playing field but it's just a diversion..It's like they choking us with one hand on our neck and telling us that they are going to take it off but then sliding the other hand over because we ain't paying attention on a larger scale..

@gawgabwoy

yea man, that's what i feel is gonna happen with reparations if we were to ever get them. they'd just figure out a loophole to fuck us with. but we'd take our money and be happy as hell in the meantime

see man,  I told you I got our back, ain't gonna be no corporate selling out over here my dude

j-full.com

For all you people who read the article LATE allhiphop.com originally was reported that the person suing was Kool Herc. They updated the article when they found out the error. That's the very definition of the word "update" you dumb fucks.

@ KST2G

smh...

its like u feel that u the only black man that will have enough sense to save ur money....

500K will go a long way..

u know how many mothers can put their children through school...

20k can change ppl's lives....

to have no faith in ur own ppl is weak...

@gawgaboy - what up b, i see you droppin' gems as usual...

IMO, the Jay-Z lawsuit is a sham, why is he named so prominently and not Bruce Ratner... Jay is only a minority owner like 5% or less so really his portion of the pie is nominal at best, in fact when these kind of deals are put together they need minority ownership to get the deals passed and to keep the negroes all happy on the plantation because we see one of us making it a lil' bit.

This suit is frivolous and won't last because for one they need a major Civil Rights attorney, you better believe Jay, Ratner and his boys got a click of Jews who can eat the case, whole, one bite!

As for reparations... kudos to the comments of those who have already said it but... when the kinfolks get them checks the flea market, Nike (Air Jordans), TV Johnny The Jeweler (grills & piece/chain) and all of the malls are gone make a grip!  I was in New Orleans 2 mths. ago and I was rapping with a dude I know (white cat) who owns a car shop that sells radio equipment (woofers, amps & tv's)... well before Katrina his best year in business was 750,000 in gross sales... in the year after Katrina he DOUBLED HIS BEST YEAR EVER WITH $1.5 MILLION DOLLARS IN SALES!!!! - Now mind you, this is during the 12 mths right after Katrina when the citys' population is still prolly 50-60% of what it was before Katrina and for those who were receiving the FEMA checks, these people were and still are living in trailers...but they whips got brand new banging systems and they skatin on 24's...

as a black person, I felt stupid culturally as he told me this because his shop is in the hood and it wasn't anyone but the kinfolk spending their FEMA checks there!

Sadly as a whole, I find it hard to believe that reparations would be any different! Lastly, ole dubbya (George Bush) is giving our economy a shot of consumer adrenaline with everyone getting a $500-$1200 check so the pop-quiz is what are you going to do with your check when you get it... are you gonna do what the plantation owners hope you do which is go out and spend it all at the mall or will you do something smart with it...

Personally, wifey and I will split ours into thirds to be spent as follows: 1/3 goes to my 2 yr. old seeds college/wealth account where we will pick him up a few shares of Pfizer, Toyota & Apple, 1/3 goes into our emergency fund and 1/3 will be spent at the mall... most likely an outfit for my wife as I don't there will really be enough left for both of us...

Holla at yall...

Gawgaboy, get at me homie!

Oh, that J-full.com article was a good read!

5 billion???
slave trade???
jay-z?????WTF

@gawgaboy

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LOL, some of you guys here need to go back to elementary school.
Thie is about Clive Campbell from B to tha K not the one from the BX. But the ppl at Observer, also don't seem to be able to read right.
Damn. ppl are stupid sometimes.

Letme get dis right, coz I dont quite understand fully, He iz suing Barclays Bank coz they had connections to the slave trade ages ago??? And Jay jst happens 2 ov done a deal with Barclays Bank???

Is the guy gonna sue people who have A bank account with Barclays Bank aswel???

I hope the guy gives the BILLIONS to the community then, and not pocket it!!! Think ov the good that money can do in Africa!!! And ghettos!!!

a lot of people dont want reparations because they like to complain.  once you get reparations you surrender that right and you like to whine and bitch and blame others instead of getting up getting out and getting it. If i was power i'd pay up and then not listen to anything anymore

 
grouchy greg said:
slavery was horrible. I just finished Frederick Douglass' Autobiography. Makes you realize how hard they worked.

don't have to read a whole book to realize that. not trynna diss either...

if yall would READ the article...ud see that Kook Herc has nothing to do with this..but the case is bullshit...mufuckas will go to all extremes for the dollar

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IT IS NOT KOOL HERC DOING THIS READ IT AGAIN

The reason Jay-Z name is being associated all over this lawsuit
Is because when you are a rapper and representative of the people you should now better and do research before you go in to business with the Pure Bred Banking Families.

JayZ and the crazy Illuminati You Tube video's make some sense now that this story was published.

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When can people stop claiming that slavery is why their lives are bad.  It's a fact most people who win the lottery file bankruptcy.  You need to do what you do to get where you're going.  If all you do is cry social ills you'll never be anything.  Stop having babies out of wedlock.  Finish school.  Those who said they have to put food on the table get the fuck out.  I fended for myself since i was 15.  I worked went to school got a degree bought a house & never asked for a handout or stood on a corner.  Did I hustle.  Hell yeah.  In the classroom, teacher gives me a C I tell them why it's an A.  I get a B.  In the workplace.  I did my job.  I sold more of my weight than anyone else & got promotions without having to look over my back.

Think about it.  1/2 of us aren't children of slaves anyway.  We got as much slave master in us as slave.  Think about it.

@ c_gutta1 said:

I never said that. Money comes and goes my friend. What I'm saying is that giving black people money won't change shit about the world. We're STILL gonna be treated second class. Racism will STILL exist. Racial profiling will STILL exist. Think outside of the box man. What you fail to see is that no matter how much money we get it won't solve our problems.

@ Occasio

co-sign. I think you put the smartest post on here that I've ever seen.

Ok, all y'all niggaz that's commenting on the people getting mixed up is ignorant..Is that what the topic is really about? So what it's not Kool Herc..Who really gives a fuck..The topic is more important than who started the lawsuit..

@ Occasio

Cuz I think you need to find out what psychological warfare is and find out how it have been used against us and still is..Don't get too excited because a few black people getting money..The rest of us are getting hush money..

Understand this, we can't fix a problem if we aren't willing to acknowledge it exists..Think about what you said and then think about a house nigga..I ain't talking about in all aspects but in their way of thinking..The field niggaz are on some fuck this shit the way they treating us still ain't right..The field nigga talks as if it's not that bad..You can have what I have if you do as master wants you to..All of us don't have in it us to hold back from speaking our mind when we are continually treated unfairly..I ain't saying don't do anything productive because shit is messed up but if you think you are set and working for somebody else then you lost already..Our main problem is we don't have enough black business owners who are capable of hiring a lot of us..Why?  Because our people rather spend their money on making themselves more money with white folks like Jay instead of trying to come back and build from within like every other ethnic group in America..

@ Occasio

I meant the house nigga talks as if it's not that bad..One other thing..If we ain't selling out to make money with the whites we spending all our money with them instead of with our own people as well..

@ Occasio

smh @ that ignorant statement u made...

"Think about it.  1/2 of us aren't children of slaves anyway.  We got as much slave master in us as slave.  Think about it."

so b/c the slave women were raped by white men... we shouldnt acknowledge that slavery has and still affects us...

just that alone should fuck w/ur mind...

not knowing who or where u came from doesnt affect you???

i pray for u brother.

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CONTRADICTIONS GALORE! LMAO

I would really like u people 2 read...it's not Kool Herc...right above here says:
"This story originally reported that the Clive Campbell who filed the lawsuit was the real name of DJ Kool Herc, a found of Hip-Hop," The Observer noted. "In fact, it is a different Clive Campbell. Mr Campbell is a Brooklyn-based activist."

sigh...