While Obama and McCain do their thing in the coming months, California-bred combo DJ Muggs and Planet Asia have their own campaigning to do. The latest project matching Muggs with another underground giant for a full-length LP, Pain Language, promises to be the unorthodox and avant-garde album their respective fans will be expecting.Its hard to imagine how these two found time to actually sit down in the studio for any consecutive period of time in the past year. Planet Asia stayed busy touring extensively overseas and at home while Muggs was working on a seemingly infinite number of projects, from a new Cypress Hill album to scoring the latest Keanu Reeves film Street Kings. No matter, the pair linked up in the lab for roughly 35 days this past year, in which time they knocked out over 25 tracks, citing undeniable chemistry and a cohesive artistic vision as driving forces behind the project.AllHipHop can certainly vouch for the duos chemistry, as the recent three-way conversation contained more than a few instances of one artist finishing a thought for the other and minimal interruption on our behalf.AllHipHop.com: With an album pairing an MC and producer like this there are always expectations. Did you guys ever think about the expectations your fans might have?DJ Muggs: Those thoughts crossed my mind, and I know Asia works hard. Hes constantly touring, constantly on the grind, popping up at peoples shows. I liked his work ethic and the way he grinds, so I figured its worth me putting my time and energy in because theres going to be somebody on the other [end] who is going to put that time and energy into this project. Its still an underground record so its going to be interesting to see what people think now. I worked on the damn record, I know what I think. I like it. What do yall think?AllHipHop.com: Was there a point where you both looked at each other and just knew it was going to be a good partnership?DJ Muggs: The kind of music Asia likes and the kind of music I like and the kind of project we both wanted to do, we were in the same place at that time. We recorded the first few songs and I knew it was going to be banging, it just made me wish we could have got it done quicker.Planet Asia: We got the same taste buds man. Thats what made it easier, so we could pick what we wanted. It wasnt like he would have the track already done in the studio, thats boring. We would find a loop and it would be like a skeleton. I would rhyme over it, and then he would do what he do to it.DJ Muggs: We just vibed and collaborated and made a record like a group. We thought about where we were going to start each day and went from there. I like this kick and snare, lets start building. Hed start writing and Id start building.AllHipHop.com: Its obvious the last two Muggs projects with GZA (Grandmasters) and Sick Jacken (Legend of the Mask and the Assassin) were done in that manner. Asia you must have been hyped to know you were getting on board something like that.Planet Asia: Oh yeah, cause Jack was finishing up that album when I had just started. I got a chance to hear what he was doing and I was like, Whoa, this is right up my alley. So I was already excited just off of that album to do this, and the GZA album of course. We all got that album. I knew Muggs was making the kind of music Ive been trying to find, and its rare that you can get that. A lot of dudes right now be doing too much to the beat, over-producing the joint to where it aint leaving no room for the MC. He makes his beats for an MC to rhyme to, not just to showcase the track.DJ Muggs: It always about the beat or the rap man, its about the song. Sometimes more is less. Sometimes this beat calls for less, but sometimes it calls for layers.Planet Asia: A song like 9mm is one of the ones that has a lot to it, but it fit well.DJ Muggs: As a producer youve got to know when to leave it alone and know its done. You can also do something else, and if I wanted to I could work on the project for the next five years. That comes down to instincts, because you cant read about them or learn them. Youre born with instincts so you can say, Alright its done and it sounds right. This one needs to be simple and this one is complicated. DJ Muggs vs Planet Asia 9mm VideoAllHipHop.com: Asia you know what its like to sit around on a major label waiting your turn. Is it sweet to be able to put out material on the timeline you want, the way you want?Planet Asia: Its a blessing to be able to have a person whos sold the amount of records that hes sold, and to have a f**k you attitude. Most people that have platinum plaques have a gay attitude when it comes to the music, like theyre still trying to impress the radio and s**t. Im like, Yo, you already made your mark. You dont really have nothing to prove, just be fresh now. Youve done the songs with Pearl Jam and U2, now its time to come back to basics. A lot of dudes is scared to f**k with the raw s**t man.DJ Muggs: And with the radio youll get fly-by-night Top 40 fans that will buy your song for that reason, but I want supporters. I want motherf**kers that like the kind of art that you do and the portraits you paint, and around the world theyll support you and what you do.Planet Asia: I heard an interesting thing that Skillz had said. He said that if Biggie was alive right now as we speak, and if Puffy was at the level he was already at right now, Biggie would not be able to get put on. Youve got to think about it. Imagine if you see Biggie in a reality TV show like we seen with Making The Band. We wouldnt have taken Biggie seriously like how we take Biggie [now], right? It could be a Biggie right around Puff all the time, but because of the level hes playing on hes not on the foundation and hes not going to be able to find another Biggie. And theres a lot of Biggies right around him. So for [Muggs] to have had that success and still f**k with a cat like me thats not necessarily on the big radar scale, its dope he sees me for that talent.DJ Muggs: Asia has good energy man, its inspiring. In the studio hes still hungry, he still loves the s**t. He works, does interviews, will do 100 shows a year, thats inspiring to me. I dont get inspired much anymore, know what I mean? So to be around energy like that makes me want to work on music. I could go in there and make a f**kin’ thousand beats, but then what? Its almost like a body with no soul and no heart.Planet Asia: Not only that, hes Muggs from Cypress Hill! He could just go and f**k with a known cat and, say F**k the underground s**t. He could move to Miami and just f**k with the cats over there, or go over wherever. Nah, hes f**king with what he thinks is hot, not what everybody else thinks is hot. Thats what its about, just staying true to yourself. Not staying true to the game, cause I dont know what that means. Its staying true to your roots, and our roots is just raw music. And Im not f**king with him just because hes Muggs. I know a lot of producers, a lot of dudes thats in the game right now with big careers but that doesnt mean I want to do a whole album with them. The reason we did this album together is definitely a vibe thing. And he still takes opinions! If I have an opinion, its not like he saying, Im Muggs, I do this, fall back son! If I tell him that maybe we should do this or that on this song, he takes it into consideration. When youre dealing with somebody whos got success with out ego, thats rare. DJ Muggs & Planet Asia “Pain Language” VideoAllHipHop.com: Being that there is so much for consumers to choose from, how would you describe the album for the kid in Fat Beats with Pain Language in one hand and something else in the other, trying to make a decision?Planet Asia: If you like that dark, hardcore s**t, cop our s**t. DJ Muggs: That punch you in the face music that makes you run on the treadmill harder.Planet Asia: Aint no singing, aint no R&B, aint none of that lovey-dovey on our album. This is straight grumpy n***a rap.DJ Muggs: (Laughs) On another note, Ive been watching Asia for a bunch of years and I think hes an incredible rapper. The one thing Ive noticed as far as what I noticed about working with Asia as a producer is he never had a musical image or a musical style, and he always had good beats. Asia is like me, he likes all kinds of music, from Young Jeezy to R. Kelly to Wu-Tang, and hell rap on all that s**t cause hes a fan of all of it. But having a musical image this time and a focused musical style, and sitting together and building on it, I think its a cohesive piece of work thats going to show him in another light and let him flex his muscles so people will say OK, thats Planet Asia right there.AllHipHop.com: It must be a good feeling when you walk out of the studio everyday not having to worry about getting final approval from anybody but yourself and the fans. DJ Muggs: Yeah man, Ive always been about that. My whole career is me doing what I wanted to do, even in the early stages with Cypress. We were successful early, so I was pretty much able to do what I wanted to do. At the end of Cypress being on Columbia though, we got in situations where there wasnt no music people up there no more. There was just college kids up there or whatever. It was frustrating because we had visions for the records and they just werent getting it. Theyre looking at BDS and radio and whats hot this week, telling you what you need to do. I dont need to do nothing, I just need to keep being Led Zepplin. Were not Britney Spears homie, you just dont understand. So that got frustrating for a minute, so thats when we decided to just do it our way. And I got a world of fans man. Ive been traveling internationally since 1989, so with the legion of fans we built worldwide we approach it like the Rolling Stones. You can never be the next boy band or the next pop star in the centre of attention, on TV and pop radio all f**king day. And I could give a s**t, really.We never made pop records, and even the hit songs we had, if you listen to what was on the radio those days, our songs dont even fit into what radio wanted to play. So we just put up the middle finger and say F**k you, like N.W.A. Dont play our records or videos, because thats what Hip-Hop is where we come from.