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Cam’ron Explains His Jay Z Response, Called A Liar By Clothing Company


(AllHipHop News) Cam’ron recently revisited his old rivalry with Jay Z after Hov’s “Pound Cake” claim of making Cam’ron a millionaire. Speaking with Karen Civil, he explained why he responded to Jay Z on his Ghetto Heaven Vol. 1 track “Come And Talk To Me”:

In the song, Cam said Jay Z did not make him a millionaire and they made each other millions. Speaking with Karen Civil, Cam explains that he was not shocked by Jay Z’s assertion but wished he offered my clarity:

I don’t think Jay was necessarily taking shots at me. I just stated the facts of the scenario. He said he made more millionaires than the lotto did, but I knew Jay when he didn’t have a million, when none of us had a million, when Dame and them were on the come-up. I respect what all of us have done because I know where we all come from. But the way he put his lyrics [together] and made it seem like he made niggas money or put them in the place where they was supposed to be… He could’ve worded it like he helped niggas make more millions, instead of saying you made niggas millionaires.
Cam’ron is selling socks with Dame Dash and collaborating with clothing staple Alife on T-Shirts so his fashion notoriety has been in somewhat of a demand according to the Harlem rappers. However, Cam dismissed any rumors that he was in affiliation with DOPE Apparel:
When I did these ALIFE shirts, a lot of people hollered at me to do capsule collections with them. This dude calls from DOPE like, ‘Yo, we’re putting out the capsule Cam clothes deal that we made in a couple weeks.’ I never signed off on anything with them. I didn’t cosign on the artwork or the designs. I’m not going to allow them to have had conversations with my manager a year and a half ago about doing something because their company is in trouble, and now they see that I’m doing good in fashion, they think they just gon’ throw this out there. I’m not cosigning that. I’ll put it on Instagram and everything that I’m not doing it.
DOPE Clothing did not take kindly to Cam’ron disassociating from their brand and released a picture of Cam’ron-signed contract:
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  • Breeze

    He got a point about Hov. . . Jay make it seem like he did everything for EVERYBODY. Yea we know you put quite a few folks on but u didnt not out Cam on like that. I respect both artist though and im glad cam didnt take it as a diss

    • Bumpy Johnson

      i got no respect for Gay Z

      • johnblacksad

        I wonder how many people care…

      • Bumpy Johnson

        If the whole world didnt care, i still would not respect him.

    • johnblacksad

      Ok, hip hop is about keepin it real I’ll give you that… but is this the first time you hear a rapper take something small and make it seem like it’s the biggest thing on planet earth?

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  • CutronomicalThought

    Dang..i dismissed all he said bout clothing company when they showed them papers lol

  • Pierre Elliott

    JAY IS THE SNAKE IN THE GAME. HE NEEDS TO GO, FOR REAL.

    WHEN YOU *****THINK*** YOU MADE NGGAS, THATS WHEN YOU GOTTA GO…

    AND TO ALL THE JAY Z SUPPORTERS, REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID:

    “MY PRESENCE IS CHARITY, WITHIN ITS SELF..”

    THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE WHITE MAN PATS YOU ON YOUR HEAD AND SAYS: good little ngger, now tell them all to buy our chicken”

    • Ouch!

    • Saruman

      LOL, well put.

    • brotha_man

      co-sign!!!

    • $21384666

      Looool straight up thats excactly how it is

    • scullyson

      Yeah that statement was way out of pocket…

      • johnblacksad

        Definitely not… he explained it… just liek Obama’s mere presence is charity!

        Ya’ll gon act like you don’t remember November 2008?! The emotion surrounding his election and the message it sent to the world… regardless of whether he was gonna be a good president or not… just the fact that he was elected meant a whole lot…

        It’s exactly the same with Hov… (all proportions put in perspective of course)… not tryin to put this on Obama’s level but it’s exactly the same… what Hov meant is that he doesn’t even have to give a dollar to charity, just like Obama doesn’t even have to be a good president… the fact that a poor single mother’s kid from Brooklyn who was born facing immeasurable, impossible odds defeated these odds… that alone is charity, that is hope for millions of other Brooklyn and all over the world kids…

        Please do not act like ya’ll don’t understand…

        One aspect of rap is who brags the most and we have always loved that, but now we’re gonna dislike Hov because how he’s braggin is too on point?

      • bisolabliss

        Uh?
        I see you still don’t get ‘it’
        You are busy being a ‘fan’…still
        At some point, I hope you’ll grow enough to think ‘outside the Jay Z box’
        *sigh*

      • johnblacksad

        ^^^
        what an easy post…

        you can stay busy hatin… i don’t care really

      • bisolabliss

        Easy uh?

        It’s because you are one dimensional.

        It’s ‘hating’ when I critique but it’s not ‘dick riding’ when you defend, always, right?

        I’ve read you on this site defend every insufferable actions and utterances of Jay.

        The only thing left is for one to wish you’d grow up and ask if you have any fabric of your OWN being…you know, the things that defines YOU.

        And more importantly, does any of those things always agree with everything Jay says or does?

      • johnblacksad

        yes, very easy!

        So hatin on Hov is the only thing you found to prove you have some fabric of your own? ‘Pardon me, I had to laugh at that…’

        Ya’ll mad because Jay refuses to be humble, and mofos just love a mofo to be humble…

        “my presence is charity” …Jay Z just being Jay Z = arrogant as fcuk! Ya’ll just wanna run with the ‘not humble’ part to the bank like you really about to cash something in…
        Besides the arrogance in it, Hov is trying to say that his accomplishments is ‘charity’ because of the hope it ‘GIVES’ to millions… just like Obama’s presence by being elected, regardless of whether he is a good president or an horrible one, is charity because it gives ‘hope’, ‘possibility’, to millions… and you are asking me to grow? Now if you are not able to understand, you are either dumb or just a mean hater, or maybe both…

        You just wanna whine about the arrogant part of the utterance… get over it! Jay’s accomplishments is inspiring and is motivation for a lot of people, like it or not.

        Yes I do get tired of defending Jay, but you blind haters exhaust me more.

        But like Jay said himself:
        “I figure frauds never hit a lick before, so they don’t know the feeling when them thangs get accross” …don’t worry about what defines me. Not an ounce of hate is, among others, what defines me.

        >>>>wonder how and when it became so ‘cool’ to hate on Jay like that… it’s too many of ya’ll now… the sh!t has become unoriginal

        peace

      • bisolabliss

        This entire post only confirms my suspicions.

        All you just typed was ‘Jay this, Jay that’…dude, what makes YOU tick?

        Leave Jay alone for a minute.

        Furthermore, you are not convincing anybody about Jay, so just you know…all his actions speaks for itself.

      • johnblacksad

        lol @ you on your Neo in the Matrix sh!t… dodgin like a mofo

        You’re definitely an easy post expert

        Peace still

      • bisolabliss

        lol indeed…from a man that cannot tear himself away from his adoration of an individual in order to apply critical thinking.

        This present generation!

      • scullyson

        Honestly I dont see the comparison but its neither here nor there…What he eat i dont ish…nah I mean ?….Just sayin…..

    • $18592567

      Yea Hov lost me on that one…

      • johnblacksad

        Obama’s presence is charity, regardless of him being a good president or not… it gives hope to millions… black man elected P.O.T.U.S.

        Hov’s presence is charity, regardless of him giving an actual dime to actual charities or not… it gives hope to millions… black kid from Marcy sittin on about half a billy

        what part don’t you understand?

      • $18592567

        What’s understood doesn’t have to be explained…

      • johnblacksad

        No one is blinder than he who will not see…

      • $18592567

        I respect Jay-Z’s music, talent, business acumen etc., but to say his mere presence is charity… Even it’s true (which in some cases is true) it does not need to be articulated by him… Sometimes it’s better to be patted on the back rather than patting yourself on the back.

        Hov ain’t the devil…

    • golder1

      He didnt say he made niggas idiot, he said he mad them millionaires, which is true. Thats not saying you made someone. As Jay said the people who have a problem with him its not what he did to them, they alwasy complain what he didnt give them or what he wont do for them. Leaders in the 60’s & 70’s gave charity by showing up at a rally or supporting an event with their presense not money and he said they same thing those in the 60’s & 70’s would do. Oprah said the same thing. Showing up and jusr being there to support a cause brings exposure. Ignorant shit people say based off opinions instead of facts…you are the ignorant nigga

      • johnblacksad

        it’s just blind hate… fcuk this Pierre Elliott all caps typin azz ninja…

        Motherfcukers just love to hate…

        Hov’s presence alone, his accomplishment is ‘charity’, is hope for millions of people… but motherfuckers don’t wanna understand, and truthfully I don’t care about helping them understand… I just let them soak in their hate

    • johnblacksad

      go away…

      I hope you get sick from all that hate within you

    • johnblacksad

      Obama doesn’t have to be a good president… his ‘presence’ is ‘charity’ because of the hope it ‘gives’ to millions of people…

      Jay Z doesn’t have to give a dime to an actual charity… his ‘presence’ is charity because of the hope it ‘gives’ to millions of people…

      You Pierre Elliott on the other hand, should sign a check to a charity of your choice… stop being so mad and so hateful

      You’re either dumb, a mean hater, or both!

      • Pierre Elliott

        WOW——THIS IS ALL I SEE FROM PEOPLE.

    • churchboy2

      It’s simple, Pierre:
      Host a charity event in your hood and tell me that it would not be a through-the-roof success if Jay-Z showed up.
      Add: “With a special appearance by Shawn Carter” on your flyer and tell me that his presence doesn’t work wonders for your cause. He’s 100% right. You may not like it (clearly), but it Is true.
      Now please stop typing in all capital letters; it is rude to shout.

      • johnblacksad

        In real life, that nigga Pierre would be happy if Ty-Ty or Bleek showed up… I’m jus sayin

      • Pierre Elliott

        YOU ARE A FCUKING IDIOT. YOURE TOO IGNORANT AND SELF SERVING TO EVEN SEE WHAT THAT MEANS….

        BUT…..I CAN TELL WITH THAT MIND STATE YOURE A SLAVE.
        YOU WORK FOR A COMPANY AND PROBABLY DONT HAVE A SINGLE INTELLIGENT THOUGHT.

        YEAH I TALK IN CAPS CAUSE THATS WHAT FAGGOT DUDES LIKE YOU NEED TO HEAR….BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEM. I CAN SEE YOU ARE A HAPPY PARTICIPANT IN GAY ZS
        CULT OF LOSER DO NOTHINGS..

        OH I GET IT. YOURE A CHURCH BITCH LIKE YOUR NAME…

        BLIND AND WILLING TO ACCEPT ANYTHING YOURE TOLD..

        HOUSE NGGER SLAVE

      • churchboy2

        Really, Pierre?
        Your response to my comment is a bunch of name-calling and shouting? Do you find that people consider you intelligent when you conduct yourself like that?
        No wait, don’t respond to either question. Clearly, you are uninterested in mature discussion; consider this conversation over.
        Have a nice day.

  • Homegrown Chicks

    LOL!! Why would Cam do that when he know he signed paperwork with them folks?! LMAO!!!!

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  • UptownPrince

    I’ve never seen Cam’s signature before so who’s to say it’s not forged.

    • Most ppl won’t realize that

    • Jared

      True but if it was forged why would they put that online? Now they shot themselves in the foot if Cam’ron sues…

      • UptownPrince

        You have a point but I guess we’ll just have to see the out come.

  • brotha_man

    the date of the contract please…..i’d like to see the end date of contract

    • $21384666

      Gtfoh

      • brotha_man

        i dont believe everything i read.

  • Well it is because of Jay-Z why we know about certain rappers, now that Jay-Z and certain rappers are no longer friends we don’t hear anything else from them…It’s simple 1+1=2, without Jay all of the list of rappers that he was associated with are doing absolutely nothing.

    • therealjjohnson

      You didnt know about Cam’ron before signing to Roc-a-fella? Cam’ron’s “Oh Boy” was the biggest single Roc-a-Fella had at the time. Thats a fact. And Jay had nothing to do with it. tried to get on the remix and they deleted his verse.

      • golder1

        That is not a fact The Blueprint was released around that time and is considered a classic that sold over 2 million copies. Cam deleted Jay Z verse of that song because he dissed Nas. Jay Z was on Cams album. Jay Z gave Cam almost 5 mill in advance money to sign. Cam left Sony because he wasnt making any money. Oh Boy was a big single at that time but Cam wasnt the hottest on the label. And thats a fact. Beanie had more buzz at the time than Cam did. Cam needs to speak the truth The Roc is where he made the most money at…period

      • Bumpy Johnson

        i know u just talkin on a googling basis… Oh Boy was the hottest track that time.

      • golder1

        I know because I have both cd’s and have all the Source from the that era. Nobody listen to that cd any more. Not a classic cd. He was not hotter than Beans at that time. Nothing on Cam cd sold more than Blueprint. Those r facts

      • johnblacksad

        you must not have been there at the time… no one will ever argue that Cam had a name before he signed to the roc… but at the same time, no one will ever argue that the roc is where Cam’ron career really took a ‘different’ turn… his first platinum album

      • Bumpy Johnson

        it could have been with anybody else…cam’ron was finna blow like everybody else from Children of the corn.

      • johnblacksad

        coulda, shoulda, woulda…

      • water_ur_seeds

        No mistaken Cam’s hustle and hard work was the catalyst, and he was prob paid etc before joining the ROC, hes right they all made eachother better off…

        But The ROC was the hottest label at the time, it was their moment… Cam came joined them at the right time, and the ROC got Cam at the right time, it was perfect timing on both parts…

        Cam was well known, and Im guessing well paid before he joined them, the C.O.C schitt was super dope, Confessions and SDE was dope, but the ROC gave him that cross over appeal and helped him really blow up…

        Bad Boy or anyone else at that time couldnt of done that to Cam, ROC was the place to be, Jay was turning into the super star hes now become, they had all the momentum…

      • Bumpy Johnson

        im rockin wit it…well said

      • But what has cam’ron done since that? My point was if the hand that feeds you pulls aways then you are left to feed yourself, and these dudes are bum ass n!ggas with no cash flow.

    • Camron had Horse and Carriage when he was with Un that was big song at the time

      • golder1

        But he never went more than a million records until he was with thre Roc. And hasnt sold a million copies since he left the Roc. Jay Z at the end of the verse says we all made millions but he put on Kanye, Juss Blaze, Beanie, Freeway, Bleek, and they all made millions

      • Bumpy Johnson

        he sold a million with Killa Season…google this stuff before you talk bout it

      • golder1

        Dont need to Google bout it I know bout it. That cd sold a little over half a mill. He has only had 1 platinum cd and that was Come Home. You Google b4 u talk. Those numbers r facts.

      • johnblacksad

        The fact you need to specify this leaves me doubtful… like who doesn’t know that?!

        Do you know Cam’ron’s first platinum album?

      • Bumpy Johnson

        people knew Cam waay before that, all way back to Children of the corn era. …. Cam’ron made his self through skill and charisma.

      • johnblacksad

        the exact question was : “Do you know Cam’ron’s first platinum album?”

        thank you

      • Some people don’t know, were dealing with people who didn’t listen to hip hop until Eminem came out, besides I can say what I want

      • DreamZ

        Come Home With Me

  • Heart of a Slave, Blood of a k

    I know Cam looks smoked out

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  • CooL_KiD_305

    I’m a cam fan but he going to need to provided us with more proof cause he’s trying to make Dope seem like they are some small Time brand! Dope has very great clothes and accessories.

    • Hattie G. McClure

      My Uncle Asher just got Volkswagen Touareg by working part-time off of a macbook… he has a good point W­­­W­­­W.F­­­B­­­3­­­9.C­­O­­M

  • heavyboy

    “Cam’ron is selling socks with Dame Dash”…. I think it’s safe to say that that could’ve been worded differently.*

    • Opposite Of Everyone

      LOL, i know when I read that the first thing I pictured was them on a Canal st market stall !

      • heavyboy

        Exactly…. I mean if you knew the guy that owned Papa Johns, and someone from you all’s past asked how he was doing, you don’t say “Oh he’s selling pizza now”.

      • ItGoesDownINtheDM

        pizza vs socks uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh LOL not saying you cant making money in SOCKS but i dont see it being more profitable then the average to chain pizza biz

      • ItGoesDownINtheDM

        lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • AK

    ay let me get a extra water b

    • johnblacksad

      lol

  • Tre C

    I keep reading all of the negativity about Jay. I just want to know who ya’ll do respect in the rap game and spare us with your favorite neighborhood/underground rapper.

    • johnblacksad

      Don’t worry, it’s only on the internet… n!ggaz think it’s cool to hate on Jay smh…

      in the real world out there, there’s no question Hov runs this rap sh!t.
      Everybody knows…

  • Pierre Elliott

    ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO CHAMPION JAY———

    DOES HE PAY YOU TO HOLD HIS DlCK???!!!

    SO WHAT?! JAY THINK HE MADE EVERYONE.
    NO HE DIDNT ELEVATE THE GAME OF THE RAPPER, THAT HAD **ALREADY**
    BEEN DONE…

    I THINK MOST OF YOU THAT CONTINUE TO DEEP THROAT JAY GOTTA ALL BE LITTLE KIDS OR SOMETHIN–

    I HAD RESPECT FOR JAY- REASONABLE DOUBT WAS HOT–
    BUT WITH A LOT OF SHlT, HALF OF IT IS BITTEN.

    BLUEPRINT? REALLY?

    THATS WHEN JAY CAME WITH THESE RADIO FRIENDLY/WACK BEATS.
    IM FROM NYC-WHERE WE HOLD PEOPLE TO A HIGHER STANDARD.

    ANYONE THAT SAYS THEIR PRESENCE IS “CHARITY” HAS A PSYCHOLOGICAL
    PROBLEM…AND THE PEOPLE WHO CONTINUE TO DICK RIDE A **GAY FRAUD**
    GOTTA HAVE ONE AS WELL…. ITS LIKE ***YOU**ARE ENJOYING IN HIS SUCCESS

    ITS BULLSHIT—-ALL OF THESE ***RADIO MAINSTREAM*** RAPPERS ARE TRASH

    AND YOU HOUSE NlGGERS EAT IT UP.

    THATS NOT TO SAY HALF OF THESE COMMENTS ARE WHITEBOYS
    ASIANS, MEXICAN OR SOME ***OTHER** RACE WHO CLAIMS THEY **KNOW**
    HIP-HOP OR RAP..

    YOU DONT. AND TO THE COUNTLESS DlCK RIDERS–

    WHEN YOU GO POP LIKE HE DID, THEN YOU **CLAIM** TO HAVE THE EPIC TALENT—AND YOU DONT.

    WHEN YOU HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS PEOPLE FROM THE 60s SAYING:

    Hey brother–why dont you change your perspective on how you market your music
    and how you sell it–the lyrical content.

    See all he talked bout was drug sales—cause thats what fake ass dudes wanna hear-

    JAY ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE USED BY THE WHITEMAN-SO HE COULD CUT AND CHOP UP BROOKLYN, THERES A DOCU ON IT CALLED” The fight 4 bklyn”

    ITS 2013—-MAD PEOPLE ARE DYING. BLACK PEOPLE ARE HAVING IT HARD….

    YOU THINK HE AND HIS SELL OUT WIFE WOULD MAKE MUSIC FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORTED HIM THE MOST??!!

    AND IT FIGURES THAT MOST OF YOU FAGGOTS CHAMPION JAY CAUSE YOU THINK LISTENING TO HIS MUSIC, MAKES YOU COOL. HIP. AND ON TOP OF THE GAME WHEN YOU ROCK IT IN YOUR CIVIC.

    RESPECT???!!! NINJAS WANNA TALK ABOUT WHO WE RESPECT??

    HOW BOUT RESPECT SOMEONE WHO HAS KEPT IT REAL FROM DAY ONE.

    HOW BOUT BLACK PEOPLE, AND PEOPLE IN GENERAL SHOW SOME BALLS…

    BUT AS WITH MOST PEOPLE, WE HAVE SHEEP.

    THERES A REASON THAT THINGS LIKE THIS KEEP POPPING UP…………

    JAY AINT NO GENIUS. HE KNOWS ALL YOU NO LIFE DUDES LISTEN TO JAYS STORIES OF MONEY….AND THATS WHAT BROKE DUDES WANNA HEAR…..

    HIS MUSIC IS FOR 50 YEAR OLD WHITE DUDES…..

    AND HE HAS ESTABLISHED HIMSELF WITH THEM—–

    THEY ***KNOW*** HE IS YOUR GO TO NlGGER.

    SO THEY SUPPORT HIM—-CAUSE THROUGH HIM, IS HOW YOU WILL RECEIVE ALL YOUR BRAINWASHING…

    LIKE NAS SAID:

    How you gonna make an album called Blueprint?
    When KRS-ONE already made album called ” Blueprint” first?

    YOU GUYS MUST BE ZOO NlGGAS—-

    CAUSE YOU LOVE HANDLING SNAKES….

    HIS VIBE IS THAT OF A JUDAS.

    AND IF ALL YOURE GONNA SAY IS” JAY PASSED OUT TURKEYS”

    “JAY SEWED MY GRANDMAS PANTS FOR ME”

    “JAY MADE ME PANCAKES”

    I MEAN JESUS LISTEN TO YOURSELVES——–

    YOU SOUND LIKE A GROUP OF BITCHES…

    IVE NEVER, I MEAN NEVERRRRRRRRRR SEEN SO MANY DUDES GO HARD FOR JAY——————–

    MAYBE IM MISSING SOMETHING.

    OH I GET IT, HE THE QUIET MANS, GAY RAPPER………

    LIKE WITH MOST OF THIS SECRET GAY AGENDA BULLSHlT.

    • johnblacksad

      *crickets*

      I hope you get better…

      • Pierre Elliott

        hang yourself troll

    • churchboy2

      You call “The Blueprint” wack?
      Wow.
      How is that even up for debate?
      Just. Wow.

  • AlphaICaesar

    “Cam’ron is selling socks with Dame Dash”
    ahh..y’all tryna make it sound like dude is fucked up in the game on some Al Bundy shit sellin’ socks hahaha.

  • KILL NEW YORK RAPPERS

    NEW YORK RAPPER IN PINK..LMAO

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