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Hip-Hop Election 2007: 50 Cent or Kanye? 
Published Monday, September 10, 2007 9:00 AM
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By Odeisel

September 11 is a day forever etched in the hearts and minds of a nation as the day when America lost its aura of invincibility. Bordered by 2 oceans we had previously remained immune to the pressures of living in a world at war.  Six years later the date takes on an entirely different meaning. Though nowhere near as perilous as its predecessor, September 11,2007 is also crucial to the course of a previously invincible nation's history. On this day, Kanye West and 50 Cent will release The Graduation and Curtis, respectively, an event that could very well determine Hip-Hop's landscape for the immediate future.

 

With a looming 2008 election as a backdrop, with pundits arguing the merit of each as impending victor, the two heavy hitters occupy opposite sides of the spectum musically (politically).  50 represents the right wing.  Entrenched as the ruling party with a formidable track record of continual hyper-masculine hits, "Fif" has sold an astonishing 20 million records in just four years. Much closer to hawk than dove 50 never hesitates to wage war via politics or lyrical warfare in order to protect his interests. Let's just say diplomacy isn't his strong suit. Similarly, Young Buck plays diplomatic Condoleeza; willing to work with burgeoning powers (The South) while adhering steadfast to 50's imperialist doctrine.

 

To the left, to the left, we have Mr. West, metrosexual extraordinaire. While some may say that his sample-laden beats and punchline-powered delivery takes rap back to its essence, Kanye is closer to a departure from traditional Hip-Hop norms. Not occupied with proving how tough he is, or extolling the virtues of the streets or "realism", Ye is more focused on reality...with a sliiight penchant for fashion and outlandish histrionics.  Kanye has been a mini movement himself, powering a mini Chicago renaissance with his production and guest spots.  He plays underdog to the reigning establishment, carrying the hopes of a Hip-Hop generation tired of the status quo and looking for a change.        Kanye represents change in a music that has become spaded and stuck in an evolutionary rut.

 

Much as America is searching for direction, so is Hip-Hop. Aside from a market under digital duress, the main players are aging, tastes are changing, and the fanbase becoming more difficult than ever to forecast tastes. How do you choose a direction as sales decline, fan disgust becomes more vocal, and advertisers and fringe support becomes increasingly disinterested in association? You get the two most high-profile, commercially viable, active rappers and you face them off in direct competition. The victor will probably set the general tone of the music for the next cycle.

 

Make no mistake this isn't about bragging rights (though they will be considerable). This "election" will test the very commercial viability of our music.  It is a test to see if our reign on the top was short like leprechauns or long like marathons. It's a test to see what tone of music will be pushed by labels whose only interest is the bottom line. It's bigger than Hip-Hop.  There are hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, and the final say is finally, maybe more than ever is in the hands of the consumer. No matter which way you vote party people, make sure you vote. Whichever you prefer, or whether you like both (which is definitely allowed) be counted in the marketplace. On September 11th 2007, perhaps more than any election this century(yes that includes Jay and Nas) the choice is yours. Be counted!

 

Find out what the early polls are saying in the Ill Community!

 

You can order both The Graduation and Curtis from the AllHipHop Store!


Comments

 

Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso said:

this shit was funny, but truthful at the same time, both are two totally different themed albums, so i'm assuming the buyers gonna cop whichever they feels reflect their own walk of life..some will cop both....others havent copped an album since they got an internet connection.....this is a pretty symbolic release date, well i guess we'll see the outcome in a hot minute...
September 7, 2007 3:11 PM
 

SouthEnd Jamal! said:

I like both albums...sorry
September 7, 2007 3:12 PM
 

SniperK said:

Both albums were a disappointment...

50 Cent phoned it in and Kanye has lost a step...

Sept.11th is good for pop hop but where is that realness at?
September 7, 2007 3:16 PM
 

nercity07 said:

If I'm feeling positive with an arrogant swag...I'll listen to Kanye

If I feel like knocking somebody out with a f**k the world mentality. I'll listen to 50.

Case closed.
September 7, 2007 3:20 PM
 

SouthEnd Jamal! said:

^^^^^^^xakley

My mood changes all day when dealin wit a lot people
September 7, 2007 3:32 PM
 

odeisel said:

i agree, which is why i find it so hard to beleive that people think it's either or. i'm gonna buy them both
September 7, 2007 3:42 PM
 

Mr.Manish said:

http://www.myspace.com/mrmanish707

First Off add myspace trying to collab,network whatever
Over 1.5 million Spins 14000+ friends.

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Buy Both but 50 cent album is more action packed.
September 7, 2007 4:04 PM
 

HIP HOP SOUTH said:

Buck this election..I'm voting for the Independent(not meaning record deal) selection..Chamillionaire LOL one week after..he's just giving these two guys the spotlight for now..But come sept.18th. my money's going towards Cham..

Sorry ladies and gents, just a little tired of the Kanye/50 thing thats going on all over AHH and Sohh and everyother music site/channel/radio station across the land...


Vote Chamilitary Mayne!!..
September 7, 2007 4:29 PM
 

Rappa Jay C said:

People really just won't shut the fuck up bout this,  its be reported on to death just let it go.. is their not any other important news in hip hop other then these two half assed rappers...
September 7, 2007 4:30 PM
 

Malice_Intended said:

For me it's not really an either/or situation.  I can appreciate what both artists ring to the table.

Though if I was forced to choose between the two, I would say that Kanye has the more satisfying album.    
September 7, 2007 4:30 PM
 

clown chekka2323 said:

who cares
September 7, 2007 4:36 PM
 

maze129 said:

imma save my money and buy three copies of 'The Cool'
September 7, 2007 4:53 PM
 

Code of Iron said:

ill be jacking BOTH albums off the net.
September 7, 2007 5:12 PM
 

C.A.T.thasMe! said:

@ nercity07
...that's exactly how I feel about both artists! Well put.

I'm buying both for sure!
September 7, 2007 5:24 PM
 

OSC-CEO said:

YEAH YEAH!!!!!!!
September 7, 2007 5:31 PM
 

odeisel said:

the reason it's importan tto pay attention to this is not for either of these guys egos, but understand how this is being staged.  they are trying to guage  what peopel are picking.  If that country dude comes in 1st or 2nd, i'm telling you heads will roll
September 7, 2007 5:32 PM
 

dmack_k9 said:

ohh man i cant wait. ima be watchin 106 and park sept. 11

http://www.myspace.com/k9bloodhound
September 7, 2007 5:33 PM
 

WestWest said:

Imma buy both albums... But i hope that one country singer doesn't sell more than kanye & 50... That'll be a big loss for HIP-HOP
September 7, 2007 5:39 PM
 

draenonymous? said:

I copped both, even though I'm definitely more of a Ye supporter, just b/c i have Fif's relentless antics when it's album time. I think the whole beef thing is so played and immature, I mean I haven't had beef (at least what's honestly equivilent to this so called beef) since high school.

Graduation is more my speed, but like dude said earlier if i feel like breakin somebody off i might bump some Fif.

I find it interesting Yayo's role in the album when you see the liner notes (A&R, etc.) and the pics that look like their Ciara on the inside, if it's not ol' girl then she got a dead ringer out here who should be cashin in off her likeness!
September 7, 2007 6:05 PM
 

ptahblade07 said:

still grabbing kanye and downloaded 50

kanye album has grown on me alot its more creative lyrical better produced better arranged it tops curtis is all catagories....

curtis only has better radio singles that about it

Here is my mixtape check it out
http://www.sendspace.com/file/9bzi5w
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D2AUTSTC

new songs on my page
http://www.myspace.com/mikaeldwp
September 7, 2007 6:06 PM
 

KST2G said:

Man I'm definately coppin Ye's album instead of Fif. EVERY album 50 does the exact same thing: start beefing with someone to create buzz and boost record sales. Yet when he does it, people are quick to say what a "smart businessman" the guy is. Personally, I'm sick of it. Hell, his album was pushed back like 2 or 3 times BECAUSE it didn't have any buzz!
September 7, 2007 6:13 PM
 

K.A.K. DEUCE said:

SniperK, "Pop-Hop..." I like that!

Fukk both them cocky overrated bastards! I'm spendin my feddia on some of that goodt 2-0-6 tret (best in tha nation I might add) and some Remy!

They shoulda neva gave them niggaz money!!!
September 7, 2007 7:02 PM
 

slimturk said:

Im coping 50 Cent - Curtis .... Because i like his style in mixing it up and including different genre's of music into one album...Besides I only listen to music which has rythm and beat to it....Ive heard the Kanye West album and it is weak....I struggled to listen to the entire album....Plus his voice sounds like he is gay...

Im buying x2 copies of 50 Cent - Curtis....One for my whip and one for indoors for my home theater system...

September 11 2007 - 50 Cent - Curtis ....
September 7, 2007 7:11 PM
 

D504 said:

Damn why do 50 always have to use a gimmick to push his album just let the alum sell on the strength of his music. Oh I forgot then that bullshit wouldn't sell.
September 7, 2007 7:17 PM
 

DwayneTheDreamPsychic said:

Look at the weird symbolics behind the Sep 11, 2007  release date.

I deciphered the numbers 6 and 9 throughout 50cents advertising for his album release date (6/26/2007). The date has now been changed to September 11, 2007.  Kanye West will release his album on this date as well.

Strange that there would be a big commotion by 2 artist that everyone who knows of these 2 artist know that they have big EGOS.  Sometimes we need that machoism to inspire all of us. But for these 2 brothers with there past situations and styles, there is something symbolic. I believe its more of a sign from God. Look at both of their various styles and latest releases leading up to their releases.



Kanye Wests   most played recent song, You Cant Tell me Nothin.

50cent   most played recent song, I Get Money.

I love both of these songs but look at the parallel planes that they are travelling, money and stubbornness. Look at how their music is going out to the masses and how the weather has been acting lately all over the world. God is a jealous God. If we are putting money first along with our stubborn ways, and not wanting to see the signs of the weather and a lot of other things, then are we headed for a serious chastisement and wrath of God. Im not saying they are the blame for the weather, but its all a sign.



If you looked at the previous blog about 50cents release date, lets look at all the numbers for 6 and 9.  There is a total of 10 6s and 10 9s when you add up all the numbers that reveal 6s and 9s.

6666666666    9999999999

If you look at this its almost like a reflection of good and bad. Its almost like you are looking in a mirror at yourself at your bad side. Since most of us associate multiple 6s with the anti christ its because we all have the devil as well as God inside of us. Doing things such as worshipping things besides God is Satanic in case you didnt know it. Talk to your Spiritual advisor at your Mosque or church. Chances are, you already know it anyway.



The number 9 is very mystical and revealing. The Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan said at the Million Man March that the number 9 is revealing like a pregnant woman. If you multiply 9 by any number and add it back down to a single digit, the answer would always be 9.

Example   2*9=18>1=8=9

3*9=27>2+7=9

lets try a multiple digit, 358*9=3222> 3+2=5+2=7+2=9

Try it for your self multiply any number by 9 and add it back down.

If you look at the angle of a corner its 45 degrees. 4+5=9

Then there is 180 degrees in a circle, 1+8+0=9. 360 degrees in a circle 3+6+0=9



Now in this world of Satan its hard to be upright like a 9 because everything in his world brings your mind down to a 6. The flip side to the coin is the we reveal our actions and thoughts in our creative expressions. So we are all revealing things from our spirit anyway. We could reveal lower satanic energy or uplifting energy from God.



Look at Kanye West song, Stronger and 50cents, Amusement Park. Both of these songs talk of sexual urges and desires.

6666666666    9999999999

The way women walk around these days it takes a strong mind to fight it unless you are on another path. Lets look at their release dates

September 11, 2007. September is supposed to be the 9th month. But according to language and the original meaning of September it means Seven in latin. For now we will go by the Gregorian calendar for 9th month.

9/11/2007

91/19

A rule of thumb that I discovered when doing numerology is that when 19 is revealed its not to be consolidated to one single digit. All others can unless number they are next to each other and reveal 19.

The 9 in front of the 1 represents the ego that defies God, and thinks about him/herself 1st. The second 19 is the 1 God in front of ones self, revealing that he has submitted his will and is on a striving path to God.

Some people will consider that 19 is Gods number, if we have the devil in us we most certainly have God in us. In Egypt, God was called RA. Ra is just another name for one God. If you look at the letters for RA, R is the 18th letter and A is the 1st letter.

18+1=19

God gave us free will. If you look at the word will it is synonymous with wheel.

Thats right, the 360 circle.


TO SEE MORE OF THIS Go TO MY BLOG

http://www.myspace.com/DwayneTheDreamPsychic

PT 3 Coming September 9, 2007...9/9/9

69 & The Ego
September 7, 2007 7:19 PM
 

meeka said:

50 CENT ALL DAY I LOVE CURTIS
September 7, 2007 7:22 PM
 

BigJake© said:

I work at FYE the music store, and today we got to listen to "Curtis" and "Graduation" and in my honest opinion, "Graduation" is number one, "Curtis" was NOT HOT, I prefer "The Massacre" over it...."Graduation" has great beats (of course) and more relatable lyricism and is just all around better, I'm gonna be the first person at our store to buy Kanye's album on Tuesday...Just some insight from a Real Music Fan--Peace Love & Wisdom
September 7, 2007 7:39 PM
 

The Notorious M.O.E. said:

@ Dwayne The Psycic....Dude you dont have nothing else better to do huh? Damn.
September 7, 2007 7:46 PM
 

MAK™ said:

GRADUATION - SEPT. 11th

Hear when I say... Graduation is the better album....real talk

go buy it...I heard them both.... and i have to buy Kanye's..

(just an opinion from music producer... KanYe deserves the win "although it's unlikely for political reasons")

check the page... (got kanye & 50 on there)
http://myspace.com/crackproductions

-mak-
September 7, 2007 7:47 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

"Whose gonna win next week?"
"50! Uh, NOT!!! Kanye, holla at ya boy!" Kanye, kum-buh-ye, Kanye, kumbuye!" Kanye I hope you kick his ass!
September 7, 2007 7:57 PM
 

rtcb24 said:

50 has the better album straight up i heard both!!!!!!!!!11
September 7, 2007 8:39 PM
 

HYPHYWIFEY415 said:

CUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTIIIIIISSSSSS! I FUCKS IT 50 ALL DAY
September 7, 2007 9:43 PM
 

regithug said:

kanye over 50 all day,but ill buy both
September 7, 2007 9:47 PM
 

Ooooh said:

You want to hear 50's new album? Listen to get Rich or Die tryin' but throw in a few wackass songs like "Amusment park". Same shit. Horrible music that kills this culture.

I'm getting Kanye, way more creative, way better lyrics, way more swagger. He's what hip hop was and should be again.
September 7, 2007 9:48 PM
 

GideonYayo said:

9-11-07 .. it's going dowwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn


Kanye VS. 50


PT. I


http://www.youtube.com/v/cZ7l0KoAH6A



PT. II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEPatBkQaqg

September 7, 2007 10:17 PM
 

LEXXBROWN(BAHAMAS) said:

THIS IS EXCITING AND GOING DOWN IN HISTORY.

50 V.S. KANYE WEST ON 911.

I HOPE WE HAVE A PEACEFULL DAY. PLEASE NO MORE DRAMA, AM TALKING TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE OUR SECURITY ALL BEEFED UP.

LOOK SUPPORT HIP HOP.

BY THE WAY I HAVE KANYE AND 50 ALBUM AND BOTH ARE HOT.. HOLLA AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.

MY MONEY IS ON KANYE.

LETS GO OUT AND BUY A COPY OF A HIP HOP CD FOLKS, AND LETS SAVE HIP HOP FROM FALLING.

HIT ME UP @ http://www.myspace.com/lexxbrown
September 7, 2007 10:51 PM
 

eddie604 said:


I don't give a damn about these 2 fools. If I must pick, I would pick Kanye.... lyrical content is better then 50.

I'm spending my Money on Chamillionaire (Sept 18), Twista(Sept 18), & Trae(Sept 25) this month!!    WAAAAAYY better then 50 or Kanye... case dismissed!!
September 7, 2007 11:17 PM
 

kinglopo said:

Well, i do think that this "contest" can have major implications on hip hop. It shows whether real hip hop or gimmick hip hop sells. Rite now 50 is just another crack rapper, with nothing genuine to say so he really represents the bullshit in music. I honestly think that some of these folks who gasing 50 is just because he aint beign real like Ye and dropping all that fake gangsta shit. So we will see if thats the case for the fate of hip hop, if exaggerated lies is the way to fruitful benefits or will real music be pushed to the forefront again. This confrontation can assist albums like Lupe, Saigon and any of the real artistes still coming out, or it can give more fuel to gimmick and crack rappers to stay monotonous and painfully generic and show that they still can sell with that formula. It matters folks, its either a shift or a closed door to some form of music so I have to fight for the one I believe in. I HOPE HIP HOP CAN GRADUATE ON 9/11, AND BRING BACK THE PRINCIPLES THAT WERE SO IMPORTANT TO ITS RISE WHEN THE FOREFATHERS WERE LAYING THE PATH. But to be honest I hope you defend the music your heart is in on this day cause this hole escapade can increase your favourite artistes promotion plan, marketign scheme and the dollar they get for there project so the masses shud speak up. BUT JUST DON'T FORGET THIS, HIP HOP AINT JUST BLACK BY ANY MEANS, THE WHITE FOLKS SPEND THE DOLLARS AND WHO THEY LIKE WILL BE MORE SUCCESSFUL SO WHOEVER WIN/LOOSES, WE WILL ALL KNOW WHO THAT MAIN HIP HOP MARKET IS LOOKING FOR.

Check these cats out

http://www.myspace.com/acmatic

and if u did, theres more than 2 songs now
September 8, 2007 12:15 AM
 

mannywallace said:

That Chamillionaire is pretty dope..
September 8, 2007 12:23 AM
 

BigJake© said:

 
eddie604 said:

I don't give a damn about these 2 fools. If I must pick, I would pick Kanye.... lyrical content is better then 50.

I'm spending my Money on Chamillionaire (Sept 18), Twista(Sept 18), & Trae(Sept 25) this month!!    WAAAAAYY better then 50 or Kanye... case dismissed!!

HELL YEAH thats what I'm talkin about, Adrenaline Rush 2007 and The Ultimate Victory...I'm buyin those two, plus Graduation...I would normally steal...but I feel like my luck is bad enough that I'd get caught this time...anyway good to see another cham and twista fan who recognizes their albums that are being swept under the rug!
September 8, 2007 12:42 AM
 

simiaseh_ahh said:

lmao @ dwayne the dream psychic

u're a treat
September 8, 2007 1:09 AM
 

edit said:

well if amazon were a reliable basis of sales...Kanye is beating 50...

Kanye ranked #4 in overall music sales and #1 in Rap and Hip-Hop sales on Amazon

While

50 ranks #16 in overall music sales and #2 in Rap and Hip-Hop sales on Amazon

Now don't flip out, I understand the streets certainly aren't buying cds on amazon.com just thought I'd note the early presale war numbers.
September 8, 2007 1:27 AM
 

deejayIII said:

I Heard Both Albums. But Albums R Good, But 50 Has Better Records. He Does Give Us That Get Rich or Die Tryin' Vibe In 7 of His Songs, And the Other 6 (Besides Amusement Park) Records R Club Bangers. That Shit Knock. Im Rockin' Wit Curtis.
September 8, 2007 1:29 AM
 

deejayIII said:

I Heard Both Albums. But Albums R Good, But 50 Has Better Records. He Does Give Us That Get Rich or Die Tryin' Vibe In 7 of His Songs, And the Other 6 (Besides Amusement Park) Records R Club Bangers. That Shit Knock. Im Rockin' Wit Curtis.
September 8, 2007 1:29 AM
 

junclassic said:

I heavily disagree wit Kanye not "extolling the virtues of the streets". He talk about growin up in SouthSide, GDs and being called K Rock and mad shit. Thats real "realism". Jesus Walks was a hard ass song!

And homie is huge on the producing side. And did you say Kanye"s playing "underdog" to the reigning establishment?? Woorrrd??

Hahahahahaaaa.

But the dude is nice man. Real is real. But ya synopsis of the dude was uhhh, to tha left, to tha... u know.

Otherwise, hype on... this is good for Hip Hop. On the most memorable day of modern time, Hip Hop will be the number 1 curiosity on erybody mind.

Watch, every hour they gon be reporting sound scan numbers. Erybody gon be at Hot 97. Imagine if the sound scan server broke down that day.

Hilarious.

$1

September 8, 2007 2:56 AM
 

RAPhead32 said:

COPPIN CURTIS POINT BLANK I TRIED NOT TA LET THE HATTERS SWAY MA DECISION TA COP BOTH BUT CURTIS IS WAY BETTER THAN KANYE SHIT WATCH YALL GON B SLEEP BY DA END OF GRADUATION...I WAS...
September 8, 2007 5:05 AM
 

black maybe said:

all that gimmicks to sell records, i'm not falling for it. i fvck with "the graduation" allday cos kanye is genuine.

Peace!


September 8, 2007 7:52 AM
 

TRUBLZ said:

getn both.  don't let chesny take tha 1 spot.  SUPPORT CHAM THA REAL DEAL!!!


dwaynethedreampsychic do what u do!
September 8, 2007 8:52 AM
 

tupacfan35 said:

I'm personally gonna support Kanye west, cause we need to take back our genre from imperialistist no talents like 5-0 who from the beginning was never good.

Support Kanye/Chamillionaire.

5-0 should leave now immediately.
September 8, 2007 10:03 AM
 

dicedabney said:

i gonna miss it cause i be to busy pickin up curtis
September 8, 2007 10:10 AM
 

Da Bol Slice said:

@D504 wat da fuck r u talkin bout faggot west is da one who decided to realease his album on da same day as 50s so get ur facts straight son but im deff coppin fifs curtis i dont fuck wit dat robot shit
September 8, 2007 12:09 PM
 

deeznutz187 said:

2 bad all u guys had 2 wait 2 get ur albums i got mine 3 days early (n no itz not bootleg i only buy real cd's) but yo 4 all u niggaz dat want da curtis dat shit iz crack
September 8, 2007 12:44 PM
 

deeznutz187 said:

2 bad all u guys had 2 wait 2 get ur albums i got mine 3 days early (n no itz not bootleg i only buy real cd's) but yo 4 all u niggaz dat want da curtis dat shit iz crack
September 8, 2007 12:45 PM
 

OG Kush said:

Get Them Both!!! But I like Curtis more...
September 8, 2007 1:15 PM
 

Hustlinupnorth said:

Dwayne the Dream Psychic makes a good point about both of these artists laying down the groundwork for a more self centered society that glorifies the individual over God. That kinda shit is pretty evil, but that's just ther kind of world we live in these days. If I've been reading my Bible right, then shit's gonna get worse before it gets better. Anyway, I've checked both of these discs now and neither one is really making me jump out of my seat. They're both respectable cuts from dudes who could do better, but I think when you come out as atrong as both of these artists did logevity is not certain. So, Ima weigh in an say that in the end it's all gonna come down to how many fans are still in 50's camp. A couple of years ago Fif could do no wrong, now who knows. Kanye will sell the same as he did last time, I don't see him losing a following like his, cause college kids are always gonna buy that kinda music. Me though, I'n gonna wait for new shit from Papoose, The Clipse, Ray Cash and about 10 others, Kanye and Fifty Cent don't need my money. Fuck 'em!
September 8, 2007 2:26 PM
 

ARMZ said:

Both Fucking Albums Iz Str8t Garbo....

Fuck outta Hear man!!....

~A
100
September 8, 2007 2:52 PM
 

the_dboy417 said:

I'm buyin both, simply because it's 2 different types of hip hop. You can't even really argue whats better or what you like more because a person who likes shoot em up bang bang will cop Fif, a person who likes realism and everyday issues will cop Ye. My music appetite tends to vary as much as my appetite for food. I can't eat the same shit every day. Hell somedays I listen to classic rock. Therefore I'll grab both. I'll probably listen to the Fifty first though If that means anything.
September 8, 2007 2:52 PM
 

eddie604 said:

[quote]BIGJAKE said:
HELL YEAH thats what I'm talkin about, Adrenaline Rush 2007 and The Ultimate Victory...I'm buyin those two, plus Graduation...I would normally steal...but I feel like my luck is bad enough that I'd get caught this time...anyway good to see another cham and twista fan who recognizes their albums that are being swept under the rug![/quote]

I already pre-ordered Chamillionairre Ultimate Victory
The CD has leaked on Youtube. Just search "Chamillionaire Ultimate Victory"
It's REALLY GOOD!!!
BUY ULTIMATE VICTORY September 18/07
September 8, 2007 3:26 PM
 

OG Kush said:

what's crazy is I got "Graduation",  "Curtis" and "Ultimate Victory" all on my ipod right now, but i'm still cop all of 'em when they drop...it's just crazy how everything is leaked these days, no wonder people don't buy CD's anymore... we gotta cop' these so that country dude don't come out on top
September 8, 2007 3:56 PM
 

Ackers said:

i downloaded kanyes album and liked it so its on preorder, but i'll prob get curtis's too at some point, just not on release. i dont mind 50 but i gotta be in the right mood whereas with kanye, 'cause of the mix of sounds he has, i can just put a track or two from his album on at any time and be into it.
September 8, 2007 4:15 PM
 

vindiktive said:

NICELY WRITTEN!!! BUT I THINK FIF GOT IT LOL
September 8, 2007 4:45 PM
 

the kaebeezy said:

Kanye got the better album bu fif will sell the most period.....

all indie artist go to
www.myspace.com/updsales
www.updonline.com
September 8, 2007 5:17 PM
 

ersrose3 said:

IM GOING W/ 50 ON THIS CURTIS WAS BETTER THAN WHAT I EXPECTED, AND GRADUATION JUST WASNT

SO I GOT MY MONEY ON 50 FOR THIS ONE
September 8, 2007 7:23 PM
 

ersrose3 said:

@ the_dboy417 GOOD POINT

STILL COPPING BOTH, BUT I'LL BE GETTIN 50'S FIRST
September 8, 2007 7:26 PM
 

meeka said:

I heard both albums to be fare and  I put it like this 50 album is hard and the beats are hot I am from philly and we bump our music loud,Now kanye is album is good for a sunday morning if you can't make it to church kanye albums is mostly slow and sleepy beat but i like a few of his songs. I will buy curtis
September 8, 2007 8:16 PM
 

odeisel said:

many of you are not old enough to remember when rap and hiphop were not omnipresent and all over the place.  i remember a time when we had to stay up as kids till 11:30 to catch Carlos De Jesus on Hot Traxx.  If this Kenny Chesney guy sells more than either one of these guys or god forbid both, it will send a very clear message about the viability of this music. you better believe the cowboys are gonna support homeboy
September 8, 2007 11:42 PM
 

tha clear said:

who ever sells the most will spark part 2 of the discussion
why the other should have sold more. Bottom line, I'm not going out my way to cop either one.
September 9, 2007 1:42 AM
 

SYDsTeeZ said:

50s gangsta rap and kanyes hip hop i already got 50s it leaked its pretty wak an same ol shit with decent beats pretty much just listen 4 the beat/hooks. Kanye ill be able to listen to his lyrics coz hes got more substance and is to me a true hip hop artist.  

September 9, 2007 4:17 AM
 

Dj Familli said:

Okay hold up a second folks. Both 50 and Kanye contribute to hip hop because music changes with our moods. Lately i do feel 50 has been slippin off in la la land but that does not mean he cannot pump out a good track still. Kanye on the other hand keeps consistent but does put out tracks as wack as the next persons. I think those two kats should just sit down and work on ways to filter out the cancer in hip hop created by the bling bling error. Its cool to be fashionable and its nice to smack a hoe but lets try to show kids in the hood that there is alot out there for them other than just driving around in bentleys. How about making songs that tell real stories like the ones too short and devine the dude would make. Stories about shit that went down in your hood.
September 9, 2007 4:28 AM
 

beefinjector said:

is this whats hip hop has come to? a rat race between two stooges of corporate america... tryna make something outa nothing. and yes l said it but they are not theres more shit going on everyday to give a shit about 2 multi millionaires releasing and album and they are making moeny of you suckers?
September 9, 2007 4:31 AM
 

SYDsTeeZ said:

50s got sick beats but his song titles are= GUN GO OFF+ MAN DOWN+ I STILL KILL+ LOADED CLIP+ STRAIGHT TO BANK+ I GET MONEY. This albums only got beats. If hes so fukin talented how come the dumb mutha fukka cant rhyme about nuttin but guns an money.  God damn over rated.
September 9, 2007 4:32 AM
 

odeisel said:

so i take it that those of you who don't fuck with 50's music becasue of the negativity don't go see any black movies.  most only perpetuate existing sterotypes of the promiscuous black buck, or the wisecracking obnoxious clown black male, or the arrested development plagued 30 year old black who still has his pants hanging off his ass and can bearly speak english.

Transformers has a niggerbot who was the only casualty, and a fucking genius black guy who could crack alien code but lived in his fucking momma house and ran around in a jersey and drawers playing playstation.  Give me a fucking break.

NWA's music, especially after cube left was eve worse and nobody talked down on them. 50 does what he does, just say you dont like the dude, dont make no bullshit excuses about he's brinign the culture down and he's negative.  You play video games and shoot up shit to get agression out, why can't your music do it for you?

September 9, 2007 9:19 AM
 

slimturk said:

Hey hip hop world....

We are all anxiusly waiting to purchase our copy of 50 Cent - Curtis ... As most of us have already heard the artists albums either singles or whatever lethod possible....Anyways just a friendly reminder to them 50 Cent Haters out there....Dont open the Kany West package and return it for the 50 Cent - Curtis album that releases on the same day.....

If you listen to this adsvice you will not be dissapointed...However if you prefer to have some music that is whack and sounding like it will be a hit at the department stores good night albums then you purchase Kany West album...

So remember to purchase 50 CENT - CURTIS ....September 11 2007
September 9, 2007 9:49 AM
 

tupacfan35 said:

so i take it that those of you who don't fuck with 50's music becasue of the negativity don't go see any black movies.  most only perpetuate existing sterotypes of the promiscuous black buck, or the wisecracking obnoxious clown black male, or the arrested development plagued 30 year old black who still has his pants hanging off his ass and can bearly speak english.

Transformers has a niggerbot who was the only casualty, and a fucking genius black guy who could crack alien code but lived in his fucking momma house and ran around in a jersey and drawers playing playstation.  Give me a fucking break.

NWA's music, especially after cube left was eve worse and nobody talked down on them. 50 does what he does, just say you dont like the dude, dont make no bullshit excuses about he's brinign the culture down and he's negative.  You play video games and shoot up shit to get agression out, why can't your music do it for you?

The Only difference is N.W.A Had substance in their music, 5-0 however does not, it's just an idiotic rehash and it is more watered down.
September 9, 2007 10:19 AM
 

Kennyredd said:

I like the Kanye-but I don't understand how John Legend wasn't on his album..and even Common!!!! 50 the Femm gotta decent album...it should be clear now to everybody,he pushed Ja Rule outta the way so he could be the next top singer. If you look at it to, 50 the Femm 4 singles deep ALREADY...Kanye still on 2..so we shall see.....
September 9, 2007 10:58 AM
 

The-A.v.e. said:

Kanyifty
September 9, 2007 11:24 AM
 

v4vendetta said:

What happening on Sept. 11? Something about Commercial airliners named West and 50 crashing onto Wall street??

That should overshadow the Bin Laden anniversary tape! (teehee) (Btw, kids, that ain't Osama)

One Hundred.
September 9, 2007 12:15 PM
 

KALIKANE said:

Kanye's album way better fifty fell off hard
September 9, 2007 12:21 PM
 

ConoR--W-PK said:

it is a big issue but lets not forget chamillionaire get the mixtapes there nuts. 50s albums been leaked hes even put the whole thing on his myspace its a shit album im copping kanye then cham next week

www.myspace.com/conoroldboi
September 9, 2007 12:49 PM
 

odeisel said:

Tupacfan35 said:
The Only difference is N.W.A Had substance in their music, 5-0 however does not, it's just an idiotic rehash and it is more watered down.

Find'em fuck 'em and Flee
To Kill a Hooker
She Swallowed it
I'd rather fuck you

Riiiight.  real substance.  Did you even hear that album? Cut the shit.
September 9, 2007 2:18 PM
 

tupacfan35 said:

Find'em fuck 'em and Flee
To Kill a Hooker
She Swallowed it
I'd rather fuck you

Riiiight.  real substance.  Did you even hear that album? Cut the shit.

Oh shut the fuck up, see the video diamonds and you'll see why kanye has substance and this clown does not and never did.
September 9, 2007 2:25 PM
 

K.O.E. said:

Wait til next week and get Chamillionaire's album. Kanye's album is good but doesnt compare and Curtis is just a piece of shit with fairytail songs.
September 9, 2007 2:41 PM
 

bad child said:

kanyes songs are nice but they are just for the moment.50s songs last more than kanyes
September 9, 2007 3:09 PM
 

olamusic said:

@ DwayneTheDreamPsychic
GREAT PPLE OFTEN LAND IN PSYCHIATRIC HOME. I DONT KNW WTF U DID THERE BUT ITS LIKE UR MIND HAS GONE TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
U NEED HELP.
September 9, 2007 3:12 PM
 

kinglopo said:

odiesel, first of, it don't care about what fif is doing to the culture and what not in terms of violence. Black ppl some violent muthafuckas sometimes and me personally, I fuck em black moon all day and all they do is kill muthafuckaz. But you see, black moon aint fucking corny, they looked like the would fucking kill you, 50 is a clown and I can't take that dude seriously. He's just fucking corny. The only way to like fif more than Kanye is really and truly that you can understand 50s ridiculous cheesy shit and Kanye shit goes over your head. If you like lyrics that sound like he put thought into what he was saying so he can use words, terms or literary devices into a fresh way of saying something, how the fuck can you like fifty. And if you really can't understand all of what Kanye is saying, but u hear fif going "I'll fucking put this 45to ya head", atleast you can understand that and therefore you like it.

In closing it got nothing to do with the culture in terms of content, its the fucking cheesy, unoriginal, pre school language that pisses me off.

Check these cats out

http://www.myspace.com/acmatic

and if u did, theres more than 2 songs now

September 9, 2007 4:36 PM
 

odeisel said:

i'm down with boot camp shout to dru ha but there were two 150 lbs guys in black moon and neither were taller than 5'6.  stop buying into the images man .  it's all intertainment.  I can see if you call yourself a teacher or a lyricist  then be held to whatyou say.  ability that is not represented is not recognized. But if you making recrods it is what it is. I fucks with 50 but i dont believe him. I dont believe any rapper.
"niggas is actors, niggas deserve oscars"-B.I.G.
September 9, 2007 9:00 PM
 

odeisel said:

tupacfan35:Oh shut the fuck up, see the video diamonds and you'll see why kanye has substance and this clown does not and never did

-and this ladies and gentleman is proof of a mad dude with a weak ass argument.
September 9, 2007 9:03 PM
 

MAK™ said:

WARNING TO ALL KANYE & 50 FANS...

2 "SHOWDOWN" JOINTS FROM BOTH OF THEM IN THIS LINK NOW!!!

http://myspace.com/crackproductions

Don't say i didn't warn you

LET'S RUMBLE!

-mak
September 10, 2007 12:36 AM
 

LEXXBROWN(BAHAMAS) said:

LOOK I GOT BOTH ALBUMS AND BOTH ARE HOT.

KANYE IS THE HOTTEST 10/10(CLASSIC). THIS I KANYE FIRST CLASSIC FOR SURE TRUST ME PEOPLE.

50 IS OK NOT AS HOT AS HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN 8/10. WHAT KILLED 50 IS THE LACK OF IMPROVEMENT BE FOR SURE ITS A BANGER.

I GOT BOTH ALBUMS FRIDAY I SPINNED THEM ALL WEEK END AND THIS IS MY RATING ON THEM.

GET @ ME PEOPLE AND GIVE ME YOUR VIEW.
http://www.myspace.com/lexxbrown
September 10, 2007 10:14 AM
 

Nisa said:

I like both Kanye and 50, but the real winners will be their record companies who are getting fans to buy cd's again!


myspace.com/nisa_hott
September 10, 2007 10:45 AM
 

meeka said:

eptember 10, 2007.   LAS VEGAS (AP) — Sour grapes from Kanye West — again.

Shut out at the Video Music Awards, Kanye West threw a tantrum Sunday night in front of media and crew backstage as the MTV show was ending.

West, waiting for an elevator in a crowded hallway, began yelling about losing all five categories for which he was nominated.

"That's two years in a row, man ... give a black man a chance," West said, stomping around his entourage and directing his comments at a reporter. "I'm trying hard man, I have the ... number one record, man."

West said he never will return to MTV.

The rapper was nomination for five awards, including male artist of the year. This is the latest in a series of awards show outburst for West. Last year, he crashed the stage at the MTV Europe Awards after not winning for best video.
September 10, 2007 10:46 AM
 

meeka said:

1 MILLION ALREADY
September 10, 2007 10:47 AM
 

RAPhead32 said:

bad child said:
kanyes songs are nice but they are just for the moment.50s songs last more than kanyes

MAN U COULDNT BE MORE RITE...THAS EXACTLY IT RITE THERE
September 10, 2007 10:58 AM
 

GawgaBwoy770 said:

@ RAPhead32

You and bad child crazy as hell..If that was the case Guerilla Face wouldn't be dropping 10 singles off of his album to compete with Kanye's 2..If you listen to the radio and watch tv you'll see "Stronger" and " Wait till I get my money right" are still competing with "I get money" and FiF shit was released a few months after those singles...Kanye made 50 go back to the lab to record more material and he still ain't getting the spins with all 6 of his singles against Kanye's 2..This ni99a went from Tupac to LL in 3 cd's..50 is a gimmick and he fooled me with the first cd bc it was hard as fuck..The second was booty as hell...Now he releases 4 songs 4 the ladies before the album even drops..Ni99az like 50 are killing hip hop with all the bullshit..To any ni99a showing 50 love but hating the South stop that shit too..50 stole our flow and getting paid off of it...The ni99a switched his flow to Southern and watched the money pile up but he still a square ass ni99a who talks gangsta but got a restraining order against Ja Rule..lmao
September 10, 2007 11:22 AM
 

Harlem Hip Hop Tours Blog » Blog Archive » 50 Cent and Kanye West Albums Drop Tomorrow said:

September 10, 2007 11:50 AM
 

meeka said:

50 sold over 1 milion in holland and belgium curtissssssssssssssssssssss 9/11
September 10, 2007 12:16 PM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

MAYNE I DONT EVEN LIKE 50 BUT IM GLAD HIM N YE STEPED UP TO DO THIS CAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE BIG FOR RAP

IM VOTIN FOR YE

CHECK OUT DA NEW TRACK "2NITE" AT
WWW.MYSPACE.COM/THAGRINDAHOLIC
September 10, 2007 12:30 PM
 

junclassic said:

50 shit is better. Its more Boom Bap! More Hip Hop.

Kanye's shit is overly musical in my opinion. And where are them hard ass drums from College Dropout? Its like he never went back to that except for Common's new album.

I like when Ye keep it simple. 50 got that hard shit the hood gon love. "Still Will Kill" is one of many bangers on this album!!

Buying both tho... And Percee P next Tuesday...

$1
September 10, 2007 12:50 PM
 

odeisel said:

percee p..the rhyme inspector?  damn that's a name i aint heard in ages
September 11, 2007 12:58 PM
 

Kanye - Triumph über Curtis? « Kanye, Cent, Curtis, Down, Prognosen, Verkaufsbattle, West, Election « SWISS SECTION said:

September 12, 2007 11:36 AM
 

tupacfan35 said:

You and bad child crazy as hell..If that was the case Guerilla Face wouldn't be dropping 10 singles off of his album to compete with Kanye's 2..If you listen to the radio and watch tv you'll see "Stronger" and " Wait till I get my money right" are still competing with "I get money" and FiF shit was released a few months after those singles...Kanye made 50 go back to the lab to record more material and he still ain't getting the spins with all 6 of his singles against Kanye's 2..This ni99a went from Tupac to LL in 3 cd's..50 is a gimmick and he fooled me with the first cd bc it was hard as fuck..The second was booty as hell...Now he releases 4 songs 4 the ladies before the album even drops..Ni99az like 50 are killing hip hop with all the bullshit..To any ni99a showing 50 love but hating the South stop that shit too..50 stole our flow and getting paid off of it...The ni99a switched his flow to Southern and watched the money pile up but he still a square ass ni99a who talks gangsta but got a restraining order against Ja Rule..lmao

You speak the truth around here, 5-0 is nothing more than a bad version of tupac shakur, tupac was about more than just this gangsta rap (sure he talked about that, but he was much more than that), this one is a disaster.
October 25, 2007 11:41 AM
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