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David Bars: “I’m Just Trying To Stay Official In A Fake Time”
Dec 3, 2025
Bronx MC David Bars pulls up to AllHipHop at One World Studios for one of the realest conversations of the year. Bars breaks down why he’s dropping singles instead of albums, the truth about fake rap beefs, how AI is hurting Hip-Hop visuals, and why being “too real” might be slowing down his career.
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We talk Drake vs Kendrick, Cardi B’s success, adapting to TikTok tempos, dealing with the algorithm, and revisiting collaborations with legends like DJ Premier and D.I.T.C.
This is a masterclass in being an MC in 2025 while the industry shifts under your feet.
WATCH UNTIL THE END – he reveals what might finally change everything for his career.
00:00 – David Bars Intro
00:18 – Reconnecting With AllHipHop
00:55 – Why He’s Dropping Singles, Not Albums
02:04 – Streaming, Attention Spans & Today’s Music Climate
03:25 – Does He Get Frustrated With Lyricism’s Decline?
04:47 – Drake vs Kendrick: “It’s a Sport”
06:35 – The Problem With Fake Rap Beefs
07:58 – “I’m Just Trying To Stay Official In a Fake Time”
09:03 – Coming Up Around Legends As a Teen
10:18 – Is Being Attached To Older Artists a Gift or Curse?
11:55 – On Revisiting Collabs With DJ Premier & Hit-Boy
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What's good? It's your boy David Bars.
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I'm here with my man Chuck. All hip hop.
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You already know what time it is.
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What's going on world? It's your man
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Chuck Creekman aka Jigsaw All Hip Hop's
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in the building at One World Studios and
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we got a veteran but a young veteran. A
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a a an MC
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and MC's MC David Bars.
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What's good with you? I'm chilling.
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How you How you?
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It's been a minute.
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Yeah, it's been a How long? It's been a
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couple years. Few years.
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Ain't been two three two like two years.
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We both had trenches on that day. I
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remember that.
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Yeah. I was about to say you king of the
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peac coats.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I I ain't got the peacicoat this time.
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He ain't got it on right here.
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He's over there.
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Fact. I meant to tell you that, too.
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Yeah. Yeah. What's been going on with
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you, man?
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Just, you know, putting out music.
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Putting out music.
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Yeah.
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And uh staying stand.
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You putting out a lot of singles.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Why you focused on singles now? Uh it's
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just it's just a better route for us
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right now
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for what I'm trying to do.
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But what but yeah that's not really an
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answer though.
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So you mean like why ain't album?
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Yeah.
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I mean if you look back I I previously
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did albums so it ain't like I'm shy of
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an album. You know what I'm saying? Like
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I just tried a different formula.
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Do you feel like it's a part of the
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the the streaming or the attention span
1:23
or something like that?
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I mean it got a lot to do with
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everything. Yeah,
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it got a lot to do with everything. But
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in a sense, it's like if
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if enough people ask for an album, then
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I'll put out an album.
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Okay.
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But until then, I'mma just keep focusing
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on singles.
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Yeah.
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As of right now, ain't a million people
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asking David Boss for an album, so it
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don't really make sense for me to
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put out a full album. And
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all right,
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not to cut you off,
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I actually was already thinking about
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putting something out. I got enough
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music to do it.
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It's just a matter of structuring it,
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you know,
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it way. Yeah. No, because see here's the
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here's the way I look at it, right? When
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you when you when you drop an album,
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sometimes
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it if it's good enough, it'll age very
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well. So when it pops
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the the one album that does, people go
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back to it.
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You know what I mean? So they'll go back
2:15
to your whole catalog. I mean, that's
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what I do. Shoot, when I I heard the new
2:19
the new Freddy Gibbs Alchemist album,
2:21
now I like Freddy Gibbs. I'm not I'm not
2:23
asleep.
2:24
But this one right here, I went back and
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listened to everything Freddy Gibbs
2:30
pretty much ever did again.
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Yeah,
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definitely. Yeah, absolutely. So, I I
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know it's like a little bit crazy right
2:37
now because we're not doing albums the
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way we used to. People doing one minute
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songs and
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two minutes.
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Like, it's different now. So, it's like
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you said, like with the streaming and
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the attention span. So it it's just a
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lot of things different things to factor
2:53
in. You know what I'm saying? So
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So do singles,
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you know, subsidize your lifestyle? Is
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it is is that
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I mean it works for right now. You know
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what I mean? Like we we already been
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talking about putting together an album,
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you know, me and my team and stuff like
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that. So
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Okay.
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I I got you know what I mean? I got
3:09
stuff in the tuck, bro. You know how I'm
3:11
coming. Like I've been doing this
3:12
forever. And again, like even with the
3:14
veteran thing, like
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I've always been younger than everybody.
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So, I just been around everything at a
3:20
super young age. But I'm a '90s kid,
3:22
bro. Like, I come up
3:25
from that time. No, I'm not saying it's
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a bad thing.
3:27
I'm just saying in a sense like people
3:29
might look at me in a certain way cuz,
3:31
you know, the affiliations and stuff
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like that, but
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I was always like 10 years younger than
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everybody
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at least
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more like even more like so, you know
3:39
what I'm saying? Like,
3:40
you get what I'm saying? So, I just been
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around a lot of stuff. So, that's what
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made me advance like how I am now. So
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yeah,
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I just, you know,
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definitely definitely what it is.
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I' I always get the sense I always feel
3:52
like you're and don't don't I don't want
3:54
to just put words in your mouth, but I
3:56
get the sense that you're maybe a little
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anxious or frustrated at how hip-hop
4:04
doesn't focus on lyrics as much. Is that
4:06
is that fair to say?
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I wouldn't say frustrated.
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Okay.
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I would just say um
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I would just say you got to learn to
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adapt. So, in a sense, it's like I can't
4:16
be frustrated at the new things that's
4:18
going on. I actually enjoy a lot of
4:19
music. Like, I listen to a lot of
4:21
like music. I listen a lot of old school
4:23
music, but
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I enjoy music. So, it's not a sense
4:26
where I'm like, "Yo, I wish lyrics had
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come back." Like, I understand times
4:29
change.
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Yeah.
4:29
And I'm able to adapt to the times as
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well. So,
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I would just say like, you know, I just
4:35
I just miss how it was.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? In a sense, like a
4:38
lot of us, you know what I'm saying? So,
4:40
that's why people get excited for the,
4:42
you know, clips album. cited for the
4:44
Mald Deep album. So that's that's what I
4:46
mean with it. Like
4:47
in a sense it just it was a different
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time.
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Yeah.
4:50
It was appreciated more.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah. I agree
4:52
in that sense.
4:53
And and and low key the Drake beef with
4:56
Kendrick sort of
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it's hard. It's it kind of sucks in a
5:02
way because but it took something crazy
5:03
like that to to shake things up
5:06
to bring people back to focus on bars.
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Do you agree with that? It's a sport,
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it's a uh my bad. It's a sport. So, it's
5:16
a competitive sport. So, I ain't gonna
5:18
lie, it excited me, too.
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Yeah.
5:20
Like, I like I like seeing all that like
5:22
Kendrick that type of time. I love it.
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Yeah.
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I'm here for it. So,
5:26
and the other the thing that I liked
5:27
about it, and not to dwell on that, but
5:29
the thing that I liked,
5:30
which is a part of the game now, is they
5:33
were coming back at each other in real
5:36
time. It wasn't like,
5:37
you know, and to me that's
5:39
not remember ether
5:42
was like it felt like years. Yeah. It
5:45
was like six months after takeover. It
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was a but that was like a long time.
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I didn't even know that till like a
5:50
couple years ago,
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right?
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Cuz at the time like I was young so I
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didn't I wasn't paying attention to I
5:56
looking back I don't even know timelines
5:57
but I didn't know it took that long. I
5:59
was like, man, I mean, I'm not gonna
6:01
lie. People because cuz Nas had dropped
6:04
other little records
6:05
up to that point and they didn't hit,
6:08
right? It wasn't either. So, we were
6:10
like, "Ah, he's finished. He's done."
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He I mean, he took a If he would have
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did that in this climate, Yeah. he'd
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have been cooked,
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right?
6:16
He'd have been media part of it would
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have
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Yeah. He'd have been cooked. But,
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how do you feel about that?
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Different time.
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Yeah. It was It was a different time.
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Fans But fans,
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you got to have your sword ready, man.
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Exactly. It's just different times,
6:28
that's all.
6:29
And then also, you look at like the Joey
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Badass um that situation with um Damn.
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Yeah.
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I'm I'm drawing a blank right now.
6:37
Excuse me, y'all. I didn't
6:38
uh the TD and all that.
6:39
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All that.
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Um that didn't work out.
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So, that didn't
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I said it in one interview. I
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like it fizzled out.
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Like, you know what I mean? It's just
6:50
the facts, bro. Like, nobody really pay
6:51
attention to diss tracks unless it's a
6:54
ether or
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it's a you know what I'm saying? Ice
6:56
Cube joint, no Vaseline, like classic
6:59
dish record. So
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it it's not no shade to people just get
7:03
back to the music.
7:04
That's all.
7:04
And now everybody hate, you know, never
7:06
everybody picked the team. They they
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hate him.
7:09
Yeah. And now it passed.
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Yeah.
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Nobody even who's playing them records.
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That's not shade. Like who's playing
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that?
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Yeah.
7:16
DJ's not playing it on radio.
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Yeah.
7:18
To to spark it up again when it's
7:20
already, you know, I mean, died down. So
7:23
that's all I be saying, bro. is just
7:24
like, "Let the music speak."
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Yeah,
7:27
that's that's an interest.
7:28
Let the music speak.
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Yeah. But does that work? Cuz I mean,
7:31
you've you've put out a good body of
7:33
work so far, you know. Um
7:36
but I just get the impression that it
7:39
has to be something more than just a
7:41
music.
7:42
Yeah. I mean, it's climbing to do.
7:44
Yeah.
7:44
So, I don't know. Maybe they could tell
7:46
me what I'm missing in the comments.
7:47
Listen, I'm I don't know. That's what
7:48
I'm saying. But it's like it's like a
7:51
I mean, sometimes you get frustrated as
7:53
a human being. It's like with anybody in
7:54
any career, you going to get frustrated
7:56
with certain things, but like it ain't
7:58
to the point where I'm like, you know,
8:00
throwing shade at [ __ ] I'm like doing
8:02
certain [ __ ] like
8:03
So, no beefing for you.
8:04
No, I ain't unless somebody come and and
8:06
throw shots at me, I'm going to respond.
8:08
But other than that, I'm not going to
8:10
jump out the window and start a fake
8:11
beef,
8:12
you know, I mean, quote unquote for for
8:14
clicks, bro. Like, I like walking
8:16
around. I can do what I want.
8:17
Yeah.
8:17
You see what I'm saying? So, I ain't I
8:18
ain't doing all that.
8:19
Yeah. like we we from the street. So I I
8:22
could continue to do what I'm doing
8:24
and if somebody do throw a shot, I'm
8:27
with it. I'm with all that.
8:28
Yeah,
8:28
we that's when you gonna see another
8:30
side of bars. But until then, I'm
8:32
chilling, bro. Like I'm just worried
8:33
about music.
8:34
Yeah.
8:34
Focus on the music. Do what we got to
8:36
do.
8:37
When you look on your career,
8:39
what's what's say what's what's your
8:41
most proud what's your proudest moment?
8:44
Um I don't know. I got a lot of moments,
8:46
man. Like I was working with Premiere
8:48
like 10 15 years ago.
8:50
Yeah.
8:50
Like locked in with him in the studio.
8:52
So like as I said like a lot of stuff
8:54
don't impress me
8:55
right now in this climate because I've
8:57
been doing certain things since like a
8:59
kid, bro. Like so
9:01
I met P at 15 years old.
9:03
You see what I'm saying? So it's like
9:05
even with that like I met so many people
9:07
and a lot of the times when I met these
9:09
people I ain't really know who they was
9:11
until later.
9:12
I'mma keep it a stack. I ain't know who
9:14
they was. like I ain't know they was
9:15
that of who they was. Like you see what
9:18
I'm saying? So
9:19
in a sense it's like I'm just being
9:22
myself, bro.
9:23
That's it.
9:25
That's it.
9:26
Did you um did you ever feel
9:30
like being attached to older artists was
9:34
a bad thing?
9:36
Well, see like again like what I just
9:37
said. So I didn't know certain history
9:40
even about like DITC certain things I
9:42
was doing with them. There's certain
9:43
things I found out later on
9:45
that I didn't know like that certain
9:47
songs that was made or this person might
9:49
have worked with that. Like I didn't
9:50
know what was going on. So like I was
9:53
just soaking up the knowledge being
9:56
around stuff happy to be there
9:58
and like I always put myself in
10:01
situations where if I if there's a
10:03
situation over there I'm going to go to
10:05
it.
10:06
So that's how I ended up in that circle.
10:07
I see what you're saying. Nobody came
10:08
and picked me up from the like I was
10:10
around bro. So I like I made myself be
10:13
around,
10:14
right?
10:14
You see what I'm saying? In the right I
10:15
just ended up being in the right places
10:16
at the right time.
10:17
Right.
10:18
But now looking at it, it does it's it's
10:22
a gift and a curse.
10:23
Yeah.
10:23
It's both.
10:24
Yeah.
10:24
Depending on how you look at it.
10:26
Would you Well, but but now that you're
10:29
a little little older, a little more
10:31
mature,
10:32
it seems like there's more cross
10:34
collaboration that works like you know
10:37
what I mean? Like Nas and Hit Boy is
10:39
probably the best pace. you know what
10:40
I'm saying? But there's others as well.
10:43
Um, what what are your thoughts on maybe
10:46
revisiting uh those type of
10:48
relationships? Or if not those guys,
10:50
then maybe someone else.
10:52
Um, I'm I'm I'm definitely down to
10:54
revisit.
10:55
Um, yeah, like um I don't want to say
10:57
too much, but I wanted to do the uh, you
11:00
know, the barcode, too.
11:01
Okay.
11:02
So, we looking at doing that. That was
11:03
originally the plan. So,
11:05
I'm not saying like this is going to
11:06
drop next month. I'm not you know what
11:08
I'm saying? But that was originally the
11:09
plan. And so, do I want P on it? Of
11:11
course. He did the first one. So,
11:13
you know what I mean? That that I
11:15
revisit the Hit Boy thing. I I would
11:17
love to work with Hit Boy, too.
11:19
Yeah.
11:19
But, um, with the Nas and Hit Boy, I
11:21
would just feel like they, uh, bridging
11:23
the gap.
11:24
You know what I mean? They bringing two
11:26
different eras together and they making,
11:28
you know, classic stuff. So,
11:29
yeah,
11:30
I think it's dope. I'm with all that.
11:31
You know, P got the new Nas joint
11:33
coming.
11:34
That's why I said that. I know he got
11:35
the joint coming with Nas.
11:37
Yeah.
11:37
So, yeah, that'll be dope. That'll be
11:39
dope. Yeah, absolutely.
11:40
That's definitely
11:41
What about, you know, Fat Joe has moved
11:43
into a new version. Have you ever built
11:45
with him?
11:46
Um, not much. Um, Joel, he a cool dude.
11:49
I ain't never really um like chop it up
11:51
with him on that level, but
11:52
yeah,
11:53
I've been around a few times. Good dude.
11:55
I get the impression that the older guys
11:57
are moving all into podcasting.
12:00
I see it. I see it.
12:02
Everybody in podcasting.
12:04
I'm like,
12:05
everybody in podcasting, bro. Like, it's
12:07
crazy.
12:07
It's crazy. And I mean, you know, as a
12:09
media vet, I mean, I gotta be honest and
12:11
say about that.
12:12
It was a little weird being back in the
12:14
day. We were call we were corny. Like we
12:17
were
12:18
Well, that's a blanket term. Blanket
12:20
term. I don't I don't know that I wasn't
12:22
treated I wasn't treated poorly.
12:24
But a lot of a lot of people were
12:27
they were journalists.
12:28
You know what I'm saying?
12:30
And now it seems like everybody's in the
12:31
media. I'm like
12:32
it's what's working right now.
12:34
Yeah. Yeah. Definitely.
12:35
Man, that go back to as time change. We
12:37
got to adapt. So
12:38
yeah,
12:38
I can't knock the hustle. It is what it
12:40
is. They, you know, everybody getting
12:42
their money and stuff. So
12:43
why don't you do one?
12:44
[ __ ] I I'll start one.
12:46
We can we can start a podcast.
12:48
But I don't know. I'm too early in the
12:50
uh
12:50
I'm too early in my time. They already
12:52
like
12:52
You're not out to pastor yet.
12:54
I'm I'm still too in love with the
12:55
music. So
12:56
you know what I'm saying? I'm I'mma keep
12:58
wanting to do the music. So until I felt
13:00
like I don't really want to do music,
13:01
then maybe if that's something that's
13:03
still around. And then Cameron talking
13:05
about, "No, I'mma just do freestyles."
13:07
And
13:07
yeah, I be seeing them. I be tapped in
13:09
here and there. I be seeing
13:10
Yeah.
13:11
the Joe and Jada joint. I should be
13:12
having me on the floor.
13:14
Yeah. No, they funny.
13:15
For real. For real.
13:15
That's the difference, too. They're
13:16
entertainers now. I mean, like real
13:18
funny
13:20
topics, stories,
13:22
beefs.
13:22
Yeah, it'd be funny.
13:24
I think I I just saw just the other day
13:26
Jim Jones beefing talking bad, I should
13:28
say, about Yayo, Tony Yayo from Gun. And
13:32
I was just thinking,
13:34
are they playing us? Like, are they
13:35
doing this back and forth?
13:37
Think they
13:38
making money.
13:39
I don't know what's it had to be.
13:41
I mean, they got history. Yeah.
13:43
Yeah. I don't know. Like, that's why I
13:44
said I ain't into making all the
13:46
fake beefs or like I ain't never had
13:48
nobody call my phone and be like, "Yo,
13:50
we going to beef,
13:51
you know, make this amount of money."
13:52
So, I don't know how that work, but
13:53
And Jim's not that kind of guy.
13:54
I don't know how that work.
13:56
Yeah.
13:57
Yeah. So, so back to you. Um,
14:01
what's the next move that you feel is
14:03
going to change things for you?
14:06
Like like like
14:08
we look I see your team in the comments,
14:11
you know. I see
14:13
what's being said.
14:15
I'm that guy.
14:16
Huh?
14:16
Cuz I'm the guy.
14:17
Yeah.
14:17
Yeah. They don't see it yet or they
14:20
don't they see it. Some people a lot of
14:22
people don't see.
14:23
But we have to figure out what the shift
14:24
the shift is going to be. What do you
14:26
feel like that could be? I don't know.
14:29
You got to figure it out.
14:30
I'mma be real with you. I'm just trying
14:31
to stay like official in a in a fake
14:34
time, bro. Like,
14:35
okay.
14:36
You get what I'm saying? Like, all this
14:38
[ __ ] corny to me, bro.
14:39
Like, I'mma keep it all the way 100 with
14:41
you. Like,
14:42
so me being me is probably my worst
14:44
curse.
14:44
Yeah.
14:45
Because I'm not
14:48
What word can I use? I'm just not I'm
14:50
not that type of dude, bro.
14:51
Certain [ __ ] I'm not going to stand for.
14:53
So
14:53
Mhm.
14:54
I think that might be a issue with
14:57
certain things in this
14:59
in this lane that I chose.
15:01
But again, like I'm just trying to keep
15:03
it
15:04
official as I can for myself.
15:06
Yeah.
15:06
When it chips forward, bro, it is what
15:08
it is. But I'm going just say like I'mma
15:10
still be me at the end of the day.
15:12
That's that's like
15:13
I'm not really trying to like
15:15
how can I say that? I'm not really
15:17
trying to like go and start a like fake,
15:21
you know what I mean?
15:22
to get views or like certain [ __ ]
15:25
So maybe that's like a thing that's like
15:27
you know people like nah but you got to
15:28
do that
15:29
and it's kind of like that's why people
15:31
do it right. So it's like
15:32
well that's the easy route. That's the
15:33
easiest route.
15:34
But for some people it work.
15:35
Yeah.
15:35
But then do y'all know any of their
15:37
songs.
15:38
So then I'm just known as like the guy
15:40
that did that.
15:41
Yeah.
15:41
You feel what I'm saying? But you can't
15:42
name no records. So the reason I put out
15:44
singles is you could go back and you can
15:46
remember the songs I dropped.
15:47
Yeah.
15:48
Somebody asked you in the interview,
15:49
name five David Bar songs. It's more
15:51
likely for you to know that because I
15:52
drop singles.
15:53
Definitely.
15:54
You see what I'm saying? So,
15:55
it's just navigating through the through
15:57
this [ __ ] through the [ __ ] Like,
15:58
that's all it is, bro.
16:00
What about visuals now? We have like I
16:04
kind of hate AI. I'm not going to lie.
16:06
AI AI is is cool in one way, but if you
16:11
don't use the right person to create
16:14
that content, it comes off really corny.
16:18
And I'm And I'm gonna be I'm gonna be
16:19
really honest. I hate the way rappers
16:22
are using AI right now.
16:23
Who who used it so far?
16:25
I'm not going to name names cuz then
16:26
I didn't really see much like video.
16:28
I've seen a number of videos. A number
16:30
of them. I I'll tell them I'll tell you
16:33
specifics off camera. But to me, I
16:37
either want the super authentic look
16:40
or if it's going to be if it's going to
16:41
be AI, then you need to be doing
16:43
something on Star Wars level or
16:47
something crazy. Yeah. You know what I'm
16:49
saying? Um, but the point I'm getting at
16:52
is that for maybe you, maybe it's the
16:54
visuals cuz people are visual now. They
16:57
often times want to see
17:00
um
17:02
how authentic you really are. It might
17:04
not be coming through just music.
17:06
Yeah, I feel you.
17:07
Yeah,
17:07
that's why you said the podcast.
17:09
Yeah, that too.
17:10
But podcast can take away the mystique.
17:12
And I think that's
17:14
for the artist now. Like for example,
17:16
Fat Joe. Everybody knows Fat Joe. We You
17:20
know what I'm saying? So, we we got the
17:23
mystique part of it. Now, it's time to
17:24
be
17:26
lighter, more fun, more entertaining
17:29
than 20, 30 years ago. You know what I
17:32
mean? So, the podcast worked for him.
17:34
I'm not saying that it would work for
17:36
you necessarily
17:37
because then we going to hear too much
17:39
and I think that's a problem too.
17:41
Over like the the timing is just like,
17:44
you know,
17:45
Yeah. You got to got to navigate through
17:47
it.
17:47
Who do you want to work with? I mean,
17:49
there's still there's no shortage of
17:51
really quality MC's out right now.
17:54
To be honest, I would just much rather
17:56
work with like producers at the time.
17:58
Why don't you want to But certain
18:00
artists, it depends. Like, because you
18:03
got to look at it like this, like
18:06
if if I got a mutual respect with the
18:08
artist and we could work, then that's
18:09
fine. But I'm not like going to pay an
18:10
artist to do something
18:11
cuz then like
18:13
I could I could I could have Kendrick on
18:15
a whole album. That don't mean you gonna
18:16
go listen to my album after that.
18:18
You get what I'm saying?
18:19
Well, it's not really
18:20
I'm I'm respectfully disagree. I'mma
18:23
respectfully respectfully disagree. And
18:25
why? I'mma tell you why.
18:27
There's an artist named R.J. Payne.
18:29
Yeah. Yeah.
18:30
Most people right now they know who R.J.
18:32
Payne is, right? But beforehand
18:36
he I I didn't hear of R.J. But he did
18:39
songs with Ransom. Him and Ransom were
18:41
tight for a period of time. And I was,
18:44
you know, I was aware very well of
18:46
Ransom. And now
18:49
I tapped into, you know, the algorithm
18:51
works crazy. So they'll serve up a
18:53
Ransom song with R.J. Payne on it.
18:56
Oh yeah. Like similar artists. Yeah.
18:58
Yeah. Yeah. I'll be seeing that.
18:59
And I've never looked back. So RJ Payne
19:01
has been on Hip Hop's MC of the year.
19:03
Okay. I mean, we talk and um he just got
19:07
a shout out from Dr. Dre the other day.
19:10
Yeah. Yeah, I've seen it. I seen it. I
19:11
got
19:11
And we did two interviews before
19:13
manifesting that Dr. Dre look.
19:16
So, I got two drops. One even with iced
19:19
tea in it talking about that. So, I'm
19:22
just saying the
19:24
here's the problem.
19:25
It's machines that are pushing us
19:29
certain places. It's not it's not labels
19:33
and marketing. It's machines.
19:36
And you got to trick the machine.
19:37
That's basically what you got to do.
19:40
I'm not trying to school you or nothing.
19:41
No, I'm taking you know what I mean?
19:43
You know what I'm saying? But that's
19:44
that's why I say collaboration. Even
19:46
even someone like Corey Guns or
19:48
Yeah.
19:49
You know, it doesn't even have to be a
19:50
big artist per se, but not saying Cory
19:53
Guns not a you know, major artist. He's
19:55
he's incredible. But just to say that
19:58
the um the Kendricks obviously they
20:00
gonna be hard and some of these guys
20:02
they really too fly for their own good.
20:05
But I'm just just a suggestion. Just a
20:07
suggestion.
20:07
Yeah. No, I hear you. I
20:09
And plus by the way, we always want to
20:11
hear people go back and forth.
20:13
Yeah. It's the sport. That's what I
20:15
said. Yeah.
20:16
But it's fun. Like that's what I said.
20:17
So
20:18
I I be down to collab. It's not like I'm
20:20
on some like I ain't collabing with
20:22
nobody. If I think, you know what I
20:23
mean, dope, it makes sense and we could
20:25
do something, then
20:26
I mean, I'm on for it, bro.
20:28
Yeah.
20:28
Like, it it's it's motivating when you
20:31
spar with certain people anyway,
20:32
you know what I mean? So, that's how I
20:34
look at it. It's it's fun.
20:35
Competition.
20:36
Yeah. When you enjoy it, it's fun. So,
20:38
I'm cool with that.
20:39
Competition. So, what's your favorite
20:41
part of the game, right? Like, you gota
20:43
you still in it, so you got to like it.
20:45
You still got to have something.
20:46
Making music is fun. Like, that that's
20:48
the
20:49
That's not the game.
20:50
Yeah. So, like if you ask about the
20:52
game, like ain't nothing really fun
20:53
about that side.
20:55
Like,
20:56
yeah.
20:56
Ain't nothing really fun about the
20:58
business side.
20:58
Yeah.
20:59
You know what I'm saying? Like, as long
21:01
as you got your business in order, then
21:02
you straight. But
21:04
other than that, the fun part really
21:05
come from
21:06
doing this, doing recording, doing, you
21:09
know, I mean, like
21:10
doing interviews.
21:11
Yeah.
21:11
What about shows?
21:12
Um, that, you know what I mean? So, I
21:15
look forward to doing that. Um,
21:17
but yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like,
21:18
all the fun come from that part. from
21:19
the art part.
21:20
Have you
21:21
art side of it?
21:22
Have you explored different parts of the
21:24
world? Have you thought about
21:25
Not enough?
21:26
Yeah.
21:26
Yeah. I need to travel. I gota I got to
21:28
get out and see more.
21:30
Yeah, definitely. Because I think that
21:33
more appreciation for lyricism comes
21:36
from places outside of the United
21:37
I've heard that. I've heard that a lot.
21:39
Trust me, man. I've been to a lot of
21:42
different places. Um and they love they
21:46
love the culture, not just rap. Yeah,
21:49
they love the country.
21:51
Yeah,
21:51
for sure.
21:52
Definitely. So, I say I hate to say it,
21:54
but check your algorithm. See where they
21:56
coming from.
21:56
I ain't going to lie, though. I be uh I
21:58
be looking at my like Spotify and all
22:00
that. Like I be having like mad
22:02
different countries.
22:03
Yeah.
22:04
Like Africa, Japan, all type of, you
22:06
know, I mean, Switzerland, this place,
22:08
like it be crazy like different names
22:10
and it'll show you like the amount of
22:12
listeners and all that. So,
22:13
you know, I mean, yeah, it's dope. Like
22:15
the fact that we artists could see that
22:17
is dope
22:18
cuz I don't think they had all them apps
22:19
before, you know what I mean? Like in
22:21
certain things. So like now we can
22:23
actually see, you know what I'm saying?
22:25
Like
22:25
certain things. But
22:26
and then back in the day there was like
22:28
different things like Glo I forget the
22:30
name of it now. It's been so long.
22:31
Gloatron or something. So
22:33
[ __ ] what?
22:34
It's just it's just something I made up.
22:37
I thought to say
22:38
it was I mean I forget the name.
22:39
Radiotron or something like that. And
22:41
they would they would track spins and
22:44
stuff like that, but
22:45
we didn't know what the reality was
22:47
back, you know? We didn't know what they
22:48
were really, you know what I'm saying?
22:50
Different time, man.
22:51
Yeah. Yeah.
22:52
But no, I hear you though. I definitely
22:55
Yeah. No, no, no. We We gota, you know,
22:57
we got to we got to crack the code.
22:59
Everybody's actually cracking the code.
23:00
Not just not just rappers, but artists,
23:03
you know, uh media people. I mean, all
23:08
hip-hop has to deal with variety and
23:12
complex and GQ has a rap division.
23:16
Yeah. It's crazy.
23:17
You know what I mean?
23:18
There's a lot going on.
23:20
Sure.
23:20
It's crazy. It's crazy. Do you do you
23:22
ever feel like um or or how do you feel
23:26
about this with hip-hop being so
23:28
mainstream now?
23:30
Um is it too is the culture now is it
23:34
watered down? Is it do you ever feel
23:36
like eh
23:38
everybody raps now like
23:40
well it's still a lot of good artists
23:42
outside like it ain't I ain't going to
23:44
say the culture is finished it's just
23:46
they not you know being heard or
23:48
whatever the case may be but it's still
23:50
a lot of
23:50
you know I mean unknown
23:52
the best MC is Cardi B I mean like the
23:54
top MC the top rapper is Cardi B
23:57
what they that's what they placed
23:59
No I mean she's the high like the the
24:02
highest charting highest selling
24:03
I'm saying yeah that's Yeah.
24:05
Yeah. Yeah. That's what's up. But yeah,
24:07
she from the Bronx, bro.
24:08
But I mean, Cardi doesn't really write
24:10
lyrics, you know what I mean? I'm not
24:11
And again, and and again, look, look,
24:13
I'm not even mad at that right now cuz
24:15
she doesn't lie, you know what I mean?
24:17
There's no mystery around it. We're not
24:19
getting a fake, you know, you know what
24:22
I mean? They're honest about that.
24:23
So, it ain't really her fault. It's the
24:25
people who's making it, you know?
24:27
I'm not even saying it's a bad thing.
24:29
You know what I mean? If but if it's
24:30
looked at in that sense it's like
24:32
because if you placing a you said top
24:34
lyricist
24:35
no no I said I said the top rapper is
24:38
Cardi B right now
24:39
but you basically saying like she don't
24:40
write everything so it's like how you
24:42
get placed as a
24:44
well so for me you know I make the
24:46
differentiation between rapper and MC.
24:48
Okay.
24:49
Um because you anybody can be a rapper
24:52
but ain't like if you don't write but
24:54
you you ain't that like entertainer?
24:56
Yeah entertainer.
24:57
That's like being an entertainer.
24:58
entertainer
24:59
cuz it's still you still got to learn,
25:00
you know what I mean? It ain't easy to
25:01
do that part either. But definitely, you
25:03
know, I mean, but Yeah.
25:04
Yeah. Definitely not. Especially
25:06
Especially in this environment.
25:09
Yeah. In this environment, if you can
25:10
get people's attention for 10 minutes,
25:13
you're doing pretty good.
25:15
Got to be something tragic.
25:16
Nah, no, it don't have to be tragic.
25:18
Look, you saw Cardi. Cardi was in Cardi.
25:21
Cardi had a baby. She had uh she did a a
25:25
a run through the city. She ran from a
25:28
rat.
25:29
You know what I'm saying? She was She
25:30
was selling bootlegs on the street.
25:32
I seen that one.
25:33
She was doing everything.
25:35
She went to Pennsylvania probably way
25:37
back in the boondocks. Um, actually
25:39
Eastern PA specifically cuz Larry
25:42
Holmes, the great boxer is from there.
25:44
And I was like, why is she going there?
25:46
But I bet they studied those numbers and
25:48
know
25:49
she got a fan base.
25:50
Strategic.
25:51
Yeah. Strategic. Strategic. So, we got
25:53
to think strategic.
25:54
Yeah, that's a fact.
25:55
Yeah, man. Um, so what else you uh
25:58
trying to, you know, make pop, man? What
26:00
else you trying?
26:01
I got a uh single coming out on
26:03
Halloween. No time.
26:04
So y'all can be tuned into that.
26:06
You going to use AI?
26:07
Yeah, I might. I might. Now I ain't I
26:09
ain't shoot the video yet. So we got
26:11
options.
26:11
Yeah. Yeah.
26:12
I'm I'mma holl at you off the camera and
26:14
then we'll talk about some, you know, I
26:16
mean, if you got references or
26:17
something, let me know.
26:18
Okay.
26:19
Cool. Cool. For sure.
26:20
Halloween. All right. I appreciate you,
26:22
man. I appreciate.
26:24
Tell the people where they can find you
26:25
and all that.
26:26
David Bars_.
26:28
That's on everything. David Bars. I
26:30
think my ex is David Bars. Real David
26:32
Boss. That's it.
26:33
Yeah.
26:33
I don't be on all the
26:34
We gonna definitely Bill.
26:36
Oh yeah, my Tik Tok. David Balls, too.
26:37
Oh, you dancing? I make tempo music that
26:40
people could dance to.
26:42
So, I got dance videos on Tik Tok. My
26:44
Tik Tok.
26:45
So, wait, hold up. Oh, wait, wait, wait,
26:46
wait. I had a Tik Tok. Let me let me
26:48
see.
26:49
I'm tapped in. You know what I'm saying?
26:50
So that's another thing I've been doing.
26:52
I ain't been rhyming on the 80s and 90
26:54
tempos. I'm doing 120 BPMs, 110.
26:58
So are you are you rhyming on them or
27:00
just instrumentals?
27:01
I'm rhyming on I'm doing putting out
27:02
singles with them.
27:03
But it's specifically for Tik Tok.
27:05
Well, I did like probably I don't know
27:08
more than 10 that went on Tik Tok that
27:09
fitted to dance videos and all type of
27:11
joints that was going crazy on Tik Tok.
27:13
Yeah.
27:14
So how how are the people receiving
27:16
that?
27:16
They love it. Tik Tok be be moving. I
27:19
don't be knowing half of these people,
27:20
but they be showing wild love on Tik
27:22
Tok.
27:23
I got to get back to Tik Tok. My last
27:24
two wasn't no dancing type joint. So,
27:26
okay.
27:27
You know, I dropped 32. That ain't no
27:28
dance record.
27:29
So, the dancing ones go further.
27:31
I mean, you know, it depends what you
27:33
where you put them at. That's what I'm
27:34
saying. Like the Tik Tok thing was like
27:36
new.
27:36
So, I just started, you know, flooding
27:38
them up and all that.
27:38
Tik Tok bars.
27:40
Yeah. You You got to That's what I said.
27:41
Adapted it. You know what I'm saying?
27:42
So,
27:43
I ain't closed off to everything. You
27:45
know what I'm saying? I'm just I'm just
27:47
trying to keep it official. Like you
27:48
said, it's it's too much [ __ ] out
27:50
here. So,
27:50
yeah, definitely.
27:51
Y'all can find me on David Bars_.
27:54
Instagram is like where I do everything
27:55
at. I talk to people. I
27:57
I might start getting on live more, but
27:59
I'll take some tips for you. All right.
28:01
Facts. We gonna
28:02
talk David Bars, y'all. Yes, sir.
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